The ULTIMATE bass string Shootout... tapes vs rounds vs flats

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  • @gavinvonmeyer3746
    @gavinvonmeyer3746 5 років тому +376

    I love the flatwounds. - Those lower notes hit me in the soul.

    • @mimoochodom2684
      @mimoochodom2684 5 років тому +24

      MaCartney wasn't an idiot.

    • @p_ineappl_e
      @p_ineappl_e 5 років тому +8

      They sound great I just can't choose them over rounds or tapes if I only have 1 bass because they have absolutly no "rasp" to them

    • @petethescalemodeller6130
      @petethescalemodeller6130 5 років тому +11

      @@mimoochodom2684 Neither is Steve Harris , Flats all the way bro :)

    • @bronkmonculus7338
      @bronkmonculus7338 5 років тому +5

      @@mimoochodom2684 McCartney played tapewounds on abbey road

    • @mimoochodom2684
      @mimoochodom2684 5 років тому +4

      @@bronkmonculus7338 For a minute I read it as "tapeworms." LOL . Well they all sound good if Macca's banging them.

  • @KidxVicious
    @KidxVicious 4 роки тому +166

    I'm sure that trick of kinking the end of the string does work to stop the "dead string" issue, but it's more of a band-aid fix. The real issue is that your string becomes twisted from the process of winding it onto the tuner. So you'll stop the movement of the core vs. the winding, but you'll still have a twisted string, which is not ideal.
    What I do instead of this trick is: Stick the end of the string down into the tuner, then bend and start winding it onto the post. Once I have a centimeter or so of string on the post (enough to hold it there with my left hand), I slide my right hand all the way down the string to the ball end, making sure it's straight. By the time you get to the ball end you will feel the twist being worked out of the string. Then, once you have the string untwisted, continue winding it onto the tuner like normal. No more twisted strings. I have been doing this for like 15 years and have never had a single "dead string".

    • @gabrielhughes7587
      @gabrielhughes7587 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks bro

    • @deanweld
      @deanweld 3 роки тому +3

      I also stick the end of the string into the tuner and then bend it and pull it around the tuning peg. Never once had an issue with a dead sounding string.

    • @neemyn407
      @neemyn407 3 роки тому

      Thanks bro, I'm buying a bass in a few so thia helped me a lot with the bass stringinf process

    • @Coastal_Cruzer
      @Coastal_Cruzer 3 роки тому

      I've been playing for three years and didn't know this. I'm glad I do now. Thank you so much!

    • @sergeysokuler5191
      @sergeysokuler5191 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I do that procedure every time when I change the strings. My teacher showed me this "trick" about 15 years ago. Thanks for sharing! Very useful info.

  • @SHUSHIchannel
    @SHUSHIchannel 7 років тому +124

    COMPARE
    ROUNDWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - WIDE OPEN 11:26
    FLATWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - WIDE OPEN 11:47
    TAPEWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - WIDE OPEN 12:05
    ROUNDWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - OFF 12:26
    FLATWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - OFF 12:46
    TAPEWOUNDS - TONE CONTROL - OFF 13:05

  • @rickdaddario4138
    @rickdaddario4138 4 роки тому +83

    Got a fretless not to long ago and put the tapes on it. That is a match made in heaven. They sound great and don't eat your fretboard.

    • @criticaltheist3992
      @criticaltheist3992 3 роки тому +5

      That would prob work good. I like the daddario chromes a lot more than the tapes though, more on the high end and a bit of a tighter thump on the low end from the tighter tension(but still pretty loose).
      With tapes on my pj I felt limited, like I could only ever make smooth jazz on it or something lol with roundwounds it can do anything now, has the snarl growl back.....chromes have more of that growl too

    • @keithwhyte4750
      @keithwhyte4750 3 роки тому +2

      flatwounds on fretless is da life

    • @jisakoff
      @jisakoff 2 роки тому +1

      I've tried tapewounds in the past on fretless and switched many years ago to flatwounds. I'll never go back.

    • @zakcritch8706
      @zakcritch8706 Рік тому

      @@jisakoff i did the same, tapes sound great but not enough tension in the string for me

  • @BrianPthegreatcommission
    @BrianPthegreatcommission 7 років тому +175

    Flats on the PJ
    Tape on the acoustic
    Round on the 5
    That's how I roll.

    • @patrickellis142
      @patrickellis142 5 років тому +1

      Brian P. That's the way man, I've only used flats and rounds. Never tried tapes.

    • @ronnienes
      @ronnienes 5 років тому +3

      BOLLOCKS. Never done this, but it makes sense.

    • @nathanolsonunfortunately2487
      @nathanolsonunfortunately2487 4 роки тому +1

      I do the exact same bit I have a second electric with tapes, I find tapes really nice for slap and tapping, I might have to try cobalts some time

    • @juanignaciopozzi7412
      @juanignaciopozzi7412 4 роки тому +1

      what would a 5 string pj bassist do then

    • @BrianPthegreatcommission
      @BrianPthegreatcommission 4 роки тому +1

      @@juanignaciopozzi7412 flats for the pj

  • @kunstmol
    @kunstmol 7 років тому +218

    The thing about flats is , they feel soooo nice on the fingers

    • @Hexenhammer
      @Hexenhammer 5 років тому +36

      It felt awkward at first. They take some getting used to, but then you have this moment where you are like, "holy shit, these are amazing".

    • @christophermitchell1827
      @christophermitchell1827 5 років тому +38

      Try the best of both worlds. Try groundwound strings. U start off with roundwounds by the end of the life of the strings life u got a new set of flats.

    • @lucifersmile
      @lucifersmile 4 роки тому +5

      I agree, I’ve been playing for years and wish I’d changed over earlier

    • @matsgoalkeeping2448
      @matsgoalkeeping2448 4 роки тому +9

      It depends what tone you want out of them, I go with Flats because I’m looking for more of a vintage tone.

    • @T3glider
      @T3glider 3 роки тому +8

      Scott doesn’t have that issue with the rounds because he uses the glove!

  • @barryjwz2508
    @barryjwz2508 7 років тому +79

    yoooo i'm a guitarist that recently fell in love with playing bass and i looove your channel man
    you can learn so much just sitting in your room nowadays

    • @randommusicstream9252
      @randommusicstream9252 6 років тому +1

      +1

    • @EzyoMusic
      @EzyoMusic 6 років тому +7

      What is it with guitar players falling in love with playing bass? They're everywhere and I'm one as well. :O

    • @eclogite
      @eclogite 5 років тому +8

      @@EzyoMusic they realize they've been playing a toy bass their whole lives

  • @HPNGOMUSIC
    @HPNGOMUSIC 5 років тому +60

    The flatwounds sound Woody almost. It’s like you’re getting both the sound of an upright bass on an electric

  • @PANICBLADE
    @PANICBLADE 7 років тому +136

    One of the secrets to the brighter tapewound tone is the lower tension. Wider string amplitude compensates for the smoothness of the wraps and when it rattles against the fret, it puts back some of that rasp and growl. The flatwounds, being totally metal, have higher tension than roundwounds, so they vibrate more firmly, leading to a smoother and more consistent tone. A lot of people think tapewounds are darker by default due to the outer wrap muting the string a bit, but that's not necessarily true. If you peel off the tape around the string, you will find a small roundwound string in there, which, since it is metal, the pickups will "pick up" on rather than sensing the vibration of the flat outer ribbon of the flatwounds, rounding some of the treble out.

    • @Danielbignuts
      @Danielbignuts 7 років тому +8

      PANICBLADE That was highly informative, thanks!

    • @georgefelton5433
      @georgefelton5433 7 років тому +2

      love how you put that!

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 7 років тому +5

      PANICBLADE Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I had also been told tapewounds were even "darker" than flats.
      I suppose hypothetically a tapewound string could also be flatwound or groundwound on the inside. Tapewounds seem pretty niche though so there might not be a lot of variety.

    • @laspijker
      @laspijker 5 років тому +3

      Note, lower tension means also new setup for your bass

    • @SwirlOfColors
      @SwirlOfColors 5 років тому +3

      For reference - here's the total set tension - according to D'Addario:
      50-105 tapewound (66.290 kg), which are comparable to
      40-95 round wound steel (62.060 kg), where flatwounds have
      40-95 flatwounds chrome (73.990 kg), and
      50-105 flatwounds chrome (101.610 kg)
      www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=186&productname=ETB92_Tapewound_Bass__Medium__50_105__Long_Scale
      www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=139&productname=EPS180_ProSteels_Bass__Extra_Super_Light__35_95__Long_Scale
      www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=205&productname=ECB82_Chromes_Bass__Medium__50_105__Long_Scale

  • @rypt.7574
    @rypt.7574 5 років тому +254

    9:36 *Strokes back non-existent hair*

    • @Bc99-whyz
      @Bc99-whyz 5 років тому +4

      0:26 he takes off the hat and is like "well first of all........because I don't ...." *fook*
      he just cuts the camera off lol (nothing but love tho

    • @alexkna8808
      @alexkna8808 5 років тому +1

      or it was a lil itchy or he thought he may be sweatin

    • @mrbobmarley2222
      @mrbobmarley2222 4 роки тому +2

      i was watching iron man earlier today and it really confused me when a bald jeff bridges did exactly that

    • @dr.riccardo3575
      @dr.riccardo3575 4 роки тому +4

      Gotta wipe the dust off

    • @goooseboi
      @goooseboi 3 роки тому

      13:50 +

  • @BassCommunion
    @BassCommunion 7 років тому +625

    Skip to 4:00 because it's one of those days..

    • @jakebuckelew1923
      @jakebuckelew1923 7 років тому +19

      Thought it was going to play one of these days by Pink Floyd

    • @Lioanimals1977
      @Lioanimals1977 6 років тому +1

      +Jake Buckelew Waaaaaa me too!! :c

    • @ChrisBaccus
      @ChrisBaccus 6 років тому +5

      You are doing god's work. Thank you.

    • @redbarchettta
      @redbarchettta 6 років тому +2

      Thanks

    • @jasonbafile
      @jasonbafile 6 років тому +1

      Bass Communion ♥️

  • @charlesgreaves3293
    @charlesgreaves3293 5 років тому +18

    I play flat wounds on a fret-less, and love that upright bass sound, but you are committed to that one sound. I did think the tape wound strings hit a nice straddle between sounds.
    Just ordered a Sire 4 string, and I think I will give some real thought to tape wounds after listening to this.
    Great video.

  • @dangracia7805
    @dangracia7805 4 роки тому +3

    I have to tell you Scott, I only used round wounds on the '82 Jazz I bought in 1985 until I saw this video. I had used flats on my '65 Jazz that I bought in '66 because pretty much all bass strings were flat wound back then. I moved to Fender's Tape Wound strings in early 70's and that's what was on it when it was stolen in '76. In 1985 I found another Jazz with the same neck profile and it had rounds on it. I had only used rounds on it until you came out with this video in 2017. I had moved from Blue Steel rounds to DR Black Beauty's and had worn off a lot of the coating on top. So it was time to replace them.
    After watching your bass string shoot out, I decided to give LaBella Tapewound flats a try. I got them in white instead of black to match my white Jazz bass. They are the BEST strings! They still have a lot of the brightness of the rounds I'd used but had much better balanced sound from string to string. The D and G strings never sound weak or thin. They are also easier on the fingers and I get very little string or fret noise. I REALLY like my tape-wounds, and it's all your fault. Thanks for doing this!

  • @bigbass421
    @bigbass421 2 роки тому +13

    As usual, a fun and interesting video! I began playing in 1967. I used LaBella Blue silk flats, in individual pink packages. That was all we had in the home of Ampeg at one time- Woodside Queens, N.Y.., in the local music shop. E.and O. Mari, who owned the LaBella String Company, were in the next neighborhood over, where I was born... Astoria, Queens, N.Y. City. Since then, and discovering Rotodounds in 1969, I've played everything you can imagine. I used nickel rounds for a very long time, then stainless D'Addario.. and now, at 70 years of age, and 23 basses in my collection, more than half are strung with flats. Mostly Fender 9050ML, some Chromes, and some Rotosound light RS77's. None are black nylon tapewounds. I have not tried them since about 1970. I don't recall liking them all that much. Seems like they might be made better, as most strings seem to be nowadays.
    Rounds are just great, for full, ringing sustain, and a nice singing tone in the upper registers.
    Flats have that big, unmistakable front end attack, and quicker decay. The fundamentals seem to punch out better in a band setting. Remember- before about 1968 or so, EVERY electric bass you heard on recordings had flat wound strings on it.
    To me, there really isn't anything that compares to a hollow body bass with flats- played in what I like to call the "British Invasion" part of the neck.. the big bloom of those shortened strings and quick decay, are so powerful... All the strings you tested, sounded great. It really boils down to preference.

  • @BadvisionStudios
    @BadvisionStudios 3 роки тому +8

    I like the giddy joy in your discovery of the tapewounds... Great tone!

  • @deanchyla6812
    @deanchyla6812 6 років тому +14

    Scott, you may feel most at home on the rounds, but I love, love, love the tone with the tapewound.

  • @robertluking6223
    @robertluking6223 7 років тому +17

    Those tapewounds rock. Really really rock. Has that low growl on the E string the rounds lack, and still clear up high.

    • @amoblahblah
      @amoblahblah 6 років тому +1

      Great tone and a great feel - I love playing them.

  • @GuitarUnderground
    @GuitarUnderground Рік тому +1

    In my experience it basically boils down to:
    * Rounds are bright, they bring out top-end at the expensive of some lower mids and sub frequencies. They have more growl, but also bring out more finger noise and they can be abrasive on the fingers. They work well for aggressive styles of music like funk and metal where the finger noise is a part of the style.
    * Flats are dark, they bring out sub frequencies and have a strong fundamental, but lack some top end punch. They sound very old school, are dead quiet, have a percussive tone that is great in a mix. However, they aren’t going to get you noticed as much as a soloist. They work well for Classic Rock, Reggae, Pop, and Soul.
    * Tapes are the in-betweener, they have a strong fundamental with rich lower mids that really sing. Less sub frequencies than flats and less top-end growl than rounds. They’re quiet and easy to play like flats, but require a little more left hand muting. They work well for a variety of styles, but fit nicely with Jazz and soloist work due to their unique character and really shine on a fretless.
    * Honorable mention - Flat wound Cobalt strings are a great all-arounder that encompass the strengths of all of these sets, but don’t lean as much into one direction. They feel like flats, but sound more like rounds. Less finger noise than rounds, but not as quiet as flats. More top-end growl than flats, not as much sub as flats. More upper mid than tapes and less lower mid. A great general option for a variety of styles from soft rock to metal, but I think they really shine for Funk, Indie rock, and Power pop.

  • @andystaff1
    @andystaff1 7 років тому +11

    I loooove tape wounds. Been playing them for years! I really feel like you have more tonal control when you use the tone knob. They can sound like rounds and they can sound like flats. You're absolutely right about the tension, makes for some great vibrato.

  • @kriskollmar9728
    @kriskollmar9728 2 роки тому +2

    Tape wound absolutely brought my fretless jazz bass to life plus saved my neck, literally. Best of both worlds for fretless.

  • @adamphillips9737
    @adamphillips9737 7 років тому +6

    I use flats on all my basses which are all fretless. But in the comparison you did Scott, the tape wounds sounded like I need to try them on one of my brighter basses. They had a nice hybrid thing going on, way warmer than a round and way brighter than a flat, nice middle ground.

  • @paulneeds
    @paulneeds 4 роки тому +19

    THAT.
    Was very interesting..
    I’ve always used rounds - I’m 60 btw. My *impression* has always been that tape wounds were like flats, but without any ‘catchy bits’ where the flat winding butts up against itself - and mainly suitable for jazz and orchestral gigs, where basically the bassman is replacing a plucked upright bass sort of sound.
    Your video has really made me think again.. there’s much more top there than I expected - very much more.
    I may even be tempted to give them a try - like you, Scott, I have neuro issues with my hands - following a neck accident though. My hands, particularly the *insides* and fingers/fingertips are extremely hypersensitive and can be excruciatingly painful.
    Meds help, but I do find rounds feel sort of abrasive - particularly on bass strings, even moreso than on 6/12 strings.
    It’s been a massive issue, as you can imagine I’m sure. The occupational therapists were incredible when I was in hospital - they ordered all kinds of stuff in for me to see if it would help, including right-fitting ‘support’ gloves that look similar to those you use.
    But of course, I left hospital and that degree of help and support went with it. But, I found a thing called a Pykmax which helped massively with helping me hold onto picks for both guitar and bass.
    As for finger style... when I was much younger I used to emulate John Entwistle’s style - he played with both fingers and picks. But following the accident, and not playing a lot of bass until I recently started putting a new one together (a J bass), I could not get back into regular finger picking at all, and I just put it down to the nerve damage in my neck inhibiting and slowing my fingers, as it has for my left hand to a lesser extent.
    But I suddenly remember led while setting this bass up that I’d never played right hand with 1st and 2nd - it was always 1st and *3rd*! - a remnant of my hand position playing my old custom built Explorer bass! 1st and 3rd fingers are a pretty similar length, whereas the 2nd is longer! With the hand at a right angle to the strings, I just found it easier, and just using finger 2 when moving up or down a string..
    Any way - thanks.. may we’ll try tapes to see if they feel less abrasive to both hands, while still giving me a basic tone that can always be frigged on the amp.

  • @michaelhiltz7846
    @michaelhiltz7846 7 років тому +71

    I really love flat wound strings, they just have a lovely feel, my fingers don't get worn out as fast on flat wound strings, also I find that you have to change round wound strings more often because dirt builds up in between the ridges on the surface of the string. Also the tone on flat rounds I find has more bass to it than the round wound, with out the bass sounding over done. I have never tried the tape wound I might try them in the future. But for now I love the flat wound strings.

    • @MaxFriscomål06
      @MaxFriscomål06 4 роки тому

      Well, you don’t have to change round wounds because of dirt on the strings, you can auctualy boil your old round wound strings to get all that dirt of then.

    • @yeoldefoxeh254
      @yeoldefoxeh254 4 роки тому +5

      @@MaxFriscomål06 which doesn't work 100% and only gives back about 50% of the original tone. Then about 2 weeks and it's gone again.

    • @warrenosborne1539
      @warrenosborne1539 4 роки тому

      Boil the strings for about an hour and dry right away,, bings back the clank.

    • @estebanjacobs5794
      @estebanjacobs5794 4 роки тому +3

      Products like fast fret by ghs or just running a wipe over your strings after you play, can give you a shit ton of life span for strings

    • @michaelhiltz7846
      @michaelhiltz7846 4 роки тому +2

      @@estebanjacobs5794 Yeah, if you do that with round wound strings they can last a long time but if you do those thing with flat wound strings they last even longer. I love the sound of Flat wound string Round wound string are way to bright for my taste.

  • @johnstewart4885
    @johnstewart4885 6 років тому

    I'm a new bassist. Old school. I bought a '66 Gibson EB-3. I put new round wounds on her. Really like the sound. The feel was a little stiff, but I liked the vintage 60's sound. I had to put her in the shop for a neck repair. In the meantime I bought an Epiphone Allen Woody. It came with D'Addario tapewounds (ETB92S, S is for short scale basses). Oh my! I love the deep throated rumble sound. And I love the feel. As a beginning bassist, the smoothness of the strings let's my fingers glide over the fretboard. I picked up speed and confidence immediately. It may be sacrilege to put anything but rounds on a (Jack Bruce) Gibson EB-3. But these tapewounds are just so easy to play. I'm ordering a set for her.

  • @ctrlaltbass6990
    @ctrlaltbass6990 7 років тому +129

    for some reason different types of paint are coming to mind... as though roundwounds are gloss, flatwounds are matt and tapewounds are silk... somewhere between the two... if that makes sense??

    • @Grumdot
      @Grumdot 7 років тому +4

      Oliver Tanner it makes a lot of sense to me.

    • @headphones0n
      @headphones0n 7 років тому +1

      exactly

    • @jakeh5175
      @jakeh5175 7 років тому +5

      Oliver Tanner silk ain't paint but I feel you

    • @ctrlaltbass6990
      @ctrlaltbass6990 7 років тому +3

      Jake Hayes aha... very true... i think 'satin' was the word i was after!

    • @asblittle
      @asblittle 7 років тому +2

      Jake Hayes
      Dulux does a silk range... www.dulux.co.uk/en/products/silk

  • @TheMinnickFamily
    @TheMinnickFamily 7 років тому +1

    Scott!
    Thanks for adding in that short video... I really NEEDED that today... I just got home from my sixth spinal surgery in 15 months... I needed to hear that logic of finding the motivation to keep on with what I need to do so that I can get back into normal life. I’m just now learning to play bass, while also learning 6-string guitar. Your videos are surely going to make all this easier and much more fun!
    Thank you for all you do!
    -Dave in Texas, USA

  • @DannySapko
    @DannySapko 7 років тому +75

    I love the direction you're taking your channel Scott - these last few videos have been fantastic! I find that flatwounds get better with age. Play them in for a month and you might grow to like them!

    • @larrycjones6765
      @larrycjones6765 7 років тому +1

      Flats on my P's and '74 Jazz and rounds on the other Hand Basses and my Thumb 5.

  • @jeffgutierrez8796
    @jeffgutierrez8796 6 років тому

    Exactly, what you said at the end of the first shot. It comes down to which ones you can get YOUR SOUND OUT OF... I use old flatwounds on a fretless, I'm home on flats.

  • @markfeathers
    @markfeathers 5 років тому +91

    I know what you said BUT... you look like you enjoyed playing the tape wounds more.

    • @clickrick
      @clickrick 3 роки тому +7

      Spoken language vs body language. You're right.

  • @tshohankie
    @tshohankie 4 роки тому +30

    Rounds produce a lot of high harmonics that make it hard for me to hear the basic tone (I'm 63). Also flats invoke that "wrecking crew" sound that Carol Kaye made famous.

  • @JJVonGuckin
    @JJVonGuckin 7 років тому +86

    I love flatwounds more than any other strings on earth

  • @jeffbarnett4755
    @jeffbarnett4755 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the demo. I really like the tapewound sound for that acoustic bass type sound. I'm just beginning to play bass, but I really love the sounds you get and your playing style. I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos.JB

  • @classicalteacher
    @classicalteacher 7 років тому +246

    You're getting the tone like a jazz player with the flat wounds, but you're playing way too funky. Those flat wounds just can't give that funk-bark you crave and expect.
    I would have liked to hear you play at least three different styles with each of the strings: something like Rock, Jazz and Funk to start with. That way we can really hear what those strings excel at.
    Also, the Chromes are OK, not the best tone for flat-wounds, but passable for jazz. Those La Bella's were a total surprise! I like how you play with them!

    • @lb5081
      @lb5081 6 років тому +6

      Yeah, you're absolutely right. I LOVE the flats. They're really jazzy. But for a funkier sound, you gotta go with the rounds. You're not gonna get the sound you want trying to play funky on the flats.

    • @cruz.c
      @cruz.c 6 років тому +2

      ikr it bothered me so much that he didnt know flatwounds arent for his fast funk lines and shit

    • @johnmunson100
      @johnmunson100 6 років тому +14

      @@cruz.c It's not that he didn't know that. It's that he wanted to play the same line on all three types for comparison. The real point is what the original poster said -- it would have been cool if he had played a couple or three different styles on each set. But you can still get a feel for the differences even though he played only the one line.

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 6 років тому

      What do you recommend for flats then, if not Chromes?

    • @facedowngaming
      @facedowngaming 6 років тому +2

      Josh Starkey GHS Flats, La Bella Flats, etc. just stay away from D’Addario Chromes if you don’t like it.

  • @miquelangelbujosaferrer2733
    @miquelangelbujosaferrer2733 6 років тому +1

    you actually made me want to buy a pack White Nylon La Bella Tapewound strings and put them on my p bass and man.... whooouuu!!! I LOVE IT!!! the sound, the tension, the playability and the possibility to make fast runs on the bass thanks to the fact that the strings have a different tension is just amazing!!!!!! THanks for the video!

    • @xsanez_
      @xsanez_ Рік тому

      What guage strings did you get? The most common one I see is 115, which is actually medium tension. 105 tapes are considered light

  • @reallivebluescat
    @reallivebluescat 6 років тому +8

    13:17 that was SWEET!!

  • @yojon1212
    @yojon1212 2 роки тому +1

    OMG Scott! I got a set of tape wounds on my first bass 1970's Fender Music Master Bass 35 years ago and liked them but I was just a kid and only knew what I liked to hear. I only tried them once. Then lately, I have a bass that sounds amazing with flatwounds. I'm definitely going to try the tapewounds again thanks to your video.

  • @Sandman-ne1gz
    @Sandman-ne1gz 5 років тому +44

    If I was gonna purchase strings based purely on your facial expressions then tape wounds! 👍🏻😂🎸👌🏻

    • @hollowify_tensa_zangetsu
      @hollowify_tensa_zangetsu Рік тому +1

      I bought tape wounds.......and was SHOCKED I loved em. Flat wounds are good for like a jazz/fretless
      Nickel is the best for any and all types

  • @dangracia7805
    @dangracia7805 4 роки тому

    Not long after you brought this video out, I bought a set of LaBella White Tape Wound strings. Although I started with flats in 1965, I'd played only round would strings for the last 32-33 years. My DR Black Beauty strings were nice but I'd worn off a lot of the coating and they were kind of mottled looking and no longer "Beauty's". Plus I had bright shiny marks on the back of all the strings where they contacted the frets.
    I was also amazed with these strings. Come to find out the White ones are the brightest of the tape wounds they offer and the sound is really well balanced across them. D and G strings are neither thin nor tinny sounding so I can play pattern on them low on the neck instead of moving up high on the neck on the previous string to get a fuller sound. I had also forgotten how easy it was to play flats versus round wounds. They still sound great on their third year of use, but when and if they die I will replace them with the same LaBella Deep Talking Bass White Round Wound strings. They are just GREAT strings.

  • @cray-zykrillin8868
    @cray-zykrillin8868 6 років тому +20

    I’m choosing tape wound, never used them, always had round wound but I love the tone when he is playing

  • @painter1955
    @painter1955 7 років тому +1

    I have roundwound on my Fender jazz, but flatwound on my fretless Warwick. The jazz bass 'needs' that growly roundwound sound for rock, whereas the fretless 'needs' that oily wah-wah sound for blues. I think the choice of strings depends on not only the bass, but also on the style of play intended. I like (love) the fretless sound, so sonic preference must be considered when choosing strings. Since I couldn't decide on just one sound, I set up two basses to cover the widely different types of music I like to play. The various sounds keep me from getting bored with just one thing. Another reason that I put flats on the fretless was to save the fingerboard from getting chewed up by the abrasive rounds that came on it, which I considered a gross oversight by whoever put them on it to start with.

  • @arnaud78
    @arnaud78 5 років тому +3

    That tip about bending the end of the string before you snip it off was definitely the string changing tip of the century. 👍🏻 I think that may be exactly how I ruined my E string with the last change (by not bending it first).

  • @JuanESalas
    @JuanESalas 7 років тому +1

    I have always played my Yamaha bass with tapes. I simply love the smooth sound and easy/comfortable playing. It also gives you some diversity other sthings do not get. Great video!

  • @j.sparrow3265
    @j.sparrow3265 7 років тому +70

    Watch out for tapewounds, because they're insulated by the nylon you don't get any grounding effect from touching the strings. They'll only work in hum cancelling and/or noise free environments.

    • @jessd1952
      @jessd1952 7 років тому +10

      J. Sparrow That's really good to know for my noisy j bass.

    • @pollyshero
      @pollyshero 6 років тому +51

      A little late with a response but that's really not a problem. Solder alligator clips to each end of a 3' length of 22AWG wire. Clip one end to an adjustment screw at the bridge, run the other end up under your shirt and clip to your nipple. Problem solved!

    • @MarvinForte
      @MarvinForte 6 років тому +6

      You joke but I had a noisy bass and I had to ground it to myself when recording all the time LOL

    • @pollyshero
      @pollyshero 6 років тому +8

      Yes - I think I'm funny... I've suffered with noisy instruments as well and had to solve the problem in a pinch with some creative methods (anti-stat strap on my wrist, lead clipped to the bridge). But a humming bass means something is wrong and needs attention. Creative measures can be risky. The only CORRECT way to eliminate the buzz and keep yourself safe is to ensure your guitar's electronics are properly grounded/shielded and your amp is properly grounded. Yes - even with tapewound strings. Keep in mind that "instrument/amp properly grounded" can involve a whole lot more than just the instrument and the amp. Cables, power cords, power sources, ground loops, RF interference... I could write a book. Many folks much smarter than I am already have - Google. Read. Enjoy the rumble without the extra noise :) Peace be with you.

    • @flash001USA
      @flash001USA 6 років тому +1

      Good observation. I never thought about that.

  • @ACKEBRACKE
    @ACKEBRACKE 5 років тому +2

    Man this video made my day! Having one of those days and this really lifted my spirits! Put on some coffee, played around some on the bass (definitely getting flat wounds!) and then of to the laptop for schoolwork. Cheers mate!

  • @Paulosrecordsofficial
    @Paulosrecordsofficial 6 років тому +6

    I spent years playing roundwounds thinking they were the ones for me. Tried Thomastik Jazz Flats and hated them at first, but after a few months grew to love them. Now roundwounds feel strange to me and I flat out love flats most of the time. I must try out tapewounds at some point too. Great video Scott. Loving your woirk.

  • @eric3532
    @eric3532 4 роки тому +1

    I just put a set of the tapes (based on your review and recommendation) on my 1974 Rickenbacker 4001. It almost plays itself. I ordered another set for my P-Bass. Can’t wait to try it!

  • @funkyhighcat5446
    @funkyhighcat5446 7 років тому +176

    Flats on a p bass with foam mute are the sweetest thing ever

    • @PANICBLADE
      @PANICBLADE 7 років тому +16

      FunkyHighCat It's like someone covered butter in wd40 innit?

    • @feedthechunk9836
      @feedthechunk9836 7 років тому +5

      Flats for me! I think the sound is smoother overall than rounds.

    • @DanBrill
      @DanBrill 7 років тому +7

      You get a sweet James Jamerson sound out of that set up. Love that.

    • @johnsaul3021
      @johnsaul3021 7 років тому +11

      if you play flats, try LaBella's. They seem to jump out more than others. More "colorful" than other flats. As well, try the tone set up brightly with the flats and play with a plectrum. Interesting.

    • @DonovanFite
      @DonovanFite 7 років тому

      FunkyHighCat amen.

  • @powaytheband
    @powaytheband 6 років тому +1

    I have been using Teflon (tape wound) strings on my bass for 20 years. The first set lasted me almost a decade. We recorded the bass when the strings were new then again before I changed them. Literally there was almost zero difference in tone, after 10 years. I believe it is because they do not corrode or oxidize due to the coating

  • @Gh0stClown
    @Gh0stClown 7 років тому +23

    I'm a flats fan because I'm mainly an upright player so it's what I'm used to.

    • @hanzsantos
      @hanzsantos 7 років тому

      Ghost Clown that's exactly why I prefer flats; I love the sound of double bass strings:D

    • @brennanc4321
      @brennanc4321 7 років тому +1

      Ghost Clown I feel that's the main reason anyone uses them haha. Use those on my jazz bass, with a mute.

    • @roninhernandez1397
      @roninhernandez1397 7 років тому +1

      Believe it or not, for me, I prefer the tapewounds, just for that reason, but they are expensive as hell.

    • @jacobb7379
      @jacobb7379 6 років тому

      Same

    • @Taterwheel
      @Taterwheel 2 роки тому

      That is a real cool sound, a lot of film scores with an urban feel during the 70s had a jazz tinge, and that sound holds it down great. Jameson and Carol Kaye used P bases with flats and mutes, and between them they played on more records than any other electric bassists from that era. I bought a contemporary P bass just to get this sound. Haven't tried the mute yet.

  • @benavich8
    @benavich8 3 роки тому +1

    I find it amazing that a vast majority of responses are for the tapes or flats. Tried those, I'm sticking with the rounds, but that's just me. Love the punch you get from them.

  • @GarrisonDigital
    @GarrisonDigital 7 років тому +122

    I put tapewounds on my fretless bass. Oo la la!

    • @dimhelmet
      @dimhelmet 7 років тому +14

      I've got DR tapewounds on my fretless, and they are the greatest!

    • @DarkVideos1029
      @DarkVideos1029 7 років тому +10

      GarrisonDigital i think tapewounds + fretless is the ultimate combo

    • @JKryanX
      @JKryanX 7 років тому +2

      i play fretless but hate flats so i've been playing rounds (coated board) but ive been curious about tapes, do you get more sustain from the tapes than the flats??

    • @dimhelmet
      @dimhelmet 7 років тому +5

      Jukebox I do, and they're a bit brighter too.

    • @GarrisonDigital
      @GarrisonDigital 7 років тому +5

      You should try taped. I have a standing gig in a big jazz band and they help me get almost a upright sound. They are fun to play and very smooth. I have p-bass with metal flats and a jazz bass with rounds for my other contemporary gigs. Each tool does something different. BTW my basses are not expensive pro series. That's why I can afford three bases. It's all in the hands.

  • @markblackstad8705
    @markblackstad8705 5 років тому +2

    I have always been a round wound guy too but I think the tapes sounded best to me in your video. Great, now this will cost me some $$ to test for myself! If course, as everyone else is commenting, depends on what bass, style of music, how many and what type of other instruments are playing, how tough it is to cut through the.mix in your group etc....

  • @MissPandasia
    @MissPandasia 7 років тому +27

    definitely roundwounds, just by listening the flatwounds sounded too muddy for me... but the tapewounds is something I would like to try 🤔

    • @soñadorado
      @soñadorado 7 років тому +1

      A lot of people here seem to be really enthusiastic about that bassist-in-the-room-next-door sound coming out of the flats... I like the color of the other two m'self.

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields 6 років тому +6

      Colin DuPée If you're playing in a room by yourself, sure, but if you're playing with a band, rounds always tend to fight with the frequencies of the other instruments (unless they're a particularly old set of strings) - and turning the tone down always just sounds like hamfistedly bludgeoning a large chunk of the high end. What people tend not to realize is that when an instrument isn't competing for frequencies, it's much easier to hear, and can be turned up without fear of overpowering the other instruments.
      I think we've almost entirely lost sight of the electric bass's place in a band setting, over the last few decades, and have been seeing it more as a front and center solo instrument, rather than a team player.

  • @sansocie
    @sansocie 5 років тому

    Each bass I have has a different type of string. One bass is great with tape but blows with round and flats. Great to have so many toys! Thanks Scott!

  • @day4band397
    @day4band397 7 років тому +9

    Flats on a P
    Rounds on J
    Love these new style videos Scott!

    • @mouthmw
      @mouthmw 7 років тому

      that's exactly my philosophy

    • @fernandom.5873
      @fernandom.5873 6 років тому +1

      Can I get the best of both worlds with flats on a J?

    • @dogetge7544
      @dogetge7544 6 років тому

      So tape for bass with P and J?

    • @golfboy83
      @golfboy83 5 років тому

      Tapes on a jazz bass sound amazing!

  • @felipesolari5343
    @felipesolari5343 3 роки тому

    I put tapewounds on my acoustic bass and, finally, no more noises and horrible tension on the neck. I was ready to sell it. Now I love it.

  • @Bi_scotti_5
    @Bi_scotti_5 3 роки тому +5

    String pros and cons (cons first)
    - Roundwounds are really noisy which can be really annoying for recording, but they're a pretty versatile string. Love that bite, great for pick playing and perfect for rock and funk. Every bass player should at least start with rounds so they'll get the calluses on their fingertips. Decent with tone all around from 0-100%. Fundamental bass sound, can't go wrong with em. Sound pretty interesting when they get old; I usually try to beat the crap out of them when I get a new set; it's a desperate attempt to wear them down for that warm and dull tone.
    - Flatwounds don't sound that great with the tone rolled down, in my opinion. They definitely sound completely different from rounds; it's easy to see why there's a debate between the 2. Love that thump at the low end, as well as the smooth tones at the higher end. Great for if you like to slide around, want a vintage sound, or if you're a recording artist that doesn't like that "woosh" sound. Also perfect for any jazz musicians out there, even on a fretless.
    - Tapewounds are gauged strangely because of the nylon coating so they bend pretty easily. The slippery feel can take sound getting used to. HOWEVER, I think they're the best of both worlds. That bite from the rounds, the thump from the flats, yet not as metallic of a sound. These things are very comfortable to play; great for people who might get sore from playing a lot. They're really underrated, especially on fretless.

    • @andyokus5735
      @andyokus5735 Рік тому

      Thanks for mentioning me bend. Now I'm sold.

  • @micktomazou
    @micktomazou 3 роки тому +2

    I'm using Tapewounds on all three of my 5ers - Yamaha, Lakland and Ray SUB - mind blowing tones.
    I'm using Status, Rotosound and Warwicks and all of them sound amazing. I'd recommend all of them.

  • @mattromeril5702
    @mattromeril5702 7 років тому +37

    Flats all day long on a P Bass :) I don't think the audio in this vid does any of the strings justice to be honest.

    • @excismos8056
      @excismos8056 7 років тому +4

      Not enough long notes and "typical" playing styles for the strings.

    • @Taterwheel
      @Taterwheel 2 роки тому

      @the Movie DJ Funny thing about taste, Chris Squire, both his playing and his sound, was the reason I became serious about playing bass so many years ago, his sound is still incredible to me. I've had a few Rickenbackers, always with round wounds and always played 'em with a pick..
      Back in the late 90s I started playing different genres and switched to my old Jazz bass, also with rounds, as that sound was more fitting. Jaco was a big influence at that time, not that I was within a light year of his playing, and that became my main bass. I love the focused low end from Jazz basses with rounds, I just can't get that from P basses, they're rather open and round.
      I do prefer when the rounds are a little bit dead on the Jazz, it sort of evens out the issues some players describe here. I would say the main reason I don't have issues with string squeaks and too much fret clank with rounds though is developing my technique to clean that out of the sound. Studio environments help a lot to let you know where you are, especially when you playback with your bass track solo'd. Once I realized my playing needed more control and started paying attention to those details, it didn't take long until my solo'd tracks were cleaner than a lot of solos'd bass tracks I heard from major releases. Almost every engineer or producer, whether they say it or not, wants you to/wishes you would play a P bass with flats, so if you're loving a Jazz bass with rounds, you'll need that cleaner technique or will get a lot of flack. That said, I still love to pull out the Rick, grab a pick and dig in on Close to the Edge man. RIP Chris, my sensi!

  • @gregkek7660
    @gregkek7660 7 років тому

    I'm a metal player so Dunlop super brights are my go to strings forever and always, gives me that "bouncy" brightness that stands out in the mix

  • @revelationequation4518
    @revelationequation4518 3 роки тому +3

    I started playing bass last month... I got round because the sound is recommended for ppl like me. they are very good for teaching my fingers how to be strong. I love them, but you just convinced me to try the tape wound. it sounded amazing. when I get them i will find out if it was the strings or the player that are good

  • @raletky
    @raletky 4 місяці тому +1

    The reason tapes sound a bit brighter and have lower tension than most flats is because the tape material is wrapped around an inner core with windings like a round wound string. I've been using the Fender 9120 Nylon Tapewound strings on my Jazz fretless for about 15 years now.

  • @quietfiyah8182
    @quietfiyah8182 7 років тому +5

    The tape wound sound is unique & impressive

  • @jamessadler3623
    @jamessadler3623 4 роки тому

    Hi Scott. I truly enjoy your tutorials. They are very informative. The one I am watching now Aug.20th, 2020 you demoed the various string options a bassist has. From my own experience as an Upright Double Bassist. I prefer the Flat wound strings on all my electric bass guitars. for that deep mellow tone.. When purchasing a new bass, I automatically change 3 things. #1 is the bass bridge. I usually use a Shaller Roller bridge #2 the pickups. are replaced with Seymour Dundan Quarter Pounders. and #3 the Strings, I always install Flat Wounds usually Roto Sounds, some Tape Wounds on the shorter scale basses, like the Gibson EB-3 and the Danelectro 58 re-issue longhorn bass. All 3 of these 3 mods provide me with that low mellow sound I get from my Upright Double bass. I own 12 bass guitars and I don;t regret any of the mods I have done to obtain the desired tone and feel I am looking for.

  • @Cankalay
    @Cankalay 7 років тому +61

    What about groundwounds or halfrounds? That is the one i really wanna know about. There are literally no videos about that one.

    • @ChurchOfTheHolyMho
      @ChurchOfTheHolyMho 7 років тому +4

      Ditto. I used to use pressurewound on my fretless when I played. Would love to hear others in the A/B comparison as well.

    • @gcjamesaudio
      @gcjamesaudio 7 років тому +4

      1/2 rounds always felt weird to me. The texture of the string is too "grimmy" for lack of better descriptor. They can be a pretty cool in between sound for sure though.

    • @markcaldwell6696
      @markcaldwell6696 7 років тому +2

      I agree with Gary that halfrounds are a nice in between. I currently run rounds on one bass and flats on another, but if I could only have one bass, I'd use halfrounds on it. These strings can be very universal. They can growl a little and can be warm. You might say that they fill a hybrid role. Just like pretty much everything else, you need to try them to see how they fit into your style.

    • @A1QAGuy
      @A1QAGuy 7 років тому +2

      I just restrung my P bass with D'Addario XL ENR72 medium gauge half rounds and I love the sound! I previously used rounds exclusively, but think I'll stick with the half rounds. The new strings were much brighter than my old rounds, (which were way overdue to be replaced), but the half rounds overall had a mellower/warmer tone, with almost no finger noise.

    • @Cankalay
      @Cankalay 7 років тому +1

      Thank you all for the answers, yeah i think im gonna get a pair and try them on

  • @georgecovetskie6717
    @georgecovetskie6717 2 роки тому +1

    Those tape wounds have that clean yet bold sound of a good upright. Somewhat woody sound and fun to listen to. Something you would hear on a well recorded Jazz record or even Blues. Thanks for doing this video. I appreciate when people play clean. It lets you hear what's going on. I always wondered why some people exabit dirty bass to portray the sound. Start clean.

  • @SkyOnosson
    @SkyOnosson 7 років тому +5

    Discovered tapes about 5-6 years ago, have them on 3 of my 4 basses now, included a fretless. They are definitely my go-to string for all situations. Super comfortable and a big range of tones.

    • @alecmullaney7957
      @alecmullaney7957 2 роки тому

      The comfort is my biggest reason for playing tapes. I'm a keyboard jockey for 40hrs a week, and the lower tension and 'softer' texture are a lot easier after a long day of work

  • @stitchmywoundz17
    @stitchmywoundz17 5 місяців тому

    Thankyou so much!! Esp for the string change bit n the video. I needed both. N both were great extra bits of content. ❤

  • @skooterbrah
    @skooterbrah 4 роки тому +5

    I prefer the percussive thump of the flat wound strings. The lack of high end harmonics does not bother me in the least. Tape wounds are my second favorite. I just don't like the jangly rasp of round wounds. That being said, I do use all three, depending on the situation.

  • @X-35173
    @X-35173 3 роки тому

    I came here to hear the difference between flats and rounds but I gotta say I LOVE that bass. It's so beautiful!

  • @jjcox333
    @jjcox333 7 років тому +59

    Flatwounds on a p-bass sing-out. Roundwounds on a p-bass twang-out.
    I'll take the singing notes every time!

    • @jgraz42
      @jgraz42 5 років тому

      Fuckin A

    • @michaelbell75
      @michaelbell75 5 років тому +2

      Flats sound like farts. Rounds are king.

    • @nishot2639
      @nishot2639 5 років тому +6

      @@michaelbell75 Depends on the brand of flats you buy most of them are shit a few are clearly superior to most roundwounds

    • @toxictophat711
      @toxictophat711 4 роки тому

      Gotta agree i bought a 5 string with 4 flat wounds on it love it but tape wound has Enlightened me i might try them next and go with active electrics

    • @donnamallozzi-corner3210
      @donnamallozzi-corner3210 4 роки тому +1

      Rounds with a pick, heavy attack and a heap of overdrive. Can't beat it

  • @johnisenhart4243
    @johnisenhart4243 6 років тому

    I've been using LaBella Deep Talkin Tapewounds for 15 years on several electrics and my precious Tacoma CB10F and they are game changers for expressive playing. On the Tacoma (fretless) people listen to recordings and say "Wow, that's a beautiful upright you're playing" They are awesome, all I've used for many years.

  • @Baelthaazar
    @Baelthaazar 7 років тому +6

    Personally, I liked the tone of the tape wounds on that bass, amp and cabinet with the style you are playing.
    For me, it depends on the bass and the type of music I tend to use the bass for. I have Rotosound rounds on my Rick and Jazz, round wound boomers on the Precision, but flats on my Tacoma Thunderchief. I had tapes on my home made fretless, but went back to Roto's because I found them too muddy.
    For me, it's always been a question of how bright a bass is. Flats tend to take
    the edge off and give a more James Jamison sound on most standard
    basses, but perfect tone wise on the acoustic Tacoma as they take the brittleness off.
    Also, there's huge differences between different manufacturers. Not all round wounds sound the same. Same goes for tape and flats. Finding the right string type from the right manufacturer for a specific instrument, can be expensive and time consuming, but it pays off in the end. They all behave differently and have different sounds that require different things to bring out the best that your rig can give you.
    As always, your mileage may vary.

  • @CazClocker52
    @CazClocker52 7 років тому +2

    I noticed that you liked the flats the least. I would like to see the same comparison, except with Thomastik-Infeld jazz flats in the running. That’s what Carol Kaye recommended to me, and the difference between them and other flats is amazing. They get better the older they get!

  • @MisterJawaman
    @MisterJawaman 7 років тому +16

    Depends on which bass I'm using. Normally I play roundwounds exclusively but I do have an old Gibson EB-0 and a P-bass with flats. Both sound killer with these strings. I noticed my playing style changes a bit while playing flats. I tend to leave more space between the notes and don't try to play as much, or let certain notes ring out. Tapewounds are nice as well but it takes some getting used to.

    • @georgefelton5433
      @georgefelton5433 7 років тому

      What type of stuff do you play? Got any vids of you that you could put up? I'd love to hear the Gibson...

    • @MisterJawaman
      @MisterJawaman 7 років тому

      Different genres, mostly more of a rock-type-of-guy. It depends on the bass as well, like a P with flats will make me want to play more mellow 60s music. Or my other P bass with (fresh) rounds makes me want to shred some John Wetton King Crimson-era licks. I'm not in a band at the moment so I'm pretty free to do whatever.
      I don't have any recordings, except some covers of my previous band. There on UA-cam somewhere, but embarrassing (at least for me...). I do want to record and shoot videos of me playing covers, some of my own licks or maybe showcase one of my basses. The Gibson will be the first on the list if I follow through.

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields 6 років тому

      Oh man, I bet that EB-O's frequency range is like 50-90 🤣

  • @richardbartkus4192
    @richardbartkus4192 6 років тому +1

    Just watched this video for the firt time tonigh. I recently ( a couple years now) started playing bass. Wasa professional trombonist (local 47 & 7) until a stroke sent me to the bottom of the Hill, like the Greek Mythology Sysapjus to learn all over. I am blessed to have some great and celebrated Bass player friends but that was not what I came here to post about . . . . . I have a couple Carvin basses; a 4 with Tape wounds and a 5 sring Brian Bromberg with round wounds. Love the tape wounds, but I was never sure if it was the strings or the fact the 4 banger is Fretless. But when I heard them in your demo, I definately like the LaBella tape wounds. Thanks for all you have done in the videos Scott.

  • @TheZekeification
    @TheZekeification 5 років тому +112

    Um. Am I the only one that’s been doing string changes wrong (without crimping) for almost 20 years?
    So many “dead strings” that were just me being an idiot...my whole life is a lie

    • @ronc4500
      @ronc4500 5 років тому +2

      It's in the instructions with DR strings

    • @TheZekeification
      @TheZekeification 5 років тому +11

      @@ronc4500 I don't use DRs. And even if i did, i probably wouldn't read the instructions lol

    • @c_loeber
      @c_loeber 5 років тому +9

      Never had a dead string in 40 years of playing, never used the "hack"...must have been EXTREMELY lucky (read with sarcasm)

    • @paulneeds
      @paulneeds 4 роки тому +3

      Claus Løber same here. Surely the sharp bend at the tuner ‘crimps’ the windings to the core anyway?!

    • @k.h.1587
      @k.h.1587 4 роки тому

      That is really just an issue for round core strings, it is not as much of an issue for hex core strings which most are.
      Round core strings are usually stated as round core in their name, like DM NPS round core or GHS round core boomers, but some are tricky such as DR high beams where the old school packaging didn't mention it but they put a little card inside with those instructions.
      When the low riders came out they were classified as hex core on the box, which is kind of opposite as most strings are hex core such as slinkys, XL, rotosound, boomers etc.
      And the biggest sign of a slipped core is usually a chorusy sound to the string, rather than just deadness, as dead strings are an actual occurrence sometimes

  • @oldenmusicianco.4527
    @oldenmusicianco.4527 2 роки тому

    Since I’m not primarily a bassist, I didn’t care for strings until I needed to. My father’s bass, which is what I was using for playing, had strings that were on it since he bought it over ten years or so prior, they were almost green. I liked the darkness of these old round wounds, so I went and bought a set of flats. They were medium scale… which didn’t click in my head until I looked up scale lengths after setting the strings up, so I had to buy another set for long scale. They were round-core, and I string it up and loved it immediately.
    Just recently acquired a Fender Bass VI and almost immediately purchased the only flat wounds available for them (La Bella). I don’t like how bright round wounds are, and the feel is also inferior to that of the flats. The price is the only bad thing about them!

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums 5 років тому +19

    Flats every time if it was my record mate. Listening on great studio monitors and I mix for a living. The fundamental comes through best on the lower notes and each note has a dark, punchy articulation.

    • @real_mrmime9617
      @real_mrmime9617 3 роки тому +1

      Never heard a real producer that would just generalize and say one string type is just ‘the best’.
      Every professional producer I know recognizes the strengths and weaknesses of each type and know when to use what instead of just “oh xyz is the best cus ‘i mIx FoR a LiViNg’ ”

  • @landondale8496
    @landondale8496 6 років тому

    Super helpful! Played some flatwounds once and really liked the feel, but you just can't get the same grittiness with them as you can with roundwounds. Nice to be able to hear them side-by-side.

  • @TheGreatElmer
    @TheGreatElmer 7 років тому +4

    I'm not trying to make you a flatwound convert, but they are the type of string that I've found differs radically across brand. D'Addarios are very different from Fender in terms of tension, sound, and overall feel. Fender flats are extraordinarily different from Thomasik Infeld flats. It's like changing from bridge cables to licorice whips. So, if you kind of like the sound of flats, but the only thing inhibiting you is the feel, delve a little deeper. Of course, flats may not be your thing, which is cool too.

    • @EMB75
      @EMB75 7 років тому +1

      there are also 'new' EB Cobalt Flats. My (REALLY!) last strings. Punchy, growly, and...bright!

  • @robertcerins
    @robertcerins 4 роки тому

    Same taped strings for over 11 years same strings and everyone wants some when I show up. Thanks for this.

  • @abramvillalba4903
    @abramvillalba4903 7 років тому +4

    I use flats on my fretless. I find that they have a sound similar to a stand up bass and they don't chew up the neck like rounds would.

  • @onevoiceinc
    @onevoiceinc 6 років тому

    Admitted guitarist (boo hissss) who's played for 30 years but has been going to the source to learn proper bass techniques/style. Your lessons and videos are great. Very easy to watch. You remind me of James McAvoy, but I'm a Marvel fan, so that's okay too. Keep on doing what you're doing. And thanks for creating and sharing. :)

  • @lideresunidosmexico_
    @lideresunidosmexico_ 7 років тому +31

    It´s all about the music you are playing Scott. Your style is perfect for the Pbass with Roundwounds, but try to play with other Pbass, with 50´s or 60´s pickups, and Flats... some Rock and roll or Rockabillity and you will find the sweet spot for this strings.
    I have two Pbass, one with a 50´s configuration with flats and one with a Badass bridge, Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound pickups and Roundwounds... 180º apart...
    By the way, my little violin hofner bass always wears flatwounds... everything depends in the music and the kind of instrument you are using. Greetings from mexico!

  • @CatalystOfFire
    @CatalystOfFire 7 років тому

    With a guitar background I always go back to round wounds but I LOVE the sound of all of them. Sometimes I throw myself off with flat wounds just to drastically change how I approach playing a song.

  • @ChurchillCigar
    @ChurchillCigar 7 років тому +10

    I am so used to flats that I always wince when I try rounds again. Too bright and agressive to the ears and rough to the fingertips.
    Tapes are great too, can be really snappy and sound good with a pick.

    • @JA-ui4jx
      @JA-ui4jx 7 років тому

      Have you tried/compared different kinds of flats?

    • @ChurchillCigar
      @ChurchillCigar 7 років тому +1

      - I have tried LaBellas, which are fantastic (and their customer service is really good, had a broken string on a "too new" set, and after sending pictures, they sent me a new string).
      - I've had the old Fender Flats (previous version, nowadays they are made by D'Addario and have different characteristics), now discontinued, which were good.
      - GHS flats are great, I just wait or them to start re-making a 37" length (they make a 38" now and the E wraps around the post, which I don't find reassuring in the long run, but some have stated otherwise).
      - Rotosounds are my least favourite. They're well made, but they're very rough (winding isn't as tight, and it's not polished as much as Labella for example). Very bright at first, then "medium-strong", lacking the "thump" I like.
      GHS Tapewounds, sadly discontinued, were superb strings also.
      I need to try Chromes, still.

    • @thomaspick4123
      @thomaspick4123 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, rounds tear up my fingers too. Flats comfortable. My favorite, tapes, lower tension too than the flats.

    • @alexswanson1247
      @alexswanson1247 6 років тому

      ChurchillCigar I'm playing bass in my high schools jazz band next year, and while have a bass with round wounds I'd like to have something with a different sound, would you recommend tapewound or flats? I'm still fairly new to playing and I don't have the most finger dexterity so I'm worried about extra tension on flat wounds tiring out my fingers. Any info would be helpful, thanks

    • @allrequiredfields
      @allrequiredfields 6 років тому +1

      Alex Swanson If string tension matters at all to you, know that tapewounds feel like rubber bands, and flats are much stiffer than all the rest. I love high tension, so flats always feel the best to me.
      Now if you're looking for that dry, thumpy, more woody tone, then flats are the way to go. If you like a bit more high end, then tapes are a good choice. Though when new, some flats can almost be as bright as rounds. If you don't change strings often (I never change do) all flats will lose that bright high end over time.

  • @kevmalone
    @kevmalone 6 років тому

    Good video.
    May not be relevant to people here but - I used to gig 2-3 times at weekends when I was gigging (quite a while back). I used flatwounds because I found it easier on the fingers than roundwounds to pick up after a week or so away. Tapewounds look interesting - I'll give them a shot - thanks Scott!

  • @jazzbrew68
    @jazzbrew68 7 років тому +4

    Scott, I absolutely love La Bella black tapewounds. There was a time when I had them on ALL of my basses. Low tension. Smooth to the touch and you can actually get a lot of tones out of them. It's not just dark and thumpy (but it does a great job at that). Good harmonics too.

  • @johnnybgoode1950
    @johnnybgoode1950 3 роки тому

    You are an outstanding bassist no matter what strings you play.

  • @funkystx
    @funkystx 7 років тому +4

    What about Half Rounds?? The sound is closer to round wounds with the feel of flats; I quite enjoy them.

  • @RTPJu
    @RTPJu 7 років тому

    I'm a frettless player, so FOR ME the flat strings are the natural choice. But I never player with those taped in any kind of bass.
    Great video... cheers!

  • @cosmic53
    @cosmic53 3 роки тому +4

    I have come back again to this video, and I have noticed that you seem to feel freer when you play tapewounds, also you make a lot more bass faces, if this hints to something, I am going to try a set.

  • @johnwest4788
    @johnwest4788 3 роки тому

    I really love the way the tape wound strings sound in this comparison. Thanks for all the great videos!

  • @misterx8592
    @misterx8592 5 років тому +5

    Try the tapeworms next! hahaha

  • @pavloseattle
    @pavloseattle 6 років тому

    Hey Scott! Thank you for your videos. You're such a bright personality... Always easy and happy

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 4 роки тому +12

    Personally, I absolutely hate that horrendous squeaking noise that round wound strings make when you do slides. It's absolutely disgusting. You know that meme in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure where the sound of a fire truck siren causes Mikitaka physical pain because he hates it so much? String squeak is sin. Flat wound strings help mitigate it and honestly when you were playing them in this video it was so good and clean that I immediately let out a deep sigh.
    So yeah I think my vote goes to tapes.

  • @maxheadroom1378
    @maxheadroom1378 4 роки тому

    Cool video, thanks! I had my tape wound epiphany 11 years ago, never looked back.

  • @emmawebber9438
    @emmawebber9438 7 років тому +9

    Round wound on a P bass, and the flat wounds on a jazz bass. The flat wounds sound like an acoustic upright on steroids :-D .

  • @steviiiii
    @steviiiii 3 роки тому

    Scott - thank you. You allowed me to rediscover a very meaningful LOVE in my life... and its put me RIGHT back into a groove..!! and I dig it. You Sir - shall be knighted..!! in the halls of bassdom... IT IS SO.