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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Chamberlain and MyQ have been rug pulling their customers over the last couple of weeks, with an announcement that they were cutting of API access to all of their users, forcing all of those users to use the MyQ app and suffer a much worse experience. Let's talk about the situation and what you can do in the future to make sure this never happens in your smart home again.
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As one of the 20,000 who experienced this first hand I can sum up the experience. I went from being excited that chamberlin built in this functionality out of the box to appreciating the community for fixing the MyQ integration(multiple times) to viewing Chamberlin as a villian for shutting down 0.2% of their user base who just want to use the hardware they bought to make their lifes easier.
Smart builders don't use Chamberlain anymore 😊
New tagline from any other vendor
This is one way to kill of your company, smart is where where headed and if they're forcing us to swit u vendors or used a different solution, eventually their market of garage opener will dwindle. I mean all twhu have is garage opener.....
@@JeffGeerling What we really need is for someone to develop a raspberry pi powered garage door motor. Any takers? Jeff? ;P
@@unfaix You know...they added speakers to the openers under the guise of beeping them before the door starts closing via remote control. I can't wait until they get audio ads working. That way we can get targeted ads yelled at us when we start/end our commutes.
A better option is to use a dumb opener like the Genii. You can open/close the door with a simple relay, use a magnetic switch connected to a gpio to sense open/closed, and use frigate with an IP camera of your choice. All very easy to implement with an ESP32 and ESPHOME.@@embeddedtech
In the Netherlands, smart utility meters are required to have a local interface to which you can connect. The protocol even needs to be implemented according to a standard. It would be so nice to have this requirement for all smart home appliances in the EU. Especially since the energy grid is changing and we need more interoperability to unfuck this.
The USB C of iOT 👍
We can dream 😅
I wish UK did similar with the smart meters as they already have ZigBee in the meter units. The in home displays could expose an API/MQTT endpoint to scrape data from since they're connected to WiFi anyways.
I have a useless IHD that was provided by my previous supplier and whilst it still works and sits on WiFi, it doesn't submit anything to the cloud because the provider (Bulb) went bust. The manufacturer Chameleon wants me to buy the same exact thing again with a different firmware to rely on their cloud service to pool for current readings...
Luckily, Octopus provided me with the free mini bridge which connects my meter into their platform for nearly live readings.
@@mateuszdrab it's actually a European law, I know all meter were replaced in France and in Germany they need to be smart for the last 10 years or so on new construction.
It's very convenient, hope they'll do the same with water meter and I'll be all set 😅
@@tiloalo oh well, probably won't apply here after Brexit 😅 Water meter is an interesting concept, but honestly I don't care much (at all tbh) about having live water use readings. Electricity is the only one I really care about 🤓
Yup, local solutions all the way. Anything requiring cloud can always be taken away from us at anytime by corporations.
The worst feeling ever when you find a new smart home device that nails everything, only to find out it's cloud only 🥹
@@EverythingSmartHome I am wait listed in ratgdo
@@EverythingSmartHome It's not 'the cloud', it's somebody else's computer...
@@EverythingSmartHome mostly everything on aliexpress seems to be cloud only, but then it has a local api.
except for tuya. those things are great but i don't like the company behind
Yeah, you think that until you have a local system taken away from you too! I have enphase solar and connected to their local api. One day they blasted out a firmware update which got rid of local auth so now their local api uses the cloud to auth. Also no way to roll back. Support were not helpful and based on their forums they seem to be just hoping this will go away.
Fantastic video, we need more from online influencers calling out companies like this for their bad behaviours. Well done.
Just doing my bit to name and shame, doubt it will make any difference to them but at least I tried!
Don't underestimate the power of your videos. Sometimes it's just the first drop of water, followed by a big storm coming. Greetings from Germany :)
Lesson: don't EVER use anything that needs cloud to work. It will always backfire.
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What's the alternative to Alexa and Google home though that's workable. Home Assistants local voice control isn't quite there yet.
@@KrispKiwi there's a tutorial on this channel to allow Google Home to call Home Assistant's API
@@KrispKiwiLocal LLMs + Local Whisper could be used to control HA *today*. Not sure if anyone has built a solid solution that’s available to everyone, but the tech is all on the table.
@@KrispKiwi There isn't a nice alternative at the moment for voice assistants. But a well automated home shouldn't be dependent on a voice assistant. I think it was Smart Home Solver who said "Anytime I have to use my voice or touch a switch, I feel like I've failed." While I think that is a bit of hyperbole, I do think the voice assistant is a nice add on not a essential feature. That said, after we moved it took a while to find unpack and set up our google devices. We'd find ourselves says, "Okay, google, what time is it?" Or "Okay, google, how long does it take to get to...." because it was second nature, and while it isn't a big deal to go pick up our phone from the other room or whatever -- it did make my family more aware of how much they've come to depend on things I pushed for.
Before MyQ or anything like that was around, I used a momentary relay and a Zigbee switch. It has been flawless and it is totally local.
I use opengarageio myself. Local control for home assistant if thats your thing.
MyQ devices do not support momentary grounding like old garage doors. Instead, MyQ uses a serial bus. What is funny is that in this age or Arduino, MyQ did not encrypt the protocol. This is how ratgdo reverse engineered the protocol. After this decision, the protocol will be open source published in days.
@@joblackthorne knowing them, they'll try to sue whoever publishes the protocol
I just took the board out of a rf remote and soldered a home assistant relay to the button contacts. The remote was powered by a single 3v 2032 battery, so the 3.3v supplied from the esp32 powers the board, no battery is needed. I added a magnetic reed switch to the garage door to tell me when the door is open through home assistant, with notifications to my phone and smartwatch. I happen to have a Genie opener, but the principle is the same. Serial bus problem solved, isolated, so no voltage problems.
@@justinonimus2916we do the same thing... But use Lutron io module
I've hooked OpenGarage to the push to operate contacts on two garages. They have ultrasonic distance sensors so mounted to the ceiling can tell if there's a vehicle present and, for up and over doors, if the door is open or closed. The newer model has a second set of contacts for a wired door position sensor which I used for my roller door where the distance sensor can't see the door.
HA integration works great and the board / case is well built around an ESP 8266 so simple to connect over WiFi.
I installed my RATGDO last weekend and it is amazing. So happy to be off the MyQ cloud. Better functionality with RATGDO than I had with MyQ and so easy to integrate into Home Assistant. Plus, it gets rid of the beeping when closing the garage door remotely!
It would be really nice to get a good summerisation video on local/open source alternatives to the common smart devices. (blinds speakers, doorbell, lights etc) for anyone that wants to get more involved as its a real minefield out there
Yep. This royally screwed my garage door automations over. I ordered a couple ratgdo units a few weeks ago which were just delivered yesterday. I can't wait to get them installed!
Nice, enjoy the Ratgdo!
Just got mine yesterday too!
Someone really needs to tell Chamberlin about API key and rate limits...
It’s an excuse. Any half-way competent engineer building an infrastructure capable of supporting 10 million users should have already built in safeguards - if only to protect themselves from DDOS attacks. Which they just invited, BTW.
If they had a clue, they would be handing out API keys along with an ‘acceptable use’ document, and disable any API user that falls outside those parameters. No, they want more recurring revenue, whether it’s through licensing fees and advertising to a captive audience. Trouble is, their products are basic and low-turnover. There shouldn’t be a lot of user interaction for use of the basic functions of an appliance. Rather than looking for adjacent product markets and expanding into them, they’re attempting to squeeze their installed base without adding any value.
Garage lighting is an obvious one, anti-theft addons is another (theft of tools and bikes from an open garage is a big problem, for example). Even a dumb mechanical ‘package drop’ product would make more sense than MyQ/Amazon Key.
Shhhh ... They need to bump traffic to their app so they can sell more ads.
As one of those myq users, I've been aiming to switch as much to local-only control for a while now, and kept putting off the garage door since for the last while, the myq integration has actually been pretty good for me. So this incident gave me the "opportunity" to switch to something local for it as well. And the ratgdo was very easy to install and gives me more features than before, as you can control the lights, lock remotes, and open the garage door to a specific position in addition to opening/closing.
I too had little problem with the integration until this. I just got my ratgdo in the mail yesterday. Not sure if I'll have the time to install before the weekend, but its a high priority at this point as I had come to rely on that integration more than I realized!
The Rug pull really really sucks. I can't stand losing functionality I used to always have. I totally plan on voting with my wallet, but the problem in this case is that for both residential and commercial applications Chamberlain/Liftmaster are the makers of the vast majority of garage and gate openers in the United States. The other options that exist tend to be vastly inferior brands that tend to break over a relatively short period of time. I went the route of purchasing the Ratgdo and will power down my MyQ as soon as it comes in.
Indeed, it's like I mentioned in the video, they pretty much have a monopoly and they know it
I'm glad you wrote this, I thought he said rug pilled and I was really confused
I hope some people don't just vote with their wallets, but with their lawyers! You were robbed.
@@StephenMatrese This, exactly. Time for a class action lawsuit. They put the API and integrations in their sales material, then pulled that functionality after the devices were purchased and installed. Bait and switch. Tons of companies have been sued into bankruptcy for similar. Couldn't happen to a better company.
I just got my ratgdo up and running a few days ago. Being able to open the garage door to a set position has been awesome. Added “open/close garage a little/lotta bit” commands to Alexa
Thanks for this video. I have been unhappy with MyQ from the outset, but as you say they have virtually a monopoly on openers in the US. I took this opportunity to learn a bit about hardware and came up with my own solution. There is a device called the Aqara Dual Relay Module T2. You can use it to trigger electrical pulses. Because my garage door is newer, I couldn’t just wire it into the opener, so instead I took a backup remote I had laying around and soldered 2 wires from the T2 to the switch on the circuit board inside the remote. It works perfectly. Also, since the T2 has 2 channels, I was able to get a very cheap sensor and wire it into the second channel to report back whether the garage is open or closed. I was able to integrate it into Home Assistant very easily to run all my automations. The whole setup works fantastic and was a very inexpensive and reliable solution! I couldn’t be happier being able to completely remove everything having to do with MyQ from my setup.
That’s nice and simple solution for the problem. I hope that the ratgdo and other similar hacks like yours will gain the attention of the users enough that they wont have many paying customers going forward.
It really grinds my gears when manufacturers make selfish decisions like these to block even that ”0,2%” of the customer base. I actully wish it is a lot bigger amount than that or it grows with announcements like these.
The market is open now for the taking of locally controlled options. Lets see if they catch on popularity among new buyers or users will have to solder remotes again after 10-20 years when the companies deside that they don’t want to support their crappy cloud any more. 😄
I had been locked out of MyQ through everything but my alarm account, so I dodged this bullet. That said, these companies are just asking for someone to come around with a local API. Everything should have a local option. At least Weatherflow still gets it.
local all the way. got a new home years ago, it came with a myq garage opener. i thought about using it, but ultimately decided to just use a relay and team that with a tilt sensor to monitor my garage door. has been working solid for years. it may not be the most optimal way, but it works
Sounds like you made a great decision!
Making my own garage door integration was my very first HA project. Using ESPHome, I have opened/closed/moving functionality as well as a parking sensor. I can open and close remotely and get a notification that the door isn't closed if I leave home and don't close it. Garage temp/humidity is displayed and a sensor tells me if there is movement in the garage. I didn't use MyQ because of the reasons stated in this vid. With today's power of HA, there are very few cloud based solutions needed. Just make your own. That's the reason we do this crazy thing, right?
As a home integrator I can tell you it even worse then just shutting down the API. The latest Charberlain doors use a proprietary wireless (maybe blluetooth who knows) standard to talk to the door. The 2 wires provide the power to the button. Contact closure what used to open and close the door doesn't work anymore. Even soldering contact closure on the buttons directly for the smart ones under us creates conditions the door will open on it self randomly. So if you want to integrate your garage door into a 3rd party don't buy MyQ from Chamberlain and the other brands they sell .
Lewis, Thanks for the video. I was banging my head on this dying on me. I grabbed the Meross unit and install in about 5 minutes. I made sure to update the Meross HACS integration and it works perfectly!! My wife is happy now! 😎
I have an older garage door opener with only a push button on 5V.
I've connected a esp8266 and a reed sensor. I control the door with Home Assistant and esp home. Works like a charm 😁
6:21 I found it Hilarious that when you said Ads, a youtube ad played
To throw my 2 cents in, ive been thinking about adding MyQ to my homeassistant green (as soon as it arrives from EST store), but clearly cant do that now. Ive been Advocating for local control in my household and now only buy devices that dont require the cloud. I really hope the community project to locally control garage doors takes off.
Haha totally coincidence I swear 👀
Greens start shipping today btw!
@@EverythingSmartHome fantastic to hear. I started out by running it on my nas, but its just not powerful enough and constantly crashing. I was happy once the HA team added network storage to the software. Now with the MyQ issue gone, my next task is to add something similar to your morning announcment, but with a little of my own flair. I cant quite figure out the code though
Edit: quite literally just found the article on your website. Thank you for that
I bought a Chamberlain opener since I got a high end model for a really good price. I didn't mind it being cloud controlled at the time because I knew I could always get around it if it ever got in the way. I'll be modifying my current opener, and will be avoiding Chamberlain in the future out of principle, even if I can make it locally controllable.
Thanks for this video. I am one of those MyQ user's. I have been looking around for other options. I was controlling my garage door and my sisters doors through Home Assistant and had automation set up for both doors in HA. So my dream now would be able to have local control for my door and also some kind of local control for my sisters door, she does not have HA. I have been thinking of using some type of ESP device with port forwarding into my sisters garage door. This way it would not depend on any companies cloud service.
I went with the Meross with Home Kit option. The Meross solution works so much better than the MyQ/Chamberlain hardware.
Thanks Lewis for the update. Glad I am still using my 30 years old “dumb” opener with a simple zooz multi relay module. Glad the community picked up with a local control solution. 😉
Same here. I'm using FortezZ MIMOLITEUS that I've run for who knows how many years. I can monitor the door contact and switch the door on the same device. I originally bought it for Smarttthings, but I've fully switched all my devices over the Home Assistant. I'm building a new home in the near future and I would love to see a compilied list of locally controlled equipment to make my purchase list from.
One of my previous gripes with the MyQ integration was that you could not, as a regular user, bypass the lights and sirens when using it to close the door even if you were on the same local network. I was told that it was impossible to bypass however the Amazon Key service is able to shut the door without the lights and sirens so that was a lie.
I think what they were trying to say was that 0.2% of the users abused the API, not that the usage of the API was from only 0.2% of the user base.
Subscription tiers and fees will be next, just as Wink hubs did years ago, and we all remember how that ended up for them.
would be cool to see an ESP showcase of DIY IOT devices follow thing video.
This exact issue has been my gateway into home assistant and down a rabbit hole that has consumed me for some weeks now. We have a farm and we are very much diy people, more due to necessity than anything else. Luckily I like tech and very much enjoy the home automation side. I’ve had it on the back burner running basics including our myQ garage door openers through HomeBridge so when it all fell apart I started looking elsewhere. Now I’m full on home assistant junkie and my fix was meross antenna and they work seamlessly with my HA and HomeKit. I’m not so sure yet that myQ did me a favor, my husband and our checking probably don’t think so, but I’ve learned a lot and loving the new journey.
I installed a Chamberlain (Merlin, but same same) motor earlier in the year and was chuffed to see it was integrated with HA - but the add on thing for it was quite expensive. I bought a Meross controller off Amazon for 1/3 of the price and it works perfectly fine for us - integrates perfectly into HA too.
Never have I ever been happier that I bought a repair kit for my bog standard late 1990s/early 2000s "dumb" garage door opener instead of replacing it with a MyQ. A DIY solution utilizing a relay running ESPHome works well. I'm glad that there's a commercial version available for folks that don't have the experience or inclination to roll their own solution.
YT appears to right on message - the moment you said the word "Ads", then bang! UA-cam cuts to an in-roll ad break,
Spooky!!
I never trusted the MyQ cloud service and wired an extra remote with a relay. Added a contact sensor and bam! Local control!
Had mine setup for years in Home Assistant & Homebridge, bought a Meross and it works like a charm!
My garage door setup is a Z-Wave Zooz ZEN17 Universal Relay. I can remotely open and close my garage door and can also get the status of it as well as the access door so I know if either door is open. No cloud is needed, just home assistant. It's also a non-battery solution, meaning that it's constantly online and the door sensors are hard-wired (non batteries) and I can ping the device at any time and get the status of either door. Status changes are instantaneous within Home Assistant.
The first ESPHome project I did quite some time ago was integrating an esp8266 into the wall switch which now has an usb-port for power. Works perfectly and was easier than I thought :-) And I am not at mercy and I know this solution will work with the next unit as well.
Same. It was my first ESP project as well. 🎉
I love hearing your call for locally connected devices. The thing I struggle with is knowing what devices are worth my time and which aren't. Is there a database of devices that has reliability information? I just don't have time to make researching the companies behind smart home tech port of setting up a smart home. That's the part that I want to spend my time and creativity with.
Indeed, it can be a minefield, that's why reviews are so critical!
The Tasmota compatibility list works if you don't mind ripping devices apart and flashing your own firmware to them... I don't buy stuff if I can't, but it's obviously not an ideal solution, and does require some electronics and computer skills that not everyone has (or doesn't have time for).
Genie works great and it is powerful while being super quiet. Garage door openers are super easy to change out. Our old, noisy, POS garage door opener was a Chamberlain. Glad we switched!
Yes, but the Genie is still not local controlled. It relies on Internet servers and can also be 'upgraded' it the same way MyQ has done if Alladin decides in the future that they want a leader slice of the users pie. I have a Genie, but I do not like that it doesn't have local only control.
Our home came with 2 myQ openers. It was working in HA until the recent issues. I received a couple ratdgo units, printed a case off printables, and plan to get them installed this weekend.
I am very glad I modified my garage door (Merlin) using a Shelly 1 Relay now. The relay is just wired into the door button points they have on the outside of the control box for external switches, and the contact points for the door sensor are also wired into the relay. So for $17 AUD I made my garage door "smart", and using Home assistant widgets with authentication enabled my figerprint opens my garage from my phone. I also used zones so when my wife is halfway up our road heading home the doors opens, works great.
After the first couple of outages I decided to just wait and see. After the last extended outage I unplugged MyQ and spliced in a Shelly1 (since ratgdo wasn't available) and haven't looked back. Local, faster, and no stupid beeping on closing.
I'm giving tailwind a try - mainly because of the vehicle sensor to better open the door upon arrival.
I'm so glad to see that there are already alternatives popping up (and kind of overvlooded) to kind of fight back these big companies. i't not a lot, but a lot of small impacts make big differences
Got Myself a RATGDO 2.5 and it works great super easy to setup and gives me more control over myq garage door
That's great news!
Here in NZ we are so short of options for "open" products that I've been waiting years for product lines that promise support for Zigbee and now Matter. I've had to buy some light switches and power outlets using Tuya in a couple of key places but still waiting before I go wholesale replacement of electrical fittings. Have bought Philips Hue products with Zigbee support and they're working well but want coordinated fittings.
This video is a timely reminder to keep waiting. Currently in the process of swapping my Ring doorbell for the Reolink sitting on my desk that you featured recently!
I'm betting the 0.2% is accurate. I'm also betting about 0.2% of their huge install base uses smart homes beyond just the App, and I don't think the App users are terribly prevalent either. They're going to cherry pick the statistics that make them sound the most in the right. The "DDOS" attacks may just be as simple as "we get a bunch of denied logins when we blow up people's API logins, we have decided this is an attack". In my home the previous owners installed a MyQ garage door. I'll likely use the Meross system to get it back under my control after I verify compatibility. If I ever replace the opener, it wont be a Chamberlain.
A few months ago, had to replace our garage door roller motor recently and Merlin (part of Chamberlain group) was the only feasible replacement motor.
Hated the idea of subscribing to their proprietary "smart home" that is MyQ so grabbed an OpenGarage instead. Turns out it was the correct choice to make.
It's a little bit more involved than plug and play, but has been working a treat and it's all locally hosted and integrated with Home Assistant, it's great!
I added the Meross opener. Added HA using the Meross LAN infestation in HACS. Been rock solid.
Since the Chamberlain wall button isn’t even a dry contact anymore, just power to a wall mounted remote, I soldered a GoControl X-Wave garage door controller to the button in the wall controller. The GoControl just “pushes” the button for me. Has worked flawlessly for years. Blocked the Chamberlain at the router and deleted the app. Don’t miss the ads for even a second.
As an integrator we simply solder to the physical button and control with io board, for every lock there is a key....
I have a lift aster opener, but an older one that works with a simple push button 2004-ish). I’ve had myQ for years-long before I began with home assistant. I have fashioned a Shelly relay and a couple reed switches to do the job as the hookup channel demonstrated. I began this conversion before this debacle as twice my myQ randomly opened my garage with no one home. The Shelly Works great. If I need to replace this opener, it won’t be a chamberlain made brand.
Been using a Refoss/Meross device with my Chamberlain 'MyQ enabled' GDO since buying it three years ago. Low cost and works perfectly with Google and Alexa, as well as locally over the network if desired. It also uses a dedicated physical position sensor to ensure the door itself is actually open or closed.
I have a MyQ garage door opener - and was affected. The main reason - the GDO has a built in battery and works even during a power outage - a unique feature at the time. I cannot help but wonder if there was any polling that the Home Assistant integration needed to do was part of the issue.
Personally, I'll be disconnecting my GDO from the cloud. Instead, I have an ELK M1 hooked up to Home Assistant and have wired an output on this to an extra garage door remote button. The door magnetic sensor is connected to the Elk M1 as an alarm zone. So - I can both monitor and control my garage door directly from Home Assistant via Elk. A fully local solution. All I need now is a 'virutal' Garage Door device with status driven from one entity and control offered through another (and I know this soliution is there somewhere for me to find!)
When the GDO needs replacing - Chamberlain can be sure I will go out of my way to buy a different brand.
Edit: I have decided to also add a Zooz ZEN17 (relay) and ZSE43 (tilt acceleration sensor) so I can make this natively zwave.
I have an old garagedoor from the nineties or so. The best solution for me was to make my own using ESP Home. That way I got garagedooropener, lux-sensor, PIR and best of all; HA and CarPlay gives me a garagedoor-button in my car when our car is coming near the house🤩
Just installed the Ratgdo and it's rocksolid, super easy to get running, even supports security+ 1.0 for slightly older doors. Overall amazing product only downside was it took 4 weeks to receive from placing the order.
I just bought a new Chamberlain door opener this year because it was built in to the opener and worked with Home Assistant, like my previous MyQ hub. Spending a little more now with the ratgdo device after seeing this news last week, although I'm on the backordered list. I might look into meross though. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the update. It is truly disappointing. MyQ is the only reason I purchased a chamberlain back in the day. Thanks for the suggestions as I just purchased a board from Paul using the link you provided. Thanks for all your hard work and videos!
It isn't just about future compatibility where local control is king, Optus, a major ISP and Telco in Aus, had a massive outage last week. There were a number of news reports of people not being able to use their smart home devices due to having no internet. One was a disabled lady who couldn't physically move and was stuck with curtains and lights that she couldn't use.
Always make sure devices can work locally and preferably without the smarts i.e. keep normal light switches but put smart devices behind them so if the main controller goes down you can still operate the lights.
This mirrors exactly what Rheem did with water softeners a few months back. We eventually were able to get them working again by significantly limiting the hits to the API, they still periodically block HA. I've had the Ratgdo for a week now, works great.
I use a Shelly on my doors and love it. I first had a homemade ESP8266 setup with a relay, but the cheap board had pin failures over time.
This kind of stuff is going to hit all those people who are buying power walls etc. they're going to become expensive paperweights
When Elon relocated out of California, I knew I’d never buy another Powerwall. The ‘T’ stands for Texas now. He’s outed as just another grubby egotist.
Google has an ironic sense of humor. Literally the moment you mentioned that MyQ users were complaining about ads, google inserted an ad into the video.
I think the content creator decides where the ads are.
Glad I got out of the MyQ ecosystem early. I was already annoyed with the slow latency and the API going offline frequently, so last year I moved to entirely local garage door system using relays and reed switches. My smartified garage door has been working flawlessly since then and my old MyQ hub is sitting in a box somewhere collecting dust.
Glad to hear you had something better already
@@EverythingSmartHome My only frustration remaining is that I wish I could sell my actual Chamberlain opener motor and replace it with a friendlier brand just to stick it to them, but I can't because Chamberlain and Genie seem to be basically the only brands that exist because of their patent trolling.
Yup ..experienced it myself. Now i have a shelly and door sensor working great. Made me realize i should of done that long time ago
Had Meross on my main garage and now just got another for my other garage that was still on myQ. Got them paired to my local MQTT instance so they're fully local.
I originally used my own Pi2 with a hat to control my garage door but now use a Shelly to do the job via Home Assistant.
I use a zwave Garage door opener. I believe the exact model is discontinued but being local it still works. Had to re-solder the push controller on the wall as it now has smarts to keep you from using any button but they are so cheap they exposed their own push button and I wired into that. Sure violated warranty but probably any third party integration will.
I've successfully used Shelly devices to control garage doors. Great product, and local control out of the box. Just setup the relay to O/S/C on the door motor and happy days.
Regarding alternatives for making your existing door opener smart. My craftsman garage door opener just needed 2 contacts bridged to trigger the door to open. I think this is normal behavior on most door openers.
I used a Shelly plus 1. It has a dry contact that I wired up to my garage door. Had to set the Shelly to be in momentary switch mode. That by itself was enough to let me open and close it from home assistant. I then added a Shelly Plus Addon which accepts a bunch of sensor inputs. I used it with a magnetic reed switch to let me know if the garage door was open or shut. I then built a custom button in Home Assistant that shows it's state based on the reed switch and will toggle the dry contact when pressed.
Since there were a bunch of sensor ports open on the Addon, I also added a temp sensor inside the garage and ones for outside the garage and all of it feeds back to Home Assistant. Total cost was like less than $60
I did the same thing with the zooz relay box and soldered onto the button on the inside control interface. Since the relay box has multiple relays I also took the time to wire in the light button and the lock button so I have smart control over those as well.
@@nstg8 nice!
my craftsman has a single contact/wire pair for door opening, lights, and lock. The button board was simple and it seems like the door open button was just bridging the contacts. The light button ran the output through a smd capacitor or resistor or something. Same with the lock button, but with a different value.
I just ignored the other buttons cause I have dedicated lights and I use a physical lock to lock the door 😁
@@Kelgrin3 Like I said I only added those other 2 buttons because I had the relays to spare so I figured while I was in there I might as well.
I just use a Shelly1 for my garage door opener, works WONDERFULLY, super simple too.
I agree. I have two doors and a Shelly1 for each. Now it works reliably, works locally and, no more annoying light show when closing a door (and nobody is dead yet). Voice commands are integrated via Home Assistant and all commands are disabled when the alarm is set.
Another vote for the Shelly1. Good ol' Digiblur has a great video guide here: ua-cam.com/video/nSrm6h7r-KE/v-deo.html
Having the magnetic reed sensor to detect an open door is awesome.
Plus, with Tasmota open-source firmware running on the Shelly, it can respond to local HTTP REST requests to open and close the door. This allows a home-screen button on your phone to control the door, using the "HTTP Shortcuts" app.
I also use a Shelly1, and a open/close magnet attachted. It’s cheap, simple and never let me down.
TBH Chamberlin and integrating it into HA sucked on it's best day, I am on my 2nd Chamberlin garage door opener and while it was working better with the new unit there were still lots of issues as anyone that used it knows. I am currently waiting on my Ratgdo. While there is a backorder I will happily wait so that I won't ever need to worry about this issue again!
As an alternative local solution may I suggest literally ANY relay you can connect to your home assistant or others and any vanilla garage door opener with a button? Just open up the opener remote one wire goes on one leg of the button and one on the other, DONE. Enjoy your local garage integration solution with parts you can probably get at a local hardware store..
I'm a MyQ user just beginning to build a smart home - this will definitely lead me to replace the chamberlain garage door opener with a locally controlled product in the next year or two.
Yeah all the cloud solutions are such a pain ... everything should have a local API, but I guess that makes data harvesting harder ...
They know when you open your garage door!!!
@@RomvnlyPlays I was more speaking in general on all the IOT stuff but even that information can be great for any potential thief to know when you're not home once the company manages to leak all that information because of flawed security or someone getting social engineered.
Unfortunately, very true
I have a MyQ door controller but only use it to allow for in-garage delivery by Amazon connected to one door. Both doors are also controlled by a Tailwind controller which still integrates with HA 🙂
I have been using a custom FeatherS2 with a relay, PIR, and distance sensor to talk to HA via MQTT. Ultimate local control when it is DIY.
I added a shelly relay to open/close each of my garage doors and aqara door sensors to see if the door is open or closed. Chamberlain lost my future business when they basically told me tough shit when the DC motor of my opener went out - it was 12 months and two weeks old.
Thanks for the great video! RATGDO is an awesome local solution. I can control and see things with it on the opener that I couldn't before. I can see if the door is obstructed and I can turn off and on the remote light. Hopefully they can add even more features in the future like the state of the internal backup battery on the opener and the temperature and motion sensor of the remote button. So long MyQ! You are now blocked from my WiFi! 😉
I have 4 garage doors. 3 are MyQ. I bought a myQ hub for my Marantec, but couldn't get it to work, so I had to find a workaround. I ended up just using a Shelly relay and it works perfectly and cheaply. I believe I got the idea from Smart Home Solver. All it does is the electrical equivalent of pushing the wall switch button and reading a reed switch contact sensor. It's not any more difficult than the MyQ installation. I guess I will be converting the other three doors with the built in MyQ to use the Shelly as well.
That is why I like zigbee devices, directly connected to home assistant without a bridge. No internet directly for devices, more safe, no dependency.
My whole house is local nodered only. Mostly Tradfri+Hue+Xiaomi aqara (zigbee2mqtt), WLED+Shelly+Custom ESP32 stuff (wifi). Decided to go local only without any proprietary bridge when IKEA broke tradfri's bridge API for the second time, around 2019 (?).
I was lucky enough to buy the home bridge prior to them discontinuing it. I don’t have my doors connected to a myq account or app and I have full local control of them in home assistant. If I didn’t I would be 100% looking at the ratgdo.
MyQ has singlehandedly been the single worst integration in my Home Assistant install for years, and there is absolutely no reason it needs to be this way. Chamberlain / MyQ need to implement a local API, or maybe Matter over WiFi so we can control these devices locally.
The name of your video was all i needed to know this was about Chaimberland 😂😂 RATGDO was the way to go. Now i'm even disabling my wireless remotes at night
It's not 20,000 users. It's a couple thousand bots trying to hit their network hoping to open someone's garage door. They are literally between a rock and a hard place. There is nothing they can do to stop what they are facing.
Shelly one inside my garage door opener and some speaker wire down to a reed switch at the garage door as The Hook Up instructed. It's been flawless after I worked out my own issues.
Good job on the video, i would go even further and say don't get any hardware home automation hub's. They to as i'm sure i and many others here have been victims of can attest to, can be taken away at any time (insteon hub as an example). That's why i like home assistant so much, it can be run on a LOT of different hardware devices. Again great video, keep them coming.
My garage door openers wanted a myq attachement and app to work. Nothing a little shelly couldnt fix. Now theyre fully local.
Totally seperate but kind of echos what Lewis said. Eufy removed the face recognition from their doorbells to the home hub 3. It was on their original device and the home hub 2 but now been removed to only the £160 home hub 3.
Still prefer them over ring due to subscription
About a decade ago, before any garage doors were at all online, I just wired a Z-Wave relay to my Genie wired opener (I was using Vera in this era, now HA). I am likely the world's worst at precise soldering, but it was about 10 minutes to solder wires to the top and bottom contacts of the dimple button under the plastic shell of the opener. A very simple automation just pulses the relay for a second to toggle the door and synchronizes a helper switch to a Z-Wave tilt sensor. Easy Peasy. If I was redoing it today I'd use an ESPHome with a cheap 5V relay, but still, it has worked perfectly for many years. I emphatically agree with the point of your video. Cloud = Prison
I really enjoy your content - I have a content request/suggestion - can you create a video covering setting up two-way audio in HA - there are some solutions out there but the documentation is pretty challenging for moderate to novice video and audio streaming users. This is a important function that would allow HA truly to replace any video security solution. Right now even if you get it working, it’s buggy at best.
No worries if not - thank you for everything you do! I’ve bought several everything presence sensors and love them!
Glad I ordered my ratgdo a month ago. Just arrived today and took 10 minutes to install.
Thanks for the news. It sounds like Chamberlain is a company I don't want to do business with. In addition, this is another big reminder to use products that work locally, and you don't need the companies servers to use.
Add Shelly1 - there are numerous guidelines on how to make it a garage/gate opener. Set it in COiOT or MQTT mode, integrate easily with HASS, and then expose it to your mobile device via homekit integration and done! 15$ nice DIY project. Shelly can switch open/close ports of the motor directly or be connected to... remote. I did mine connecting two shellies to one 2-ch remote (1 controls the garage door, the other one gate). My remote is powered with a 12V battery. I used for my project 2x shellies, 1 spare 12V DC charger (supplying safe 12V power for 3 devices), 1 wired contact sensor to recognize the open/close state of the door connected to the shelly, and voila! It took me 30 minutes to set it up. It works with multiple automation, voice assistant "Si.i" and Apple car.
I have been using the Meross from the beginning. Working as prommised. Thankx for the Video.
I've implemented control and monitoring of my Chamberlin/LiftMaster garage doors using a Zooz ZEN16 and tilt sensors. My pair of garage doors were installed in 2011 and included two 829LM Garage Door Monitors. These wireless units provide a visual and audible monitor of door position. They also have a "door close" button so a door can be closed from inside the home. I soldered wires from relays on a Zooz ZEN16 to the Door Close buttons on each of the 829LMs. This kept me from having to run wires to the wall-mounted buttons in the garage, or to purchase additional garage door control hardware.
I only want to monitor door position and to automate closing them in certain scenarios. The 829LM can only close a door so they (along with the Zooz pieces I mentioned above) accomplish my goals.
829LMs are no longer available from Chamberlin but they can easily be found from many sources online. This solution is completely local, requires no subscription, and has the added security benefit of not worrying about an errant "door open" commend. I only ever want to close my doors programatically, and NEVER want to open them with any automation. An open garage door is a massive security hole in my home's perimeter.
A mqtt garage controller was the first home made device I did, been rock solid for over 2 years.
I bought a Meross/refoss opener on Amazon. I’m so much happier. I didn’t realize how bad the myq was until I switched