ORWO is a legend in east Europe. Old color photos from 70s and 80s has strong redish tilt in shadows. If ORWO produced films like those from the Cold War, they would play on people's nostalgia.
yeah, i prefer to think of it as c41 compatible soviet film, all those drab colors are something to look at as a positive, it's depressed, it's "goth film"
Those old films might not easily, or at all, reproducible nowadays. The new Orwo stocks are old movie film recipes from Agfa, created before they went bankrupt. It's not original Orwo. It was developed in Western Germany after Agfa was already split into Agfa and Orwo
Fellow PDXer here. Odd to think it's "early days" for three totally different color film stocks. Plus, I have this intense hope that with new Japanese film cameras coming out this year,, Fuji will crank up the presses for new or throwback film stocks, too. Costs are coming down. Supply chains are opening up. UA-cam and the Gram are filling up with film photography process videos. It's getting easier and easier to live in any era you want, if only for a few minutes a day.
The photo at 5:33 it's just one of the best I've seen in years, somehow it triggers my underground film photography neuron more than the others. Bravo!!🎉
I'm glad you mentioned ORWO's shitty customer service. I was one of the people who preordered from them and was rewarded with a several month wait after the film became available at every single photo shop in North America. I've shot some of the rolls I bought, but I guarantee I will never buy another roll of film from them.
I actually love NC400. In my experience it works best overexposed a stop and developed as normal, which helps get more dynamic range in the shadows. The colours are hard to balance at first, but once you get a hang of it, you can get it to look pretty "normal" with its own twist. IMO it's a beautiful film for gritty street photography, and currently it goes for cheaper than Portra on B&H so it's certainly a good option to have around.
Opening comment was funny to see, coincidently timed with my recent video about rebranded film stocks. Really interesting to see how different processing worked for different things. I found a couple of the BB and E6 shots to be much cleaner than regular development.
Well to nuance the picture of Orwo's customer service, I ordered from their website, got my films fast (2 days) and they included a bonus film like a freebee, no mentioning of it at all. I had a trackingnumber just 30-40 min after ordering. I don't have any complaints about that.
I'm honestly glad for this film and NC500- despite the 400 ISO, I'm happy there's finally a grainy color film back on the market. granted, last year I ordered 16mm NC500 for my senior project, and it took like three months to arrive- fortunately, I got it right before my shoot. and then I flashed one of the rolls...
I've only tested NC500, but I personally like it, more than Phoenix 200 and maybe even ColorMission 200. Yes, I'm one of the people who preordered directly from ORWO and got my order half a year after it had hit the shelves. Will definitely buy from a retailer next time.
The Orwo films are much more mature compared to Adox's and Harman's. It's a modernized recipe of old Agfa motion picture stock without a Remjet layer. I guess they snacked the patent when Agfa went bankrupt. NC500 is famously known for being essentially the same film that Out of Africa was shot on. I was seriously surprised by how close the colors came to the movie's right after inverting it in NLP, even before applying any corrections whatsoever.
The colors remind me of ORWO films back in the day, when they were first around. They had the most basic recipe you can get away with in making color film.
I hope somebody already told this to you, but you have a beautifully fried brain, and I love it (coming here from the "Developing film in pure Rodinal" video)
ORWO is selling the film directly because they already have most of the stuff they need for that. For people in Germany they also offer an Mail-in Film Lab and they do the B&W Development for most German Drugstores.
I tested that stock, but it's sold under a different name in Japan and Taiwan, Vetrokam, but it's their cinema film respooled into rolls of 27 exposures, so it's more like NC500 than NC400. I like it, but my lab crank the contrast and saturation, so it looks horrible. I love how the green and reds are tamed when properly scanned.
You should redscale it. I was pleased with the results I created that way. It resulted in more yellow/orange almost brownish pictures. I liked it a lot. :)
I had experience with the nc500, which may be similar? Fun film tho I was traveling in the Netherlands and had to buy film to keep shooting. I grabbed whatever was on the shelf which was a nc500 “limited edition”. It was only my third role of film to shoot (I’m new to all this) and I also thought it had asa of 500. But it was a pleasant surprise when I had it developed. Mostly green, but has majestic oranges when shooting sunsets.
Shot a roll of this pushed +1 stop, and I got some craaaazy results, weird light leaky negatives, odd blue specking on some shots that were less exposed. Seen some other sample shots that somewhat resembled my results, and I settled on the fact it might have been part of a defective batch of film... Overall though not a huge fan so far, let's see if they can work on it and give us some more stable and usable color film.
dad attic darkroom is here bois EDIT: I DID NOT WATCH THE VID BEFORE CALLING HIM DAD. YOU READ MY MIND LMAO also tbh i actually vibe with the color of cross process, and last bit. HEY YOU DIDN'T TRICHROME.
Shot it recently and thought the results were dope. The shadows fall off rapidly and the colors are muted. It's got character, although I could use a little less grain. How about pulling the film next time ?
No Trichrome that was stand developed in rodinal? Given the FilmoTec/ORWO and InovisCoat AGFA history this would have been a perfect use of more of that vintage rodinal.
I really like their NC400, less so NC500. I preordered about 6 rolls of NC500 originally and yeah it took a very long time which was crap, although it was when covid was in full swing. That said more recently they are saying their more ontop of it. I tested that by ordered 5 or 6 rolls of P400 from them and to my suprise it shipped in a few days, and I got my film very fast. I saw some people really raging about missing orders who then would not give their order numbers when asked by ORWO so there is likely a mixture in whats going on. They've always been responsive to my emails etc.
Honestly, even if you don't care about your customers, bad customer service is just bad business. ESPECIALLY when you're in a market where customers have a lot of other options.
attic darkroom be like: pushing 4x5 Aerochrome 3 stops and dev in b&w chemicals
And then trichrome it
Dev in 100 yo Rodinal diluted in boiling sprite©
Always a good day when attic darkroom uploads another vid
A good month 😂
ORWO is a legend in east Europe. Old color photos from 70s and 80s has strong redish tilt in shadows. If ORWO produced films like those from the Cold War, they would play on people's nostalgia.
yeah, i prefer to think of it as c41 compatible soviet film, all those drab colors are something to look at as a positive, it's depressed, it's "goth film"
Those old films might not easily, or at all, reproducible nowadays.
The new Orwo stocks are old movie film recipes from Agfa, created before they went bankrupt. It's not original Orwo. It was developed in Western Germany after Agfa was already split into Agfa and Orwo
The trucks at 5:09 are really cool
MOM!!! MOM WAKE UP!! ATTIC DARKROOM POSTED!!!!!
shots at 5:09 and 5:11 are an absolute treat to my eyes
I don't know if it's because of his self-proclaimed useless art degree or just boring genetics, but he has a really good eye for these kinds of shots
The fog photos looks good, too
Fellow PDXer here. Odd to think it's "early days" for three totally different color film stocks. Plus, I have this intense hope that with new Japanese film cameras coming out this year,, Fuji will crank up the presses for new or throwback film stocks, too. Costs are coming down. Supply chains are opening up. UA-cam and the Gram are filling up with film photography process videos. It's getting easier and easier to live in any era you want, if only for a few minutes a day.
The photo at 5:33 it's just one of the best I've seen in years, somehow it triggers my underground film photography neuron more than the others. Bravo!!🎉
WWWOOOOOHHOOOO finally another upload!
babe wake up my favourite UA-camr just uploaded
so wild how low key your channel is when you make the best film content on yt
Yo the pipe and parking garage shots on the baked roll were a vibe, it’s giving pnw grunge band album cover
Oh hell yeah, Dad's back!
I'm glad you mentioned ORWO's shitty customer service. I was one of the people who preordered from them and was rewarded with a several month wait after the film became available at every single photo shop in North America. I've shot some of the rolls I bought, but I guarantee I will never buy another roll of film from them.
driving in my car when I got the UA-cam notification that you uploaded and went "yesss!!!" out loud lol
I actually love NC400. In my experience it works best overexposed a stop and developed as normal, which helps get more dynamic range in the shadows. The colours are hard to balance at first, but once you get a hang of it, you can get it to look pretty "normal" with its own twist. IMO it's a beautiful film for gritty street photography, and currently it goes for cheaper than Portra on B&H so it's certainly a good option to have around.
Opening comment was funny to see, coincidently timed with my recent video about rebranded film stocks.
Really interesting to see how different processing worked for different things. I found a couple of the BB and E6 shots to be much cleaner than regular development.
Well to nuance the picture of Orwo's customer service, I ordered from their website, got my films fast (2 days) and they included a bonus film like a freebee, no mentioning of it at all. I had a trackingnumber just 30-40 min after ordering. I don't have any complaints about that.
I'm honestly glad for this film and NC500- despite the 400 ISO, I'm happy there's finally a grainy color film back on the market. granted, last year I ordered 16mm NC500 for my senior project, and it took like three months to arrive- fortunately, I got it right before my shoot.
and then I flashed one of the rolls...
Great Video! Your photography keeps getting better too!
I hope to one day be able to afford colour film again lol
Great photos on this video really satisfying and also inspiring in a weird way
I've only tested NC500, but I personally like it, more than Phoenix 200 and maybe even ColorMission 200. Yes, I'm one of the people who preordered directly from ORWO and got my order half a year after it had hit the shelves. Will definitely buy from a retailer next time.
The Orwo films are much more mature compared to Adox's and Harman's. It's a modernized recipe of old Agfa motion picture stock without a Remjet layer. I guess they snacked the patent when Agfa went bankrupt. NC500 is famously known for being essentially the same film that Out of Africa was shot on. I was seriously surprised by how close the colors came to the movie's right after inverting it in NLP, even before applying any corrections whatsoever.
Hai dad! 😂
Thanks for the upload, always a good day when you post some in depth film cremation
The colors remind me of ORWO films back in the day, when they were first around. They had the most basic recipe you can get away with in making color film.
I hope somebody already told this to you, but you have a beautifully fried brain, and I love it (coming here from the "Developing film in pure Rodinal" video)
Film aside, the pics you took with it in this video are especially nice!
the green cast on the 3 stop push reminded me of the background work for the anime Copellion, which also had A Look
ORWO is selling the film directly because they already have most of the stuff they need for that. For people in Germany they also offer an Mail-in Film Lab and they do the B&W Development for most German Drugstores.
this might be the film that gets me into film photography bc it looks exactly like the faded photos of bagels in a breuggers i imprinted on at age 6
I tested that stock, but it's sold under a different name in Japan and Taiwan, Vetrokam, but it's their cinema film respooled into rolls of 27 exposures, so it's more like NC500 than NC400.
I like it, but my lab crank the contrast and saturation, so it looks horrible.
I love how the green and reds are tamed when properly scanned.
You should redscale it. I was pleased with the results I created that way. It resulted in more yellow/orange almost brownish pictures. I liked it a lot. :)
I had experience with the nc500, which may be similar? Fun film tho
I was traveling in the Netherlands and had to buy film to keep shooting. I grabbed whatever was on the shelf which was a nc500 “limited edition”. It was only my third role of film to shoot (I’m new to all this) and I also thought it had asa of 500.
But it was a pleasant surprise when I had it developed. Mostly green, but has majestic oranges when shooting sunsets.
the +3 push looked cool. like d3200 pushed type gravelgrain, but in colour. orwo has potential.
X-Men 97 is good. But this channel is really good
I’ve been really tempted to try this in 16mm, since it’s cheaper than Vision3 stock, but I think it’d have to be for a very specific kind of scene.
Shot a roll of this pushed +1 stop, and I got some craaaazy results, weird light leaky negatives, odd blue specking on some shots that were less exposed. Seen some other sample shots that somewhat resembled my results, and I settled on the fact it might have been part of a defective batch of film... Overall though not a huge fan so far, let's see if they can work on it and give us some more stable and usable color film.
dad attic darkroom is here bois
EDIT: I DID NOT WATCH THE VID BEFORE CALLING HIM DAD. YOU READ MY MIND LMAO
also tbh i actually vibe with the color of cross process, and last bit. HEY YOU DIDN'T TRICHROME.
The parking lot shots look like some 90s movies
Metropolis is probably an early version of NC500. The base color seam much more similar.
I wonder about their NC500 Colour Cine
😊 nice
So overdevelop + bleach bypass is the way to go?
Shot it recently and thought the results were dope. The shadows fall off rapidly and the colors are muted. It's got character, although I could use a little less grain. How about pulling the film next time ?
No Trichrome that was stand developed in rodinal? Given the FilmoTec/ORWO and InovisCoat AGFA history this would have been a perfect use of more of that vintage rodinal.
attic dadroom
alright fine i’ll order some developing supplies that have been sitting in my BnH cart since october
Dad...?
Hmm, so maybe that's where I've gotten my random appreciation for antiquated photography?
I like it 😃 🤣 over cooked!!! 😅😅😅 love the ending
Video prediction: he trichromes it. Ill update if i was right or wrong.
Big sad no trichrome, loved the video though!
4:24 Tony Hawk Toddler skater ❤
How are you sometimes getting color on older b&w film stocks? Our are they color ones?
the cross ones I liked best
I really like their NC400, less so NC500. I preordered about 6 rolls of NC500 originally and yeah it took a very long time which was crap, although it was when covid was in full swing. That said more recently they are saying their more ontop of it. I tested that by ordered 5 or 6 rolls of P400 from them and to my suprise it shipped in a few days, and I got my film very fast. I saw some people really raging about missing orders who then would not give their order numbers when asked by ORWO so there is likely a mixture in whats going on. They've always been responsive to my emails etc.
I think i have NP100 in my eos 650 now 😅
hello, how about pushing some kodak vision3 film?)
Looks like Portland ?
Yes daddy
"If you're into the look" yeah, tbh, that's kinda where the issue lies for me, it's so desaturated I don't know what to use it for
Honestly, even if you don't care about your customers, bad customer service is just bad business. ESPECIALLY when you're in a market where customers have a lot of other options.
"tape doesn't taste like scotch"... ok
"No Good Reason" he says, idk man I think entertaining us is reason enough?
DAD??????
I hope Tadhg Flynn sees this comment
... dad?
Bruh, where do you live? Always looks post apocalyptic 😂
Daddy?
Hello, Do you own any Reebok or is it all UNIQLO in your closet? Please Answer NOW.
This is repackaged garbage. Muted colors, false box speed, just horrible. And all the canister marketing and the social justice aspect, just nonsense.