Thank you! Was locking for this exact comparison For me, it will be the A2. I don't run a lot of cargo and just want a safe all-rounder. Also, I can use the bombs every time the bunker turrets think I'm not friendly again (they will learn about my peaceful ways by force!^^). Not gone use them on JT because I'm not a dick.
I was Kindly gifted a few million to buy one the other day, I love the C2 and I've upgraded its quantum and engines, now i can earn loads of money by cargo hauling
M2 for me! I like the stock military components the C2 feels slow in QT by comparison. Obviously you can upgrade QT on C2 but I also like the 3rd crew member spot.
Your videos are very well thought out and jam packed with useful easy to understand information, great job! I'd like to see you do a breakdown on the different racing ships since there are 5 new dedicated race tracks and game play for them coming in 3.18.
Thank you for the kind words, that is exactly the kind of video I want to make, waste as little time as possible! That's a great suggestion, I've got a couple friends that are really into racing as well, I'll start consulting with them!
The M2 for me. But only from a RP standpoint. I want it for military transport and even though the C2 can technically do the same, it feels “improper“ to use a civilian ship as military transport. Again, just an RP thing :D
I mean, the M2 has the jumpseats, the extra turret, and will have more armor when it comes in. It’s definitely meant to be in more combat situations than the C2, so there are/will be practical reasons.
I have both the C2 and M2. The C2 is currently my daily driver. The M2, when armor is a thing, I will use it to haul higher value cargo. The armor, extra ship guns, and space for combat troops/armory on board will make it a tougher nut to crack for pirates.
@@Space-Tech I'm just getting my feet wet started playing 3 weeks ago I am a Jack of all trades master of none type player so the multi roll ships intrest me most. I have the titan and ptv right now as my starting pledges was looking at the msr, connie Phoenix, as my next multi rolls then the a2.
Great informative video. Just one thing I'd reccommend: Whenever there's a break in the recording, take another drink of water. Then, adjusting your microphone so that it's away at an angle from your mouth will ensure that the sounds of your lips smacking or other saliva-related sounds won't be as loud.
I've spent literally years grooming my A2 ccu chain... The end result was a $350 A2 Hercules. Why did I do it? Well, outside of REALLY wanting the ship, my theory crafting got the better of me with the A2 and it dawned on me how powerful this ship will be. Heavy armor, double s3 shields and a plethora of turrets. This ship is one of the only combat ships that can go to war at the beginning of your game session, run supplies and relief afterwards, handle some cargo for quick cash and close with hauling some vehicles across the system. What I'm trying to say is, it's VERY flexible. It's not locked to combat. And 200ish scu of space allows it to be a brinks truck hauling high value cargo. That's why I did it.. $700 "now $750" was pretty high but I made it work at a much lower price. I love the A2 and look forward to bombing missions and support roles with this ship.
So basically, we deserve to reward ourselves with all three, and keep the caterpillar pirate edition for flex, logistical adaptation (I do weird stuff, I'm a strange example of something very exact) and fanboy purposes (I'm a drake boy)
this is a tough one for me, I want to get a cargo hauler (as I dont have one atm, unless you count the carrak), but the bombs on the A2 are just so enticing.
@@Space-Tech Arrows might be the way then. Also IDK if you fly a redeemer at all, but it seems very fragile for some reason, like the fins on the back tail always blow off, even though the shield is up
Hull HP is the total HP of the entire hull, you can think of body HP as the health of the main center mass of the ship, so excluding wing tips, and the nose :)
It depends what you're up against... with all turrets active, the A2 is pretty good up against other big ships because they are equally slow to get all big guns on target. But those big turrets, while powerful are slow moving and struggle to track a bunch on light fighters swarming in close and focusing on the A2's unprotected upper hull.
That will actually be late next month! Invictus fleet week is definitely going to have the A2, and may also have the M2 :) as always you can just grab the CCU to the A2 if you want to start a savings chain :)
@@Space-Tech that will be awesome, I’ve been looking. It’s definitely an ideal ship for landing in a safe location and then rolling out in a vehicle to do a mission
Hull instaled bombs/torpedoes/rocket always pilot weapons main, in the future can handle the co op pilot too, but pilot always (sory my english not the best)
So which is your go-to Hercules?
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Thank you! Was locking for this exact comparison
For me, it will be the A2. I don't run a lot of cargo and just want a safe all-rounder. Also, I can use the bombs every time the bunker turrets think I'm not friendly again (they will learn about my peaceful ways by force!^^). Not gone use them on JT because I'm not a dick.
Hahaha appreciate it! You're a stand up citizen for not using it at JT o7
Had the pleasure of being crew on a couple of these, always a treat.
Absolutely, especially the A2
I was Kindly gifted a few million to buy one the other day, I love the C2 and I've upgraded its quantum and engines, now i can earn loads of money by cargo hauling
Awesome! It's definitely the best cargo hauler. Just watch out for pirates next patch!
I have a C2, great ship!
A citizen of great taste, I see!
M2 for me! I like the stock military components the C2 feels slow in QT by comparison. Obviously you can upgrade QT on C2 but I also like the 3rd crew member spot.
TS-2 is my very first upgrade for any ship that size! Totally understand wanting it fast whole stock though :)
Keep in mind, this is an older video and something significant changed in the M2 making it less exciting.
That's interesting, what seems to have changed? @scottbytes8181
TS-2 upgrade nearly cuts in half the travel time.
THUMBNAIL got me !!
As a M2 daily driver, the back/red pinstripe caught my 👁 👁
Never seen that option before - guessing it’s hidden behind concierge
The red and black colorway is so far exclusively for the A2, it's definitely my favorite look of the series :D
Thank you for this awesome and very detailed comparison Subbed :)
i used to have a m2, great ship!!!
Your videos are very well thought out and jam packed with useful easy to understand information, great job! I'd like to see you do a breakdown on the different racing ships since there are 5 new dedicated race tracks and game play for them coming in 3.18.
Thank you for the kind words, that is exactly the kind of video I want to make, waste as little time as possible! That's a great suggestion, I've got a couple friends that are really into racing as well, I'll start consulting with them!
@@Space-Tech I'm interested in it for sure, the new tracks and time trial missions look really neat.
M2 for the eventual armor.
The M2 for me. But only from a RP standpoint. I want it for military transport and even though the C2 can technically do the same, it feels “improper“ to use a civilian ship as military transport. Again, just an RP thing :D
I mean, the M2 has the jumpseats, the extra turret, and will have more armor when it comes in. It’s definitely meant to be in more combat situations than the C2, so there are/will be practical reasons.
@@LMMSDeadDuck Good point. I forgot about the jump seats and additional turret.
Fun abstract knowledge. The real world version of the MOAB, while also called Mother Of All Bombs is officially Mass Ordinance Arial Burst.
I had no idea! Love me a fun fact haha
I'm part of odyssey interstellar. Nice video man! I got both a C2 and A2, both with LTI ;)
Hey!! So awesome to meet someone from Odyssey interstellar! Glad you enjoyed the video, and looks like you got the 2 best ones!
@@Space-Tech Thanks man! Good to meet you here too, good sir!
I have both the C2 and M2. The C2 is currently my daily driver. The M2, when armor is a thing, I will use it to haul higher value cargo. The armor, extra ship guns, and space for combat troops/armory on board will make it a tougher nut to crack for pirates.
100% these ships really fly so much better than you'd think!
I really want the a2 as it's a Jack of all trades master of none ship that's a total beast
It's a hammerhead with bombs! Definitely a cool ship
@@Space-Tech also looking at the liberator
I'd hope to see the liberator before Pyro, otherwise we'll rarely see fighters there I'd imagine
@@Space-Tech I'm just getting my feet wet started playing 3 weeks ago I am a Jack of all trades master of none type player so the multi roll ships intrest me most. I have the titan and ptv right now as my starting pledges was looking at the msr, connie Phoenix, as my next multi rolls then the a2.
Welcome to the verse! The next steps up for Jack of all trades ships are the Cutty black, then a connie. Probably the taurus
Great informative video. Just one thing I'd reccommend:
Whenever there's a break in the recording, take another drink of water. Then, adjusting your microphone so that it's away at an angle from your mouth will ensure that the sounds of your lips smacking or other saliva-related sounds won't be as loud.
Thank you, I'm trying that for my latest videos and appreciate the help! :)
I've spent literally years grooming my A2 ccu chain... The end result was a $350 A2 Hercules. Why did I do it? Well, outside of REALLY wanting the ship, my theory crafting got the better of me with the A2 and it dawned on me how powerful this ship will be.
Heavy armor, double s3 shields and a plethora of turrets. This ship is one of the only combat ships that can go to war at the beginning of your game session, run supplies and relief afterwards, handle some cargo for quick cash and close with hauling some vehicles across the system. What I'm trying to say is, it's VERY flexible. It's not locked to combat. And 200ish scu of space allows it to be a brinks truck hauling high value cargo. That's why I did it.. $700 "now $750" was pretty high but I made it work at a much lower price. I love the A2 and look forward to bombing missions and support roles with this ship.
Very cool ship for sure and you got an awesome chain to it! Are you looking forward to the A1 as well?
@@Space-Tech you bet your space tech @$$ I am...😌
Got the 3pack but upgraded the C-1 as it's the least favorable of the trio for me.
At the C1s role and size, I'm a Cutlass Black kind of guy myself!
Great vid bro 👌
You had me at "friendly" 🍻
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I see all those drop seats and start to think free to play accounts that cant fly ships but are able to man ground vechiles may not be the worst idea
So basically, we deserve to reward ourselves with all three, and keep the caterpillar pirate edition for flex, logistical adaptation (I do weird stuff, I'm a strange example of something very exact) and fanboy purposes (I'm a drake boy)
this is a tough one for me, I want to get a cargo hauler (as I dont have one atm, unless you count the carrak), but the bombs on the A2 are just so enticing.
I'd ask you how often you find yourself needing bombs of that size? Also consider that we should get more Cargo gameplay in 3.23 :)
The M2 might have more value once Pyro comes out, being able to carry alot of cargo, and having an extra turret might help a bit
That's true! Especially with the increased size of Pyro, it may not be feasible to put that person in a fighter instead :)
@@Space-Tech or you can put the fighters into the cargo hold 🤯. I bet you can fit two arrows or so in there, maybe a gladius
Unfortunately I've tried and the struts for the door prevent you from at least getting the gladius in :(
@@Space-Tech Arrows might be the way then. Also IDK if you fly a redeemer at all, but it seems very fragile for some reason, like the fins on the back tail always blow off, even though the shield is up
Sounds like one of those pesky shield holes
As a dedicated A2 pilot, best feeling when your friends need a bomb on target for support on ground missions, heheheh Colossus go BANG! 🤣
It's such an awesome feeling to see it from the ground!
I grabbed the C2 as I'm a space trucker.
Love to see it!
@@Space-Tech *puts on ball cap and cranks up convoy* Yee haw space cowboy.
C2 Squad 👊
M2 for me maybe a2 someday we will see
A2 all the way.
Gotta love some explosions :D
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whats the difference between hull hp and body hp?
Hull HP is the total HP of the entire hull, you can think of body HP as the health of the main center mass of the ship, so excluding wing tips, and the nose :)
I wonder how a fully manned A2 stacks up against other ships
It's actually very formidable, if you can point the belly of the ship at them, that is!
@@Space-Tech I wonder if it stands a chance against a redeemer or a hammer head... probably not LOL. Unless they were parked on the ground
@@kazer4040 I think it stands a decent change against a Deemer, if the pilot is skilled enough, but a HH would probably destroy this thing haha
It depends what you're up against... with all turrets active, the A2 is pretty good up against other big ships because they are equally slow to get all big guns on target. But those big turrets, while powerful are slow moving and struggle to track a bunch on light fighters swarming in close and focusing on the A2's unprotected upper hull.
@@Nemoticon So maybe having a hurricane help support would make a deadly convoy! Would love to try it in game but I have like 100k lol
id buy the A2 but i have yet to be around when its up for sale
That will actually be late next month! Invictus fleet week is definitely going to have the A2, and may also have the M2 :) as always you can just grab the CCU to the A2 if you want to start a savings chain :)
@@Space-Tech that will be awesome, I’ve been looking. It’s definitely an ideal ship for landing in a safe location and then rolling out in a vehicle to do a mission
Those shields are definitely no joke!
I got my A2 CCU from Jumptown sale. Invictus it will sell again
I am confused, if the C2 and M2 both have the same carrying capacity for vehicles, and are the same size, how does the C2 fit so much more cargo?
I think it's because of the height of the cargo area
Does the Pilot get to drop the bombs?
Yes! The bombs are pilot controlled on the A2 for now, things may change in the future of course
Hull instaled bombs/torpedoes/rocket always pilot weapons main, in the future can handle the co op pilot too, but pilot always (sory my english not the best)
Where in the game can you buy an A2? I can’t seem to find one to buy with aUEC.
Crusader showroom on Orison should have it :)
@@Space-Tech thank you!
I just buy the A2, I have only 2 S4 gimbal as pilot, not 4 weapons... :/
bombs on jumptown HMmmmmmmmmmmm A2 LOL
It's definitely the best part of owning an A2 :D
None BMM all the way 😉
Shhhh if we don't talk about it, it'll get here faster!
5 months ago
Just pledged the A2 upgrade from my C2. I run a ballista and nova tank inside, long haul i swap nova for c8r Pisces inside the A2.
Nice! Did you use the warbond upgrade?