What are your favourite Vocal mixing tricks or tips? Any particular effects you love? Reverbs? Delays? This vocal mixing video is an expert from Joe's new course which you can get here: promixacademy.com/course/joe-carrell-mixing-kayley-bishop/
Hey, do you have any annual or monthly subscription for classes? thanks edit : I saw 199$ per year for 'Produce Like A Pro' , but I don't see anything for 'Pro Mix Academy'
Idk if you're still reading comments, but this was by far one of the best videos I've ever watched covering vocals. Seriously, thank you so much for this tutorial.
Nah men, this Joe Carrell guy is something else. Just different, unique and intelligent. His decision making, his intentionality and attention to detail. Yet so humble and generous with his knowledge which he developed over decades. I have seen lots of tutorials but this guy genuinely wants you to be better at mixing. He's low key Fathering and mentoring the next generation of producers who can't afford elite mixing engineers yet but still have to eliminate excuses and put out music. It's almost like I am in the studio with him. I am so grateful to everyone that put this together. You guys might not be surgeons but you are saving lives.
That parallel compression at about 9:30 was amazing. I'd never thought of using it to simply increase the volume of a part. To add some attitude with a nice crunch, yeah that makes sense, but I was blown away by how much clarity you added.
1:47 It makes so much sense ‼️😳 it’s like something just unlocked when you made that statement‼️ this entire time I’ve been mixing almost maximum volume‼️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I quite literally just finished this part of the course this morning. The great tip, using the C1 on an aux to help calm a little of her high mids? BRILLIANT. Really neat approach and it immediately made that extra bit pro sound. Keep up the great work, PLAP team! - Chris
Definitely an excellent tip but didn't he use the C1 (as an insert) directly on the Lead Vox track? That track is then sent to his Vocal Buss....I haven't seen the whole course but that's what it looked like to me.
Love Joe’s teaching style. He articulates everything so clearly. I unfortunately have to work with bad recordings every week from being recorded in a gym for our church services, but I have managed to get a few great mixes out of these bad situations. I am learning from experience and Joe that it is not just plug and play always and how to change my listening skills and not to compress too much. Thank you
@22:51 Yeah, wow that might have taught me as much about vocals as Warren's drum editing tutorial taught me a workflow. Might have to grab the whole course! ❤
Fascinating..I will have to build a BIIIG template with everything in bypass but already dialed in pretty closely. VOCAL TEMPLATE V4.42 FINAL_FINAL V2 coming up🤣😂 Thx as always for the great teaching, Joe!
Joe this was so helpful to me. Man the wisdom just comes out every second. I learn a lot from you. I've struggled with vocals my whole career, but you've opened up my mind. Also getting the MC404 for the first time. Loving it!
I love side chain reverbs and delays give more clarity in the vocal!.. saturation and flare is the go to for good sounding vocal.. the new Michelangelo eq is insane good for vocal character ❤ Automation is a must have for a perfect Vocal Sound! ❤️👌👍
Joe certainly invites you to explore the possibilities with his explanations in these video exerts. Getting one of his courses is on my immediate radar. The one thing I have noticed and is glaringly obvious is the fact his multi tracks are masterfully captured and processed/cleaned up by the time we are able to download. They have a certain sound to them as well, very thick, tight, crisp and punchy with nothing else really needed therefore the tracks essentially mix themselves by just moving faders and pans. The obvious conclusion is sure many pro mixers make their mixes in the box AFTER an engineer has captured the tracks from a console. I have noticed that portion of the equation gets lost in the mass discussion although it is essential. Sure there may be some exceptions here and there but that only reinforces the rule not break it.
Thanks you for watching! I absolutely prefer mixing my own tracks. I think a lot of engineers would say that. But half of my mixing worker more does come from elsewhere. Sometimes it is great and sometimes it is a recovery mission. Have to be ready for anything and everything. 😂
Great, learnt a fair bit watching this, really love the control you can get, I was kinda in a rough ball park but this just really helped me consolidate a few things I was wondering about, also... so...mixing, it's pretty much juggling plates while the wind blows, roger 10-4!
Really good tutorial... Kindly, if it is possible, it would be greatly appreciated if you could do a masterclass of sorts for Dialog Mixing for film....
That’s actually their PreQ2! It’s a fantastic piece. Great high, headroom clean, but yet transformer, based pre-amplifier with an EQ for Tracking….OR a line level stereo equalizer with Cliff’s famous air band! 🎉🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Amazing, I have the plugins from Maag, the EQ2, EQ4 and the compressor, I believe you about the open clear sound, On some material I use the airband EQ's too if I want a little more sparkle in the top end. And they look fabulous with that light blue.
Great as always joe! Is that a cherry limeade in the sonic cup? I have family in cookeville TN and they drink it all the time, must be a Tennessee thing 😂🤘
I saw the video title and read it as "Mixing Vocals with Jerry Cantrell" and I instantly clicked on it:) Maybe you''ll consider doing one for Alice In Chains style vocals?
That doesn't mimic the characteristics of the NS 10's he uses. The NS !0's have super hyped mids, I'm sure there some emulations that do that, probably most notably with Steven Slate's VSX headphones.
I checked into this and it seems there are some NS10 IR files that may get some of the curve matched. That said, I like just turning the volume down and focusing on the mids like Joe mentions. It's all about finding what works best for you.
Can we just simplify it like all the greats? This is like the OCD most overthought, superfluous bus, send it, “I’ve lost my mind” advice. We all can achieve same effect w 2-3 six bus’ at most. Everyone relax 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve seen many “great” with a LOT of things stacked on vocals over and over. My personal approach is whatever gets me the results I want to hear at the end. That may be a single channel strip with only a high Pass filter engaged or it may be a combination of several things to achieve what I need to present it to the client. And that approach has been highly succesful for me personally. However, If you get the sound your clients expect every time with no more than two or three plug-ins that’s exactly exactly what you should stick with. Whatever keeps the money rolling in and our artists thrilled to bring back their next production. Best wishes and thank you for watching!
Such a shame...I always have to run these videos back....not because of the mounds of information....but because i always spend the 1st half drooling trying to see what gear i can spot in the background
Man, I guess mixing standards really differ by genres. Because I'd be thinking "Those vocals are way too loud" and then Joe would pause it and say, "She's not loud enough." I like an upfront vocal, but the volume of the vocals in pop country is just nuts.
It’s not just because of the genre necessarily, it’s most likely because he understands the mastering stage, and how a lot of the song will “fill in” with eachother. Especially as you start to add compression and mid side processing, etc.
Any song that has a chance of radio play, Pop, Country, R&B etc will have a vocal a little louder than a typical Rock song. Although of course plenty of modern rock has very loud vocals.
Where on earth do they always find these never greens ? No production could make them even mildly interesting. By the way , audience doesn't give a duck about all these finesses
The audience isn’t our client friend. The artist, producer, and labels pay the wages of a production professional. And they do very much care about the sound of the finished product. So we need to be exceptional at what we do or be content to NOT make a living in this industry. Best wishes.
I would have to disagree that the audience wouldn't care about the vocal being balanced, level and audible above the music! I can't imagine a track where words were lost because not enough compression was applied to a vocal.
And yes, giving an artist sub standard work because 'who cares?' is not something I would suggest when building your business and reputation in this industry
What are your favourite Vocal mixing tricks or tips? Any particular effects you love? Reverbs? Delays? This vocal mixing video is an expert from Joe's new course which you can get here: promixacademy.com/course/joe-carrell-mixing-kayley-bishop/
Not sure if it counts as a trick, but I love LA2A and Distressors with lots of automation!
That's a good one@@CrushingAxes
Hey, do you have any annual or monthly subscription for classes? thanks
edit : I saw 199$ per year for 'Produce Like A Pro' , but I don't see anything for 'Pro Mix Academy'
We have tons of courses, you can buy the 'everything bundle' we offer that as a special@@LudomixxX
Serial compression
Idk if you're still reading comments, but this was by far one of the best videos I've ever watched covering vocals. Seriously, thank you so much for this tutorial.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks ever so much!
Nah men, this Joe Carrell guy is something else. Just different, unique and intelligent. His decision making, his intentionality and attention to detail. Yet so humble and generous with his knowledge which he developed over decades. I have seen lots of tutorials but this guy genuinely wants you to be better at mixing. He's low key Fathering and mentoring the next generation of producers who can't afford elite mixing engineers yet but still have to eliminate excuses and put out music. It's almost like I am in the studio with him. I am so grateful to everyone that put this together. You guys might not be surgeons but you are saving lives.
That parallel compression at about 9:30 was amazing. I'd never thought of using it to simply increase the volume of a part. To add some attitude with a nice crunch, yeah that makes sense, but I was blown away by how much clarity you added.
1:47 It makes so much sense ‼️😳 it’s like something just unlocked when you made that statement‼️ this entire time I’ve been mixing almost maximum volume‼️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Agreed 100%!
Nice!! Best wishes man ✌🏼
I quite literally just finished this part of the course this morning. The great tip, using the C1 on an aux to help calm a little of her high mids? BRILLIANT. Really neat approach and it immediately made that extra bit pro sound.
Keep up the great work, PLAP team! - Chris
Agreed! The C1 is VERY cool! Frankly I'm going to borrow that for myself!
Definitely an excellent tip but didn't he use the C1 (as an insert) directly on the Lead Vox track? That track is then sent to his Vocal Buss....I haven't seen the whole course but that's what it looked like to me.
@@shadowkyd Good catch! Watching again it does appear he's using it as an insert. I think the premise is the same and it's neat idea.
Thank you for grabbing the course!!
Marvellous!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
Love Joe’s teaching style. He articulates everything so clearly. I unfortunately have to work with bad recordings every week from being recorded in a gym for our church services, but I have managed to get a few great mixes out of these bad situations. I am learning from experience and Joe that it is not just plug and play always and how to change my listening skills and not to compress too much. Thank you
Thank you! Best wishes
Joe is such a great teacher. Stealing all his tips for the mix competition!
Yes! Joe rules!!
Do it!! Thanks for watching Rory 🎉
@9:02 Oh, that's definitely a two thumbs up moment! This is a super video, so much of packed in here, thanks Joe!! 😮
@22:51 Yeah, wow that might have taught me as much about vocals as Warren's drum editing tutorial taught me a workflow. Might have to grab the whole course! ❤
That snare is SOOO GOOOD. Deep but clear :) I know that it's not the point of that video, but imo it is still worth pointing out
Yes! Great to hear!
Hahaha! Thank you sir. Appreciate you watching!
Joe's new course is the mutts nutts ( Pardon me ) and I can listen to Joe all day long. Great video Joe and a big thanks to the PLAP team
Hahah thanks ever so much Joey
Thank you for the support Joey!
Thanks@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
Rock on!
Fascinating..I will have to build a BIIIG template with everything in bypass but already dialed in pretty closely. VOCAL TEMPLATE V4.42 FINAL_FINAL V2 coming up🤣😂
Thx as always for the great teaching, Joe!
Joe Rules! Thanks ever so much
Exactly 😂 Ever evolving
Warren, Thank you for adding this with Joe C. Great insights into vocal mixing. I appreciate it.
Joe this was so helpful to me. Man the wisdom just comes out every second. I learn a lot from you. I've struggled with vocals my whole career, but you've opened up my mind. Also getting the MC404 for the first time. Loving it!
Joe Rocks! This course is awesome
Yes! It is!
Joe is amazing
Thank you John!!
I love side chain reverbs and delays give more clarity in the vocal!..
saturation and flare is the go to for good sounding vocal.. the new Michelangelo eq is insane good for vocal character ❤
Automation is a must have for a perfect Vocal Sound! ❤️👌👍
Awesome! This is gold! Great video!
Thanks ever so much! Joe Rules!
Thank you!
Thank YOU!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
Master class as always! Thanks PLaP and Joe!
You bet. Thanks for watching Luke
Our pleasure!
Superb! Especially enjoyed the vocal ambience tweaks.
Joe certainly invites you to explore the possibilities with his explanations in these video exerts. Getting one of his courses is on my immediate radar. The one thing I have noticed and is glaringly obvious is the fact his multi tracks are masterfully captured and processed/cleaned up by the time we are able to download. They have a certain sound to them as well, very thick, tight, crisp and punchy with nothing else really needed therefore the tracks essentially mix themselves by just moving faders and pans. The obvious conclusion is sure many pro mixers make their mixes in the box AFTER an engineer has captured the tracks from a console. I have noticed that portion of the equation gets lost in the mass discussion although it is essential. Sure there may be some exceptions here and there but that only reinforces the rule not break it.
Thanks you for watching! I absolutely prefer mixing my own tracks. I think a lot of engineers would say that. But half of my mixing worker more does come from elsewhere. Sometimes it is great and sometimes it is a recovery mission. Have to be ready for anything and everything. 😂
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell not the recovery mission!!! Lolololol 😂😭🤣
Such a nice explanation about depth and wide, much thank you
Wonderful!
Glad you think so! Thanks ever so much!
Thank you for watching Michael🎉
You Rock!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
An excellent tutorial. It's given me a few ideas for things to try at my next event. I mix live, and am always looking to try new things.
Great, learnt a fair bit watching this, really love the control you can get, I was kinda in a rough ball park but this just really helped me consolidate a few things I was wondering about, also... so...mixing, it's pretty much juggling plates while the wind blows, roger 10-4!
Haha. Sometimes that’s too accurate of a description.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell lol, thanks for your time and sharing this with everyone, appreciated.
I'll watch any video with Joe Carrell
That’s marvellous to hear
Thank you!!!
The Kiive version sounds really amazing!
Yes, I totally agree. If it doesn't work at low volume, it simply doesn't work.
Very true!
Bam!!!
Really good tutorial... Kindly, if it is possible, it would be greatly appreciated if you could do a masterclass of sorts for Dialog Mixing for film....
Thanks for watching!!
Joe, fancy doing a dialog mixing course?
Marvellous@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
Saludos y muy bueno el vídeo
Muchas gracias!
Thank you 🙏
Wow, Joe has a hardware Maag Compressor in the back, I'm a little jealous 😅
Haha yes, Joe tell us how you got that?
That’s actually their PreQ2! It’s a fantastic piece. Great high, headroom clean, but yet transformer, based pre-amplifier with an EQ for Tracking….OR a line level stereo equalizer with Cliff’s famous air band! 🎉🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Amazing, I have the plugins from Maag, the EQ2, EQ4 and the compressor, I believe you about the open clear sound, On some material I use the airband EQ's too if I want a little more sparkle in the top end. And they look fabulous with that light blue.
@@Bluelagoonstudios yes they do. They “pop” In a rack
This is one of the best Vocal Mixing tutorials. Gonna apply all those nifty technics in the ongoing mixing competition 😁 Thank you Joe
Awesome, thank you!
Joe Rules!!
You’re welcome!
Metal Mania!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell You Rule!
Always love Joe’s videos, very too the point and interesting. 👍🏻
Thank you Dirk!
Joe is THE Man!
You Rock!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell ps, which Adam 3-way are you using? I have soffit mounted S4x-V’s for more than 10 years and love them.
Great video. Joe rocks.
It's a great video, I just know use FL Studio but I wanna learn about Ableton
Thank you for watching!
Cool!! learned a lot here
Glad to hear it!
Great as always joe! Is that a cherry limeade in the sonic cup? I have family in cookeville TN and they drink it all the time, must be a Tennessee thing 😂🤘
Sonic is my jam!! Probably unsweet tea with strawberries and limes!!
more Harmonica, joe, please!!!
Right!!? when it’s played well it’s an amazing instrument
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell totally!!
nice
Thanks ever so much!
Thank you!
@Erock Rocks! (Eric - you should get that tag) ;)
3:41 - *lowpass* filter, Joe.... :)
good stuff
When you refer to the Relab LX480 "A Plate" which preset or setting in the LX480 are you referring to? Thanks
Can we do an episode on modem RnB vocals?
Absolutely!
I’m sure that can be arranged!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell dope
Slap delay at 62% width !!!??? So close to perfection. Damn! You would of nailed it at 61.8%.
I would have e gone for 61.79890145% for a more precise panning
I’m absolutely getting sloppy. My news year’s resolution should kick in soon though and I’ll try harder! Hahah. Thank you for watching Richard!!
Haha @@InTheMixJoeCarrell
I saw the video title and read it as "Mixing Vocals with Jerry Cantrell" and I instantly clicked on it:) Maybe you''ll consider doing one for Alice In Chains style vocals?
What kind of shake are you drinking?
Hahaha. Now that’s a legit question!! It was an iced tea from Sonic with strawberries and limes 🎉🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrellI’m glad you got a chuckle out of it 🙂. Really good stuff brother. You’re earning a fan out of me.
❤❤
Thanks ever so much
Thank you for watching!
anyone know whats actually going on with the bf76? Did avid ditch it?
Does mixing in mono help?
Letters to Eric! 😂
😂😂😂
Haha
Couldn't y9ou just do a low pass and high pass filter on the master bus instead of having separate midrange speakers?
That doesn't mimic the characteristics of the NS 10's he uses. The NS !0's have super hyped mids, I'm sure there some emulations that do that, probably most notably with Steven Slate's VSX headphones.
I checked into this and it seems there are some NS10 IR files that may get some of the curve matched. That said, I like just turning the volume down and focusing on the mids like Joe mentions. It's all about finding what works best for you.
As long as the IR is perfectly matched to the system you're monitoring on!@@guitboxgeek
With the VSX you can use Steven's headphones and the IR's are calibrated for the headphone's frequency response@@guitboxgeek
Can we just simplify it like all the greats? This is like the OCD most overthought, superfluous bus, send it, “I’ve lost my mind” advice. We all can achieve same effect w 2-3 six bus’ at most. Everyone relax 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve seen many “great” with a LOT of things stacked on vocals over and over. My personal approach is whatever gets me the results I want to hear at the end. That may be a single channel strip with only a high Pass filter engaged or it may be a combination of several things to achieve what I need to present it to the client. And that approach has been highly succesful for me personally. However, If you get the sound your clients expect every time with no more than two or three plug-ins that’s exactly exactly what you should stick with. Whatever keeps the money rolling in and our artists thrilled to bring back their next production. Best wishes and thank you for watching!
Such a shame...I always have to run these videos back....not because of the mounds of information....but because i always spend the 1st half drooling trying to see what gear i can spot in the background
You and me both! Haha
Man, I guess mixing standards really differ by genres. Because I'd be thinking "Those vocals are way too loud" and then Joe would pause it and say, "She's not loud enough." I like an upfront vocal, but the volume of the vocals in pop country is just nuts.
It’s not just because of the genre necessarily, it’s most likely because he understands the mastering stage, and how a lot of the song will “fill in” with eachother. Especially as you start to add compression and mid side processing, etc.
Any song that has a chance of radio play, Pop, Country, R&B etc will have a vocal a little louder than a typical Rock song. Although of course plenty of modern rock has very loud vocals.
Indeed, plus of course Radio compression!@@NRVE8
@@Producelikeapro mmm… is it the same as normalization from streaming services?
@@NRVE8they will turn things down, so incredibly dense, limited material gets turned down. Great mixing will give you both
Where on earth do they always find these never greens ? No production could make them even mildly interesting. By the way , audience doesn't give a duck about all these finesses
The audience isn’t our client friend. The artist, producer, and labels pay the wages of a production professional. And they do very much care about the sound of the finished product. So we need to be exceptional at what we do or be content to NOT make a living in this industry. Best wishes.
I would have to disagree that the audience wouldn't care about the vocal being balanced, level and audible above the music! I can't imagine a track where words were lost because not enough compression was applied to a vocal.
And yes, giving an artist sub standard work because 'who cares?' is not something I would suggest when building your business and reputation in this industry