Finally a SILENT Garage Door Opener that locks like a SAFE! - RJ0101
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2023
- Tired of LOUD, easy to break in (coat hanger trick) garage doors? No more! Here I install the latest JACKSHAFT opener that's easier to install & the most secure you can get, all while being nearly silent. About as perfect as a garage door opener can be.
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One correction: I called the app OnQ, it is called MyQ!
Excellent! Thank you,!
This is exactly what I'm looking for...
Installed one of these in early 2019 and love it.
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We have had this side mount liftmaster on our garage door for about 7 years. It probably has a life time of use on it already as we used it to let our dog out for all those years.
I have two of these hateful things. The jackshaft only pulls the door up, it doesn't push it down. It only allows the door to 'fall' in controlled fashion. That might seem an insignificant distinction but it's important to understand because if the door is fully open (horizontal), there's not enough weight to pull the door down. You have to adjust the door so that part of the lowest section is near vertical so it can pull the rest of the door down. In my case, the door won't "fall" closed unless I adjust the limits so the door blocks about 1' from the top of my garage door opening. I need the full 10' of my opening so this doesn't work for me. As such, I have to have a plunger spring that pushes the door down until it can fall on its own which defeats the purpose of not having something on your ceiling.
Additionally, when the seasons change from summer to winter or back, all the tension settings are wrong and the door won't open or close correctly and I have to get out a ladder and re-set the tensions. We get Chinook's here so even during the winter, I have to re-set the tensions before/after.
My overhead door guy installed it despite recommending against it. Now I wish I'd listened to him. I want my garage doors to be reliable, I don't want to get out of my vehicle to manually intervene. These (Liftmaster 8500) don't meet that requirement.
Super Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your input on these. I need to do more research to see if this is the right solution for me...
Thanks for saving us the inconvenience.
Have you considered slightly angling up the rails so the garage door is never fully horizontal?
@@TheCarpenterUnion Every change affects the whole system in a different way. Changing that angle will make it harder for the motor to pull the door uphill when the door is nearing full 'up' and that will also be when there's the least tension in the spring which will mean increasing spring tension to compensate and then we're back to the same problem.
In the 3 years I've had these doors, I've learned a lot about the many different variables that affect them with this opener. I even thought maybe my overhead door guy was part of the problem so I had an old guy from a different company come out. He looked at my install and said it was done well and that this is just the nature of the beast. One option he gave me was to raise the rails up near the ceiling and add an additional panel. But the geometry of my garage means that I'd have to change my lighting to be flush with the drywall.
use threadlock on the square bolts. they tend to come loose and will just spin on the tension rod. after using threadlock had no problems.
Was wondering if this would be an issue. Thanks for the suggestion
Could you just drill a hole in the tension rod to receive the bolt so slippage would be impossible?
@rll1971 Possible, but I would worry about denting or damaging the tension rod...Thread lock will work fine. been about a year since I used and no problems.@@rll1971
Excellent suggestion and thank you. Looking at upgrading my opener to this one.
@@rll1971NO. I am a professional. And that will cause the tube to sheer.
Most of the noise from the average garage door is NOT the opener... it's the door. My Martin door and opener are very quiet. That said, this new type is the way to go!
All you have to do is disconnect the door an raise/lower it by hand and run the motor without the door attached to figure out where the most noise is coming from. Won’t be quite the same with no load but close enough.
A very good friend is an Overhead dealer for 35+ years and i help on installs at times. He has brought up points about these , but are doable.
The best pointer from him is this, typical torsion springs are a 10,000 cycle spring, about a 7 years normal life. You should ask for a 30,000 cycle ( approximately) replacement cycle spring!!! It's a 10-20 percent upcharge but it's the same labor for 3x the lifespan.
He measured my broken spring, looked on a chart to see it's replacement ( they are longer) double checked if it could fit and we installed them.
Oh, more hints, 1 turn on the torsion spring for every 1 foot of garage height. 8' high door, 8 turns as a general guide to get started!!
Do double check spring balancing, disconnect opener, open door half way and let go. It should stay there if it's correct, adjust accordingly!
Oil your torsion spring yearly. Rust makes the spring brittle and breaks prematurely!
Our current home had no garage door openers, but also finished cathedral ceilings. I discovered one of these garage door openers by accident - and am super glad I bought and installed it. As you stated: easier, quieter, and more secure!
Awesome opener, I have same one in liftmaster variant (same exact thing) for years now. Love it. Mines came w/ battery back up so when power goes out you get to open and close the garage way over ten times. Best opener i have ever owned. Everyone I recommend to ends up loving it as well. I paired mine up with super quiet rollers & polymer hinges, you literally cannot hear my door opening or closing, its scary how quiet a garage door can be. Great Video.
Had one installed 10 years ago. Awesome piece of kit. Zero issues.
Mines 22 years old and I’m holding my breath. Really enjoyed the video Chris and think I will step up my game. Always enjoy your thorough and thoughtful videos!
I’ve had a Liftmaster version since 2019. It’s been awesome! We have living space, a bedroom, above our garage and the door opens and closes whisper quiet. I would highly recommend these types of garage door openers.
We built in 16’ and had the garage door company install the Chamberlain 8500 opener, basically the same setup you have with a Jack shaft. The security lock feature has been fantastic and it’s absolutely quite raising and lowering. We had to buy the MyQ hub separately but it’s WIFi and really has been a great addition as we’ve been able to open the doors for family members who dropped by unexpectedly while we were away from home. Great tutorial, thanks for sharing. If able to spend the extra few dollars I’d highly recommend this setup.
I have had two of these for about 4 years. They are everything that he is saying. Such a game changer.
Just finished installing this unit because the previous one stopped working a few days ago. Thanks the recommendation and insightful video!
The opener has been in my grandfather's garage since 2019. Good to see it get recognition.
I bought 2 of these recently for my new shop to put up after I get the electrical finished. I didn't realize how easy they were going to be to put up so I'm not dreading that process anymore! I may put one up this weekend on one of the doors to make closing up easier.
I love these videos, straight to the point and informative, no walking around shooting selfies and annoying intro's. THANK YOU!!
I installed two of these on my new garage. Worth every penny, and I also installed the security cameras which are fantastic!
This style is common in commercial applications. Chamberlain is the "residential" unit, Lift Master is the "commercial" units. Same company. I've installed both and frankly, the differences are small if any. Both are great units!
Honestly I doubt there's any equipment or component difference between them. They're the same thing where Chamberlain is sold retail, and LiftMaster is sold wholesale to garage door installers.
I have three, 22 year old, belt drive Lift Masters in 2 properties. Love them. The only noise is from the metal rollers rattling. I wonder how long they'll last? Workhorses.
The difference on a regular opener is the motor's track, on Chamberlain (DIY) the track comes in 3 pieces, LiftMaster's track comes in 1 long piece, better/smoother on heavier doors.
Because the track is so long, you'll not see it in DIY stores.
@@VanillaIceCoffee Very interesting, thanks! The actual motor units are identical, though, right?
@@aaron74 maybe the board is different, the liftmaster has plugs for the locks, it depends of the model
I had my contractor install the Liftmaster version this opener on both my garage doors when I built my current home. One of them is lifting a 14' x 14' door on my attached RV bay. Super quiet and low maintenance. They can be connected via wifi to your smart home setup so you can control them from your phone even when you are away from home. Very handy if you need to give someone access while you are on vacation. The app even shows whether the door is opened or closed so you never have to worry about if you remembered to close the door. The electronic deadbolt makes it impossible to open the door from outside. You can also add a battery backup for use when power is out.
I've had the LiftMaster ones on both my large garage doors since 2010. They are absolutely not silent. They're much quieter than overhead garage door openers but there are still the sounds of the actual door itself opening and closing. Also, as others have pointed out, there are issues with the tension which causes the doors to pop back up often and in the 13 years I've had it I've had to replace three springs.
We just built a new house and specced one of these units. It's a game changer. So quiet and saves so much space conpared to the old school track style. Highly recommended
I got one of these 4 years ago while rebuilding our home after a house fire... I really love the quiet opening and clear overhead space... This opener really makes a lot more sense... Nice elegant solution
The other nice thing is mine came with battery backup. Looks like my model is almost the same as in he video, but in the bottom compartment has a space for the battery backup. Superhelpful if you come home during a power outage.
I installed the Wayne Dalton I-drive on my 16 foot door 20 years ago. It works the same way. Has never failed.
Love it!🥰. Installed a Chamberlain door opener last year when we closed. Belt driven and quite as a snow flake😊
I replaced the wheels on my garage with quiet poly wheels and it made it even more quieter. My system is belt vs chain and it’s just as quiet. However, i do like that this system gives you more ceiling space. If my opener ever dies, I will definitely replace it with this system.
Have had a Liftmaster ceiling mount belt-drive unit for a few years. It's dead silent and includes a battery backup. The Internet-connected features have become indispensable. Currently working on a remodel of the garage and plan to add 3 more openers from the Liftmaster / Chamberlain family. Looking forward to the jackshaft / wallmount units for my high-rise / high-clearance doors.
We replaced an old chain drive overhead opener with a new LiftMaster model like this and we're very pleased with it. Now at almost a year of use, we still love it. It operates so quietly and smooth, and the deadbolt lock has worked very well. No problems at all with it.
Once again, I'm so glad I watch your videos. I had no idea this was a thing. I want to replace my garage door, but I've hesitated because I thought I had to do the whole thing with the springs which I heard was a PIA. this way, I can totally see me doing it myself, by just laying in new panels in the track and using this method to open/close it. Thank you!
you still need to use the springs
This makes so much more sense! Remove the transmission section and direct drive the shaft, simplicity is the hallmark of good engineering.
I upgraded 1 of our 2 doors with one of these (not a chamberlain but competitor) to accommodate a high lift garage door. These wall mounts are so much better I wish I did it to the other door at the same time.
Amazing timing. I was looking at replacing my old jack shaft (8500) with a celing version. However, i may consider just upgrading to the one you showed. It seems like a diy job.
When I was in the market for a new garage door opener, I wanted to get that type of opener until I saw the price. The price is a lot more than a regular opener. I eventually settled on the Genie screw drive opener like I had previously because it was very reliable (first one lasted 16 years).
Ha! I installed that exact model in my garage today. Sooo much quieter and so much extra free space.
Have been using these for a couple of years and mostly love them. Our single car garage opener does have some issues. Since the door isn't heavy the cable tensioning system sometimes gets less taught with temperature changes. This causes the tension safety device to think the door has hit something while closing and the door raises back up. After some tinkering around we adjusted the door to stop just before it touches the ground thereby keeping the tension cable as tight as possible. Time will tell! ALso the light we have is programmed to both doors thereby only needing on light! Bravo!
Get yourself a Genie 6170-HB. Cable tension is built into the operation of the door instead of a separate system - it adjusts lifting force every time it opens to accommodate temperature changes and all that.
you may need to adjust your spring tension because most garage doors are pretty darn heavy without any spring assist. I find that most doors are not set properly where they balance on their own if you manually raise it about half way. Most drop like a rock or roll upwards because there is too much or too little tension on the springs.
@@jayjay6117 No, in our case we set the garage door up in winter. Then in summer the door is larger, which causes the door to contact the floor just slightly and in turn slacks the cable ever so slightly as to trip the safety. So we reset the close to be just above the floor. Does not seal completely but works for us. Our 2 car door does not have this issue.
The 98022 is so nice. It’s incredibly quiet and opens and closes so much faster than my old chain drive. I installed a Ratgdo to integrate it with HomeAssistant and avoid MyQ.
This unit rocks, have had several noisy overhead units with plastic parts over the years that maybe last 5-6 years. I have had this unit for over 15 years, yes it pricey but well worth the money, and oh so quiet, and not one single problem.
Wait, you ve had this type of opener for 15 yrs??? I thought this was a new product??? Ive never seen this before ??
I''ll be installing mine tomorrow. New outlet got wired up today. This should be fun.
This has been in my Amazon cart for months, happy to see this!
Chamberlan does make the best consumer grade openers, in my opinion. I have one of their belt drive units that is still going after 24 years without missing a beat and is actually pretty quiet. If it ever dies I will probably upgrade to this model.
I have two of these, the older ones with the tensioner. I love them but I have to say the tensioner has been a pain, very sensitive. Great that they removed it from the new model. They work with my Amazon Echo and there is a phone app. Lots of customization. The best feature is the door closes automatically if you forget and you can set a schedule to close at a certain time if you turn off the auto close.
Unfortunately Chamberlain/LiftMaster has removed Alexa support from their "MyQ" ecosystem. I think the Genie Aladdin connect still works with smart devices such as Alexa and Google Home. I just moved and I'm about ready to rip out the MyQ here and move back to the Aladdin setup...
Yep, agree 100%. Have had one for about 15/20 years and love it.
I’m so happy I put this one in 3 years ago. So quiet.
That was an excellent garage door opener. It the same like a commercial ones we have at the shop. Very good.
Keep up the awesome work you do
I have a two door garage. The two jack shafts were nearly perfectly positioned to allow one opener to operate both doors. Works perfectly! A huge improvement over the old openers.
Cool, but does your setup require you to always open and close the doors together?
@@j12997967 Absolutely. One less thing to think about. Push the button, and the garage is fully accessible.
Very handy for the Tesla. When I summon it out of the garage, it looks to see if the garage is closed, opens the garage and waits for me in the driveway. It works the same no matter which slot it is parked in.
@@j12997967 I have the same question
this is awesome, perfect timing. just purchased my first house and was looking to change the old style opener to one like this, thanks!
I installed the same unit on my sons garage door. Although the unit was quiet and relatively easy to install I found the coupling from the jackshaft to the closure jam screws kept loosing causing the door to not close all the way. In the end I replaced with a ceiling mount and have had no issues. I did like the design of the unit, installation went well and performed good and i was going to pin the coupling to stop slippage. Another thought was to drill locate holes so the jam screws are locked into position.. just my two cents from Canada..
Look into using Green Hinges for your garage door as it will help seal that gap between the door and weather seals
I’ve had mine for more than 6 yrs,it has battery backup to open in a power failure,Love it! I also installed dual dead bolts.
I wondered about 2 dead bolts. No one is getting in your place unless they drive a tank through the door!
@@SilverCymbal Why was there a sharp needle bin in one of the shots?
As always, a helpful video and a great option, but what I'd love are a well-insulated version of the roll-up doors in warehouses and commercial garages, that free up the *entire* ceiling.
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I bought one of these last summer but never installed it as I had surgery and then the neighbor who was going to help me had surgery. I went to work on it last spring and found out the covered box on the wall that had power coming into it was just the low voltage lines for the sensor, so I have been postponing running power to the front wall. Guess you've inspired me to pull the wire this weekend. Thanks! Now where canI find Romex that won't break the bank? LOL
Looking at putting a lift inside my garage to make it easier to work on my cars. This will solve the problem of having the opener in the way. Perfect!
You find the coolest things! This is for sure what I’m installing when my Garage door opener dies. ❤🤘
I have been wanting to switch to this type of garage door opener for awhile now after seeing one at a house one time. I absolutely hate the old style openers, how loud they are and all the room in the middle you lose.
As an overhead door tech, stick with the rail style. These side mounted operators are great if your door has any amount of high lift but for a traditional door, stay with the rail, you WILL regret a change to this type.
I had one for years, and will be installing another on a new garage this week. They’re just so luxurious feeling, and they work great!
@@tenflat2009why will they regret it?
Everyone else in this comment section has a positive opinion about them. So what exactly is your concern with them?
I’ve had these on my garage doors for 5 years now with no problems. While they are more expensive than the common rail style opener they are soooooo quiet and provide added/automatic locking security and so easy to manage and operate either manually or via internet. They eliminate a lot of overhead clutter of guides and chains/belts. Only real downside of being able to use these is you need a minimum of 9/10” to mount opener on lift rod and a power source near each opener. 🇨🇦👍
Perhaps you should just abandon the old style opener if you hate it so much
That autumn view at the start when your garage opened was beautiful
Thank you. New Hampshire is really beautiful in the fall. Winters are not easy but the spring and fall keep us going
I had considered these when replacing the 1990's genie screw drive in my house that was original. The old screw drive was not actually that loud when greased properly. Because of the reliability I replaced them with another set of genie screw drive openers.
I love mine. I have a 4 post car lift and a height restriction. Solved both problems.
Great video, thank you. When replacing my current Genie opener which is over 28 years old, this is the type I want.
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks again for your great videos.
Tempted to use this on my new house but getting mixed reviews on this model and a lot of people are experiencing issues. Might just stick with last years RJ070 until Al the bugs are phased out. Great content and detailed review
Nice... I have a unit similar to this that was installed 20 years ago... I had two, but when one died I couldn't find a replacement so it was back to a standard garage door opener.
I've had my jackshaft since 2015. Runs great. One thing to note,you can also get a battery backup for these. Not sure if it was mentioned in the video.
So nice. By far the best one ive seen so far
These are great. I’ve had them for several years. The best.
your behind on this one, been running several of these for a few years. Enjoy your content though, keep up the good work.
I just installed the LiftMaster version of this (they're identical, as far as I can tell). It is very quiet and having the app is great. I also installed a second wireless opener switch inside my garage so I have the option to open it with the included switch (which is wired and needs to be relatively close to the motor unless you want to plumb the wire through the wall or have an exposed wire), or with the wireless switch which I placed beside the man door that leads into my house. However, when I was finalizing the installation the first time, an Amazon driver interrupted the critical final adjustment step where the motor automatically sets the closing force. I reflexively tried to stop the door so it didn't close on her head but, unlike what another commenter stated, the motor was very much forcing the door down against my momentary resistance, so much so that the spring came undone and the torsion tube bent, and then the door just fell to the ground with zero resistance (because the spring had come undone). Luckily, Amazon refunded my purchase price and I was able to order a new motor, but I did have to call out a professional to install a new torsion tube and reset the spring. So make sure no one interrupts you during those final adjustments!
I love this. My parents live on top of the garage. Our house is like 1968.. so every time I open the garage door omg the noise ... I got into so many fights with my dad .. now I manually open my left garage door because it makes less noise but is still annoying.. watching your video Sir has given me so much relief ... I will look into this and see I can install this with. So mine is the chain system and old craftsman motor. Do u have everything linked here? THank you again for this amazing video .
Had mine for years, love it!
I love watching your videos. You always teach me something new about products. Keep up the Great Work.
I love your garage, I’m jealous LOL great video something to look into when I get a new opener
I've changed openers several times, never needed to chance safety sensors, the old ones (already aimed in) worked with new opener every time.
I have 2 jackshaft openers. They're the freakin' best. Would never go back to the old style.
I have 4 of these as well as a commercial one on my big bay and like them all very much!
I've had a liftmaster 8500W since just after it came out - it's fantastic and I highly recommend it (plus it's super easy to install)! I only have one complaint, I really would like to find a way to quiet down the solenoid for the deadbolt/lock, the opener is so quiet and then "bam'! Overall though it's a 9/10.
I um.. removed the noise maker from the circuit board. Not as elegant as quieting it down, but it is very quiet now :)
@@EricBorgen There is no noise maker on the circuit board. The question is of a solenoid driving a deadbolt through the track - is there a way to slow that down or cushion it so it's not so jarring.
@@seanmcne sorry - I was reading too quickly! (I think my wall mount remote had a piezo beeper that I disabled though)
I couldn’t agree with this more. The deadbolt lock was very loud! Thankfully mine quieted itself down by breaking and I just haven’t seen the need to replace it yet 😂
Nice opener! Always looking for better alternatives to the normal devices that are, smart & more secure.
Good sales for Black Friday - I picked up two!
I ve had mine for almost 10 years and its worth the money
We built a new garage in 2019 and all three doors have this opener. Ours also has a large battery in each opener so the doors can still work when the power goes out. I also like the delay after opening. If I forget to close the door then it closes itself after a few minutes.
I learned something today, this is exactly what I want to replace my 1992 noisy opener under the bonus room for guest
JUst got one of these installed. They are great, love it!
Glad to hear that. They are pretty amazing little devices
This is what should replace every door opener on the planet. Pure genius. About time.
Love your video. I have this opener with cable tensioner. Works just as you described. Also, have an older overhead door opener that i wanted smart feature you mentioned, but didnt want to replace the opener. For $20 on amazon bought a meross msg 100. Which gives me all the smart features i wanted. Hope this info helps your viewers :)
Do you need the cable tensioner? Are they included?
Look at those pretty trees and that sky!
Excellent review - very informative! Looks like a great concept.
12 point socket on square is a “get by” that often works. I have eight point sockets, as would someone in the business. I like the jackshaft approach.
I just have a 3/8 square. So I can actually fit them properly, as I am in the business.
I like it. Much more sensible from an engineering standpoint.
Glad I stumbled onto this video. This is exactly the type of opener I need. Thanks!
Great video! Exactly what I want to install to replace my old system.
Replaced our 20 year old chain driven garage door opener with a belt driven one and it just as quiet as the one see in this video, can walk out of the garage and have to door close and don't even know it working if you didn't see the door coming down. Also the deadbolt lock on the garage door only works if you don't have other entries that could be compromised such as a entry door or window.
I had to get one of these for my home because there was a hatch in the center of the celling to the attic. My house had a manual door before the jack shaft!
100% agree. Installed one of these myself. I'll never go back to an overhead one. Plus I can open it remotely and it locks automatically when closed.
I just installed a new Genie belt driven door opener. And compared to the old gear shaft opener it's almost completely silent. You have to be in the garage to hear it at all. And with the programming of the door opener you program it to the close position, so it doesn't bang into the ground. It has a battery backup so if you lose power you still can open and close the door like normal. The Genie also has an app that notifies you when the door is opening or closing. You can also control the door from your phone so if you forgot to close it, you can still close it through the app on your phone. Keypad that attaches to the outside of the door so you can open it if you don't have a phone or the opener remote. It has a program combination that you program so nobody off the street can just open it. The part about coat hanger opening the door is only if they break into your house. This door opener was $299 from Amazon. Worth every penny and more. The instructions and the way Genie color codes the bags of hardware make assembly pretty easy.
Very cool, great explanation as always
have 2 of the same openors, I specified them when the new house/garage was being built, they are fantastic.. MyQ is great as well, Amazon can open the garage door and leave packages inside… Mine where about $800 each installed from the garage door supplier, but that was in 2018. I have 2 sets of controls for each door, a wired controler by each man door, and a wireless controller mounted next to it for the other door.. have a 18’ X 8’ high, that covers 2 garage bays, and a 10’ X 8’ high that does the 3rd space. Only wish I knew about “high clearance” tracks, could have specified those to have room for a lift 😂 also you can mention they have a DC backup battery availble for under $100, so they can be opened during a power outage (if you don’t have a generator or solar backup), they run a little slower on the battery, but thats fine
I have these in my garage and they are awesome!
Great video lots of good information. Thanks for sharing the whole process in a concise well thought out video.
Brilliant...see several installed...it will be come the only way at some point
I was expecting the unit to be much more expensive than a regular unit, but honestly with what you get the price seems pretty fair. I do like the deadbolt, having it automatic like that should be standard for all units lol
Will definitely get 2 of these for my doors… After the Matter protocol is supported.
Oh, this is nice, and it is timely! Thanks!
Nice opener. Only critique I have is that it really doesn't give you more storage space considering the tracks still run horizontally and are bracketed to the ceiling for support.
It does open up the space above the door itself, but yeah, that's not a ton...