I just put this in my 2003 GX470. I also added a sub and amp. It sounds GREAT. The factory radio can be a pain to get out of the factory mounting bracket. It’s sounds awesome.
Did you add a after market sub and amp.. because I have the Mark Levinson system in minds.. can you tell me if you bypass oem amp. I have the same vehicle 2003 gx470..
I would leave the levinson setup alone and get the connector you need for an aftermarket CD player. Then run your amp and subs off of a totally different hot wire and ground. Just like a normal system. Good luck fren
Hello Can I bypass broken mark levinson amp, and hard wire the speakers straight from new head unit? I have new wires and new speakers already. Just after installing new head unit, ran into the no climate controls no back up camera as well as no navigation.
This is a great buy the only issue I’ve had is that my car will turn audio off and only the subs play music idk if that’s just a me problem or. What and I can’t figure out how to fix it it’ll happen randomly
Since I can install an aftermarket head unit with this kit, I should be able to install an amp and subwoofer now, correct? Also, is there a was to retain the factory mic with the new head unit?
Correct, you will be able to install an amp and subwoofer very easily with the new aftermarket radio. Unfortunately the factory mic will be lost with the new headunit. However, you may use the mic on the aftermarket radio.
You can get the Tesla’s tule screen for 400-500 dollars. This already cost like 300 a new radio is even more plus installation if you aren’t doing it yourself? Idk up to you
Is there a video on how to install this yourself? I really don’t want to pay $250 after paying $250 for the adapter and $200 for an aftermarket radio. I’m new to this radio install world I just need a step by step guide and how to wire this all up correctly. Thanks 😊
@@mikewaters6339 2009 GX models in the US were all GX470. Please send us a photo of your radio and your location to info@beatsonicusa.com so we can confirm compatibility
@@BeatSonicUS This was recently acquired and I need to make a correction, I just checked the VIN and I do have the 2006 GX 470, not 2009 GX460, Your correct, I'll be purchasing soon, thank you.
I'm a bit confused. Why would replacing that part of it, without the adapter, make you lose control of the climate control? It doesn't look like there is any part of that piece you replaced that is attached to the climate control. I know nothing about stereo replacement. I'm looking for a replacement for my lexus gx470's broken stereo.
Since early 2000 Lexus made things a bit more complicated with their infotainment system where when a component is removed such as a stereo for this case the AC and factory screen stops working. I know, it's frustrating. That is why we came up with a solution so that you won't lose your AC :)
Very cool, thanks for the video. I've got an '09 GX that has bluetooth phone control that works fine - any insight on whether I can continue using the factory bluetooth/phone connection for phone calls? Even if there is a 2nd bluetooth connection for the new head unit that would be fine...
George Patrick Yatour Bluetooth Car Adapter Music CD Changer 6+6PIN CDC Connector for Toyota/Lexus www.amazon.com/dp/B06XHM36FQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JAPrBbP83DTH8
oh yeay! I have an 07 GX470 w/nav and need a new stereo. Currently my nav isnt working because we disconnected the battery before knowing it would disable the nav. The cd player isn't working but I haven't used CDs in years, and no sat radio. I'd like to get sat radio in this vehicle - which single din unit do you suggest?
What dash kit / face plat was used. I bought the radio and kit you used but Best Buy said I have to buy the kit elsewhere as they don’t have it? Thanks!
Factory cassette player will be completely removed and replaced with a new single din headunit. Unfortunately we have not tested to confirm use of factory DVD player.
Hi, I’m looking to buy an 07 GX 470. And it seems to have no Nav. I heard it’s easier to mod those? Do you know if I can still keep a backup cam for those? If not i’ll just get the GX with the Nav and try this. Sorry i’m really noob. Thanks for the help
Do you have any new information on upgrades? I talked with Crutchfield and they suggested Alpine CDE-175BT. I'm looking for top shelf audio. Is there any guidance on how to spec a the head unit? (DINs).
@@BeatSonicUS a single DIN that replaces the radio cassette deck. No interest in replacing flat screen and the rest. The speakers & amplifiers are fine. Something that integrates to the steering wheel would be a bonus. AUX rather than bluetooth for quality purposes. Ideally a top shelf preamp with a low failure rate.
Was it really 280$ for the adapter plus 59$ for the steering wheel controls ? 339$ seems outrageous for that. Then pay best buy to install it after buying the stereo ? A stereo is probably 150$ and I imagine best buy would get at least 75$ ? Thats 565$ roughly ? Am I really off base here ? I guess it's a lot cheaper than your quotes of up to 1500$ but still .... ?
Even the used eBay multi display screen alone costs over $350 for a decent, non scratched up unit with a month warranty ha! I’d rather go this route too but searching other options bc I used to be skilled at this work so I believe in myself
@@BeatSonicUS I have a 2005 GX 470 with Nav but not ML. Crutchfield has the Kenwood KDC-BT572U (newer version of the OP's Kenwood KDC-BT565U since it is no longer available). Will the Kenwood KDC-BT572U work with your MVA-81?
Oh man I could use this device too for my 2005 Land Cruiser Prado (basically the same as GX470) Japan Import. (I live in Malaysia by the way). It comes with a minidisc player instead of a normal tape deck, and the FM freq is only for Japan market. Even the headunit language are all in Japanese so I can't for the life of me do anything with the settings other than climate control. Driving without any music is so boring. D
Did you install this all yourself? The beat-sonic adapter, the axcess steering wheel control adapter and the kenwood radio yourself, or did you say that Best Buy did this installation for you? If so, what was the overall cost of the project?
The kit was installed by Best Buys. For an install like this, expect to pay 1-2 hours of labor charge that may range from $60-$120 an hour by a local installation shop.
Nice! I'm glad to hear that. Do you know the sizes for the speakers that you purchased? All my speakers are blown and I'm currently looking for replacements but I dont know where to start. Any links or info would help me. Thank you!
Hey Michael hows it goin ? So Beat Sonic do you reply to every comment ? Thats cool man. Very professional. But i installed this adapter last year and started misfiring on cylinders 1 3 and 5 any suggestions?
Thank you for this video. When streaming music via bluetooth, what is displayed on the large Lexus screen if you click the audio button? Can you control tracks using the audio buttons on the large screen?
The tracks on the aftermarket radio will only be controlled through steering wheel and aftermarket radio. The factory screen will not be able to control the aftermarket radio.
@@BeatSonicUS is it possible to fit new radio to fit nicley as factory one in the dash? Anyhow i have 2003 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 120 which looks exact the same from inside as this Lexus. But in the Toyota Service Center they told me that i can disconnect OEM radio and put new one and all will work except steering controls and audio button on navigation screen? So this is new moment for me, is it the same thing with entertaiment system in toyota and lexus? Also, if radio fits nicley as original does, is there any plastic side dash covers to cover holes from right and left side of radio (as toyota oem single din slot is a bit wider than standard single din radios..
I'm fairly savvy with car audio installations. I've seen a few other people ask similar questions, but I wanted more clarification. I checked the site and the installation manual and didn't get my questions completely answered. I'd like to install my own head unit, (not go to best buy). First question, is there an included trim piece/adapter for the aftermarket stereo or does it directly fit into the slot for the old audio controls? I need to know if I need to purchase anything other than the audio adapter for the install. Second question, do the default audio controls on the steering wheel still function with the aftermarket unit? If so, are any adapters needed or included with the kit? Thanks
The trim pieces are included with the kit. Yes the steering wheel controls will continue to work as long as you purchase a separate steering wheel control adapter. You can add the steering wheel control on our website when purchasing
We have followed up with the customer and the steering wheel voice control is operable. The menu item on the radio needs to be on a mode where voice control is useful. Such as Apple Carplay or Android Auto.
Just get a $15 Bluetooth to FM adapter and stick it in the cig lighter- done. My GX has the Levinson system and it sucks. Half blown out and just in the way. I need an adapter to bypass it, not interface with it.
Beat-Sonic I want to keep the screen, wheel controls, and unit, but lose the amplified audio system itself. Basically a conversion kit that takes the stock system and adapts it to standard RCA signal level output instead of 17channel Levinson BS.
In order to do that you will need: 1. New Radio 2. New aftermarket amplifier 3. New aftermarket speakers 4. Steering wheel control interace. These four items will give you the new sound system and you can bypass the factory sound system while keeping steering wheel controls. And then you will need 5. Our Adapter to keep the climate controls working.
“It was an easy installation!” *had it installed at Best Buy*
Awesome!
he did say that THEY said it was easy
I was told that I couldn’t replace my radio so this feels amazing
Awesome! Worked well for many customers as well!
I just put this in my 2003 GX470. I also added a sub and amp. It sounds GREAT. The factory radio can be a pain to get out of the factory mounting bracket. It’s sounds awesome.
Did you add a after market sub and amp.. because I have the Mark Levinson system in minds.. can you tell me if you bypass oem amp. I have the same vehicle 2003 gx470..
I would leave the levinson setup alone and get the connector you need for an aftermarket CD player. Then run your amp and subs off of a totally different hot wire and ground. Just like a normal system. Good luck fren
Awesome!
@@joshuahamm7404 Try sound deadening material in the doors. That goes a long way in signal/noise ratios.
Thank you so much. I have been looking for days before coming across this video.
Awesome!
Cheers! I’m sold. Doing same mod to my 2004. Thanks
Awesome!
You sir, are heaven sent. Mahalo!!!
Thank you!
my issue is since im in Texas what to do when that screen goes out? thanks for sharing!
Either replace or fix
I would like to know if you can keep the reverse camera on while driving normally forward?
Yes on other car models but not for this GX
THANK YOU - GREAT SOLUTION!!
Thanks!
Hello Can I bypass broken mark levinson amp, and hard wire the speakers straight from new head unit? I have new wires and new speakers already. Just after installing new head unit, ran into the no climate controls no back up camera as well as no navigation.
Sorry not sure how to repair that
@@BeatSonicUS so your kit will only work with a original or aftermarket amp? I only need 4 door speakers and every head unit has 4 outs for speakers.
They out here listening to Pitbull in 2017 and I am here for it
Sweet
This is a great buy the only issue I’ve had is that my car will turn audio off and only the subs play music idk if that’s just a me problem or. What and I can’t figure out how to fix it it’ll happen randomly
Please email us for tech support at info@beatsonicusa.com
Will this work on a Land Cruiser 100 series?
Unfortunately we have not verified it to Landcruiser 100 Series
Can you use any single din radio receiver or is it only kenwood KDC-BT565U
You can use any single din radio
Since I can install an aftermarket head unit with this kit, I should be able to install an amp and subwoofer now, correct?
Also, is there a was to retain the factory mic with the new head unit?
Correct, you will be able to install an amp and subwoofer very easily with the new aftermarket radio. Unfortunately the factory mic will be lost with the new headunit. However, you may use the mic on the aftermarket radio.
I'm going to get this, because my 2009 has Nav/ML and i thought the only option was a $900 Pheonix tablet style system.
Awesome!
You can get the Tesla’s tule screen for 400-500 dollars. This already cost like 300 a new radio is even more plus installation if you aren’t doing it yourself? Idk up to you
@@diegoflores1119 the screen replacements can be a bit glitchy. Good luck
Is there a video on how to install this yourself? I really don’t want to pay $250 after paying $250 for the adapter and $200 for an aftermarket radio. I’m new to this radio install world I just need a step by step guide and how to wire this all up correctly. Thanks 😊
Unfortunately we don’t have a diy install on this
I saw your video and I was getting ready to order the part did you order the steering wheel control mechanism separately
You may purchase the steering wheel control separately or together on the website
What kind of phone mount is that and how is it holding up?
Sorry we don't have that information unfortunately
Scosche Brand. Ive been using their mounts for 3+ years. Best on the market
I wonder if this will work on a 2009 gx460. Great video, this maybe what I'm looking for.
Yes this is compatible with 09 GX470
@@BeatSonicUS
I have the GX460 not GX470, will it work? I'm just making sure before I order this. Thank you.
@@mikewaters6339 2009 GX models in the US were all GX470. Please send us a photo of your radio and your location to info@beatsonicusa.com so we can confirm compatibility
@@BeatSonicUS
This was recently acquired and I need to make a correction, I just checked the VIN and I do have the 2006 GX 470, not 2009 GX460, Your correct, I'll be purchasing soon, thank you.
I'm a bit confused. Why would replacing that part of it, without the adapter, make you lose control of the climate control? It doesn't look like there is any part of that piece you replaced that is attached to the climate control. I know nothing about stereo replacement. I'm looking for a replacement for my lexus gx470's broken stereo.
Since early 2000 Lexus made things a bit more complicated with their infotainment system where when a component is removed such as a stereo for this case the AC and factory screen stops working. I know, it's frustrating. That is why we came up with a solution so that you won't lose your AC :)
Very cool, thanks for the video. I've got an '09 GX that has bluetooth phone control that works fine - any insight on whether I can continue using the factory bluetooth/phone connection for phone calls? Even if there is a 2nd bluetooth connection for the new head unit that would be fine...
George Patrick Yatour Bluetooth Car Adapter Music CD Changer 6+6PIN CDC Connector for Toyota/Lexus www.amazon.com/dp/B06XHM36FQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_JAPrBbP83DTH8
Please email us at info@beatsonicusa.com and our customer service team can assist you
Just get a grom vline2 since you have the best nav
How well does the head unit fit into dash? Does it snap in? Good fit and finish? Nothing loose? Any Gaps?
The head unit fits well into the dash. It clips in. Good fit and finish. Nothing loose and no gaps
oh yeay! I have an 07 GX470 w/nav and need a new stereo. Currently my nav isnt working because we disconnected the battery before knowing it would disable the nav. The cd player isn't working but I haven't used CDs in years, and no sat radio. I'd like to get sat radio in this vehicle - which single din unit do you suggest?
I like the pioneer radios. Price is reasonable and user friendly
Am I correct in thinking that neither the OEM nor the new head unit's balance and fader controls will work after this install is done?
Balance can be controlled with the new aftermarket radio. Fader can be controlled on the factory sound control using the screen.
What dash kit / face plat was used. I bought the radio and kit you used but Best Buy said I have to buy the kit elsewhere as they don’t have it? Thanks!
The dash kit that is included in this stereo replacement kit was used. Part number MVA-81
Good video, I wish Alpine worked though!
Thanks! Alpine works as well
At 5:24 you hit the audio button but info popped up on the nav screen. I’m confused.
The Audio controls will be made with the new aftermarket radio.
will factory navigation voice directions play through aftermarket radio via usb , am, fm, cd, ipod or all the sources when they are on?
It will play via Aux
So you bought the beat sonic and paid Best Buy to install head unit for you for how much thx. You’re still able to control dvd 📀
Not sure, please contact Best Buy directly
Would this work on my 03 LX470? I’m thinking it should be the same exact components.
Unfortunately this is only compatible with GX 470 models
Do you retain the use of the factory DVD and do you completely remove the factory cassette? Thank you!
Factory cassette player will be completely removed and replaced with a new single din headunit. Unfortunately we have not tested to confirm use of factory DVD player.
Hi, I’m looking to buy an 07 GX 470. And it seems to have no Nav. I heard it’s easier to mod those? Do you know if I can still keep a backup cam for those? If not i’ll just get the GX with the Nav and try this. Sorry i’m really noob. Thanks for the help
It depends on what kind of modification you will be doing. Yes you can keep the backup camera using our kit. My pleasure!
Just wondering if there is any update of the DVD player will still work after installing the radio
Factory DVD player won’t work on the front screen
@@BeatSonicUS thanks for letting me, not huge lost
Did this swap last night. Took a couple hours but we'll worth it! Now, I just need to figure out how to regain my steering wheel controls. Any ideas?
You may retain your steering wheel controls using this adapter: www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00B4PJC9K/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
Would this work on my 100 series 2004 landcruiser? I have factory navigation as well.
This only works with GX
Do you have any new information on upgrades? I talked with Crutchfield and they suggested Alpine CDE-175BT. I'm looking for top shelf audio. Is there any guidance on how to spec a the head unit? (DINs).
What kind of information are you looking for in the stereo upgrades?
@@BeatSonicUS a single DIN that replaces the radio cassette deck. No interest in replacing flat screen and the rest. The speakers & amplifiers are fine. Something that integrates to the steering wheel would be a bonus. AUX rather than bluetooth for quality purposes. Ideally a top shelf preamp with a low failure rate.
Let's try again. It's been five years since this video was done. I'm looking for recommendations on single DIN head units.
Do you still have the 6 cd cartridge? My wife tossed our by accident!
I believe the customer still does
Can you confirm the rear DVD player will work?
According to the customers the rear dvd will continue to work
Can this adapter also work is I want to switch out all speakers and amp?
Yes you can use this kit and bypass the factory amp
Does the backup camera still work when in reverse ?
Yes
Was it really 280$ for the adapter plus 59$ for the steering wheel controls ? 339$ seems outrageous for that. Then pay best buy to install it after buying the stereo ? A stereo is probably 150$ and I imagine best buy would get at least 75$ ? Thats 565$ roughly ? Am I really off base here ? I guess it's a lot cheaper than your quotes of up to 1500$ but still .... ?
Your pricing is correct :)
Even the used eBay multi display screen alone costs over $350 for a decent, non scratched up unit with a month warranty ha! I’d rather go this route too but searching other options bc I used to be skilled at this work so I believe in myself
@@BeatSonicUS I have a 2005 GX 470 with Nav but not ML. Crutchfield has the Kenwood KDC-BT572U (newer version of the OP's Kenwood KDC-BT565U since it is no longer available). Will the Kenwood KDC-BT572U work with your MVA-81?
Beat sonic there is nothing for gx470 2007
Still have this? I'm thinking about getting an 06 to 2011 or so.
Yes this kit is still available. Link in description
@@BeatSonicUS Do you still enjoy owning the vehicle? Also, thanks for responding!
Oh man I could use this device too for my 2005 Land Cruiser Prado (basically the same as GX470) Japan Import. (I live in Malaysia by the way). It comes with a minidisc player instead of a normal tape deck, and the FM freq is only for Japan market. Even the headunit language are all in Japanese so I can't for the life of me do anything with the settings other than climate control. Driving without any music is so boring. D
Please contact enquiries@beatsonic.co.jp and they can assist you!
Any thoughts on if this could work with 2004 lx470 also with Marx Levison?
Unfortunately this only works with GX 470
Is there anything like this for a 2010 GX460?
Unfortunately not from us
i just purchased an 2003 GX470 w/ nav. Is this my only option ?
This is one of your options
Beat-Sonic what other options would there be? With adapter would I be able to install avh-3500nex ?
If you are looking to install an aftermarket radio this is the solution you would want to use :)
What size head unit did you install?
A single din head unit
Did you install this all yourself? The beat-sonic adapter, the axcess steering wheel control adapter and the kenwood radio yourself, or did you say that Best Buy did this installation for you? If so, what was the overall cost of the project?
The kit was installed by Best Buys. For an install like this, expect to pay 1-2 hours of labor charge that may range from $60-$120 an hour by a local installation shop.
You’re telling me that Best Buy will replace your radio???
Yep
Ok, so how much did it cost to install?
Stereo shops will charge 1-2 hours of labor. Can vary from $75-$250 depending on the shop.
Can this be done to a 05 Toyota land cruiser?
Unfortunately this kit is specific to 2003-2009 Lexus GX
Ok, thank you very much for the reply
What speakers did you purchase for your car?
Not sure but it sounds great!
Nice! I'm glad to hear that. Do you know the sizes for the speakers that you purchased? All my speakers are blown and I'm currently looking for replacements but I dont know where to start. Any links or info would help me. Thank you!
@@MrRastafari510 I’m pretty sure it’s just the mark levinson sound system that comes stock with the car. He says it multiple times in the video
@@MrRastafari510 Try Crutchfield they can help you. Their website is very helpful; that’s were I purchased my speakers for my 2008 GX470!
Hey Michael hows it goin ? So Beat Sonic do you reply to every comment ? Thats cool man. Very professional. But i installed this adapter last year and started misfiring on cylinders 1 3 and 5 any suggestions?
Sounds like an engine problem. Please take your vehicle to a local mechanic to get checked up. Could be a number of things
The stupidity of this question is mindbogling
can you put an flip out single din on here?
Yes, you sure can!
sony single din double scrren fits good as sony screen goes below unit
OEM Rear view camera still works?
Yes oem rear view camera still works like usual
@@BeatSonicUS now just looking for freaking 8 ohm speakers. Front and rear
Awesome. It will sound amazing!
Anyone done a pop down monitor with this thing yet so you can get CarPlay?
We had some customers install a single din with a monitor with great success
Hi! Can you install mine please?
Any local stereo shop can
Thank you for this video. When streaming music via bluetooth, what is displayed on the large Lexus screen if you click the audio button? Can you control tracks using the audio buttons on the large screen?
The tracks on the aftermarket radio will only be controlled through steering wheel and aftermarket radio. The factory screen will not be able to control the aftermarket radio.
Will this work with my existing Bluetooth? I have a 07 and the factory Bluetooth still works. Will I retain this function with the new head unit?
You will have to use the new bluetooth on the new stero
Why does it stick out? Is it not a flush fit? Great to see everything works..might be doing this as well-just curious about the fit.
The way it sticks out is the design of the stereo as it makes it easier for the user to access the controls such as the volume knob.
@@BeatSonicUS is it possible to fit new radio to fit nicley as factory one in the dash? Anyhow i have 2003 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 120 which looks exact the same from inside as this Lexus. But in the Toyota Service Center they told me that i can disconnect OEM radio and put new one and all will work except steering controls and audio button on navigation screen? So this is new moment for me, is it the same thing with entertaiment system in toyota and lexus? Also, if radio fits nicley as original does, is there any plastic side dash covers to cover holes from right and left side of radio (as toyota oem single din slot is a bit wider than standard single din radios..
I'm fairly savvy with car audio installations. I've seen a few other people ask similar questions, but I wanted more clarification. I checked the site and the installation manual and didn't get my questions completely answered. I'd like to install my own head unit, (not go to best buy). First question, is there an included trim piece/adapter for the aftermarket stereo or does it directly fit into the slot for the old audio controls? I need to know if I need to purchase anything other than the audio adapter for the install. Second question, do the default audio controls on the steering wheel still function with the aftermarket unit? If so, are any adapters needed or included with the kit? Thanks
The trim pieces are included with the kit. Yes the steering wheel controls will continue to work as long as you purchase a separate steering wheel control adapter. You can add the steering wheel control on our website when purchasing
You should have went with the tesla screen. This does not look clean!
Different solutions for different needs.
you will find as many bad reviews as good at that thing and customer service will be horrible, I gave up on that.
Have you fixed the problem with the steering wheel voice control?
We have followed up with the customer and the steering wheel voice control is operable. The menu item on the radio needs to be on a mode where voice control is useful. Such as Apple Carplay or Android Auto.
Do you retain use of the stock 6 CD loader?
Stock 6 CD changer is not retained.
Just get a $15 Bluetooth to FM adapter and stick it in the cig lighter- done.
My GX has the Levinson system and it sucks. Half blown out and just in the way. I need an adapter to bypass it, not interface with it.
Easy, get a new amplifier and hard wire to new speakers with a new radio. If you want to keep the factory AC working you will still need this adapter.
Beat-Sonic I want to keep the screen, wheel controls, and unit, but lose the amplified audio system itself. Basically a conversion kit that takes the stock system and adapts it to standard RCA signal level output instead of 17channel Levinson BS.
In order to do that you will need: 1. New Radio 2. New aftermarket amplifier 3. New aftermarket speakers 4. Steering wheel control interace. These four items will give you the new sound system and you can bypass the factory sound system while keeping steering wheel controls. And then you will need 5. Our Adapter to keep the climate controls working.
300$ for beat sonic really isn't worth it when you could just bypass the amp
You’ll lose the screen functions and climate control if you just bypass the amp
bruh you found your self beat sonic
Fosho
where did you order this ?
Will it work with any single din headunit, so does the head unit need certain inputs/outputs
Correct, this will work with any single din headunit.
Out of stock. :(
Check out GXOR on Facebook ... they are doing a bulk buy from the manufacturer for a discount.
Thanks for the info!
Dude it's much easier than that it's 2020....ijs
It sure is 2020!
Anybody in phoenix can do it in my 2005 gx470?
Please email us and we can direct you at info@beatsonicusa.com
Can I install a single din unit with flip out screen? I have a 2006 lexus gx470.
Yes you can
@@BeatSonicUS Any suggestions? Thanks for the reply.
@@jd9045 aftermarket radio manufacturers are constantly coming out new with models. We personally like pioneer or alpine units
Can you still use the back entertainment?
We need to confirm please email us at info@beatsonicusa.com
Does the backup camera work?
Kevin Clark yes the backup camera continues to operate normally