The Crunchiest Chords (31-TET)

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @nickcarter4006
    @nickcarter4006 3 роки тому +2098

    The virgin “perfect-pitch” haver: That piano’s out of tune!
    The chad microtonalist: YES.

    • @cgibbard
      @cgibbard 3 роки тому +114

      "It's more in tune than your piano."

    • @JaQba91
      @JaQba91 3 роки тому +3

      Ha ha.

    • @anonymousaccordionist3326
      @anonymousaccordionist3326 3 роки тому +18

      Technically, some of these might sound more in tune to certain individuals with perfect pitch. Apparently the harmonic series is not in consistent intervals, but the tuning of a piano _is._

    • @cgibbard
      @cgibbard 3 роки тому +32

      @@anonymousaccordionist3326 It doesn't require perfect pitch at all. Perfect pitch is only needed to judge e.g. whether the A on a piano is actually an A, or some other note. As soon as intervals get involved, anyone can tell the difference, because out of tune intervals will have beating between harmonics that you can hear as soon as you know what to listen for. For example, if we take the actual 5th harmonic of middle A, that's 5 * 440 Hz = 2200 Hz. When you hit a string tuned so its fundamental is 440 Hz, you'll also generally get some vibrations at 2200 Hz as part of the timbre of the instrument. Now let's go up a major third from there to C#, and consider the 4th harmonic of that note. If C# were a perfect 5/4 ratio above A, then its 4th harmonic would exactly match 2200 Hz, and that's what consonance is: partials of different notes lining up nicely. Now let's use the major third in 12 equal. We'll get 2^(4/12) * 440 as our C# (It's 2^(4/12) because a major third is 4 steps in 12 equal), and then multiply that by 4 to get the fourth harmonic, and we get 2217.5. There will be a beat frequency between the fifth harmonic of our A at 2200 Hz, and the fourth harmonic of our C# at 2217.5 Hz at the absolute difference of those: 17.5 Hz. This creates a sort of "buzzing" that is *very* noticeable if you're used to thirds that are in tune. Let's try it with 31 equal: we get 2^(10/31) * 440 as our C# (the major third is 10 steps of 31 equal), and then multiply that by 4, and we get 2201 Hz. So the beating is 1 Hz, which is much slower and less noticeable (a little slow beating can even be pleasant, like a gentle chorus effect).
      It's a compromise though, since while the thirds are more in tune in 31 equal, you give up a little accuracy in the fifths and fourths (not enough to be really painful though -- if we took that A and the E above it in 31 equal, the 3rd harmonic of the A would beat against the 2nd harmonic of the E at about 4 Hz, which is still pretty decent). The fifths in 31 equal are about 5 cents out, and the thirds in 12 equal are about 13 cents out.
      The real things which set 31 equal ahead of 12 equal for me are that (1) its B-C / E-F semitone is much better in tune with the 16/15 ratio it's generally meant to be, making the major and minor scales just generally better sounding overall. This also means maj7 chords are nicer, not quite as nice as the ones in 43 equal, but very nice, and (2) all the ratios that have a 7 in the numerator or denominator, and which help line up the 7th harmonics of notes with other harmonics of other notes have good approximations and are available to use to make new types of harmony, whereas 12 equal does such a poor job approximating them that it basically isn't a thing.

    • @suomeaboo
      @suomeaboo 2 роки тому +14

      The gigachad microtonal "perfect pitch" haver: I see this as an absolute win.

  • @jemplayer
    @jemplayer 3 роки тому +1115

    Being someone that only has a basic understanding of theory, watching this shit makes me feel like a fledgling wizard watching some archmage perform some miracle level magic. My brain is now backwards in my head.

    • @kedronmallia939
      @kedronmallia939 3 роки тому +10

      There arent that crazy timings here. Id recommened just trying to learn one bar for now. Even if it takes a week just keep practicing.

    • @jemplayer
      @jemplayer 3 роки тому +64

      @@kedronmallia939 I was referring more to the... tonal nature? of the composition. Microtones are nuts. And I wish I had more time to learn theory. I just watch UA-cam videos now.

    • @TaveZgg
      @TaveZgg 3 роки тому +15

      @@jemplayer if your goal is to listen to more microtonal music, try some classical Indian, or Indonesian music. The indian raga system, like many other middle eastern tuning systems are scales that use microtones (half flat/sharp) and also have specific ornamentations built around microtones. The indonesian "classical" music (built around bronze gong instruments) is often purposefully "out of tune" (i put that in parentheses as that's how it's seen in western music, not in indonesian music) and often times has sounds that are very microtonal and seem out of place, even though they're totally normal. Last thing id recommend is listening to the poet by Tigran Hamasyan. It's a cool example of how middle eastern scales can sound both out of tune, and in tune at the same time. If im not mistaken, he plays a piano and doubles it, changing one piano to a half flat/half sharp note to match the middle eastern sound

    • @kedronmallia939
      @kedronmallia939 3 роки тому

      @UCmIIrZVyf-3mzuN3_oer7BA didnt think he was bitching first of all. All I wanted to do was give him courage to practice. The only one doing that is you

    • @h00db01i
      @h00db01i 2 роки тому +7

      @@TaveZgg "Last thing I'd recommend" means "what I would never recommend". better use "my final recommendation would be (...)"

  • @jamesonrichards5105
    @jamesonrichards5105 3 роки тому +413

    This is the way I would introduce people to microtonality

    • @kassandrasaavedra6312
      @kassandrasaavedra6312 3 роки тому +16

      Have you ever heard of Sevish?

    • @jamesonrichards5105
      @jamesonrichards5105 3 роки тому +6

      @@kassandrasaavedra6312 I just checked it out and I got to say what a gem to find this, thanks for the recommendation

    • @tutzysugarberg4879
      @tutzysugarberg4879 3 роки тому +12

      Have you ever heard of Jacob Collier?

    • @AramaxTheHuman
      @AramaxTheHuman 3 роки тому +11

      @@jamesonrichards5105 another recommendation would be zhea erose!

    • @MiguelCyc
      @MiguelCyc 3 роки тому +3

      I would say King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard's album Flying Microtonal Banana

  • @hotdogskid
    @hotdogskid 3 роки тому +1185

    Ive become addicted to crunchy chords. First just a dominant 7 was enough to appease me but then i was introduced to the sharp 9, then the flat 13, and now were just using unnamed notes! I fear ill never return to triads again

    • @WikiBidoz
      @WikiBidoz 3 роки тому +60

      No one would ever return to triads after hearing something like Em11 -> Eb13#11 (sweet crunchy) -> Dm7 (thanks, Charles Cornell)

    • @i_cam
      @i_cam 3 роки тому +35

      hey man, triads can be killer if you do em right
      then again 3:34 hits so different what the f u c k d o g

    • @loubamour
      @loubamour 3 роки тому +15

      Triads are really important don’t sleep on them

    • @isaacdes962
      @isaacdes962 3 роки тому +6

      @@WikiBidoz that's still triads and 7th chords haha just stacked on top of each other

    • @WikiBidoz
      @WikiBidoz 3 роки тому +1

      @@isaacdes962 yeah, you could express an extended chord like that, but they're not a singular triad, that's the point. I meant you won't return to using only triads as chords

  • @misterxenon5068
    @misterxenon5068 Рік тому +11

    Stuff like this is why I prefer music tuned in 31-TET over the usual 12-TET

  • @puttyhands
    @puttyhands 3 роки тому +2224

    The sound is so rich and yet not as jarring as a lot of microtonal music is. This is great. 👍

    • @jeffstevens6916
      @jeffstevens6916 3 роки тому +39

      Check out sevish totally different style but v smooth microtonal shit it’s like rly cool

    • @solkvist8668
      @solkvist8668 3 роки тому +28

      @@jeffstevens6916 specifically his song gleam is probably the most digestible, albeit still a bit jarring

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 3 роки тому +13

      I also have a cover of Gleam on my channel with four microtonal pianos

    • @sethdemers1530
      @sethdemers1530 3 роки тому +4

      You should check out mild high clubs recent album lots of microtonal elements

    • @juliojimenez1992
      @juliojimenez1992 2 роки тому +2

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  • @monkeseeaction21987
    @monkeseeaction21987 3 роки тому +1134

    People with perfect pitch: this is hell
    People with perfect micro-pitch and people with no pitch perception: *this is fine*

    • @Fortless
      @Fortless 2 роки тому +31

      i actually like it a lot

    • @servvo
      @servvo 2 роки тому +50

      this isn't 'fine'
      this is _fiiiiiine_

    • @lucaferlisi2486
      @lucaferlisi2486 Рік тому +11

      i have it, and tho it sounds off, i quite like it. Or, well, theres this weird feeling that i like something because its weird

    • @catoninetails789
      @catoninetails789 Рік тому +9

      Why do you think perfect pitch (rather than relative) should make this unpleasant?

    • @diabl2master
      @diabl2master Рік тому +8

      I think it's initially jarring to anyone regardless of perfect pitch. Certainly was to be and still is to some extent. Intervals still don't "make sense" to our 12TET brains. But it feels like an interesting rewiring of my brain. At the same time I love the sound and still have this thing saying "ew no" in the back of my mind. I wonder what will happen if I keep listening to 31TET music for years.

  • @NuggetEternal
    @NuggetEternal 3 роки тому +371

    It works so well because the sound produced is very reminiscent of an old honky tonk piano in a saloon.

    • @tuckvison
      @tuckvison Рік тому +8

      Yeah, that's why a ton of people only perform or compose microtonal music on detuned pianos. The cultural framework is already there through old honky tonks and in more recent years lo-fi hip hop detuned pianos.

    • @brown9671
      @brown9671 6 днів тому

      it also uses the blues which already uses microtones and the "notes inbetween"

  • @anonymousaccordionist3326
    @anonymousaccordionist3326 3 роки тому +248

    To me this just sounds like the warm, nostalgic feel of my father playing my grandparent's old upright when that whole side of the extended family would gather there on Christmas day.

    • @dazza2350
      @dazza2350 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah because it's out of tune

    • @b1shop988
      @b1shop988 2 роки тому +15

      @@dazza2350 it's not out of tune he's playing on an electric
      also it's microtonal meaning he's playing notes in between semitones.

    • @h00db01i
      @h00db01i 2 роки тому +10

      @@b1shop988 grandpa's old upright was out of tune. and so is the e-keyboard, it's sort of the joke of e-keyboards that they can replicate any tune you tell them to

    • @stalcher1699
      @stalcher1699 Рік тому +5

      @@h00db01i The keyboard is not "out of tune", it's specifically tuned to 31-TET as it says; it'd be "out of tune" if it was supposed to be tuned to 12-TET and sounded like 31TET, but that's not the case here.

  • @nickphipp1949
    @nickphipp1949 3 роки тому +458

    Sounds like your switching between a Steinway and a pub piano, mid-stride. I love it.

  • @Dodecatone
    @Dodecatone Рік тому +8

    Idk what people are complaining about in the comments; I have perfect pitch and I'm vibing to notes I never knew existed

  • @Lolaismypoopydog2036
    @Lolaismypoopydog2036 3 роки тому +349

    That's such a strange sensation; my brain just wants to just call it out of tune

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 3 роки тому +13

      Good to know that it's not only me. It almost hurts... Not used to this at all!

    • @jean-baptistelore6959
      @jean-baptistelore6959 3 роки тому +32

      But what is "in tune"? After all equal temperament is not so old in the music history (if you consider pure intonation, pythagorean or baroco style) and even today many musical practices all other the world use differents musical systems.

    • @Lolaismypoopydog2036
      @Lolaismypoopydog2036 3 роки тому +5

      @@jean-baptistelore6959 idk how to explain it. My brain just says "WRONG"

    • @Lolaismypoopydog2036
      @Lolaismypoopydog2036 3 роки тому +3

      @@jean-baptistelore6959 you're right. It just sounds weird to my ears. My brain just says "WRONG"

    • @jean-baptistelore6959
      @jean-baptistelore6959 3 роки тому +14

      In fact, it is simply a matter of style, will and social consensus. After all, quarter tones are no longer disturbing in arabic music when you become familiar with it, it is even logical when you think of it like a perfect triad of notes.
      It is only strange in a western ear because of a 300 years old tradition (if you think that equal temperament appear at the end of Bach's life in the 18th century).

  • @nicholastessier8504
    @nicholastessier8504 3 роки тому +90

    "This sounds like normal TET! Wait here it doesn't. Now it goes again! Wait no not that part. That part does! Oh wow there we go"

    • @cameronblanchette6687
      @cameronblanchette6687 3 роки тому +3

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 9 місяців тому +3

      12edo and 31edo are both meantone tunings, so a lot of harmony is compatible

    • @martonius1978
      @martonius1978 6 місяців тому

      It did "seem" like it's more noticeable with chromatic movements, perhaps?

  • @vigglewiggle5396
    @vigglewiggle5396 3 роки тому +166

    Perfect for this style of music. Feels like an old saloon piano

    • @pauletheridge2412
      @pauletheridge2412 3 роки тому +1

      Good call! Exactly that!!

    • @YourMJK
      @YourMJK 3 роки тому +3

      Because it's so out of tune lol

    • @mikeyeyey8678
      @mikeyeyey8678 3 роки тому +6

      @@YourMJK whats out of tune? The notes are in tone

    • @YourMJK
      @YourMJK 3 роки тому +9

      @@mikeyeyey8678 Each piano key has 1-3 strings and if those aren't tuned to the same pitch you get this "flangey" saloon sound.

    • @mikeyeyey8678
      @mikeyeyey8678 3 роки тому +9

      @@YourMJK right but this pianos electric first of all, so its in tune no matter what, and hes playing microtonal music, which is why it sounds out of tune

  • @GJSolo
    @GJSolo 3 роки тому +888

    I have perfect pitch. My brain doesn't seem to really understand this and I love it so much.

    • @JacobRobot321
      @JacobRobot321 3 роки тому +148

      i have perfect pitch moment

    • @blu4r414
      @blu4r414 3 роки тому +95

      I dont have perfect pitch but it confuses my brain anyways

    • @Myst6579
      @Myst6579 3 роки тому +19

      @@blu4r414 relatable

    • @ajbp95
      @ajbp95 3 роки тому +9

      @@blu4r414 Same!

    • @drew-et1mm
      @drew-et1mm 3 роки тому +10

      its like a new frame on a photograph

  • @Idiomatick
    @Idiomatick Рік тому +56

    3:20 run and 3:30 is so satisfying.
    Also... how in the christ was this transcribed? I can't imagine this being possible to do by ear.

  • @charlesgamble4670
    @charlesgamble4670 Рік тому +25

    My favorite thing about this channel is that he LINKS THE ORIGINAL VIDEO. So many people don't but because he actually adds value it makes sense.

  • @seth24259
    @seth24259 3 роки тому +141

    I've never heard anything with microtones sound like that, that was amazing

  • @graf
    @graf 3 роки тому +47

    the wolf fifth at the end of a phrase REALLY slaps

  • @eternalslumber2k6
    @eternalslumber2k6 Рік тому +2

    I have been watching this for fifteen minutes and I can't stop, please help

  • @failedrevolutionary9497
    @failedrevolutionary9497 2 роки тому +16

    This sounds like what it feels like to eat a really good piece of bread.

    • @avimaltz
      @avimaltz 5 місяців тому +2

      Underrated comment

  • @jazzman92478
    @jazzman92478 3 роки тому +101

    Love the effect. Starts out "in tune" and slowly falls "out of tune" during the performance. Really nice.

    • @Fortless
      @Fortless 2 роки тому +12

      or it started out of tune and slowly falls in tune, how about that ?

    • @doinkens
      @doinkens Рік тому +2

      ​@@Fortlessyou're not him

    • @Fortless
      @Fortless Рік тому +3

      @@doinkens I mean, "in tune" is really subjective nowadays as we are so used to hearing 12TET. Also that comment is a year old

  • @AngeloBassVComposer
    @AngeloBassVComposer 4 місяці тому +1

    As someone with perfect pitch, this isn’t a musical sin, it’s a musical fetish, and I’m having an eargasm 😩😩😩

  • @Drumtariano
    @Drumtariano Рік тому +9

    the descent at 1:28 is blowing my mind, it's like a record being slowed down

    • @suomeaboo
      @suomeaboo 10 місяців тому

      bass goes Bb Eb A# D#, Bb and Eb are just one 31-edo step above A# and D# so they sound ever so slightly different in pitch

  • @alfredfind1219
    @alfredfind1219 Рік тому +6

    Microtonality is so cool. Let's reinvent music theory for 31 tone equal temperament!!

  • @ianmoore5502
    @ianmoore5502 3 роки тому +27

    2:15 his absolute grin cus he KNOWS how good n crunch that felt

  • @MishaP3141
    @MishaP3141 Рік тому +2

    This is the most illegaly pleasing piece of music i've heard so far

  • @grace921
    @grace921 2 роки тому +133

    this is literally the only microtonal music i found so far that i think doesnt sound scary xD

    • @AramaxTheHuman
      @AramaxTheHuman Рік тому +11

      you can check sevish, brendan byrnes, benyamind, hear between the lines! they make more pleasant music for the majority of people

    • @TheGreatEllie125
      @TheGreatEllie125 Рік тому +1

      Also check out Jacob Colliers In the bleak midwinter. He does like a half sharp key change thingy

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 Рік тому +5

      Glad you think so. Part of the reason, I expect, is that the intervals that occur most often in the tonal music we're used to --- perfect 4th and 5th, major and minor 3rd and 6th --- are very close to in tune. Indeed, 31et's major 3rd (and therefore also minor 6th) is even closer to in tune than 12et's is.

    • @nolaffinmatter
      @nolaffinmatter Рік тому

      I find Brendan Byrnes stuff to still sound eerie and dissonant, but Sevish’s stuff feels more right

    • @alaeifR
      @alaeifR 2 місяці тому

      ua-cam.com/video/Hcos1twObz0/v-deo.html

  • @IAMIOfficial
    @IAMIOfficial 3 роки тому +11

    3:34 THE STANKKKKKKK

    • @maandalen
      @maandalen 2 роки тому +3

      Once you get that sound into your ears it can be hard to go back, the crunch cannot be unheard.

  • @Nixo66
    @Nixo66 8 місяців тому +3

    Oh my god. I didn’t know this would unlock something in my brain. Thanks. As a musician who struggles with “ making it sound right” or “ perfect” whatever. This is amazing it’s soo fucking good

  • @raisulshaque
    @raisulshaque 3 роки тому +93

    I'm neither a musician nor music student; my brain feels like there's something wrong but cannot point it out.
    It feels like one of those huge paintings; you can't make anything out of it if you stand too close. But overall, everything makes perfect sense once you see the whole thing.

  • @maruetsu_HND
    @maruetsu_HND 2 роки тому +5

    "How many accidentals are you going to add?"
    "YES!"

  • @charlieruisseau2476
    @charlieruisseau2476 3 роки тому +15

    this is goood!
    I love how the "wrong" notes bring back my attention

  • @Encysted
    @Encysted 3 роки тому +19

    1:30 when the illusion fades before the protagonist's eyes

    • @coffeeandboatshoes
      @coffeeandboatshoes 3 роки тому +3

      i know exactly what you’re talking about, and thank you for that

  • @Hector-bj3ls
    @Hector-bj3ls 6 місяців тому +1

    What I like about this, in contrast to a lot of microtonal music, is how it still sounds good.
    Having microtones doesn't mean just playing all the dissonant chords. You can do that without microtones (you just have fewer chords).

  • @miguelroldao6939
    @miguelroldao6939 3 роки тому +68

    The descending chords at 2:15 sound so nostalgic

    • @tykingcrystal864
      @tykingcrystal864 2 роки тому +1

      True, it reminds me of my first time hearing Giant Steps or watching an movie in a classroom

    • @Kaiveran
      @Kaiveran 2 роки тому

      Memories of Mr. Rogers...

    • @wigwagstudios2474
      @wigwagstudios2474 Рік тому

      its like YEAHHHHHHHHHHH gonna have a summer kind of sunset outside in the old brick buildings town

  • @amj.composer
    @amj.composer 3 роки тому +120

    THIS A CROSSOVER I DIDN'T THINK I'LL SEE. I love both you guys.

  • @ChevisPreston
    @ChevisPreston 3 роки тому +47

    For some reason, to me, it doesn’t sound out of tune - it sounds like an old western piano, that’s so out of tune, that it actually became more in tune

    • @want-diversecontent3887
      @want-diversecontent3887 2 роки тому +7

      There's probably some arrangement of words with the term "Just Intonation" somewhere for me to type, but I can't think of it right now

    • @slowcuber_aze
      @slowcuber_aze Рік тому +2

      I think of honky-tonk piano

  • @FuzzyNaiyalism
    @FuzzyNaiyalism 2 роки тому +17

    Its amazing how bright the treble line can get with some microtones, had me hooked from the start. And how the bass line just ate up all the litte twitches of tonality into this sharp but smooth groove just sent it home.
    So glad I found this channel.

  • @brendansimkins
    @brendansimkins 11 місяців тому +3

    Sounds like something a genetically modified 4-armed person would play in a saloon orbiting Saturn

  • @gabrielkinzel3389
    @gabrielkinzel3389 2 роки тому +23

    this is the soundtrack for those amazing dreams that you can't remember

  • @iopvixens
    @iopvixens 3 роки тому +19

    31EDO has nice 3rd, decent 5th, nice 7th, and decent 11th. This system might be proposed in the Renaissance era.

    • @ReyndOut
      @ReyndOut 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah, it actually was! This was extremely close to meantone temperament (What they used at the time), so people like Adriaan Fokker came with the idea to use 31 equal divisions of the octave!

  • @mrbigg151
    @mrbigg151 3 роки тому +22

    When I read "crunchiest chords" my brain was like 🤔...after the 2nd page, it hit me💡. That's some excellent playing and I look forward to hearing more.

  • @eeffreef330
    @eeffreef330 2 роки тому +8

    for all the comments. As a perfect pitch haver I live for this shit and can no longer hear this song any other way

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel Рік тому +4

      Me too! I think having perfect pitch is part of why I’m addicted to xenharmonic music

    • @chikapunk4340
      @chikapunk4340 Рік тому +5

      @@stephenweigelI can tell by your pfp

  • @FASTFASTmusic
    @FASTFASTmusic 3 роки тому +9

    Amazing transcription. And what a bada$$ Mike is. The future is coming.

    • @Sevish
      @Sevish Рік тому +1

      real recognise real

  • @viktorsincic8039
    @viktorsincic8039 8 місяців тому +1

    I listen to this every day, for months now.
    This is my favorite Sweet Lorraine on the web, man. Thank you!

  • @bubbillusion
    @bubbillusion Рік тому +2

    2:14 this feels like when you stand up too fast and you go like "woaahhh"

  • @AGLubang
    @AGLubang 2 місяці тому

    3:23 That 4:5:6:7:9 chords are very close to the Bohlen-Pierce sound. Awesome!

  • @316Minecraft
    @316Minecraft 3 роки тому +12

    Wow. My brain doesn’t even know where to begin comprehending this, let alone play it. 2:32 was magic for me!

  • @masonkesslar8168
    @masonkesslar8168 5 місяців тому

    This will forever remain one of the coolest things I've ever heard or will ever hear. It's up there with Bach and Ben Johnston, amazing stuff!!!

  • @Gnurklesquimp2
    @Gnurklesquimp2 9 місяців тому

    0:22 Love the way the lower notes rub together here, seems like a fun sample to work with too

  • @skeletony999
    @skeletony999 3 роки тому +17

    I CAN’T STOP LISTENING TO THIS IT’S SO GOOOOD

  • @coosoorlog
    @coosoorlog Рік тому +4

    Some of these chords feel like peeing my pants and savoring the warm sensation. 10/10

  • @graysonjenkins6977
    @graysonjenkins6977 3 роки тому +61

    This is really beautiful and super interesting to hear! I wish there was more microtonal music out there to make my brain work.

    • @Nae_Ayy
      @Nae_Ayy 3 роки тому +7

      There's quite a bit of microtonal music on UA-cam atm, it's just that they're smaller UA-camrs that don't get recommended often, even if you listen to microtonal music often.

  • @skycondon2743
    @skycondon2743 2 роки тому +6

    if having perfect pitch means that I couldn't enjoy this, then I would never want it

    • @JVR10893
      @JVR10893 2 роки тому +3

      My best friend has perfect pitch and when I showed this to him he absolutely loved it.

    • @Kaiveran
      @Kaiveran 2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, perfect pitch is more of an ability to memorize frequency, rather than a curse of only recognizing 12 "right" notes forever. For example, people with perfect pitch have joined Harry Partch ensembles and learned to recognize the 43 tones over time.

  • @jonathanmoellman
    @jonathanmoellman Рік тому +3

    Thanks @georgecollier for bringing us such norm-defying music! I just sub'd when I saw you're still in high school -- awesome to have fellow "youngsters" interested in bringing great music back into the mainstream! Cheers mate!

  • @envybartowski8519
    @envybartowski8519 Рік тому +1

    Play this in front of any establishment and I'm going in.

  • @Sedyon
    @Sedyon 6 місяців тому +2

    I have perfect pitch, it sounds very weird and unnerving but also very cool in a way

    • @TentacleTerrorMusic
      @TentacleTerrorMusic 5 місяців тому +2

      You're on your way to become a microtonalist, keep it up dude

    • @Sedyon
      @Sedyon 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TentacleTerrorMusic I'd love to create microtonal music actually, but I don't know enough theory for tuning systems other than 12-TET, and those other systems, like 31-TET or 17-TET, are barely supported by music software and plugins (I can't even change the temperament in FL Studio's piano roll).

    • @Sedyon
      @Sedyon 5 місяців тому +1

      @@TentacleTerrorMusic It's also very difficult for me to recognize the precise pitch of a note if it's not in the 12-TET. Some songs are sometimes in a half-flat or a half-sharp key, and this annoys me a lot (for example, when I listen to Michael Jackson's Bad or Smooth Criminal, my brain scrambles to work out whether the song is in A minor or B-flat minor, even though it's in none of those keys!)

  • @thecringequeen31
    @thecringequeen31 Рік тому +5

    One of my online friends once described microtones as adding a sowerness to music and the analogy really rings well in this. The song feels almost nicely acidic. Like a nice cup of sweet lemonade in the summer.

  • @vinzenzwiller6594
    @vinzenzwiller6594 3 роки тому +7

    I like how the 1.5 flat looks like a little heart

    • @AramaxTheHuman
      @AramaxTheHuman 2 роки тому +8

      it is actually called "heart" by few microtonalists! for the 1.5 sharp it'd be called "fries" since it looks like waffle fries! :D
      "Hear between the lines" made a video about that, you're free to check it out

  • @Scratchydoesmusic
    @Scratchydoesmusic 11 місяців тому +2

    Cidn’t even realize this was 31 TET until i read the title. I’m perfect out of tune lol

    • @TentacleTerrorMusic
      @TentacleTerrorMusic 5 місяців тому +1

      Well jokes on you, 12TET is more out of tune than 31TET

  • @QuasiUnlimited
    @QuasiUnlimited Рік тому +6

    Actually 12TET chords sound much more out of tune to me, dull and muddy to the point that I can hardly listen to pure piano music, its that unpleasant. This sounded fine, almost clear.

  • @mortimyrrh
    @mortimyrrh Рік тому +1

    The change into bar 66 is magic!

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel Рік тому

      That’s a good one - hearing a B flat chord move to A sharp, which is only about 39
      cents 😊

  • @TentacleTerrorMusic
    @TentacleTerrorMusic 5 місяців тому

    3:37 i love this so much omfg

  • @Jeff_Leon
    @Jeff_Leon 8 місяців тому +1

    This is absolutely AMAZING!

  • @penguinlim
    @penguinlim 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the fact that my brain registers nothing 'wrong' with this is a testament to how much I do *not* have perfect pitch, hah.

  • @magicmonkey7075
    @magicmonkey7075 2 роки тому +3

    This piece of music makes my heart flutter tbh, like in a good way I mean

  • @seanfried5583
    @seanfried5583 11 місяців тому +1

    LOVE this. I listen to this over and over.

  • @paardenslager868
    @paardenslager868 3 роки тому +8

    Those chords in bar 97&98 make my brain tingle.

  • @mortalcoil1541
    @mortalcoil1541 2 роки тому +3

    This is surprising my brain, I don’t know how to describe what some of the microtones do but I get the same mental sensation whenever I hear something clearly chromatic

  • @Tiguiso
    @Tiguiso 3 роки тому +2

    3:22 how lovely a sound

  • @FreeTheUyghurs
    @FreeTheUyghurs 3 роки тому +50

    Thank you for capturing the vital braaaps in this piece.

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 3 роки тому +6

      You’re welcome! ☺️

    • @cobalt._.27
      @cobalt._.27 3 роки тому +2

      @@stephenweigel what is a braaap?

    • @jordanrutledge7943
      @jordanrutledge7943 3 роки тому +2

      It’s the sound of a fart which can also be heard in crunchy dissonant piano chords

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 2 роки тому +3

      @@jordanrutledge7943 no braaps exist in 12-TET unfortunately 😔

  • @bruhspenning
    @bruhspenning Рік тому +1

    As someone way to sensitive to things being out of tune, I find this way better than most pianos, because you can play your chords right, I hate that a "perfect fifth" is 2 cents from being in tune

    • @galoomba5559
      @galoomba5559 9 місяців тому +2

      The perfect fifth in 31edo is 5 cents off, way more than the 12edo one.

    • @TentacleTerrorMusic
      @TentacleTerrorMusic 5 місяців тому

      ​@@galoomba55595 cents are barely perceivable so it's ok, accounting it gets many more intervals closer

  • @user-uo8yh9tb8g
    @user-uo8yh9tb8g Рік тому +3

    This is really great, Mike--- Thanks for the upload... it's taking some ideas from the Tatum versions, so great arrangement by Stephan Weigel as well

  • @temoindubal
    @temoindubal Рік тому

    when you act happy but inside you have a deep sorrow

  • @ralphiegixenflargle
    @ralphiegixenflargle 3 роки тому +9

    Microtonal music always melts my brain

  • @hamueramusic
    @hamueramusic Рік тому +2

    ironically this is one of the most beautiful pieces I have ever heard

  • @alexhenderson3364
    @alexhenderson3364 3 роки тому +7

    Ok, but why does the Rast Tetrachord just sound so... Something. It tickles a part of my mind that I don't think I've touched before. I love it and will now look up all about it.

    • @samuelwilson818
      @samuelwilson818 3 роки тому +8

      it's neither major or minor, it takes a fourth and divides it into 4 equal intervals. Fascinating stuff when used melodically!!!

  • @BiggyJimbo
    @BiggyJimbo 11 місяців тому +1

    Just amazing. This really brightened my day - thank you!

  • @tinyguyandfriends6536
    @tinyguyandfriends6536 11 місяців тому +1

    My Brain as a classical musician and composer is trying to comprehend all the tones

  • @alanp741
    @alanp741 7 місяців тому +2

    The interesting thing is that 24 tet sounds abrasive meanwhile 31 tet is not. It gets to those microtonal notes without making it hard to listen to it

    • @Currywurst4444
      @Currywurst4444 Місяць тому

      12tet works well for fifths and thirds. 24tet doesn't add anything useful new to it. 31tet splits each whole step in 5 instead of 2 and is the lowest number of notes that adds well tuned sevenths.
      Additionally an important aspect of 12tet is that four fifths gives you a third. Or you could say that 2 whole steps make a third. This property is called meantone and is achieved by slightly flattening the fifth.
      31tet flattens the fifth a bit more. The fifth still sounds in tune, a third is still two whole steps and on top it is now perfectly in tune. But the most important part now is that a well tuned seventh is four whole steps instead of some fractional number.
      This means that 31tet basically gives you good sevenths for free. The only cost is that there are two different half steps now because 5 can't be split evenly.
      If you try to use even more notes than 31 to get finer intervals, this meantone strategy breaks down because then there are too many ways to modulate to reach a note. It just so happens that in 31te these higher intervals are exactly out of tune in such a way that it doesn't matter from where you approach them. Which is basically as good as you can do in that scenario.
      All of this is to say that 31tet naturally sounds good if you are used to 12tet despite using microtones.

  • @HearBetweenTheLines
    @HearBetweenTheLines 3 роки тому +17

    Awesome!! We need more microharmonic music and transcriptions of it!

    • @Sevish
      @Sevish Рік тому +2

      Well you guys are doing good work to make it happen!

  • @007bistromath
    @007bistromath Рік тому

    this kinda sounds like walking down the street on a nice summer day saying hi to everyone and their dog but you actually also have a banging headache

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 Рік тому

    1:29 Bass chromatically sliding B-B♭-A#-A. Possible in 19 or in 31 but not in 12.
    I liked that little bit of ambitious chord-changing at the end --- too bad we didn't get much.

  • @n7275
    @n7275 Рік тому +1

    Damn those harmonies'll rattle your teeth. Love it.

  • @figloalds
    @figloalds Місяць тому

    Interesting how a lot of people is calling this "out of tune", for 90%+ of this I don't have any feeling of "out of tune", everything is going nicely well with everything else, it just feels richer

  • @samdeman6007
    @samdeman6007 Рік тому +1

    To me it's the fact that this is transcribed moment of appreciation to my boy George

    • @fermata4425
      @fermata4425 Рік тому +3

      George actually credited Stephen Weigel for transcribing this. He has a lot of this sort of microtonal stuff on his own channel if you're interested!

  • @chadgetjajet7033
    @chadgetjajet7033 Рік тому +1

    Mike is out of the world

  • @blizzard_the_seal9863
    @blizzard_the_seal9863 Рік тому +1

    it literally sounds so normal this is wild bro omg… it literally just sounds like an old instrument that hasn’t been tuned in a while…… it literally sounds like the upright in my living room lmao

  • @tentothepowerof10
    @tentothepowerof10 2 місяці тому

    I love this type of music

  • @HA11EYS_COM3T
    @HA11EYS_COM3T Місяць тому

    Ugh it feels so right I love 31

  • @brown9671
    @brown9671 6 днів тому

    transcribing this is brutal

  • @JeiShian
    @JeiShian 3 роки тому +6

    Actually sounds pleasing and beautiful

  • @diabl2master
    @diabl2master Рік тому +1

    How did someone along the line during the making of this video decide we didn't want to see his hands? What the hell does his piano look like??? I MUST KNOW

  • @imrlyboredful
    @imrlyboredful 3 роки тому +21

    I can't decide if I love or hate this

    • @Graham_M
      @Graham_M 3 роки тому +9

      You know you love it

  • @seamtaro
    @seamtaro 3 роки тому +26

    Those microtones are giving me goosebumps.

  • @Eric08108
    @Eric08108 Рік тому +1

    GOOSEBUMPS

  • @charlottemarceau8062
    @charlottemarceau8062 Рік тому +1

    This is so effin' fresh ❤ (heard it yesterday)

  • @jasonruff1270
    @jasonruff1270 3 роки тому +4

    it's like the notes ring out more man this is beautiful!

  • @panpolypuff
    @panpolypuff 3 роки тому +3

    Gotta love the big finish with the muted bicycle bell 😂