Drinker's Chasers - Rotten Tomatoes Busted! Fake Reviews And Bribery

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
  • You don't need us to tell you there's been something fishy about review aggregator websites for a long time, but now we have the proof that companies are literally buying positive reviews to help boost their movie's rating.
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  • @Paetaor
    @Paetaor 10 місяців тому +2599

    The Dave Chapelle ranking of 0% professional and 99% audience was the final straw.

    • @FLMKane
      @FLMKane 10 місяців тому +286

      Don't forget "what is a woman"

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 10 місяців тому +297

      @@FLMKane "Sound of Freedom" and the dreaded "Cuties" as well

    • @MnemonicHack
      @MnemonicHack 10 місяців тому +38

      SW: A New Hope (Edit yes I got the name wrong, I get it, thank you, I was talking about the first movie in the new trilogy, I just got off work and was mindlessly tired, cut me some slack) was the movie where I decided Ud never trust the critics of the site, and would only occasionally even check it for anything. Sometimes I don't even agree with the audience; I thought Light-year was a decent movie and don't see the hate for it.

    • @_toph_
      @_toph_ 10 місяців тому

      and the fauci doc being the polar opposite. almost 100% critic, almost 0% audience. they don't even try to hide the sham.

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 10 місяців тому +73

      ​@@MnemonicHack The problem with Lightyear is that it's a bland, mediocre movie who costed way too much for what it was. The most 5/10 animated movie I've seen outside of some kiddie, direct to DVD/streaming movies, but this one was on theaters were it really didn't belong. Can't even say the animation was that good, yes the level of detail in the texturas is neat, but outside of that, it has nothing going for it. It's not a bad BAD movie, mind you, and if you liked it then more power to you, but coming from motherflipping Pixar? Unacceptable, specially if, again, we consider how much it costed to make

  • @SuperRambo111
    @SuperRambo111 10 місяців тому +1745

    So you're telling me Hollywood lies, cheats and is just awful in general? The shock. 😂

    • @HappyDude1
      @HappyDude1 10 місяців тому +23

      Yes the horror ..... 😅
      First disney now this
      And more will follow....
      Maybe Trump was right
      Everything is fake news 😆

    • @gaelofariandel6747
      @gaelofariandel6747 10 місяців тому +11

      In other news: "Water Is Wet!"

    • @libertyprime2013
      @libertyprime2013 10 місяців тому +18

      Hollywood would do that? Just lie to people on the internet?

    • @georgeorwell8501
      @georgeorwell8501 10 місяців тому +11

      My fragile little mind can not handle such revelations

    • @mikemontgomery2654
      @mikemontgomery2654 10 місяців тому +3

      I could feel your shock.

  • @maddlarkin
    @maddlarkin 10 місяців тому +575

    This whole thing reminds me of a quote from one of my favourite books, "His loyalty could not be bought at any price, but it could be rented suprisingly cheaply"

    • @lanelane800
      @lanelane800 10 місяців тому +5

      What book??

    • @ryckarduhryckarduh180
      @ryckarduhryckarduh180 10 місяців тому +67

      My favorite quote about loyalty is from Dwight, something like "I value loyalty more than anything, so if another company values my loyalty more I have no problem working for them"

    • @maddlarkin
      @maddlarkin 10 місяців тому +37

      ​@lanelane800 The Traitors Hand by Sandy Mitchell, 3rd book in the Ciaphas Cain series its the preface quote from chapter nine. (Very much recommend the series if flashman in space sounds like your thing, they get a little repetitious in later books and a working knowledge of 40k helps but should be accessible enough if you don't)

    • @michaelmcclintick9541
      @michaelmcclintick9541 10 місяців тому

      What book was that from?

    • @squishyhunter1744
      @squishyhunter1744 10 місяців тому +11

      Love Ciaphas Cain. PancreasNoWork summed him up perfectly: "The emperor's silliest clown fighting his funniest battles."

  • @doghouse6413
    @doghouse6413 10 місяців тому +150

    I used to go solely off of audience scores, but when they came out with “verified” audience, I knew the whole gig was up

    • @davidmann2524
      @davidmann2524 10 місяців тому +13

      The gig was up long before then. Lots of garbage out there with a billion bots voting for it. That’s why they did the verified audience thing.

    • @busybillyb33
      @busybillyb33 10 місяців тому +17

      Word of mouth has mostly replaced all these garbage review sites for me.

    • @kraven94365
      @kraven94365 10 місяців тому

      ​@@busybillyb33yup, a timeless way to get some reliable feedback. I ask people I know.

    • @PChazman1
      @PChazman1 10 місяців тому

      "Verified" reviews mean nothing. Di$ney marketing will buy tickets, then turn around and put BS good "verified" reviews. That is why there were sold-out theaters that were practically empty during the Captian Marvel release.

    • @ThirtytwoJ
      @ThirtytwoJ 9 місяців тому

      Jig

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 10 місяців тому +958

    Rotten Tomatoes has fake reviews?
    Imagine my shock.

    • @doberski6855
      @doberski6855 10 місяців тому +18

      The sarcasm is strong with this one! 😂

    • @ninjaartist1235
      @ninjaartist1235 10 місяців тому +5

      I read this in Paul Watson’s voice

    • @adamsinger123
      @adamsinger123 10 місяців тому +15

      “I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling in this establishment!”
      “Your winnings, sir….”
      💰 “ahh yes, ahh, thank you…”

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 10 місяців тому +1

      There there
      Have a seat
      Deep breaths

    • @maciejstandup
      @maciejstandup 10 місяців тому +1

      Mild shock

  • @planetbob6703
    @planetbob6703 10 місяців тому +784

    I thought that was already well known for many years...
    A couple clowns called me a conspiracy theorist for pointing out that The Last Jedi always stayed at the same score for weeks. It would have logically gone up and down at least a little bit if the actual score wasn’t already below what they're showing and that's just the set minimum...

    • @matchesmalone2625
      @matchesmalone2625 10 місяців тому +26

      Well known. Never confirmed yet.

    • @jimmyb79
      @jimmyb79 10 місяців тому +93

      Obi Wan jumped from 53% to 61% reviewer score overnight mid-season. This wasn’t immediately after an episode. It already had 100,000’s of reviews so it would have taken 1000’s of only positive reviews in the space of a day. When I checked the latest reviews they were mostly negative. They definitely did something in the background to ensure the 60%+ fresh rating.

    • @cccycling5835
      @cccycling5835 10 місяців тому

      It’s not a conspiracy “theory” if it’s true. The moon landing was a “conspiracy theory”. Jeffrey Epstein hosting Bill Clinton many many times on his pedo island is not a “theory”.

    • @filmandfirearms
      @filmandfirearms 10 місяців тому +17

      We've always suspected, but now it's actually being confirmed

    • @user-hf4dg2qh8e
      @user-hf4dg2qh8e 10 місяців тому +7

      what do you mean, last jedi staying at the same score makes perfect sense. why would more people want to review it.

  • @HamiltonLLB
    @HamiltonLLB 10 місяців тому +293

    Rotten tomato legitimacy, and integrity, summed up with one show.
    “Rings of Power.”
    🍅 84%
    🍿 34%

    • @_Uh_Oh_
      @_Uh_Oh_ 10 місяців тому

      They never let it go below 33% or whatever too. And the negatives kept piling in, then mass moderation. Amazons own ratings was even more blatant with the moderated ratings and people being emailed to say there review was not wanted

    • @onewayturtles
      @onewayturtles 10 місяців тому +2

      No way 1/3 of viewers actually liked that dreck.

    • @sigmacademy
      @sigmacademy 10 місяців тому +11

      You're forgetting that most negative reviews get dumped ONLY if it is a studio movie. If it is an independent movie, I'm pretty sure there is ZERO "defense" for a privately made indie movie.

    • @christopherpulliam8873
      @christopherpulliam8873 9 місяців тому +4

      Yep, it speaks volumes in a few words

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia 9 місяців тому +5

      Gotta admire the audience scores from time to time. They're usually more honest than the critics themselves.

  • @jamesmason721
    @jamesmason721 10 місяців тому +94

    One of the most obvious ones to me was Captain Marvel. When I saw all the positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, I knew something was up.

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 10 місяців тому +1177

    Saying Rotten Tomatoes provides balanced and accurate reviews is akin to saying Jimmy Fallon fosters a positive working environment.

    • @Malum09
      @Malum09 10 місяців тому +8

      You read that news too!

    • @Dedbeatz.
      @Dedbeatz. 10 місяців тому +6

      What happened with Fallon?

    • @aaronaguilar4004
      @aaronaguilar4004 10 місяців тому +11

      ​@@Dedbeatz.Fallon is a fallacio-giver...

    • @sardonicspartan9343
      @sardonicspartan9343 10 місяців тому +7

      He serves his purpose and its time to replace him.

    • @kobewan9028
      @kobewan9028 10 місяців тому +15

      I love jimmy fallon what are u talking abt? My favorite kind of show is one where the host interviews guests and then talks about how great he is cause his name is jimmy fallon

  • @sithazzazzin7329
    @sithazzazzin7329 10 місяців тому +170

    The way I used rotten tomatoes is to look at lowest "critic" scores and watch those movies and avoid those highly scored. Works every time.

    • @ekscalybur
      @ekscalybur 10 місяців тому +14

      So Rotten Tomatoes gets your eyeballs, frequently.
      Which is exactly what they want.

    • @armi999
      @armi999 10 місяців тому +8

      There's a few good movies where critics agreed with audiences. I usually trust the unverified users score that they hide away.

    • @MZ99698
      @MZ99698 7 місяців тому

      You just have had a great time watching GI Joe, Transformers 6 and The Eternals then 🙄

  • @blueblazer9991
    @blueblazer9991 10 місяців тому +175

    it's funny how Netflix One Piece's lowest critic reviews all have lines about complaining that the show tries too much to please fans

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 10 місяців тому +56

      To be fair, quite a lot of critics are snobs and consider themselves to be unique and not like the filthy fans. So I wouldn’t be surprised if that type of critic would (a) consider winning over the fans a bad thing and (b) wouldn’t have enough creativity to phrase it differently than all the other by the numbers snobs.

    • @armi999
      @armi999 10 місяців тому +38

      Basically showing that they fail to understand the purpose of a film or show.

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p 10 місяців тому +18

      I mean, Ahsoka tries too. But it does so by breaking all logic to insert cameos in every episode.

    • @TheresaMayPM
      @TheresaMayPM 10 місяців тому +29

      These critics reviewing content intended for normal people is akin to having Muslims review gay dating websites.

    • @theinsurance2450
      @theinsurance2450 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@user-xx6vy9ri8pyet the critics praise that show for doing that. They are so bias

  • @dougware
    @dougware 10 місяців тому +53

    IMDB reviews for Dial of Destiny were full of 8 or 9 star reviews and when you read the review it was "Nowhere near as good as the first three" or "I went with low expectations and they were met"

  • @JimBob-vb8oz
    @JimBob-vb8oz 10 місяців тому +437

    If you’re a bottom dwelling reviewer, $50 is $50

    • @krissteel4074
      @krissteel4074 10 місяців тому +1

      They are indeed a benthic creature that has probably been familiar with the taste of penis on a paid, case by case basis

    • @dean_l33
      @dean_l33 10 місяців тому

      Not even enough for a handjob in this economy

    • @kraven94365
      @kraven94365 10 місяців тому +39

      Ive seen sex workers charge more 😂

    • @amadeusagripino6862
      @amadeusagripino6862 10 місяців тому +28

      ​@@kraven94365 sex workers have more dignity than these "people"

    • @Hanoua2
      @Hanoua2 10 місяців тому

      ​@@amadeusagripino6862XD

  • @thatguyfromcetialphaV
    @thatguyfromcetialphaV 10 місяців тому +146

    When the film studios have to bribe reviewers for a good copy, you know they are making shit.

    • @ClevelandSteamer0
      @ClevelandSteamer0 10 місяців тому +12

      And they know it.

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 9 місяців тому +2

      When they're not making up fake reviewers fron fake sources...

    • @nzeusman8215
      @nzeusman8215 9 місяців тому

      Standard practice on any field really.

  • @ricardomilos10
    @ricardomilos10 10 місяців тому +877

    We live in the age that every conspiracy theory ends up being true LMAO

    • @jeanbethencourt1506
      @jeanbethencourt1506 10 місяців тому +22

      "Conspiracy" "Theory".

    • @jeanbethencourt1506
      @jeanbethencourt1506 10 місяців тому +73

      @@TheWraith7 the term can also be used to hand wave almost any point by poisoning the well.

    • @scottymacdewder5229
      @scottymacdewder5229 10 місяців тому

      burden of proof lies with who is pushing the narrative, not on who calls the narrative out on their BS... in the 21st century, if you are not a "conspiracy theorist" you aren't paying attention. If Questioning the word of known liars makes me crazy, I dont want to be sane.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 10 місяців тому +53

      ​@@TheWraith7lol. Keep slamming back that main stream propaganda and get your booster. 😂

    • @frankjoyce76
      @frankjoyce76 10 місяців тому +39

      @@TheWraith7did you get your booster this year? Don't talk to us until you get another booster.

  • @zetastreaker47
    @zetastreaker47 10 місяців тому +62

    We should’ve known they were paid off when they gave TLJ a 90%.

  • @sparkleypegs8350
    @sparkleypegs8350 10 місяців тому +200

    I have not read a main stream critics review (unironically) for at least 15 years. There is no point when the reviewers are not being honest.

    • @mikemontgomery2654
      @mikemontgomery2654 10 місяців тому +7

      Even before that, with the likes of Siskel and Ebert, I stopped listening to them when they graded every film on whether or not it was “award worthy”. They would always pump the tires of awful movies and just drag on movies with things like childish comedy in them, the movies that weren’t meant to be taken too seriously.

    • @arturzinurov4781
      @arturzinurov4781 10 місяців тому +2

      Jeremy Jahns is pretty reliable still. I think he was one of the few critics who gave a positive score for joker if memory serves me right

    • @goddepersonno3782
      @goddepersonno3782 10 місяців тому

      it's remarkably handy for knowing the official narrative
      not that there is much of a narrative to movies, that's moreso with politics

    • @mikemontgomery2654
      @mikemontgomery2654 10 місяців тому

      @@goddepersonno3782 I think the two go hand in hand. In either field, the narrative gets pushed.

    • @TheSpoovy
      @TheSpoovy 10 місяців тому

      How does one read a review unironically? Or ironically for that matter?

  • @perandersson3977
    @perandersson3977 10 місяців тому +404

    You were called a conspiracy theorist if you told people that rotten tomatoes "manipulated" their score. Now there is proof.

    • @VG-fk6nk
      @VG-fk6nk 10 місяців тому +1

      The unfortunate trend. Get called racist? It means you're right about a subject. Sexist? Right. Bigot? Right. Conspiracy theorist? Yep, you guessed it, right.

    • @kaiiheenjik1668
      @kaiiheenjik1668 10 місяців тому +14

      A conspiracy theory being true takes about a couple months to a year from now.

    • @rookievideos8865
      @rookievideos8865 10 місяців тому +3

      Are you saying the theory of gravity must be bogus because it's a theory?
      I'm being facetious, but look at the words. Conspiracy. Theory. Now consider the following:
      1. Do conspiracies exist, at least in potentia?
      2. If so, what would you call a body of repeatedly proven hypotheses regarding a conspiracy?

    • @amadeusagripino6862
      @amadeusagripino6862 10 місяців тому

      Doesn't matter if there's proof, some "people" will never acknowledge because they're too demoralized, as Yuri Bezmenov called.

    • @Xbalanque84
      @Xbalanque84 10 місяців тому +14

      Knowing the type of NPCs we're dealing with, a significant number will still deny it, if only to spite you personally.

  • @dun0790
    @dun0790 10 місяців тому +115

    Couldn't this sort of thing be seen as misleading investors?

    • @niallrussell7184
      @niallrussell7184 10 місяців тому +10

      all the PR is to get the tickets sold in first couple of weeks.. and they've made their $.. dust will settle with genuine reviews after.

    • @fidel-3470
      @fidel-3470 10 місяців тому +9

      I think so, and if you were an investor in one of the studios involved in this, you could start organizing a class action lawsuit. But the whole process of determining liability will take a long time, a lot of people will claim ignorance, and the studios have very powerful lawyers. The most juicy target here would be the big studios, and they're also the hardest target. Like, good luck going after Disney, they'll fight this for 10+ years, but are OBVIOUSLY deceiving the public's reviews and likely the box office sales, metrics that investors use to determine production quality and therefore the company's financial health.

  • @TheLoos3Goos33
    @TheLoos3Goos33 10 місяців тому +92

    I always knew this was happening but seriously? For only $50 these critics were willing to do this? Guess that tells you how much their opinions are worth. Nothing. Zero self respect.

    • @theeffete3396
      @theeffete3396 10 місяців тому +3

      I would think that makes their opinion worth $50 🤔🤔🤔

    • @realSpook
      @realSpook 9 місяців тому

      I have never in my life looked to the ratings of critics, always audience opinions.
      I'm fine with them getting that $50 since their opinions mean nothing to me

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 9 місяців тому

      Isn't that the average cost of going to the movies in a "brick&mortar" these days?

    • @TheLoos3Goos33
      @TheLoos3Goos33 5 місяців тому +1

      @@theeffete3396 Their integrity is worth $50. It's not an opinion if it can be bought. It's just marketing.

  • @Jasper_Silva
    @Jasper_Silva 10 місяців тому +157

    Rotten Tomatoes is the worst method to aggregate reviews, but mainstream critics and Hollywood seem to like it cause it rewards mediocrity. Most mainstream movies or shows won't get under 60% in it, maintaining an illusion of quality.

    • @Blu3-Fir3
      @Blu3-Fir3 10 місяців тому +9

      Correct. The normies also usually trust the reviews on there too because most of them don't have the time to look into how movies are actually scored behind the scenes. All they see is "certified Fresh" and assume something must be good.

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 10 місяців тому +2

      Yup. I only trust my own eyes.

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому

      @@proto-geek248 So you don't trust the Drinker's reviews either then... right? 😆

    • @proto-geek248
      @proto-geek248 10 місяців тому +1

      @@greggibson33 Yeah well, ok. There are always exceptions. I trust Drinker, Disparu, Chris, AZ, Nerdrotic & several others. I haven't trusted RT in a long time.

    • @DamienDarkside
      @DamienDarkside 9 місяців тому +1

      @@greggibson33Nope, he's just an opinion on a movie. Anyone who takes a word like that is just asking to be manipulated. Drinker is clearly biased, but every online reviewer is. Your base of reviewers shouldn't be mostly these guys.
      It's more like "Well if he likes it I probably will like it", but Drinker and the lot does go on a bit over manufactured American fears.

  • @Oudeis000
    @Oudeis000 10 місяців тому +16

    To quote Othello: “who steals my purse steals trash…But he that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him and makes me poor indeed.” How sad that these bribed reviewers regarded their reputations so cheaply!

  • @davidcanty7903
    @davidcanty7903 10 місяців тому +11

    Fry "I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! Well not that shocked."

  • @scifidesign2
    @scifidesign2 10 місяців тому +30

    The publishing industry has been plagued with paid for reviews for years.

  • @MariusWales
    @MariusWales 10 місяців тому +71

    Wait, people are shocked by this?

    • @Nobleheart111
      @Nobleheart111 10 місяців тому +5

      No.

    • @ryckarduhryckarduh180
      @ryckarduhryckarduh180 10 місяців тому +8

      The point is not if you knew or not the point is they got caught, but for some reason half the comments are "I knew that already" yes, we all did, now stop making this about you and try to understand that its not about them being corrupt, its about them being caught doing it

    • @Nobleheart111
      @Nobleheart111 10 місяців тому

      Why? Does it matter they got caught?
      Nothing will be done.
      Nothing will change.
      Focus on yourself, and know that liars should be ignored and shunned.@@ryckarduhryckarduh180

    • @MariusWales
      @MariusWales 10 місяців тому

      @@Anoneemus_Noenayme I think it's more the media pretends it's news to them.

  • @TheBatman2022DC
    @TheBatman2022DC 10 місяців тому +26

    RT died the day the last jedi score came out!!!

    • @MariusWales
      @MariusWales 10 місяців тому +2

      That’s when it began and ended.

    • @planetbob6703
      @planetbob6703 10 місяців тому +6

      Some clown called me a conspiracy theorist when I pointed out the score hadn't changed in weeks😂
      They obviously set a minimum and tge actual score was already below that. Otherwise it would have moved up and down a little while new reviews were still coming in

    • @need-to-know-
      @need-to-know- 10 місяців тому

      @@planetbob6703 ask him, “how you like me now?”

    • @SuperFitzieZX
      @SuperFitzieZX 10 місяців тому

      Or with that whole debacle with Captain Marvel too

  • @richtea615
    @richtea615 10 місяців тому +194

    If they can manufacture and lie about something as inconsequential as film reviews, just imagine what the machine is doing with regard to war and politics.

    • @irishbob26
      @irishbob26 10 місяців тому +5

      I think your confusing 2 different things.

    • @DrakonR
      @DrakonR 10 місяців тому +40

      ​@@irishbob26lol. No confusion at all. You must love that main stream propaganda straight into the veins.

    • @paulbangash4317
      @paulbangash4317 10 місяців тому +31

      Don’t even have to imagine it. Just watch the ‘news’.

    • @irishbob26
      @irishbob26 10 місяців тому +6

      @DrakonR no I'm irish. I'm smart enough not to give a f about Americas retarded political situation.
      But just out of curiosity what machine are you referring to?

    • @DigitalAsshat
      @DigitalAsshat 10 місяців тому

      ​@@irishbob26do you really believe you're not affected by the USA? We all are in the west (German here). The coof, the war, everything. All news organizations are in the hands of an influential few who also control politics. When my government states that water is wet I'll doubt even that.

  • @Hollyclown
    @Hollyclown 10 місяців тому +25

    Ever since I saw Batwoman get a higher score than Joker, I knew that sight was rigged. Granted it was earlier than that, but that’s when I started noticing a trend.

    • @xFlareLeon
      @xFlareLeon 9 місяців тому

      Joker is definitely a good movie, but I get more enjoyment out of Batwoman.
      With Joker it was a bleak, depressing slog about a mentally unstable man pushed beyond the breaking point that had almost nothing to do with Batman and made no sense fitting into the other movies.
      With Batwoman it feels a little more like a piece of Batman media, even if it's laughably poorly written with cringy feminist dialogue.

    • @donutbevil9669
      @donutbevil9669 9 місяців тому

      @@xFlareLeon Joker was itself a standalone movie. Batwoman was, quite possibly, just a tax write off.

    • @richardhunter132
      @richardhunter132 9 місяців тому

      both Batwoman and Joker come from DC, which is a large media company, so I don't know why they would favour one over another

    • @Omo-ragnolo96
      @Omo-ragnolo96 9 місяців тому

      Joker is overrated

  • @VonChoker
    @VonChoker 10 місяців тому +43

    I just picture it more like the scene from Jurassic Park with Nedry sitting at a Colombian restaurant "Dodson, Dodson, we've got Dodson here" "Tomatoes, Tomatoes, we've got Rotten Tomatoes here" - and no body around gives a sh*t

  • @frostyfilmwatcher2148
    @frostyfilmwatcher2148 10 місяців тому +78

    A lesson to all, never trust what a company says at face value. Do research yourself and make up your own damn mind.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 10 місяців тому +7

      Exactly.

    • @elone3997
      @elone3997 10 місяців тому +5

      Yup, it's the only way to be sure...

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 10 місяців тому

      @@elone3997👍

    • @pederjohansen2029
      @pederjohansen2029 10 місяців тому +2

      "Trust the experts!.

    • @georgejones3526
      @georgejones3526 9 місяців тому +2

      Any time a company tells you they do things for any other reason than to make money, you know they are lying. Their only goal is to make as much money as possible regardless of any damage caused by doing so.

  • @StefunnyStrange
    @StefunnyStrange 10 місяців тому +13

    I think this is impacting ticket sales as well. I used to go on websites like this to see if a movie was worth it, but now they lie so much that I don’t trust any of these sites. So many times I’ve been disappointed. Awful movies rated at 80% or above! Now I look on UA-cam for non-spoiler reviews instead.

  • @seeinred
    @seeinred 10 місяців тому +23

    The only think i can say is "Just now?"
    Like, there was a clear fuckery with Captain Marvel when they just straight-up froze % of ratings. And that was ages ago.

  • @Right_Said_Brett
    @Right_Said_Brett 10 місяців тому +194

    It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that this has been going on for years. I mean, just look at how the audience score for The Rise of Skywalker stayed at precisely 86% ever since its release, never once fluctuating either way from that percentile, no matter how many more reviews were added. Yet, for years, people like me were told to take our tin foil hats off whenever we called Rotten Tomatoes out on their shenanigans.
    To all those people who've insulted and belittled people like me (you know, people with an actual brain, who are able to see clear manipulation of scores), get on your knees and apologise.

    • @_Uh_Oh_
      @_Uh_Oh_ 10 місяців тому +18

      Rings of Power was hilarious too.

    • @devlinallistair-zx5by
      @devlinallistair-zx5by 10 місяців тому +19

      Remove everyone who called you a conspiracy theorist from your life immediately.

    • @Right_Said_Brett
      @Right_Said_Brett 10 місяців тому +4

      @@devlinallistair-zx5by Heh, I was refeering to strangers online (forums and whatnot).

    • @devlinallistair-zx5by
      @devlinallistair-zx5by 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Right_Said_Brett ahhh. my comment still stands.

    • @theinsurance2450
      @theinsurance2450 10 місяців тому +13

      Those same people didn't apologize when they call people who refuse the poke (C virus shot) evil, when it turn out the CDC themselves said it doesn't matter if you get poke or not. So why do you think they would apologize for this.

  • @dronesclubhighjinks
    @dronesclubhighjinks 10 місяців тому +18

    Chris Gore explains Prince Harry’s book being a bestseller. 😂

    • @richtes
      @richtes 10 місяців тому +1

      It wasn’t? Waaaaah

    • @dronesclubhighjinks
      @dronesclubhighjinks 9 місяців тому

      @@richtes It was the best selling nonfiction book in the US. You can look it up if you want.

  • @bruhdon4748
    @bruhdon4748 10 місяців тому +25

    Like Chris said I think it’s less so the money & more so the power of being invited by studios to premiers and getting first access and special treatment by the studios, every media company and journalist wants the first exclusive look and story, the second you don’t play ball they won’t either.

    • @michaelmarks1391
      @michaelmarks1391 10 місяців тому +2

      Remember when Amazon brought all those Tolkien-themed youtubers and podcasters to the UK for a big viewing party? Every one of them insisted that they were independent and Amazon offered no compensation. (Other than an all-expense paid vacation to the UK, advanced screening, meeting show runners, etc.) Then they all started using the same copy to talk about Rings of Power. I dropped a few subscriptions that day.

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 10 місяців тому +1

      @@michaelmarks1391 that’s so cringe, hate it when people try and come across like they’re impartial and non biased but are bought and paid for by corporations

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 10 місяців тому

      @@michaelmarks1391 I hope nerd of the rings isn’t one of these? I like his videos would be a shame to find out he grifted for Amazon

    • @michaelmarks1391
      @michaelmarks1391 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bruhdon4748 I suspect he was but I can't say for sure. I can't remember. The one that got me was the Prancing Pony Podcast guys because I was listening to it a lot at the time. Critical Drinker, George the Giant Slayer, Just Some Guy etc did videos on it I'm sure you could dig up. It seems like all the creators involved went on to make a "I went to the UK for a Rings of Power preview and it was AWESOME!!!" video.
      EDIT: Yeah, he was. ua-cam.com/video/B4-g2rdGn6k/v-deo.html It doesn't mean his videos aren't any good, but just that he can't be trusted to be impartial.

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 10 місяців тому +1

      @@michaelmarks1391 damn dude, I didn’t realise that had happened at all, will look for the critical drinker video about it, really can’t stand people who become corporate shills like that, just lose all integrity and respect in my eyes

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims 10 місяців тому +33

    If game companies buy UA-cam reviews and let’s plays (which they do) then yeah movie companies buying critics is way easier

    • @c0d3warrior
      @c0d3warrior 10 місяців тому

      To be fair, I've found some really nice niche games through obviously paid let's-plays. I don't have a problem with that kind of advertising as the streamers show you exactly what kind of gameplay you'll have to expect and you have a fair chance to evaluate if the advertised product suits you. You'll have to be a bit sensitive about what they _don't_ say about the game, though. But even if you buy a game and realise later that it isn't as great as you hoped for, at least you supported some small indie dev and not a giant company that willingfully doesn't produce a better game.

    • @looinrims
      @looinrims 10 місяців тому +2

      @@c0d3warrior giant companies pay employees their salaries too btw, but it’s still dishonest to sponsor gameplay because it’s not just that, in gaming they’re treated as 3rd party advertisers while really acting like 1st party, saying exactly what the company wants

  • @rofflesvanwagon
    @rofflesvanwagon 10 місяців тому +31

    Glad I don't use review sites to choose my movies

  • @28br
    @28br 10 місяців тому +29

    who wouldve thunk

    • @dansemacabre6515
      @dansemacabre6515 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you

    • @kchikwete
      @kchikwete 10 місяців тому +2

      In other news the sky is blue

  • @Scoley01
    @Scoley01 10 місяців тому +21

    Rotten tomatoes can’t be trusted!? (shocked face). I’ve known those people were dirty for years. Especially when they went to the verified audience score to try to boost the numbers on terrible movies, that was bullsh*t.
    There’s very few people I listen to when it comes to reviews.
    One of them is a man whose name escapes me at the moment, but he’s very critical, and he drinks a lot.

  • @paulanderson771
    @paulanderson771 10 місяців тому +17

    It became blatant during the MCU. For most of the MCU, the RT reviews were mostly that super hero movies were the equivalent of watching children bash two action figures together, but suddenly RT started giving glowing praise to the MCU releases and it was pretty clear there were both kickbacks, and a lot of unknown critics writing up the articles. It used to be a film critic's job to tell you what a film was doing wrong and maybe offer a suggestion for how a scene that fails should have worked. Instead they just affirm whatever the seal clapping dregs want to hear about the film.

    • @Penguinzero1
      @Penguinzero1 10 місяців тому

      Those movies are great

    • @magicjohnson3121
      @magicjohnson3121 10 місяців тому +3

      @Penguinzero1 these movies are formulaic garbage. They were never good. They would get low scores in any other decade.

    • @Penguinzero1
      @Penguinzero1 10 місяців тому

      @@magicjohnson3121 you have bad taste

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому

      Congrats. You literally couldn't be more wrong about the facts if you tried..... Well done! 😅

    • @KonohazFinest
      @KonohazFinest 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Penguinzero1well first they weren't all great and second the ones that were weren't perfect as rotten tomatoes had everyone believe. Part of the MCU's success hinged on being held up by rotten tomatoes word of mouth. Iron man 1 fantastic, iron man 2 meh, 3 was ok at best, cap 1 ok,2 was one of marvels best movies, civil war was great,ant man 1 decent,2 was meh,3 was garbage, thor 1 was good,2 was just plain bad,3 was pretty good,4 was dog shit, avengers 1 was fantastic,2 was ok, etc infinity war was there best movie and endgame was overrated only thing good about it was the last 30 mins. I dont include craptain marvel because that was just pure shit.

  • @AustinCDavis
    @AustinCDavis 10 місяців тому +4

    You can barely even go to the theater to see a movie for $50 anymore!

  • @turdferguson7264
    @turdferguson7264 10 місяців тому +20

    So you're telling me that Dude Where's My Car isn't 96% fresh?

  • @Arizona-ex5yt
    @Arizona-ex5yt 10 місяців тому +19

    We’ve always felt and suspected this but now there’s definite proof.

  • @forsaken7976
    @forsaken7976 10 місяців тому +5

    “I thought the movie was terrible. 4/5 stars! “
    Now where’s my 50 bucks! I need some soy latte money for the week.

  • @mattcarper9853
    @mattcarper9853 10 місяців тому +12

    Well....confirming what we all pretty much expected......

  • @petrowegynyolc7108
    @petrowegynyolc7108 10 місяців тому +14

    Rotten tomatoes - rotten to the core
    It rhymes, like poetry.

  • @TheSlackrguy
    @TheSlackrguy 10 місяців тому +19

    Great discussion. It seems like reviewers across many mediums (films, video games, action figures) are more than happy to give favorable coverage to those who grant them access.

    • @TheSlackrguy
      @TheSlackrguy 10 місяців тому

      @@Anoneemus_Noenayme Yeah, I hear phrasing like from Breaking Points too. I am pretty sure they narrow the scope and call it “access journalism” instead of media. It’s a real thing, unfortunately.

  • @wesmantooth9686
    @wesmantooth9686 10 місяців тому +38

    This is the reason you’ve become one of the if not the most respected critic. Keep being honest.

  • @kickhisassseabass318
    @kickhisassseabass318 10 місяців тому +13

    Hope that superchat gentleman is ok? Praying for him🙏

  • @Chris-bx4vk
    @Chris-bx4vk 10 місяців тому +86

    Please create your own review platform with trusted critics

    • @jacotacomorocco
      @jacotacomorocco 10 місяців тому +8

      THIS IDEA

    • @impossivel2006
      @impossivel2006 10 місяців тому +7

      yes

    • @bruhdon4748
      @bruhdon4748 10 місяців тому

      Things always get corrupted, eventually dickheads liars and manipulators eventually worm their way in. Vice used to be fairly centre right of a journalism company & is now ultra left wing. Always happens.

    • @QbixGer
      @QbixGer 10 місяців тому +17

      It already exists and you are posting on it.

    • @c0d3warrior
      @c0d3warrior 10 місяців тому

      ​@@QbixGer A stand-alone website with a critique in textform would be easier to find for normies googleing for "[moviename] review" though. And it could drive more people here.

  • @geekmastermind
    @geekmastermind 10 місяців тому +8

    I noticed a long time ago that reviews that were clearly negative were still being given "fresh" status for saying that they liked an actress' dress in a certain scene.

  • @EverettBurger
    @EverettBurger 10 місяців тому +3

    Reminds me of the "Positive Review" for A Knights Tale by a movie reviewer that didn't exist at a Bridgewater, Connecticut newspaper.
    This review that didn't really happen made it to the marketing of the film

    • @caronstout354
      @caronstout354 9 місяців тому

      Fake reviewer + real (or fake) newspaper = studio sway for $

  • @hawksafe
    @hawksafe 10 місяців тому +66

    Look at Barbie under verified reviews and look at how many reviews (after the few pages cuz they got caught) for the phrases "I laugh" and "I cried"

    • @gunkulator1
      @gunkulator1 10 місяців тому +5

      Audience score for Barbie is 83%. I saw it. It was a lot of fun. The "message" was maybe 5% of the movie but it took up about three quarters of the Drinker's review. Of course that's what his audience wants to focus on so that's what he gave them. I'm all for calling out pandering to Hollywood but I'm also not going to pretend that someone with almost 2 million subscribers on youtube, enough to earn a living, is also somehow not immune to pandering to whatever makes him money. If you're going to make a video on that subject at least have the honesty to self reflect on how you too are "influenced" by the same thing you are criticizing.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 10 місяців тому +5

      @@gunkulator1 "The cat shit on the plate was maybe 5% of the meal but it took up about three quarters of the review. "

    • @Deadgod91
      @Deadgod91 10 місяців тому +2

      Barbie had an insane marketing and advertising budget, no doubt some of this went to the critics.

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +2

      @@gunkulator1 100% correct. Finally someone gets it. Not only is he a hypocrite but he's misleading with the facts of the article and situation. I wonder if he knows or cares that this is a very bad look.

    • @greggibson33
      @greggibson33 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Deadgod91 First part of sentence: Correct.... second part: Incorrect. You have zero evidence.

  • @MrCdnBeef
    @MrCdnBeef 10 місяців тому +17

    Definitely with you, Drinker. I would rather be hated for speaking the truth

  • @Dr_Binx
    @Dr_Binx 10 місяців тому +10

    It’s honestly silly to think that anything else was goin on at this point

  • @steveouk90126
    @steveouk90126 10 місяців тому +2

    ~4 years ago we all noticed that _Rise of Skywalker_ was stuck at 86% no matter how many reviews posted. Then whole blocks of reviews were deleted; and the end is listless.

  • @WilliamTheMovieFan
    @WilliamTheMovieFan 10 місяців тому +6

    It is the least surprising fact ever revealed.

  • @stephenmartland-buck9590
    @stephenmartland-buck9590 10 місяців тому +13

    I never go off movie review scores anymore. Instead I pay attention to how the review talks about a movie. You can almost always tell if the points brought up are honest. I have disagreed with a couple of the Drinkers reviews in the past, but I always trust his recommendations and opinions coming from a place of truth 👊

    • @peterschiller5287
      @peterschiller5287 10 місяців тому

      I'm pretty sure the Drinker "marketed" for Picard S03. An utterly horrible season/show, but it got a positive review from him.

    • @stephenmartland-buck9590
      @stephenmartland-buck9590 10 місяців тому +1

      @@peterschiller5287 I haven't watched any of Picard so couldn't comment. I do remember a lot of the guys I follow raving about s3. Ultimately I was just trying to say I'm very cynical about most reviews but I've been following Drinker for years now and trust his opinions (generally speaking).

    • @peterschiller5287
      @peterschiller5287 10 місяців тому

      @@stephenmartland-buck9590 Yes, he is definitely a smart guy with a keen mind for story telling, but he also has a bias and sometimes omits key facts about movies than don't fit his narrative. The ending of Barbie comes to mind, where he pretends that the Kens stay subjugated, where in fact the Barbies just demand that the Kens MERIT their future positions.
      Well, and his Picard S03 review was definitely part of a large UA-cam marketing campaign (as were Nerdrotic's reviews, and Dave Cullen's and Cato's, etc.). I really like the Drinker, and I think he's generally being honest, but I'm also aware now, that for the right amount of money he'll tell you anything.

  • @marychocolatefairy
    @marychocolatefairy 10 місяців тому +3

    There's something I noticed with RT's audience score for the Willow show. While eps were coming out, the score was consistently in the 30s-40s and therefore "rotten". Then some time later, I saw that it had magically been raised to the 70s and thus was now "fresh". Highly suspicious, especially as the show definitely did not have a surge of appreciative viewers after it's initial run. In fact, it was so badly received that they eventually just removed it from Disney+, lol.

  • @boomcat1337
    @boomcat1337 10 місяців тому +7

    i dont think any of us "normal" people are shocked ?

  • @kabukidad82
    @kabukidad82 10 місяців тому +17

    About time this got some spotlight! Well in drinker!

  • @LeoJay
    @LeoJay 10 місяців тому +6

    I'm glad those reviewers knew their worth, 50$ is still too much for them.

    • @peterschiller5287
      @peterschiller5287 10 місяців тому

      Their actual worth would be more around -50$.

  • @Aelwyn666
    @Aelwyn666 10 місяців тому +5

    Rotten Tomatoes gets a Rotten Score. How fitting.

  • @tehkill3r
    @tehkill3r 10 місяців тому +8

    Rotten tomatoes faking reviews? YOU DON'T SAY!

  • @kadourimdou43
    @kadourimdou43 10 місяців тому +11

    So they’re rotten then?

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 10 місяців тому +5

    The heads of bunker 15 used to work at disney.
    Upper Echelon has done a fantastic video detailing who owns who and who is in charge of the reviews and it boils down to only a few people who all worked together previously.

  • @indy_go_blue6048
    @indy_go_blue6048 10 місяців тому +1

    Comedian Mel Brooks was once asked what he thought of critics. "I like them. I like the music they make when they rub their wings together." The interviewer corrected him, "I said critics, not crickets." "Oh. Well I don't like them. They make their money living on other people's garbage."

    • @KJ-of6lf
      @KJ-of6lf 10 місяців тому

      With the birth of the artist came the inevitable afterbirth, the art critic...

  • @nathanbennett9999
    @nathanbennett9999 10 місяців тому +2

    I worked for Chinese media and I took the media goodie bags because I figured it was pr rather than journalism anyway...

  • @jenanne31
    @jenanne31 10 місяців тому +7

    Wow, a whole $50 to sell my soul! What a deal. Thanks for your content, Drinker.

    • @dbsommers1
      @dbsommers1 9 місяців тому

      They have no soul to begin with. So it's a case of getting something for nothing.

  • @philw8049
    @philw8049 10 місяців тому +6

    Pretty sad, someones honor was worth less then $50.00.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 9 місяців тому +1

    It's one thing to realize the truth and know what is going on, but to actually get confirmation just feels so relieving in a way.

  • @sirloin8745
    @sirloin8745 10 місяців тому +2

    Corruption in the Entertainment Industry? How did the Critical Doggo not see this?

  • @THEremiXFACTOR
    @THEremiXFACTOR 9 місяців тому +3

    One thing people don't mention often is how they categorize reviews (Drinker actually mentions this at 10:40). Meaning how they decide if a review is 'fresh' or 'rotten'.
    I remember when Man Of Steel came out, a British newspaper gave the film 3/5, with a review that suggested that it was ok with some problems. RT labelled that review 'rotten'. So, of course, if they do that a lot it will really affect the overall rating/percentage.

  • @iRoppa
    @iRoppa 10 місяців тому +5

    We all KNEW it. Now we can PROVE it. Job done.

  • @AMac-qd6ft
    @AMac-qd6ft 10 місяців тому +1

    Jay Sherman said it best 30 years ago--
    "I am a movie critic by trade, and until recently, I got paid to tell you people which movies merely stink and which ones you shouldn’t screen near an open flame. Well, I’m putting the burden of lousy movies back on you. It’s very simple: if you stop going to bad movies, they’ll stop making bad movies. If the movie used to be a TV show, just don’t go. After Roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's a remake of a classic, rent the classic. Tell them you want stories about people, not a hundred million dollars of stunts and explosives. People, it’s up to you. If the movie stinks, just don’t go."

  • @Paetaor
    @Paetaor 10 місяців тому +4

    I’m shocked, shocked I tell you…well not that shocked.

  • @redman4669
    @redman4669 10 місяців тому +4

    Leigh Brown sounds like a username you make to sound funny when people read your supperchats

  • @whip_pan
    @whip_pan 10 місяців тому +16

    A few television series, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ms. Marvel, & She Hulk have great reviews on RT, I think I'll check them out 🍅

  • @franciscorafaelmontielpale7854
    @franciscorafaelmontielpale7854 10 місяців тому +3

    9:56
    - Chris Stuckmann
    - Angry Joe
    - Grace Randolph
    - and of course, king of all… John Campea.
    Also PR firms could make money, if they simply kept their actors, directors and writers shit up… Seriously many films fall because the crew are too stupid and keep making things worse.

  • @joshuanelson6795
    @joshuanelson6795 10 місяців тому +1

    I have never met a single person who makes decisions on which movies they will watch based on Rotten Tomatoes scores.

  • @IBTU
    @IBTU 10 місяців тому +5

    Knew this for ages! Just look at the site and the reviews it’s like bots wrote the reviews

  • @IRedpunk
    @IRedpunk 10 місяців тому +5

    Wasn’t it already known since the whole Cpt Marvel campaign?

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 10 місяців тому +1

      Now that we have confirmation that reviews are being bought, we'll probably hear confirmation eventually that studios buy out theaters, too.

  • @DustinBarlow8P
    @DustinBarlow8P 10 місяців тому +2

    This and Politics, has taught me to ask for receipts on EVERYTHING. My niece came up to me and told me something she learned in school. I told her to go find reputable sites and print me off some evidence, that what she learned was true. She came back an hour later, and she learned it wasn't true, but she found the actual truth, and printed it off. I gave her a $50 for her time, and told her to never take anybody at their word unless you have proof they are normally honest.

  • @vanessac1721
    @vanessac1721 10 місяців тому +1

    The new Little Mermaid has an audience score in the 90s with over 10000 reviews so I don't even know if I trust audience scores anymore.

  • @johannderjager4146
    @johannderjager4146 10 місяців тому +3

    I thought everyone already knew this...

  • @RianNotReynolds
    @RianNotReynolds 10 місяців тому +3

    And this is why anyone who doesn't live entirely by politics/ideology ignores critic reviews

  • @seismojones
    @seismojones 10 місяців тому +2

    Rotten Tomatoes used to be fairly accurate but things changed when they were bought by Fandango.
    Fandango also sells movie tickets so that revenue depends on people buying tickets to movies with positive reviews.
    I'm sure that's just a coincidence. 🙄

  • @maxmazzotti6651
    @maxmazzotti6651 10 місяців тому +2

    So now we know why the scores of Ghostbusters 2016, the last Jedi, captain marvel
    , and fragging cuties are rated differently by critics than what they should be.

  • @dwaynebrietzke
    @dwaynebrietzke 10 місяців тому +4

    I used to follow Rotten Tomatoes years ago. Nowadays there are a few youtube movie reviewers I watch and trust to get my recommendations. Angry Joe, Chris Stuckman, Jeremy Jahns, Dan Murrell and of course The Drinker!. I will usually try to see at least 2 or 3 of the reviews before deciding to see a movie. I was not going to see Grand Turismo, but positive reviews by these channels got me to go, and I had a good time. These channels have also saved me a lot of money by allowing me to avoid stinkers.

    • @sigmacademy
      @sigmacademy 10 місяців тому +2

      Stuckman bashed The Drinker in one of his videos in a typical trend of attacking "problematic UA-camrs" to score points in his circle since he wants to get into Hollywood. I was also a Stuckman viewer, but I dropped watching his videos after that. :/

  • @slimthumbtak
    @slimthumbtak 10 місяців тому +3

    I used to work in movie marketing. It happens all the time and has been happening for a long time.

  • @pepsi-mcrib
    @pepsi-mcrib 10 місяців тому +2

    Just a little reminder who owns Rotten Tomatoes: Warner Bros. Discovery (25%), NBCUniversal (75%). That's basically enough to draw some conclusions.

  • @armandoalvarez5910
    @armandoalvarez5910 10 місяців тому +1

    Remember a while ago when there was a joint lawsuit about false advertisement in trailers? And actually resulted in a change in how they had to make them?
    Could the movie critic industry be also sued like that? The whole review industry could count as false advertisement or at the very least bad practices to sue them?

  • @XperimentorEES
    @XperimentorEES 10 місяців тому +4

    People with common sense and critical thinking already knew this (same as with the award shows), but it's always funny when they get caught red handed!

  • @BobSmith-gl3sn
    @BobSmith-gl3sn 10 місяців тому +4

    No way! Say it isn't so! I don't believe it! 😂 can we call this Reviewersgate?

  • @sherlockholmesam1374
    @sherlockholmesam1374 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember seeing a review on rotten tomatoes from a critic that gave the dark knight rises a rotten score and the reasoning was “it won’t make much sense unless you’ve seen the first two films” - that was it for me

  • @cryptomnesiac
    @cryptomnesiac 10 місяців тому +3

    It's a damn shame how slow the species crawls. What Chris is saying about the media here, I've been saying since the mid 2000's.

  • @Gypsygeekfreak17
    @Gypsygeekfreak17 10 місяців тому +24

    How could anyone take RT seriously after giving cuties a good review

  • @UnderratedBurnyBadger
    @UnderratedBurnyBadger 9 місяців тому

    Being hated by Hollywood should be considered a badge of honor, tbh.

  • @anthonyml7
    @anthonyml7 10 місяців тому +1

    "How do you think people become famous, who are morons?" I always thought it was social media lol

  • @ryancparker
    @ryancparker 10 місяців тому +5

    You guys are years behind on this one. If you go into the comments of audience reviews you’ll be able to tell within a few minutes which movies have been overwhelmed by fake studio reviews.