luffy has haki he is using 3 haki in nika form and bonney dosent have this so she cant fight a admiral like luffy she is just a kid who a grownup give a tool to play but ppl are to stupid to see this thats why ODA is the genius
thanks for another great video. could you make a video on characters with the right devil fruits. (i personally cant thinks of many characters actually) but a character like Boa Hancock, her beauty definitely strengthens the effect of her devil fruit. Kaido to referring to his beast human form.
Ohara why don't you do a video where the title is what if lufffy trained with both devil fruit and hakil instead of just haki think of how interesting that would be?
I was really torn on this reveal, but after re-reading the kuma backstory I think this is great. Kuma was never truly free and the celestial dragons and World Gov. destroyed his life, so his daughter assuming the form of the hero who's stories he would tell her about being the embodiment of freedom is besutiful writing imo.
It fits the story but what i have problem with it and a lot of people do as well, is that we spend years reading and watching luffy adventure seeing him overcome obstacles, grow and inspire everyone around him for 1k chapter of manga and almost 1.1k episodes of anime and him achieving gear 5 joyboy felt like a reward for it and a sign he can finally stand up to big boys in the story (it has it problems too, like luffy is all about the freedom so is nika, but joyboy has a role to play which luffy would be against doing if he know etc but that side discussion, also it is a god form so that also has problems). On the other hand Bonney was barely around the story we havent spend much time with her most of her story was through retrospection and you can argue that her story was mostly about kuma not her as well. So the joyboy forms and luffy achieved feels cheapened when a newish character can just turn into joygirl like that. I think i would have no issue with that if it turned out to be that it was luffy power that mostly did that and her state of mind etc like a effort of both characters that would still be insane but better i think personally.
@@sgnox7781The issue imo is the way people like yourself interpret Bonney's power to begin with. She essentially perceives different realities and that becomes her ability temporarily. Here shes is copying Luffy's metric and idea of freedom to turn into this form. Her ability being a mimicry of sorts is just that and its limitations are decently written in stone. If anyone makes narrative sense to be joygirl it is absolutely Bonney as not only is she a child still but also one that was bred with the belief of Nika, which is tantamount to her father and her life. We can argue that her ability may be busted but considering it has a cd, and potentially permanent limitation post transformation (can't do it again, has she ever repeated a distorted future skill?) This really isn't an issue. None of Luffy's achievements are affected by Bonney copying or using him as a reference to perceive a new "future" reality. It's hard to say its not even earned imo. Narrative wise she makes the most sense. The WG tried to stop Nika from existing and ironically created a second one due to their actions.
@@rubykid15 Like i say i understand her power and narratively it make sense, but i have close to no emotyional connection to her as a viewer compared to luffy which we spent many years and houndreds of hours of following. I dont care about power scale aspect of it at all personally. Also luffy gear 5 for me is represenation of his journey and the man he become, someone else being able to do it someone we barely spend any time with doesnt feel right to me. I personally also dont really like her power since she can basicly become anything without doing the work others do( even though in this case you can argue she fits the image of joygirl, but again her whole story is just done through retrospection not houndreds of chapters that we experience also if narcisist had her power, since they believe they can do anything better then anyone, and be anything they wouldnmt have the limitations she has).
@@sgnox7781I think most people misunderstood her power. You said she can become anything without doing anything. Theoretically, yes. But she still needed to meet some conditions. This fruit has a really big weaknesses which also one of the condition she needs in order to transform. She need to fully believe she can become into that future otherwise her transformation will be incomplete. Even a bit of doubt can affect her power. That's why she can become Nika since she already has faith in him since the beginning. Now to the next condition. She also need a blueprint for that potential future. Before seeing Luffy's gear 5, all she does is just transform into gear 3. Saturn is aware of this and glad she hasn't seen Luffy's white form. So, in order to transform into that potential future, she also need to know what her form will looks like and what they capable of. She can't just imagine she has Kaido's fruit and somehow can transform into a dragon. No, she still need to see with her own eyes how Kaido looks like. Also, many people speculates that she can also copy haki. In my opinion, it's impossible to copy haki since haki is tied to the person will and spirit. It's like when Nami swapped body with Sanji. She doesn't use any haki when in his body (although you can argue that she doesn't know how to use it). So, Bonney can't just imagine where she has Roger's haki. Not only that this doesn't make sense since how does she has the same spirit as Roger, but also it's bad in narrative and power scaling side. I doubt Oda will write her like that.
And, this is specifically to your comment about revolution, he supported an intelligent revolution… for anyone who would take, admittedly a few to really grasp the concepts, study the French Revolution and compare to what we know of Dragons. Dragon wants to leave as much of the mechanism of the government and even Navy in place. Just working better… read up on Robespierre. He wanted to revolutionize everything. Metric was a way more expanded concept to days, time, and for the hell of it replacing every existing name for days, months, and whatnot… he wanted this perpetual revolution and sent so many to the head lopper… where did people send him again after he kept pushing and killing? Oh yeah… at some point you’ve already won the war kids.
She never said she wants to be nika, she just said she wants to be totally free and that became nika. I dont know why people are mad when it is the very thing that daddy kuma was FIGHTING FOR, revolution, freedom? And I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO REMEMBER. bonney had a sickness that she cant even see the SUN!! see what oda did there? Oda made her a literal SUN GOD and FREE
Luffy would turn into a little kid after using gear 2nd.. then he would turn into an old man after gear 5th. Imagine Imu was able to become joy girl, but as her future became limited, she could only imagine a future as an evil ruler lol. Then like Bonny can turn turn other people into an alternate future. IMU AWAKENED could give the power to turn the gorosei into demons
@@ItzPmacDoh44 i dont know how much you smoking but you should stop it hahaha. gear 3rd luffy maybe yeah he looks like a kid but gear 5th is just deflated exhausted luffy, well thats how the animators draw him after using gear 5th, just deflated and dimmer color. then the elders are definitely devil fruit users, if those are not df then who knows
When Bonney copying Luffy's ability in her flash back even before meet Luffy, and become bigger size when try to stopping Gorosei actually already spoiling but People really not read LOL
Is Bonney really broken? Momo has Kaido's devil fruit but he is not even close to his strength At the end of the day she doesn't have Luffy's haki so she is not even close That's just to show people that devil fruit powers are not enough
Not just haki she probably has a lot more limits than Luffy does she probably can't run on air like Luffy or or make her fist or body as big as Luffy since she isn't actually Nika more like an imitation
@@randobando8354 Bonney's power is to change her future appearance, but I don't that she can have the strength, remember that she herself said that she has stamina limitation so she can't become stronger, if she can then why she has stamina issues Remember that Kaido said "haki Trumps all"
@@Maxpain350 Plus we don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
Those of you who carry the letter "D." in your name. Among you there is *also a person who's name has been erased from history.* And their name was *Nefeltari D Lily.*
I love plot armors UA-cam channel! He literally just tells you what happens in the chapter and doesn’t write and essay in between everything that happens.
You can't say "No one saw coming" when this theory has been around for over half a year, if not longer. There's UA-cam Channels that have videos talking about this Theory way before it occurred.
Totally agree 100%. Her and Kuma's backstory already foreshadowed that theres a very big chance she can have a pseudo nika power, she just needs to see it personally. Im now doubting this page.
Bonnie did not become totally free until Luffy believed in her. Then, she realized and believed as she saw a future she could totally be free. The saddest part is we don't know if Kuma is seeing it or is he too lost to see it. Also, Bonnie is only this powerful because she is a kid. Have you ever played make believe games with kids? They are limitless. When you grow up, most lose unlimited imagination... hence why everyone isn't an artist in some type even in the past during the Renaissance.
You almost had it. Most don't lose unlimited imagination when they grow up. They develop a belief system on how the world works that is less maliable than their imagination. Bonnie's fruit is powered by her beliefs, so as soon as she developed her beliefs in how the world works, it effectively put a limit on her powers that is difficult to change. Meanwhile, Luffy's is truly unlimited and can change at any time, because imagination is unlimited and unrestricted. In other words, she can never surpass Luffy, because her beliefs would limit her. She can only equal him. After all, Luffy is the one who is the one who changed her beliefs by supporting her, and his growth has no limits, unlike her.
Your logic only work in real life . But in one piece world the older u get, u can see a lot of crazy powerful thing, like how many people creatively used their DF, and Bonney will copy that so easy, in One Piece world Bonney power will only get so much stronger as times goes by.
Looking at Bonney's Nika form I feel pretty certain that Oda just wanted to draw awakened Luffy with boobs. That's what she looks like in this form, Luffy with boobs.
so now we just need to see how well odas butt drawings have developed in egghead.. hes been training alot this arc so i guess the finale will be female luffy aka nika bonneys ass in giant form😂
@@Justin-oq3ng We can only dream of good looking women in One Piece with a nice and big booty, I do however not wish Bonney to be the one since she's 12. Although I doubt it'll ever happen since Japanese people love stick thin girls that has no shape with the sole exception being boobs.
Not really a fan of Bonney getting a Nika form to be honest. Yeah I understand she wants to be free etc but there's no denying this cheapens Gear 5 and screams Naruto giving chakra cloaks vibes.
Technically. She'd look similar to Goku and might even get Saiyan biology, but she won't be as strong as him or be able to replicate most of his techniques since they're skill-based. Even if she gets Super Saiyan off the bat, it'll just multiply her existing strength.
It isn't obvious it's not like the foreshadowing was there like Luffy using fire and summoning 4 arms it legit looked like just an aging fruit which is why people call it an ass pull
@@Re-Bourne How tf is that a race thing bro when Kuma isn’t her actual dad and just her father figure?? Please turn on your brain dude and stop trying to dictate Oda’s work
The thing is, it's as Saturn says it: it's only as powerful as how much the user can believe and diminishes as the user starts to stop believing in the possibility of that future Unfortunately for Saturn, people who are not so bright (like Bonny and Luffy) lacks the capability to stop believing in what's impossible
I have stop watching this video after he said: No one saw coming. Really? It's been foreshadow since Kuma's flashback, when Bonny used Gear 3 with her: give me a Nika'ish future.
The only way I can be OK with this is if Bonney has her own set of Nika moves & not just copying Luffy's! Much like how Sabo has his own set of moves & isn't using Ace's.
@@radaro.9682Think of Bonnie as Morph to Luffy's Mystique! Or, Elongated man to Plastic Man. There are examples within the One Piece world, eg.Oven's Heat Heat Fruit to Ace/Sabo's Flame Flame Fruit to Akainu Sakazzuki 's Magma Magma Fruit, Pika's Mountain Mountain Fruit to Avalo Pizzaro's Island Island Fruit, Monet's Snow Snow Fruit to Aokiji Kuzan's Ice Ice Fruit,Eneru's Blitz Blitz Fruit to Kizaru Borsalino's Bling Bling Fruit, Bon Clay's Copy Copy Fruit to Catarina Devon's Dog Dog Fruit: Model Ninetailed Fox, Chopper 's Human Human Fruit to Sengoku's Human Human Fruit: Model Daibotsu ( Bodhisattva), etc., essentially a weaker version of the same devil fruit abilities.😅
@@BAlex2209 "weaker" is just up to the user. Still gonna die on this hill. Flame as a concept has no real up temperature, depending on source of fuel. Ad Heat is the opposite of Aokiji's Cold fruit and both deal with concepts as opposed to specific elements. Iron is frozen at room temperature but the oxygen in the air freezes at much lower. Both of them should be the top of the heat/Cold fruit paths. Akainu should top out at roughly 1200° F and be easily meltable with both Oven and Sabo's fruits. The strength of Akainu's magma isn't its temperature. It's it's density. Having that much mass transfers a shit ton of energy when it hits and that's before the heat transfer coefficients start to come into play though. I can make an argument for a lot of these that looking at them as stronger or weaker versions of the fruit are wrong and that's only ever been talked about as distraction.
So... who here remembers the Straw Hat crew numbers theory? Remember the idea of Bonney sacrificing herself to save the crew? Remember whose Devil Fruit matched the remaining numbers in the theory? Now then... just who would Bonney getting captured give motivation to?
I love op but this was a Disney ahh chapter hopefully oda does good job explaining, why bonney could use awaken abilities from other people even tho she hasn’t even awaken her df yet.
there is also a different possibility: luffys awaked df allows not just to change the surrounding but also a person. over the whole story luffy believed in the dreams of his friends, maybe his true power is to let those dreams become true. And bonney is just used as a great foreshadowing, in the last fight she and luffy would be needed for some reason, she is kidnapped, no hope, just luffy doesnt wanna give up and suddenly everybody is transformed into nika and we find out it was never bonneys ability but luffys.
That's a really good point. No other Zoan types have shown any kind of physical manipulation like they did, even though, logically, any ancient Zoan should be able to. Page 1, Ulti, Drake, and Jack should all have been able to do that, but they didn't because they didn't imagine it
What if it's not Bonnie's power in itself, but Luffy exerting his own powers on Bonnie to allow her to reach a higher potential. Like Naruto sharing his Chakra with others.
Has Luffy ever refereed as the Nika form as gear 5th in canon? He believed he got to his strongest point however the more he learns, he may realize what 5th gear is and then bring it up a notch.
Slightly outlandish theory/idea here. What if D stood for Dreamer/Dreams/Dream? That the Dreamers were the original people able to manifest their wills, hopes, and dreams into reality. These were later turned into Fruits (on the OG Tree) or their dreams were manifested into the Fruits themselves. Thematically it makes sense. Thus anyone with a D in their name now has the inherent and or inherited Will to excel in the world and a closer attachment to their ultimate dream in life. (Which increases the D. individual's connection to their Devil Fruit due to being naturally more compatible.) This also explains why Haki would be the antithesis of Devil Fruits. It's one's Will coming into direct opposition to another's Dream. Willpower being the tangible to Dream's abstract.
@@Plaugus_Screenz In terms of raw strength maybe but I'm just wondering whether it can mimic the nebulous abilities of the fruit, like will she be able to manipulate the environment by herself like Luffy can in that form?
@@collecter343 maybie I say it is a coin toss so let's just do that to decide I will pick heads or tails you flip tell me what it landed on and that will be my bet
I really don’t like the facts she can go gear 5 for the simple fact it just makes luffy’s gear 5 seem less special or just easy to manipulate, it’s definitely giving debunking😭
The limitation is probably that she has no real experience with these abilities and also doesn't have the same strength of their original owners. For example, while she does have a Nika-like body right now she doesn't also have Luffy's raw strength or Haki. Luffy destroyed nearby buildings with Haki alone by entering Gear 5. Right now Bonnie just has enhanced physical abilities. She's just aping what she thinks it should be like.
I would love for bonnie to join the crew and be able to change her fights yhe. Like imagine her thinking of a future in which she trains with zero or ussopp. She can be a great sniper or swordsman
I know ill get crucified for this, but i really didn´t like Bonney becoming "joygirl" I´d rather would´ve had her powering up luffy or making someone older, idk now it feels like she is an absolute cheat code and all i could think about was "why does´nt she just imagine a future where she mauls her enemies everytime she is about to loose" since she apparently can do anything and the "options get smaller" thing doesn´t work either imo since she could just imagine being the strongest anyway i don´t know, oda probably has something planned to make it work out but for now I´m not really happy about it it just opens so many potential "plotholes" imo
I think the whole reason she can turn Nika-ish is cause of her familial devotion to Nika … I see no reason why she would simply be able to create earthquakes or mimic other powers.
We don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this form proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
@@collecter343 but what I’m saying is she can do these Nika-like attacks because she has sweet emotions about Nika. He’s literally her god. I don’t think she’d have as easy of a time imitating someone else.
I can not agree this is more powerful than Luffy's devil fruit. Beliefs require much more than creativity alone. That is the restriction. It also has a much greater drawback, because Beliefs can be influenced by outside forces, while creativity can't. Think about this. If Luffy faces a stronger opponent, he can always come up with a creative way to escape, no matter how absurd. He can also devise a creative way to be strong enough to beat them, no matter what he believes. Now let's compare to Bonnie. If she faces an opponent significantly stronger, she will never be able to escape from them, much less beat them. Her Belief on what is real is holding her back. Basically, while very powerful, the Nika fruit still surpasses that of Bonnie's. Bonnie's fruit is basically a Nika fruit with a limiter, that limiter being the user's understanding of the world. Meanwhile, Luffy's fruit doesn't care if things make sense to even the user. Just imagine it and it happens.
[4:40] now i realised. What if someone 200 years ago in one piece used in same way Boney's fruit and woke up that giant while being in the future form of the freest person in the world
Believing you can fight like Mike Tyson doesn't mean in the ring you can beat someone like Mike Tyson. Believing you have the great skills in fighting doesn't mean you have any skills at fighting. Bonny vs. Luffy is beliefs vs. reality. Binny believes she can be the Nika sun God, but luffy is the Nika sun God.
Luffy’s awakening makes him not anymore susceptible to drowning at sea, if Kuzan/Aokiji could turn the sea to ice before he is weakened by it then certainly luffy could turn his sea around him have the properties of rubber so he could bounce around the sea
Hi Ohara, vorab ich liebe dein Content! Durch deine ersten Hype Videos bin ich in diese ganze One Piece Theorien reingerutscht. Als Dank möchte ich dir was zurückgeben. Vielleicht ist dir diese kleine Bonney Theorie auch schon bekannt. Ich bin gestern darauf gestoßen, als ich mir die Nika Verwandlung gegen Lucci nochmals anschauen wollte, weil die Folge einfach geil ist. In dieser Folge sieht man nachdem Clash, dass Vegapunk Ruffy als weißen Krieger bezeichnet und seine Hypothese über Teufelsfrüchte mit den restlichen Strohhutmitgliedern teilt. Vegapunks Aussage: Alle dinge werden in diese Welt gebracht, weil sie begehrt werden! Zum Beispiel gilt das auch für die Teufelsfrüchte. Die teufelsfrüchte sind das Potenzial der Wünsche nach menschlicher Evolution! Sie zeigen das Verlangen auf, etwas zu werden, was man gesehen hat. All die Kräfte repräsentieren die verschiedenen Zukünfte der Menschheit! Und diese Unnatürlichkeit existiert mit der Strafe von Mutter Natur, dem Meer, verabscheut zu werden! Die teufelsfruchtnutzer sind diejenigen, die in verschiedenen Realitäten leben, die sich jemand ausgedacht hat! Das ist meine Hypothese! Man muss nicht darüber nachdenken, ob es einen Gott gibt oder nicht! Ist diese Welt nicht interessant?! Zitat Ende Ist das nicht seltsam? Vegapunks hypothese über die ENTSTEHUNG der Teufelsfrüchte, hat direkte Verbindung zu Bonneys Fähigkeiten. Sie kann verschiedene Zukünfte erschaffen, die nicht ihrer eigenen Realität entspricht, durch reine Imagination. "Etwas zu werden was man gesehen hat" nachdem sie Ruffy in Gear 5 gesehen hat, kann sie sich so eine Zukunft vorstellen. Kann es also sein, dass der/die Vorbesitzer/in sich eine Zukunft ausgedacht hat indem es Teufelsfrüchte gibt? Oder vielleicht sind alle Teufelsfruchtkräfte eine reine Vorstellung von diesem Vorbesitzer dieser TF? Oder wurde die Frucht von Bonney von der Weltregierung erschaffen? Vielleicht wollten sie eine Teufelsfrucht erstellen, welches die gleiche Fähigkeit besitzt, wie mit der Erschaffung der Teufelsfrüchte im Allgemeinen. "Vom Meer verabscheut zu werden" - wir finden Bonney in Egghead als aller Erstes in einem Strudel voll Meerwasser gefangen. Ich tue mir sehr schwer, von den Fakten der Verbindung von Vegapunks Hypothese und Bonneys Fähigkeiten, weitere Theorien rauszufischen. Aber Oda baut hier was krasses mit Bonney auf. Ihre Fähigkeiten und die Teufelfrüchte haben starke Verbindungen, vielleicht findest du mehr wie ich. Würde mich freuen, wenn ich dir mit dieser These weiterhelfen konnte 😊 Grüße Alphan
*Edit: nachdem ich dein Video zu Ende geschaut habe, sehe ich dass du dieses Thema angegangen bist. 😅 Natürlich warst du uns wieder ein Stück voraus. 😂 Nächstes Mal schaue ich das Video fertig, bevor ich kommentiere. Danke nochmals viele Male für deinen Content ❤
I am really surprised that blackbeard didn't try to take bonnys fruit, when he had her captured. For someone who has knowledge of devil fruits, it's a bit weird now, after this reveal
Personally i feel like oda never planned the whole nika thing. Now he is desperately trying to change things to make it seem like nika was always in the story
Actually now that you mention it, i can totally see Bonney giving Nika powers to all the Strawhats in a final battle against the Gorosei. It's like how Naruto shared his Kyuubi chakra with the entire allied shinobi forces
"Because in case you forgot, not sure how you did, but in case you forgot" I like hearing that phrase every chapter/theory video! I think it is iconic at this point. Videos without it make me wish it had it.
Years ago, I came up with a One Piece OC who specialized in Devil Fruit extracts. He thought of himself as the Michelangelo to Vegapunk's Da Vinci. One of his achievements was injecting a Devil Fruit with the substance of other fruits and plants, including previous hosts of Devil Fruit powers. (1 Fruit + 10 Devils = radioactive vessel, for example) I guess Oda had this idea brewing all along.
Oda was clever giving this fruit to Bonney. When you think about it, only a kid could put a fruit like this into full effect when theyre young and truly limitless.
The drawback seems quite obvious to me with is a timelimit. Everytime she's used it on Egghead it's for a short period of time and if you factor the gear 5 time limit too then she will less than Luffy does in gear 5 and will probably be knocked out as she doesn't have Luffy's crazy endurance
We got several chapters before that how Bonney uses distorted future to use gear 3 and literally saying: I imagine a Nika-ish future. GUY YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE TO BE SO SURPRISED 🤣🤣🤣
Make a Theory video on this The characters with their respective first letters after the "D" initial are: Monkey D. Luffy - L Monkey D. Garp - G Portgas D. Ace - A Portgas D. Rouge - R Gol D. Roger - R Gol D. Ace - A Marshall D. Teach (Blackbeard) - T Trafalgar D. Water Law - W Jaguar D. Saul - S Trafalgar D. Water Lammy - W Rocks D. Xebec - X Arranging these letters to find a significant word or phrase related to "One Piece" might be challenging as they don't form an obvious word directly. However, the letters can be grouped to suggest certain themes or concepts: Warlords: While not all letters match perfectly, the theme of powerful and influential characters in "One Piece" resonates with the idea of Warlords. Great War: "G," "R," "A," "T," and "W" suggest elements of a significant conflict, which ties into the overarching narrative of a great struggle involving the "Will of D."
isn't as broken as it might appear. She isn't actually Nika. She can just mimic it for a period of time. She won't be able to hold it for keeps like Luffy can by actually being Nika with the fruit. Bonney already said at one point her time is limited with that ability. So that right there capped her power limit using that ability. She won't be able to keep it up for long.
Plus we don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
This didn't come out of nowhere, we've had context and foreshadowing building toward this throughout the Egghead arc. It was actually completely obvious that it was possible for Bonney to do this. All she needed was a reason to believe in that future, and Luffy gave her that.
i lowkey dont like this. i liked it before when the all the nika focus and symbolism was on luffy, but when its taking away from him it kind of ruins it.
Many that had discussions when chapter 1101 and 1107 came out saw this coming(many OPtubers called it) not only was vegapunk does vegapunks devil fruit vauge origin theory refer to bonney but garp's philosophy to the marine instructor in 1088 does as well "the potential of youth is limitless" im curious to see what oda does from here
If she could easily transform and copy Nika then she could potentially become A dragon like momonuske and she could also copy Kuma’s Paw Paw fruit powers
Bonney joining the Strawhats would be perfect. Her powers are limited to what she believes in, and what does Luffy do? Make people around him believe anything's possible.
I believe the reason the "Giant robot" attacked mari geiose 200 years ago was because the past user of Bonneys fruit used it to turn into Nika, which caused the robot to awaken and wreak havoc on MG.
i dont like this fact because i thought luffy has a unique power that no devil fruit compare with it And im just not right that bonney is another sun god.😢
part of me think the limit of this ability is exactly as saturn said. as your future becomes more and more narrow the more clear it becomes. because a future where a person can flood the work wouldn’t make as much sense because(in their mind) how would they do that? you’d have to find a way to belief that you could actually flood the world, so you’d need an actual understanding o how to do it. if they had this fruit and it could do that thered be a very important someone locked in a room using it behind the scenes. also
You keep saying in this video no one saw it coming, but I feel like as soon as we heard about Distorted Future, most of the fandom came to this conclusion as a matter of when, rather than if. My predictions going forward are; - The iron giant will make the big save, allowing for an escape. Maybe it gets one or two words out about joyboy, but I expect Oda to give us it's internal monologue of regrets for not having the chance to talk longer with Luffy and Bonnie -When the iron giant comes out of the water, Vegapunks transmission will get one last big reveal in, but we will miss the D message due to the disruption. It'll likely be about the Elders - Imu will likely want to use the mother flame to use Uranus to destroy Elbaf. In the end it'll take both Nika's together to stop it, potentially leading to the theory that was floating around where Luffy will in some way consume the mother flame. For Bonnie, you may be able to see her powers as handing off a controller. You may be playing a top tier character, but if you don't know how to use it, there's only so much you can do on intuition alone. I think this for a few reasons, but primarily I just think it'd be fun to give her a training arc where she works with distorted futures to make learning easier. For example, she could produce a Swords Master future. That form would have muscle memory, but she may not gain the knowledge of that future. So using a form like that and then training with Zoro would give her actual understanding of those abilities. This would be especially fun because Luffy is known to be an awful teacher lmao. So yeah, these are my thoughts :3 Just wanted to put em out there.
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luffy has haki he is using 3 haki in nika form and bonney dosent have this so she cant fight a admiral like luffy she is just a kid who a grownup give a tool to play but ppl are to stupid to see this thats why ODA is the genius
thanks for another great video. could you make a video on characters with the right devil fruits. (i personally cant thinks of many characters actually) but a character like Boa Hancock, her beauty definitely strengthens the effect of her devil fruit. Kaido to referring to his beast human form.
Spyware bruv
Ohara why don't you do a video where the title is what if lufffy trained with both devil fruit and hakil instead of just haki think of how interesting that would be?
Luffy: fusion dance is next
Bonnie: NANI????
Nani?
@@so_aaronic means what
What?? @@zero1188
@@hiruyow8073 the meaning of Nani is the word 'what'
So the treasure of marie geois are the patora earrings? (Maybe they are patora strawhats😂)
Gorosei reacted like Nute GunRay...."This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!!!"
Nute Gunray callback has me crying
😂 Oh my God, it fits. 😆
🤣🤣😂😂
I'm dying over here!! Even said it in his voice😂😅
Once bonney asked kuma if nika would also make her free and now she is using a distorted future where she is the most free. Quite a development.
Luffy's alliance of absurdly strong kids
Of absurdly lucky kids who got their hands on the most broken devil fruits
@@crosis2 that makes them strong smartass
I was really torn on this reveal, but after re-reading the kuma backstory I think this is great. Kuma was never truly free and the celestial dragons and World Gov. destroyed his life, so his daughter assuming the form of the hero who's stories he would tell her about being the embodiment of freedom is besutiful writing imo.
It fits the story but what i have problem with it and a lot of people do as well, is that we spend years reading and watching luffy adventure seeing him overcome obstacles, grow and inspire everyone around him for 1k chapter of manga and almost 1.1k episodes of anime and him achieving gear 5 joyboy felt like a reward for it and a sign he can finally stand up to big boys in the story (it has it problems too, like luffy is all about the freedom so is nika, but joyboy has a role to play which luffy would be against doing if he know etc but that side discussion, also it is a god form so that also has problems). On the other hand Bonney was barely around the story we havent spend much time with her most of her story was through retrospection and you can argue that her story was mostly about kuma not her as well. So the joyboy forms and luffy achieved feels cheapened when a newish character can just turn into joygirl like that. I think i would have no issue with that if it turned out to be that it was luffy power that mostly did that and her state of mind etc like a effort of both characters that would still be insane but better i think personally.
@@sgnox7781The issue imo is the way people like yourself interpret Bonney's power to begin with. She essentially perceives different realities and that becomes her ability temporarily. Here shes is copying Luffy's metric and idea of freedom to turn into this form. Her ability being a mimicry of sorts is just that and its limitations are decently written in stone. If anyone makes narrative sense to be joygirl it is absolutely Bonney as not only is she a child still but also one that was bred with the belief of Nika, which is tantamount to her father and her life.
We can argue that her ability may be busted but considering it has a cd, and potentially permanent limitation post transformation (can't do it again, has she ever repeated a distorted future skill?) This really isn't an issue. None of Luffy's achievements are affected by Bonney copying or using him as a reference to perceive a new "future" reality.
It's hard to say its not even earned imo. Narrative wise she makes the most sense. The WG tried to stop Nika from existing and ironically created a second one due to their actions.
@@rubykid15 Like i say i understand her power and narratively it make sense, but i have close to no emotyional connection to her as a viewer compared to luffy which we spent many years and houndreds of hours of following. I dont care about power scale aspect of it at all personally.
Also luffy gear 5 for me is represenation of his journey and the man he become, someone else being able to do it someone we barely spend any time with doesnt feel right to me.
I personally also dont really like her power since she can basicly become anything without doing the work others do( even though in this case you can argue she fits the image of joygirl, but again her whole story is just done through retrospection not houndreds of chapters that we experience also if narcisist had her power, since they believe they can do anything better then anyone, and be anything they wouldnmt have the limitations she has).
@@sgnox7781I think most people misunderstood her power. You said she can become anything without doing anything. Theoretically, yes. But she still needed to meet some conditions. This fruit has a really big weaknesses which also one of the condition she needs in order to transform. She need to fully believe she can become into that future otherwise her transformation will be incomplete. Even a bit of doubt can affect her power. That's why she can become Nika since she already has faith in him since the beginning.
Now to the next condition. She also need a blueprint for that potential future. Before seeing Luffy's gear 5, all she does is just transform into gear 3. Saturn is aware of this and glad she hasn't seen Luffy's white form. So, in order to transform into that potential future, she also need to know what her form will looks like and what they capable of. She can't just imagine she has Kaido's fruit and somehow can transform into a dragon. No, she still need to see with her own eyes how Kaido looks like.
Also, many people speculates that she can also copy haki. In my opinion, it's impossible to copy haki since haki is tied to the person will and spirit. It's like when Nami swapped body with Sanji. She doesn't use any haki when in his body (although you can argue that she doesn't know how to use it). So, Bonney can't just imagine where she has Roger's haki. Not only that this doesn't make sense since how does she has the same spirit as Roger, but also it's bad in narrative and power scaling side. I doubt Oda will write her like that.
And, this is specifically to your comment about revolution, he supported an intelligent revolution… for anyone who would take, admittedly a few to really grasp the concepts, study the French Revolution and compare to what we know of Dragons. Dragon wants to leave as much of the mechanism of the government and even Navy in place. Just working better… read up on Robespierre. He wanted to revolutionize everything. Metric was a way more expanded concept to days, time, and for the hell of it replacing every existing name for days, months, and whatnot… he wanted this perpetual revolution and sent so many to the head lopper… where did people send him again after he kept pushing and killing? Oh yeah… at some point you’ve already won the war kids.
She never said she wants to be nika, she just said she wants to be totally free and that became nika. I dont know why people are mad when it is the very thing that daddy kuma was FIGHTING FOR, revolution, freedom? And I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO REMEMBER. bonney had a sickness that she cant even see the SUN!! see what oda did there? Oda made her a literal SUN GOD and FREE
Some one piece fans are really just idiots. The fandom is consists of 3 types, idiots, toxic and true fans
Main reason she turned into Nika form is because the only explanation Luffy gave for that form is that he looks like that when he's free.
@@collecter343 thats not how luffy looked when he said that, he was just a little bloated
Luffy would turn into a little kid after using gear 2nd.. then he would turn into an old man after gear 5th. Imagine Imu was able to become joy girl, but as her future became limited, she could only imagine a future as an evil ruler lol. Then like Bonny can turn turn other people into an alternate future. IMU AWAKENED could give the power to turn the gorosei into demons
@@ItzPmacDoh44 i dont know how much you smoking but you should stop it hahaha. gear 3rd luffy maybe yeah he looks like a kid but gear 5th is just deflated exhausted luffy, well thats how the animators draw him after using gear 5th, just deflated and dimmer color. then the elders are definitely devil fruit users, if those are not df then who knows
How can you say that no one saw this coming when people like RogersBase did 💀
Rogersbase reads the serious the correct way. He’s almost always right
When Bonney copying Luffy's ability in her flash back even before meet Luffy, and become bigger size when try to stopping Gorosei actually already spoiling but People really not read LOL
Never heard of RogersBase but thanks for the recommendation
King of Lightning saw it coming as well like 6 months back
so many ppl did see this comming lol
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"if bonney is a real nika"
bro wanted an excuse just to say it
Fr fr 💀
I just said this then scrolled thru the comments thinking someone else had to catch that 😂😅
agree
If only he said that about kuma 💀
@@paperchaser.jayyyy kuma is a real Nika
Bonny: “I want to become GOKU!”
Emu: “wait! That’s illegal!”
Impossible
*Meanwhile Goku* I heard u were strong
Is Bonney really broken?
Momo has Kaido's devil fruit but he is not even close to his strength
At the end of the day she doesn't have Luffy's haki so she is not even close
That's just to show people that devil fruit powers are not enough
Thank youuu buddy, I actually forgot about the haki 😑
Not just haki she probably has a lot more limits than Luffy does she probably can't run on air like Luffy or or make her fist or body as big as Luffy since she isn't actually Nika more like an imitation
How do you know she didn't use a timeline where she got luffys haki too 😂
@@randobando8354 Bonney's power is to change her future appearance, but I don't that she can have the strength, remember that she herself said that she has stamina limitation so she can't become stronger, if she can then why she has stamina issues
Remember that Kaido said "haki Trumps all"
@@Maxpain350 Plus we don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
Those of you who carry the letter "D." in your name. Among you there is *also a person who's name has been erased from history.* And their name was *Nefeltari D Lily.*
My name is Jacob D Ralph
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA
Is this the complete quote or are you theorizing?
I am loi D Forger
Idk if Vodafone would give us something we already know. Prolly something about blackbeards lineage
I love plot armors UA-cam channel! He literally just tells you what happens in the chapter and doesn’t write and essay in between everything that happens.
We got JoyGirl in One Piece before GTA 6
Fr like what the hell
And the most original comment award goes too…
😂😂😂😂😂 Joygirl
Its true though
that was vert good bro. nice comment
You can't say "No one saw coming" when this theory has been around for over half a year, if not longer. There's UA-cam Channels that have videos talking about this Theory way before it occurred.
What is the title for the theory video?
@@DhrobasScorbunny search roger base
@@DhrobasScorbunny King of Lightning and others too besides Roger like Pessi suggested.
@@SmaugUKAunknown ahh j
Totally agree 100%. Her and Kuma's backstory already foreshadowed that theres a very big chance she can have a pseudo nika power, she just needs to see it personally. Im now doubting this page.
Bonnie did not become totally free until Luffy believed in her. Then, she realized and believed as she saw a future she could totally be free. The saddest part is we don't know if Kuma is seeing it or is he too lost to see it. Also, Bonnie is only this powerful because she is a kid. Have you ever played make believe games with kids? They are limitless. When you grow up, most lose unlimited imagination... hence why everyone isn't an artist in some type even in the past during the Renaissance.
You watch Grandlinereview too, huh?
You don't have to be an artist to be imaginative
@@1001011011010 The big thing is the belief in the future, no matter how weird
You almost had it. Most don't lose unlimited imagination when they grow up. They develop a belief system on how the world works that is less maliable than their imagination. Bonnie's fruit is powered by her beliefs, so as soon as she developed her beliefs in how the world works, it effectively put a limit on her powers that is difficult to change.
Meanwhile, Luffy's is truly unlimited and can change at any time, because imagination is unlimited and unrestricted. In other words, she can never surpass Luffy, because her beliefs would limit her. She can only equal him. After all, Luffy is the one who is the one who changed her beliefs by supporting her, and his growth has no limits, unlike her.
Your logic only work in real life . But in one piece world the older u get, u can see a lot of crazy powerful thing, like how many people creatively used their DF, and Bonney will copy that so easy, in One Piece world Bonney power will only get so much stronger as times goes by.
he is literaly adding a non canon devil fruit in the story the kopi kopi no mi
The iron giant may have woken up and attacked Mary geoise because someone had bonney’s devil fruit and believed in nika
Oh shitttt that's a great idea
@@Pixel_Pixie_ and that's why it failed it wasn't the true infinite nika power source just a hopeful pale reflection
Looking at Bonney's Nika form I feel pretty certain that Oda just wanted to draw awakened Luffy with boobs. That's what she looks like in this form, Luffy with boobs.
Why that sounds plausible it would make a lot of tourist angry since she 12 years old.
so now we just need to see how well odas butt drawings have developed in egghead.. hes been training alot this arc so i guess the finale will be female luffy aka nika bonneys ass in giant form😂
@@Justin-oq3ng We can only dream of good looking women in One Piece with a nice and big booty, I do however not wish Bonney to be the one since she's 12. Although I doubt it'll ever happen since Japanese people love stick thin girls that has no shape with the sole exception being boobs.
Luffy finally found someone to match his freak 😅
Lol underrated comment
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That's crazy oda need to chill out with the broken abilities
We just saw the appearance of her and y'all acting like she can manipulate the physical objects around her like Luffy 💀
@@xp8343 yes she can because she copied gear 5 abilities
@@RolandStlouis How can you know that when she just changed her appearance so far 💀 Can you see the future?
@@RolandStlouis bruh Bonney's haki isn't as strong as Luffy, and it's gonna be perfect showdown why Haki is more important than Devil Fruit
its only broken if she is unlimited in its use and can do it at will the same level as Luffy can.
Not really a fan of Bonney getting a Nika form to be honest. Yeah I understand she wants to be free etc but there's no denying this cheapens Gear 5 and screams Naruto giving chakra cloaks vibes.
Isn’t it obvious that Bonny can do whatever she believes she can do?? Like… blatantly obvious. She should turn into Goku
Technically. She'd look similar to Goku and might even get Saiyan biology, but she won't be as strong as him or be able to replicate most of his techniques since they're skill-based. Even if she gets Super Saiyan off the bat, it'll just multiply her existing strength.
It isn't obvious it's not like the foreshadowing was there like Luffy using fire and summoning 4 arms it legit looked like just an aging fruit which is why people call it an ass pull
@@Re-Bourne so her becoming a buccaneer like Kuma wasn’t foreshadowing something other than aging?
@@FrescoRahbo that's not foreshadowing bro that's a race thing gosh I love one piece but Jesus you people 💀
@@Re-Bourne How tf is that a race thing bro when Kuma isn’t her actual dad and just her father figure?? Please turn on your brain dude and stop trying to dictate Oda’s work
The thing is, it's as Saturn says it: it's only as powerful as how much the user can believe and diminishes as the user starts to stop believing in the possibility of that future
Unfortunately for Saturn, people who are not so bright (like Bonny and Luffy) lacks the capability to stop believing in what's impossible
"That sign won't stop me because I can't read!"
@@fenrirlives2226exactly
I have stop watching this video after he said: No one saw coming. Really? It's been foreshadow since Kuma's flashback, when Bonny used Gear 3 with her: give me a Nika'ish future.
00:05 EVERYONE SAW IT COMING MAN HAHAHA. GIANT, TO BUCCANEER, OFCOURSE NIKA WAS NEXT HAHAHAB
His videos are so much detailed that it makes me tap my screen so hard when the notifications pops up 😅
Plot twist.
Bonnie's ability was the ACTUAL fruit of Joy Boy and Luffys fruit was just an extreme power the world government was trying to avoid.
The only way I can be OK with this is if Bonney has her own set of Nika moves & not just copying Luffy's! Much like how Sabo has his own set of moves & isn't using Ace's.
I can see Bonnie being much more 90s X-Men cartoon more than Loony Toons.
@@radaro.9682Think of Bonnie as Morph to Luffy's Mystique!
Or, Elongated man to Plastic Man.
There are examples within the One Piece world, eg.Oven's Heat Heat Fruit to Ace/Sabo's Flame Flame Fruit to Akainu Sakazzuki 's Magma Magma Fruit, Pika's Mountain Mountain Fruit to Avalo Pizzaro's Island Island Fruit, Monet's Snow Snow Fruit to Aokiji Kuzan's Ice Ice Fruit,Eneru's Blitz Blitz Fruit to Kizaru Borsalino's Bling Bling Fruit, Bon Clay's Copy Copy Fruit to Catarina Devon's Dog Dog Fruit: Model Ninetailed Fox, Chopper 's Human Human Fruit to Sengoku's Human Human Fruit: Model Daibotsu ( Bodhisattva), etc., essentially a weaker version of the same devil fruit abilities.😅
@@BAlex2209 "weaker" is just up to the user. Still gonna die on this hill. Flame as a concept has no real up temperature, depending on source of fuel. Ad Heat is the opposite of Aokiji's Cold fruit and both deal with concepts as opposed to specific elements. Iron is frozen at room temperature but the oxygen in the air freezes at much lower. Both of them should be the top of the heat/Cold fruit paths. Akainu should top out at roughly 1200° F and be easily meltable with both Oven and Sabo's fruits. The strength of Akainu's magma isn't its temperature. It's it's density. Having that much mass transfers a shit ton of energy when it hits and that's before the heat transfer coefficients start to come into play though.
I can make an argument for a lot of these that looking at them as stronger or weaker versions of the fruit are wrong and that's only ever been talked about as distraction.
At this point, Bonney might as well imagine herself in a future where she just has the One Piece.
So... who here remembers the Straw Hat crew numbers theory? Remember the idea of Bonney sacrificing herself to save the crew?
Remember whose Devil Fruit matched the remaining numbers in the theory? Now then... just who would Bonney getting captured give motivation to?
Dude really said „shanks so much for watching“
I love op but this was a Disney ahh chapter hopefully oda does good job explaining, why bonney could use awaken abilities from other people even tho she hasn’t even awaken her df yet.
0:08
"This mindblowing twist no one saw coming"
Brasilian youtubers: yeah, we've been talking abt this for a long time already
BB didn't know about this DF. Imagine this man with this DF as his third
there is also a different possibility:
luffys awaked df allows not just to change the surrounding but also a person. over the whole story luffy believed in the dreams of his friends, maybe his true power is to let those dreams become true.
And bonney is just used as a great foreshadowing, in the last fight she and luffy would be needed for some reason, she is kidnapped, no hope, just luffy doesnt wanna give up and suddenly everybody is transformed into nika and we find out it was never bonneys ability but luffys.
To be fair, King, Queen and Sasaki also come with new properties of DF with imagination
That's a really good point. No other Zoan types have shown any kind of physical manipulation like they did, even though, logically, any ancient Zoan should be able to. Page 1, Ulti, Drake, and Jack should all have been able to do that, but they didn't because they didn't imagine it
What if it's not Bonnie's power in itself, but Luffy exerting his own powers on Bonnie to allow her to reach a higher potential. Like Naruto sharing his Chakra with others.
Roger had shanks and buggy - Shanks had uta - Luffy will have Bonney on his crew.
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Has Luffy ever refereed as the Nika form as gear 5th in canon? He believed he got to his strongest point however the more he learns, he may realize what 5th gear is and then bring it up a notch.
Luffy is stupid and does not know what nika is he just call it gear5th
Slightly outlandish theory/idea here. What if D stood for Dreamer/Dreams/Dream? That the Dreamers were the original people able to manifest their wills, hopes, and dreams into reality. These were later turned into Fruits (on the OG Tree) or their dreams were manifested into the Fruits themselves. Thematically it makes sense. Thus anyone with a D in their name now has the inherent and or inherited Will to excel in the world and a closer attachment to their ultimate dream in life. (Which increases the D. individual's connection to their Devil Fruit due to being naturally more compatible.)
This also explains why Haki would be the antithesis of Devil Fruits. It's one's Will coming into direct opposition to another's Dream. Willpower being the tangible to Dream's abstract.
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@@xp8343 it does work dude 💀
Bruh shut up!!!🖕
I will let you keep 5he like I actually didn't now that
WTF SINCE WHEN?
Bonney is now sitting right up there with S tier powerful characters
i just hope this isnt some kind of love story beetween imu and Lily
@15:33 The Rumbling with Luffy and the Giants is killing me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
what if bonney's devil fruit was actually the one that woke up the giant that attacked the god's land 200 years ago? is that possible?
Maybe, depends on how totally she can mimic the Nika form.
@@collecter343it is probably not going to be a true mimic but let's just guess and ball park it around 50% just to be safe
@@Plaugus_Screenz In terms of raw strength maybe but I'm just wondering whether it can mimic the nebulous abilities of the fruit, like will she be able to manipulate the environment by herself like Luffy can in that form?
@@collecter343 maybie I say it is a coin toss so let's just do that to decide I will pick heads or tails you flip tell me what it landed on and that will be my bet
@@Plaugus_Screenz Heads
I really don’t like the facts she can go gear 5 for the simple fact it just makes luffy’s gear 5 seem less special or just easy to manipulate, it’s definitely giving debunking😭
She only did one attack (With Luffy, Sanji, Franky) and made Mars go flying and then she lost the form in Chapter 1119.
Tbh im not a big fan off this luffy taking 20 years just to get the most poweful transformation in hus life just to be stolen by some girl
> Oda: draws a line
> Ohara: ODA SENSEI JUST BROKE ONE PIECE
Double Nikas More Whacky And Craziness And Im All Here For It
The limitation is probably that she has no real experience with these abilities and also doesn't have the same strength of their original owners. For example, while she does have a Nika-like body right now she doesn't also have Luffy's raw strength or Haki. Luffy destroyed nearby buildings with Haki alone by entering Gear 5. Right now Bonnie just has enhanced physical abilities. She's just aping what she thinks it should be like.
I would love for bonnie to join the crew and be able to change her fights yhe. Like imagine her thinking of a future in which she trains with zero or ussopp. She can be a great sniper or swordsman
Can't Bonnie just believe she can find the one piece
Oda overcooked this time ....
I know ill get crucified for this, but i really didn´t like Bonney becoming "joygirl"
I´d rather would´ve had her powering up luffy or making someone older, idk
now it feels like she is an absolute cheat code and all i could think about was "why does´nt she just imagine a future where she mauls her enemies everytime she is about to loose" since she apparently can do anything
and the "options get smaller" thing doesn´t work either imo since she could just imagine being the strongest anyway
i don´t know, oda probably has something planned to make it work out but for now I´m not really happy about it
it just opens so many potential "plotholes" imo
also
if it´s limited by imagination, just give the devil fruit to the most delusional person you can find and it´s over
I think the whole reason she can turn Nika-ish is cause of her familial devotion to Nika … I see no reason why she would simply be able to create earthquakes or mimic other powers.
We don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this form proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
@@collecter343 but what I’m saying is she can do these Nika-like attacks because she has sweet emotions about Nika. He’s literally her god. I don’t think she’d have as easy of a time imitating someone else.
I can not agree this is more powerful than Luffy's devil fruit. Beliefs require much more than creativity alone. That is the restriction. It also has a much greater drawback, because Beliefs can be influenced by outside forces, while creativity can't.
Think about this. If Luffy faces a stronger opponent, he can always come up with a creative way to escape, no matter how absurd. He can also devise a creative way to be strong enough to beat them, no matter what he believes.
Now let's compare to Bonnie. If she faces an opponent significantly stronger, she will never be able to escape from them, much less beat them. Her Belief on what is real is holding her back.
Basically, while very powerful, the Nika fruit still surpasses that of Bonnie's. Bonnie's fruit is basically a Nika fruit with a limiter, that limiter being the user's understanding of the world. Meanwhile, Luffy's fruit doesn't care if things make sense to even the user. Just imagine it and it happens.
[4:40] now i realised. What if someone 200 years ago in one piece used in same way Boney's fruit and woke up that giant while being in the future form of the freest person in the world
Believing you can fight like Mike Tyson doesn't mean in the ring you can beat someone like Mike Tyson.
Believing you have the great skills in fighting doesn't mean you have any skills at fighting.
Bonny vs. Luffy is beliefs vs. reality.
Binny believes she can be the Nika sun God, but luffy is the Nika sun God.
Luffy’s awakening makes him not anymore susceptible to drowning at sea, if Kuzan/Aokiji could turn the sea to ice before he is weakened by it then certainly luffy could turn his sea around him have the properties of rubber so he could bounce around the sea
I'm officially coining Bonnie's Devilfruit as the: "GG Know Me".
Hi Ohara, vorab ich liebe dein Content! Durch deine ersten Hype Videos bin ich in diese ganze One Piece Theorien reingerutscht. Als Dank möchte ich dir was zurückgeben. Vielleicht ist dir diese kleine Bonney Theorie auch schon bekannt.
Ich bin gestern darauf gestoßen, als ich mir die Nika Verwandlung gegen Lucci nochmals anschauen wollte, weil die Folge einfach geil ist. In dieser Folge sieht man nachdem Clash, dass Vegapunk Ruffy als weißen Krieger bezeichnet und seine Hypothese über Teufelsfrüchte mit den restlichen Strohhutmitgliedern teilt.
Vegapunks Aussage: Alle dinge werden in diese Welt gebracht, weil sie begehrt werden! Zum Beispiel gilt das auch für die Teufelsfrüchte. Die teufelsfrüchte sind das Potenzial der Wünsche nach menschlicher Evolution! Sie zeigen das Verlangen auf, etwas zu werden, was man gesehen hat. All die Kräfte repräsentieren die verschiedenen Zukünfte der Menschheit! Und diese Unnatürlichkeit existiert mit der Strafe von Mutter Natur, dem Meer, verabscheut zu werden! Die teufelsfruchtnutzer sind diejenigen, die in verschiedenen Realitäten leben, die sich jemand ausgedacht hat! Das ist meine Hypothese! Man muss nicht darüber nachdenken, ob es einen Gott gibt oder nicht! Ist diese Welt nicht interessant?!
Zitat Ende
Ist das nicht seltsam? Vegapunks hypothese über die ENTSTEHUNG der Teufelsfrüchte, hat direkte Verbindung zu Bonneys Fähigkeiten. Sie kann verschiedene Zukünfte erschaffen, die nicht ihrer eigenen Realität entspricht, durch reine Imagination. "Etwas zu werden was man gesehen hat" nachdem sie Ruffy in Gear 5 gesehen hat, kann sie sich so eine Zukunft vorstellen.
Kann es also sein, dass der/die Vorbesitzer/in sich eine Zukunft ausgedacht hat indem es Teufelsfrüchte gibt? Oder vielleicht sind alle Teufelsfruchtkräfte eine reine Vorstellung von diesem Vorbesitzer dieser TF?
Oder wurde die Frucht von Bonney von der Weltregierung erschaffen? Vielleicht wollten sie eine Teufelsfrucht erstellen, welches die gleiche Fähigkeit besitzt, wie mit der Erschaffung der Teufelsfrüchte im Allgemeinen. "Vom Meer verabscheut zu werden" - wir finden Bonney in Egghead als aller Erstes in einem Strudel voll Meerwasser gefangen.
Ich tue mir sehr schwer, von den Fakten der Verbindung von Vegapunks Hypothese und Bonneys Fähigkeiten, weitere Theorien rauszufischen. Aber Oda baut hier was krasses mit Bonney auf. Ihre Fähigkeiten und die Teufelfrüchte haben starke Verbindungen, vielleicht findest du mehr wie ich. Würde mich freuen, wenn ich dir mit dieser These weiterhelfen konnte 😊
Grüße Alphan
*Edit: nachdem ich dein Video zu Ende geschaut habe, sehe ich dass du dieses Thema angegangen bist. 😅 Natürlich warst du uns wieder ein Stück voraus. 😂
Nächstes Mal schaue ich das Video fertig, bevor ich kommentiere. Danke nochmals viele Male für deinen Content ❤
that opera GX sponsor segment was slick im ngl
had to watch it
People would be outraged and Oda would be severly hated if he decided to kill off luffy after 20 years
I am really surprised that blackbeard didn't try to take bonnys fruit, when he had her captured.
For someone who has knowledge of devil fruits, it's a bit weird now, after this reveal
Personally i feel like oda never planned the whole nika thing. Now he is desperately trying to change things to make it seem like nika was always in the story
10:03 The first fire devil fruit user, Ace be like do you think I don't exist 🙂👍
I feel like specifically those with the letter "D" can cause the "D"rums of Liberation. Luffy just happened to unlock it first in this era
Actually now that you mention it, i can totally see Bonney giving Nika powers to all the Strawhats in a final battle against the Gorosei. It's like how Naruto shared his Kyuubi chakra with the entire allied shinobi forces
"Because in case you forgot, not sure how you did, but in case you forgot"
I like hearing that phrase every chapter/theory video! I think it is iconic at this point. Videos without it make me wish it had it.
Bonney should never have been giving this opportunity to imitate sun god awakening button
I don’t like the fact that now the Luffy is not the only person with nika powers,it feels kind Of underwhelming and it makes it feel not special
Years ago, I came up with a One Piece OC who specialized in Devil Fruit extracts. He thought of himself as the Michelangelo to Vegapunk's Da Vinci. One of his achievements was injecting a Devil Fruit with the substance of other fruits and plants, including previous hosts of Devil Fruit powers. (1 Fruit + 10 Devils = radioactive vessel, for example)
I guess Oda had this idea brewing all along.
Oda was clever giving this fruit to Bonney. When you think about it, only a kid could put a fruit like this into full effect when theyre young and truly limitless.
The drawback seems quite obvious to me with is a timelimit. Everytime she's used it on Egghead it's for a short period of time and if you factor the gear 5 time limit too then she will less than Luffy does in gear 5 and will probably be knocked out as she doesn't have Luffy's crazy endurance
Ice Bonney, Lava Bonney, Darkness Bonney, Immortal Bonney, the possibilities are limitless
Ohara should make a video that recaps and discusses the entire Egghead Arc just like he did with Wano
i dont think bonney has drums of liberation bc drums of liberation are from joyboy and bonney imagined she had the same powers as luffy not joyboy
We got several chapters before that how Bonney uses distorted future to use gear 3 and literally saying: I imagine a Nika-ish future.
GUY YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE TO BE SO SURPRISED 🤣🤣🤣
hear me out nika is contagious also my theory of fruits being based on will power and imagination is still going
Make a Theory video on this
The characters with their respective first letters after the "D" initial are:
Monkey D. Luffy - L
Monkey D. Garp - G
Portgas D. Ace - A
Portgas D. Rouge - R
Gol D. Roger - R
Gol D. Ace - A
Marshall D. Teach (Blackbeard) - T
Trafalgar D. Water Law - W
Jaguar D. Saul - S
Trafalgar D. Water Lammy - W
Rocks D. Xebec - X
Arranging these letters to find a significant word or phrase related to "One Piece" might be challenging as they don't form an obvious word directly. However, the letters can be grouped to suggest certain themes or concepts:
Warlords: While not all letters match perfectly, the theme of powerful and influential characters in "One Piece" resonates with the idea of Warlords.
Great War: "G," "R," "A," "T," and "W" suggest elements of a significant conflict, which ties into the overarching narrative of a great struggle involving the "Will of D."
Really loved that development. One of the best plot twists One Piece has had in a long time.
I miss your in-depth videos about a specific One Piece character: like those that you did for Katakuri, Doffy, etc.
isn't as broken as it might appear. She isn't actually Nika. She can just mimic it for a period of time. She won't be able to hold it for keeps like Luffy can by actually being Nika with the fruit. Bonney already said at one point her time is limited with that ability. So that right there capped her power limit using that ability. She won't be able to keep it up for long.
Plus we don't know whether she can affect the environment like Luffy can in G5. People say this proves she can copy devil fruits but this form proves nothing other than she can mimic certain fruits to a degree.
BONNIE TURN YAMATO INTO ODIN MID FIGHT WOULD BE TOP TIER
This didn't come out of nowhere, we've had context and foreshadowing building toward this throughout the Egghead arc. It was actually completely obvious that it was possible for Bonney to do this. All she needed was a reason to believe in that future, and Luffy gave her that.
There are some terminally ill people in the world who knew how One Piece ends , Oda goes to hospitals to visit fans alot
i lowkey dont like this. i liked it before when the all the nika focus and symbolism was on luffy, but when its taking away from him it kind of ruins it.
Many that had discussions when chapter 1101 and 1107 came out saw this coming(many OPtubers called it) not only was vegapunk does vegapunks devil fruit vauge origin theory refer to bonney but garp's philosophy to the marine instructor in 1088 does as well "the potential of youth is limitless" im curious to see what oda does from here
We know they weren’t trying to mass produce Bonnie’s fruit specifically because Saturn called it a useless fruit
If she could easily transform and copy Nika then she could potentially become A dragon like momonuske and she could also copy Kuma’s Paw Paw fruit powers
10:52 ive been saying this exact same thing ever since thos chapter dropped. the Og Og fruit lol exactly im so happy
Bonnie's not joining and theres probably a restriction on it like she can use one time or something like that
Bonney joining the Strawhats would be perfect. Her powers are limited to what she believes in, and what does Luffy do? Make people around him believe anything's possible.
Imagining an Awakened Bonney in the final battle saying "Give *us* a future where we're totally free" and the whole crew gets Nika forms
That would be bad writing
@@Leonkennedy19992 Okay
Perona is Bonney’s weakness
I believe the reason the "Giant robot" attacked mari geiose 200 years ago was because the past user of Bonneys fruit used it to turn into Nika, which caused the robot to awaken and wreak havoc on MG.
i dont like this fact because i thought luffy has a unique power that no devil fruit compare with it And im just not right that bonney is another sun god.😢
part of me think the limit of this ability is exactly as saturn said. as your future becomes more and more narrow the more clear it becomes. because a future where a person can flood the work wouldn’t make as much sense because(in their mind) how would they do that? you’d have to find a way to belief that you could actually flood the world, so you’d need an actual understanding o how to do it. if they had this fruit and it could do that thered be a very important someone locked in a room using it behind the scenes. also
You keep saying in this video no one saw it coming, but I feel like as soon as we heard about Distorted Future, most of the fandom came to this conclusion as a matter of when, rather than if.
My predictions going forward are;
- The iron giant will make the big save, allowing for an escape. Maybe it gets one or two words out about joyboy, but I expect Oda to give us it's internal monologue of regrets for not having the chance to talk longer with Luffy and Bonnie
-When the iron giant comes out of the water, Vegapunks transmission will get one last big reveal in, but we will miss the D message due to the disruption. It'll likely be about the Elders
- Imu will likely want to use the mother flame to use Uranus to destroy Elbaf. In the end it'll take both Nika's together to stop it, potentially leading to the theory that was floating around where Luffy will in some way consume the mother flame.
For Bonnie, you may be able to see her powers as handing off a controller. You may be playing a top tier character, but if you don't know how to use it, there's only so much you can do on intuition alone. I think this for a few reasons, but primarily I just think it'd be fun to give her a training arc where she works with distorted futures to make learning easier. For example, she could produce a Swords Master future. That form would have muscle memory, but she may not gain the knowledge of that future. So using a form like that and then training with Zoro would give her actual understanding of those abilities. This would be especially fun because Luffy is known to be an awful teacher lmao.
So yeah, these are my thoughts :3 Just wanted to put em out there.