Very impressive stuff guys ! And I think it's awesome you reached out to make up the custom pipework. Hope Jay takes you up on that as I think it would look stunning !
Now 4 minutes into this video 🎥. But because @petert3355 - has peaked my interest 🤔. I have to turn to @8:25 in the video. I just love ❤️ reading the comments. As I watch the video 📹..
5:22 is the moment you want to repeat over and over. That sound was amazing. Proper impact, right there. The moment Jay realizes what he just did is just as good, of course.
@@auturgicflosculator2183 That's what I saw in my head, too. Imagine a whole group of Jays doing that chant and using the copper plate for the whack. Phil is dying in the background.
@@TalesOfWar , the prototype cooler that Linus had was $8000 , but that's including research and development for that single block. In that video Linus estimated that a block like that would cost $800 in materials.
Of anyone that Billet Labs could have collaborated with, I have to say that I was hoping they'd have been able to do something with you in particular, Jay ❤
Totally agree. Jay actually appreciates the nicheness of the product and can provide an unbiased review without trashing the company. I totally stopped watching LTT after that debacle, especially after they doubled down and tried to justify their behavior.
Watercooling Enthusiast and likely won't fuck it up for either shits and giggles or because couldn't be bothered to attach it to the right damn GPU... and won't auction it off. Yeah, Jay's a great choice.
Either steampunk or nautical (think Jules Verne, 20k Leagues Nautilus with copper and dark oiled woods and green/blue/teal lighting) would work great for an awesome block like that.
You should absolutely do the steampunk build with analog pressure, temperature, and flow gauges. Sure, it would be overkill, and pressure isn't exactly a needed measurement, but that could be made into one of the most beautiful builds in existence if it was done right - you're one of the few I can think of that would.
Love to see a build with this, and how over a month of use it holds up… I think a steampunk theme idea would be insane with this open or closed… but to really make it pop I think a lot of bespoke extras like valves etc visual or functional would be lit
Too bad the steam punk movement was too big for what little vintage doodads were available, and people bought it all up in a frenzy! Now if you do find something that's not already in some steam punk art it may cost a crap load more than a sane person can justify.
I love how Jay works with smaller companies as well as large ones, and always seems to try and give help with both the exposure, and "this might be an issue" or a "this is great about X " with it.
The Asrock taichi line would be a good choice for the steampunk look. It has the gear theme already. Just have to paint the silver bits copper/gold to fit the color scheme. Also, The case should be an open frame design made from copper pipes too.
@@thatfordboy4297 my x570 has bronze gear accents but silver plastic housings on the chipset and rear I/o. Those housings are the silver bits I was talking about that would need to get painted.
@@axiom_creative yeah, have the same board. X570 Taichi. If AM4 it would make total sense to go with the B550 taichi for it cuts out the silver. Really like the look of the B550 Taichi.
I love the idea of this block. This is 100% a bespoke item, designed for a bespoke customer, and will sell maybe 100 or so of these over the lifetime of the product. I LOVE it, I can't WAIT to see your build Jay.. I hope you take it to the moon with steampunk or sci-fi, all the way man.. make it happen!!
Impressive on the thermal pad. I use to assist in sourcing/buying of those, and they can be (depending on the type of thermal pad) can be $30~$75 PER SHEET that size. That was our "BULK" (thousands of sheets per order) price. Copper isn't cheap...currently non-processed price is $3.75/kg TRADING price. Want Bar/Sheet/Plate? Jack that price. 1/8"x4"x24" plate is going for nearly $100. Now add in the machining costs? Yep...sky rocketing cost. Honestly? $1000 for that setup is NOT bad. It is actually under the generally accepted prototyping costs we used in industry, and this is prototype style build. Pretty cool!
Very, very nice to see Billet Labs again! 👍 As always, Jay is fair in assessing and commenting on the product. Looking forward to that steampunk build! Hopefully very soon!
I do hope 2024 is the year of builds. You do thoroughly enjoy building computers and have no problem sharing our same pains that come with it. You not only offer advice on gear but you offer solutions to problems as they present themselves. Your channel was the first I ever experienced back when I made my first build. You alone convinced me that I could actually build my own computer….and I did. That being said…I also hold you responsible for my ongoing PC building addiction. You make your builds fun while we ride your wake of knowledge. Other channels really have a hard time getting me excited to build as they seem much more serious and critical. Another UA-camr I find equally fun is « Dawid Does Tech Stuff ». While I couldnˋt hope to afford the components you use I absolutely can live vicariously though you! You guys take me for the best ride and I thank you! Dream BIG for me/us!
The kit looks pretty damn nice. you could make a very nice build with it, Price isn't bad really. Full black components, copper tubes, clear coated copper cables.
When soldering, please do not be cheap on the grease, it helps the solder flow all the way and makes life easy. as you are an experienced tube bender itll be awesome!.
Please, most definitely build a PC with this absolute unit of a copper block! You could try to figure out how to make it the smallest you could make it - in the spirit of SFF.
It's also that there's no point in polishing that plate until final install unless the polish and then wrap it, which is an extra layer of complexity. Something they may offer once they've figured out the formula. Maybe something like three options. Raw, tumbled, polished (based on other products of copper or aluminium or brass i've seen in the past). Honestly, i'd personally go for a tumbled finished. Relatively easy to clean. Super shine doesn't last unless you lacquer it. Tho raw is also a cool idea because you can let it oxidize. There's some pretty wicked pure copper PC cases out there with that effect.
I'm so keen to see a steampunk open case build for this block! Regardless of *that* company and the drama, this product is super interesting and very cool even if it is super niche, and I absolutely love that you're doing something with them. Take care of yourself Jay, and know that we're going to support you even if you reduce your output pace and that as your health is more important than seeing a video every day or two mate!
ooh glad to see Billet Labs product get the respect it deserves, glad they reached out to you after the LTT farce, can't wait to see the full install :D
@@thatfordboy4297 I'm gonna assume they're talking about the LTT review of the Billit GPU monoblock. They installed it on a GPU it wasn't intended for use on, and then talked trash on the performance. Then the monoblock was "misplaced" and accidentally auctioned off at a convention. It was a whole thing and LTT got called out over it pretty heavily, so it's fairly common knowledge for LTT or Gamers Nexus viewers at this point. Jay has stayed understandably quiet about any of the drama.
@@techiefIve oh I know exactly what they were talking about. I don't think most people do though. If I recall outside of saying about the same thing Jay did. LTT really didn't have anything bad to say. I am no LTT fan boy, I simply don't hate them either. Anyone who is actually interested in this product, got the info they needed from LTTs video. Wrong GPU or not. Though, in my opinion it is interesting that now 3090ti/4090 support is confirmed. Makes me wonder what billetlabs actually said, before ltts video, about gpu support.
You mean the company who claimed that prototype was essential to their production but actually originally said LTT could keep it. But then asked for it back after they got butt hurt? Goddamn GN fanbois everywhere
I love how he’s skipping over him using it on the wrong GPU and the emails of them asking for it back and being promised it was being shipped back before being given away, just to make his ‘point’.
@ignignxkt that's a fact. He didn't even use it on the correct gpu. The incompetence level was way high. That's why Steve at Gamers Nexus call out Linus on quite a few things that ltt was doing wrong.
I had a BFG hydro copper GTX 280 back in the day and that was a huge piece of solid copper! This product brings back so many good memories of my early water-cooling days! Definitely didn't pay close to half that price for GPU and copper water block but that was 2008 prices for you. Dang inflation 😭
The especially savage price is that the relative price of copper from 2007 until now is relatively unchanged. We actually saw a glut in the price of copper from 2010 to 2020, where after it crashed and recovered in 2008, it went on a downtrend for a few years, went up again due to the pandemic, and has been on the downtrend a bit again since 2022, with the price hovering around $3.75 a pound right now. It just shows how little of the cost of a block like this is the actual literal piece of copper. It really makes you wonder why prices on waterblocks are as high as they are, even after accounting for the cost of CnC mills and skiving machines (to make the block fins). It makes sense here due to all the custom work and the low volume, but how many blocks is EK selling? Corsair is moving blocks for half the price that perform almost as good. It just doesn't make sense to me but then I haven't looked at their insider data
@@TheOriginalFaxon I brought a piece of copper to work for my coworker to machine for my water cooling project. He usually works on steel. He made quite a mess of it. Aperently copper is annoying to machine for various reasons like work hardening. I remember the first time I drilled a hole in it, I didn't understand how the work hardening.. worked, and completely melted a brand new drill bit in half an inch.
@@compwiz00 lol that's wild, i would never have assumed that would be an issue to such a degree. Copper can be harder than steel or almost as soft as lead depending how it's annealed, and when you alloy it to make brass it'll go through armor rated for steel penetrators sometimes (if it doesn't explode into fragments first). I have just never heard of work hardening being an issue when machining it, but then I'm not a machinist.
I still kinda agree with Linus take on the product, but I think this should be evaluated in the roam of jewelry, so it's hard to take say if something is worth it or not since it's basically a product you buy with a base in taste and looks...
Great representation of the information and the company, Jay! Upbeat and positive, with some useful suggestions to correct possible flaws. Seeing this in a Steampunk style of build would be impressive, as you and everyone else will get some experience with options for working with copper. The orientation and compacting of the CPU/GPU combination will create a couple of interesting mounting and support solutions for sure, but the options for reservoir and cooling can take this build to a whole new level. Looking forward to what you end up doing with this.
This would go beautifully in a fractal ridge lots of room on top to put rads and i think the side panel wouldn't even need a cutout. Edit after watching the full video. I double down on fractal ridge for the steampunky look 😁😆
love your channel, thank you for giving this little company the respect and true build it deserved! the other review i saw broke my heart as my older autistic brother is a 3d modeler and is just starting out!
I really wish Billet Labs gets more attention and sales. This is actually interesting compared to everything else out there. i'd love to see and steam-punk build with this setup!
Billet Labs deserve all the love and support from our small group of pc lovers and enthusiasts.Period. I am very happy they are in business after that unethical trick LT pulled on them and i very happy with Jay who made this video. Hoping for a kickass steampunk build in 2024 with this baby , Jay , wish you all the best for the health issues you are dealing with. Get well soon man. Happy new year, cheers.
Dang, this was way better and more informative than other UA-cam channels that have reviewed a product like this. It was objectively reviewed and wasn't auctioned off without permission too. Nice!
That looks sexy, looks great for certain themes. Like the Steampunk theme you mentioned. I've personally been thinking about making a custom wooden case (itx) and this would also fit my idea as I am searching for copper accents, buttons, etc...
Oh Jay please do a build with that block! The most important thing about soldering copper tube is to clean it well before you tin them. Then put the elbows on and heat the the elbows to join the pieces together.
i too would love to see a steampunk/copper build. I personally like when you make the longer build series and we can be there almost every step of the way.
After how LTT screwed up with their prototype, they should've have gone to you for reviewing this product! Also I personally would've liked to see a build with this, especially with a high-pressure cooling solution. LTT has their thing (I forgot what's it called) but they butchered the whole review so that's not gonna happen.
The backplate is so unnecessarily thick. They should mill grooves into it, for better passive heat transfer, as there is more than enough material to spare by the looks of it
This cooler is very suitable for high-end motherboard characteristics where users can freely use RAM and VRMs with high forms. It's great to see you always doing research on new devices. I last did it in 2013 when intel was still gen 4 haswell and I still use it until now and stopped because of financial limitations. But with your presence on youtube, my knowledge about computers is growing. I pray that soon I can get a computer with a newer generation. Thank you, stay healthy and God bless you, your family and your crew. -Wien-
Hey Jay, been sweating pipes for a VERY long time, the prep before the lead and flame even touches the pipes is the biggest thing, the sweat itself is piss easy. I have never once in my life as a plumber had to open a wall back up for a leaking joint that I sweat, not once. Just do the prep correctly and it'll be a breeze. Measure your pipes to cut joint neck to joint neck, do not over apply the flux, and once the joint is saturated stop adding lead to keep from getting runs. Use the grey scotchbrite pads that you use for body working, you can use wet and dry sand paper but you'll have to tear it into or cut strips constantly, that pad will outlast that sand paper, scuff the pipe head AND the inside surface of the joint, use water while scuffing, dry off the surfaces, with a clean (not oily) cloth, they do not need to be bone dry just not dripping wet, do not touch the joints after this with your naked fingers, (skin oils etc. will contaminate the surfaces). Also, watch out for the pipe heads after cutting them, those are razor sharp, remember to de-burr the ends after the cut, you do not want slivers of copper floating around the loop causing blockages or getting caught in the pumps impellor. Apply a bit if flux to both surfaces, and then bring in your heat, once you start seeing a green flame, remove the heat, introduce the lead solder from the opposite side and watch the solder wick into the joint, once it does not wick anymore stop, otherwise you'll get blobs forming on the underside of the joint, after that, clean off the flux residue. You can also if you want to use silver solder, same technique. Just a tip, at some point in time, you are going to have to solder in close proximity to other things that don't like heat. Get some off cut pieces of stainless sheet to use as heat shields, stainless is a poor heat conductor and the solder does not stick to it, do not use galvanised sheet for this purpose. Good luck.
Hey Jay, I always enjoy your content and passion for the builds. Your videos were why I started to build my own PCs and have built several for others. I would definitely enjoy watching you do a themed build.
Would definitely like to see a full on copper pipe build, sweating copper is truly a dying art, especially a polished one. id even like to sweat the pipes ! I hope you do, just like with any other soldering project, clean joints and flux is your friend.
Put me down as pro-steampunk build. Saw a build where the pipes used for the watercooling were also the frame for the open air case. Be cool to see your take on that concept
About 10 years ago I remember a full tower case that was made for passive cooling. It was made from aluminum plates and was about 100lbs. It was mounted on industrial casters because of how heavy it was.
This takes me back to the early days of water-cooling later 90's early 2000's when everything was just pure copper with An acrylic or copper top. Coupled with some tubing from home Depot, an aquarium pump, a rad and some sunon fans you were in business! Of course to show it off, don't forget to Dremel out a window in your case and add a cold cathode light. Good times when everything was about function and not so much about the looks. Love it!
Force Patina the GPU backplate- salt and vinegar, clear coat. A steampunk open air case would be cool. Make the reservoir look like vacuum tubes with under glow like an old amplifier.
Way back in the day on a show called American Chopper, they did a chopper (as in Motorcycle) theme build for the Statue of Liberty. To prevent the green oxidation they used automotive paint clear coat straight on the copper. Might be a solution for this application long term.
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Awesome video Jay! If/when you do a build, we'd be happy to make up some custom copper pipework for you to complete the steampunk look. Much love ✌
This would be amazing. Hope you saw the video from gamers nexus analysing the temperatures!
Man that’s awesome!
Watched the GAMER'S NEXUS review...
Very impressive stuff guys ! And I think it's awesome you reached out to make up the custom pipework. Hope Jay takes you up on that as I think it would look stunning !
@@notrixamoris3318 So did I before I came over here. They had some positive comments and really want to see what Jay comes up with.
We definitely want to see a full build with this!
In that case that Jay demo'd last week. The full metal box one.
The one on the bench behind Jay @8:25
@17:30 AWWW!!!!!! Dang it.......
Now 4 minutes into this video 🎥. But because @petert3355 - has peaked my interest 🤔. I have to turn to @8:25 in the video. I just love ❤️ reading the comments. As I watch the video 📹..
Dam you are right on the money 💰. This has to go. Inside that case on his work bench..
Agreed
The build he described with copper tubes would be end game unreal. Let's hope it happens!
5:22 is the moment you want to repeat over and over.
That sound was amazing. Proper impact, right there. The moment Jay realizes what he just did is just as good, of course.
That sound better pop up in future videos.
@@cmdrpickles I want to sample it and use it in a song.
Pies lesu Domine, *whack* dona eis requiem, *whack*
@@auturgicflosculator2183 That's what I saw in my head, too. Imagine a whole group of Jays doing that chant and using the copper plate for the whack. Phil is dying in the background.
@@creativeheadroom 😂
I'd love to see a copper build, even if it'll be a 20 episode series 😃
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I can't imagine how expensive that would be if it was actual copper and not just copper coloured matching bits.
@@TalesOfWar , the prototype cooler that Linus had was $8000 , but that's including research and development for that single block.
In that video Linus estimated that a block like that would cost $800 in materials.
First episode would be mining and smelting the copper ore.
Should be done by 2036
Of anyone that Billet Labs could have collaborated with, I have to say that I was hoping they'd have been able to do something with you in particular, Jay ❤
that's what i was thinking when the "other" video came out. this guy really has the appreciation of niche and interesting waterblocks
Totally agree. Jay actually appreciates the nicheness of the product and can provide an unbiased review without trashing the company. I totally stopped watching LTT after that debacle, especially after they doubled down and tried to justify their behavior.
The Billet Labs redemption with J2C!💪🙌
Watercooling Enthusiast and likely won't fuck it up for either shits and giggles or because couldn't be bothered to attach it to the right damn GPU... and won't auction it off.
Yeah, Jay's a great choice.
I agree. Anyway, Jay offered his help/collab intent to Billet Labs back when the whole LTT fiasco went down.
Either steampunk or nautical (think Jules Verne, 20k Leagues Nautilus with copper and dark oiled woods and green/blue/teal lighting) would work great for an awesome block like that.
You should absolutely do the steampunk build with analog pressure, temperature, and flow gauges. Sure, it would be overkill, and pressure isn't exactly a needed measurement, but that could be made into one of the most beautiful builds in existence if it was done right - you're one of the few I can think of that would.
Just need 8 month to built it
Love to see a build with this, and how over a month of use it holds up… I think a steampunk theme idea would be insane with this open or closed… but to really make it pop I think a lot of bespoke extras like valves etc visual or functional would be lit
Oooh nice ❤❤❤
Too bad the steam punk movement was too big for what little vintage doodads were available, and people bought it all up in a frenzy! Now if you do find something that's not already in some steam punk art it may cost a crap load more than a sane person can justify.
I love how Jay works with smaller companies as well as large ones, and always seems to try and give help with both the exposure, and "this might be an issue" or a "this is great about X " with it.
The Asrock taichi line would be a good choice for the steampunk look. It has the gear theme already. Just have to paint the silver bits copper/gold to fit the color scheme. Also, The case should be an open frame design made from copper pipes too.
Not sure on the new models but the x570 taichi has bronze accent colors. While the B550 taichi took this a bit further and went full bronze on black.
@@thatfordboy4297 my x570 has bronze gear accents but silver plastic housings on the chipset and rear I/o. Those housings are the silver bits I was talking about that would need to get painted.
@@axiom_creative yeah, have the same board. X570 Taichi. If AM4 it would make total sense to go with the B550 taichi for it cuts out the silver. Really like the look of the B550 Taichi.
I don’t think they make any taichi boards in mini ITX or micro atx sadly 😢
@@silentcoyotecreations They don't.
You would be reliant on a neutral background. Like all jet black. To maintain such an aesthetic.
I bet we'll *NEVER* see Jay touch this block again on a steam.
Jay says he wants to build with it, that will *NEVER* happen.
I love the idea of this block. This is 100% a bespoke item, designed for a bespoke customer, and will sell maybe 100 or so of these over the lifetime of the product. I LOVE it, I can't WAIT to see your build Jay.. I hope you take it to the moon with steampunk or sci-fi, all the way man.. make it happen!!
Jay smacking himself in the head with the plate is the most Jay thing I've seen 😂😂😂
Impressive on the thermal pad. I use to assist in sourcing/buying of those, and they can be (depending on the type of thermal pad) can be $30~$75 PER SHEET that size. That was our "BULK" (thousands of sheets per order) price.
Copper isn't cheap...currently non-processed price is $3.75/kg TRADING price. Want Bar/Sheet/Plate? Jack that price. 1/8"x4"x24" plate is going for nearly $100. Now add in the machining costs? Yep...sky rocketing cost.
Honestly? $1000 for that setup is NOT bad. It is actually under the generally accepted prototyping costs we used in industry, and this is prototype style build. Pretty cool!
Love the idea of a SteamPunk build using the Billet Labs MonoBlock, and all copper pipes!
Very, very nice to see Billet Labs again! 👍 As always, Jay is fair in assessing and commenting on the product. Looking forward to that steampunk build! Hopefully very soon!
Great that you get a chance to review their kit.
They deserve it!
And yes, do steampunk. See how crazy you can get it within the mm2 of an SFF...
I do hope 2024 is the year of builds. You do thoroughly enjoy building computers and have no problem sharing our same pains that come with it. You not only offer advice on gear but you offer solutions to problems as they present themselves. Your channel was the first I ever experienced back when I made my first build. You alone convinced me that I could actually build my own computer….and I did. That being said…I also hold you responsible for my ongoing PC building addiction. You make your builds fun while we ride your wake of knowledge. Other channels really have a hard time getting me excited to build as they seem much more serious and critical. Another UA-camr I find equally fun is « Dawid Does Tech Stuff ». While I couldnˋt hope to afford the components you use I absolutely can live vicariously though you! You guys take me for the best ride and I thank you! Dream BIG for me/us!
i love how you guys clown in the middle of episodes. good chemistry. thanks for uploading despite everything going on. love u guys
The kit looks pretty damn nice. you could make a very nice build with it, Price isn't bad really. Full black components, copper tubes, clear coated copper cables.
When soldering, please do not be cheap on the grease, it helps the solder flow all the way and makes life easy. as you are an experienced tube bender itll be awesome!.
Remember to return it 😂
Please, most definitely build a PC with this absolute unit of a copper block!
You could try to figure out how to make it the smallest you could make it - in the spirit of SFF.
Definitely do a steampunk build with this! It will look absolutely fantastic!
Definitely want "the year of builds 2024". My favorite videos here are builds.
That has a very “Summer of George” feel to it !!
It's also that there's no point in polishing that plate until final install unless the polish and then wrap it, which is an extra layer of complexity. Something they may offer once they've figured out the formula. Maybe something like three options. Raw, tumbled, polished (based on other products of copper or aluminium or brass i've seen in the past). Honestly, i'd personally go for a tumbled finished. Relatively easy to clean. Super shine doesn't last unless you lacquer it. Tho raw is also a cool idea because you can let it oxidize. There's some pretty wicked pure copper PC cases out there with that effect.
Good to see Billet Labs got some attention from an honest reviewer instead of some annoying skeevy shill!
I'm waiting for Jay to show and do a build with the stealth water block where the tubes are hidden on the backside. Pretty wild and clean looking.
I'm so keen to see a steampunk open case build for this block! Regardless of *that* company and the drama, this product is super interesting and very cool even if it is super niche, and I absolutely love that you're doing something with them. Take care of yourself Jay, and know that we're going to support you even if you reduce your output pace and that as your health is more important than seeing a video every day or two mate!
Would love to see this block paired with that awesome looking NANOQ case. It would probably make it the heaviest SFF build ever!
ooh glad to see Billet Labs product get the respect it deserves, glad they reached out to you after the LTT farce, can't wait to see the full install :D
That cooler would look amazing in your EVGA carbon fibre open chassis
Also nice to hear billet labs not being shit on
Where had you heard them "shit on".
@@thatfordboy4297 linus
@@thatfordboy4297 I'm gonna assume they're talking about the LTT review of the Billit GPU monoblock. They installed it on a GPU it wasn't intended for use on, and then talked trash on the performance. Then the monoblock was "misplaced" and accidentally auctioned off at a convention. It was a whole thing and LTT got called out over it pretty heavily, so it's fairly common knowledge for LTT or Gamers Nexus viewers at this point. Jay has stayed understandably quiet about any of the drama.
@@techiefIve oh I know exactly what they were talking about. I don't think most people do though. If I recall outside of saying about the same thing Jay did. LTT really didn't have anything bad to say.
I am no LTT fan boy, I simply don't hate them either. Anyone who is actually interested in this product, got the info they needed from LTTs video. Wrong GPU or not. Though, in my opinion it is interesting that now 3090ti/4090 support is confirmed. Makes me wonder what billetlabs actually said, before ltts video, about gpu support.
Thanks Jay for committing to a build with their product Linus did them dirty.
A drama involving a certain UA-camr that auctioned off property that wasn't rightfully theirs?
You mean the company who claimed that prototype was essential to their production but actually originally said LTT could keep it. But then asked for it back after they got butt hurt? Goddamn GN fanbois everywhere
@alexdavis9324 you have been on the internet too long time for a break. Sounds like you got butthurt over a comment hahaha😊
@@alexdavis9324you sound like a bit of a fan boy crybaby yourself there bud. Lolll
I love how he’s skipping over him using it on the wrong GPU and the emails of them asking for it back and being promised it was being shipped back before being given away, just to make his ‘point’.
@ignignxkt that's a fact. He didn't even use it on the correct gpu. The incompetence level was way high. That's why Steve at Gamers Nexus call out Linus on quite a few things that ltt was doing wrong.
Jay really is the Orange County choppers of pc builders
I had a BFG hydro copper GTX 280 back in the day and that was a huge piece of solid copper! This product brings back so many good memories of my early water-cooling days! Definitely didn't pay close to half that price for GPU and copper water block but that was 2008 prices for you. Dang inflation 😭
The especially savage price is that the relative price of copper from 2007 until now is relatively unchanged. We actually saw a glut in the price of copper from 2010 to 2020, where after it crashed and recovered in 2008, it went on a downtrend for a few years, went up again due to the pandemic, and has been on the downtrend a bit again since 2022, with the price hovering around $3.75 a pound right now. It just shows how little of the cost of a block like this is the actual literal piece of copper. It really makes you wonder why prices on waterblocks are as high as they are, even after accounting for the cost of CnC mills and skiving machines (to make the block fins). It makes sense here due to all the custom work and the low volume, but how many blocks is EK selling? Corsair is moving blocks for half the price that perform almost as good. It just doesn't make sense to me but then I haven't looked at their insider data
@@TheOriginalFaxon
I brought a piece of copper to work for my coworker to machine for my water cooling project. He usually works on steel. He made quite a mess of it. Aperently copper is annoying to machine for various reasons like work hardening.
I remember the first time I drilled a hole in it, I didn't understand how the work hardening.. worked, and completely melted a brand new drill bit in half an inch.
@@compwiz00 lol that's wild, i would never have assumed that would be an issue to such a degree. Copper can be harder than steel or almost as soft as lead depending how it's annealed, and when you alloy it to make brass it'll go through armor rated for steel penetrators sometimes (if it doesn't explode into fragments first). I have just never heard of work hardening being an issue when machining it, but then I'm not a machinist.
I still kinda agree with Linus take on the product, but I think this should be evaluated in the roam of jewelry, so it's hard to take say if something is worth it or not since it's basically a product you buy with a base in taste and looks...
Great representation of the information and the company, Jay! Upbeat and positive, with some useful suggestions to correct possible flaws. Seeing this in a Steampunk style of build would be impressive, as you and everyone else will get some experience with options for working with copper. The orientation and compacting of the CPU/GPU combination will create a couple of interesting mounting and support solutions for sure, but the options for reservoir and cooling can take this build to a whole new level. Looking forward to what you end up doing with this.
Certainly looks dreamy, but above my price ceiling.
This would go beautifully in a fractal ridge lots of room on top to put rads and i think the side panel wouldn't even need a cutout.
Edit after watching the full video.
I double down on fractal ridge for the steampunky look 😁😆
Steampunk build with that would be a cool concept. Can't wait to see how you will do it.
now auction it
love your channel, thank you for giving this little company the respect and true build it deserved! the other review i saw broke my heart as my older autistic brother is a 3d modeler and is just starting out!
I assume Jay won't sell it in an auction
LMAAAOO auction!!*** not SELL!!! nononono badword nooo 🤣
This is perfect for a steampunk build!
I really wish Billet Labs gets more attention and sales. This is actually interesting compared to everything else out there. i'd love to see and steam-punk build with this setup!
Billet Labs deserve all the love and support from our small group of pc lovers and enthusiasts.Period. I am very happy they are in business after that unethical trick LT pulled on them and i very happy with Jay who made this video.
Hoping for a kickass steampunk build in 2024 with this baby ,
Jay , wish you all the best for the health issues you are dealing with. Get well soon man.
Happy new year, cheers.
This would be awesome to see in a full copper build. (copper pipes and copper fittings) Absolutely beautiful piece.
That’s not a water cooler, that a block of copper that happens to be usable as a water cooler.
JTC and GN giving the review Billet Labs deserve. Thank you.
Dang, this was way better and more informative than other UA-cam channels that have reviewed a product like this. It was objectively reviewed and wasn't auctioned off without permission too. Nice!
Copper is a valuable mineral. If an owner upgrades they could sell it for its weight value alone.. It will hold value.
That looks sexy, looks great for certain themes. Like the Steampunk theme you mentioned. I've personally been thinking about making a custom wooden case (itx) and this would also fit my idea as I am searching for copper accents, buttons, etc...
Oh Jay please do a build with that block! The most important thing about soldering copper tube is to clean it well before you tin them. Then put the elbows on and heat the the elbows to join the pieces together.
I want to see the build. Good bad whatever. Nice seeing a fledgling company. I am looking at doing a uber small build and think this would be awesome.
i too would love to see a steampunk/copper build. I personally like when you make the longer build series and we can be there almost every step of the way.
That block is sick. Would love to see it in an actual build.
absolutely wanna see the Steampunk SFF monster!
It was too big to be called a Water Block. Massive , thick, heavy, and far too industrial.
Indeed, it was a heap of raw copper.
Love to see Jay's view on this as he is more understanding and open with this is a niche item etc.
After how LTT screwed up with their prototype, they should've have gone to you for reviewing this product!
Also I personally would've liked to see a build with this, especially with a high-pressure cooling solution. LTT has their thing (I forgot what's it called) but they butchered the whole review so that's not gonna happen.
The backplate is so unnecessarily thick. They should mill grooves into it, for better passive heat transfer, as there is more than enough material to spare by the looks of it
This reminds me of the block by that company that Linus tried to destroy
Billet Labs... its the same company.
This cooler is very suitable for high-end motherboard characteristics where users can freely use RAM and VRMs with high forms.
It's great to see you always doing research on new devices. I last did it in 2013 when intel was still gen 4 haswell and I still use it until now and stopped because of financial limitations. But with your presence on youtube, my knowledge about computers is growing. I pray that soon I can get a computer with a newer generation. Thank you, stay healthy and God bless you, your family and your crew.
-Wien-
Is this the block that LTT bashed then auctioned off without approval from Billet?
I don’t think it’s the same one but similar? Same company atleast
lol first thing i thought of when i saw it was "This would look great in a system with copper piping" lol
I hope they never deal with Linus again.
Jay smacks himself
What came to mind;
“Do as I say, not as I do” - Jay
Why would people buy this?
Hey Jay, been sweating pipes for a VERY long time, the prep before the lead and flame even touches the pipes is the biggest thing, the sweat itself is piss easy.
I have never once in my life as a plumber had to open a wall back up for a leaking joint that I sweat, not once.
Just do the prep correctly and it'll be a breeze.
Measure your pipes to cut joint neck to joint neck, do not over apply the flux, and once the joint is saturated stop adding lead to keep from getting runs. Use the grey scotchbrite pads that you use for body working, you can use wet and dry sand paper but you'll have to tear it into or cut strips constantly, that pad will outlast that sand paper, scuff the pipe head AND the inside surface of the joint, use water while scuffing, dry off the surfaces, with a clean (not oily) cloth, they do not need to be bone dry just not dripping wet, do not touch the joints after this with your naked fingers, (skin oils etc. will contaminate the surfaces).
Also, watch out for the pipe heads after cutting them, those are razor sharp, remember to de-burr the ends after the cut, you do not want slivers of copper floating around the loop causing blockages or getting caught in the pumps impellor.
Apply a bit if flux to both surfaces, and then bring in your heat, once you start seeing a green flame, remove the heat, introduce the lead solder from the opposite side and watch the solder wick into the joint, once it does not wick anymore stop, otherwise you'll get blobs forming on the underside of the joint, after that, clean off the flux residue.
You can also if you want to use silver solder, same technique.
Just a tip, at some point in time, you are going to have to solder in close proximity to other things that don't like heat. Get some off cut pieces of stainless sheet to use as heat shields, stainless is a poor heat conductor and the solder does not stick to it, do not use galvanised sheet for this purpose.
Good luck.
Steam Punk build would be awesome, That block would look amazing with full copper pipes
Hey Jay, I always enjoy your content and passion for the builds. Your videos were why I started to build my own PCs and have built several for others. I would definitely enjoy watching you do a themed build.
Can't wait to see the steampunk build :)
Open air case made of copper pipe BUT the pipes are the water cooling.
Yes I want to see that build. I think it could be very different and interestingly separated from existing offerings. Do it! Have a good one mate.
Jay or Steve (tech jesus) are the only one I would send to test my stuff if I would be in this industry
Steve gone to God
18:14 steampunk theme pc build... lets goooooo!!!!
Yes STEAMPUNK build!!!!! and Billet Labs deserves some love ... this looks amazing
Would definitely like to see a full on copper pipe build, sweating copper is truly a dying art, especially a polished one. id even like to sweat the pipes ! I hope you do, just like with any other soldering project, clean joints and flux is your friend.
I love the ongoing, not really gag, but the explosion every time ifixit is mentioned.
I've been dreaming of doing a glass and copper steam punk laboratory theme build for a while saw this and now I freaking have to do one.
shouldve been jay from the getgo, the actual og watercooling champ on youtube.
you should auction this off for s&g's to show how pro bros you are
Put me down as pro-steampunk build. Saw a build where the pipes used for the watercooling were also the frame for the open air case. Be cool to see your take on that concept
I love stuff like this. So many times i wish i had access to a cnc shop.
yes. an open steampunk build would be awesome
About 10 years ago I remember a full tower case that was made for passive cooling. It was made from aluminum plates and was about 100lbs. It was mounted on industrial casters because of how heavy it was.
This takes me back to the early days of water-cooling later 90's early 2000's when everything was just pure copper with An acrylic or copper top. Coupled with some tubing from home Depot, an aquarium pump, a rad and some sunon fans you were in business! Of course to show it off, don't forget to Dremel out a window in your case and add a cold cathode light.
Good times when everything was about function and not so much about the looks.
Love it!
Some time back I purchased their threaded sweat on sittings and they’re great. 👍🏻
Glad Billet is getting the proper attention they deserve
This is a very different sort of thing and I love it. If the code of the hacker is beautiful, so too is the engineering and workmanship.
That would be perfect for a chilled water loop using a glycol chiller.
i'm super curious to see how it goes in a build and would love to see what sff cases it goes well with
Definatly want to see a full build with this wow.
+1 for Steampunk Build
im already in love with this, whoooaah that deserves a custom case built for that monoblock.
Force Patina the GPU backplate- salt and vinegar, clear coat. A steampunk open air case would be cool. Make the reservoir look like vacuum tubes with under glow like an old amplifier.
Yes! Do that! This thing is so pretty, it Def needs a build.
Way back in the day on a show called American Chopper, they did a chopper (as in Motorcycle) theme build for the Statue of Liberty. To prevent the green oxidation they used automotive paint clear coat straight on the copper. Might be a solution for this application long term.
Glad to see this block being correctly used. Would love to see a build