But ... where would that _end_? You'd need to know about the machine that made the machine that made the machine that made the machine that made the...
@@unlokia humans make simple tools, tools are used to make more advanced tools, thise advanced tools make large machines, and those large machines make stuff like this.
Holy crap. What explosion happened in that factory! Everything is orange. It's in the fan, on the machines way before the sprayer. What happened here!?
So glad they use biodegradable paint in a thin film covering there petroleum sauces they throw around and manufacture at the hundreds of thousands. Thinking of the environment. 🙏🙏
You two morons do know hydrocarbons are a natural substance found in nature. Just like diamonds are a hydrocarbon. It is biodegradable just like millions of other petroleum bi-products.
@@oilfieldsatdiver8425 I feel much better about the ounce and an 1/8 of nature based lead I spread each time I miss a "blue rock". I also had a feral hog problem until those fuckers ate the hydrocarbon cookies that got away. Some "natural substances found in nature" (love that line) include things that biodegrade at rates/ units called half-lives. I think it was named half life because so many middle aged radio-activists committed suicide, maybe because of the boils, lesions, and other physical deformations and resulting depression. Next on how its made, morons.
You do realize that petroleum is a natural product right??? It come out of the earth as "crude oil" so little pieces of it laying around from a clay pigeon is not harmful to the environment at all. Please think through things before commenting.
They could be wet or there are some really bad shots. We had that problem at our club found out that rainwater got into our storage shed and a bunch of boxes got wet
only some aren't there are some that are basically fired clay bricks. notice this is a french factory and it may be different else where. the ones made in Georgia are like this.
Before the 2004 Olympics, during a test event we were using the clay targets for ashtrays (I was still smoking). Some of the athletes were smoking as well
calcium carbonate is dissolved by acidic rainwater so i can see how it is biodegradable if that is the main component, they said the pitch is just the binder however calcium carbonate isn't talc. calcium carbonate is what marble and limestone is made of
That usually isn’t an issue as long as crap doesn’t clog the machinery or affect a persons breathing. My dad prints bank statements which produces a similar problem. There is usually toner and fine paper shaving everywhere. Not a place where someone with lung conditions or immunosuppressed patients want to be though.
@@MrTNBassmaster They do clean the production floor at least once a week, but that is relative, obviously. As for my dad, the production floor is usually the least of his concerns. He's the owner, so all the pressures that come with running and owning a big ass business are the source of his woes.
The video states that the clay targets are composed of a mixture of pitch and calcium carbonate, or talc. But, talc is actually hydrated magnesium silicate. It has no calcium in it.
I really didn't think that they used petroleum for these seems like it is unnecessary since they shatter all over the ground and that you could probably create them from more environmentally friendly materias
Do you remember the BP oil spill and the deveststion it had on the gulf coast? Oil can take a long time to break down by bacteria. And by that time it will have run off into streams and waterways.
@@znk753 I think that this specific fraction of petroleum has a bit lower average molecular mass than the fraction that goes into asphalt. I don't really know, I'm just judging by appearance.
The use of petroleum pitch is almost biblical. It was collected and used by early man to help preserve and waterproof wooden boats. So it was a highly sort after trade good. There is a lot of petroleum pitch in the environment. One bonus being a petroleum based product it will burn when the next fire goes through or break down in natural UV. Mother nature has been removing this substance from the environment through natural means for eons.
They are also biodegradable believe it or not. Our school has a trap team and going out on the range you can find old targets in various stages of breaking down.
@@SwishSwoshSwhoop I am talking about the physical contact when they are transported or loaded to throwing device. Not while they are getting shattered.
@@aguven you do realize that asbestos is a naturally occurring substance and that no mater how hard you try you will be and have already been exposed to it.
Me: so these are made of pitch Joe: yes Me: and they are targets right Joe: yes Me: So the should be called pitch targets Joe: Clay Pigeon take it or leave it
@@thermophile2106 And considering that at skeet and trap ranges, they will launch tens of thousands of these each year, the pieces accumulate and leach contaminants into the water table.
@Austin Slayton If you press CRTL + Shift + J, then type document.getElementsByTagName("video")[0].playbackRate = x into the console, with x being the preferred playback speed, you can!
Apparently the materials used have very little effect on the environment. The comment about the paint probably comes from paints usually being toxic and made to last. Im not an expert by any means, but from what i understand the biodegradable options are either more dangers (larger shards on impact meaning they could hit someone and cause injuries) or less reliable (they're too fragile and break before being launched). Clay pigeons are used a lot in wide open fields that still have plenty of stuff growing and critters around and that probably won't change
if you self modify them by using different colors of chalk line chalk in the top depression and spray glue it makes a cloud too when hit..many UA-cam videos on it
@@tylergordon696 Except that it comes from a couple thousands of feet underneath the surface. Radioactive materials also come from the ground and they aren't good for you, lava too for that matter. Just because it is natural doesn't mean that it is not bad.
We make fire alarms, and I wonder the same thing. I know there are laws that say they must be replaced after a fire and every 10 years, but the scale on what we produce these is huge.
Trap shooting is very popular and every time you shoot, you launch one of these. I can easily go through a box in like 15 minutes of shooting, taking in account the time to reload. Plus these things are single use. They definitely have high demand.
This is why I love this show. So many things that aren’t everyday use, therefore I wouldn’t really think of them but they have such massive and complex production processes. Have fun with your shooting guys 😊
' Even though the molds are still hot they remain soft and pliable. As the targets continue to cool and harden..........' Is this making any sense to anyone?
It’s the “even though” like of course they are still pliable while hot. I think it may have been the case that they were pointing out the obvious and the wrong words were used leading to confusion
It is a compression molding process. The upper piston applies the pressure to the paste/clay down in the mold. Just like a cake getting its form by the mold.
@Science Channel Oooh I see you are allowing us UK people to view THIS video.. Yet you can't take 2 minutes to tell me why you blocked your other video's. I have tried to reach out to you via twitter a few times.
Calcium carbonate is not talc. Talc is a magnesium silicate clay mineral, with the chemical formula of Mg3Si4O10(OH)2, while calcium carbonate (limestone) is CaCO3.
Nearly 90% of road materials in the US are recycled and made into new roads. Sure. Still an oil product, but it has a longer more useful lifespan compared to these disks which get shattered all over the ground.
This is a good point, which is why we should develop sustainable alternatives to asphalt and concrete. Or wait until flying cars become mainstream so we won't need roads.
What we actually need is how the machines that make all these thing are made
Humans are the machines that made these machines. Go watch porn, if you wanna know how they where made.
But ... where would that _end_? You'd need to know about the machine that made the machine that made the machine that made the machine that made the...
Germany, essentially
Most of these machines are one off models machined by humans and assembled. This is why they are typically quite expensive.
@@unlokia humans make simple tools, tools are used to make more advanced tools, thise advanced tools make large machines, and those large machines make stuff like this.
See how this generation is missing great tv shows like this
Also known as clay pigeons , these targets aren’t actually made of pigeons.
Nor are pigeons made of clay 😀
PS: I hope your name is Ian... then I could call you _"Kardash Ian"_ 😁
I was hoping he would say that
Nor is babyoil made of babies.
It’s more exciting using real pigeons lol
Robert Aus
I tried that but they kept jamming the throwers.
"A sprayer coats the factory in orange."
Holy crap. What explosion happened in that factory! Everything is orange. It's in the fan, on the machines way before the sprayer. What happened here!?
Underrated comment
Donald trump once did a factory tour...that stuff does not come off 🤣
Talc is not Calcium Carbonate. Talc is a clay mineral composed of hydrated magnesium silicate with the chemical formula Mg3Si4O10(OH)2
jimW133 woah there smart guy
Neeeeerrrrrrd!!! (in Homer Simpson's voice)
Clay Pigeons is not a pidgeon. Clay pigeon is a talk and petroleum based inverted disc, not actually a pigeon.
Move out of your parents basement!
r/iamverysmart
The used colour pigment is bio degradable - the actual target made of talc and distilled crude oil is not. Got it!
*YES .... NOT TO BELIEVE "WHAT PIGS THE HUMANS ARE" ..*
They break down
@@nickkerr5714 They don't
Exactly my thought. You’re spraying petroleum all over when these things shatter but the two grams of paint are biodegradable? Congratulations lol
Crude oil is literally biodegraded plant and animal matter...
All I want to see now is “How it’s made: How it’s made”
Okay but how it’s made how: it’s made: how it’s actually made
It would be like recording a tv that is streaming your phone
Yeah
I imagine it to be like a guy in a room tells his friend “how do you think a computer is made”
i've suggested that one for years.
I love watching things get made, it's so fascinating!!
It's been a while since I've shot some skeet. Pretty fun honestly. In my youth I was fairly decent at it. I should do it again some time.
Can't wait to see how it's actually made.
what do u mean
@@redbean9410 oh boy you're missing so much of youtube's actual science side.
@@tio5012 i dont understand
I want to see how how it's made is made.
this search huggbees on youtube.
all the orange dust, you know the employees have bright orange boogers!!
baby gzuz
EEWWWW!!!🤢
I hope they wear a mask.
So glad they use biodegradable paint in a thin film covering there petroleum sauces they throw around and manufacture at the hundreds of thousands. Thinking of the environment. 🙏🙏
I was thinking the same thing.
You two morons do know hydrocarbons are a natural substance found in nature. Just like diamonds are a hydrocarbon. It is biodegradable just like millions of other petroleum bi-products.
@@oilfieldsatdiver8425 I feel much better about the ounce and an 1/8 of nature based lead I spread each time I miss a "blue rock". I also had a feral hog problem until those fuckers ate the hydrocarbon cookies that got away. Some "natural substances found in nature" (love that line) include things that biodegrade at rates/ units called half-lives. I think it was named half life because so many middle aged radio-activists committed suicide, maybe because of the boils, lesions, and other physical deformations and resulting depression. Next on how its made, morons.
You do realize that petroleum is a natural product right??? It come out of the earth as "crude oil" so little pieces of it laying around from a clay pigeon is not harmful to the environment at all. Please think through things before commenting.
After they sit outside for several months of the sun they get brittle into kind of crumble into dust
No Pigeons were harmed in the manufacturing of this product.
millions of pigeons were saved by the making of this product!
Hi, Scott!
All the cool people are named Scott.
Never knew I wanted to know this. Now I want to see the machine made that cleans up all the broken pieces out in the field
Vince Black it’s called a lawn mower lol
You mean a screen plant? I own one. Its ridiculous
I've blasted I don't know how many thousands of these things and never realized how complex the manufacturing process is.
Or cared about the inviroment
@@chrismechanic2000 Is that you, Greta?
I believe the ones my club uses are made out of Kryptonite as they don't seem to break...
They could be wet or there are some really bad shots. We had that problem at our club found out that rainwater got into our storage shed and a bunch of boxes got wet
Or you missed
That's cause your a bad shot lol
Must be diamond fused. Don’t even break when they land. It’s crazy
So- no one noticed the solid steel ones, then..
Amazing how much work goes into something we are going to BLAST TO SMITHERINES😂🤣 Great how its made video👊
Smithereens, but yes.
Seems mostly automated. Didn't look like that much actual work.
Good ole nostalgia, used to watch this show when I was 4, I’m 20 now.
It isn’t made from clay nor is it pigeon. Talk about false advertising.
Clickbait before clickbait was even a thing!
only some aren't there are some that are basically fired clay bricks. notice this is a french factory and it may be different else where. the ones made in Georgia are like this.
Before the 2004 Olympics, during a test event we were using the clay targets for ashtrays (I was still smoking). Some of the athletes were smoking as well
I'm glad you quit smoking.
calcium carbonate is dissolved by acidic rainwater so i can see how it is biodegradable if that is the main component, they said the pitch is just the binder however calcium carbonate isn't talc. calcium carbonate is what marble and limestone is made of
That was the paint
Yup. Talc is a silicate, CaCO3 is limestone. Good catch
Coming up next on, "Factories That Are Never Cleaned" ....
That usually isn’t an issue as long as crap doesn’t clog the machinery or affect a persons breathing.
My dad prints bank statements which produces a similar problem. There is usually toner and fine paper shaving everywhere.
Not a place where someone with lung conditions or immunosuppressed patients want to be though.
@@犬の大将 hope you're dad wears a good mask .
@@MrTNBassmaster They do clean the production floor at least once a week, but that is relative, obviously. As for my dad, the production floor is usually the least of his concerns. He's the owner, so all the pressures that come with running and owning a big ass business are the source of his woes.
Its not a food factory so if it aint broke dont fix it and shut down production.
Ethan Fairweather Build up of fine paper particulate poses a major fire hazard & isn’t great for your health either.
Shooting moving targets is the best.
Great vid.
The video states that the clay targets are composed of a mixture of pitch and calcium carbonate, or talc. But, talc is actually hydrated magnesium silicate. It has no calcium in it.
It's the Science Channel. Their programs have plenty of factual errors.
I was going to make this very point, but you beat me to it.
Yes, calcium carbonate & talc are two different minerals 👍
Nobody cares
...about @@markasstwain's opinion.
You can hear how the narrators voice has changed over the years
Either that or all those cheesy puns have finally caught up to him :P
@NinjaRider777R this is their page tho
It sounds like he (narrator) is congested
@NinjaRider777R which plays on science channel
The video is slowed down by like .2x speed so he sounds slower and deeper to avoid copyright probably
This is the stuff I watch at 2 in the morning
I always love how its made
Shooting clays is serious some of the most fun I've ever had.
I really didn't think that they used petroleum for these seems like it is unnecessary since they shatter all over the ground and that you could probably create them from more environmentally friendly materias
Do you remember the BP oil spill and the deveststion it had on the gulf coast? Oil can take a long time to break down by bacteria. And by that time it will have run off into streams and waterways.
It's almost the same stuff that we use for asphalt, it's not going anywhere.
@@znk753
What's wrong bud?
@Silent Tacos Petroleum is not biodegradable, which means it will be there for a really long time
@@znk753
I think that this specific fraction of petroleum has a bit lower average molecular mass than the fraction that goes into asphalt. I don't really know, I'm just judging by appearance.
The background music along with the look of the factory gives the whole thing Portal 2 vibes for me
The use of petroleum pitch is almost biblical. It was collected and used by early man to help preserve and waterproof wooden boats. So it was a highly sort after trade good. There is a lot of petroleum pitch in the environment. One bonus being a petroleum based product it will burn when the next fire goes through or break down in natural UV. Mother nature has been removing this substance from the environment through natural means for eons.
"The paint is bio-degradable..." but the target is made of congealed petroleum oil. :D
I know right? 🤦♂️
They are also biodegradable believe it or not. Our school has a trap team and going out on the range you can find old targets in various stages of breaking down.
It's basically made of asphalt. Yeah it doesn't really biodegrade, but it also doesn't really cause any real harm to environment.
But.. petroleum is natural...
Its only when you burn it it becomes bad. Or deposit it in large quantities (oil spills)
@@lowryder3209 our oceans full of petroleum based plastics will argue against that.
That would explain why clay pigeon targets don't make good ashtrays
2:14 is NOT a rinsing machine
I’ve shot so many of those.... I can tell the difference in what the pigeon is made of just by how it reacts when I hit it.
i break a lot of these, not so much on a windy day though - lol. i know the post is old but i like it.
Do targets "contain" a width of 4 inches? Or do they possibly "have" a width of 4 inches?
Either is correct. If you're measuring the width within a clay target (edge to edge), it "contains" a width of four inches.
This is some of the best background music I've ever heard.
That's because it is actually in the background ;)
To many videos have the music way to loud while talking.
Plumbus. How they do it?
You start with an ordinary grumbo and a whole lot of schleem.
Did you watch the video about plumbus x in UA-cam. Comment below it is just hilarious. There is an unboxing video too I think.
I love watching these videos.
👍
When did talc become calcium carbonate? It used to be magnesium silicate.
and talc is carcinogenic
@@aguven it's not talc, it's the asbestos that may be found in the talc
@@balorth That is true :) nevertheless, not a wise idea to use in such purposes
@@SwishSwoshSwhoop I am talking about the physical contact when they are transported or loaded to throwing device. Not while they are getting shattered.
@@aguven you do realize that asbestos is a naturally occurring substance and that no mater how hard you try you will be and have already been exposed to it.
If I may correct a small mistake - talc isn't actually calcium carbonate. It's magnesium silicate. Completely different chemical.
May i correct you ? Its a mineral and not a chemical 😀
Me: so these are made of pitch
Joe: yes
Me: and they are targets right
Joe: yes
Me: So the should be called pitch targets
Joe: Clay Pigeon take it or leave it
That's because you have an awful...
Sales Pitch.
That's because before clay pigeons, they used living meat pigeons
Actually, I think the name is because they'd shoot pigeons for practice. These aren't pigeons, but it's what they're made of.
... thanks for upload, I needed that
There has to be more environmentally friendly materials that they could use other than pitch. Why not use some form of lightweight clay?
But don't worry! The paint is biodegradable!
Patrolium products are cheap. That’s the reason.
🤔🙄🙄🙄
@@thermophile2106 And considering that at skeet and trap ranges, they will launch tens of thousands of these each year, the pieces accumulate and leach contaminants into the water table.
1:48 why did they blur the plate on the truck bur not on the wall
Very interesting, thanks.
I would hate to be in charge of maintenance on that line, I speak from experience of aggressive production lines.
Fascinating!!!
All without using the word gun. Very cunning lol
Would have been better with the word gun.
I used to make these back in the 80's.They never heated the cold mix stored in the silo's.
Switch the speed to 1.25 to get his original voice
Nah it's okay but thanks n
unlokia Awh yee fam here always
@Austin Slayton If you press CRTL + Shift + J, then type
document.getElementsByTagName("video")[0].playbackRate = x
into the console, with x being the preferred playback speed, you can!
Playing it at .50 is much better haha
Synchron damn this dude went matrix on me
Watch this in .5 speed, you won't regret it
Blazed Brooks Moore is good at his job
And all this time I thought they were made out if pigeons and clay!! 🤔
Can’t see how they would fly with no pigeons in the mix.
"Gets" made of "tar" :-)
You need to change gun shops 🤣
That IS a tremendous amount of energy used for people to indulge in a hobby....
Wait until you hear about how much energy is used and pollution is created by private jets and/or cruise liners.
Apparently the materials used have very little effect on the environment. The comment about the paint probably comes from paints usually being toxic and made to last. Im not an expert by any means, but from what i understand the biodegradable options are either more dangers (larger shards on impact meaning they could hit someone and cause injuries) or less reliable (they're too fragile and break before being launched). Clay pigeons are used a lot in wide open fields that still have plenty of stuff growing and critters around and that probably won't change
I don't know about the paint but the clay does break down over time.
Ah yes, the Supreme voice of How It's Made.
Makes the target out of petroleum. Boasts about biodegradable pigments SMH!
Unfortunately, there might be no substance that can be a better alternative than petroleum.
@@circle4602 highly doubtful!
haha yeah counterintuitive you would think
@@brookekathryn1980 What's your suggestion for an alternate material?
@@grhinson I'll consult the wife as she is a chemist! I'll let you know shortly!
Me: cant shoot
UA-cam: clay pigeons being made, wanna watch?
Me: YES
Ah yes UA-cam algorithm has brought us together once again
This explains the mysterious bent old clay targets I've seen laying in the forest.
They weren't free to be their true selves so they ran away to live in the Forrest 🤣
Fun fact: For the first Olympics of the New Age, in the early 1900s, they used real pigeons.
And the report called this--the only Olympic event to kill animals--quote, "very aristocratic."
if you self modify them by using different colors of chalk line chalk in the top depression and spray glue it makes a cloud too when hit..many UA-cam videos on it
I would like to have seen the original machine make them.
“the mixer combined the ingredients together” no way! what?! that’s incredible!
Nice that the pigment is biodegradable. Too bad it's applied over a toxic petroleum based "clay".
Last time I checked every thing came from the ground. Why is it toxic? It's a natural product
The smallest amount of oil can contaminate thousands of gallons of water
@@tylergordon696 Except that it comes from a couple thousands of feet underneath the surface. Radioactive materials also come from the ground and they aren't good for you, lava too for that matter. Just because it is natural doesn't mean that it is not bad.
@@yourdrummer2034 it's is not oil. It is petroleum based. Different
It's basically the same as asphalt.
From where can i get this machinery, plz somebody guide me
All that automation...yet they add the water with a bucket. Good vid.
2:56 im surprised thsi is hydraulic instead of a cam arm attached to a spinning me
I want the narrator to do a sleep series like Jeff bridges did 😫😫😫😫
No actual pigeons were harmed in the shooting of this video.
Prior to clay pigeons, shotgunners shot at glass balls that were often times filled with bird feathers.
That sounds expensive.
Maybe we should start using empty beer bottles as flying targets instead of these petroleum things.
@@twestgard2 If you develop a thrower for the bottles you may become wealthy! The glass could be recovered when they recover the shot from the ranges
@@37yearsofanythingisenough39 The thrower is Daryl and he sports a mullet.
They also used live pigeons…..hence the name clay pigeons.
This episode has some funky vibes
White Flyer makes a biodegradable, "pigeon", and they're made in the USA. Get them at WalMart cheap.
Un poco de limpieza le hace falta a esa fábrica.
*_The more you know_*
That "Technitian" that transfers the talc, is what i would call a truck driver.
Inflation is rampant in the "titles" department.
How the heck is there enough demand for these to warrant such a massive production setup lol this is gonna keep me up at night
We make fire alarms, and I wonder the same thing. I know there are laws that say they must be replaced after a fire and every 10 years, but the scale on what we produce these is huge.
Trap shooting is very popular and every time you shoot, you launch one of these. I can easily go through a box in like 15 minutes of shooting, taking in account the time to reload. Plus these things are single use. They definitely have high demand.
K1ish I shoot a ton of sporting clays and skeet, and you are 100% correct. We burn through so many targets so fast.
A box of 100 is $8 and 2 people shooting go through them in about 20 minutes
This is why I love this show. So many things that aren’t everyday use, therefore I wouldn’t really think of them but they have such massive and complex production processes. Have fun with your shooting guys 😊
Magnifico!!!!
*Factoid: Scientists decided to color the clay pigeon orange not because it's easier to see but rather because they hate the color orange.* 😜👍
Love shooting skeet.
Not actually made of clay... But instead real pigeons
Why not use seagulls?
Do they degrade over time or they get cleaned up?
They degrade over time. Takes about a year, but they crumble to dust.
Hence the term "Pitch Black"
0:25 “Commonly referred to as ‘clay pigeons,’ these targets are not actually made of clay, though, they **are** pigeons.”
' Even though the molds are still hot they remain soft and pliable. As the targets continue to cool and harden..........'
Is this making any sense to anyone?
Are you being sarcastic? That makes absolutely perfect sense.
@@TheHuesSciTech It makes perfect sense that the targets would be soft and pliable while still hot. I don't understand the 'even though' part
@@MrAustinpen Oh wow, I didn't notice that! Mb.
It’s the “even though” like of course they are still pliable while hot. I think it may have been the case that they were pointing out the obvious and the wrong words were used leading to confusion
That paint station was a total wreck of a mess!
But how they are ACTUALLY made?
It is a compression molding process. The upper piston applies the pressure to the paste/clay down in the mold. Just like a cake getting its form by the mold.
Matthias Kritter u don’t get the joke
@@b-dawginfinity7910 Okay, I see. I took it serious.
someone explain the joke
Pilling a stack or stacking a pile?
Somebody turn the key on the guy's back a few times before he falls asleep in to the machinery.
Huh... I learnded something today! :O
These clay gideons are made of real pigeons
I heard that they fly better...
Ah yes, clay pigeons. Neither clay, nor pigeons.
@Science Channel Oooh I see you are allowing us UK people to view THIS video.. Yet you can't take 2 minutes to tell me why you blocked your other video's. I have tried to reach out to you via twitter a few times.
Use a VPN and get round all geo-fencing.
Calcium carbonate is not talc. Talc is a magnesium silicate clay mineral, with the chemical formula of Mg3Si4O10(OH)2, while calcium carbonate (limestone) is CaCO3.
for me when i speed up to 1.25x speed it's normal speed. maybe because the voice is just slow.
fROM WHERE I CAN GET THIS MACHINE FOR HOMEMADE RECIPE OF CLAYS?
Lots of concern about the environment. Never mind alll our asphalt roads everywhere ( which btw are an oil product)
Nearly 90% of road materials in the US are recycled and made into new roads. Sure. Still an oil product, but it has a longer more useful lifespan compared to these disks which get shattered all over the ground.
Some of it is metal slag containing all sorts of nasties including well known carcinogens as well as arsenic
I stand by my statement
This is a good point, which is why we should develop sustainable alternatives to asphalt and concrete. Or wait until flying cars become mainstream so we won't need roads.
How does that work for the environment?
The environment can prossses the remnants quickly.
Man, if the voiceover showed any more enthusiasm for the subject, he might even wake up!
Blatherskite lol my mom hates the show because it sounds like the guy is napping
Its weird seeing these without jokes