Just wanted to take the time out to say a massive massive thank you for all the time you have put into your videos Kieran. I passed my Doggers this morning with a 100% on both theory and practical. Although my assessor was top notch, I could not have done it without your videos. You have an excellent way of teaching, and explain in detail all aspects of the course very clearly. You are doing a huge service to the trade with these videos, so much so our assessor from Competency Training Perth, even suggested to watch this video to learn the different methods of stillage lifts. Thank you ever so much for this, your work with this channel is a making a job, that is inherently faced with multiple hazards, far safer for future generations. And for that I cannot thank you enough. All the best and have a great weekend
I should probably follow up on this comment. Since posting this I've actually gone on to pass my Basic and intermediate rigging tickets as well. I've also managed to pick up work in the city and most recently in Port Headland and Newman. Performing some big lifts on these jobs has been a great start to this new career. As I have said before, None of this would have been so easy if it hadn't been for you videos, I've been singing the praises for this channel whenever I could. One tip I've learnt on site (I know you've covered it on here too) was working out radius distance of the moves and using that to minimise direction between the Dogger and crane operator to make both of your lives easier. Thanks again Kieran!
Really helpful video. I have a prac exam tomorrow. We only have to do the third method. Single wrap choke back onto itself. Not onto the ring. I like the double wrap method. Looks more secure.
That would fail as the double choke didn’t properly choke when you wrapped it around the outside of the leg on the second pass around the posts there. There were definetly some loose ones in there still.
the second method was the best overall as it has the lowest nip angles involved at any point along the length of the chain so doesn't lower the lift rating as much, another thing to note is keeping chains as strait as possible (no or little twist) as that also downrates chains. every twist in the chain when lifting stresses it more and shortens its life. if doing a 4 leg lift the leg with the most twist will take more load than the other legs if the load is a regular shaped object as the twist shortens that leg and puts lateral forces into each link.
if you ever see chains where the shorteners do not have safety wings on them get them changed out ASAP as the non wing type grabhook shorteners are so bad for the chain, i have seen links turn into a banana shape from them and even on 20mm chains. they should be made illegal.
Good observation, I never thought of that! A twist in a chain, makes that leg shorter. With a multi leg lift, the shortest one has all the strain on it. It is not spread at all amongst the other three legs.
@@PapaLurchy it does not bind the loose ones in any tighter than the second method and as i said less nip angles in second method so less stress on chains. i was a chain and rigging certification tech for 9 1/2 years and have seen the results of people chocking chains in all the time like the first method which stresses them more.
Great video. Thanks for these as they are really helpfully I'm just starting out as a slinger in the U.K and would be great if you could do more of these lifting techniques of common things on site.
Just starting the video mate. But I would suggest that the first throw over would be on the inside of the already placed standing line so there is no pull against the initial basketing. Maybe that will be covered later on but I wanted to point it out incase the beers I’m drinking obscured it later. Cheers.
very instructive video dude, i'd really wish if you could have/show a video using those larger chains you mentioned (26mm-32mm), tht wouldve been nice...one could always hope...thnx again for this
@@bobbyknuck I was actually referring to the way it's attached to the load. I understand what you're say and you're right but not the point I was making.
@@bobbyknuck So why do we see hammerlocks with shortening clutch and chain attached to the ring exactly as pictured here? Secondly, if the herc/oblong ring attaches to the crane's hook and two hammerlocks for two legs of chain?
@@infeedel7706 because the shortened loop of the chain is not designed to be weight baring, just the end of chain with the hook so still only 1 weight baring point on the hammerlock
@@infeedel7706 it’s AS3775.2 if you wanted to look. I can’t post a picture of the AS on here, but it literally has a picture of this exact thing and says you can’t do it. “Ensure when backhooking to a masterlink or coupler an overload does not occur. A single masterlink can hold no more than 2 parts of the load. A coupler (hammerlock) can hold no more than 1 part of the load” Is reasoning is 2 part, it overcrowds causing potential side loading and more importantly basketing a chain by backhooking to a oblong double (approximately) the load on the oblong. It’s why oblong on single leg chains have to be rated to 1.3 times the WLL of the chain itself.
Just wanted to take the time out to say a massive massive thank you for all the time you have put into your videos Kieran.
I passed my Doggers this morning with a 100% on both theory and practical.
Although my assessor was top notch, I could not have done it without your videos.
You have an excellent way of teaching, and explain in detail all aspects of the course very clearly.
You are doing a huge service to the trade with these videos, so much so our assessor from Competency Training Perth, even suggested to watch this video to learn the different methods of stillage lifts.
Thank you ever so much for this, your work with this channel is a making a job, that is inherently faced with multiple hazards, far safer for future generations. And for that I cannot thank you enough.
All the best and have a great weekend
Thankyou so much. Congratulations on passing your assessment and I'm glad the vdeos helped as that is the whole reason in doing them.
I should probably follow up on this comment.
Since posting this I've actually gone on to pass my Basic and intermediate rigging tickets as well.
I've also managed to pick up work in the city and most recently in Port Headland and Newman. Performing some big lifts on these jobs has been a great start to this new career.
As I have said before, None of this would have been so easy if it hadn't been for you videos, I've been singing the praises for this channel whenever I could.
One tip I've learnt on site (I know you've covered it on here too) was working out radius distance of the moves and using that to minimise direction between the Dogger and crane operator to make both of your lives easier.
Thanks again Kieran!
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@@madman2hey dude mind sharing your starting salary? 😊
Really helpful video. I have a prac exam tomorrow. We only have to do the third method. Single wrap choke back onto itself. Not onto the ring. I like the double wrap method. Looks more secure.
Hey mate, just wanted to comment and say love your videos. Keep up the good work!
Bloody legend mate. Thanks a lot
That would fail as the double choke didn’t properly choke when you wrapped it around the outside of the leg on the second pass around the posts there. There were definetly some loose ones in there still.
the second method was the best overall as it has the lowest nip angles involved at any point along the length of the chain so doesn't lower the lift rating as much, another thing to note is keeping chains as strait as possible (no or little twist) as that also downrates chains. every twist in the chain when lifting stresses it more and shortens its life. if doing a 4 leg lift the leg with the most twist will take more load than the other legs if the load is a regular shaped object as the twist shortens that leg and puts lateral forces into each link.
if you ever see chains where the shorteners do not have safety wings on them get them changed out ASAP as the non wing type grabhook shorteners are so bad for the chain, i have seen links turn into a banana shape from them and even on 20mm chains. they should be made illegal.
Good observation, I never thought of that!
A twist in a chain, makes that leg shorter.
With a multi leg lift, the shortest one has all the strain on it.
It is not spread at all amongst the other three legs.
I'd argue first is safer as the wrap binds the loose pipes together, if the load were to accidentally slip it would hold it on the stillage.
@@PapaLurchy it does not bind the loose ones in any tighter than the second method and as i said less nip angles in second method so less stress on chains. i was a chain and rigging certification tech for 9 1/2 years and have seen the results of people chocking chains in all the time like the first method which stresses them more.
Great video. Thanks for these as they are really helpfully I'm just starting out as a slinger in the U.K and would be great if you could do more of these lifting techniques of common things on site.
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Thanks for the great video mate 👍
Just starting the video mate. But I would suggest that the first throw over would be on the inside of the already placed standing line so there is no pull against the initial basketing. Maybe that will be covered later on but I wanted to point it out incase the beers I’m drinking obscured it later. Cheers.
You make some great videos, cheers mate
I normally use option 2.
Thank's shir i have subscribe i will always follow you thanks a lot
why not just put a double wrap across the middle, catching the stillage uprights on the last wrap? quicker and safer I would think.
Love from Pakistan very informative video good 👍
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Are crane operators allowed to leave the crane with a suspended load?
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I am surprised you are not wearing gloves Kieran , especially as you seem to be in Australia.
Site specifics mate. If you're not on a mine site and you're just dogging, it's not usually required.
How to sling a load eh? Hehehehehe
very instructive video dude, i'd really wish if you could have/show a video using those larger chains you mentioned (26mm-32mm), tht wouldve been nice...one could always hope...thnx again for this
Tnx for what u are doing 🎉
I'm glad you appreciate it and hope it helps.
Good video well explained and not rushed
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7:08 method should be illegal and I'm baffled that anyone still uses it
It is illegal actually, can’t have more than 2 weight baring points per oblong/ring and 1 per hammerlock
@@bobbyknuck I was actually referring to the way it's attached to the load. I understand what you're say and you're right but not the point I was making.
@@bobbyknuck So why do we see hammerlocks with shortening clutch and chain attached to the ring exactly as pictured here? Secondly, if the herc/oblong ring attaches to the crane's hook and two hammerlocks for two legs of chain?
@@infeedel7706 because the shortened loop of the chain is not designed to be weight baring, just the end of chain with the hook so still only 1 weight baring point on the hammerlock
@@infeedel7706 it’s AS3775.2 if you wanted to look. I can’t post a picture of the AS on here, but it literally has a picture of this exact thing and says you can’t do it.
“Ensure when backhooking to a masterlink or coupler an overload does not occur. A single masterlink can hold no more than 2 parts of the load. A coupler (hammerlock) can hold no more than 1 part of the load”
Is reasoning is 2 part, it overcrowds causing potential side loading and more importantly basketing a chain by backhooking to a oblong double (approximately) the load on the oblong. It’s why oblong on single leg chains have to be rated to 1.3 times the WLL of the chain itself.
By the way, is it not illegal in Australia to exit a crane with a load on the hook? :)
Rightyo so you can step out of your throne with a load hanging high hey
just a site rule in some cases
This video was created for demonstration purposes only!
Double wrap with a single nylon and cable up. Id definitely use nylons , I always avoided rigging from the crane with chains when possible of course
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