3 Reasons Why Powered Up is Better than Power Functions

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024

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  • @falconfury1302
    @falconfury1302 2 роки тому +39

    For me personally, power functions is superior, as I am a huge MOC maker, and rapid testing of the model while I am watching a yt video such as this one is really important. I just turn on the battery and test. No lengthy pairing. Although, coding with MOCs is something I really want to try.

  • @OpposableGums
    @OpposableGums Рік тому +5

    So what makes all those 3rd party vendors so attractive? Third Parties! That's right. No single company can make all the pieces we want to use. They standardized code libraries, electrical interfaces, busses, connectors, protocols, form factors, etc. Lego doesn't know who their customer is for motors, electronics, and trains. Even if Lego prices were reasonable, they'd still be missing the mark without publicly documenting the internal specs and opening the market to third parties. The reason USB, Arduino, Rasberry PI, PC Clones, tenth inch pin-outs, and so many other things became amazing successes is because the original creators said "here it is" without attempting to lock it down. All Lego electronics are just like IBM's failed PS/2. Bye-bye 4.5V, 12V, 9V, Power Functions, MindStorms 1, Mindstorms 2, etc. etc. etc. Nothing Lego has done in this arena lasted more than a few years. Now they're throwing away the one market they've got; people who want a motor and an on-off switch.

  • @lakrfan4980
    @lakrfan4980 2 роки тому +6

    I will never fully appreciate the advantages of Powered Up components because by far the biggest disadvantage is being limited to a smart phone as a controller. The tactile feedback from using a controller can never be matched by slider controls on a cell phone.

  • @Beregorn88
    @Beregorn88 2 роки тому +7

    When lego will drop the support for the app, you won't be able to use your set. This is the ONLY thing that you need to know to decide which one is better...

    • @Mr.Engine993
      @Mr.Engine993 Рік тому +2

      You'll need to keep an old phone only to control your sets. It's going to be terrible. The screen will barely be responding to touches and the battery won't last more than 30 mins. Quite a terrible experience for anyone who made the mistake of buying C+/PU. Nah I prefer my PF remote which I just have to swap batteries every 1-2 years is super reliable and durable

    • @PoweredUP_
      @PoweredUP_ 2 місяці тому

      Things like Pybricks exist. Hold my Xbox controller, as they say

  • @Kelkschiz
    @Kelkschiz 2 роки тому +7

    Price, form-factor, and power are typically better on PF.

  • @leoslego5965
    @leoslego5965 2 роки тому +8

    I prefer PF because you can attach however many motors you want.

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      Yeah that’s an advantage of power functions

  • @aronslegogbcs1057
    @aronslegogbcs1057 2 роки тому +3

    sorry i have to disagree with this, as a GBC builder i was disgusted with legos decision to get rid of PF, i now use chinese pf which is actually better than the lego version, esp mouldking

    • @Mr.Engine993
      @Mr.Engine993 Рік тому +1

      A 10$ mouldking buggy motor is more powerful than anything currently in production by Lego. This motor is by far the best Lego purchase I've ever done, the car is powerful and insanely fast!

  • @tamaslapsanszki8744
    @tamaslapsanszki8744 2 роки тому +6

    There are some advantages and features which we we're waiting for since forever. However, LEGO shot themselves in the foot by not developing the PU/C+ system to it's full potential. We we're so close to greatness, yet LEGO managed to miss it. As a MOCer, the missed opportunities and removed features represent 70% of my building needs.
    Until these needs are met by software upgrade or new components, I'll refrain from investing heavily in PU/C+

  • @tehkik
    @tehkik 2 роки тому +4

    Part of my job is programming. So when I relax and build with Lego, I don't want to do any more programming :)

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 Рік тому

      exactly i sit all day watching multiple monitors i don't want to do the same when i take abreak... and my job is only run an industrial part ordering and storage system....

  • @bricknplay
    @bricknplay 2 роки тому +4

    Video idea: The top 10 worst lego technic sets

  • @yusuff5513
    @yusuff5513 Рік тому +1

    In my opinion they should add both,
    power functions for cars, trucks, etc
    powered up for mindstorms, advanced building etc

  • @LEL7567-ABCDEF
    @LEL7567-ABCDEF Рік тому +2

    power functions on top

  • @florentinomichaeljr.deloss1713
    @florentinomichaeljr.deloss1713 3 місяці тому

    I like both of them. PU and PF. Both of them are good.

  • @benjaminstorace6699
    @benjaminstorace6699 8 місяців тому

    "this has brought Mindstorms and Technic closer than ever before"
    * Cough * points at the old 9volt system with the standardized brick connectors across the entire Lego product range.
    Personally I prefer more mechanical solutions and less all-in-one microcomputers. If a gyro sensor dies it's far easier to repair or replace if its a separate component, same for the battery compartment, motors etc. Also, for all the advancement, they still haven't embraced rechargeable batteries as standard.

  • @andrewkuebler4335
    @andrewkuebler4335 2 роки тому +1

    I think the problem is that power functions and mindstorms served two very different needs and groups of builders. Trying to combine them has introduced so many issues that make power functions still the better overall choice by far. And the bottom line is that Lego has likely invested so much time and money into the new system, combined with officially discontinuing the old system, that we will likely be years away from a functional replacement for power functions that provides everything it did, let alone any advantages. In the mean time, sets with no B models, requiring expensive third party hardware, and FAR too expensive motors and controls, baring entry and expansion for many of us.

  • @512TechProj
    @512TechProj 2 роки тому +3

    I see the advantages of the C+ System, but at the same time some major flaws where built into the system as well. These are the two main reasons why I think the C+ system is worse than the old PF system:
    1. There is no up- or downwards compatability to the old PowerFunctions System. You can't reuse your old motors and have to invest in new components. Depending on how much of a purist you are, the old PF system is compatible with electrical components from other manufacturers, the C+ are not. (It should be mentioned to watch out for different qualities from other manufacturers, my go to alternatives atm are CaDa and Mould King)
    2. There is no physical device to control your models, only the option via smartphone (at least for C+). To me that is a big risk on depending for LEGO to keep the C+ App updated. If in a few years the support for the C+ App is cancelled, you have to resort to other means of controlling your models. These are either 3rd Party App (same support issue) or some advanced programming to use game controllers etc. Both of which are only viable options for a minority of customers.
    Again an example from an alternative manufacturer: MouldKing currently offers rechargeable BatteryBoxes with 6 outputs (compatible with PowerFunctuions) on 4 outputs the motor speed can be controlled (normal motors and servos). You get the option to use a physical remote control or a smartphone-app.
    For people that buy and build the sets without rebuilding them into something different I see why Powered Up is an improvement. For everyone else I think there are more drawbacks than improvements.
    I personally switched to different manufacturers for electrical components, since those offer what I'm looking for. For purists, that want to stick to original LEGO parts (what I can understand) I agree with your reasons.

  • @blockstacker5614
    @blockstacker5614 2 роки тому +2

    I wonder if it would be good to have normal "dumb" motors and stepper motors for applications requiring precise incriments

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      I think that implementation would've been amazing in the power functions system. That essentially combines the advanced capabilities of powered up with the ease of use of power functions

  • @brix_max
    @brix_max 2 роки тому +13

    For me, the programming is a downsite because if I just want a motor to run, I have to write a program for it. With power funktions I just plug it into the battery box and it works.

    • @antonyngan9482
      @antonyngan9482 2 роки тому

      Then it means you are stupid and lazy

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому +3

      There’s the simple powered up battery box for that

    • @brix_max
      @brix_max 2 роки тому

      @@Unbrickme didn‘t they want to discontinue it?

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому +2

      They brought it back, even available for purchase in North America

    • @ViperzDesign
      @ViperzDesign Рік тому

      @@Unbrickme only two ports and dont forget its £30 where i live which is more for a regular pf AA box, theres so little value in theses its crazy....

  • @todeilfungo
    @todeilfungo 9 місяців тому

    Are power function trains compatible with powered up rails? Dose new and old rails connect to each other?

  • @Ziplock9000
    @Ziplock9000 9 місяців тому

    Power functions should be real-time. If you have to program that is more NXT/ EV territory.

  • @ahmetdag5600
    @ahmetdag5600 2 роки тому

    Lego unified technic motorization (power functions) and mindstorm system with the powerup system. Only difference left is the usage of sensors (although some but rare non mindstorm sets like ideas piano uses sensors but as I said those are rare and they are using far less sensors than a basic mindstorm model.)

  • @Mr.Engine993
    @Mr.Engine993 Рік тому +1

    PU is inferior due to cost and complexity. Having to invest more than 30$ for a single motor goes too far for most Lego fans. I got genuine PF motor, lights, switch and a battery box for 30$ back in 2017. What makes it even worse is that you have to spend at least one evening programming a decent looking, practical controller just to make your car move. The older PF IR system worked in a plug-n'-play fashion (with a PHYSICAL controller!) and reliability was about as good as it could get. Rotation sensors definitely provide precision but there is a servo motor for that and personally, I haven't used a servo for any of my builds. Just a regular motor for steering, even swapping gears (ok that's impractical, but I fixed it with a 5$ diy circuit). If you're willing to DIY a bit, there's nothing better about PU. I even made my own version of Lego MINDSTORMS with DIY electronics and the PF motors I had (+some SG90 servos) and the cost was under 100$

  • @darthgbc363
    @darthgbc363 2 роки тому +4

    I don't need Powered Up, just like I don't need a Bluetooth Toaster. Computer programmers should quit complicating a simple on/off switch. It use to be motor & battery box. Now it's expensive motor, expensive battery box, expensive smart device, & time consuming programming.
    LEGO - bring back Power Functions.

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому +1

      There’s the simple powered up battery box that’s just an on off switch without Bluetooth. It appeared in the osprey

    • @aronslegogbcs1057
      @aronslegogbcs1057 2 роки тому +1

      buy the chinese pf stuff, works great

  • @ViperzDesign
    @ViperzDesign Рік тому

    I just simply dont understand...why would they've gotten rid of powerfunctions i mean genuinely it was the best thing lego had and they bloody got rid of it so we pay like an extreme amount for motors which dont have any physical benefit other than the coding aspect but thats it i mean what good is coding when you can only have 4 ports and need another one for for they havent released a splitter and the only company i know that does do one is PV productions. now they make us pay extra for pf and they wont benefit from it, theres gotta be a petition for this sht man.

  • @zackftw2748
    @zackftw2748 2 роки тому +1

    I just wish that they would bring back the 30$ motor box

  • @starlordpro2077
    @starlordpro2077 Рік тому

    yoooo niccee i see you also got the 42009 and the 8258 canes❤

  • @tntgamer7587
    @tntgamer7587 Рік тому

    Is there a way with power up after it done Getting programmed can power up, save that without needing the device to activate it

  • @yaboijesus9804
    @yaboijesus9804 2 роки тому

    i'd honestly just use arduinos, regular dc motors and sensors with 3d printed adapters. it's way cheaper than the authentic lego parts and offers way more options

    • @Mr.Engine993
      @Mr.Engine993 Рік тому +1

      This can go really far. I have an (unfinished) FPV Lego car with power functions DC motors using an esp32 cam and motor driver. Really cool and the whole controlling system costs around 30€ (yes, THIRTY EUROS) INCLUDING the battery. The only problem is, you have to code it yourself and this is where I've been stuck for a while especially because I want a physical controller. In the past, I made a basic version of Lego MINDSTORMS with Arduino and PF motors for under 100$. Wasn't as advanced but cost at least 5 times less

  • @SILVERTMAN
    @SILVERTMAN 2 роки тому +1

    Gretings from Poland :-)

  • @igorrakhimov6725
    @igorrakhimov6725 2 роки тому

    Finally you posted I luv your vids so good also I’m getting the set rod for my bd so happy

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      Nice! And I’m glad you enjoy my content

  • @Galaxy-oy4nj
    @Galaxy-oy4nj Рік тому +1

    Power functions will be better for me until they make an energy meter for powered up

  • @BrokenRecord11943
    @BrokenRecord11943 2 роки тому +1

    I honestly expected buwizz level performance from pu I was deeply disappointed

  • @ermondem151
    @ermondem151 3 місяці тому

    Well you need to buy a phone a tablet or a laptop or a computer etc. To actualy even code it.

  • @caskraker
    @caskraker Рік тому

    PU is superior. But you don’t realize this until you play around with it.

  • @Gizmos_and_stuff
    @Gizmos_and_stuff 2 роки тому

    Nice! Thanks for the info

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      glad you enjoyed the video

  • @samsungfridge1895
    @samsungfridge1895 2 роки тому

    Amazing!

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed

  • @yanneman57
    @yanneman57 2 роки тому +1

    Power Functions are better. I have both the Volvo hauler and The Liebherr, the Lieb is ok, but the Volvo is a disaster. When I first drove it it behaved, no problem. Then came a firmware update... Now the controls are screwed up. I put it into drive and the bed goes up or down - in increments. Steering works. Drivning forward and backwand is only working sporadicalĺy. Calibration doesn't help. The controls for the bed don't work at all. Sometimes There iS a green or orange dot beside the control but no function. I can't program myself i doñ't understand how to do it, it's Greek to me.

  • @piotrkaliszuk3035
    @piotrkaliszuk3035 4 місяці тому

    I can give 10 reasons power Power Function is 100 times better than crap Power Up🙄

  • @basberend
    @basberend 2 роки тому +1

    lol only 3... new video >> 10+ more reasons why PF is better and easier to use then PU......

  • @MRTHUNDER.
    @MRTHUNDER. 2 роки тому

    Price is the one thing I hate about the new power function

    • @maszkalman3676
      @maszkalman3676 Рік тому

      that's why they made it... they don't need to give you even a fucknig 2 dollar cheap remote or anthing and sell this crap like double sometimes triple the price...

  • @Nettori
    @Nettori 2 роки тому

    Which set would anyone recommend the 8043 or the 42030? I noticed that the 42030 had different motors but if i were to choose which is more diverse what would anyone recommend?

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому +1

      8043 is way better!

    • @Nettori
      @Nettori 2 роки тому +1

      @@Unbrickme Thanks. Btw is there any way to get PF that are still good even if they are alternatives. Ive heard some used ones nowadays are kinda worn out.

  • @MyKevin99
    @MyKevin99 2 роки тому

    Great

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      Glad you liked the video

  • @user-yf8so9rc2d
    @user-yf8so9rc2d Рік тому

    дуже дякую за інформацію але я люблю пф та 9в

  • @legohivemind
    @legohivemind 2 роки тому

    Anyone willing to trade me an m motor for my powered up train motor?

    • @Unbrickme
      @Unbrickme  2 роки тому

      Try selling it on bricklink

    • @legohivemind
      @legohivemind 2 роки тому

      @@Unbrickme I should but I know it would take a month before I get a hit. Sorry for using your comment section for trading Lego. It’s just I have had no luck.

  • @moditorplayz
    @moditorplayz 2 роки тому

    I am speed

  • @ESloth308
    @ESloth308 2 роки тому

    First comment in the video