I wanna use the adapter to use powered up battery box with several power functions motors I’m currently in the making of a complex tank and I’m using the standard LF remotes and I want to use the Bluetooth so I can drive it outside and stuff but it’s all expensive and i like PF better expect for the fact that it uses IR
What's outrageous is that LEGO didn't simply stick with the Power Functions system and add a Bluetooth Hub, rather than releasing an entirely different system.
@@kentslocum It's atrocious they haven't released simple old->new and new->old converter bricks. And the new connectors should've been stackable. They just want you to buy new stuff to replace the old stuff. A few years from now, I'll bet they'll release something new and even more incompatible.
@@antisoda honestly crap like this annoys me forcing you to pay extra. Have they forgot their target market? hopefully not so why do they expect kids to pay like 90$ for a new hub *a single hub* for extra motors, lights etc. They should've done something like buwizz or updated the IR receivers for a Bluetooth one as seen with S brick, release a new line of motors like the C+ L and XL with their rotation sensor and incorporate them into current powerfunctions...
I bought a Power Functions kit a few years ago but never got around to it. And then Lego made it incompatible with the new stuff I just bought. Thanks, Lego! Now I can put some lights in my new train. Thanks PV Productions and RacingBrick! Subbed. :) Unbickme too, of course.
Love these adapters!!! Looking forward to more videos from your channel!!! And I can't wait to see how you use these cables!!! They definitely have potential and a lot of possibilities
I think, the reason behind lower power output of the Technic Hub is that it also needs to power itself (the microcontroller and bluetooth adapter). Although, I wonder if Technic Hub can accept higher voltage energy source.
@@RacingBrick before you test that, take a Multimeter and measure the voltage of all the batteries in the Technic hub and the PF Battery box. Neither system has shunts or bucks to change the output voltage, so if one device has better batteries than the other (say, a full 3.6V new AA) vs some older or cheaper batteries (down to 3.3 or 3.2v AA) the output power would be affected.
@@572089 I only use rechargeable batteries and I can check the voltage on the charger, they were all fully charged for these tests as well. Btw AAs are 1.5V (alkaline) or 1.2V (rechargeable).
@@RacingBrick ah, thats good! BTW, AA battery cells are specafied as 3.5v but can be as high as 3.7 out of the box. their voltage drops over time and with chemical impuraties in the cell. thats why cheaper batteries (more impuraties) often have a lower voltage and die/droop faster. for instance, i use Durracel Quantums that i got from my work, and new, they measure 3.7ish volts.
I don't have any PF-motors, but I have some 9V motors with the old style stud-connection. They have bottom connection, requiring an old style cable to adapt. My focus is Mindstorms RI, but I guess the external motor for Boost has approximatly the same form factor, and dont need an adapter, and would even support relative position and speed control.
how much of buggy power motor you could use? or how much less of it? and why is it you cannot use all of its power? you need this bigger control+ hub? for it to work or it will not work on this cable?
I've seen adapter cables / extension cables on aliexpress, along with bare powered up connectors. I ordered the powered up to power functions adapter cables.
@@MrSmartiz77 I suggest searching for " lego wedo cable ", the results should show adapter cables, connectors, etc. The connector for Wedo and control + are reportedly the same. BE CAREFUL if ordering as some adapter cables are for EV3, unless that is what you want. I ordered from this supplier - www.aliexpress.com/item/4001323005697.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3e1b4c4dUxJ3WD. I also ordered some buggy motors. This supplier sells for $10 usd each, or 3 for $27 usd: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001563445654.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3e1b4c4d1iAE5y. I prefer to buy genuine Lego when possible, but I do buy knock off stuff occasionally.
You ve answered all the questions in my mind. I was planning to use buwizz with my 42099 (rocky) so to connect xl motors i need two addaptors which is 54 eur i think it will not worth for it
Hi Balázs! What is the performance of the buggy motor when it is connected via the adapter cable to a control+ hub? Is it OK to use a buggy motor on the Lego 42124 set via this method?
The performance is definitely lower, somewhere around the PF battery box but a power cut might happen even sooner due to the high current under load. I would not recommend that combination as you wouldn't really be able to use the abilities of the motor.
How can I connect Lego 88005, 88011, 88007 with 88009 hub. I understand pv-productions has adapter to connect multiple power functions devices, but I can't figure out a way to connect multiple powered up devices to 8009 hub as it has only two ports. Could you help me with this?
@@RacingBrick In the meantime, pv-productions has added a Powered Up Splitter Cable to their portfolio (which by the way can also be used as a polarity switch - another feature known from Power Functions which is still missing in the official Lego portfolio).
Is there a way to control 2 different hubs with just one app? For example if I buy a Buwizz brick and I already have a technic hub, could I control them with the same app ?
@@murdechoc Power Functions uses infrared by default so there's no official app control. You can control Power Functions motors/lights with BuWizz or SBrick that are app controlled.
@@RacingBrick Again that's what I use. By the time my kids program anything for the Boost on the tablet it's like 10mins and it's all over so they quickly lose all the interest which is a real shame.
@@RacingBrick ah. I have an off-brand L-motor, Servo motor, receiver, and rechargeable bat pack. (They all suck) The L-motor starts smelling like sulfur and smoke after a while. i make the smell go away by pouring one tablespoon of water on it. (The off-brand L-motor is waterproof, I tested it and it still works)
@@RacingBrick too old? really? what are you, 35? also 69 is the sex position and 420 is 4/20(20/4 for us europeans) the Americans smoked weed for the first time
Cable real worthiness - 0,05$ Price for that cable for idiots - 29,99$ C'mon guys. It's a few centimetres of cheap cable with 2 resistors (for 0.01$ each), with 4 grams of ugly 3d printed cover xD Who's buying this? :D
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I wanna use the adapter to use powered up battery box with several power functions motors I’m currently in the making of a complex tank and I’m using the standard LF remotes and I want to use the Bluetooth so I can drive it outside and stuff but it’s all expensive and i like PF better expect for the fact that it uses IR
Can you use the PF extension from PV to piggyback 2 PF battery packs for more battery capacity?
Thank you for doing this for us!
It is outrageous that Lego forces us to search for aftermarket solutions like this.
What's outrageous is that LEGO didn't simply stick with the Power Functions system and add a Bluetooth Hub, rather than releasing an entirely different system.
@@kentslocum It's atrocious they haven't released simple old->new and new->old converter bricks. And the new connectors should've been stackable. They just want you to buy new stuff to replace the old stuff. A few years from now, I'll bet they'll release something new and even more incompatible.
@@antisoda Looking at the performance, I think they are trying to keep people from building "dangerous" contraptions; and failing.
@@antisoda honestly crap like this annoys me forcing you to pay extra. Have they forgot their target market? hopefully not so why do they expect kids to pay like 90$ for a new hub *a single hub* for extra motors, lights etc. They should've done something like buwizz or updated the IR receivers for a Bluetooth one as seen with S brick, release a new line of motors like the C+ L and XL with their rotation sensor and incorporate them into current powerfunctions...
Finally I can stack powered up motors and these cables also can serve as splitters/extension cables! My prayers are answered!
Hey, it's you! I'm a subscriber!
@@idabergstrom4535 Oh wow thank you so much!
@@Unbrickme I'm a big fan too!
@@idabergstrom4535 really? thank you so much I appreciate it
I bought a Power Functions kit a few years ago but never got around to it. And then Lego made it incompatible with the new stuff I just bought. Thanks, Lego! Now I can put some lights in my new train. Thanks PV Productions and RacingBrick! Subbed. :) Unbickme too, of course.
I love these kind of tests. You are the man !!!
Love these adapters!!! Looking forward to more videos from your channel!!! And I can't wait to see how you use these cables!!! They definitely have potential and a lot of possibilities
These are really useful tips and intro to the 3rd party product. Thanks a lot for the information.
great review of the products. I realize it's also best to have both for more advanced things.
amazing! this is what i like to see! great video RB!
Omg, these are really cool.
I think, the reason behind lower power output of the Technic Hub is that it also needs to power itself (the microcontroller and bluetooth adapter). Although, I wonder if Technic Hub can accept higher voltage energy source.
That will require some further investigation which will obviously happen :)
@@RacingBrick before you test that, take a Multimeter and measure the voltage of all the batteries in the Technic hub and the PF Battery box. Neither system has shunts or bucks to change the output voltage, so if one device has better batteries than the other (say, a full 3.6V new AA) vs some older or cheaper batteries (down to 3.3 or 3.2v AA) the output power would be affected.
@@572089 I only use rechargeable batteries and I can check the voltage on the charger, they were all fully charged for these tests as well. Btw AAs are 1.5V (alkaline) or 1.2V (rechargeable).
@@RacingBrick ah, thats good! BTW, AA battery cells are specafied as 3.5v but can be as high as 3.7 out of the box. their voltage drops over time and with chemical impuraties in the cell. thats why cheaper batteries (more impuraties) often have a lower voltage and die/droop faster.
for instance, i use Durracel Quantums that i got from my work, and new, they measure 3.7ish volts.
@@572089 seems you are mistaking AA's to 18650 Li-ion rechargeable ones.
Thanks for the information. Will be great to combine my PF collection with the newer Powered Up equipment.
cool video like always Racingbrick
Wonderful to know these exist.
thank you so much for this!
I don't have any PF-motors, but I have some 9V motors with the old style stud-connection. They have bottom connection, requiring an old style cable to adapt.
My focus is Mindstorms RI, but I guess the external motor for Boost has approximatly the same form factor, and dont need an adapter, and would even support relative position and speed control.
0:21 i have two lights, two M motors (one dead :/), one L motor, two XL motors and one servo motor, for those who want info.
BONUS : i also have two switches
The adapters are cool, but the pricetag...
I think 20$ is litle to much for simple switch
Thanks for review. was brief and informative.
Lol I found out about this 6 months ago!
That's awesome, I thought all those were proprietary and wouldn't be able to find them. Thanks for sharing
At first: OOohhhh awesome! Give me a dozen of each!
After seeing price: Ooohhh snap.... Never mind.. :/
Yeah
Thank you. Well explained.
Thanks, this is really helpful
Very awesome °-°
We really need the simple Technic hub to be released soon.
It is released, but it's not cheap - www.lego.com/product/battery-box-88015
@@RacingBrick why doesn’t it show up it shows me a 404 error?
Works for me, but google 88015 lego
@@RacingBrick ok thanks I will try that.
@@RacingBrick thanks I will need to find an North American listing but thanks for the help
how much of buggy power motor you could use? or how much less of it?
and why is it you cannot use all of its power? you need this bigger control+ hub? for it to work or it will not work on this cable?
I've seen adapter cables / extension cables on aliexpress, along with bare powered up connectors. I ordered the powered up to power functions adapter cables.
I can't find adapters on alie, can you give me a link please ?
@@MrSmartiz77 I suggest searching for " lego wedo cable ", the results should show adapter cables, connectors, etc. The connector for Wedo and control + are reportedly the same. BE CAREFUL if ordering as some adapter cables are for EV3, unless that is what you want. I ordered from this supplier - www.aliexpress.com/item/4001323005697.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3e1b4c4dUxJ3WD. I also ordered some buggy motors. This supplier sells for $10 usd each, or 3 for $27 usd: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001563445654.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3e1b4c4d1iAE5y. I prefer to buy genuine Lego when possible, but I do buy knock off stuff occasionally.
@@J_Calvin_Hobbes nonsense wars tested this fake buggy.
desert eagle delayed the thermistor .
ans mostit channel that tested the 2 testcars .
I think better buy this types of cables from Ali expres because they are way cheaper
i think the rally car car with the power functions battery can go faster up a slope than the original lego set with no slope 5:56 lol
You ve answered all the questions in my mind. I was planning to use buwizz with my 42099 (rocky) so to connect xl motors i need two addaptors which is 54 eur i think it will not worth for it
how can we connect cada 4pin crystal connector(like powered up but narrower) to powered up hub?
I don't think CaDA motors can be made compatible with the LEGO hub
so cool! its also possible to use buwizz 3.0 to power the 42099
It will be possible once it will be released ;)
Does this work with lego mindstorms robot inventor?
Can this work with lego mi
ndstorm robot invenor?
Do you think if I use one of the control plus ports on buwizz 3.0 and use the adapter to a servo from power functions it could possibly work?
Hi Balázs! What is the performance of the buggy motor when it is connected via the adapter cable to a control+ hub? Is it OK to use a buggy motor on the Lego 42124 set via this method?
The performance is definitely lower, somewhere around the PF battery box but a power cut might happen even sooner due to the high current under load. I would not recommend that combination as you wouldn't really be able to use the abilities of the motor.
So can you use the pu source and connect the RC buggy motor and the new power up app and have proportional control on your phone?
yes, but you won't get full speed with the buggy motor as the PU hub is not prepared for that load
I don't have any power functions elements
How can I connect Lego 88005, 88011, 88007 with 88009 hub. I understand pv-productions has adapter to connect multiple power functions devices, but I can't figure out a way to connect multiple powered up devices to 8009 hub as it has only two ports. Could you help me with this?
There's no splitter for PU motors,if you need more ports you need to use the Technic hub
@@RacingBrick In the meantime, pv-productions has added a Powered Up Splitter Cable to their portfolio (which by the way can also be used as a polarity switch - another feature known from Power Functions which is still missing in the official Lego portfolio).
Is there a way to control 2 different hubs with just one app? For example if I buy a Buwizz brick and I already have a technic hub, could I control them with the same app ?
The BuWizz app offers a limited functionality with the Technic hub. You can control both with BrickController2.
@@RacingBrick thx !
@@RacingBrick thx ! and I guess, it's also possible with power function
@@murdechoc Power Functions uses infrared by default so there's no official app control. You can control Power Functions motors/lights with BuWizz or SBrick that are app controlled.
@@RacingBrick thanx for the quick response
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Seems pretty useless with price tag bigger than new motor in some cases.
Oh no 68,9k subs
Have you found anything that would replace the need for x6 1,5V batteries for the power functions so it runs longer?
Rechargeable batteries
@@RacingBrick That's what I use but they run out so quick. 10mins play with Boost and back to charger.
@@yaro137 use some quality ones, I have tons of LADDA rechargeable batteries from IKEA and they last much longer
@@RacingBrick Again that's what I use. By the time my kids program anything for the Boost on the tablet it's like 10mins and it's all over so they quickly lose all the interest which is a real shame.
@@yaro137 again, I'm not sure what's the difference then. For me these batteries last for hours, definitely not only for 10 minutes.
Very interesting, but quite pricey.
can u replace the hub in the 42099? cause if i get it i dont want 2 always have 2 ask my mom for her phone just to drive it
It's not that easy, you can replace the hub and use a different power source/control method with the adapters but steering won't work like this.
@@RacingBrick ok i will use a servo with the to pu motors
Do these PV extension cables work with Lego power functions servo?
The extension cable can be used with PU motors. If you mean the adapter cable, that does not work with the Servo as is.
Is the adaptor from New to old still available? I cant find it..
This one? pv-productions.com/product/power-functions-to-powered-up-adapter/?ref=10
@@RacingBrick I think he means this one pv-productions.com/product/powered-up-to-power-functions-adapter/
Both of them are available, so...:)
you have a(n) off brand L-motor? So do I. It stinks after a while
I used an original one in the video. I have some off-brand ones but I only used them for some brief tests.
@@RacingBrick ah. I have an off-brand L-motor, Servo motor, receiver, and rechargeable bat pack. (They all suck) The L-motor starts smelling like sulfur and smoke after a while. i make the smell go away by pouring one tablespoon of water on it. (The off-brand L-motor is waterproof, I tested it and it still works)
Racingbrick are you gonna be mature or do a 69420 sub especial?
I'm too old for this, had to look it up. Obviously no :D
@@RacingBrick too old? really? what are you, 35?
also 69 is the sex position and 420 is 4/20(20/4 for us europeans) the Americans smoked weed for the first time
@@MarcMas07 I'm 40, but this thing also came up with the set 42069 and it was already boring to see those comments :)
@@RacingBrick oh , you don't look that old, also its weird that you are an actual boomer (no offense intended) but nobody hates you
@@MarcMas07 by definition boomers were born after WW2 and before the 70's, so I am not *that* old ;)
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Does it work with technic hub?
Sure
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It was a little expensive..
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@@ItsHonski I do
@@ItsHonski nice name, Frying Wing, fits with your profile pic😂🤣
Cable real worthiness - 0,05$
Price for that cable for idiots - 29,99$
C'mon guys.
It's a few centimetres of cheap cable with 2 resistors (for 0.01$ each), with 4 grams of ugly 3d printed cover xD Who's buying this? :D