The Baffling Brilliance of DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE (and the staggering emptiness of nerd sh*t) SPOILERS

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  • @et4003
    @et4003 Місяць тому +15

    Deadpool’s main thing (in the comics at least and to some extent in the movies) is that he uses comedy and sarcasm to hide his pain and evil impulses. In all 3 DP films he’s either deeply insecure, feeling purposeless or depressed in one way or another

  • @kodyk124
    @kodyk124 Місяць тому +8

    Your perspective continues to refresh and inspire me. I will probably never see this movie, but I still enjoyed listening to your analysis of it. You're one of my absolute favorite people on UA-cam. Keep up the great work.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      Hey Kody, welcome back! Thanks for watching! I hope all is going well for you.

    • @kodyk124
      @kodyk124 Місяць тому +1

      @@thebarkingyears Dude, for as long as you're doing this, I will watch every single video you upload -- usually within 1-2 days of it being published. You're the most eloquent and principled writer/cultural commentator I've found on UA-cam.
      All is well. I actually just bought a fancy projector and I'm getting ready to start a community cinema project. Each event we throw, we want to show a children's movie for families, and then a more mature movie afterwards. So we've been watching more kids movies lately, to try to get a list of movies we think are actually spiritually healthy for kids to watch. It is a STRUUUUGGLE haha, and it makes me think a lot of your video comparing The Lion King to Encanto. It feels like we've entered the "nothing sacred" age of narcissism. I want movies that INSPIRE kids to greatness, of character and of action.
      And some of these movies start out so strong, but then fumble hard when it counts. Like the beginning of Coco really intrigued me. It felt really special. But then I got concerned when I saw it normalizing biometric scanning. And when it revealed that the matriarch of the family was INTENTIONALY trying to make her husband's soul DISAPPEAR FOREVER despite the fact that HE WAS MURDERED, I was flabbergasted that the film never really held her in a critical light or even had her apologize for her wrath. THEY MADE HER HUSBAND APOLOGIZE. HE SAID IT WAS ALL HIS FAULT. That was where it lost me completely. And I just don't get it, man! Like...how hard can it be to make a children's story that actually models good moral philosophy?? I guess you have to HAVE good moral philosophy in order to write it into your stories, and presumably most Hollywood writers are (severely) deficient?
      Anyway, on a poooositive note...I thought Inside Out was a rare exception. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. It really focuses on family, and it examines the tween-era descent into depression and self-absorption in a way that was so real, honest and compassionate that it made me uncomfortable (reflecting on my own memories). It definitely made the list for our cinema project.
      Anyway, really deeply admire and appreciate you, friend. I know making videos for UA-cam can feel like a thankless slog, but IMO you're one of the top ~3-5 creators on here.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      @@kodyk124 This made my day, man. I really appreciate the kind words. Your project sounds extremely cool. I love stuff like that. It's so rare to find genuinely community-minded people anymore. And I definitely feel you on the difficulty of finding movies for kids that aren't morally backwards or simply insane. I saw Turning Red (or whatever it's called) a while back and was just blown away by how completely perverse it was. I do not envy parents trying to navigate that minefield. For myself, I think that the most important quality that I look for in kids movies is whether or not they contain some expression of deep longing for something that is either sublime in itself or points to the sublime. Bonus points if it deals with the subject of choosing nobility and duty over self-seeking. For my money, you can't do better than Homeward Bound. In fact, someday I hope to make a video examining it through the lens of Kierkegaard's moral philosophy. People joke about it "scarring them" but I personally think that being confronted with deep losses and emotionally painful artistic experiences (provided that the pain is the result of sadism on the part of the creators) at a relatively young age is probably a good thing for a person's development.
      Anyway, best of luck with your project, Kody. I look forward to hearing more about it!

  • @IISCOOL67
    @IISCOOL67 Місяць тому +2

    I feel as if the brilliance of your analysis here is that, in summing up how you enjoyed this film, you summarized in equal measure why I had such a miserable time with it.
    And it's not so much about "not being able to turn my brain off." I like silly stuff. I enjoy stuff that makes me laugh, but this didn't do it for me.
    But you hit the nail on the head with the "emptiness" of all this fan service, of all of these film adaptations of comics, shows, and games. It's something I'd already found myself considering before I begrudgingly saw the film.
    For as long as I've been a fan of anything, especially comics, there's been this sense that film versions have the potential to be this great catharsis for long-time fans; a reward for all their investment in everything else. People are always trying to reconcile what's popular with what's interesting; if it's popular, then they must interrogate how interesting it really is, and if it's interesting, then they must question why it isn't more popular. I think people always look back at stuff like "Batman: The Animated Series" and the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films and all those top-tier examples, then they look at their favorite character or series and ask, "why can't my thing get that kind of treatment?"
    But the conclusion I've come to in recent years, which you summed up so well, is - "what would be the point?" Think about it - you already have that brilliant comic run, or that fantastic show, or that exceptional novel or video game, whatever have you. You have this thing that you love, that you can come back to and rediscover as often as you like. Odds are, it still gets great stuff in the same medium - maybe even great fanmade stuff, too. So what would the so-called prestige of a big-budget film really offer? Giving you the opportunity to feel ahead of the curve on something that will be popular for maybe a few months? Showing, not the thing you love, but a version of the thing you love to a massive audience? Would they even really understand or appreciate it in the same way as you anyway? More than that, do they need to? Isn't your love for it enough?
    What would it even look like? Any one issue or arc of a comic series can tell any kind of story about any kind of character. But a massive blockbuster film has to be everything to everyone, so for fans, they have to try and hold everything significant about that character and their world all at once, which is completely unreasonable, especially for something that will likely amount to the same amount of content as a six-issue trade. And that somehow has to do the job normally expected of an entire multi-year run. Is it any wonder why they always seem to come up short?
    Fandom has put the prospect of a film version of their favorite thing on a pedestal for as long as film versions of other works have been a thing. But if you look at all the forgotten fodder that's been pumped out in the name of it, and you really think about what exactly they're asking for, then it starts to seem like an ungrateful child on Christmas Day, receiving exactly the gift he wanted, but bemoaning and rejecting it because, "I wanted the blue one!"
    You don't need your favorite comic book hero to receive the Sam Raimi or Christopher Nolan treatment. Nor do you need your favorite novel to get the treatment Peter Jackson gave to the Lord of the Rings. Some works get their time, and when it works out, it's awesome. But I think it's foolhardy to treat every nerdy thing we love as the next big moment in pop culture, waiting in the wings for the right opportunity. If it happens, great. If not, you will always have that thing you love, but you are not owed a reward for loving it. The thing itself was the reward.
    So that's why I found Deadpool & Wolverine, and the hype around it, to leave me so cold. As you summed up, this was, in a way, exactly what it was getting at. But, through my own exploration, I'd already gotten there. So the only thing from comics it ended up reminding me of was the climax of "The Killing Joke."
    The film throws all this my way, all the while asking, "why aren't you laughing?"
    And I can only say, "because I've heard it before, and it wasn't funny the first time."

  • @em25564
    @em25564 Місяць тому +9

    I went in to this movie with zero expectations that I would enjoy it. Instead, I was shockingly surprised by how much fun it was. Which means I was pumped to see this video come up on my feed. Another video perfectly describing what I am unable to 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @notacompleteidiot...1285
      @notacompleteidiot...1285 Місяць тому

      Interesting.
      I also went into this movie with zero expectations and came out of it with about 2 hours shorter lifespan, and the realization that Dafne Keen can't act.
      It's sad that this kind of soulless, "hey, remember this thing you liked in the previous movie" stuff is considered good nowadays.
      🤷

  • @Mrjonnyjonjon123
    @Mrjonnyjonjon123 Місяць тому +7

    24:30 you did lol
    Blade: I dont like you...
    Deadpool: And you never did
    (There were reports of Reynolds and Snipes fighting on set on Blade 3)

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +2

      Ah, ok. Nice catch! That is pretty subtle though. I don't generally care about any movie enough to bother finding out about how well the actors got along on the set.

  • @arthurdurham
    @arthurdurham Місяць тому +18

    Tbh if you think that a deadpool movie couldn't be built around a romantic plot or lower stakes then you really did stop reading the original run early.
    90s Deadpool, esp Joe Kelly's Deadpool, while still having its meta qualities, was much more toned down on that aspect compared to later iterations; esp after the popularity of Daniel Way's version or after Deadpool Kills the marvel universe.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      I did, but I checked back in here and there over the years and never saw anything to make me think differently. Get’s married to Captain Marvel because she’s blackout drunk, get’s married to the literal daughter of Satan, has a protracted mostly-one-sided love triangle with Thanos and literal Death. These are jokes, not serious contenders for actual romances, and all of them played on the trope of the hideous guy who for reasons beyond human comprehension keeps being able to pull beautiful women. He’s a Lothario, not a Don Juan, and his numerous, usually brief and bizarre, love affairs are played for laughs. The movie attempted to make him both at the same time, and it just doesn’t work because they are essentially different character types.

    • @arthurdurham
      @arthurdurham Місяць тому

      @@thebarkingyears What about Mercedes Wilson?

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +2

      The dead wife of T-Ray, the original Wade Wilson, killed by Deadpool before he assumed T-Ray’s previous identity as Wade Wilson and then resurrected years later so that T-Ray could craft some insanely convoluted plot that to get DP to fall in love with her so that he could then reveal that he had been her killer? That Mercedes Wilson? What about her? Sorry man, I don’t really feel like that’s a big game changer. Doesn’t it end with Pool laughing the whole thing off and her leaving with T-Ray?

    • @et4003
      @et4003 Місяць тому

      It can be done but it couldn’t be a healthy relationship

    • @arthurdurham
      @arthurdurham Місяць тому

      @@thebarkingyears Your issue is a comic book having a comic book like story? Still toned down compared to later Deadpool iterations

  • @tylerapple4431
    @tylerapple4431 Місяць тому

    Just found your channel last week but you've got such a refreshing and intricate take on a lot of topics. Looking forward to what you do in the future!

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Hey, thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I'm just out here yapping in the wilderness, but it's always encouraging when somebody can connect to it. I appreciate the kind words!

  • @glockmat
    @glockmat Місяць тому +5

    The charge at the end of the second movie was something that Yukio and Teenage Warhead were doing LOL

  • @dreadhead4570
    @dreadhead4570 Місяць тому

    24:30 there was a reference to Ryan’s appearance in the 3rd blade film it’s when blade says “I don’t like you” and Deadpool says “you never did” referring to the beef the two had on set of the 3rd blade film

  • @karakreativevlog
    @karakreativevlog Місяць тому

    This movie came out at the right time for me. The characters are having the worst time right now, questioning themselves and their world. I'm doing the same thing. I had just lost my job and just feel super lost and like nothing matters. It was nice to see somebody 'like' me win.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Sorry to hear that. Hang in there though. Don't let this stuff tear you down.

  • @thescyther7374
    @thescyther7374 Місяць тому +1

    Truly, one of the better video essays i have watched all year. Especially since you come across the movie philosophically, like many past writers would have to nature or ideals! Just want to express how much I really liked your take on this film and how well organized and thought out your video is!!!❤❤❤

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Wow, thanks! I was really a little worried when I uploaded this thing like "Have I produced an incomprehensible mess that is going to alienate most viewers?" In all honesty, that still might be the case, but I'm glad you got something out of it. Thanks for watching!

  • @kassyyar97
    @kassyyar97 Місяць тому +2

    I remember being bullied for drawing super heroes from justice league, specially Martian ManHunter, and after like 10 years they became popular and I was so pissed for a couple of years.
    Kind of unrelated haha but I totally get you. I grew up from 0 with hero movies and comic books, animated shows, etc. This movie felt like a love letter and I honestly loved it.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Honestly, the fact that I was pretty good at sketching was probably one of the only reasons that I was able to make friends in middle school, lol. I was definitely a shy kid. But thanks for watching. I'm glad you got something out of my weird little video!

  • @Preparatite
    @Preparatite Місяць тому +2

    Honestly this has been one of the best commentary video essays of the year

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @planetsanitizer2789
    @planetsanitizer2789 Місяць тому +2

    Awesome video dude. Super thought provoking and the philosophical angle really struck a chord with me

  • @tristantorres3558
    @tristantorres3558 Місяць тому

    Deadpool part one is amazing and will forever be a classic just not a good Deadpool movie but a great movie in it of itself, we didn’t hv anything like Deadpool before it came out

  • @Jakeyisdead
    @Jakeyisdead Місяць тому

    The 2nd Bay TMNT movie is to this day the only movie I've ever walked out of

  • @Aethernyl
    @Aethernyl Місяць тому

    As always, great video!

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

  • @em25564
    @em25564 Місяць тому +1

    Also, 10/10 on the thumbnail

  • @vortecmacs
    @vortecmacs Місяць тому

    I didn’t think the pizza guy was a teenager. And Sister Margaret’s School for Wayward Children is a cover for a place where mercenaries get their jobs. So the girl contacted Sister Margaret’s.
    And Cable’s device was out of charge…and then Negasonic Teenage Warhead modified it, which also let him skip through timelines. And we don’t know that his timeline has Apocalypse, that’s never mentioned.

  • @Chameleon1616
    @Chameleon1616 Місяць тому

    Again you really do have a talent for speaking with poignance on the things that matter. I wanted to ask if you were considering doing an essay on Joker 2? This is not a request as the only right choice of subject are those that speak to you, but it and the storm around it’s seeming rejection of its own legacy in modern culture is fascinating and I thought it seemed up your street.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Thanks for stopping by Chameleon! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I've actually been considering releasing a video on Joker 2 in a much less stylized format. No script, just speaking from a list of notes. I don't know how it will work for everyone, but it'll allow me to produce more stuff while working on my more try-hard vids.

  • @UncleCloud
    @UncleCloud Місяць тому +5

    Such a weird movie, I can't organize my thoughts about it at all. It's the best possible movie disney could possibly allow anyone to make. It's also a nonsensical mess if judged just as a movie. I will be one of those people and call it an infinite budget fan film. A bunch of people putting on their cosplay and having a pretend brawl with someone's hot sister on the forefront of it is fan film stuff.

  • @PawsOnTheBalcony
    @PawsOnTheBalcony Місяць тому

    Upvoted just for the rambling video description. Haven't even watched the video yet.
    And yes, the people who say they "could care less" without understanding what it actually means keep me up at night as well. Along with the people who write "of" when they mean "have" 😑

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      You are exactly the kind of person I wrote it for :)

  • @vortecmacs
    @vortecmacs Місяць тому

    I mean…they were produced by Michael Bay and his “style” is all over these movies.

  • @alexandredesouza3692
    @alexandredesouza3692 Місяць тому

    Damnit now I have to watch Free Guy to finish this video

  • @ivorypoet6972
    @ivorypoet6972 Місяць тому +2

    had they done things another way, the same critics would complain that they should have done it this way.
    people are so lost in their lives with no purpose, they will nitpick anything. and they do

  • @kadalsaurus6232
    @kadalsaurus6232 Місяць тому

    "heroes arent normies"
    -bilbo baggins

  • @et4003
    @et4003 Місяць тому

    16:31 you should finish the Joe Kelly because it’s all about how horrific a person he is

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Pardon?

    • @et4003
      @et4003 Місяць тому

      @@thebarkingyears no that’s what I meant, the run is about how Deadpool’s a bad guy that’s trying to redeem himself and the struggles that come from it

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      Ah, ok. Gotcha

  • @jacobharris954
    @jacobharris954 Місяць тому

    It's pathos not bathos brother

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      Uh, no. It's bathos, buddy. Pathos is a different thing.

  • @remimk
    @remimk Місяць тому +7

    I did not sign up for a bitter rant about modern society...

    • @adamiadamiadami
      @adamiadamiadami Місяць тому +11

      Speak for yourself, cause I did.

    • @paulsto6516
      @paulsto6516 Місяць тому +9

      On the other hand, some of us don't want to be oblivious to reality.

    • @n_n_n_n_n_n
      @n_n_n_n_n_n Місяць тому +5

      What an odd thing to say.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +5

      Hah, it caught me off guard too.

    • @disaffectedliberal8672
      @disaffectedliberal8672 Місяць тому

      Imagine thinking anyone should care.

  • @tristantorres3558
    @tristantorres3558 Місяць тому

    U keep saying Deadpool failed but the first two movies were a massive success so ur just saying that since u didn’t like it which is ur personal opinion then the movie somehow failed?

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому

      Ah, I see, so there are literally no artistic standards other than market performance? If a film makes money then it must be good!

    • @BabyArms
      @BabyArms 25 днів тому

      He's saying they failed artistically, failed in making whatever statements they were setting out to make. Financially they were big hits. This channel is not Nerdrotic. (No offense to Nerdrotic.)

  • @alaskahelo
    @alaskahelo Місяць тому

    I agree. Wade and Logan should have died and remain dead.
    Perhaps it's just that American's love a happy ending that kept this from being the end of them.

    • @thebarkingyears
      @thebarkingyears  Місяць тому +1

      My feeling is that modern audiences can’t really deal with the idea of loss. Even in Free Guy, they had to bring back the best friend who had that incredible death scene. Death is too serious, too permanent. It’s got to be turned into something Nerfy.

  • @blankepiphany4154
    @blankepiphany4154 Місяць тому

    It was okay, I liked the second Deadpool better, this was still goated, I didn't give a hell about the first 40 minutes at all, boring fr, other than the nipple rings, I love me sum peter fr