Pros say CS2 is not ready?!
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2023
- Are you ready for CS2 though?
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Releasing a fully complete game in 2023 is unthinkable
No one actually uses common sense. They've used the beta build for "experimental" updates to see how it would work in the released and finished build. The beta is like 6 months or more old by now and people are actually braindead thinking they're cooking up the beta build as the main game lol.
I was gonna argue that isn't the case because what you said sounded ridiculous, but I can't think of an example to support that 😢
@@tigerleon10they already released the full game and you still cant spray and you still get killed behind walls and peekers adcantage is still a huege problem. Wtf are u talking about?
Wtf are you talking about. Peekers advantage is almost the same as it was in GO. The sprays are fixed by like 90%. You're probably just not even good at CS to begin with then.@@mr.someone5679
stop with the copium. they had a near perfected game in csgo, all they had to do was make some changes and change the graphics. Make 128 tick servers but in 2023 when game development has come so far, they still put out a game with the most basic and critical errors.
CS2 feels really weird. The gunfights are so inconsistent. Peekers advantage is brutal.
*yeah thats why i hated source 2 engine. in 2020s... nobody talks about 2000s and 2010s source 2 engine early stages.*
They make cs2 for silver or valulrant player
All the spraying and aim problems come from the fact that while the shot registers instantly, the sound and gun movement feedback waits for the next tick to be displayed. This is literally unplayable and makes having any type of consistency impossible. We got used to 64 tick rate and 128 on csgo because at least the animation was in sync with the shot, even if the shot waited for the next tickrate, but this is not possible in cs2 as you can have even 15ms delay between the server registering the shot and you seeing it on your screen, so basically it's a random delay that you have to compensate for and have no feedback on. Cs will die if valve keep pushing the subtickrate mechanic as there is apparently no good fix for this delayed animation problem. 24 years polishing the tickrate mechanic and they want to make one from scratch in 6 months of testing, and with the most succesful esport in the world. It would be no problem if they would let you play csgo still, but they are afraid because in 5 months 90% of the playerbase will be on csgo and not in their new game.
And the best of all is that people will tell you to get used to the delay, but it is not possible as you have no control over the delay in animations, in csgo you had the feedback of your shot being delayed but the animation in sync with it, it's not possible in cs2, so yeah good luck novas lvl 2 on faceit with 1000 hours saying the subtickrate mechanic is the best, i'm sure valve will appreciate you staying with the game for 3 months until your ticktock's rotten brain gets bored and goes to league of legends or genshin impact, while the ones that played this game 5 hours a day for 5 years will leave
@@MarioPerez-cj2sv
Nice write up. It makes sense what you said. The game is inconsistent and random, and it's why I don't have any confidence on CS2.
If I don't have confidence when I play a good game like CS GO, I play worse. And if the game doesn't work properly, well...let's just say I don't have a good K/D on CS2.
@@Liasos88 i feel you mate, you could probably kinda get used to it by changing the way you shot to only onetaps and bursts of three and accept that you can't predict how your spray works and that you can't rely on visual information to get better, but let's be real, that's not cs, that's not a competitive shooter, that's not even a real shooter
I hope they can make subtick work but it's not likely as they will probably need years of development to make it feel close to the tickrate technology and solve the thousands of problems that subtick carries, but if they force you to play cs2, nobody will be playing cs by then
Cs2 is far from ready
CS2077
@@RiderIskandar you said csgo release:2012 wrong💀
Man the way woxic described it XD
He right, the term in gaming is called inertia. It feels like you are carrying a backpack in games like Arma and Dayz.
i mean i agree with him fully, he kinda hit the nail on the head
Try running around with no sound on though and the feeling goes away, atleast for me. I think its the sound of your own footsteps creating that heavy sensation. @@highwon
It's way less broken than CSGO, when it was in its beta
apples and oranges
were also not in 2011 anymore
@@hippatothahoppa Yet every other publisher is still releasing their game in horrible states like in 2011
Yes it's not 2011 and you guys are not 10 years old anymore and should realize that you can't expect a 5 month old game on new engine to beat 10 years of updates and polishing. Give it a year and you can expect it to already be better than GO. In the meantime you can keep playing the old game while the actually helpful part of the community improves the game for you.
@@w04hi hope that u are true that we will can still play cs go tho...
I noticed peeking is absolutely broken, i just gave up on holding angles at CT. I just stay in a spot T's wont check much and pray i get 1 or 2 before I die. I feel like peekers are so fast and have so much advantage even if you somehow manage to go back to cover in the second they come through they will still kill you when you are behind wall, it's stupid
Is there a first tournament already scheduled for Cs2? How long would teams need to get to Grips with not ONLY the game but all the subtle changes in Maps?
All the spraying and aim problems come from the fact that while the shot registers instantly, the sound and gun movement feedback waits for the next tick to be displayed. This is literally unplayable and makes having any type of consistency impossible. We got used to 64 tick rate and 128 on csgo because at least the animation was in sync with the shot, even if the shot waited for the next tickrate, but this is not possible in cs2 as you can have even 15ms delay between the server registering the shot and you seeing it on your screen, so basically it's a random delay that you have to compensate for and have no feedback on. Cs will die if valve keep pushing the subtickrate mechanic as there is apparently no good fix for this delayed animation problem. 24 years polishing the tickrate mechanic and they want to make one from scratch in 6 months of testing, and with the most succesful esport in the world. It would be no problem if they would let you play csgo still, but they are afraid because in 5 months 90% of the playerbase will be on csgo and not in their new game.
And the best of all is that people will tell you to get used to the delay, but it is not possible as you have no control over the delay in animations, in csgo you had the feedback of your shot being delayed but the animation in sync with it, it's not possible in cs2, so yeah good luck novas lvl 2 on faceit with 1000 hours saying the subtickrate mechanic is the best, i'm sure valve will appreciate you staying with the game for 3 months until your ticktock's rotten brain gets bored and goes to league of legends or genshin impact, while the ones that played this game 5 hours a day for 5 years will leave
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I repost this comment of me answering a guy saying that i had no idea what i was talking about on here, just in case some of you guys wanna know where i got this info and a little bit more of an in depth explanation:
"Check maxim's "Is this why shooting feels off in CS2?" and 3kliksphillip's "CS2's Input Lag Test's Smoking Gun" videos on the topic to understand it more, and try not to tell people that they are wrong without arguments.
In csgo both the animation and the registration of the shot were delayed by a random amount of 0-15ms in 64 tickrate, as the game waited for the next tickrate to register your shot. This doesn't happen in cs2 (the registration happens instantly, but the animation waits for the next tick), that's why (i'm sure this happened to you before in cs2) you can kill somebody when at the moment that the animation happens you crosshair is completely outside of their head and viceversa. And why it feels impossible to spray as it's a mechanic completely reliant on feedback to work, and you can't compensate for a random amount of 0-15ms that takes for you to get feedback on your spray. As the amount of delay (that shouldn't even exist in the first place) between the registration and getting the feedback that you are shooting is completely random and unpredictable.
So congratulations, you gained an average of 7.5ms on 64 tickrate and an average of 3.75ms on 128 tickrate of responsiveness (in your one taps) in exchange for all the feelings and capability of improving your muscle memory that made this game so great for 20 years. I surely hope you guys enjoy this amazing technology of praying to god that your spray is almost in sync with what you see and realize what you are trying to impose in the cs playerbase. But let's be real it's not like this game mattered so much for you until 23 days ago, am i right?"
@@MarioPerez-cj2sv bars once again, Mario
@@MarioPerez-cj2sv This is honestly just fear mongering. What you are saying is true, but its not that big of a deal. Most people when they are spraying are not watching the animation of the gun firing, they are following their muscle movement, which wouldnt be affected by the animation being delayed from the registration. Its more important to ensure that when a person shoots the bullet actually goes where they were aiming, rather than a delay of up to 15ms between clicking and registration.
If you actually watched the 3kliksphilip video he says that the testing may have been flawed, but even if it was correct the issue is so minimal that it wouldn't affect your aim, and people shouldn't freak out about it. But instead youre going around saying the game is "literally unplayable".
Cs2 will replace csgo I’m pretty sure so I don’t think we’ll have access to csgo anymore. It’s being marketed as a “free upgrade.” Because it’s essentially a huge software update not a brand new game. Only being marketed as “counter-strike 2” because it’s on the new source 2 engine
Fix the sound! Worst I have every heard in a fps
The pors in cs has always said it everytime a new cs releases
well counter strikesource on release/beta was a buggy shit storm, in beta you could literally shoot the kneecaps or feet and get headshots sometimes lol. literally not joking.
💯 spot on. Hard truths but it needs to be said so it can be Addressed.
Valve does not care. They had the beta for a reason. Pros had early access. They had all the feedback they needed.
@@Sn1zzle ironically they made the game much more noob friendly and less pro friendly. The better you are, the more you are fcked with CS2. I see so many silvers and gold novas saying they hit a lot more all of a sudden with pros saying the opposite. I really dont know how the next tournaments will turn out. I bet the losing team will feel like they lost because of CS2 being bad, not because they played worse. Its much more random now.
Needs some fix, but it cant be exactly the same thing, we have to accept some changes...
hence the graphical changes and volumetric smoke but the croe gameplay should be identicl to CSGO. don't sell your golden goose till you have another one.
@@jacobdoes1928 agree, nobody asked for the shooting and movement to change. people wanted better hitreg and anticheat
Improvements yes, not downgrades. Movement, shooting and performance are a huge downgrade atm
@@emp437 wtf are you smoking, FPS in CS2 is more consistent compared to GO albeit at cost of higher hardware requirement. Shooting, HIT registration is more accurate to the point the moment you click is accurately sent to the server instead of waiting for the tick.
@@jacobdoes1928porting a game to a new engine is not a simple drag and drop it takes time to make it 100% accurate. That being said CSS wasn't 1.6, CSGO wasn't CSS or 1.6, and CS2 won't be CSGO.
You guys think it is an full release or kinda like early access or open beta?
Feels like an alpha more than anything.
@@L0RDLUK Have you ever played an game in alpha? Most of them are just unplayable when in alpha.
For me this is very close to release but there exist some minor bugs on maps and some issues with lag compensation.
Boy the peekers advantage is strong with this one.
The spray does not connect at all.....I had to resort to tapping
All you pro player at least has a stronger stance or capability to voice all those concerns directly to development or related parties. I’m tired hearing complaints that led to nothing. Please do something.
to be fair im sure a lot of these pros have some kind of "dont make a big stink about shit" clause in their contracts
I spent 30 minutes resetting my config and messing with settings and rn I feel its okayish now.not no csgo but atleast some of the weapons feel decent
*Mostly another community fan says: Next time care about Second Major Heavy Update Valve Software.*
Valve don't need someones confirmation. They force u play with new rules
CS without the pro scene will reduce it’s popularity by too much for them to ignore pros saying it’s not ready, so, better listen to them
@@Xipingu I don't think so
cs2 noob friendly
@@chaitanyamhadeshwar2261you realize how much money they make from stickers and skins related to the e-sports scene? A bad esport scene could sink cs2.
@@Xipingu you're so naive if you think the pro scene will have any bearing on the game's population
Ofc these issues has to be addressed, considering that it has just launched i'd say Valve is working on updates and patches and it would be patched soon.
I hope so . full release and still hasnt ben fixed with valve money they can do anything if they listen to community
AWP Player will be jobless in cs2. you cant hold angles, they just run and gun you in the face. Its like they spawn in front of you. You pick a smg run around corners and your enemy have no chance. feel like the movementspeed is x2
exactly, I hate that xD
things that really bugs me is that you cannot disable the enemy teams text chat, only takes 1 person to vote forfeit to force the entire team to forfeit, and the warmup is essentially non existent. By the time you buy a gun and walk 10 feet, the game is starting.
You can mute individual enemy players from the scoreboard menu
Forfeit vote cannot be called until somebody already abandons the game on your team
Lack of warmup feels awesome. People used to afk in csgo due to insanely long pointless warmups
half the time someone peeks me real quick and hides, then a whole second later I get headshot. how did I get shot from WAY behind a wall? I play with less than 10ms ping. BS
it's true. and that's why many players have left cs since the release.
is that bad?didnt try it yet. have 2000hrs on cs go.
shooting is really off, also feels like I permanently have 150 ping
cs2 is about 2 months away from really being in a ok state to release, with sprays/aiming feeling off, Anticheat being none existent, camos not being displayed as they should be, crouch speeds being different to toggle and hold, 128 tick, smokes lasting way too long and being 2x bigger than necessary, commands missing like CL_bob and lefthand, bomb explosion being way to large for some maps and doing way too much damage, deagle being the strongest weapon in the game, stickers being either way too big on some weapons, the likes of Train, cache, cobble not being here.
All the spraying and aim problems come from the fact that while the shot registers instantly, the sound and gun movement feedback waits for the next tick to be displayed. This is literally unplayable and makes having any type of consistency impossible. We got used to 64 tick rate and 128 on csgo because at least the animation was in sync with the shot, even if the shot waited for the next tickrate, but this is not possible in cs2 as you can have even 15ms delay between the server registering the shot and you seeing it on your screen, so basically it's a random delay that you have to compensate for and have no feedback on. Cs will die if valve keep pushing the subtickrate mechanic as there is apparently no good fix for this delayed animation problem. 24 years polishing the tickrate mechanic and they want to make one from scratch in 6 months of testing, and with the most succesful esport in the world. It would be no problem if they would let you play csgo still, but they are afraid because in 5 months 90% of the playerbase will be on csgo and not in their new game.
And the best of all is that people will tell you to get used to the delay, but it is not possible as you have no control over the delay in animations, in csgo you had the feedback of your shot being delayed but the animation in sync with it, it's not possible in cs2, so yeah good luck novas lvl 2 on faceit with 1000 hours saying the subtickrate mechanic is the best, i'm sure valve will appreciate you staying with the game for 3 months until your ticktock's rotten brain gets bored and goes to league of legends or genshin impact, while the ones that played this game 5 hours a day for 5 years will leave
@@MarioPerez-cj2sv you are so incredibly wrong my guy, stop spreading misinformation
@@MarioPerez-cj2sv I've read some serious bullshit through my life but this is next level. To be honest there's some truth to your words, but most of it is powered by the subconscious resistance to change. The CS community is well known for being really stubborn and against changes. To some degree that has a point *cough-cough R8 on release cough-cough*, but the rest is unjustified. The sentence :"CS will die if Valve"... dude Valve make billions out of CS, do you see them leaving the game broken and unsupported? Do you really think Valve in any way shape or form will leave things as they are and sacrifice one of their golden gooses (the other one being DotA) that makes them so much fucking money that me and you can't count to this number. Stop dickriding redit attention whores with their little "expert analysis" and look at what Valve are doing. EVERY issue gamebreaking or not is being solved withing 12 to 24 hours of its discovery which shows one thing - Valve are watching and listening and they talk through patchnotes not through empty promises. Have some faith and be a little bit more open minded.
@@Rudy97 for real, the animation and hit was NEVER in sync- and csgo´d is a term because the game was broken since release- hitreg is a nigthmare, so much more than cs2, and the amount of times i get killed by people before they even peek around the corner is ridiculous. Cs2 isnt perfect, sure it isnt- if people were expecting it to in the first place they are retarded- but it sure as shit is better than csgo already. And the "pros" dont fucking know shit anyways. What is the point in smokes that leave huge gaps every time you throw them somewhere without lining them up pixelperfect for example. There were people on reddit complaining the game is too easy now, because people can hit headshots reliably, wtf is this community? There were op rifles in the game since release and nobody touched them cause they were "cod guns"- Csgo players are and always were cunts
@@Rudy97 how about you counter the points he put forward instead of just saying "youre wrong". What he said has been an issue that many testers are already talking about on youtube and reddit. "Misinformation" My ass
Game is ways away from being ready to be fully release. Hopefully Valve doesn't choose to rush it.
The did unfortunately.
spoiler alert they did rush it never ever thought in my life that I would see a rushed valve game
Its not ready
Not even close.
I think we are agreed on that
Video game category - Dota 2 - that sums it up nicely 😀
Inspect spam is also weird!
Between 2 Frags
The bleeding effect is very important, I feel like I'm shooting at a piece of paper, i hate CS1.3 because of that
Cs2 feels terrible, the netcode is horrible, its almost unplayable with anything higher than 60 ping, the spray feels slow and inconsistent and the movement is clunky and unresponsive
CS2's 60 worse than CSGO's 120 ping
@@m.n.s.s2825yup not an improvement it’s just valve being cheap trying to make subtick a thing
why did you guys even put NAF in the video? bro said "i havnt played much" and then gave a complete nothing answer
Because naf already played csgo for 10k+ hours of course he is really know the difference both of them even he is haven't played cs2 so much,so just shut up silver 🤡
They literally said the same thing when csgo first came out
EVERYONE SAYS ITS NOT READY....
Everyone forgets the state csgo comp released in... alot of tweaks to be level with csgo but i have faith it will happen soon!
we should have thought they have learned
@@prebbag8617porting a game to a new in house engine is difficult. This has nothing to do with learning from past mistakes, this is just a fact of game development. If you compared it to any other AAA fps it is miles ahead but everyone holds CS to such a high standard that being more polished than other fps isn't enough. But it's better than never upgrading the game and leaving it on a 20 year old engine because the player base can't handle a year of polish and balancing.
Didn't feel like CS
Neither did csgo when it released, and neither did css, and neither did condition zero. Guess what, things change. And change is what kept cs relevant for over 20 years
they wanna get the attention of valorant players
only complaint i have is being matched with dogwater players on premier
Combat Master Season 1
gracias... sabia que no era solamento yo el del problema.. esta todo mal.. mas de 13 años esperando para esto!? CAMBIEN TODOS LOS MAPAS! cambien el juego xfavor..
Fix the obvious bugs, but CS2 doesn't necessarily have to match CSGO in every aspect. Spray patterns and movement don't have to match exactly.
Either make it better or make it the same. Right now everything but the graphics is worse than go
The thing is that movement and spraying in csgo were good and consistent. They are neither of those things in CS2.
Players complaining about cs2 not being cs:go. Seen that before
-dx11 do this on pc steam only!
Anyone who has played at least a single game will feel how weird CS2 feels. It is a couple years from ready at minimum. They still have so much polishing to do.
If CS2 was a car, it would still be a prototype at the Geneva Motor Show.
I have played a 100 cs2 games now
It is better than csgo in almost everyway
Only thing that sucks is the antocheat is garbage. But it was garbage in csgo as well. So not sure if it will make any difference
@@goochipoochielol you must be a silver the movement feels off the spray patterns are inconsistent because of subtickrate and valves cheapness also movement is worse when it should be like old 128 tick servers overall also performance is much worse and not even close to the level of valorant either not done
@@goochipoochiemy questions to you is:
1) How long have you played CS GO?
2) What is your rank?
3) Have you turned on your monitor?
4) Are your eyes okay? Maybe you need to see a doctor.
WOW the game in beta doesn't work WOW
well... it's out now and nothing has changed as per usual WOW
Uh.. Of course it's not ready, it's not even out of beta yet? It's gonna take some time to get it polished and perfect, but it's a fucking great starting point. So get off your asses, play the game, report bugs and things you don't like, and have them fixed. I've sent about 15 or so bugs to Valve at this point, and about 7 or 8 of those problems have been fixed already.
they need to fix D2. They can make cat on short wide as middle
@@Carbine64 no u see. so two people can peek together. and maybe have a wall like on inf on top midle so the awp can spot.
They need to make D2 great again
It's not f ready. some shots doesn't register when you fire, they need to fix the servers, the heavy movement and the spray( as naf said it's feel like valorant ) + i saw some opponents
they see you before you see them like the pick angle.
The Bewegtbildproduktion is very ansprechen and on the Punkt for the Thema
Hmm give me the game too so i can have an opinion 🤔😁
early access game, don't worry they'll probably improve it by 2025, they're just a multi billion, ehem I mean a small indie dev studio
It's the truth cs2 is not ready
Flickshooting is much easier to get headshots than csgo, way easier. You dont even need to be on point for it to register it a hs. Feels so weird.... definitely not ready xD
I don't think CS 2 is needed what we need the most right now is a working anti cheat in my opinion, personally if instead of CS 2 we've got a better working anti cheat system I would not mind not having CS 2 at all personally because it would make a big improvement in the game experience and much better matches. CS 2 is like they copied or get inspired by Valorant and it is so obvious, the brighter and colorful style, the kill counte HUD, ruining spray pattern that been a mechanic players invested a lot of time in replacing with 1 taps small burst like Valorant, etc. I hate it because if I want to play Valorant I would just install and play it, the reason I'm playing CS is because I want to play CS not Valorant, CS 2 is not even released yet to the public yet there are already cheaters roaming around not banned, personally, if what Valve copied or get inspired is the Valorant anti cheat and then make a better one that would be great, imagine having VAC 2 than CS 2, Valve just want us to get demolished by cheaters in high res more colorful hd graphics, can't wait CS 2 yeah very nice.
agree with evrerything!👌 I hope we will can still play faceit cs go until hopefully they make this game feel like cs, not Val, otherwise...
they are learning from the cheats and cheaters until the game comes out. so clueless.
yeah I've heard that line from years ago already, valve not banning cheaters right away to gather more info about the cheats and so now it's CS 2 already, if it's gonna take them 20 years to learn more from one single cheater before they try to create countermeasure, that's great, can't wait to play the game in 2093 after they ban that single person using cheats.
The bright colors and kill counters are just a nice touch and I don't see anything wrong with that as it doesn't change any mechanics or fundamentals in the game. They need to fix issues with spray and the sub tick system. It's broken at this moment
i think its perfectly fine that they're releasing it like this. the sooner they release it the more they can let everyone play the game, figure out bugs and tweaks before the major early next year
u cant be serious, like the major is the only tourney that matters
@@prebbag8617 that can be easily solved, just keep csgo in tournments till next major, but release cs2 now..
@prebbag8617 that's not the point. I'm just saying that since they scheduled the major to be in March it only makes sense that they try to polish out the game. The major is a big thing for the community and makes people look forward to it.
If they manage to make the game playable by the end of 2024, we'll be very lucky. No shot they do it in time for the March major.
@@L0RDLUKyeah knowing valve it will take them 2+ year to fix anything. Rip CS
And still isn't.
U cant say cs 2 movements is less smooth thats bs the rest is true.
Now make css 2
Last guy's take was completely irrelevant hahahah why is he in the video? "Uhm... I like CS2, because I hate the old brick wall designs and the new brick walls so shiny. CS2 best game ever."
it's aweful right now.
CS2 feels inconsistent as shit
I dont think casual players nor devs should listen too much to high level players since they re all about consistency if anything changes it will make then angry . However they should still have a big say about certain things like gun balancing , map layout changes and server improvements. Other than that i dont see how catering to pro players would make the avg players experience better .
Game's not ready. It's pretty shitty rn...
Pros say CS2 is not ready yet. Okay are they CS2 Pros already ? i didnt knew about that... or is it more like CSGO Pros toughts about CS2 ? if Valve changed the rules for tournaments 2025 like they sayed 90% all of ur "PROS" from csgo are history. becouse it will not be possible to buy ur team in with connection or money at the big tournaments. only like 10% of all actually "PROS" from csgo will build the top players 2025 in cs2. it doesnt matter what they think if the game is ready or not becouse they kinda wont be a part of it.
they should delay the game a year
Of course flappy , valulrant player
if any if you haven't tried cs2 faceit, do it! I am not necessarily a big faceit fan, but It feels smooth, and things happen more on time. I was comparing cs2 and csgo and notice that my cross hair movement is delayed, but somehow cs2 faceit fixes this. Not a lot of people playing it rn because you need 100 cs2 matches, but it is 100% worrh it.
Ultimate example of placebo
The only difference on faceit is the servers for the rest it's the exact same broo
It's literally the exact same dude Valve locked the servers.
it feel better @@aboveaura4817
@@aboveaura4817no faceit servers are on 128tick (hz) while cs2 normal is still at 64tick (hz)
Is it that bad or do pros just don’t like it cause it’s different and they are not as good but I wonder
*Simple: GARBAGE! why valve wasted so much times with CS2? Next time waste to times with TF2 in 6 Years for No Major Updates... that Summer update my dream since Spring-June 2018. 5 Years!*
Even Valorant is sprayable, I can't spary it at all in CS2
It sucks
wanna win pistol round buy cz or five seven and treat it like tec 9 in 2012
CS community just refuses to accept change. They just want to play a relic from the soviet era on their $5000 computer on 800x600. Like seriously grow up.
Because it’s not ready at all.
spraying feels so wrong/bad.
The spray is worse than Valorant, I practiced sprays heavily in CSGO, the second I play CS2 my sprays started whiffing, I turn "follow recoil" ON, did the spray, even with muscle memory + visual compensation from the follow recoil crosshair I see a lot of bullets going outside the zone I want to hit. I legit just booted up Valorant, I compensate the recoil visually and end up with a tighter spray
Cs2 is ready maybe 12 months from now. Csgo feels sooooo much better than 2
Cs2 spraying needs to be fixed bhops sucks servers suck the games gps feels awful with a 5800x3d and 3070ti ancient and Anubis under 200fps it needs another 6 months
Instead of subtick which is the main reason this game feels awful valve should stop being so cheap and invest in 128 tick servers like valorant has done
*yeah thats why i hated source 2 engine. in 2020s... nobody talks about 2000s and 2010s source 2 engine early stages.*
a lot of people crying of a beta xD it's really awesome.. because it's a beta the problems will be fixed, it's the objective of this... subticks it's really OK, the problem is the hitboxes are really broken and the sprays are a lot different from cs go... please tóxic players any pro is crying of subticks...you have to train more...simply
This dumb excuse you're using is irrelevant nów.
200kg backpack.. Right.. Like anyone does that.. 😂 Kak analogies. Let them speak natively with captions
pffff
Csgo feels more like a skill game. 2 feels random. People die after they get behind a wall. Molly looks stupid. Maps feel too small and cramped. A lot of blinking lights from guns and granades. You dont feel if you hit someone when you shoot. I stick to csgo for now
everyone complaining that u cant spray and can only 1tap / burst. i remember back in the day 1 tapping kids with an ak or deagle across Long A from t side. like. this shit was always good to do, you morons just held left click.. im certain you can still spray up close lmao as it would just be stupid to 1 tap or burst sum1 right in front of ur face. if your spraying really long range ur doing it wrong anyway js this has always been a very big strategy and way to use the guns especially ak and deagle for 1 taps, and m4 to burst.. aka needs more than 1 headshot to kill anyway.... tf game u guys been playing ? only CSGO? never played source or 1.6? its blatantly obvious to me.. lmao you think csgo was all counter strike ever was.. crazy! every time 1.6->cz->source->csgo EVERYTHING CHANGED, guns, spray patterns etc.. damn zoomers. this aint nothing we havent seen before. CS2 HYPE
its just a game lol
Absolutely not ready. the game is terrible. Pushing a perfect game like csgo out of the way so you can rush out the release of this un
finished garbage is just terrible.
Delete old competitive, keep premier, force everyone to play the maps.
What a travesty
Who cares what pros think, lol?
cancel cs2!!!!!!!!!!!!! bring back csgo
The engine is really shit, spraying feels weird and it feels inconsistent, there are also a kill delay when your bullet hits the enemy, csgo is way better
People overexaggerate cs2's problems. Its not unplayable, it just feels slightly different, which will throw off your aim.
Silver 😮💨
@@user-wj4yv7bx8b we didnt ask about your rank, man
Level 2
I respect your opinion you are enjoying the game but let other people have different opinion. It's fine as long we aren't shoving each other
Spraying works like a charm, my spray control is way better since it gives me flashbacks from cs1.5/cs1.6, in csgo it felt like dogshit.
these might be pro's. but after 24 years of CS the only thing they gotta fix is community servers and tweak some things here and there.
CS2 feels so Bad.
so you mean spraying is realistic in the sense that youd never just spray an entire clip in real life. You'd hit absolutely nothing. I'd more say spraying is fixed and it was always broken. Taps and small crouched bursts still work fine if not better.
I kinda agree man I said that they nerfed the AK for a reason. For f'ing sake people are crying about spraying but in real life you can't spray 30 out the ak, unless you are very strong and well trained...but these characters we play are so...
They just need to tweak the way they tweaked CSGO when it was released and it will be great
Idk a lot of skill goes into mastering Ak spray pattern and actually using it to ur advantage in comp. Imo it's a pro mechanic that sets apart good and rly good players, and now that that's gone no need to prac it and just go around and tap which still makes ak the most op automatic gun just with less game depth
@@michalkopij7356in real life spraying an al is very easy most ar’s even full auto have very little recoil even at 100 meters people who say “realistic” recoil have never shot a gun
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Huh?
get out of here^^
go ad play val who plays cs lmao