'He Was A Loser': What 'Kennedy's Avenger' Uncovers About Jack Ruby

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  • Dan Abrams joins Morning Joe to discuss his new book 'Kennedy's Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby.'
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 438

  • @martinbrodie8507
    @martinbrodie8507 3 роки тому +59

    I watched it live with my grandparents when I was 5 years old and still remember it.

  • @Emy53
    @Emy53 3 роки тому +34

    Jack Ruby was not innocent. He was caught in the act. Just because he died before his 2nd trial doesn't make him less guilty. So many conspiracy theories. We may never learn the truth.

    • @ronaldharding3927
      @ronaldharding3927 3 роки тому +8

      The truth is there for everyone to see. You just have to read it all to put it together. Oswald was an agent/operative of the CIA under the direction of charter member, George H W Bush, also of the CIA. Bush was in Dallas that morning. He left before the hit which he planned, then manufactured an alibi for himself and misdirected the FBI's investigation sending them on a wild goose chase after a man in Houston that afternoon.

    • @treeza55
      @treeza55 3 роки тому +1

      Go ask Bush Jnr , he seems to have difficulty as to his wherabouts on nov22 1963

    • @Bb23199
      @Bb23199 2 роки тому +1

      Mafia associate

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 2 роки тому

      @@ronaldharding3927 LMAO. You are a conspiracy nut. Seek help

    • @ronaldharding3927
      @ronaldharding3927 Рік тому

      @@Ventuura that's completely out of left field. I have read dozens of books about Kennedy and the assassination, dozens of books about some of the players (ie books about J Edgar Hoover's involvement with organized crime and their hold over him). Jack had a lot of enemies for a lot of different reasons, but you have laid one out that I've never come across in any of my reading which started in 1968 with Arthur Schlesinger's book, A THOUSAND DAYS.

  • @BeegirlsHoneyHouse
    @BeegirlsHoneyHouse 3 роки тому +36

    Why is our judicial system so excruciatingly slow now⁉️

    • @peterblood50
      @peterblood50 3 роки тому +6

      They could go a lot faster but it takes time to make sure all of the rights of the accused are protected.

    • @johnphantom
      @johnphantom 3 роки тому +5

      It is about as likely that Oswald pulled those shots off as Epstein hanging himself.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому +3

      @@johnphantom when the coverup comes from the top-where can you go?

    • @johnphantom
      @johnphantom 3 роки тому

      @@lolodee3528 Are you a musician? Write a song, it'll be a hit with that hook.

    • @Hartleymolly
      @Hartleymolly Рік тому

      well um, because they killed him…they also created Manson to be fair…

  • @DrumWild
    @DrumWild 3 роки тому +21

    I can't tell you how many times I have "just happened to stroll over to the police station." Hate it when that happens.

  • @thechariotcard
    @thechariotcard 3 роки тому +32

    When will the Kennedy files be released? I’ve been waiting the majority of my life. It’s time they are given up…

    • @toughtittypdiddy4634
      @toughtittypdiddy4634 3 роки тому +1

      The majority of the files were released by trump in 2018 minus names, addresses etc etc

    • @hazelanderson1479
      @hazelanderson1479 3 роки тому +5

      @@toughtittypdiddy4634 Don’t give DJT the credit for that. Those documents were required to be released from an order given twenty-five years previously. Even so, they were heavily redacted, and not much information could be gleaned from them.

    • @vernpascal1531
      @vernpascal1531 3 роки тому +2

      @@hazelanderson1479 True,but most are unaware that the most important,which were released in the 1990's destroy the official fairytales and those are the Medical Personnel at both Hospitals interviewed for the HSCA in the late 70's, and suppressed till the 90's and the ARRB released them in the mid 90's.

    • @TELEVISIONARCHIVES
      @TELEVISIONARCHIVES 3 роки тому

      Actually, a reporter has seen all of the files because he was working on the JFK Museum. He wasn't allowed to take any photos. The only files you haven't seen are to do with rumors and personal things about the Kennedys. The Kennedy family doesn't want them released.

    • @morganbanefort181
      @morganbanefort181 3 роки тому +2

      @@TELEVISIONARCHIVES sure lol

  • @nothaviniteither
    @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому +23

    I definitely wouldn't call him " Kennedy's avenger " more like the janitor who cleans up lose ends...its 2021 you can't possibly still believe in the magic bullet nonsense and Oswald being the lone gunman....please

    • @nothaviniteither
      @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому

      @Tautriadelta so I guess the tape of it ( which shows him hit at least 1 time from the front) doesn't exist huh...

    • @nothaviniteither
      @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому +3

      @Tautriadelta yes that "tape " or film , don't get in your feelings because I'm not falling for that BS ,look believe whatever floats your boat ...but in that film he is clearly hit from the front, I've seen ppl get hit by me and others so I know what it looks like ..Oswald was unstable and couldn't be trusted, got rid of him, then get rid of who got rid of him everyone was solid, secret kept....its 2021 no one believes the story your telling anymore...

    • @nothaviniteither
      @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому

      @Tautriadelta not even going to read your fake book you wrote..you wasted your time..as I've said believe what you want I'm not falling for that BS...lmao at you...

    • @nothaviniteither
      @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому +1

      @Tautriadelta ok..you believe what the government told you, then made you believe......so who's the sheep....look do you, I have no problem with ppl that believe what you do, to each his own, your not gonna turn me, let it go, don't be troll for nothing

    • @nothaviniteither
      @nothaviniteither 3 роки тому +1

      @Tautriadelta just to be clear, you have no idea what I believe, it was never given, I simply stated I don't believe whatever that so-called scenario you wrote..which sounds like what the government told to Americans then and it just kept going till now...but I need to think for myself, your a funny guy/ girl/they etc.etc..

  • @jeffn1384
    @jeffn1384 Рік тому +5

    "if you're an assassin you get there on time". Well he did. Right on time. Either he knew when Oswald was coming out or they waited till Ruby got there.

  • @ramonmcgee2240
    @ramonmcgee2240 3 роки тому +27

    The idea that Ruby "would have been on time" in the event of a conspiracy as evidence CONTRADICTING a conspiracy is belied by the fact----and it is a fact---that Oswald was walked out into the crowd of people within minutes of Ruby arriving on the scene. The issue is what delayed Oswald's transport time, and how Ruby managed to arrive at a time that only law enforcement knew was to be the "new" transport time for Oswald? I think that Dan is missing the fact that a simple phone call to Ruby minutes before Oswald was to be transported would have placed Ruby in position at the perfect time.

    • @PrimeObserver-1
      @PrimeObserver-1 3 роки тому +2

      Remember, there were no portable phones back then. If he was making a wire transfer at the time, he would have had to receive the call at the facility where he was doing business on their phone.

    • @morganbanefort181
      @morganbanefort181 3 роки тому +1

      @@PrimeObserver-1 so what's that mean

    • @PrimeObserver-1
      @PrimeObserver-1 3 роки тому +3

      @@morganbanefort181 That this is a preposterous scenario.

    • @SuperErikRoss
      @SuperErikRoss Рік тому +3

      Actually car phones were invented in like 1946 and maybe ruby could have a walkie talkie or a police band radio in his car I watched a video the signal was Sheriff Lavelle in his white suit standing in the 3rd floor window which just happens to be right across the parking lot from the Western Union Telegram station where Ruby was that day wiith his 2 dogs out in the car.

    • @ramonmcgee2240
      @ramonmcgee2240 Рік тому +1

      @@PrimeObserver-1 Or at a payphone.

  • @waltergodsoe5526
    @waltergodsoe5526 3 роки тому +47

    I'll never forget watching it live on TV, maybe 13 years old. The screaming in my home, the heart break and knowing something special had been destroyed.

    • @paulcopland1697
      @paulcopland1697 3 роки тому +11

      I was a couple of years younger than you and my family attended Kennedy's funeral. A great tragedy for America.

    • @judiesuh6858
      @judiesuh6858 3 роки тому +14

      I was 2years old and on the other side of the world..but whenever I studied at school or read about JFK and his presidency. I can't help but wonder had he been alive to complete his terms how would it have changed the world we live in now..😔🙏🧐

    • @konradyearwood5845
      @konradyearwood5845 3 роки тому +9

      @@judiesuh6858 many of the libraries in the developing world that was sponsored by America in the 1960s and 1970s was named The JF Kennedy Library.

    • @konradyearwood5845
      @konradyearwood5845 3 роки тому +13

      @@BlueBoris1997 Although what he did was horrendous, I would argue that Ruby had more guts than that despicable lump of faeces that you are alluding to. Trump hid behind Barr and his (so-called) office. What is painful and truly baffling is a nation of over 300 million people allowed him perform an act of gross criminality.

    • @McLKeith
      @McLKeith 3 роки тому +5

      I think you mean JFK as the something special that was destroyed. Not Jack Ruby.

  • @sergiolobato1798
    @sergiolobato1798 3 роки тому +26

    Dorthy Kilgallen of the whats my line fame was allowed unprecedented access to Rubys arrest notes! She claimed to crack the case and was fornd dead in her apartment and her notes were never found.

    • @dblshotz75
      @dblshotz75 3 роки тому +1

      Yup. Word is her notes connected the assassination to Bigfoot.

    • @markrobinowitz8473
      @markrobinowitz8473 3 роки тому +6

      @@dblshotz75 Childish response that ignores the facts. Try again.

    • @sds5502
      @sds5502 3 роки тому

      Outfit strikes again

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому +3

      @Tautriadelta yes, it was given a good old fashioned hoovering.

    • @bernardm.3205
      @bernardm.3205 3 роки тому

      Sergio
      She was found in her townhouse!

  • @t63700
    @t63700 3 роки тому +46

    The way Ruby was allowed to shoot Oswald proves that some of the Dallas police had to have been in on it, especially those who were leading him through the crowd.

    • @yoyo-cp6zd
      @yoyo-cp6zd 3 роки тому +15

      Yep....they said Jack hung out at the Police Dept. HQ all the time.

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 3 роки тому +6

      He wasn't "allowed" to shoot anyone. It proves absolutely nothing other than we know who pulled the trigger. What is wrong with you people? Is everything a frickin conspiracy to you? Lay off the Alex Jones koolaid.

    • @t63700
      @t63700 3 роки тому +6

      @@nebtheweb8885 The next time you watch Ruby shooting Oswald, just look at the expression of the detective in the light suit who’s holding Oswald.

    • @vernpascal1531
      @vernpascal1531 3 роки тому +8

      @@nebtheweb8885 If you think Ruby and Oswald Acted Alone you are one dishonest SOB!

    • @Hartleymolly
      @Hartleymolly Рік тому

      Your aware that this entire “conspiracy” was by the CIA. Our government killed our President….Look up the doc, Louis Joyland West. He visited Ruby. He was a psychiatrist that was contracted for CIA..and a prominent player in the mkultra experiments with mind control….The documents just confirm the right amount of info. It’s unbelievable.

  • @hughgunn3785
    @hughgunn3785 3 роки тому +27

    Oswald was not brought out until Ruby had arrived. Why else was Ruby in the garage if Oswald was meant to have left hours earlier? His key advantage as an assassin was that he could enter the police station as someone familiar to the police. Hence he got the order for the killing despite his small-time status.

    • @jimmycricket5366
      @jimmycricket5366 2 роки тому +2

      What was the point of this book?

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 2 роки тому

      Ruby the super secret assassin. Lol. The placement of his shot was dreadful. Oswald should have lived.
      A true assassin would have blasted him in the chest multiple times.

    • @wiffley
      @wiffley Рік тому +5

      @@jimmycricket5366 I think the point was to go over the details of the trial itself, but the author seems a bit naive about how things went down in the police station that day. Like taking Ruby's word that the officer didn't see him as gospel truth? Laughable. Ruby was an assassin who knew he was dying of cancer...that's another reason he was chosen to do the hit.

  • @thechariotcard
    @thechariotcard 3 роки тому +42

    The news downplayed Ruby’s role. He was involved w the mafia.

    • @DMaria216
      @DMaria216 3 роки тому +1

      Ahh so someone threatened media to be quiet

    • @Iamrightyouarewrong
      @Iamrightyouarewrong 3 роки тому +2

      no he wasn't.

    • @MJ-xi1mk
      @MJ-xi1mk 3 роки тому +2

      News media has been involved with everything and one day I hope they will be held accountable!

    • @selah71
      @selah71 3 роки тому +3

      @@MJ-xi1mk
      When news media lies they should be held accountable and not be called "news".
      Too many people don't know the difference between actual news and talking op heads.
      Try watching some of your local news stations rather than 24hr news.

    • @morganbanefort181
      @morganbanefort181 3 роки тому +5

      @@Iamrightyouarewrong yes he was

  • @mariannesouza8326
    @mariannesouza8326 3 роки тому +23

    While this was happening, I was in the living room at my cousins’ house in Statesboro, GA. I can’t recall if I was looking at the TV 📺 at that moment, but I definitely looked when all the adults gasped in shock. 😧

    • @hannabaal150
      @hannabaal150 Рік тому +1

      I was watching when Oswald was murdered too. I could not believe it was real. It looked staged to me, like they walked Oswald right into Ruby. I was 10 then, what did I know, just what I saw, and that's what it looked like to me.

    • @OSHA_Violator1
      @OSHA_Violator1 Рік тому

      Hi from Savannah 👋

  • @brittanydiane214
    @brittanydiane214 3 роки тому +24

    Interesting topic but his 3 reasons as to why he wasn’t a “hired assassin” don’t hold much weight...

    • @gs8099
      @gs8099 3 роки тому +8

      I do agree. In fact it is more acceptable to hire a "loser" to carry out something hugely important. He must have also been briefed to say what he said, that he couldn't quite remember, etc, etc. They clearly managed to convince him that his forgetfulness once planted in judge and jury's head will rescue him.

    • @Emy53
      @Emy53 3 роки тому +4

      I wouldn't waste my money on this book. More conspiracy theories.

    • @brittanydiane214
      @brittanydiane214 3 роки тому +2

      @@Emy53 exactly lok

    • @brittanydiane214
      @brittanydiane214 3 роки тому +3

      @@gs8099 yep! The dog in the car??? Someone can pick him up at the pound lol

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke 3 роки тому +1

      @@Emy53 The book REFUTES conspiracy theories.

  • @davidarbuckle7236
    @davidarbuckle7236 2 роки тому +29

    The biggest shocker is that Ruby and Oswald knew each other. This was a classic mob hit. Ruby wasn't trying to save Jackie from the agony of having to return to Dallas for Oswald's crime. He was trying to shut up the Patsy.

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 2 роки тому +1

      No, they didn’t know each other

    • @davidarbuckle7236
      @davidarbuckle7236 2 роки тому +5

      @@paleo704 Only a dozen or so people who put them together.

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidarbuckle7236 what conspiracy site are you getting this “new” information from?

    • @paleo704
      @paleo704 2 роки тому +1

      The Warren report found no evidence they had ever interacted

    • @davidarbuckle7236
      @davidarbuckle7236 2 роки тому

      @@paleo704 That was your first mistake. The Warren Report had a conclusion before any investigation even occurred. IT was one crazy shooter, killed by another crazy shooter. Case closed, but oops.

  • @realtijuana5998
    @realtijuana5998 3 роки тому +17

    For a guy who researched an entire book on the subject, Abrams's theories are annoyingly speculative.

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke 3 роки тому +3

      A theory is by definition speculative.

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 10 місяців тому

      @@LardGreystoke no, a hunch is

  • @pamogburn6151
    @pamogburn6151 3 роки тому +4

    I know he was a loser. But to say a man that was unsuccessful was a loser is not right. Not everyone that is unsuccessful is a loser.

  • @maninthemiddle55
    @maninthemiddle55 2 роки тому +12

    At 6:50 into this video Dan Abrams discounts the notion that Jack Ruby was part of a conspiracy to silence Oswald because Ruby arrived to the basement of the Dallas courthouse only minutes before Oswald was being escorted out of the building. However that very observation could instead be used to support the case that Ruby was in fact part of a conspiracy: once Ruby gained entry (or was let into) the basement a co-conspirator cop could have then gotten word to other another co-conspirator cop escorting Oswald that Ruby was in place so it was time to bring Oswald out and into Ruby's path.
    This proposal is not at all far fetched: Jack Ruby was friendly with many Dallas cops because they would frequent his Carousel Club.

    • @theblakex
      @theblakex Рік тому +2

      That's exactly what happened. Ruby was notified at the precise moment to show up and shoot Oswald. There was no need to get there early and wait around.

    • @hannabaal150
      @hannabaal150 Рік тому +1

      Ruby's last words to his dog: "Sheba, you're on your own."
      (Apologies to Mel Brooks ;)

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 10 місяців тому +1

      @@theblakex Even LHO's manner, as he was walked out, indicated that he found the whole situation a bit suspicious

    • @kimmiller6509
      @kimmiller6509 5 місяців тому

      You can plainly hear two beeps from a car horn-perhaps a "signal"; to Ruby about when LHO was coming out?!
      🤔

    • @maninthemiddle55
      @maninthemiddle55 5 місяців тому

      @@kimmiller6509. I’m not doubting that you hear them but I’m not able to.

  • @objuan6
    @objuan6 3 роки тому +6

    Oswald was the last time anyone bothered with a cover story, since they discovered that confusion works just as well. In your face!
    Building 7

  • @marcguidry5744
    @marcguidry5744 3 роки тому +9

    I remember seeing that on TV.

  • @thomasmoeller3446
    @thomasmoeller3446 3 роки тому +5

    Ruby didn't do it by choice. Ted Cruze's dad made him do it. Trump** saw him force Ruby to do it from his penthouse apartment in Manhattan.

  • @lorrier2475
    @lorrier2475 3 роки тому +7

    Wow! I started shaking. I saw this clip when it happened!

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому

      I have the same ...uh...ptsd?

  • @stevefish3124
    @stevefish3124 3 роки тому +14

    The conspirators knew that Oswald would talk once he realized he was the scapegoat.

    • @lozenmczapor4771
      @lozenmczapor4771 3 роки тому

      @Tautriadelta He was
      a killing machine with a 5 dollar rifle.

    • @glockumollie1230
      @glockumollie1230 2 роки тому

      Your absolutely right, actually Lee didn't shoot anyone he was the PATSY and he figured it out at the Police department when he was heard saying so I'm the PATSY.

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому

      The cover up was so absurdly clumsy, yet so unrelentingly persistentant by the state perps that try to insult the public buy trying to bully them into believing it.

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 10 місяців тому

      Stevefish-But he had two days to do exactly that- and he didn't.He could have blurted it out to the press on several occasions, but he didn't. More likely he was smart enough to know that they didnt have a strong case against him in court, so he went with the line that he had nothing to do with any of it.

  • @3_up_moon
    @3_up_moon 3 роки тому +26

    "He was a loser"
    Abusers do the same thing to discredit their victims so their malfeasance goes undetected.

    • @kpizzleforizzle5541
      @kpizzleforizzle5541 3 роки тому +1

      was gonna mention same thing.

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke 3 роки тому +8

      @@fenwan2405 "Show me Trump and I'll show you a big loser."

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому

      Abrams calling Ruby a loser is him grooming the American public into not believing in an elaborate coup plot existed.

  • @MyerheadsCards
    @MyerheadsCards 3 роки тому +9

    Why was Jack Ruby at the press conference the day after the JFK assassination (and even made an audible correction to one of the answers)?
    Why was Jack Ruby seen at Parkland Hospital?
    What if the Dallas police was waiting for Ruby to arrive before escorting Oswald? In other words, instead of being "an hour late"... perhaps they were waiting on him to arrive. Which begs the question: why was Oswald being subjected to the public in the first place? They should have never exposed him.

  • @dlit
    @dlit 2 роки тому +10

    Jack Ruby was well-known to the Dallas police. Many of them were patrons of Ruby's Carousel club. It makes no sense that Ruby could wander into Dallas police headquarters just before Oswald, who should have been the most tightly-guarded man on earth that day, is led toward him, then move toward Oswald and, without any interference from any of the cops present, shoot Oswald from a few feet away. There is a video on UA-cam of Ruby talking to reporters shortly after killing Oswald. He plainly alludes to the fact that there was a conspiracy and says the "true facts" of what went on in Dallas will never come above board to the world, and that "people that had so much to gain" were responsible for "putting me in the position I'm in."

  • @DavidArbuckle-sc8zc
    @DavidArbuckle-sc8zc 17 днів тому +1

    Night Club Owner? It was a Strip joint. Half of the Dallas Police drank for free at the Carousel club. Ruby was also the man who was able to spring Trafficante from a Cuban Jail. Mob connections? Absolutely. Cancer? He got treated for a cold and Dr. Jolly declared he was insane. and a couple of weeks later he was dead. (Keep in mind that Dr. Jolly was known for overdosing a giant elephant with LSDF who died in his care.

  • @rlittlejohn2772
    @rlittlejohn2772 3 роки тому +9

    Not in control . He had a gun and loaded it and shot Oswald and he didn't shoot anyone but Oswald point blank. BS.

    • @LardGreystoke
      @LardGreystoke 3 роки тому

      Okay. So he should have got convicted, which he did, which is why he died in jail.

  • @oldgoat1890
    @oldgoat1890 3 роки тому +22

    Without Jack Ruby you could almost believe Oswald worked alone.

    • @markrobinowitz8473
      @markrobinowitz8473 3 роки тому +15

      Does anyone still believe the Warren Commission coverup? Allen Dulles was one of the main participants, and he had violent disagreements with JFK. In most murder investigations it is considered improper to have mortal enemies of the victim to be a primary investigator. Hint: the 1978 report from the House Select Committee on Assassinations admitted that there were multiple gunmen.

    • @guynorth3277
      @guynorth3277 3 роки тому +2

      No I can't - it was the Dixiecrat/Republicans

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому +2

      @@guynorth3277 well, TX w a s where they picked...

    • @leemoore9933
      @leemoore9933 2 роки тому

      The thing about almost all the conspiracy theroist go by is that stupid JFK movie, man thats hollywood its to make a gripping suspenseful movie that sells tickets nothing more.

    • @vernpascal1531
      @vernpascal1531 Рік тому +2

      No...The SBT and headshot from the rear are politely...garbage.

  • @John-ev3rm
    @John-ev3rm 3 роки тому +7

    Jack Ruby died an innocent man?

    • @washingtonfootballfanwgil8392
      @washingtonfootballfanwgil8392 3 роки тому +4

      Anytime you die before your appeal, you are "not guilty." Google Aaron Hernandez. His estate was able to sue the NFL for the balance of his contract because he died before his appeal. He was deemed innocent.

    • @bertrandlewis4906
      @bertrandlewis4906 2 роки тому

      His conviction and death sentence were overturned and he died of a pulmonary embolism before he could be retried

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому

      Earl Warren refused to hear Ruby tell of the coup. He would not allow him to leave Dallas to testify. They spent millions on the cover up though.

  • @marylouposka6879
    @marylouposka6879 3 роки тому +8

    Only the good (Kennedy) die young. No one who was alive in 1963 doesn't remember this. This was the beginning of our disillusionment in government.

    • @deborahfreedman333
      @deborahfreedman333 3 роки тому +1

      I was alive then. He wasn't a very good president. It was his fault we lost so many young men in Vietnam. He really mishandled the Bay of Pigs, and the Russian Missile Crisis. He cozied up to the mob, which is not surprising considering the source of his family's wealth. His sexual misbehavior makes Bill Clinton look like a monk. Dying young allowed his legacy to remain untarnished. The fact this extremely flawed man had been elected, had already disillusioned many.

  • @ljimlewis
    @ljimlewis 3 роки тому +8

    Belli? Even as a teenage kid, before this event, I remember the “sentiment” of my parents as feeling uncomfortable with this “new insanity defense”. Just asking, what is the American sentiment now vs back then? Also remember Belli as full of himself.

    • @TheHeavensFellen
      @TheHeavensFellen 5 місяців тому

      it want insanity defense it was a seizure caused it others said he should have proclaimed it was temporary insanity

  • @jacobzaranyika9334
    @jacobzaranyika9334 3 роки тому +8

    Another topic a certain kid I know is passionate about. He has studied every detail available out there.

    • @tammystockley-loughlin7680
      @tammystockley-loughlin7680 3 роки тому

      You have an "old soul" in your buddy...I'm 50+years and those kids are interesting to be around...you never know what they will talk about. Often they are more aware of the bigger picture and what complicates the problem. Positive vibes from New Hampshire and remember to be kind to each other and yourself during this pandemic and social

  • @rlittlejohn2772
    @rlittlejohn2772 3 роки тому +7

    How did Ruby even get that close to shoot Oswald. It was a set up. Camera man just happens to be there . How did Ruby get in that building?

    • @paulcopland1697
      @paulcopland1697 3 роки тому +6

      Ruby was a member of organized crime and a strip club and night club owner who had a network of corrupt police who he paid off regularly. it was really easy to get in that building and really easy to shoot Oswald.

  • @jthomeskillet
    @jthomeskillet 3 роки тому +12

    He was not an avenger, he just took out what needed done for those guys in that "thing of theirs"

    • @msw8839
      @msw8839 3 роки тому +4

      Jack Ruby did assassinate him. He completed the job for the bosses. Ruby's sister said he did not care about JFK or Jackie. Why did the police have such poor security? He also killed someone who was a suspect not convicted. He may have killed an innocent man. Either way it was murder.

    • @vernpascal1531
      @vernpascal1531 3 роки тому +2

      @@msw8839 Yes if yer ignorant enough or dishonest enough to believe Oswald Acted Alone...then you could probably swallow Ruby's super lame explanation that he wanted to spare Jackie a trial.

  • @tosina.5023
    @tosina.5023 3 роки тому +5

    Or Jack Ruby had some inside information that Oswald would be moved at a later time. That's more plausible than dumb luck lol. We are all guessing, just say that you're guessing buddy.

  • @Yourdeadmeat69
    @Yourdeadmeat69 3 роки тому +4

    I was 18 and watched in horror......

  • @circussounds855
    @circussounds855 8 місяців тому +1

    What was ruby doing at the Oswald press conference a couple days before? There it turned out were too many ppl on the scene at that time but he was there for a reason.

  • @rixx46
    @rixx46 3 роки тому +12

    I wonder if Dorothy Kilgallen’s story is part this?

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому +1

      Where exactly was Curtis LeMay on 11/22/63?

  • @azusa9963
    @azusa9963 3 роки тому +6

    very interesting, l may need to read this.
    The Kennedy assassinations were so tragic and changed the course of our country.

  • @watermelonlalala
    @watermelonlalala 3 роки тому +1

    These people are creepy. Why are they doing this? The jurors already rejected Ruby's ridiculous story about how much he loved the Kennedys and wanted to spare Jackie. He didn't go to see them in the motorcade. Instead, he went and placed a news ad that he placed every week. Nothing special. Dan Abrams should just stay out of it. It's all been said before.

  • @paulpvhl1930
    @paulpvhl1930 3 роки тому +7

    Interesting. I didn't realize Ruby claimed to be unaware of what he was doing, same as Sirhan Sirhan. Combine that with the work of Derren Brown and his work to program an assassin that could be triggered in the same way Sirhan claims he was, and that's really quite interesting.

    • @_D_E_N_N_I_S_
      @_D_E_N_N_I_S_ 2 роки тому

      *shocked face *

    • @_D_E_N_N_I_S_
      @_D_E_N_N_I_S_ 2 роки тому +1

      Also interesting that after seeing a court appointed dr, he literally went insane. Just drs name is Louis jaylon west. Who was heavily involved in mk ultra.

    • @paulpvhl1930
      @paulpvhl1930 2 роки тому +1

      @@_D_E_N_N_I_S_ I just checked around, including an Intercept article on West and Gottlieb; had forgotten most of it from decades ago. Thanks for the reminder. One needs to have studied a good deal to know which claims are fact-based and which are fabrications. West, a retired army colonel, seems to have believed he was serving his country against the rising East even while destroying some of the subjects of his "research". The blind leading the blind. I had hoped the world had changed, had grown, but Guantanamo Bay suggests otherwise.

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому

      His laeyer Melvin Belli told him to tell that story. I think if he stuck with Tom shown here he might have done better.

  • @ranger053
    @ranger053 Рік тому +1

    Watch this shooting in slow motion, it’s on here , Oswald catches a glimpse of ruby in this crowd like when you see someone you know, theres enough time to jerk , not one of the handcuffed police looked, it sticks out in slow motion

  • @Hartleymolly
    @Hartleymolly Рік тому +1

    Louis Joyland West, the psychiatrist, ya know, that worked for CIA, that visited Ruby in isolation, where’s his part in this story, and how he was one of the prominent doctors, involved in the MKULTRA.

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому +1

      The entertainer friend of Ruby visiting hin in prison said Ruby complained of Jolly West injecting him in prison. The previous prison doc said Ruby was fine when he attended to Ruby. West forced his way in there by constantly pressing the authority to be his doc.

    • @Hartleymolly
      @Hartleymolly Рік тому

      @@meisievannancy Indeed!

  • @OnlyLoveCan38
    @OnlyLoveCan38 3 роки тому +5

    NO! He want to that police station with a gun and waited and planned the murder.

    • @calvinndallas3289
      @calvinndallas3289 3 роки тому

      Mr. Ruby always carried a gun and he was a regular at the Dallas Police station.

  • @davidllewis4075
    @davidllewis4075 3 роки тому +4

    If, as am I, you are old enough to remember those days, you have picked your favorite conspiracy theory and, as with I, are prepared to die believing it.

  • @AGDinCA
    @AGDinCA 3 роки тому +6

    Im willing to bet Dorothy Kilgallen knew the truth.

  • @elinblackburn7345
    @elinblackburn7345 2 роки тому +1

    Lee Harvey Oswald: "Famous guy coming through."
    Also Lee Harvey Oswald: "WhaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!"

  • @michaeldougherty8344
    @michaeldougherty8344 3 роки тому +7

    Can't wait to read this book!

    • @markrobinowitz8473
      @markrobinowitz8473 3 роки тому +2

      A much better book: JFK and the Unspeakable: Why he died and why it matters by James Douglass.

    • @meisievannancy
      @meisievannancy Рік тому

      I wouldn't bother. Him calling Ruby a loser is not an objective writer. Obviously an apoligist who wants you to think there is nothing to see here.

  • @rogermorey
    @rogermorey 2 роки тому +1

    Dan Abrams makes poor argument. Ruby planned to shoot Oswald and came there with a gun and a plan. It wasn't "heat of the moment". Interesting what happened to Ruby during incarceration. He was a changed man.

  • @meisievannancy
    @meisievannancy Рік тому +1

    Abrams calling Ruby a *loser* is not objective. Obviously an apoligist trying to make you believe there is nothing further to see here.

  • @silentwhisper8633
    @silentwhisper8633 3 роки тому +1

    People there that saw it were ignored.

  • @BeegirlsHoneyHouse
    @BeegirlsHoneyHouse 3 роки тому

    Oswald was buried a 1/2 mile from my childhood home in Fort Worth and the cemetery was shrouded in mystery and intrigue because of it. Well, that and the gypsy’s whose families would leave food and other oddities on their graves and have usual ‘gatherings,’ there.

    • @turntableone4356
      @turntableone4356 3 роки тому +1

      Oswald went to Arlington Heights High School in ft worth texas...and Mark David Chapman the man who shot john lennon is from ft. Worth.

  • @gussetma1945
    @gussetma1945 9 місяців тому

    Ruby (Jacob Rubenstein) was a labor racketeer who served the Chicago Outfit. The outfit felt betrayed by Kennedy. The idea that he had affection for the Kennedy is preposterous.He was the bag man for Carlos Marcello. His job was to pay off Dallas coppers. He was well known at the Dallas police station. The timing business proves nothing. He may have had the wrong time for Oswalds transfer. He may have been recruited after officer Tibbet failed to silence Oswald.

  • @judychandler8485
    @judychandler8485 3 роки тому

    I will never forget those days.

  • @Avinadav12
    @Avinadav12 3 роки тому +1

    He was going to tell the truth. That why he didn’t show up for the second trial.

  • @fattylovehandles8819
    @fattylovehandles8819 Рік тому

    it would be kinda obvious that Lee Harvey Oswald had things to say , but Jack Ruby did not want to hear it. i would also assume Jack Ruby was not a virgin.

  • @nonamegame9857
    @nonamegame9857 3 роки тому +4

    Back then during that time is when the justice system actually believed in quick and speedy trials unlike today to where you can have an upper crust criminal stay out on bail for a number of years.

  • @sdhscrosscountry
    @sdhscrosscountry 7 місяців тому

    This is funny, he ask Gerald Ford that he would tell more if they would move him out of Dallas jail.

  • @map8847
    @map8847 2 роки тому +1

    As proof that Jack Ruby's killing Oswald was by mere chance, Abrams states that Oswald was suppose to have been moved from Dallas police headquarters to county lock-up at 10:00 am and that Ruby finally showed up at the police station at 11:15. So, why wasn't Oswald moved at 10:00 am? It appears as though they were waiting for Ruby - who arrived late. As coincidence would have it: Ruby, who had just finished running errands, showed up at Dallas PD at exactly the right time and found himself in the police underground parking structure right on Que. and in the presence of about 70 officers and detectives - murdered Oswald.
    Also, Abrams said that Ruby's dog was in his car. Why would he bring his dog and leave it in the car if he was going to murder Oswald and probably get arrested?
    Perhaps Jack Ruby, not being a particularly bright man, knowing he would be arrested, thought his dog would starve to death before someone found it. I think an argument can be made that: BECAUSE Ruby brought his dog, he knew he would not be back home to take care of the dog. In other words: Ruby knew he was about to be arrested, so he brought his dog to pass off to Dallas PD to deal with. After he was arrested he probably handed over his car keys and let the officers know the dog was in the car. Beloved dog Sheeba: taken care of.

    • @samuelmoore3817
      @samuelmoore3817 2 роки тому +1

      My point is if oswald was to be moved at 10 00 why would ruby even show up later if he wasnt told about the time change. Even a low iq person knows this

    • @mikev4621
      @mikev4621 10 місяців тому

      @@samuelmoore3817 11.15 was the time Ruby was told to be there.10 am was the time you and I were told to be there.

  • @petertornabeni602
    @petertornabeni602 7 днів тому

    These people are all from the same school of thought and together, they play the American people like puppets on a string. . . . and now you know -

  • @bobdadnaila7708
    @bobdadnaila7708 3 роки тому

    I don't think Oswald did it, he was set up and even said as much....
    And then he's gunned down in a jail transfer, before he can testify or be tried? Please.

  • @masterjedi9151
    @masterjedi9151 3 роки тому +2

    Who was that second shooter though?

  • @k.patriciahutt2979
    @k.patriciahutt2979 3 роки тому

    I haven't liked Texas since the Kennedy assassination - recent events only serve to reinforce that
    opinion. IMO, Jack Ruby was given the death penalty bc the TX authorities wanted to be able to crucify Oswald as a quasi-apology to the country, for letting such a thing happen on their turf. Loser or not, Ruby sure managed to put a big nail in the TX ego-centric image.

  • @moobrien1747
    @moobrien1747 Рік тому +2

    DOROTHY
    KILGALLEN.

  • @rlittlejohn2772
    @rlittlejohn2772 3 роки тому +10

    Ruby a fan of John Kennedy? Come on Ruby was Italian. He shot Oswald to shut him up.

    • @redalert2834
      @redalert2834 3 роки тому +8

      Jacob Rubenstein was Jewish, not Italian.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому +1

      Jews aren’t Catholic.

    • @johnbell6114
      @johnbell6114 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure that Oswald, Ruby and Tippit knew each other, as in seen drinking together someplace, check it out.
      Oswald was framed, look into paraffin tests, mainly his face. You squeeze off 3 shots with a bolt action rifle there'd be gunpowder residue on your face. Oswald had none, he was eating lunch with his boss in break room during assassination, look into it.

  • @MH-nc5jd
    @MH-nc5jd 3 роки тому

    Actually the "fugue state" was the state of Oswald after being arrested after shooting a cop.. .. let's at least get out crazy right .

  • @johnbrennan2028
    @johnbrennan2028 2 роки тому

    Maybe they were waiting for ruby to bring Oswald out ? Duh

  • @lozenmczapor4771
    @lozenmczapor4771 3 роки тому

    Ruby knew everyone

  • @lengray44
    @lengray44 3 роки тому +8

    So he was like trump, without his dad's money

  • @theblakex
    @theblakex Рік тому

    Ruby knew Oswald. End of story.

  • @jasonrobertson216
    @jasonrobertson216 Рік тому

    What was there to deliberate by the jury for 2hrs? Jack Ruby did it live on TV with half the country watching. That'd be like a jury deliberation on if planes hit the World Trade Center towers or not 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Verdelufe
    @Verdelufe 2 роки тому

    Jack Ruby was not a loser, as a boy he worked for Al Capone in Chicago as an errand boy. This journalists keep telling stories that there was no conspiracy to assassinated JFK, people are sick of it.

  • @user-yv1fh3fc8y
    @user-yv1fh3fc8y 2 роки тому

    Ruby was not an avenger but a silencer.

  • @crepusculion
    @crepusculion 3 роки тому +4

    Loser became Ruby's epithet over the decades, but nobody justifies it. Despite the failure of a string of night clubs, so few have the know how and resources for such undertakings, it's an accomplishment in itself. Ruby apparently made a living from his strip clubs; how is he a loser? The characterization of Ruby may have originated from the strippers he employed, women who commonly rationalize that it's the men who pay to see their public nudity who are the losers. Because he threw his life away in such a manner doesn't mean he led the life of a loser.
    The implication is that killing Oswald was his attempt at redemption for a failed life. Maybe. Why him though? There are billions of losers who don't resort to such histrionics.

  • @butchoharechicago6657
    @butchoharechicago6657 3 роки тому +8

    Jack Rubenstein. Police groupie. Strip club owner. Use to bounce out rowdies from his stripclub. Nickname Sparky. Grew up in a rough neighborhood in Chicago.

    • @brandonjohnson9625
      @brandonjohnson9625 3 роки тому

      Lol still covering up the hit this many years later, the mob continues business as usual.

    • @butchoharechicago6657
      @butchoharechicago6657 3 роки тому +1

      +@@brandonjohnson9625 Stupid Mob can,t keep anything quiet.

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 3 роки тому

      Grew up in Chicago, yeah, he was well acquainted with the cosa nostra.

    • @butchoharechicago6657
      @butchoharechicago6657 3 роки тому +2

      +@@lolodee3528 Mafia don,t hire people with names like Rubenstein and Takahashi. Sorry. Try Sicily. Over 224 names and orgs. have been named or accused in assassination of J.F.K. even STUPID C.I.A. who couldn,t keep Iran-Contra out of Beirut newspapers. Get,s to the point of RIDICULOUS.

  • @carydavidhoffson6014
    @carydavidhoffson6014 2 роки тому

    Jack ruby was with Lee harvey oswald and killed jfk both got out of the book building and to meet at the movie theater but did not get there in time and got him at the police station

  • @lindaforsythe2978
    @lindaforsythe2978 2 роки тому

    Alledlgly Ruby passed more prison guard saying it was conspiracy!

  • @lindaforsythe2978
    @lindaforsythe2978 2 роки тому

    Melvin Belli Ruby's attorneys had mafia ties!

  • @degenerati
    @degenerati 3 роки тому +1

    Nowadays Fox News would make a hero of Jack Ruby, and try to create a culture war around it.

    • @zepfan74
      @zepfan74 3 роки тому

      Doubtful, JFK was a democrat, Oswald would be the hero

  • @leemoore9933
    @leemoore9933 2 роки тому

    Al Capone recruited Ruby he ran near beer in Chicago Al wanting to make big Jack but he wasn't I talian. Al and Jack would sit around and drink near beer and make meat balls together. Look it up. They liked to slow dance too.

  • @rca245
    @rca245 Рік тому

    Loser?!…that sure is a weird way to frame it.
    He was a mobster, who ran the most successful night club in the Dallas / Ft Worrh area. …
    This is some lame whitewash

  • @suenesnidal2600
    @suenesnidal2600 27 днів тому

    He died of a pulmonary emboli.😮.....He had 2 dogs.

  • @lindaforsythe2978
    @lindaforsythe2978 2 роки тому

    Maybe a cip.tipped Ruby to the time Ruby could show up on yime!

  • @3_up_moon
    @3_up_moon 3 роки тому +6

    CIA had to tie up loose ends

    • @3_up_moon
      @3_up_moon 3 роки тому +1

      @Roger Wilco uninformed

    • @markrobinowitz8473
      @markrobinowitz8473 3 роки тому +5

      @@3_up_moon Robert Kennedy (senior) immediately thought the CIA did it, as did Jackie. The "former" director of CIA was put on the Warren Commission, a severe conflict of interest given that JFK was bitter enemies with Allen Dulles (who he fired from CIA in 1961). James Jesus Angleton. David Atlee Phillips. General Ed Lansdale. among others. Coup In America.

    • @3_up_moon
      @3_up_moon 3 роки тому

      @@markrobinowitz8473 jack Ruby was also under a CIA psyop program

  • @McLKeith
    @McLKeith 3 роки тому +4

    I was 12 when JFK was assassinated. I was out collecting coat hangers as a Boy Scout.
    It was a big tragedy and felt here in Canada too.

  • @terp2726
    @terp2726 3 роки тому

    Downcheck for trying to sneak in a Morning Joe story without titling it as such. At least it didn't have those two other idiots in it; they're far worse than this trio.

  • @Plymonk666
    @Plymonk666 3 роки тому

    All conspiracy minded will say is:
    ‘you think they didn’t have somebody in the police station who knew to take him outside at 11:15... yeah yeah of course he was ‘late’’
    Then off we go again on the merry-go-round
    Bigger story is the automatic gun stored with the safety off, that Secrete Service member lifts up in the second car that goes off by accident as it’s lifted from between the middle and rear seats hitting the final shot.... ;)

  • @lennykoss8777
    @lennykoss8777 3 роки тому +1

    🤔🤔

  • @xhetoomni8134
    @xhetoomni8134 3 роки тому

    He was employed by NIxon.

  • @raywood4223
    @raywood4223 Рік тому

    Sure seems to be a lot of losers in this case.

  • @RjAdams-hy6dr
    @RjAdams-hy6dr 11 місяців тому +2

    Rubyandoswaldbecamefallguys

  • @jennifermyers8332
    @jennifermyers8332 3 роки тому

    JACK ...JOHN.....AND RUBY.....NOT JACK RUBY......RUBY MY NEW BIRTH STONE SO NOT TO FORGET MY BIRTHDAY WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM GAVE ME THE FIRST TIME....HOW MANY TIMES HAS WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM COVERED ME UP ....SINCE 52

  • @Simo-nk1oq
    @Simo-nk1oq 3 роки тому +3

    Jacob Rubenstein got orders from Santo Trafficante to "push a button"

  • @cultureal9544
    @cultureal9544 3 роки тому +4

    What's with last century stuff, msnbc? Is it throw back thursday?

    • @jacqdanieles
      @jacqdanieles 3 роки тому +1

      If you watch even part of the clip, you'd know it's the preamble to the story they're doing about Dan Abram's book.

    • @waltergodsoe5526
      @waltergodsoe5526 3 роки тому +1

      The repercussions of JFK death still impact our lives everyday. The death of Camelot rings loud today.

    • @markrobinowitz8473
      @markrobinowitz8473 3 роки тому +2

      @@waltergodsoe5526 We would never have heard of Trump (or the Bushes, Reagan, Clinton) if the Cold War had been allowed to end in Kennedy's second term, as he had announced. JFK also signed the order to start the withdrawal from Vietnam. What would "the Sixties" have been without that?

  • @Thewanderer1431
    @Thewanderer1431 2 роки тому +2

    I love jews😍😍😍

  • @benquinney2
    @benquinney2 3 роки тому

    Hot blooded

  • @MH-nc5jd
    @MH-nc5jd 3 роки тому +1

    ..Dr West anyone?.. mkultra.. jack ruby sane one day and completely mad the next.. yup, nothing to see here..

  • @JetLeft008
    @JetLeft008 3 роки тому +1

    Kennedy's avenger? That was a clear mafia hit. Ruby was ordered to do that.