Following the footsteps of McFarlane Toys, ToyBiz ML were a game changer in terms of articulation, detail/paint job and body molds. Credit where credit is due
This is very likely bullshit. I do think it'll be absolutely hilarious if it was real though. Lol. The body mold sculpt they showed looks like it's made out of balloons lmfao
I think the main issue was not only pricing but it was timing. Most of the kids that grew up with ToyBiz were gearing up for college and collecting anything comic related was in the toilet. Comic collecting really started to take off again after big media companies like Fox, Disney, and Sony started to invest and rewrite some of the story arcs. The relevancy caused some collectors to either pick up where they left off or cash in their collections. To this day, I think that Marvel legends should be locked in at the $15 - $20 mark because the current prices aren't sustainable. It makes no sense for ToyBiz to re-enter the comic toy market because things are starting to cool down and manufacturing techniques have come a long way since. They would have to produce top shelf items in the realm of Mezco, Mayfex, and Sideshow at bargain prices in order to drum up interest and I don't see that happening.
I agree, production wise will be difficult because of all the articulation shown, i mean they, or whoever owns the page/ company whatever, have showed us articulated fingers get this.... at EVERY FINGER JOINT, at about 1/12 scale, that was something only seen on the 18 inch spiderman 2 figure. So, they have to do that to every figure, which is going to be expensive if we re talking different characters, that if they d even get the marvel license. The prices, like you said, should be near mezco/ mafex so close/ over 100 bucks, but if we re sticking to marvel here, the market is pretty much filled by shf, mafex, mezco, and obviously hasbro, so they d have to bank on the nostalgia alone to move forward, but if the prices are import level, it wont be enough.
Besides a few videos, I really don’t feel like there’s been a lot of buzz around this. Honestly the only reason I’m hearing about this is because of Shartimus’ video.
I mean, the mass majority of the people on Reddit are saying prices are still going to be high or maybe even higher since the it’s a UK based owner. So their 20 bucks figure will still cost Americans 24 bucks not including shipping, and Australia will still get boned.
Hey!! Uncle Toyshiz!! Glad to see you here sharing a tale about the fabled Toybiz and the Legend of 90s Marvel. Quite the tale You've regailed onto us!
One thing I'd like to note is ToyBiz was called "Toy Biz, Inc" in the 90s. Spider-Man Classics Series 1 and 2 had "Marvel Ent." on their feet, but it was still produced by Toy Biz. In 2003, nearly all figure said "Toy Biz WW." This new ToyBiz, is called "ToyBiz LTD." All those companies are not the exact same thing, just wanted to point that out
I just started collecting the toy Biz Marvel Legends from the 2000s and honestly I really love those figures and the paint applications with an articulation and in many ways I think they are better than the Hasbro figures we get today but they are both great I just wish toy this would come back and do what they used to.
That announcement from ToyBiz didn't say they would be producing Marvel figures. It just said they announced plans to produce "action figures and toys". It didn't say anything about them getting the Marvel license back. So it could be true. ToyBiz could come back in the same way that Toys R Us "came back". Pretty much in name only as a shadow of its former self. So Disney may have sold the ToyBiz name to some investors because who cares about them if they don't produce toys that compete with Disney's licenses.
You are totally right!!, at the very best, stretching it at the fullest, what could have happened is that the rights to the name “Toy Biz” has expired (for no use) and some guy just picked it up… but doesn’t mean that he have the right to make Marvel Legends, or other licenses that other companies already have. As you said Hasbro has the rights of Marvel Legends. Great video!!
I think from a competition perspective, it would be healthy to have more companies competing in the same space. If consumers are getting more frustrated with the direction of Hasbro (Haslab Ghost Rider pricing, constant reused parts, paper packaging, etc, etc) and there are no alternatives, then it is Disney who ultimately loses out. They're currently placing a lot of trust in Hasbro to do right by the fans. I would be curious to see how the numbers look for them and to see how they're trending.
I think competition is healty, yo can see with valaverse and gi joe, valaverse is improving quality and distribution, gi joe is anouncing stuff like crazy, also they are compatible with each other. This las waves of legends has been a downfall, so expensive, the plastic free package that collectors i know hate, the lack of accesories and that simplistic and obscure bafs...
@@ShartimusPrime I see, so you're saying that Hasbro would have a say in whether Toybiz could resurrect or even have a Marvel toyline? Yeah, if that is the case, then Hasbro wouldn't allow that for sure since they would be in direct competition. I was the thinking that Disney would be able to dictate which company they could license their intellectual property to, in which case I think would benefit them in the long run. Full disclosure, I don't have any insight on anything in the industry so I'm strictly speaking out of my butt.
@@hl9573it’s licensing, Hasbro bought the rights to make all toys for marvel and Star Wars and some miscellaneous Disney, just like how Mattel has the rights to WWE and previously DC.
@@chucker173 Interesting, so you're saying that Mafex, Select, and all the other guys go through Hasbro and not Disney? Or were they previously established relationships?
I thought to myself even as I was collecting them, “damn these are shit tons of value for the money. A comic, accessories, a base not got mention the figure in all of its detail”. Amazing.
Man, I should have really seen this coming. I can't believe that I actually believed this, though I was still kinda suspicious and seeing that body, it increased my suspicions about this being real. Now that profile doesn't even exist.
Honestly when I was a kid i grew up with Hasbro marvel legends and my dad collected toy biz marvel legends so I was surrounded by toy biz and I just prefer the articulation and the paint details , I’m my opinion toy biz was and is better for Hasbro and I’m hoping that toy biz will magically come back but unfortunately I don’t think it will never come back
I started collecting Marvel Legends seriously a couple of years ago. Got me some Hasbro stuff, then I decided to look up Toy Biz stuff. I was disappointed. Honestly, from my perspective, Hasbro did produce a lot of stinkers, but nowadays they make way better stuff than Toy Biz. Moreover, I just don't get a lot of decisions made by Toy Biz. For example, there are just two, just two Black Suit Spidey they did. And both of them don't correlate with any of the Classic Suit Spideys at all. I want my characters to have if not exact, but similar proportions between their figures. I want them to look like it's the same person wearing a different outfit. For that reason I fell in love with Pizza Spidey mold. Recently, I "replaced" my Red'n'Blue and Black Pizza Guys with MAFEX figures, I do acknowledge, that figures I love are not the best. Judging by the comments, a lot of Toy Biz fans just can't take their rose-tinted glasses off.
Man now that I think about it. I should’ve saved all my Toybiz figures in storage. I had every single Toybiz marvel legends in box for the exception of like 3 that were very hard to find.
Whats that? Uninformed and reactionary? Thats certainly a REAL collector lol Not that I think for sure that the new Toybiz thing will work out, but hes making some wild assumptions. And is just wrong about some things. Disney owns Marvel Comics and licenses out some of their characters to IDW. That shows me that theyd have no issues licensing out Marvel to another company making similar figures. Hell they already do. Marvel Selects arent a WILDLY different market than Marvel Legends and its possible that if the new Toybiz does get the Marvel license that will be the market they aim for. Not the same one as Hasbro. Most annoying though is his assumption that because "Disney owns Toybiz" this thing is absolutely fake. There is no reason Disney would keep the Toybiz name just for the hell of it. If someone wanted to buy the name and Disney has zero intention of using it, theyd take the money in a heartbeat.
@@ComicCrossing I’m definitely a legit collector, no stranger in a comment section can take that away from me. But did you not know corporations buy out companies and company names and do nothing with them on purpose to drown competition? I never said I knew 100% that’s the case here, but it seems pretty obvious they’d hang onto to the name for as long as they could. Since you’re an expert on Canadian Trademark law, when did the “Toybiz” trademark expire?
@@ShartimusPrime oh I definitley didnt mean it that way. I meant that you are a legit collector in the way that we are often reactionary and uninformed. I guess I came across as a bit harsh since it was last night but its somehting Im definitely guilty of as well a lot of the time lol But for the record I would think its more likely they purchased the Toybiz trademark rather than taking hold of it once it expired. I guess we will see. But I do think its a bit shortsighted to immediately try and shut all this down with so little information actually out there currently. Especially when as far as I can tell these new guys never claimed to be making Marvel figures.
100% accurate. Great video.. The only possiblity it could be (and frankly unlikely) is Hasbro partnering with European toy manufacturer. Like GI Joe, Action Man and Action Force being variants. But this guy is not saying that
The closest it could be true would be if Disney (being a big company and the ToyBiz trademark likely not being a priority) accidently or not let the name go out of copyright in more or one regions. Stuff like that does happen. Then a new company gets to call themselves ToyBiz. But it would be a totaly unrelated company. It wouldn't have access to Marvel Legends or any such things. The only way it could be Marvel would be if it was doing expensive colletable figures (Mezco/SH Figuarts) not mass market, Hasbro has an exclusive.
Apparently the new Toybiz never even claimed theyd be doing Marvel. So this whole video is pretty pointless. Even then Marvel Selects currently exist. On the off chance that Toybiz did come back theyd probably enter that market, not the toy aisle at a Target market like Hasbro.
@@ComicCrossing the video is not pointless because people were assuming they were doing marvel. Which due to lack of info seems to be wait this company wanted to bait people into thinking. If you at pay attention to the video he never says they said that.
I believe the story for this was that toybiz property such as sculpts and already made figures was purchased when the company closed shop but the name stuck with the original creators. Which isn't hard to believe because Disney would t care about keeping something as insignificant as a company. Well maybe 2007 disney. Anyways no on was expect them to start doing Marvel figures again. That's just dumb, people were thinking they were going to start doing proper figures for certain films and heros from certain comics. Also almost 20 years later I can 100% say with all certainty that Toybiz back in the day was like the Mcfartlane of now. All the figures look better as small statues and all the figures are un uniformed and look as though one artist worked on them separately. The crazy unneeded articulation caused figures to have off putting body shapes.
Disney doesn't have to sell any rights, they just have to not renew a copyright. I think it's possible that someone bought the Toy Biz copyright if Disney let the rights slip in a particular country/area. This is not "Toy Biz is back" and I think they're overhyping what's going on. If they end up producing any toys, it will be cool to see the Toy Biz name on a new line, but it likely will come to nothing.
@@ShartimusPrime I'm talking in pure hypotheticals here. It's just way that I think someone could feasibly call themselves "Toy Biz." If he doesn't own the name in some fashion Disney will eat him alive. It's a similar situation to Bobby Vala buying Action Force and Steel Brigade copyrights when Hasbro let them slip.
@@ShartimusPrime Either way I ready don't care if it is or isn't. Like you said. The stuff they are showing looks like crap, but it's really not that hard to buy the rights to a name that other companies don't see a value in anymore. Steel Brigade anyone? 😄
Ha ha! Nice work man! First thing that came out of my mouth when I sawthis "news" was BS! And that render of there buck ha ha! I think it was the individual fingers that got me. And they kept the ugly as ball hips! Lol!
Glad you talked about this. I had a feeling it's some young dude on Instagram who's kinda fanboying over Toybiz Marvel Legends, especially since I saw his prototype of a balloon figure. It's honestly sad that people think we can buy super poseable action figures for only $10 each WITH ARTICULATED FINGERS (com'on, this is unrealistic). I mean, it still does happen when some figures pegwarm for too long, and they only charge $10-$15 for their ugly figures that no one wants, but that's about it. Say, if Toybiz does come back for real with most of the old team that used to work there, the new action figures they would make would be very expensive. It would NOT be cheap to make and produce them, especially when trying to get them into stores. If it does happen for real, the Toybiz action figures would be, like, $80 or more (by using this super poseable prototype body, for example).
Back in 2016, when I was in high school, I was assigned to write an essay about the death of a historical figure. I took the satirical approach and wrote my essay on the death of ToyBiz, I did get a B-, only because it wasn't a human being. Being 2016, some information is probably outdated nowadays. But from what I've read, ToyBiz had the Marvel figure license revoked because Disney realized the little money they made from it wasn't worth sustaining those factories to produce them. Their solution? Sell the rights to Hasbro, that way Disney gets a cut without having to run their own factories and pay employees, let Hasbro do it. ToyBiz tried making the Legendary Heroes line but it still wasn't profitable enough to keep doing it. Ultimately, (according to my research from 7 years ago) ToyBiz didn't go bankrupt and then lose the license to Hasbro, instead, they weren't making enough money, so Hasbro acquired the license and that's what killed them.
Seems like the end of Toy Biz is similar to the end of MAA Marvel Legends Alliance, both were part of Disney, but Disney doesn't want to enter in the business of factories and videogames, they prefer to give a license, so they closed all.
@@ShartimusPrime Then you believed misinfo. Disney didn't have any say in TB because TB was defunct 2 years BEFORE the sale to Disney. This Chewy guy's spewing 100% misinfo. TB didn't lose the license because the prices were too low. That's obviously some Disney/Hasbro shill lying to justify the current price gouging. TB was fine financially in the early 2000's, it was MARVEL who went bankrupt due to bad comic sales and had to defunct TB and try and sell the toy license to Hasbro in 2006-2007, again, a couple of YEARS before Disney is even in the picture. WAY TO DO YOUR RESEARCH SHART! XD
I was suspicious since the beginning, when they say they're making Marvel Legends, I thought how the hell it works for Hasbro cause they have the license, so how will other company make the same style of figures? For me, it did not make sense from the very beginning.
Hey. First of all, thanks for the great video, I learned a lot from it. Would I want Toy Biz back, definitely YES. I would like to be understood correctly, Hasbro has done a lot of good, but when I look at the figures made by Toy Biz ... I don't know if it's the detail of the workmanship, the amount of carved elements, painting ... or something else, but these figures seem to somehow unique. Also, I wanted to say that I am Polish ... and I can confirm that someone like Grzegorz Jacek Zalewski has never been associated with Toy Biz in any way. This information doesn't make any sense... fake
Something to remember is that *ANYONE* can edit a Wikipedia page to say anything so that info is not something you can consider reliable. From what little info that's out there either this new guy has bought the ToyBiz name and logo and Legendary Comic Book Heroes name and logo (and *ONLY* the names and logos) from Disney or the trademarks have expired and this guy has claimed them. Trademarks and copyrights are two completely different things. Copyright is the embodiment of a work such as artwork, a story or a song while trademark covers the names and logos used in business dealings. Copyrights last for something like 100 years where trademarks have to be kept in some sort of constant use to retain ownership. For example when Disney's copyright on the initial Micky Mouse cartoon expires it doesn't affect the following cartoons until said expiration time frame arrives nor does it affect the trademarks Disney holds on names and likenesses of those particular versions of Micky Mouse, Minnie Mouse or Pegleg Pete. If this guy is, indeed, bringing back ToyBiz and is not being just some complete social media troll it will be, like you said at the end of the video, completely unrelated to the old ToyBiz. He will not be making Marvel Legends and even if he does have some sort of Marvel license it won't be for any category that Hasbro currently has. I'm having trouble remembering any of ToyBiz's original IPs other than Water Babies but I'm sure that those IPs (like Water Babies) were sold off years ago, most likely before the complete shutdown of the division.
But you forgot something, you can report this to ICAAN, if for example I want nintendo something domain, then I register this, Nintendo can report me in an instant, because that's a brand, you can't buy a brand, no matter how much you want that, or if you are a hardcore fan, that's illegal, even a fake IG can be report too, we are not at 2000 anymore we are at 2023, rules are more hard to break now.
Great video, Russ - by the way, the guy’s name is pronounced more like “Gshe-gosh Yatsek Zalevsky”, his first and second name are a Polish equivalents of Gregory Jack.
If by some miracle Toybiz did come back it would be a waste of time to pursue the Marvel license when there is a huge hole in the market right now for a good quality/affordable six-inch scale DC line. The only options for six-inch DC figures right now are Mafex and Mezco which are pretty expensive.
I cannot agree more with your statement! This is all BS. What my concern really is that this guy might start to ask people for funds like kickstarter or croud funding and he will scam loads of people for money… hope no one will fall for it
I don't think the idea is that Disney have SOLD Toy-Biz, more that they've let the trademark lapse so someone else has jumped on it. Which sounds stupid, but that's exactly what happened with Hasbro and Action Force. Hasbro didn't bother to renew the trademark so Bobby Vala snagged it. The crucial thing is, even if that is what happened the new company have only acquired the right to call themselves Toy Biz. They don't have access to any of the IP Toy Biz worked on in the past, including Marvel.
Maybe the only thing they bought was the name and logo? Then they will use that to sell action figures from independent comics? Back in my area, the 5-inch figures were $5.70. The Marvel Legends were around $7.40, and included a super articulated figure, playing card, comic book, accessory, and a build a figure part. That was a great value.
From what I understand of Trademarks (and I'm NOT a Legal expert by any stretch), they tend to be territorial by nature. So if a US trademark is not registered or currently maintained in the UK, it should generally be free to use. The UK Government's Companies House oversee this and will reject any infringements. But as Mr Prime points out, this guy has registered three similar businesses in the space of a few months at the beginning of last year, but he has yet to file any official paperwork besides the companies' Incorporation documents. Make of it what you will, but I seriously doubt you'll be getting anything serious from this version of Toybiz...
It’s ridiculous how cheap toybiz marvel legends were selling, they included so many accessories like those body parts that combined into sentinel and galactus and comics… the designs were so much more faithful to the comics than the actors inspired figures we are getting.
The trademark expired for the name for Toybiz, Disney didn't renew it, this guy bought the trademark, and is now trying to capitalize on it. That's the only logical thing I can think of that actually makes sense besides the guy just trying to do it without Disney's consent and risking lawsuits out the ass. Regardless......Disney isn't licensing out any Marvel characters to this person.
You can't do that, if a company like Nintendo saw that you are buying a domain with the name nintendo, Doesn't matter if you are a full site or not, you are renting a domain, they can easily report this to ICAAN, and they will take your down your transaction with the domain service. Simple as that, we aren't at 90s anymore, we are at 2023.
@@LosMSR that's Nintendo. They own all of Nintendo names, IPs, likeness, images, any copyrights, patents, and domains with Nintendo in them. If a company owns a name and it expires, they decide not to renew that in any way, it's up for grabs. I said that's a possibility or that the person is just ignoring if Disney still owns the name. Read next time.
I remember the end days, I bought the whole 12 inch series at kaybee for 3.99 each on clearance, the MOJO, MODOK waves for 5.00 a fig including the common variants...then it ended and we started buying the Marvel Universe 3.75 inch Line...
Even if ToyBiz would reopen again, how they're supposed to make new Marvel Lengends whe it is Hasbro that has the rights to do figures based upon Marvel Entertainment IPs?!
Not like that though. That's in a different scale. MAFEX, Mezco, SHF, they have their own lanes too. Well, the SHF and Mafex kinda run into each other. Idk how that one happened.
Toybiz was initially purchased by Marvel and in the bankruptcy was spun off and purchased Marvel. It was the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Toybiz was doing insane business.
I'm dubious, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't believe for a minute if the company does come back they'll get the original team who made the figures and they won't be making marvel figures for sure. And those bodies they've built don't look that promising and look alot like very good mocks ups to me. We'll see..
O.O Please not revived by Avi Arad. Please no! Oh thank God. That guy was a jerk! The lady took HIM DOWN. SHE WANTED EVERYTHING HE HAD TO BE DESTROYED. She succeeded in her mission. If it did come back, he better not be a part of it or she will destroy it again. Unless he apologized which never mentioned he did.
Yep. Disney owns Marvel. Disney have a good thing going with Hasbro, who make the Star Wars figures, the Marvel Legends figures and the Indiana Jones figures. Hasbro probably make other Disney stuff too. There's no reason why Disney would damage that relationship unless there was serious bucks involved and it was with a company that could make financial guarantees. How can new company (using an old name) make any guarantees? Besides that, the Hasbro Marvel Legends figures sell very well. It's a very successful line. Why would Disney jeopardise "money in the bank" for no obvious gain?
Grzegorz Jacek Zalewski is supposed to be Polish and here's a thing: Polish government recently started funnelling A LOT of money into varius kinds of NGOs "seemingly" unrelated to the ruling party... In election year. One of the more interesting cases found out by free media journalists was a 25-year old bartender who was grennlit to receive 55 000 000 PLN (12,5 million dollars) for his business despite starting his company just a few weeks prior. I really wouln't be surprised if some politician's kid living in UK was granted a hefty amount of money and used it to buy the "Toy Biz" rights (whatever they may entail) to make his dream of making action figures come true.
Could be wrong but l think all this craze blew up cause l asked fig reviewer SoulKeever, a hypothetical question about Toybiz and he found that Wikipedia paragraph...l mean ngl l still hope it's true but if not l think l might've just started a shit storm 😂
April 1st is right around the corner. Getting flashbacks when I tuned into to see who was Cartman's father.."Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus."
Im not saying the new Toybiz is FOR SURE on the up and up, but I think you overestimate how much Disney would care about the Toybiz name or even the toy license being exclusive to Hasbro. Toybiz means essentially nothing to Disney currently. Its a name they potentially own that they are doing nothing with. If they can get a small payday by selling the name then why wouldnt they do it? Its like selling a old figure youve had in a drawer for a decade and have no intention of displaying. Second, Marvel and Disney have no particular loyalty to Hasbro. They license out the license to plenty of different companies all the time. We are talking about a company that OWNS Marvel Comics but still licenses out Marvel characters to IDW for some books. Plus depending on how the new guys at nu Toybiz sold the idea, they could be in a different market. Sort of like how Playmates and Neca both have the Turtles. Or more similarly how Marvel Legends and Marvel Selects both exist. Heres a crackpot theory. Perhaps Diamond loses the license and they give that corner of the Marvel line to nu Toybiz to make similar figures.
If anything, I would think Disney would just hire as much staff as possible, make their own line, and ditch Hasbro. There's no reason they would use the name toybiz.
The whole Hasbro has no competition reminds me of Rockstar having no competition with GTA 5. Hence why everything is so half ass'd and they continuously try to price gauge everything and everyone.
I've been customizing for about as long as they've made toybiz marvel legends. Every attempt to make my ideal representation of a character. Mostly because we got a lot of reused body molds just encouraged me to get into the hobby. To be honest they are all fodder to me. Especially the larger characters Baf's mostly out of scale. Toy biz did a good job on giving us large figures for the same price as the other's. Almost every baf has been So out of scale and thank goodness for haslab and our large scale G-man and Sentinal. but if they (toybiz) ever wants to do a marvel line. I've always thought a Marvel Master-pieces series in like a 7 inch line with more Accurate scales would be cool. Remember those badass cards.
Well there is one thing Disney was dumb about... Cough Cough .......the star wars sequels Cough Cough....Ray and Ben solo being cousins and kissing and already knowing it
Can someone please explain to me how mafex and SH Figuarts can license Marvel and DC figurines together? And when the official rights of Marvel belong to Disney and Hasbro? Or do DC' belong to McFarlane?
I assume it's that the scale of the figures is different. SHF mostly being 5.5" scale and Mafex being 6.5". My assumption, don't know for sure if that's how/why.
I am not claiming to be correct by this at all…but, wouldn’t it be cool if marvel/Disney did do this to gain more shelf space in the toy aisles? Sort of like DC McFarlane did with bringing back dc direct to gain more shelf space and each store etc and also the AEW and WWE elite figures did the same thing. It’s actually a good idea from a business aspect. It’s just wishful thinking on my part. I don’t believe it until I actually see more figures hanging on the shelves.
I really think marvel legends should release a line at some point containing figures how they were in the 90s and early 2000s. With completely unique builds and pose able fingers and toes.
Following the footsteps of McFarlane Toys, ToyBiz ML were a game changer in terms of articulation, detail/paint job and body molds. Credit where credit is due
This is very likely bullshit. I do think it'll be absolutely hilarious if it was real though. Lol. The body mold sculpt they showed looks like it's made out of balloons lmfao
Yeah, did you see that skeleton hands? Toy Biz needs to understand that we aren't in 2002 anymore.
I think the main issue was not only pricing but it was timing. Most of the kids that grew up with ToyBiz were gearing up for college and collecting anything comic related was in the toilet. Comic collecting really started to take off again after big media companies like Fox, Disney, and Sony started to invest and rewrite some of the story arcs. The relevancy caused some collectors to either pick up where they left off or cash in their collections. To this day, I think that Marvel legends should be locked in at the $15 - $20 mark because the current prices aren't sustainable. It makes no sense for ToyBiz to re-enter the comic toy market because things are starting to cool down and manufacturing techniques have come a long way since. They would have to produce top shelf items in the realm of Mezco, Mayfex, and Sideshow at bargain prices in order to drum up interest and I don't see that happening.
I agree, production wise will be difficult because of all the articulation shown, i mean they, or whoever owns the page/ company whatever, have showed us articulated fingers get this.... at EVERY FINGER JOINT, at about 1/12 scale, that was something only seen on the 18 inch spiderman 2 figure.
So, they have to do that to every figure, which is going to be expensive if we re talking different characters, that if they d even get the marvel license.
The prices, like you said, should be near mezco/ mafex so close/ over 100 bucks, but if we re sticking to marvel here, the market is pretty much filled by shf, mafex, mezco, and obviously hasbro, so they d have to bank on the nostalgia alone to move forward, but if the prices are import level, it wont be enough.
Poor shartimus has to explain common sense to a completely ridiculous collector demographic
Agree
Besides a few videos, I really don’t feel like there’s been a lot of buzz around this. Honestly the only reason I’m hearing about this is because of Shartimus’ video.
I mean, the mass majority of the people on Reddit are saying prices are still going to be high or maybe even higher since the it’s a UK based owner. So their 20 bucks figure will still cost Americans 24 bucks not including shipping, and Australia will still get boned.
@@mrdude88 bless your heart
If you think the vast majority of collectors have common sense… then you haven’t been paying attention to the literature.
Hey!! Uncle Toyshiz!! Glad to see you here sharing a tale about the fabled Toybiz and the Legend of 90s Marvel. Quite the tale You've regailed onto us!
One thing I'd like to note is ToyBiz was called "Toy Biz, Inc" in the 90s. Spider-Man Classics Series 1 and 2 had "Marvel Ent." on their feet, but it was still produced by Toy Biz. In 2003, nearly all figure said "Toy Biz WW." This new ToyBiz, is called "ToyBiz LTD." All those companies are not the exact same thing, just wanted to point that out
Thank you for putting into perspective it all. This is the importance of researching properly and taking things with a grain of salt.
I grew up with the Toybiz ML, and as much as I would love for them to come back, they've already had their run. Plus it wouldn't be the same anymore.
most of the toybiz team works with jazwares now a days
Just Dave Cortes as far as I know. Just the one dude.
I just started collecting the toy Biz Marvel Legends from the 2000s and honestly I really love those figures and the paint applications with an articulation and in many ways I think they are better than the Hasbro figures we get today but they are both great I just wish toy this would come back and do what they used to.
I wonde,r was there lead in Toybiz paint? 🤔
@@tyestancil2783 I don't know if you're trying to be a jackass or whatever that comment is but no.
@@knightshifter2201 as is your initial one.
I’m with you bro 👊🏼
Me too! Sculpts, paint, detail, character. Still love my Toybiz figs
That announcement from ToyBiz didn't say they would be producing Marvel figures. It just said they announced plans to produce "action figures and toys". It didn't say anything about them getting the Marvel license back. So it could be true. ToyBiz could come back in the same way that Toys R Us "came back". Pretty much in name only as a shadow of its former self. So Disney may have sold the ToyBiz name to some investors because who cares about them if they don't produce toys that compete with Disney's licenses.
Yes, but shart doesnt read good so he missed the facts. Just went straight to calling it bs. Talk about glass houses. Lol
There were posts before that one that mentioned Marvel
@The Lupinator well they arent there now, so plans do seem to change. Its allowed.
@@joeyr.cannoli Yeah, I only went by the example he used in his own video, and that didn't mention Marvel.
Es más fácil engañar a alguien que convencerlo de que han sido engañados.
You are totally right!!, at the very best, stretching it at the fullest, what could have happened is that the rights to the name “Toy Biz” has expired (for no use) and some guy just picked it up… but doesn’t mean that he have the right to make Marvel Legends, or other licenses that other companies already have.
As you said Hasbro has the rights of Marvel Legends.
Great video!!
I think from a competition perspective, it would be healthy to have more companies competing in the same space. If consumers are getting more frustrated with the direction of Hasbro (Haslab Ghost Rider pricing, constant reused parts, paper packaging, etc, etc) and there are no alternatives, then it is Disney who ultimately loses out. They're currently placing a lot of trust in Hasbro to do right by the fans. I would be curious to see how the numbers look for them and to see how they're trending.
But if you're Hasbro, why would you even agree to that?
I think competition is healty, yo can see with valaverse and gi joe, valaverse is improving quality and distribution, gi joe is anouncing stuff like crazy, also they are compatible with each other. This las waves of legends has been a downfall, so expensive, the plastic free package that collectors i know hate, the lack of accesories and that simplistic and obscure bafs...
@@ShartimusPrime I see, so you're saying that Hasbro would have a say in whether Toybiz could resurrect or even have a Marvel toyline? Yeah, if that is the case, then Hasbro wouldn't allow that for sure since they would be in direct competition. I was the thinking that Disney would be able to dictate which company they could license their intellectual property to, in which case I think would benefit them in the long run. Full disclosure, I don't have any insight on anything in the industry so I'm strictly speaking out of my butt.
@@hl9573it’s licensing, Hasbro bought the rights to make all toys for marvel and Star Wars and some miscellaneous Disney, just like how Mattel has the rights to WWE and previously DC.
@@chucker173 Interesting, so you're saying that Mafex, Select, and all the other guys go through Hasbro and not Disney? Or were they previously established relationships?
I thought to myself even as I was collecting them, “damn these are shit tons of value for the money. A comic, accessories, a base not got mention the figure in all of its detail”. Amazing.
Man, I should have really seen this coming. I can't believe that I actually believed this, though I was still kinda suspicious and seeing that body, it increased my suspicions about this being real. Now that profile doesn't even exist.
yeah!! cant wait for them to give us updated version of their scarlet witch and fugly rogue😂
Honestly when I was a kid i grew up with Hasbro marvel legends and my dad collected toy biz marvel legends so I was surrounded by toy biz and I just prefer the articulation and the paint details , I’m my opinion toy biz was and is better for Hasbro and I’m hoping that toy biz will magically come back but unfortunately I don’t think it will never come back
I started collecting Marvel Legends seriously a couple of years ago. Got me some Hasbro stuff, then I decided to look up Toy Biz stuff. I was disappointed. Honestly, from my perspective, Hasbro did produce a lot of stinkers, but nowadays they make way better stuff than Toy Biz. Moreover, I just don't get a lot of decisions made by Toy Biz. For example, there are just two, just two Black Suit Spidey they did. And both of them don't correlate with any of the Classic Suit Spideys at all. I want my characters to have if not exact, but similar proportions between their figures. I want them to look like it's the same person wearing a different outfit. For that reason I fell in love with Pizza Spidey mold. Recently, I "replaced" my Red'n'Blue and Black Pizza Guys with MAFEX figures, I do acknowledge, that figures I love are not the best. Judging by the comments, a lot of Toy Biz fans just can't take their rose-tinted glasses off.
Love the new content, sharty. Video quality is nuts today
Man now that I think about it. I should’ve saved all my Toybiz figures in storage. I had every single Toybiz marvel legends in box for the exception of like 3 that were very hard to find.
I appreciate videos like this. I appreciate you looking out for your fellow collectors.
Thanks for always being a REAL collector Shartimus
Whats that? Uninformed and reactionary? Thats certainly a REAL collector lol
Not that I think for sure that the new Toybiz thing will work out, but hes making some wild assumptions. And is just wrong about some things. Disney owns Marvel Comics and licenses out some of their characters to IDW. That shows me that theyd have no issues licensing out Marvel to another company making similar figures. Hell they already do. Marvel Selects arent a WILDLY different market than Marvel Legends and its possible that if the new Toybiz does get the Marvel license that will be the market they aim for. Not the same one as Hasbro.
Most annoying though is his assumption that because "Disney owns Toybiz" this thing is absolutely fake. There is no reason Disney would keep the Toybiz name just for the hell of it. If someone wanted to buy the name and Disney has zero intention of using it, theyd take the money in a heartbeat.
@@ComicCrossing I’m definitely a legit collector, no stranger in a comment section can take that away from me. But did you not know corporations buy out companies and company names and do nothing with them on purpose to drown competition? I never said I knew 100% that’s the case here, but it seems pretty obvious they’d hang onto to the name for as long as they could. Since you’re an expert on Canadian Trademark law, when did the “Toybiz” trademark expire?
@@ShartimusPrime oh I definitley didnt mean it that way. I meant that you are a legit collector in the way that we are often reactionary and uninformed. I guess I came across as a bit harsh since it was last night but its somehting Im definitely guilty of as well a lot of the time lol
But for the record I would think its more likely they purchased the Toybiz trademark rather than taking hold of it once it expired. I guess we will see. But I do think its a bit shortsighted to immediately try and shut all this down with so little information actually out there currently. Especially when as far as I can tell these new guys never claimed to be making Marvel figures.
@@ComicCrossing I’m sorry am I supposed to know who u r?
@@ShartimusPrime video is crazy
I see the Dead Kennedys pin, love to know I’m not the only punk Action figure collector lol
100% accurate. Great video..
The only possiblity it could be (and frankly unlikely) is Hasbro partnering with European toy manufacturer. Like GI Joe, Action Man and Action Force being variants. But this guy is not saying that
The closest it could be true would be if Disney (being a big company and the ToyBiz trademark likely not being a priority) accidently or not let the name go out of copyright in more or one regions. Stuff like that does happen. Then a new company gets to call themselves ToyBiz. But it would be a totaly unrelated company. It wouldn't have access to Marvel Legends or any such things. The only way it could be Marvel would be if it was doing expensive colletable figures (Mezco/SH Figuarts) not mass market, Hasbro has an exclusive.
Apparently the new Toybiz never even claimed theyd be doing Marvel. So this whole video is pretty pointless. Even then Marvel Selects currently exist. On the off chance that Toybiz did come back theyd probably enter that market, not the toy aisle at a Target market like Hasbro.
@@ComicCrossing the video is not pointless because people were assuming they were doing marvel. Which due to lack of info seems to be wait this company wanted to bait people into thinking. If you at pay attention to the video he never says they said that.
@@LinkMEP but the fact that people are saying that in the first place is whats ridiculous.
I believe the story for this was that toybiz property such as sculpts and already made figures was purchased when the company closed shop but the name stuck with the original creators. Which isn't hard to believe because Disney would t care about keeping something as insignificant as a company. Well maybe 2007 disney. Anyways no on was expect them to start doing Marvel figures again. That's just dumb, people were thinking they were going to start doing proper figures for certain films and heros from certain comics.
Also almost 20 years later I can 100% say with all certainty that Toybiz back in the day was like the Mcfartlane of now. All the figures look better as small statues and all the figures are un uniformed and look as though one artist worked on them separately. The crazy unneeded articulation caused figures to have off putting body shapes.
Disney doesn't have to sell any rights, they just have to not renew a copyright. I think it's possible that someone bought the Toy Biz copyright if Disney let the rights slip in a particular country/area. This is not "Toy Biz is back" and I think they're overhyping what's going on. If they end up producing any toys, it will be cool to see the Toy Biz name on a new line, but it likely will come to nothing.
But even then, are you really sure? How well versed are you in Canadian copyright law? I know pretty much jack squat. lol
@@ShartimusPrime I'm talking in pure hypotheticals here. It's just way that I think someone could feasibly call themselves "Toy Biz." If he doesn't own the name in some fashion Disney will eat him alive.
It's a similar situation to Bobby Vala buying Action Force and Steel Brigade copyrights when Hasbro let them slip.
This. People are reading into this way too much. Toybiz is back. But just in name. Period.
@@luosnogard333 Nah man, I think it's bullshit.
@@ShartimusPrime Either way I ready don't care if it is or isn't. Like you said. The stuff they are showing looks like crap, but it's really not that hard to buy the rights to a name that other companies don't see a value in anymore. Steel Brigade anyone? 😄
Ha ha! Nice work man! First thing that came out of my mouth when I sawthis "news" was BS! And that render of there buck ha ha! I think it was the individual fingers that got me. And they kept the ugly as ball hips! Lol!
@_stormentv-ck6xl scamers stop scamin
Welp update. The instagram is completely gone…😭
It was a public hoax
@@UchihaMadara-e6u yeahhh figured that out the hard way
Glad you talked about this. I had a feeling it's some young dude on Instagram who's kinda fanboying over Toybiz Marvel Legends, especially since I saw his prototype of a balloon figure. It's honestly sad that people think we can buy super poseable action figures for only $10 each WITH ARTICULATED FINGERS (com'on, this is unrealistic). I mean, it still does happen when some figures pegwarm for too long, and they only charge $10-$15 for their ugly figures that no one wants, but that's about it. Say, if Toybiz does come back for real with most of the old team that used to work there, the new action figures they would make would be very expensive. It would NOT be cheap to make and produce them, especially when trying to get them into stores. If it does happen for real, the Toybiz action figures would be, like, $80 or more (by using this super poseable prototype body, for example).
I got pretty excited thinking about getting new toy biz since I wasn’t around for them originally but I shoulda seen it coming
Back in 2016, when I was in high school, I was assigned to write an essay about the death of a historical figure. I took the satirical approach and wrote my essay on the death of ToyBiz, I did get a B-, only because it wasn't a human being.
Being 2016, some information is probably outdated nowadays. But from what I've read, ToyBiz had the Marvel figure license revoked because Disney realized the little money they made from it wasn't worth sustaining those factories to produce them. Their solution? Sell the rights to Hasbro, that way Disney gets a cut without having to run their own factories and pay employees, let Hasbro do it.
ToyBiz tried making the Legendary Heroes line but it still wasn't profitable enough to keep doing it.
Ultimately, (according to my research from 7 years ago) ToyBiz didn't go bankrupt and then lose the license to Hasbro, instead, they weren't making enough money, so Hasbro acquired the license and that's what killed them.
Yup, I believe everything you wrote here was accurate. I would have given you an A+. :0)
@@ShartimusPrime Well thanks Shart 😊
Seems like the end of Toy Biz is similar to the end of MAA Marvel Legends Alliance, both were part of Disney, but Disney doesn't want to enter in the business of factories and videogames, they prefer to give a license, so they closed all.
@@ShartimusPrime Then you believed misinfo.
Disney didn't have any say in TB because TB was defunct 2 years BEFORE the sale to Disney.
This Chewy guy's spewing 100% misinfo.
TB didn't lose the license because the prices were too low. That's obviously some Disney/Hasbro shill lying to justify the current price gouging.
TB was fine financially in the early 2000's, it was MARVEL who went bankrupt due to bad comic sales and had to defunct TB and try and sell the toy license to Hasbro in 2006-2007, again, a couple of YEARS before Disney is even in the picture.
WAY TO DO YOUR RESEARCH SHART! XD
I was suspicious since the beginning, when they say they're making Marvel Legends, I thought how the hell it works for Hasbro cause they have the license, so how will other company make the same style of figures? For me, it did not make sense from the very beginning.
Hey. First of all, thanks for the great video, I learned a lot from it. Would I want Toy Biz back, definitely YES. I would like to be understood correctly, Hasbro has done a lot of good, but when I look at the figures made by Toy Biz ... I don't know if it's the detail of the workmanship, the amount of carved elements, painting ... or something else, but these figures seem to somehow unique.
Also, I wanted to say that I am Polish ... and I can confirm that someone like Grzegorz Jacek Zalewski has never been associated with Toy Biz in any way. This information doesn't make any sense... fake
Something to remember is that *ANYONE* can edit a Wikipedia page to say anything so that info is not something you can consider reliable. From what little info that's out there either this new guy has bought the ToyBiz name and logo and Legendary Comic Book Heroes name and logo (and *ONLY* the names and logos) from Disney or the trademarks have expired and this guy has claimed them. Trademarks and copyrights are two completely different things. Copyright is the embodiment of a work such as artwork, a story or a song while trademark covers the names and logos used in business dealings. Copyrights last for something like 100 years where trademarks have to be kept in some sort of constant use to retain ownership. For example when Disney's copyright on the initial Micky Mouse cartoon expires it doesn't affect the following cartoons until said expiration time frame arrives nor does it affect the trademarks Disney holds on names and likenesses of those particular versions of Micky Mouse, Minnie Mouse or Pegleg Pete. If this guy is, indeed, bringing back ToyBiz and is not being just some complete social media troll it will be, like you said at the end of the video, completely unrelated to the old ToyBiz. He will not be making Marvel Legends and even if he does have some sort of Marvel license it won't be for any category that Hasbro currently has. I'm having trouble remembering any of ToyBiz's original IPs other than Water Babies but I'm sure that those IPs (like Water Babies) were sold off years ago, most likely before the complete shutdown of the division.
But you forgot something, you can report this to ICAAN, if for example I want nintendo something domain, then I register this, Nintendo can report me in an instant, because that's a brand, you can't buy a brand, no matter how much you want that, or if you are a hardcore fan, that's illegal, even a fake IG can be report too, we are not at 2000 anymore we are at 2023, rules are more hard to break now.
Thank you Mr. Shartimus
Great video, Russ - by the way, the guy’s name is pronounced more like “Gshe-gosh Yatsek Zalevsky”, his first and second name are a Polish equivalents of Gregory Jack.
If by some miracle Toybiz did come back it would be a waste of time to pursue the Marvel license when there is a huge hole in the market right now for a good quality/affordable six-inch scale DC line. The only options for six-inch DC figures right now are Mafex and Mezco which are pretty expensive.
I was just thinking they were using the name Toybiz, but didn't know Disney owns the rights to the name
did you just click bait us on a video talking about click bait? im not even mad thats badass 😂
LMAO
I cannot agree more with your statement! This is all BS. What my concern really is that this guy might start to ask people for funds like kickstarter or croud funding and he will scam loads of people for money… hope no one will fall for it
That's not gonna happen, if this is an scan, you can report the account to IG, no more problems.
General rule of thumb don't immediately trust Wikipedia
IF ToyBiz is back, I would like them to update all of their molds and instead do DC Figures please! DC needs a proper 6inch Marvel Legends style line!
Naaah McFarlane can keep DC
mcfarlanes 7 inch figs are better made than legends right now. DC is doing WAY better
Agreed! We need good dc figures. McFarlane is garbage
@@JoeyBcollects not really. You guys let hasbro spoil you instead disrespecting Todd has done since 2020.
not a bad idea
I don't think the idea is that Disney have SOLD Toy-Biz, more that they've let the trademark lapse so someone else has jumped on it.
Which sounds stupid, but that's exactly what happened with Hasbro and Action Force. Hasbro didn't bother to renew the trademark so Bobby Vala snagged it.
The crucial thing is, even if that is what happened the new company have only acquired the right to call themselves Toy Biz. They don't have access to any of the IP Toy Biz worked on in the past, including Marvel.
Maybe the only thing they bought was the name and logo? Then they will use that to sell action figures from independent comics? Back in my area, the 5-inch figures were $5.70. The Marvel Legends were around $7.40, and included a super articulated figure, playing card, comic book, accessory, and a build a figure part. That was a great value.
From what I understand of Trademarks (and I'm NOT a Legal expert by any stretch), they tend to be territorial by nature. So if a US trademark is not registered or currently maintained in the UK, it should generally be free to use. The UK Government's Companies House oversee this and will reject any infringements.
But as Mr Prime points out, this guy has registered three similar businesses in the space of a few months at the beginning of last year, but he has yet to file any official paperwork besides the companies' Incorporation documents.
Make of it what you will, but I seriously doubt you'll be getting anything serious from this version of Toybiz...
Calm measured response. I feel some years ago you'd have been yelling this at us. Matured.
Business is weird. If toybiz will come through, then good. If not, so be it. I just want quality figures at a right price.
Sweet jacket. That's a nice assortment of pins you got there too
Double jointed toe joints had me dying lmao
Anyone can edit a Wikipedia page Shart, so it’s possible that they edited that last part in there themselves.
I know.
It’s ridiculous how cheap toybiz marvel legends were selling, they included so many accessories like those body parts that combined into sentinel and galactus and comics… the designs were so much more faithful to the comics than the actors inspired figures we are getting.
Alternate hands > Finger articulation
Hasbro hips > ToyBiz hips
The trademark expired for the name for Toybiz, Disney didn't renew it, this guy bought the trademark, and is now trying to capitalize on it. That's the only logical thing I can think of that actually makes sense besides the guy just trying to do it without Disney's consent and risking lawsuits out the ass. Regardless......Disney isn't licensing out any Marvel characters to this person.
You perfectly summed up what is likely the case.
You can't do that, if a company like Nintendo saw that you are buying a domain with the name nintendo, Doesn't matter if you are a full site or not, you are renting a domain, they can easily report this to ICAAN, and they will take your down your transaction with the domain service. Simple as that, we aren't at 90s anymore, we are at 2023.
@@LosMSR that's Nintendo. They own all of Nintendo names, IPs, likeness, images, any copyrights, patents, and domains with Nintendo in them. If a company owns a name and it expires, they decide not to renew that in any way, it's up for grabs. I said that's a possibility or that the person is just ignoring if Disney still owns the name. Read next time.
@@chrisflynn9695 Depends of the contract, and what is Toy Biz exactly, we don't know that for sure. You are just guessing, like anyone else here.
It's true, if you have imagination, and if you believe it's true.😂😂😂😂
I remember the end days, I bought the whole 12 inch series at kaybee for 3.99 each on clearance, the MOJO, MODOK waves for 5.00 a fig including the common variants...then it ended and we started buying the Marvel Universe 3.75 inch Line...
Everything on Wikipedia is wrong. Crackheads can smoke pole, get minutes on a Razor flip phone and edit anything on those pages.
Cause You Know everything!! You block anyone who disagrees with you! But what do I know !! Hail Avi Arad !! The true legend savior !!
Even if ToyBiz would reopen again, how they're supposed to make new Marvel Lengends whe it is Hasbro that has the rights to do figures based upon Marvel Entertainment IPs?!
There are other companies other than Hasbro making offical Marvel stuff, like Diamond Selecttoys and stuff... But Yea, I agree, this looks fake.
Not like that though. That's in a different scale. MAFEX, Mezco, SHF, they have their own lanes too. Well, the SHF and Mafex kinda run into each other. Idk how that one happened.
Toybiz used to make more detail figures than hasbro
Toybiz was initially purchased by Marvel and in the bankruptcy was spun off and purchased Marvel. It was the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Toybiz was doing insane business.
Another case of something that sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true.
I'm dubious, I'll believe it when I see it. I don't believe for a minute if the company does come back they'll get the original team who made the figures and they won't be making marvel figures for sure. And those bodies they've built don't look that promising and look alot like very good mocks ups to me.
We'll see..
O.O Please not revived by Avi Arad. Please no!
Oh thank God. That guy was a jerk!
The lady took HIM DOWN. SHE WANTED EVERYTHING HE HAD TO BE DESTROYED. She succeeded in her mission. If it did come back, he better not be a part of it or she will destroy it again. Unless he apologized which never mentioned he did.
Reminds me of that Captain Phillips scene-
“Disney, look at me, look at me… I am the Toybiz now!”
Yep. Disney owns Marvel. Disney have a good thing going with Hasbro, who make the Star Wars figures, the Marvel Legends figures and the Indiana Jones figures. Hasbro probably make other Disney stuff too. There's no reason why Disney would damage that relationship unless there was serious bucks involved and it was with a company that could make financial guarantees. How can new company (using an old name) make any guarantees? Besides that, the Hasbro Marvel Legends figures sell very well. It's a very successful line. Why would Disney jeopardise "money in the bank" for no obvious gain?
Hasbro has been actually producing similar toybiz packaging for their own figures so what does that really tell you
"They" better watch their ass. Disney will legally stomp them into pudding.
Grzegorz Jacek Zalewski is supposed to be Polish and here's a thing: Polish government recently started funnelling A LOT of money into varius kinds of NGOs "seemingly" unrelated to the ruling party... In election year. One of the more interesting cases found out by free media journalists was a 25-year old bartender who was grennlit to receive 55 000 000 PLN (12,5 million dollars) for his business despite starting his company just a few weeks prior. I really wouln't be surprised if some politician's kid living in UK was granted a hefty amount of money and used it to buy the "Toy Biz" rights (whatever they may entail) to make his dream of making action figures come true.
You've collected long enough to be able to educate the newbs
Now this is a W
If they are back it's Fantastic! But I haven't seen any product yet.
I forgot those Toy Biz era legends were that cheap.
any update on this toybiz? or its just a hoax
Yeah, it was fake. It was just a fan pretending to own the ToyBiz name
@@chewymewdamn! was excited for a while lol
Could be wrong but l think all this craze blew up cause l asked fig reviewer SoulKeever, a hypothetical question about Toybiz and he found that Wikipedia paragraph...l mean ngl l still hope it's true but if not l think l might've just started a shit storm 😂
April 1st is right around the corner. Getting flashbacks when I tuned into to see who was Cartman's father.."Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus."
Unfortunately I think this is one of those things where people who were dumb enough to believe it are going to be too dumb to convince otherwise.
Im not saying the new Toybiz is FOR SURE on the up and up, but I think you overestimate how much Disney would care about the Toybiz name or even the toy license being exclusive to Hasbro. Toybiz means essentially nothing to Disney currently. Its a name they potentially own that they are doing nothing with. If they can get a small payday by selling the name then why wouldnt they do it? Its like selling a old figure youve had in a drawer for a decade and have no intention of displaying.
Second, Marvel and Disney have no particular loyalty to Hasbro. They license out the license to plenty of different companies all the time. We are talking about a company that OWNS Marvel Comics but still licenses out Marvel characters to IDW for some books. Plus depending on how the new guys at nu Toybiz sold the idea, they could be in a different market. Sort of like how Playmates and Neca both have the Turtles. Or more similarly how Marvel Legends and Marvel Selects both exist. Heres a crackpot theory. Perhaps Diamond loses the license and they give that corner of the Marvel line to nu Toybiz to make similar figures.
See people comparing early 90s toy biz figures compared to 2010s. Cant do that.
If anything, I would think Disney would just hire as much staff as possible, make their own line, and ditch Hasbro. There's no reason they would use the name toybiz.
The whole Hasbro has no competition reminds me of Rockstar having no competition with GTA 5. Hence why everything is so half ass'd and they continuously try to price gauge everything and everyone.
wait toy biz figures were 7 dollars... BRO WHAT DID I MISS IN 2008
I've been customizing for about as long as they've made toybiz marvel legends. Every attempt to make my ideal representation of a character. Mostly because we got a lot of reused body molds just encouraged me to get into the hobby. To be honest they are all fodder to me. Especially the larger characters Baf's mostly out of scale. Toy biz did a good job on giving us large figures for the same price as the other's. Almost every baf has been So out of scale and thank goodness for haslab and our large scale G-man and Sentinal.
but if they (toybiz) ever wants to do a marvel line. I've always thought a Marvel Master-pieces series in like a 7 inch line with more Accurate scales would be cool. Remember those badass cards.
I still have the full collection series 1 Marvel Masterpieces. Great cards!
Well there is one thing Disney was dumb about... Cough Cough .......the star wars sequels Cough Cough....Ray and Ben solo being cousins and kissing and already knowing it
Can someone please explain to me how mafex and SH Figuarts can license Marvel and DC figurines together?
And when the official rights of Marvel belong to Disney and Hasbro? Or do DC' belong to McFarlane?
I assume it's that the scale of the figures is different. SHF mostly being 5.5" scale and Mafex being 6.5". My assumption, don't know for sure if that's how/why.
That smile! ❤🎉
How many pieces of flair do you have on that jacket?
I am not claiming to be correct by this at all…but, wouldn’t it be cool if marvel/Disney did do this to gain more shelf space in the toy aisles? Sort of like DC McFarlane did with bringing back dc direct to gain more shelf space and each store etc and also the AEW and WWE elite figures did the same thing. It’s actually a good idea from a business aspect. It’s just wishful thinking on my part. I don’t believe it until I actually see more figures hanging on the shelves.
The sarcasm is strong with this one 😆
Anybody got some links to those old vids? I'm curious
I really think marvel legends should release a line at some point containing figures how they were in the 90s and early 2000s. With completely unique builds and pose able fingers and toes.
Can you show the link because I’m having trouble finding it
They've actually privated their Instagram account now
I knew from the get-go this whole thing was a scam. Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that Toybiz is long gone.
That good news I'm glad is back thank you
@Tuchpi: Let’s assume they didn’t and wait patiently for them to do so.
Maaan😢!( Actually I was believe that TB is back!
the body mold to me doesn't look that bad, but at the same time it looks like a really bad bootleg
Yessir!!!!!
Shouldn’t the terrible body mold they posted be enough to show that these guys aren’t legit
Jk its not back