Swedish defense minister on stepping up Ukraine aid

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
  • The Kyiv Independent's Francis Farrell spoke to Swedish Defense Minister Pal Jonson on March 28 in Stockholm about stepping up Ukraine aid and a new era in European security.
    Timecodes:
    00:00 - Sweden after joining NATO
    01:12 - 15th support package to Ukraine
    02:24 - Czech initiative
    03:45 - Nammo increases the production of shells in Sweden
    05:23 - Ukraine-Sweden joined production and partnerships
    06:33 - Sweden's position on Ukraine striking Russia
    07:30 - Gripen fighter jet training program

КОМЕНТАРІ • 177

  • @deonengelbrecht5951
    @deonengelbrecht5951 2 місяці тому +92

    Well done the Sweden 🇸🇪. Thank you for supporting Ukraine 🇺🇦

  • @edc.5030
    @edc.5030 2 місяці тому +112

    I love Sweden, thank you Sweden!!!

    • @ekristofer
      @ekristofer 2 місяці тому +6

      Thank you! I am pleased that we finally have joined NATO. And that we could provide security for our Nordic and Baltic friends. Yes, in fact that we get the ability to provide defence capalitity for the whole NATO.

    • @edc.5030
      @edc.5030 2 місяці тому +3

      @@ekristofer Outstanding!!!

    • @bankabaver4583
      @bankabaver4583 Місяць тому +2

      Thx! 🫡

  • @johnslusarenko3309
    @johnslusarenko3309 2 місяці тому +94

    Thank you Sweden!

  • @TheStormtrooper00
    @TheStormtrooper00 2 місяці тому +39

    Sweden will be an upstanding member of NATO,and they already are one of the greatest contributors to the support of Ukraine's fight for survival.God bless Sweden.

  • @wesc6755
    @wesc6755 2 місяці тому +44

    Respect and love to amazing Sweden from the US.

  • @stephenlauret132
    @stephenlauret132 2 місяці тому +123

    Pal Jonson is a VERY and I mean VERY capable man, one of the better Defence Ministers in the EU and NATO. Good one to have in our corner when it comes to European security.

    • @hansericsson7058
      @hansericsson7058 2 місяці тому +33

      Pål Jonson is an ex Swedish coast jäger soldier in the Swedish army and that is one of the hardest millitary educations you can do in Sweden. compareable with American Navy seals so imo he is the best defence minister we had.

    • @stephenlauret132
      @stephenlauret132 2 місяці тому +9

      @@hansericsson7058 He did that during his mandatory service time? More impressed by his stellar education and experience in the defence sector.

    • @ponli7532
      @ponli7532 2 місяці тому +22

      @@hansericsson7058Meh, It's more like amphibious Army rangers. Seals are more special forces. Regardless it's irrelevant to this job. What's important is his PHD Military Science degree at King's College London and subsequent work as army analyst.

    • @1975Per
      @1975Per 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stephenlauret132 Yes, you could volunteer to the tougher units. However I had friends who did kustjägare and came out of it 10kg fatter compared to when hey joined. It's vastly exaggerated how tough it is. Mine divers and Paratroop Ranger (fallskärmsjägare) were the only really tough ones (but not like seals). Today there are also smaller units that are on par with seals.

    • @hansericsson7058
      @hansericsson7058 2 місяці тому +12

      @@1975Per Anyways its nice to have a defenceminister that knows how it is to be a soldier on the ground.

  • @user-hd1oy9ry9e
    @user-hd1oy9ry9e 2 місяці тому +24

    Bravo Sweden, stepping up after much ado, a powerfull Nordic will make a big difference to Western security.

  • @margaretlamb2432
    @margaretlamb2432 2 місяці тому +18

    Thank you Sweden 🇸🇪 for your support for Ukraine from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @arildschonberg3607
    @arildschonberg3607 2 місяці тому +15

    The support from the Swedish 🇸🇪 people and their government is honourable. This defence minister is well articulated and broad minded. Congratulations 🫡

  • @IusedtohaveausernameIliked
    @IusedtohaveausernameIliked 2 місяці тому +32

    As a Canadian I'm happy to have Sweden as an ally and I am impressed with how they are stepping up military aid for Ukraine. We need to do the same. Slava Ukraini!

    • @GoatlikePersonality
      @GoatlikePersonality 2 місяці тому

      Sweden have been in war with Russia 31 times…. We dont want war But we know its a bad neighborhood

  • @axelv1753
    @axelv1753 2 місяці тому +34

    We have a very good defence minister. It has not been possible to be proud of our defence minister for a generation or so. Now it is!

  • @DominikGentener
    @DominikGentener 2 місяці тому +35

    Thank you very much for this interesting interview.

  • @MyDagfinn
    @MyDagfinn 2 місяці тому +39

    Nammo is setting up a new production line in Raufoss, planning a fivefold increase. Their factories in Finland, Sweden and Germany are ramped up, maybe the last two too.

    • @heinedenmark
      @heinedenmark 2 місяці тому +8

      And Denmark is reopening a closed ammunition plant.

    • @henrich2183
      @henrich2183 Місяць тому

      They have been waiting for funding from goverments instead of investing themselves. A serious delayment.

  • @wernertognetti5956
    @wernertognetti5956 2 місяці тому +16

    Thanks to KI for this excellent interview.
    I'am convinced that Sweden at least in one year will send Gripen aircraft to Ukraine.
    Greetings from Western-Europe ❤️🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦❤️.

  • @GoatlikePersonality
    @GoatlikePersonality 2 місяці тому +28

    Hejja Sverige! Slava Ukraini!

  • @angela1984a
    @angela1984a 2 місяці тому +66

    SEND the Gripen Fighter Jets!

    • @yoda204
      @yoda204 2 місяці тому +6

      With no restrictions

    • @GoatlikePersonality
      @GoatlikePersonality 2 місяці тому +5

      Yes 🤠🇳🇴🇸🇪

    • @nattygsbord
      @nattygsbord 2 місяці тому +3

      The will get some old Gripen, but I hope they get some upgrades and meteor missiles.

    • @klausschumacher7126
      @klausschumacher7126 2 місяці тому +1

      It sounds like it's so easy using a fighter jet like a car.... You can send many but what about trained pilots???

    • @balsyprick6764
      @balsyprick6764 2 місяці тому

      @@klausschumacher7126 They started training Ukrainian pilots for the Gripen last year

  • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
    @T1hitsTheHighestNote 2 місяці тому +23

    Nammo in Sweden are switching out their old production machinery from the 80’s to a state of the art production line, thereby probably doubling production capacity, without having to build an entirely new factory. The upgrade will take place during the scheduled maintenance window this summer, I think.

    • @MyDagfinn
      @MyDagfinn 2 місяці тому +1

      The reason it has taken so long time is due to the Finnish-Norwegian co-owning Nammo with Norway has both a direct government stake and indirectly via Kongsberg, while Finland only through Partia.
      Nammo is contracted to be 50-50 between our two states and to find out how Norway could ramp up substantial investment without disturbing the Partia took considerable time.
      All in all more than a billion euros is put up for this, mostly by Norway. In addition half of that in added contracts for the production of 155mm.
      To my knowledge roughly half for the main factory in Raufoss, Norway, I have no idea of the split between the other five factories for this production.

    • @MW_SE
      @MW_SE Місяць тому +1

      We better ramp up our security around these factories to avoid any interference by russian infiltrators (which we can assume have been embedded into our society for years, ready to be activated during a potential sharp situation with russia; and yes, the small 'r' is fully intentional :-).

    • @Bragosso
      @Bragosso Місяць тому

      @@MW_SE As far as I understand, _Kontoret_ _för_ _särskild_ _inhämtning_ is world class. Whatever they might miss will be picked up by our allies.

  • @guol7791
    @guol7791 2 місяці тому +12

    The swedish and Ukrainian companianship against the moscovites has a long history. When the Swedish army began to approach Ukraine under the nordic war the kosackleader and hetman Ivan Mazepa decided to seek it out, and on 28 October 1708 he made an alliance with Karl XII the king of Sweden to fight the russians. Nothing is new under the sun...

  • @johhny711
    @johhny711 2 місяці тому +14

    Well done sweden , from what I have read I think the Gripen fighter jet is the one Ukraine needs most .

    • @donaldliden4545
      @donaldliden4545 2 місяці тому +1

      I dont think so.They need F16 more because they can get hundreds of them and its not smart waist time and money in training and equip the airforce on 2 different planes with different systems.And most of all there simply isnt enough JAS made but there is thousands of F16 out there ,so instead of a handful Gripen its much better with hundreds of F16planes

    • @patrikcarlsson2908
      @patrikcarlsson2908 Місяць тому +1

      @@donaldliden4545 the main problem with fighter crafts is always the maintenance and the capability of support staff, the main issue is that you need 20 guys to support the planes, combine this with massive banks of anti aircraft batteries it is extremely hard to counter, That is why russia dont have much in the air aswell

    • @johhny711
      @johhny711 Місяць тому

      @@donaldliden4545 I agree with that , what I’m saying is the Gripen was designed for working in an environment where you don’t have an airport , the Swedes anticipated the Russians would destroy all airports and runways , so the built a fighter that does need a runway or radar to land , it can land on a dirt track .

  • @larsbkurin1740
    @larsbkurin1740 2 місяці тому +12

    Good interview off a knowledgeable defense minister conducted by an equally knowledgeable journalist. The only place it got a little unclear was about the Gripen, which can be seen as it happening a lot behind the scenes.
    Snyggt jobbat..

  • @johnglover3682
    @johnglover3682 2 місяці тому +7

    From one American in Milwaukee Wisconsin USA. Thank you Sweden. Good to hear your new participation in NATO. Thank you for your support of Ukraine Package: stepping up 155 mm caliber ammunition; replenishing ammunition and provided it to Ukraine; joining the Czech initiative, Nordic Plus Plus to coordinate procurement and joint procurement for bigger orders et al. But please, Defense Minister, literally travel to Ukraine and book a train to near the frontlines and brings some of those men who are behind you along with you. Leave these soldiers behind so they can help support Ukraine.

    • @MattyOfPassion
      @MattyOfPassion 2 місяці тому

      He has already been to Ukraine, last summer.

  • @Djerrko
    @Djerrko 2 місяці тому +43

    #gripen4ukraine!!!

  • @Jamessouk-vl5dv
    @Jamessouk-vl5dv 2 місяці тому +12

    Thank you Sweden aid very good

  • @MrExec3549
    @MrExec3549 2 місяці тому +7

    Thank you, Sweden, for your support of the Ukrainian people. It’s a shame that other Western leaders have decided to hold their heads in the sand and decide not to realize how dangerous Russia is to the European Union and the United States. Your support, support of the Czech Republic, France, and the Nordic nations is especially critical since the Republican Party in my nation has turned its back on Ukraine, Democracy and the Free World. You will help Ukraine to prevail and reclaim their land.

  • @AndyWoohoo666
    @AndyWoohoo666 2 місяці тому +34

    Awesome.
    Now when Sweden is in NATO ( as I have said numerous times before ) there is an opening for Sweden to be able to deliver some Gripen for Ukraine. The reason is simple, with the protection being a NATO member (also Article 5 as a deterrence ) and also the possibility of other NATO countries to aid Sweden with air support/ defense Sweden can deliver Gripen while new fighters are being built. This was the plan from start, Sweden was smart and invited Ukraine and Ukrainian pilots to Sweden to get familiarized and try out the Gripen.
    This started in late 2022 and was first announced in early 2023.
    Sadly the delay was all thanks to Turkey and Hungary that really tried hard to please Putin and get Swedish membership in NATO delayed for as long as they could.

    • @allydea
      @allydea 2 місяці тому +2

      Article 5 doesn't provide protection. It's not a shield, it's a promise.

    • @AndyWoohoo666
      @AndyWoohoo666 2 місяці тому +9

      @@allydea
      It provides protection in the way that if you're attacked the others come to defend.
      The promise lies in other members coming to defend and protect you so stop that useless semantics.

    • @AndyWoohoo666
      @AndyWoohoo666 2 місяці тому +5

      @@allydea
      Also to prove you wrong, NATO protect the Baltic countries, they aid them because they have no air force and hardly any army. It's basically every NATO country there in rotation.
      Sure it's not specifically Article 5 because it only gets invoked if or when a NATO country gets attacked.
      None the less being in NATO is a defense mechanism in itself. Sorry if you don't understand that but you should actually do a bit of research before just commenting on things you obviously have no clue about.

    • @APW554
      @APW554 2 місяці тому +5

      @@allydeaIt’s a shield of protection from lots of nations…

    • @hansericsson7058
      @hansericsson7058 2 місяці тому +8

      I think if we decided to train Ukrainian pilots and give Gripens to Ukraine we propably wouldnt go out with it untill the training is done. We didnt do that for any of the other systems we donated to ukraine.

  • @tomparatube6506
    @tomparatube6506 2 місяці тому +3

    Bravo Pal Jonson for putting aside such a long tradition of non-alignment to face reality. Thank you Sweden for supporting Ukraine! 💪💪💪

  • @medeology4660
    @medeology4660 2 місяці тому +17

    Do not like and did not vote for P Jonson's party or coalition, but him I like.

  • @michelemarr76
    @michelemarr76 2 місяці тому +2

    I stand with Ukraine and am thrilled to see this interview! Slava Ukraini!🙏🇺🇦🙏

  • @nyuppfinning6161
    @nyuppfinning6161 2 місяці тому +6

    I like Pål Jonson, he's highly educated and have served in the military as a Ranger. Probably the best Minister of Defence we had if not ever so at least in a long time...

  • @MatsFrick
    @MatsFrick 2 місяці тому +2

    All respect to the soldiers and people of Ukraine. The shield of freedom! 🇸🇪❤️🇺🇦

  • @tertrathore5886
    @tertrathore5886 7 днів тому

    Pol Jonson is absolute hero. Thank you for supporting Ukraine

  • @petter5721
    @petter5721 2 місяці тому +10

    A very knowledgeable and smart man 👍🏻

  • @mariafoster7388
    @mariafoster7388 2 місяці тому +6

    Go Sweden!

  • @heinedenmark
    @heinedenmark 2 місяці тому +8

    Some interesting information, Thank.

  • @jatufin
    @jatufin 2 місяці тому +6

    Heja Sverige!

  • @patrickkarlsson183
    @patrickkarlsson183 2 місяці тому +22

    If they send gripens they will get my vote next election.

    • @BooleanDisorder
      @BooleanDisorder 2 місяці тому +7

      Unfortunately, America has their boot on our throats with that one. The engines are American made. So it's completely up to them if we send it. Do not be too harsh on the government for that. I really hope America gets their shit together and continue helping Ukraine.

    • @bjorsam6979
      @bjorsam6979 2 місяці тому +3

      S also pushes on supplying Ukr with Gripens. No political divide really.

    • @Bald_Zeus
      @Bald_Zeus 2 місяці тому +5

      @@BooleanDisorderif the US is okay with sending F-16s they will be okay with letting us send Gripens, so that shouldn't be a problem.

  • @larsrons7937
    @larsrons7937 Місяць тому +1

    7:06 Saab Gripen fighters, I hope training will start soon and Ukraine will get them sooner than later. A new and modern airforce is very important for Ukraine. The Gripen don't exist in the huge numbers the F-16s do, but it is very built for the kind of defensive war Ukraine is fighting. I think Ukraine could benefit a lot from even a small number of planes. And Sweden - welcome in NATO and thanks for all you do for Ukraine. Cheers from Denmark. 💙💛Slava Ukraini!

  • @cboemannc
    @cboemannc 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you Sweeden

  • @Nubbe999
    @Nubbe999 Місяць тому +1

    As a Swede I think more aid and help are good but as usual, it's too little and too late. Europe, the West and all partners need and should without a problem be able to overproduce what Russia makes many times over. Ukraine should not be worried about lack of ammunition and should not need to take a lack of ammunition into account when planning its defence. It's a stupid problem that should not exist.

  • @heyyo162
    @heyyo162 2 місяці тому +2

    I heard they are shipping IKEA meatball cannons that the Ukrainians have to assemble on the front line.

  • @Korpen_1979
    @Korpen_1979 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you 🇺🇦, I wish the whole western world stepped up to help you.
    Greetings from 🇸🇪

  • @richardcollins9060
    @richardcollins9060 2 місяці тому +4

    Gripen.

  • @rubiconklbrutorowman7577
    @rubiconklbrutorowman7577 2 місяці тому +3

    Indeed, it was VERY wise decision 4 Sweeden, because NO matter how Sweeden has VERY strongly capable military, sooner or later Swedeen's manpower will out, but with NATO, 31 countries will come aid, so manpower or Russia no longer advantage (hit logistics, fuel, food, no longer advantage!!!). PLUS, NO nuclear black mail from such no good aggressive Russian regime and Russian govt. in general! USA

  • @chilesauce7248
    @chilesauce7248 2 місяці тому +1

    #Sweden rocks, unleash the Gripen 🇸🇪🇺🇦

  • @fredyyfredfreddy
    @fredyyfredfreddy 2 місяці тому +1

    We should try and convince the Norwegians to give even more as well.

    • @yamahaevo
      @yamahaevo 2 місяці тому

      Or countrys who not gi ing much. Norway are giving most pet capita in the entire world

  • @smethreeforty
    @smethreeforty 2 місяці тому +6

    the sub titles spelled Ukraine's capital !! (Kyiv) !! incorrectly. (I will be informing mr Volodymyr Zelenskyy thusly)

    • @allydea
      @allydea 2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for your service!

    • @kyivindependent
      @kyivindependent  2 місяці тому +3

      Those were subtitles created by UA-cam automatically - but nice catch; we will change them soon. You can also read the Q&A here: kyivindependent.com/swedish-defense-minister-interview/

    • @medeology4660
      @medeology4660 2 місяці тому +1

      Even worse: when videos in ukrainian are auto-detected as russian and auto-translated from Russian. I watched an interview with Budanov where this happened and YT translated him as saying: "I know fragrant Thursday on my own. In the spring on the right, the brain is very crayfish. There with buckets and grass, parkan means to earn a rave with Dave's crop." 😂

    • @allydea
      @allydea 2 місяці тому

      @@medeology4660 And what did he actually say? Btw, the google AI's reaction is not exactly supporting the idea that Ukrainian is a completely different language than Russian.

  • @kalmansovari6878
    @kalmansovari6878 2 місяці тому +1

    Gripen was created to stop Russian aggression by our good lord

  • @mistere287
    @mistere287 2 місяці тому +1

    Slava Ukraina all the best from sweden

  • @ama2339
    @ama2339 2 місяці тому +2

    🇺🇦🇸🇪 ✨🌻

  • @redrussianf0x
    @redrussianf0x Місяць тому

    interesting interview, words well put. We Europeans have to get s*** together, we only can rely on ourselves. greetings from Germany!

  • @allannakhle8555
    @allannakhle8555 2 місяці тому +1

    Give Ukraine your awesome Submarines!!!

  • @MrJugsstein
    @MrJugsstein 2 місяці тому +3

    🇺🇦🌻🇦🇺🐨

  • @michaelnorling5062
    @michaelnorling5062 2 місяці тому +1

    👍🇸🇪 🇺🇦👍🇺🇳

  • @hassegullmarsvik2572
    @hassegullmarsvik2572 Місяць тому

    Ooo... soon we will step up.....just bs. step up now and triple that.

  • @PayasoIngles
    @PayasoIngles 2 місяці тому +2

    Russia has fcked up Europe is starting to take this seriously

  • @eskokauppila1327
    @eskokauppila1327 2 місяці тому

    don't use alcohol kyiv[(kiov)]don't use cocaine- and hasistablets

  • @sploonge3
    @sploonge3 2 місяці тому +1

    Give 1 sub. Nightmare for ruz

  • @matsfrommusic
    @matsfrommusic 2 місяці тому +1

    It takes too long, WW2 times 2. Every day people are dying on the battlefield.

  • @Silvius.2
    @Silvius.2 Місяць тому

    What sweden then waiting?
    Great wishes never be doing?
    Sweden grippen jets sweden know since long needed!
    Western blahblahblah?
    Sweden are swiss?
    Sweden are usa?
    Sweden are slovakia ficcers?

  • @Tbone1492
    @Tbone1492 2 місяці тому

    Sweden & U.S sailed to Tripoli in #1801. This spec ops ended #300 years of terror from the Barbary states🙏🇺🇸🇸🇪

  • @rubiconklbrutorowman7577
    @rubiconklbrutorowman7577 2 місяці тому +2

    Urging Ukraine do every possible efforts to get Gripen fighter jets! Look at US, we have long lists: F-15, variants, and even NEW F-15 variants like F-15EX the air-to-air killer, F-16, variants, F-18 variants, F22, F35, and in around 15 years from now 6th generation! I will urge and write my Rep. Senator to send bare minimum of 2-sqadraons of Apache. So many countries, are ordering Apache's and so difficult for Ukraine to get Apache's unless Pres. strongly order himself, which Biden is not known for decisiveness cold fact! USA

    • @gmm5550
      @gmm5550 2 місяці тому +1

      Sweden is a small country with 10 milion ppl and OUR defence forces have the first go on gripen
      Usa has 333,3 miljon ppl..se the difference there?

  • @petermuller1569
    @petermuller1569 2 місяці тому +2

    NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

    • @angela1984a
      @angela1984a 2 місяці тому

      What do you mean? Glory to Ukraine! The NaZi-RuSSian DICTATOR and MASS MURDERER must be held accountable for what he has done in a Court of Law!

  • @niklasnorberg5071
    @niklasnorberg5071 2 місяці тому

    Hopefully it's easier to leave Nato then to join.😂

  • @user-yc4xf8cv5y
    @user-yc4xf8cv5y 2 місяці тому +1

    Urraa💪💪🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

  • @RichardVemvillveta
    @RichardVemvillveta 2 місяці тому +3

    I dont support sending any weapons to Ukraine.
    Greetings from Sweden.

    • @lovehagglund3234
      @lovehagglund3234 2 місяці тому +8

      Get lost Vatnik.

    • @nattygsbord
      @nattygsbord 2 місяці тому +12

      98% of Swedes supports Ukraine according to opinion polls. Including myself.
      Violance in self-defence is justified. And not siding with the victim of warcrimes, genocide and wars of aggression just shows that a person got rotten morality in my opinion. Supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do. And not only that, supporting Ukraine is also in Swedens own self-interest as every destroyed russian tank in Ukraine is one less tank that can threaten Sweden in the future.

    • @Ken-sn7oc
      @Ken-sn7oc 2 місяці тому +4

      Sweden #StandWithUkraine
      Meaning that Ukraine have our *full* support to defend themselfs in ATO.
      Russias aggression against Ukraine is considered as a warcrime.
      Do you support such?

  • @georgesekoele3244
    @georgesekoele3244 2 місяці тому +5

    Throwing themselves into a war that is not theirs, bad move, they should have stayed neutral

    • @EbliZ
      @EbliZ 2 місяці тому +33

      Spoken like a true ruzzian! Well done Vlad.

    • @Bultish
      @Bultish 2 місяці тому

      you sir are a coward and a fool, the war is affecting everyone

    • @3s0t3r1c
      @3s0t3r1c 2 місяці тому +24

      found the orc.

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 2 місяці тому

      Fuck off, Ivan! Nobody likes you.

    • @TheLAGopher
      @TheLAGopher 2 місяці тому

      Everyone is on to Russia's act. They try to isolate a victim country and tell everyone else "It's not your fight" Rinse and repeat.Russians can not be trusted.

  • @Rix.67
    @Rix.67 2 місяці тому +6

    I don't like NATO ....swedish politician sucks...

    • @T1hitsTheHighestNote
      @T1hitsTheHighestNote 2 місяці тому +26

      Ok Ivan, there’s a bag of onions for you! 😂

    • @Rix.67
      @Rix.67 2 місяці тому +3

      @@T1hitsTheHighestNote black onion

    • @GoatlikePersonality
      @GoatlikePersonality 2 місяці тому +6

      Few swedes like nato… But when Putin attacc non nato members…. No real choise anymore. 😢

    • @mrbrand4720
      @mrbrand4720 2 місяці тому

      @@Rix.67 So you are a right wing ruski lol

    • @marcus_hermansson
      @marcus_hermansson 2 місяці тому

      You suck

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