Don't need no effing wood.. that shows weakness. Sheetrockers got no wood. Retired electrician here. You're just an ahole that want to install some stud behind his effup
@@rhull3939 what about the next paint job and the one after that... first off mesh tape sucks from the start. It's very hard to sand or hide a seam. This patch would have been fixed by a professional without any tape. It's called a California patch or a hot patch. It's where you cut the sheetrock the size of the hole with a snug fit while leaving the outside paper of the rock about 2 to 3 inches wider than the patch all the way around it. The paper left acts as paper tape while the sheetrock plugs the hole..... do me a favor and don't call bull when your talking to someone with well over 30 years experience in drywall.... thanks
@@benglett4864I'm was amazed the first time I learned how to do this. We were remodeling a house where the previous renter was not very happy when they were evicted so they put about 50 holes throughout the house. 🇺🇸💪🏻👊🏻🤙🏼
I agree. This is the hoaky way. Cali patch and hot mud all the way. Mesh tape creates high spots. It's smooth wall, and it'll create a shadow; especially if it's exposed to natural light.
@@gamebred88 What are you going to do to it to make it not last? I’ve done worse than this on a patch job in my house. After mud, primer, and paint it isn’t going to fall off or anything. Maybe a crack later but another coat of paint and it’s good again. I patch a 2 foot hole in my hallway 6 years ago, still there.
It is. I've been drywalling for 10 years and this is perfectly fine for 1 small hole. I wouldn't recommend it for many holes or larger holes. Don't listen to people who've never even mixed mud
@@whitebocolate69 it's not much different than a California patch. I've never done this but it should work. I don't California patch either but it's a method plenty of people use and it works for small holes... Like I said. If you say otherwise then you're full of sht
Hahaha, I’m Hispanic, so I get insta clout. Jk jk But seriously you’d want to probably screw in a piece of lumbar to give this thing some rigidity. If someone so much as leans in on this thing or hammers a tac to set a picture up it’s gonna give or you’ll at least get cracks at the seams
Electrician here too. I find it relaxing and enjoyable watching these guys work. I watch a guy on stilts make an arch ceiling. I had my coffee break and lunch watching him work. I’m a woman so the fellas thought I was crushing on him. No I enjoyed the artistry.
As a painting contractor I can tell you're an electrician if you love seeing this. Best to put some lumber back there first. It pokes thru easier than you think, especially when want to hang a picture on the wall. Hit that with a hammer or try an anchor there and see what happens. Quick ain't right
@@sethwiley7839 not really lol i see a lot of people saying how bad this is but it really isn't i've yet to see anyone say anything better as well the only alternative at this point would be to remove the entire segment of the wall and replace it because it will genuinely never look *perfect* to the original
@@zytha2890 there is 100% a mound left on that wall for it to be ‘smooth as silk’ No one worth paying would patch a wall like this with the insert being available. They would reinforce it then patch it. Not put a couple tiny bits of drywall seal tape into the hole and prayer to patch it lol
@@moonorchid9242 I'd never want a professional doing this kind of work, but for me doing a DIY hole repair, it's definitely good enough. Especially if you fan it out as he did at the end, it would make the mound a lot less visible As for the tape, I think that's fibreglass tape so by all means thats very strong
Each to their own when it comes to patching. But as a long time plasterer, if I can't put timber or furring channel behind it due to services, then at least use base coat or cornice cement. Don't run a light across this wall, will be a nice speed hump.
Did drywall for 5 years. There's a good reason you put a board behind the patch. That square will be bulging when that mud dries and it will look terrible. There is nothing holding that into the wall as it dries and the tension on that tape will pull it out enough to make it very noticable.
@@fev3rd paper is more likely to bubble or blister, mesh tape is the way to go most of the time and it’s easier and faster But not like how it’s done in this video is put some backing screw in the drywall then tape and mud it
@@MyDixieNormis I’ve had better experiences with the fiberglass tape. It’s like the mesh and paper mixed. Doesn’t bubble like the paper but it also doesn’t crack like the mesh. It’s far superior in my opinion
That ,and I'm no pro but I like the "cut an oversized piece and trim the back of it so it fits the hole,but also so the paper on front becomes the tape" trick.
If you think that this little hole is gonna crack in the future, you are one of those guys that says it’s my way or no way your way won’t work only my way will work and who the hell wants to work with people like that for real
I've readhered plaster in a 1920 postmaster's office. Unless you live in a seismically active area, the reason patches tend to crack is shrinkage of the mud. Using this little drywall compound, you're not going to experience much contraction. I'm an electrician also, but I have done enough drywall to know that this is fine for what was probably a double gang receptacle box that no longer exists at about 4" square.
Well it looks nice, but it's called a floating patch, press against it the mud will cracked the paint you placed on it will crack also, this is a "landlord special" if you want to be faster just use a sheet of paper and use a paint roller ontop of it and paint it on, will do the same amount of hold but about 10x faster and infinitely cheaper lol
That’s why you will never make top dollar. It’s so simple to learn and doesn’t take much time. Attitude and effort are what adds up to a good reputation. A good reputation brings the work.
`You betta go’head with yo bad self’! Truly amazing! My dad was a drywall guru. People sought him out from all walks of life. I regret not paying attention when he hired me for p/t work. Boy could I use that now 😢
My dad was a Drywaller for over 30 years- anything from simple patches and corners to whole house texture work; Stucco; custom plaster moldings, decorative or ornate reproductions, and even restoration of Historic or Landmark buildings... I never saw it when I was younger- but he was a true _ARTIST!_
As an interior wall finishing worker for 11 years I gotta say all bro did good was the editing. Towards the end of the video he scrapes the mud kind of hard which tells me that’s the final coat. He recorded the beginning and end of the work which could have been 30-60 minutes depending on how long the mud takes to set before next pass
An even better version of this is to use 2 of them and create a lip at the top and bottom. That way you can glue all along the edge, rather than just at the ends, and create a firmer point of contact on both sides.
@@AerationalImportant to point out to anyone else that the only reason for the wood when doing this patch it simply to provide a surface for the patch to sit against so it can be flush with the rest if the wall. The tape and mud provide the actual strength of the patch as any piece of wood drilled into drywall will come apart just as easily as the drywall or patch would break. Also a reminder that these patches need to be done with hot mud.
You are so right it really is an art. I did almost my whole house, I'm 64 this yr, own my own home from scratch,i had a friend who was a plasterer and he gave me a few tips & tricks, I practice in afinished room in my basement, it so much easier w/ the tips & tricks,it is a skill.
I feel that a "California patch" would be easier, give a cleaner finish, and use less mud. Plus it's just a chunk of drywall, so you eliminate the weird thick/stringy fiber tape. You should be using that super thin fiberglass tape for this kind of job anyway since it's thinner and requires less mud, which will give you a better finish.
@@adammonahan687hey man, don’t you know the Keyboard Dry Wallers know best…. That’s why they are watching a man do it and criticizing him!! Those jokers are typically the ones that have no idea….some actually do, but because they’ve not seen it done that way, criticize it as well. There’s more than a million ways to do the project correct, and only one way to do it wrong! If they’d pay attention, they might learn something. Good job calling them out!
@jessedebter4408 exactly. These and people will say the same thing for a California patch. I've done hundreds of them. They are all doing great. In fact I'm staring at one I did 6 years ago. Can't even tell a repair was done. And it's really the same concept
@@adammonahan687A Cali patch isn’t close to this patch. A Cali patch uses the top layer on drywall as the binder. This guys got nothing. Hope he doesn’t plan on hanging anything from it.
How not to put in a patch. 1) No wood behind it 2) Didn't butter the edges 3) Used mesh. This is for when you love your job so much you'll do it again, and again.
You can make a patch by cutting the back of the drywall and snapping it, peel, and leave front paper on. Make piece a inch longer on all 4 sides. Put mud on flaps, and inside hole, place patch in, wipe the flaps down, and then cover the whole thing with 5 minute set, allow to set, use 20 minute set to finalize.
I threw a coffee mug through a wall in motel I was staying at with my wife, put a hole about twice the width of a baseball fairly round, plaster board , so I went to hardware shop and pretty much bought exactly this stuff in video. I took a piece of wall with me so paint shop could match paint on piece in there colour scanner. Did exactly what they did here sanded it back then dried and painted it, had to fully open windows, lucky we were on top floor and we were at end of a hallway with wind blowing down and into our room, the windows inside open kept pulling the air and letting the air coming under front door out and no smell of plaster and paint. Bought some scented candles with subtle smells one was "neutral " smell and other had a light "ocean " smell, no one ever said anything. Paint matched perfectly after drying, ive had it not match after drying but I think he made a few shades different to account for this, the paint age. Cost me $78 for bits and pieces basic tools, sand paper, filler, flat edged tool, etc, I spent $40 on taxi to hardware and back and had to pay an extra $35 at hotel for late checkout, yep it happened 30min before checkout time finish and then they charged me a second late checkout fee of $65. I was worried it might fall out or change shape before it dried, I rushed it but did a pretty good job in the end just had to wait for it to dry and it smelled and was shiny where it was still wet. All good in the end though, I was so lucky my cup didn't go through the otjer side if wall I to a couples room. They definitely heard it gonthrpugh my side and his theres really hard because I heard a female WTF WAS THAT. I opened door and a young guy my age opened door, he wouod of been listening to my wife and I argue and I look at him and about to say im sorry and he interrupted and says "No you good bro, don't worry I've heard everything that bitch been saying to you, don't worry you good." LOL but yes I shouldn't have thrown mug at wall at all in first place, no matter how much she made me angry or mad
This is completely ok if your using bag mud or durabond especially. Also whenever you use mesh tape you have to use bag mud for the first coat as bucket mud will not hold to the tape and bubble up
@@fuzzymonkey-qe1xp Bullshit...if you cut the deadline and try to run the job up my ass cause you want it bad...you get it bad. It'll look good from my house 😆😆.
but i love this debate here cause you can see how passionate drywallers are about their work, it truly is art over knowledge, spanish texturing stomped ceilings creating something truly beautiful with mud and a knife
As an electrician, I take a wood shim put a screw on either side of the hole with the wood behind it screw the patch to the shim, tape, mud, more secure than that
1. Use wooden backing. 2. Indent the piece of drywall so it falls below the surface of the surrounding drywall. This way you avoid having to smear a mountain of filler to get a seemingly flat surface. 3. Thank me later.
Cut a piece bigger than the hole. And then use the excess without the plaster backing as the tape. Cut the same size of the top layer of paper on the wall itself. You get no bump and a perfect seem. Works best for smaller holes.
Gotta love that apartment complex maintenance guy patch work… every time I interview a guy who says he has a substantial number of years experience in remodeling all from working at apartment complexes… I know not to hire him. They may work fast but you have to redo everything they do.
@@eelobrian1 oh I hear ya. Lack of pay and constantly being rushed to finish the quickest, cheapest way possible tends to leave for sub par work. But working there too long tends to make it hard to unlearn those bad habits.
Knowing how to do half-assed work without one of the right tools, while still doing a good job is what makes experienced maintenance guys the best all-rounders. Ive been both, all, professional, hack landlord, and getting 90% of the way there for 50% of the time and cost almost always pencils out. Like machinists that intentionally ruin their bits to get a job done 4x faster.
I was taught to use the paper from the drywall on the sides, cut the plaster away and peel it off so you have a plug surrounded by paper, then mud it into place.
Gorgeous! Not a drywaller, but I did something similar to my ex's apartment wall when two of our sons had a "discussion" about computer time and one tossed the other through a wall. I used a chunk of wood for the backing, a chunk of drywall, and put a piece of printer paper over that. Mudded it in, and my ex was able to get his deposit back when he moved! I have no explanation for the kids. Russian jewish Vikings. I've fixed a lot of walls....they were a lil WILD. LoL!
Thank you, this is a save for me. I tried patching a hold in the wall. I couldn't figure out how to make it work like I wanted. I didn't look just right, so thanks. Now I have another method that will work better.
@@alexandermarquez8351 My dad is a retired drywall finisher. He would 100% agree with you. Don't get me wrong -- it's fecking hard work. But it's an art.
@byroneckhardt4131 you should never use fast set with tape. You can't sand it, it only glosses. Fast set should only be used as a filler. I personally use ConFill. Fiber tape is for DIY when you don't know any better. Paper tape is industry standard for a reason.
I was a grounds keeper and the property manager came to me as the maint/crew couldn't be found and a unit needed drywall work done.I was asked if I knew how to patch.I did and went patched textured and painted and promoted....I love drywall work and stucco.....
As an electrician, one small piece of wood behind and 3 screws would make that so much easier and quicker.... and honestly, it's probably more robust than just some mesh.
The mud may not be sharp, but the knife damn sure is, especially the corners. As a former safety rep at a large company, this was one of the most common hand injuries, it tends to happen while cleaning tools.
It would of been easy to put tape over the patch, I would use a hard setting mix, then finish with a sandable mud! I did drywall patching for a few years, we always used furring strips behind the patch!
All you need is a piece of drywall two inches wider than the hole and you don’t need no tape at all. It’s called a blowout patch. And it will not crack 💯👍
That's not how I would do it but if it stands the test of time good on him. I'm just glad to hear an electrician recognize the skill of another tradesman.
40 years of mud work experience asking whats up with the tape? Are you trying to keep the rock from moving backwards? I always leave the rock paper hanging over the sides. Put the mud on first, then put the patch in. Pull the mud out from under the paper. Never had one crack. Im open to learning new things. Just because you have been something a long time doesn't mean you have been doing it right.
Love reading all the comments hating on this . That is excellent work 99% could never do. I am just curious if all the morons are gonna walk around us poking their walls in their houses all day looking for spots like that. I normally don’t do it. I’m gonna poke all the spots in the walls of my house tonight so I can be a hater that’s great and hold up, if you punch it, it’s gonna leave a hole in it FYI so 99% of the drywall in your house there is going to be a mark and leave home. A few of the biggest weaknesses for men #1 can’t say sorry & mean it #2 like putting your hands on your thank you it makes it tough to bully a woman #3 not able to give another man or woman props or credit for something they can’t do or that they do better . Great work my guy
It looks clean from a close up only on that spot. If you leave leave anything stick out of the whole you have to putty over and it takes a good amount. When done right nothing should be sticking out.
Not real walls either, you still have to insulate those walls, add furring strips and sheet rock, unless you want to freeze in the winter and melt in the summer…..
In no world would I want a house with masonry or concrete walls. Stronger, yes. More of a pain in the ass to do any work on, yes. Our walls don't fall down over here. I have never seen a wall collapse that wasn't in a natural disaster (hurricane, tornado, etc) or had major foundation issues.
If anyone wants to know how to properly patch a hole like that, you should search for Vancouver Carpenter's video on how to do a California patch. There are several things wrong with the method shown in this video, but rule number one is to always put tape over all seams. That is one of the most basic rules that should always be followed! There is more wrong with the method shown in the video, but the fact that he did not put tape spanning the seams is enough to prove that the patch is garbage. If you are going to patch without placing wood behind it, you should definitely use a California dry wall patch. There are hundreds of videos on UA-cam that show how to do a California patch correctly. When I have patched holes in my own house, I actually used a piece of wood behind it and a California patch. I guarantee that my patches will last without cracking as long as the wall surrounding the patch.
Impossible, it’s not flat. If you leave part of the patch out of the drywall you will have a hump. Look at how much putty he put on it. If the patch is sticking out your will you have to layer it to cover it.
Looks nice for now, but will most certainly fail in a short time. The rigidity of the patch is compromised because the patch piece of drywall isn’t bonded to anything. Since the mesh tape goes behind patch piece, it is not bonded. Further since the tape changes plains, the tensile strength is compromised as well. But it does look nice & smooth when it’s done.
No, that will be a weak spot always. What you have to do is to put a piece of backing wood behind and use drywall screws to secure it. Then you can put that block of drywall and mesh tape around.
It depends on who you're doing the job for really. Some people are cheap and only want the bare minimum done, and they want it done fast. In those cases, this is perfect.
No... If you do this on my house i would fight you... That part of the wall will always be higher. Since you didnt use enough tape, now that tape will ALWAYS be applying a force to the small oiece of drywall instead of just supporting it... Nice 👍😂
As an electrician myself, I can tell you that we are here to put holes in walls, not patch them. If we happen to put them in the right spot, so much the better.
@@wtfdidijustwatch1017 Sometimes the drywaller forgets to cut out the hole for my outlet. Which is neither my fault, nor my problem. I knew more than a few electricians who would "find" the outlet by dead reckoning. Since you seem to be well versed in electrical work, what do you recommend? For the most part I would find them by rocking a straightedge horizontally and vertically until I found the center of the bulge where I would make the tiniest hole that I could, and use a piece of wire bent into an "L" that I would twist to try and hear if it was striking the wires rolled up in the box. If so, I would use the hole as my starting point to cut out the drywall covering the box. I almost always got it right the first time. What never happened was a drywaller coming along behind me to say something patently stupid like "If I had done my job right this wouldn't have happened." So how does it feel to be dumber than a drywaller?
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Well, I'm an electrician and I'd STILL put a piece of wood behind that.
Ditto
And tape on the seams
You know you done f’d up when an electrician is telling you how to patch Sheetrock
@@coreyamos8430 👍🤣
Don't need no effing wood.. that shows weakness.
Sheetrockers got no wood.
Retired electrician here.
You're just an ahole that want to install some stud behind his effup
Well I'm a drywaller... and I can tell you who ever did this patch don't know what they are doing.
Bull. If that's quality mud, it'll outlast the paint in the room.
@@rhull3939 what about the next paint job and the one after that... first off mesh tape sucks from the start. It's very hard to sand or hide a seam. This patch would have been fixed by a professional without any tape. It's called a California patch or a hot patch. It's where you cut the sheetrock the size of the hole with a snug fit while leaving the outside paper of the rock about 2 to 3 inches wider than the patch all the way around it. The paper left acts as paper tape while the sheetrock plugs the hole..... do me a favor and don't call bull when your talking to someone with well over 30 years experience in drywall.... thanks
Amen
@@benglett4864I'm was amazed the first time I learned how to do this. We were remodeling a house where the previous renter was not very happy when they were evicted so they put about 50 holes throughout the house.
🇺🇸💪🏻👊🏻🤙🏼
I agree. This is the hoaky way. Cali patch and hot mud all the way. Mesh tape creates high spots. It's smooth wall, and it'll create a shadow; especially if it's exposed to natural light.
Finish work looked good, but lord have mercy on that patch.
Somehow not surprised an electrician would be impressed. Exactly why I love getting plaster in the electrical boxes.
Ah, the old floating patch. Good luck with that.
Lol
Will never last 😂
Just what I thought and I know nothing 😂
@@gamebred88 What are you going to do to it to make it not last? I’ve done worse than this on a patch job in my house. After mud, primer, and paint it isn’t going to fall off or anything. Maybe a crack later but another coat of paint and it’s good again. I patch a 2 foot hole in my hallway 6 years ago, still there.
If it's this size it's fine
As a DIY guy I thought that was a great idea to patch a wall.... Phew I am glad I read some of the comments
It is. I've been drywalling for 10 years and this is perfectly fine for 1 small hole. I wouldn't recommend it for many holes or larger holes. Don't listen to people who've never even mixed mud
@@kirk5649 you’re a joke of a patch guy then lol this is trash work
@@whitebocolate69 it's not much different than a California patch. I've never done this but it should work. I don't California patch either but it's a method plenty of people use and it works for small holes... Like I said. If you say otherwise then you're full of sht
@@kirk5649 Now try to hang a picture on it.
Hahaha, I’m Hispanic, so I get insta clout. Jk jk
But seriously you’d want to probably screw in a piece of lumbar to give this thing some rigidity. If someone so much as leans in on this thing or hammers a tac to set a picture up it’s gonna give or you’ll at least get cracks at the seams
Electrician here too. I find it relaxing and enjoyable watching these guys work. I watch a guy on stilts make an arch ceiling. I had my coffee break and lunch watching him work. I’m a woman so the fellas thought I was crushing on him. No I enjoyed the artistry.
@@SpicerK I hate you break it to you but that was a shit repair
As a painting contractor I can tell you're an electrician if you love seeing this. Best to put some lumber back there first. It pokes thru easier than you think, especially when want to hang a picture on the wall. Hit that with a hammer or try an anchor there and see what happens. Quick ain't right
That’s the landlord special….cheap & fast!! 😂😂
And?
@@j.ballsdeep420 ….and and??
@@j.ballsdeep420shit that's what.
(Or else the building super-intendant?)
Nothing fast about it. That's just moronic.
As long as nobody touches that patch of wall ever again, you’re good.
Until you try to sell it. This way will leave a big hump on the wall. If you textured the walls it would be harder to spot.
@@sethwiley7839 not really lol
i see a lot of people saying how bad this is but it really isn't
i've yet to see anyone say anything better as well
the only alternative at this point would be to remove the entire segment of the wall and replace it because it will genuinely never look *perfect* to the original
@@zytha2890 You’re clueless
@@zytha2890 there is 100% a mound left on that wall for it to be ‘smooth as silk’
No one worth paying would patch a wall like this with the insert being available. They would reinforce it then patch it.
Not put a couple tiny bits of drywall seal tape into the hole and prayer to patch it lol
@@moonorchid9242 I'd never want a professional doing this kind of work, but for me doing a DIY hole repair, it's definitely good enough. Especially if you fan it out as he did at the end, it would make the mound a lot less visible
As for the tape, I think that's fibreglass tape so by all means thats very strong
"Plus I'm an electrician" I'm dying
Right!!... with this mesh tape method even after sanding and painting, the patch will be easily noticed
Each to their own when it comes to patching. But as a long time plasterer, if I can't put timber or furring channel behind it due to services, then at least use base coat or cornice cement.
Don't run a light across this wall, will be a nice speed hump.
I've used cornice cement between the patch edge then finished in 45 base
Did drywall for 5 years. There's a good reason you put a board behind the patch. That square will be bulging when that mud dries and it will look terrible. There is nothing holding that into the wall as it dries and the tension on that tape will pull it out enough to make it very noticable.
Reason why paper is better then finer tape. You're right though cheap scraps.of wood make this last longer
@@fev3rd paper is more likely to bubble or blister, mesh tape is the way to go most of the time and it’s easier and faster But not like how it’s done in this video is put some backing screw in the drywall then tape and mud it
@@MyDixieNormis I’ve had better experiences with the fiberglass tape. It’s like the mesh and paper mixed. Doesn’t bubble like the paper but it also doesn’t crack like the mesh. It’s far superior in my opinion
That ,and I'm no pro but I like the "cut an oversized piece and trim the back of it so it fits the hole,but also so the paper on front becomes the tape" trick.
@@MrTheHillfolkthat’s a California patch and it works very well
Tape goes on the top of the seams, not behind them🤣 but the mud work was nice, too bad that it will crack in the future
Dude should have just been a plasterer I guess
Honestly if you patch holes in sheet rock like this dude. You'd be better off just filling the hole with mud and calling it good.
Maybe there is no stress factor tip put mud the back of drywall and on top of patch,
If you think that this little hole is gonna crack in the future, you are one of those guys that says it’s my way or no way your way won’t work only my way will work and who the hell wants to work with people like that for real
I've readhered plaster in a 1920 postmaster's office. Unless you live in a seismically active area, the reason patches tend to crack is shrinkage of the mud. Using this little drywall compound, you're not going to experience much contraction. I'm an electrician also, but I have done enough drywall to know that this is fine for what was probably a double gang receptacle box that no longer exists at about 4" square.
My life must be boring cause i find this highly entertaining.
I am pretty sure everyone is bored/boring...
The videos or the arguments in the comments???
Yep
Well it looks nice, but it's called a floating patch, press against it the mud will cracked the paint you placed on it will crack also, this is a "landlord special" if you want to be faster just use a sheet of paper and use a paint roller ontop of it and paint it on, will do the same amount of hold but about 10x faster and infinitely cheaper lol
This is art
Yeah..... DIYer here. Thanks for the comments, i was gonna try this next patch job. THANKS!
As an electrician, I would tell the homeowners, "I don't patch. Either hire someone or DIY. You won't be happy with my results."
I Drywall but don't touch electrical.
It goes both ways.
Same here.
Did you also tell them to make sure to bring their own broom? 😂
That’s why you will never make top dollar. It’s so simple to learn and doesn’t take much time. Attitude and effort are what adds up to a good reputation. A good reputation brings the work.
Thank you for sharing this-sure makes patching easier and cleaner
Prefer to add wood backing,
Almost never should put wood backing
@@thenarrator1984why not?
@@Sweezy42069 it causes imperfections and tension.
Best way to do a drywall patch is a simple. California patch. Especially small ones like this.
@@thenarrator1984 100%
How so?
i used a paper plate once and for a decade people would ask if it was one on my wall 😹 funniest conversation piece ever
`You betta go’head with yo bad self’! Truly amazing!
My dad was a drywall guru. People sought him out from all walks of life. I regret not paying attention when he hired me for p/t work. Boy could I use that now 😢
Looks good from my house.
My dad was a Drywaller for over 30 years- anything from simple patches and corners to whole house texture work; Stucco; custom plaster moldings, decorative or ornate reproductions, and even restoration of Historic or Landmark buildings...
I never saw it when I was younger- but he was a true _ARTIST!_
As an interior wall finishing worker for 11 years I gotta say all bro did good was the editing. Towards the end of the video he scrapes the mud kind of hard which tells me that’s the final coat. He recorded the beginning and end of the work which could have been 30-60 minutes depending on how long the mud takes to set before next pass
Love these trolls to boost engagement but I’ve slung drywall mud for 287 years and this is exactly how it’s done
When I had to improvise a patch, I attached a paint stirrer across the backside of the hole, with liquid nails, then anchored the patch piece to it.
An even better version of this is to use 2 of them and create a lip at the top and bottom. That way you can glue all along the edge, rather than just at the ends, and create a firmer point of contact on both sides.
@@AerationalImportant to point out to anyone else that the only reason for the wood when doing this patch it simply to provide a surface for the patch to sit against so it can be flush with the rest if the wall. The tape and mud provide the actual strength of the patch as any piece of wood drilled into drywall will come apart just as easily as the drywall or patch would break. Also a reminder that these patches need to be done with hot mud.
He’s a pro when it comes to sloppy work😂
You are so right it really is an art. I did almost my whole house, I'm 64 this yr, own my own home from scratch,i had a friend who was a plasterer and he gave me a few tips & tricks, I practice in afinished room in my basement, it so much easier w/ the tips & tricks,it is a skill.
Electrician: I make the holes, I don't fix the holes
guest: *casually leans one hand on wall* "oops.."
nope, try again
You all have guests?
Not with that fibreglass tape
guest: casually leans one hand on wall
*the ENTIRE house crumbles down EXCEPT the patch*
"oops.."
The moment he said what profession he is in killed me😂
When an electrician says they can patch that spot, just tell them to only touch wiring. Otherwise you get a bulge in your house.
I use the blow out patch method and use the paper of the patch as the tape. Works flawlessly. 45 yrs experience here.
I feel that a "California patch" would be easier, give a cleaner finish, and use less mud. Plus it's just a chunk of drywall, so you eliminate the weird thick/stringy fiber tape. You should be using that super thin fiberglass tape for this kind of job anyway since it's thinner and requires less mud, which will give you a better finish.
That’s gonna crack! You need tape on those joints!
As long you use the proper mud itll never crack. You dont know what your talking about....
@@adammonahan687 it’ll crack.
@@adammonahan687hey man, don’t you know the Keyboard Dry Wallers know best…. That’s why they are watching a man do it and criticizing him!!
Those jokers are typically the ones that have no idea….some actually do, but because they’ve not seen it done that way, criticize it as well.
There’s more than a million ways to do the project correct, and only one way to do it wrong! If they’d pay attention, they might learn something.
Good job calling them out!
@jessedebter4408 exactly. These and people will say the same thing for a California patch. I've done hundreds of them. They are all doing great. In fact I'm staring at one I did 6 years ago. Can't even tell a repair was done. And it's really the same concept
@@adammonahan687A Cali patch isn’t close to this patch. A Cali patch uses the top layer on drywall as the binder. This guys got nothing. Hope he doesn’t plan on hanging anything from it.
If this was longer than 10 sec you'd see the cracks
😂Yep
As long as he's using the right mud, no
Not if its good mud lmao
I've was a drywall finisher 15 years. There's definitely an art to it
Hard to believe that David Lee Roth has gone from the singer of Van Halen to teaching drywall repair. I figured he'd be doing Vegas shows by now!!!✌️
How not to put in a patch.
1) No wood behind it
2) Didn't butter the edges
3) Used mesh.
This is for when you love your job so much you'll do it again, and again.
Which tape is better?
@@utubeisajokeIf you put wood behind it you don't need a tape
@@Sweezy42069 I put both
More like, didn't use mesh. The mesh is supposed to cover both existing and repair piece
@HerygersBrandon yes you do lol
The purpose of the tape is to go over the joint to avoid cracking. That's never going to last
It will work if he lets it dry and come back and put tape over it and remud it
You have no idea how good mud and quick set it nowadays. Go comment on something you actually know about
It'll last until after the house is sold...
@@adammonahan687 roflmao---
It'll probably last longer than my marriage.
You are right and a good dry Waller is a master at his craft.
You can make a patch by cutting the back of the drywall and snapping it, peel, and leave front paper on. Make piece a inch longer on all 4 sides. Put mud on flaps, and inside hole, place patch in, wipe the flaps down, and then cover the whole thing with 5 minute set, allow to set, use 20 minute set to finalize.
Just as easy to cut a little bigger to the studs, or put a board behind it.
Only an electrician would call this art work.
Well I'm a electrician and I dislike all things associated with dry wall. Except cutting as many holes as possible in it
No electrician is gonna bother with this.
I threw a coffee mug through a wall in motel I was staying at with my wife, put a hole about twice the width of a baseball fairly round, plaster board , so I went to hardware shop and pretty much bought exactly this stuff in video. I took a piece of wall with me so paint shop could match paint on piece in there colour scanner.
Did exactly what they did here sanded it back then dried and painted it, had to fully open windows, lucky we were on top floor and we were at end of a hallway with wind blowing down and into our room, the windows inside open kept pulling the air and letting the air coming under front door out and no smell of plaster and paint. Bought some scented candles with subtle smells one was "neutral " smell and other had a light "ocean " smell, no one ever said anything. Paint matched perfectly after drying, ive had it not match after drying but I think he made a few shades different to account for this, the paint age.
Cost me $78 for bits and pieces basic tools, sand paper, filler, flat edged tool, etc, I spent $40 on taxi to hardware and back and had to pay an extra $35 at hotel for late checkout, yep it happened 30min before checkout time finish and then they charged me a second late checkout fee of $65. I was worried it might fall out or change shape before it dried, I rushed it but did a pretty good job in the end just had to wait for it to dry and it smelled and was shiny where it was still wet. All good in the end though, I was so lucky my cup didn't go through the otjer side if wall I to a couples room. They definitely heard it gonthrpugh my side and his theres really hard because I heard a female WTF WAS THAT. I opened door and a young guy my age opened door, he wouod of been listening to my wife and I argue and I look at him and about to say im sorry and he interrupted and says "No you good bro, don't worry I've heard everything that bitch been saying to you, don't worry you good." LOL but yes I shouldn't have thrown mug at wall at all in first place, no matter how much she made me angry or mad
This is completely ok if your using bag mud or durabond especially. Also whenever you use mesh tape you have to use bag mud for the first coat as bucket mud will not hold to the tape and bubble up
I work with alot of people in the "Trades" and one line I always here them say.
" I can't see it from my house. "
That's what hacks say
@@fuzzymonkey-qe1xp Bullshit...if you cut the deadline and try to run the job up my ass cause you want it bad...you get it bad. It'll look good from my house 😆😆.
I get it now. Sheesh. Yeah there are a lot of shitty lazy people out there.
Looks good from my couch
We also have the concrete guarantee, guaranteed until we leave your concrete driveway
but i love this debate here cause you can see how passionate drywallers are about their work, it truly is art over knowledge, spanish texturing stomped ceilings creating something truly beautiful with mud and a knife
I love the sound of this, it reminds me of painting and mixing colors on my palette. It's soothing
As an electrician, I take a wood shim put a screw on either side of the hole with the wood behind it screw the patch to the shim, tape, mud, more secure than that
1. Use wooden backing.
2. Indent the piece of drywall so it falls below the surface of the surrounding drywall. This way you avoid having to smear a mountain of filler to get a seemingly flat surface.
3. Thank me later.
OK Monk😂
Yes
Thank you.
Cut a piece bigger than the hole. And then use the excess without the plaster backing as the tape. Cut the same size of the top layer of paper on the wall itself. You get no bump and a perfect seem.
Works best for smaller holes.
Gotta love that apartment complex maintenance guy patch work… every time I interview a guy who says he has a substantial number of years experience in remodeling all from working at apartment complexes… I know not to hire him. They may work fast but you have to redo everything they do.
We're not all like that
Yeah I did remodeling before doing apartment maintenance
We don't get paid for sh*t
@@eelobrian1 oh I hear ya. Lack of pay and constantly being rushed to finish the quickest, cheapest way possible tends to leave for sub par work. But working there too long tends to make it hard to unlearn those bad habits.
Knowing how to do half-assed work without one of the right tools, while still doing a good job is what makes experienced maintenance guys the best all-rounders. Ive been both, all, professional, hack landlord, and getting 90% of the way there for 50% of the time and cost almost always pencils out. Like machinists that intentionally ruin their bits to get a job done 4x faster.
I was taught to use the paper from the drywall on the sides, cut the plaster away and peel it off so you have a plug surrounded by paper, then mud it into place.
Gorgeous! Not a drywaller, but I did something similar to my ex's apartment wall when two of our sons had a "discussion" about computer time and one tossed the other through a wall. I used a chunk of wood for the backing, a chunk of drywall, and put a piece of printer paper over that. Mudded it in, and my ex was able to get his deposit back when he moved! I have no explanation for the kids. Russian jewish Vikings. I've fixed a lot of walls....they were a lil WILD. LoL!
I appreciate the cut where you can see the patch outlines and then its miraculously flat. Its like magic!
sneaky sneaky edits
My dad is a drywaller and I've worked with him and every part of the job has an art to it
Riiiight. An "art" anyone can learn in 5 days. 😂
Diaz Construction strikes again 😂
@@albertol9654 lol 😂
Thank you, this is a save for me. I tried patching a hold in the wall. I couldn't figure out how to make it work like I wanted. I didn't look just right, so thanks. Now I have another method that will work better.
Don’t do it read the comments😭
Been drywalling for years. It’s not an art, it’s a job.
Then you're doing it wrong
@@alexandermarquez8351 no you’re just too proud of yourself
@silkandstones5964100%
@silkandstones5964 thinking is good you should try it
@@alexandermarquez8351 My dad is a retired drywall finisher. He would 100% agree with you. Don't get me wrong -- it's fecking hard work. But it's an art.
As a professional drywall installer you never use fiber tape, and you always put wood behind it.
Not sure who sold you on “no finer tape”
@@user-wf2gv7vd8b I wouldn't use finer tape either
As a professional drywaller fibre tape with fast set paper tape with mud .
In England we call workers like you cowboys .@JamesTaylor-qz6rf
@byroneckhardt4131 you should never use fast set with tape. You can't sand it, it only glosses. Fast set should only be used as a filler. I personally use ConFill. Fiber tape is for DIY when you don't know any better. Paper tape is industry standard for a reason.
I was a grounds keeper and the property manager came to me as the maint/crew couldn't be found and a unit needed drywall work done.I was asked if I knew how to patch.I did and went patched textured and painted and promoted....I love drywall work and stucco.....
As an electrician, one small piece of wood behind and 3 screws would make that so much easier and quicker.... and honestly, it's probably more robust than just some mesh.
Someone gonna lean on that and be like wtf just happened 😂
It’ll last as long as the mud isn’t dogwater. You can punch a hole through new drywall just the same.
Lol. You literally couldn't have done that any more wrong. Warms my heart. Love the drywall safety gloves by the way. Mud is super dangerous!
The mud may not be sharp, but the knife damn sure is, especially the corners.
As a former safety rep at a large company, this was one of the most common hand injuries, it tends to happen while cleaning tools.
@@EveeHarting 🤣
rofl i didnt even notice the gloves.
@@EveeHarting lols id be more worried about paper cuts tbh
When I was an apprentice, I always tripped out on how well the Holes that we made were patched up🤔🤨💯 like it was never there🧐🧐 bad ass skills
And there is just something so fulfilling and satisfying watching this done as well
It would of been easy to put tape over the patch, I would use a hard setting mix, then finish with a sandable mud! I did drywall patching for a few years, we always used furring strips behind the patch!
Never trust anyone who says "would of"...😊
@@Daft_Ideas I’m gunna remember that.
All you need is a piece of drywall two inches wider than the hole and you don’t need no tape at all. It’s called a blowout patch.
And it will not crack 💯👍
True...
Had a buddy who called them California patches
We call them Newfie patches
Learned it as a butterfly patch... heard it called a california patch too.
Thank you. I was wondering why no one is talking about this. I just posted the same thing. I like the way you said it better.
That's not how I would do it but if it stands the test of time good on him. I'm just glad to hear an electrician recognize the skill of another tradesman.
40 years of mud work experience asking whats up with the tape? Are you trying to keep the rock from moving backwards?
I always leave the rock paper hanging over the sides. Put the mud on first, then put the patch in. Pull the mud out from under the paper. Never had one crack. Im open to learning new things. Just because you have been something a long time doesn't mean you have been doing it right.
It's easier to make a butterfly patch with the drywall piece itself. Takes a LOT less skimming and looks super clean.
But still super weak unless you use a nailer strip
He probably tried but couldn’t figure out how to cut it properly.
I felt that drywall/electrician comment. I look at houses completely different now.
Love reading all the comments hating on this . That is excellent work 99% could never do. I am just curious if all the morons are gonna walk around us poking their walls in their houses all day looking for spots like that. I normally don’t do it. I’m gonna poke all the spots in the walls of my house tonight so I can be a hater that’s great and hold up, if you punch it, it’s gonna leave a hole in it FYI so 99% of the drywall in your house there is going to be a mark and leave home.
A few of the biggest weaknesses for men
#1 can’t say sorry & mean it
#2 like putting your hands on your thank you it makes it tough to bully a woman
#3 not able to give another man or woman props or credit for something they can’t do or that they do better . Great work my guy
It might look clean but it's a garbage patch soft spot forever
😮 you don’t say. Well hopefully the soft spot authorities don’t make a surprise visit or a burglary don’t find out and enter thru the 4x4 hole damn
@@zonabot6029 wtf are you even talking about?
It looks clean from a close up only on that spot. If you leave leave anything stick out of the whole you have to putty over and it takes a good amount. When done right nothing should be sticking out.
Thats crazy i would have never thought about using the tape like that to fix a patch. Usually id stick a piece behind and screw into that
You mean you'd do it the right way? This is not the correct way lol. Always back it with a piece of wood or paint stick or something lol
There's an art to every job. Doesn't matter what it is. The pros will always make it look easy.
The only art to drywall murders is filling switch boxes with mud. As for drywall hangers their art is routering the wires inside jboxes.
And the art of electrical is just twisting wires. You're all clowns
Yeah and your art work is turning a perfectly good wall into Swiss cheese.
There may be an art to it but damned if I ever seen it
Insulator here. Great drywall work!
As a german who lives in a home with real walls videos like these are really funny
For russian with concrete walls too.
Not real walls either, you still have to insulate those walls, add furring strips and sheet rock, unless you want to freeze in the winter and melt in the summer…..
Remember when we tore your walls down? 😅
@@Pals777bruh, too savage 😸
In no world would I want a house with masonry or concrete walls. Stronger, yes. More of a pain in the ass to do any work on, yes. Our walls don't fall down over here. I have never seen a wall collapse that wasn't in a natural disaster (hurricane, tornado, etc) or had major foundation issues.
This is the greatest procedure for patching the wall. My father never did this - he would have loved it!🙏🙏🙏
Your dad never did it this way because its wrong 😂
Quality is key great job my friend. I'm a Realtor and you're absolutely correct !
If anyone wants to know how to properly patch a hole like that, you should search for Vancouver Carpenter's video on how to do a California patch.
There are several things wrong with the method shown in this video, but rule number one is to always put tape over all seams. That is one of the most basic rules that should always be followed! There is more wrong with the method shown in the video, but the fact that he did not put tape spanning the seams is enough to prove that the patch is garbage.
If you are going to patch without placing wood behind it, you should definitely use a California dry wall patch. There are hundreds of videos on UA-cam that show how to do a California patch correctly.
When I have patched holes in my own house, I actually used a piece of wood behind it and a California patch. I guarantee that my patches will last without cracking as long as the wall surrounding the patch.
you mean a butterfly patch
@@davidbybee9930
It is similar depending on what's your definition of a butterfly patch is. A California patch is usually square or rectangular.
Ah, the artwork of the tiktok jump cut. magically turns a floating square into a flat wall.
Not OSHA approved this would fail if under inspection
your head aint on right, thats just rage bait your to uneducated to get
LMFAO right! I caught that too haha good eye
Impossible, it’s not flat. If you leave part of the patch out of the drywall you will have a hump. Look at how much putty he put on it. If the patch is sticking out your will you have to layer it to cover it.
Whoever punches that dry wall patch is gonna think they’re stronger than they really are
Wish someone could patch my broken heart like this guy patches drywall 😢
Perfect if your goal is to leave a hill on your wall.
My almost 2 year old laughed his ass off at this for some reason
As a commercial drywaller, electricians helped us perfect the art of cleaning your mess up easy fast and expensive
Looks nice for now, but will most certainly fail in a short time. The rigidity of the patch is compromised because the patch piece of drywall isn’t bonded to anything. Since the mesh tape goes behind patch piece, it is not bonded. Further since the tape changes plains, the tensile strength is compromised as well. But it does look nice & smooth when it’s done.
Being proud of your paper house skills is so comical
Its ½" of gypsum too... Its like paper brick. Nice happy medium if the Big Bad Wolf comes to town.
No, that will be a weak spot always. What you have to do is to put a piece of backing wood behind and use drywall screws to secure it. Then you can put that block of drywall and mesh tape around.
Its a wall who cares if its weak tf
It'll still won't be flush...
I love how people in the comments are talking about drywall as if it's durable to begin with...
This video was educational for men who live with women
I've never thought of using tape to do that. What I normally do is will cut the wall at an angle so it doesn't fall in.
Drywall finishers are wizards 🧙♂️
Thank you
And he’s an electrician. Stick to your profession.
Understatement to be called artwork. Whenever I need to drywall my wife insists I call I professional.
It depends on who you're doing the job for really. Some people are cheap and only want the bare minimum done, and they want it done fast. In those cases, this is perfect.
I can see why an electrician would like this, it must be satisfying to see all the holes you guys make get filled up like it didn’t happen 😂👍
No... If you do this on my house i would fight you... That part of the wall will always be higher. Since you didnt use enough tape, now that tape will ALWAYS be applying a force to the small oiece of drywall instead of just supporting it... Nice 👍😂
As an automotive technician I will DIY almost any other trade's work, but drywall/plaster... I'd rather pay someone to do it right the first time. 😂
As an electrician myself, I can tell you that we are here to put holes in walls, not patch them.
If we happen to put them in the right spot, so much the better.
I came here to say exactly this. Usually with the claw end of my hammer when they bury the Box
Do your job right and don’t damage people’s homes
@@wtfdidijustwatch1017 Sometimes the drywaller forgets to cut out the hole for my outlet. Which is neither my fault, nor my problem.
I knew more than a few electricians who would "find" the outlet by dead reckoning. Since you seem to be well versed in electrical work, what do you recommend?
For the most part I would find them by rocking a straightedge horizontally and vertically until I found the center of the bulge where I would make the tiniest hole that I could, and use a piece of wire bent into an "L" that I would twist to try and hear if it was striking the wires rolled up in the box. If so, I would use the hole as my starting point to cut out the drywall covering the box. I almost always got it right the first time.
What never happened was a drywaller coming along behind me to say something patently stupid like "If I had done my job right this wouldn't have happened."
So how does it feel to be dumber than a drywaller?