Pershing Lecture Series: Austria at War in 1914 - Richard Faulkner

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  • @roanmarquez669
    @roanmarquez669 Рік тому +25

    As always Dr Faulkner gives an incredible presentation :) It's always a treat to hear him give a lecture. "1915 An Ecstasy of Fumbling" is still one the best WW1 lectures I've ever heard.

    • @simonobrien3185
      @simonobrien3185 Рік тому +2

      I will look this up because he is one of the best lecturers I have come across- his presentation on Verdun is great too!

  • @iansclone
    @iansclone 2 роки тому +28

    A minute and a half in, just found out the lecture is Dr. Faulkner's. Attention has been grabbed.

  • @johnnotrealname8168
    @johnnotrealname8168 2 роки тому +10

    A couple things he misses, the Emperor, Franz Josef would expand the Franchise in the Austrian lands to lessen German power as many were nationalists wanting protestant conversion and union with the German Empire. The country was polyglot but it was united by the Catholic faith, more than 3/4, as he shows, were Catholic (The protestant nobles in Hungary were a constant thorn in the Empire's side.) which acted as a glue for the for the Empire. That is missed here. Edit: I am here over two years later. The video is overall very good but it does make some errors. The Serbian occupation was very mild compared to other occupations of the time from Germany, Russia and the ottoman empire. If I am not mistaken food rations were higher in Serbia than in the Empire itself. As an additional note, whilst there were maximalist goals that tended to be annexationist, Austro-Hungarian goals tended to be border-corrections and vassalisations except in Russia (Annexing Poland for example.).

  • @simonobrien3185
    @simonobrien3185 Рік тому

    Yes he is an excellent lecturer- entertaining and packed full of information and insights- he is able to rattle of a great story like a spy drama! And without notes too!

  • @alansalazar9543
    @alansalazar9543 2 роки тому +3

    One of the best military history lecturers ever. Dr. Faulkner never disappoints.

  • @steventhompson399
    @steventhompson399 2 роки тому +16

    Thank you! I've heard more about the west (British French German American) than about the east (Austria-Hungary Russia Turkey) so this talk was especially interesting for me.
    It's kind of surprising how Austria stayed in the war almost as long as the Germans after their lackluster performances... even from the beginning they suffered huge losses in the Galicia region and the Carpathian mountains and their attempts to relieve Przemsyl or however its spelled. At least the KuK army didn't do so bad against Italy, for what that's worth...

    • @stacyhamilton2619
      @stacyhamilton2619 Рік тому

      Przemysl. Didn't pay your dictionary bill this month? Or your New Tab tab? If the Austro-Hungarians were this lazy they'd have folded in 1916.

  • @fintonmainz7845
    @fintonmainz7845 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the brief introduction.. You gave all the necessary information without any waffle.

  • @edoo93
    @edoo93 Рік тому +4

    Despite the disastrous beginning of their military campaigns and a rather incompetent generalship, the Austrian army also had some brilliant commanders like General Svetozar Boroević or General Raffaele Cadorna...

  • @dontfearthestinger
    @dontfearthestinger 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent lecture, subject I find very interesting and Dr. Faulkner is an entertaining speaker, will definitely go hunting more of his work.

  • @Fallen420chan
    @Fallen420chan 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for these!!! One day I'm gonna get to see them live! Stay safe and keep the knowledge going!

    • @tolyamochin4066
      @tolyamochin4066 Рік тому

      А сейчас ты видишь их в гробу, в надежде, что в скором времени они оживут.

    • @lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881
      @lrrrruleroftheplanetomicro6881 Рік тому +1

      You gonna see the Austrians live?
      Well, you can even come round for tea, no plomblom. But don't expect us to know much about WWI when WWII (for good reasons) takes up most of our history lessons in school.

  • @KonradAdenauerJr
    @KonradAdenauerJr Рік тому +9

    The heavy Austro-Hungarian losses at the hands of Serb forces and guerrillas made a really powerful impression on many Austrian junior officers and was to have future effects. During WW2, many of those officers were senior officers in the Wehrmacht and the SS, who ordered and carried out bestial, vindictive atrocities against the ethnic Serbian population in Serbia and Bosnia.

    • @unlearningcommunism4742
      @unlearningcommunism4742 Рік тому +6

      Serbian here. In 1914, Austrians committed a plethora of war crimes, well documented by the Swiss forensics expert Dr. Archibald Reiss. Germans came in 1915, and they were remembered as more chivalry kind of soldiers (we even gave them a nice military graveyard and a monument?!). Bulgarians were remembered as The Worst due to atrocities caused during the Toplica Rebellion (Toplicki Ustanak). Some of the things they have done were unimaginable.
      In WWII, Germans from Germany have committed retributions (Kragujevac massacre),
      while the Germans from Northern Serbia (Danubian Germans) flocked to SS, and they were bloodthirsty.

  • @jeffersonwright9275
    @jeffersonwright9275 2 роки тому +48

    And in a very minor side note, this area used to be called Galicia because in 1498, the king and queen of Spain celebrated Columbus’ discovery of America by expelling all the Jews of Spain. So many Jews from northeastern Spain which today is still the province of Galicia moved to this part of the AH Monarchy that the corner where Poland, Ukraine and Belorussia meet it became known as Galitzia

    • @aceofswords1725
      @aceofswords1725 Рік тому +3

      That would explain a lot...

    • @whtalt92
      @whtalt92 Рік тому +4

      @@aceofswords1725 sounds nice but not true. Ask any Ashkenaz.

    • @alexandermalinowski4277
      @alexandermalinowski4277 Рік тому +10

      Nope. The name of Galicia comes from town of Halicz and Duchy of Halicz en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia%E2%80%93Volhynia. This land was annexed by Poland in 14th century, but Hungary had a claim. When Austria annexed Polish lands in 1772, they used old Hungarian claim and applied it even to lands further West.

    • @ragged_claws_scuttling
      @ragged_claws_scuttling Рік тому +4

      And I ate so many fun-size 3 musketeers as a student in the Northeast, my mouth became known as “nougat.”
      Alas, you’re mistaken my friend. It is a coincidence that the names of those two regions sound alike; they emerged from two, distinct language families. I think it’s cool that you’re into Jewish history tho. Fascinating stuff.

    • @ceee338
      @ceee338 Рік тому

      When did the spanish golden age start?

  • @isaactomangrief9158
    @isaactomangrief9158 2 роки тому +6

    Many thanks to Richard Faulkner for delivering this lecture and the National WW1 Museum for facilitating it. I wonder if it would be interesting to your audience and visitors to balance the traditional narrative of Austria-Hungary as the anachronistic 'prison of nations' in a time of nationalism with the work over the past twenty years or so (e.g. by Pieter Judson) that challenges that characterisation.

    • @thomasgraham742
      @thomasgraham742 2 роки тому +1

      I'm reading Judson right now and had the same thought a few minutes into the video!

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc Рік тому

    This talk is so good that his epic pointing stick is well-earned.

  • @Andrew-pp2ql
    @Andrew-pp2ql 2 роки тому +26

    The phrase of Ludendorff “being chained to a corpse” did not originate from him. Rather during the early stages of the war a Jewish civilian had remarked to one of Lundendorff men that he “could not understand why such a lively and strong nation like Germany should chain itself to a corpse” referencing the Austrian/Hungarian forces. He rightly stated the different mettle of both armies from outright observations he took in. At any rate upon hearing of this conversation it was something he repeated as it became evident it was true. The Austrian forces were simply the least motivated and effective of the major powers during the war.

    • @theciakilledjfk5973
      @theciakilledjfk5973 2 роки тому

      Who else were they going to Ally with?

    • @laserprawn
      @laserprawn 2 роки тому +1

      The entire pre-war Austrian Army was destroyed in Serbia. Not great for morale.

    • @Andrew-pp2ql
      @Andrew-pp2ql 2 роки тому +1

      @@theciakilledjfk5973 out of the major powers then no one. Italy was initially part of the central powers but viewed the commitment to be only defensive in a nature not offensive. As both Germany and the Austrians took the offensive Italy felt justified for retracting on its commitment. If Germany had won at the Marne an argument could be made Italy might have thrown in with the central powers simply due to let’s join the winners and benefit what we can. Of course both the Ottoman Turks and Bulgaria joined the central powers.

    • @michaelmuller8072
      @michaelmuller8072 2 роки тому +4

      Italians had the weakest army in ww1.

  • @bonzzo777
    @bonzzo777 Рік тому +1

    This dude is my new favorite dude.

  • @pedromanuellopez142
    @pedromanuellopez142 2 роки тому +4

    One answer in the Q&A session is problematic and might merit closer examination. Wilhelm I basically forced the already seriously ill Franz Josef to accept German overall command in the summer of 1916, after the Austrian setbacks on the eastern front throughout that year. After Franz Josef`s death in November of 1916, his successor Karl I attempted to have joint overall command restored, but the Germans rejected the notion.
    This in turn led to Karl attempting to secretly negotiate a separate Austrian peace with the Entente starting in 1917, in what is known as the Sixtus Affair (his brother in law was Prince Sixtus of Bourbon-Parma). Karl did not inform the Germans, or even his own foreign minister Count Ottokar Czernin, of his intentions. Czernin was later publicly humiliated (and resigned in April of 1918) when the French Prime Minister Clemenceau had parts of the Austrian correspondence suing for peace made public, after Czernin claimed France was interested in peace negotiations, due to the near deadlock on the western front. All of this led to a further deterioration of German-Austrian relations, with the Germans thinking Karl was not only a weak leader, but one they could not trust.
    Hence at least at a command level, there was a lot of resentment and distrust between Austria-Hungary and Germany. On the ground things were very probably such a mess that the average K.u.K. soldier barely knew where his orders were coming from.

  • @lonestarbug
    @lonestarbug 5 місяців тому

    Great presentation!

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Рік тому +2

    Indy Nidell: *Shakes fist as Conrad Von Hortzendorf*

  • @zachthornton8337
    @zachthornton8337 2 роки тому +2

    Great lecture. What region in America is he from? His accent and manner of speaking are very engaging

  • @mortenpoulsen1496
    @mortenpoulsen1496 2 роки тому +1

    Well done. And very informative

  • @Hans-dw8nn
    @Hans-dw8nn 2 роки тому +2

    another great lecture ! Your great at keeping a person engaged in listening in compared to your colleagues they can be a real snooze fest despite discussing interesting topics. Hope to see more of your lectures soon.

  • @APHH-Content
    @APHH-Content Рік тому

    that’s why every second austrian and hungarian have serbian, croat or czech surenames! very sad but also very interesting topic thank you!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 2 роки тому

    Worthy content. Thanks for posting. Liked and shared.

  • @jeffersonwright9275
    @jeffersonwright9275 2 роки тому

    Fascinating run through of events on the eastern front in 1914. Austrian Sclamoerei indeed!

  • @kenehlears7716
    @kenehlears7716 2 роки тому

    As a kid I met a man mr tajonic who served in the Carpathian winter war in the A-H 3rd army.what horror stories he had.but I have very little info on that campaign.does anyone have suggestions where I could such information?

  • @terencenxumalo1159
    @terencenxumalo1159 Рік тому

    good work

  • @cpawp
    @cpawp 2 роки тому

    Is there a literature for the Eastern Front in WW1 you would recommand...?

  • @sean68mtown
    @sean68mtown 2 роки тому

    I love this stuff.

  • @forrestunderwood3174
    @forrestunderwood3174 2 роки тому +1

    Read The First World War by John Keegan. All of this and more is in it.

  • @lowell418
    @lowell418 Рік тому

    Outstanding lecture, comprehensive and fascinating. One question: The ethnic population graphs omit the Jewish population of the A-H Empire. How come?

    • @ArminFRITZ
      @ArminFRITZ Рік тому

      Reading in german Wiki Lemberg Galizien history
      about
      Bezirk Lemberg ==Lwiw, 1910
      160000 inh. 1300km²
      61% polish
      9% jewish
      .....supposedly the kuk Austrian census asked for language but Not including yiddish, so jews in Lemberg City May have ticked german

    • @ArminFRITZ
      @ArminFRITZ Рік тому

      See german Wiki
      Kronland Galizien
      Bevölkerungsstatistik census langguage Table and Religion Table
      1890 1900 1910
      Ca. 800000 =Eleven-% israelitisch = jewish religion

    • @NMojovic
      @NMojovic Рік тому

      They (A-H) counted Yiddish speaking Jews as Germans/Austrains

  • @jjackomin
    @jjackomin 2 роки тому

    My ancestors got out in the nick of time. They left what is now Slovenia in 1894.

  • @Styx8314
    @Styx8314 Рік тому +1

    Problem with comparing the Serbian situation with the various ethnic conflicts of Austria-Hungary is that the Czechs and Slovaks, Bosnians, etc. Did not have established independent nation states. The Serbs had an inviolable base of operations from which to train arm and equip terrorists to assassinate Austrian personnel and do other destabilizing things to the Empire. Even if the Czechs were encouraged by the assassination to start agitating for independence it much easier to police your own territory than to have to declare war and worry about the international situation. The Austrians could easily repress any of thier own restive minoritys to any degree they wanted without starting a world war. Since the Serbs did have a state, the kind and severity of the Austrians retribution is and international concern. I don't think the same things would have happened had a Slovak or Czech or Ruthenian separatist shot the Arch Duke and his wife. Had that happened and Austria leveled some city in Bohemia or Croatia, none of the other Powers would have done a thing. Let alone go to war. So my point is that had Austria not declared war on Serbia and gave it a lesser punishment, I don't believe a cascading series of nationalist uprisings would automatically break out to dissolve the Empire. They could have just dealt a serious public humiliation to Serbia and not lose all that much prestige.

    • @unlearningcommunism4742
      @unlearningcommunism4742 Рік тому

      Terrorists? Huh... Big words... There is a lot of history, at least 50 years before Ferdinand. It was a long process.
      The sin of Austria was that it was sabotaging small Christian nations of the Balkans (especially Slavs) for decades, because in some strange geo-politics, we were somehow worse than Turks.

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 Рік тому

    1:01:58 Conquerors do this quite often. "Angloization", for eample, in the US and Canada, Probably the UK, too, in Ireland.

  • @binder0301988
    @binder0301988 2 роки тому +3

    if Mr. Faulkner paid attention to modern historiography he would know that in 2018 new reasearch by Sergei Nelipovich was published on casualties of both sides on Eastern front in 1914. Peremysl was besieged by russian 11th or, how it was named in the documents, blockade army. Its losses in period 03.10.1914 -06.11.194 were: 10 428 (1029 KIA, 2992 MIA, 7048 WIA).

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 Рік тому

    Habeas Grabus. I love it.

  • @MrThumbs63
    @MrThumbs63 2 роки тому

    The "A Military Tower of Babel" slide has some math issues.

  • @NathanDudani
    @NathanDudani 2 роки тому

    Nice

  • @markpower5756
    @markpower5756 2 роки тому

    Great talk, thank you.

  • @thermionic1234567
    @thermionic1234567 2 роки тому

    Great presentation on the Eastern Front. Would love to hear your opinion on the lead-up to the SMO.

  • @macrosense
    @macrosense Рік тому

    The Austrian-Hungarian empire was not ready for a modern war at that point.

  • @miyahwhite2700
    @miyahwhite2700 2 роки тому

    There's a fantastic counter attack happening right now so u can still build up a operational reserve and hit back at overstretched Russian lines even in a war dominated by artillery

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 Рік тому

    the demise of the Austrian Empire was not predetermined. it was caused by the decision of a few people in Budapest and Vienna to resist reform and change.

    • @bsan141
      @bsan141 Рік тому +2

      No. It was broken up by the Trianon Peace treaty after WW1. Some sort of reorganisation was on the table until 1918, but then they changed their minds, because the Big Four decided that it was in their interest to break it up.

  • @Corvinuswargaming1444
    @Corvinuswargaming1444 6 місяців тому +1

    Its a little disappointing that this lecture is repeating the “Prison of Nations” narrative of Austria-Hungary, perhaps a scholar from Central Europe or a Habsburg expert like Pieter Judson could have given a more balanced perspective.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Місяць тому

      I do agree. Although I appreciate the emphasis he places on Austrian atrocities in Serbia, the Serbian occupation by all accounts was one of the mildest in the War. Milder than German, Russian and ottoman ones. Some of the reprisals he mentions were due to guerrillas and I think civilians attacking the Army (Of course barring civilians who fight who thence become legitimate targets civilians remain off limits.). Another issue I have is that he fails to mention that the Serbians were hardly victims, they were spraying walls with Albanian dead as well and Austria had to guarantee the latter's independence. In Galicia there were Russophiles but there were also jews and Catholics the Russians were persecuting as well.

  • @syedadeelhussain2691
    @syedadeelhussain2691 Рік тому +1

    Austrians pushed the Italians back in The Battle of Caporetto (also known as the Twelfth Battle of the Isonzo, the Battle of Kobarid or Karfreit).
    Austrains did alright in the Italian Alps and the Carpathian terrain, but, elsewhere they disintegrated from within due to low morale and things explained by the professor.

  • @yukikaze3436
    @yukikaze3436 2 роки тому +4

    In the book "The Resurection and Collapse of Empire in Habsburg Serbia 1914-1918 John G Cuma The Austrians were shocked that some of the Komitinjis (Guerillas) included Women and children. They were also shocked that the Serbs mutilated Austrian wounded and behaved badly when they were on Austrian soil. Also note the Austrian High command gave orders for the troops to behave . Also note the Germans killed a lot more people in Belgium than the Austrians did in Serbia. The Austrians also wanted to intigrate Serbia into their empire so they did not behave like Nazi German and the USSR in WW II. As for the Russians the book "Nationalizing the Russian Empire" Eric Lohr is on the how the Russians deportations ect

    • @unlearningcommunism4742
      @unlearningcommunism4742 Рік тому +5

      Women and Children - true (google Milunka Savic and Momcilo Gavric)
      mutilated Austrian wounded - proves, or it never happened. They were running away too quickly. The opposite happened, goodle Archibald Reiss.
      behaved badly when they were on Austrian soil - when it happened? Montenegro army was in Bosnia for a few months and Serbian Army was in Vojvodina for about a month, without being in a single meaningful town. Thus, never happened.
      The Austrians also wanted to intigrate Serbia into their empire so they did not behave like Nazi German - not true. They even had concentration camps, yes, in WWI (Google Nezhider)

  • @R005t3r
    @R005t3r 2 роки тому

    He sounds like John Goodman

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 2 роки тому

    thank you for making the connection between Tsar Nicholas II and
    tsar vlad the intriguer/invader.
    I hope tsar vlad shares the same fate

  • @lonestarbug
    @lonestarbug 5 місяців тому

    “The sick man of Europe.” The mess known as Austria-Hungary.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Місяць тому

      This is not accepted by modern historiography. Austria-Hungary, on the whole, was acceptable to the minorities. For example, contrary to Austrian and Czech nationalist historiographies, the Czechs were very loyal until 1918. In fact most of them were loyal until the end.

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding Рік тому

    Why do so many people pronounce Putin as Pewtin, like he smells bad?

  • @alfredttarski4521
    @alfredttarski4521 Рік тому

    4:00 Napoleon did _not_ disband the Holy Roman Empire.

    • @rhysnichols8608
      @rhysnichols8608 Рік тому +1

      He brought about the conditions that lead to it being disbanded. The Austrian emperor (then holy Roman emperor) Franz 2nd disbanded it in 1806 following Austria’s defeat at Austerlitz, also Napoleon created the confederation of the Rhine which bought many German states under French influence. So yeah Napoleon didn’t disband it himself but he caused it to happen

  • @ljubomirsazdov5476
    @ljubomirsazdov5476 Рік тому +1

    Živela SRBIJA

  • @marcneef795
    @marcneef795 Рік тому

    But hey, he spoke 7 languages!

  • @shea086
    @shea086 Рік тому +1

    Im fairly sure Walt Disney could have told this tale in a more accurate fashion. Im convinced now that the old saying is correct. Americans believe they are the whole world, when in fact they are an old fashioned, small part of it.. of yesteryear. I must add that I am referring to the American Authorities and not the lovely American people.

  • @garymcnutt
    @garymcnutt 11 місяців тому

    Oil and gas, oil and gas, oil and gas, oil and gas, oil and gas, oil and gas.

  • @thermionic1234567
    @thermionic1234567 Рік тому

    Considering Britain’s capacity for mischief, I’m wondering if Britain may have incited ethnic chaos in the Dual Monarchy?

  • @jordandowland7256
    @jordandowland7256 Рік тому

    Those jokes are some zingers! 😆

  • @streetracer2321
    @streetracer2321 2 роки тому +2

    All I have to say about this topic is: Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser

  • @JohnLandau-h5g
    @JohnLandau-h5g Рік тому +2

    There is considerable evidence that Conrad deliberately facilitated the assassination of the grand duke. Even the Emperor himself may have been implicated.. Not that they did anything themselves to kmurder him, but they knew that the" Serbian :militants,: with some support from elements of the Serbian military. They arranged for the there to be no police or militarypresencealomg thr grsnduke's route, and they published s very detailed itinerary of the route that the grand duke's motorcade weeks in advance, making it very easy for the assassins to station along the motorcade's route and get close to the ducal couple. The motive: The Austrians needed a cassus belli for going to war with Serbia. In addition, the Emperor had made it clear that he did not want the drand duke to succeed him. He considered the grand duke unfit to the rule the empire, and he despised his wife as a lower class woman with no right to be married to a member of the royal family.

  • @joekochinski5591
    @joekochinski5591 2 роки тому

    First!

  • @fhollhuber1622
    @fhollhuber1622 9 місяців тому

    Precursor of the EU!

  • @shanequeen5003
    @shanequeen5003 Рік тому

    Typical yank he has at Putin but forgets the term manifest destiny hubris is ridiculous