The Stage High: Why Musicians Are Wired Different from the 9-to-5 Crowd

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  • @JAMPROSOUND
    @JAMPROSOUND 12 днів тому +14

    My last band once played a particular show to about 300 people. Most were Japanese exchange students. One of our band members' girlfriends had leaked a bunch of our songwriting demos in another town months before. We took the stage and as we hit the chorus of the first song, the crowd began to sing along! I still get chills when I think back to that show. We were a band nobody cared about or so we thought. What a rush!
    The other thing that I miss is the "Zen" moment at every gig when the band locks in perfectly to each other. That moment when everyone is firing on all cylinders and the need for visual cues disappears. That mental lock that elevates the show to cloud nine is unmistakable. To this day, I can pick up on that moment as a band I'm watching live locks in like that. I still get the feeling even when I'm just an audience member. Friends with me never understand why that hits me so hard. You have to have experienced it personally to understand. I miss playing!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      That is awesome!

    • @sv-yh3mq
      @sv-yh3mq 12 днів тому +1

      Hence the cool name @JAMPROSOUND

    • @Kazwell111
      @Kazwell111 12 днів тому +1

      That is an awesome story! All the years I have played music, my real dream is to be a songwriter and feel the rush of someone else singing the words and music that was I personally responsible for creating. You were able to get that rush as a songwriter AND as a the performer at the same time. That has to be a magical feeling. Sincere congrats! Peace.

    • @jesusislukeskywalker4294
      @jesusislukeskywalker4294 12 днів тому

      ​🙏

  • @slowfinger2
    @slowfinger2 12 днів тому +8

    Us performing and creative arts people are like jack-in-a-boxes. Pent up energy needing to spring into expression. 'preciate your message today Brad.
    My full time career artist sister recently told me that she felt that she never fit in, which astonished me. That now completes every artist I've talked to, ever! I then suggested to her that we were both left by the milkman. Hilarity ensued, and we both felt better about it.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +2

      That is a good one!!☝️

  • @johncoles3521
    @johncoles3521 7 днів тому +2

    Coming off the stage is one of the most difficult things I’ve watched myself and friends with which to handle. Great topic!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  7 днів тому

      I feel you. It's a whole different world on the other side.

  • @TheFeelButton
    @TheFeelButton 12 днів тому +8

    I think it's a stage thing more than a musician thing. The glory from mass praise will rewire anyone the same as the extreme substances that rewire the user into a different person. Definitely a thing to be handled carefully. Cheers Brad!

    • @greenman4508
      @greenman4508 12 днів тому +3

      @@TheFeelButton good point. Fluxing between low self esteem and arrogance is rugged. I tried asking people not to clap at one point, then running one song into the next to stop it. But they just took it as eccentric.

    • @jesusislukeskywalker4294
      @jesusislukeskywalker4294 12 днів тому

      ​@@greenman4508😬

    • @greenman4508
      @greenman4508 12 днів тому

      @@jesusislukeskywalker4294 😂I know. That’s why I went into the woods where things made sense

  • @duanewright1412
    @duanewright1412 3 дні тому +1

    Amen brother!!!! Some of the stories my friend and I tell drop jaws, depending on the circle we're in. The crazy stories were part of our normal life. Most people think we're lying when we mention anything, but we crack up laughing when we get together like we traveled back in time because that time period was AWESOME. We are in our 50's now, so all we have is our (MANY) stories. We had the ultimate 9 to 5, but it was 9pm -5am😂😂😂
    CHEERS to ALL

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  3 дні тому

      Man I know you are not exaggerating!

  • @GraemeCampbellMusic
    @GraemeCampbellMusic 13 днів тому +5

    I completely agree with this. I've either worked shifts or gigged & taught guitar for a living (as I do now). Even at nearly 52 I still feel guilty for not having a "9-5". Most of my work is done in the evenings and at weekends, but that almost feels like cheating. Also having a "scatterbrain" doesn't help :)

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  13 днів тому +5

      Man so many of us can relate because we live it!

  • @Jeremya74
    @Jeremya74 12 днів тому +5

    Granddaddy Jagger needs to hang it up..I.m.o...and I totally agree.the high you get from playing to a crowd can't be matched..yet another great topic from my man badbrad!..keepum coming brother!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      Will do!!! Thank you. 🙏

  • @jacklbrt
    @jacklbrt 12 днів тому +4

    In my 50 years of working various jobs, I never had a 9 to 5. For me, working in an office or a cubicle just seemed like the worst. I can relate to always feeling like being on the outside looking in while growing up and, to a large extent, even today. Great topic!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +3

      Thanks Jack!

    • @MorGuitarz
      @MorGuitarz 12 днів тому +1

      I play guitar (40 years now) and work, of all god-awful industries...in BANKING...IT too. It 100%, complete and totally SUCKS...you cannot even imagine how soul-sucking it is observing all the corporate ass-kissers, pretenders, imposters and all-around assholes...I have to play guitar for an hour just to cleanse every day

  • @brettcreech3490
    @brettcreech3490 13 днів тому +15

    People don’t know what it feels like to be in the pocket.😎

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +3

      Man….

    • @robertmaune8557
      @robertmaune8557 12 днів тому +2

      That's the absolute best

    • @zeketrick
      @zeketrick 12 днів тому +2

      If my wife is dancing 💃 while I play drums "I know I'm in the Pocket "

  • @PaulLoughrin
    @PaulLoughrin 20 днів тому +10

    Thanks Brad! Im the same exact way. I never fit in, in my small hometown of Appleton, WI. I also am a jeans and t-shirt guy! I hate dressing up! Yes sir. You are wise. I see you sell a coffee mug in your store! I may have to buy one! Cheers!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  20 днів тому +6

      Cheers brother!

  • @disiostudio1559
    @disiostudio1559 12 днів тому +2

    All true, Brad! You can still play casuals and the Senior communities where the blue hair older ladies dig younger bucks like you who can entertain them. There are tons of those places in Florida (and here in Arizona). All seriousness aside, you might dig getting into a central Florida party, contemporary jazz/funk, or pop music band. Though we never hit the big time as a big name, some of us have grown out of the club and bar room rut. It does require learning new material. Casuals often pay better with higher end clientele. And building a home studio, though there's no instant gratification that comes with a live audience, is another option to provide new opportunities for creativity, marketing your talent, and complementing your UA-cam video business.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      I had been doing that circuit in Nashville for years. Have not hooked up with the same caliber of players I had in Nashville. Until I can match the $ and great players. It’s a wash.

  • @andrewbenjamin7108
    @andrewbenjamin7108 12 днів тому +4

    its all about being passionate about something

  • @xxcelr8rs
    @xxcelr8rs 12 днів тому +2

    I have had at least one gig a month since 1985. It is addictive. That stage is my spot in the universe.

  • @williamcoiner6019
    @williamcoiner6019 12 днів тому +3

    OMG! I remember the preppy look. Wearing the Izod sport shirt with the collar flipped up and a Polo button down. I just wore 501s with sport shirts.
    You and I are the same age and I leaned to the more conservative side but I was always fascinated hearing from four man band musicians, rock or jazz.
    Coming down from high endorphins is hard. Young people have a hard time with self control. It can destroy. At 58, I am finally patient enough to work on and understand the guitar.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +3

      What a blast from the past eh! Good luck on your journey. 🎸

  • @greenman4508
    @greenman4508 13 днів тому +6

    I don’t know if this is what you reference, but it answers a lot of hinge pin questions really. Simplifies something I could never put into words. Twenty years ago when I would play a gig( almost always solo) , the more the crowd liked it the more bummed out I was on the four hour ride home , or the jobsite I’d go back to afterwards. I used to think it meant that I did something wrong, facilitated the wrong energy, or that I was missing the mark somehow . I’d end up hating the songs people liked the most. It made me actually rebel against my own crowd , resenting the appreciation. Which made them like me more ,as if being an asshole made me more an authentic artist. If I was dating someone I’d warn them that I got very depressed after a show and didn’t want to talk on the ride home. It was better than being grouchy right after having an epic night, and they’d never understand it wasn’t about them at all. I don’t believe in adhd (just different ways of thinking)but you just blew my mind brother. This thing you described actually ruined playing out for me. If I’d realized I was simply crashing from a high, I would’ve just road it out. This was actually what makes me hesitant to play again… I think you just solved a puzzle my subconscious needed filled in man. Dude. Dude. Thank you for this one. I always miss the obvious stuff

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  13 днів тому +3

      This may have unlocked what was holding you back! Wow!

    • @greenman4508
      @greenman4508 13 днів тому +2

      @ I hate to sound overly dramatic about it, but honestly, as it’s just now donning on me… absolutely. I never had a problem playing a room, it was the feeling afterwards that made me feel like I never wanted to try that drug again.

    • @jerryhatrick5860
      @jerryhatrick5860 12 днів тому +2

      This makes a lot of sense.
      In anything I do that nget a natural high.
      Up until recently , the comedown after sadness depression after..
      Something clicked and changed though.
      I didn't get it anymore but it got really bad before it finaly stopped happening..

    • @greenman4508
      @greenman4508 12 днів тому +1

      @ maybe it’s age. I started resenting the up and down with weed so much I resented the high. No interest in the ride.

  • @b-freesatellite3582
    @b-freesatellite3582 13 днів тому +3

    Thank you for making me smile and I agree with you on the up and downs and the uniqueness of being a musician. To stop playing a great gig is torment! Then comes the load out.

  • @DRSTARR-333
    @DRSTARR-333 12 днів тому +1

    T. O. S. H.
    The On Stage High!!
    Adrenalized by
    Rock ‘n’ Roll !!!
    No one else in Hollywood was Singing upside down and gravity boots!
    Or jumping from the Chair of TROUBADOUR‘s second story office door
    Down onto the stage to start a show
    Or doing 10 Russian jump splits instead of just one… to end the set
    that’s what attracted DLR down to our ROCKNE shows and
    I was drug-free at that point in time. Pure Rock Adrenaline!!
    Nothing Ever Came
    Close to Emulating !
    No self-medicating
    could ever compare!!

  • @cheezruff
    @cheezruff 12 днів тому +3

    You hit the nail on the head! I can so relate to family gatherings with story swapping. Sometimes just sitting there keeping my mouth shut. That cracked me up!

  • @DreamerVisionary
    @DreamerVisionary 3 дні тому

    This is a great lesson in humility. The biggest stars that I have ever had the pleasure and privilege of meeting 89% of them are extremely humble and appreciative.

  • @Peter7966
    @Peter7966 13 днів тому +3

    The stage high of a rock star must be intoxicating. I've never gotten close to that flame... thankfully. Ten thousand or more fans cheering you on, erupting at the end of a show, stomping, clapping and howling for more. That would put me in serious trouble. Too much energy. Guys and gals who can do it and keep their head screwed on, all power to them.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +3

      It’s tough to keep your head in that world

  • @doctordetroit4339
    @doctordetroit4339 8 днів тому +2

    Now you know why music is a dangerous biz....always trying to, for lack of better word, maintain the "high"....but it cannot be...gravity always works. And if the crowd isn't there drugs will be.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  8 днів тому +1

      Tough lesson to learn the hard way.

  • @216trixie
    @216trixie 13 днів тому +4

    Wow, really related to this video! Every bit. Grew up in the same kind of neighborhood, a square peg around a bunch of holes. Find myself at family gatherings or social events unable to relate to the normal blah blah chit chat. I get every bit of it. And that high of performing. It even happens during practice sometimes. Great video Thanks.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  13 днів тому +4

      It's definitely a thing. Thanks for watching!

  • @henrywoden5281
    @henrywoden5281 12 днів тому +1

    Thats part of what i love about classical guitar … it can be intense and very rewarding even playing background music for people

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      I can imagine. That's one style I can't play at all.

  • @DeanUSAMale
    @DeanUSAMale 12 днів тому +4

    Remember... the "High" is ultimately a "Lie"... when time is up... like Kansas sang... "all your money, won't another minute buy..." 🌬

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      Dust in the wind

    • @sv-yh3mq
      @sv-yh3mq 12 днів тому

      Hitting the high notes there...

  • @ProbablyTooLoud
    @ProbablyTooLoud 13 днів тому +3

    Some of your talks are cathartic. Keep up the good work !

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  13 днів тому +4

      Thanks, will do!

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 12 днів тому +4

    It is the natural adrenalin the body produces. Many things can spark it.
    Years ago I had an addiction to skiing. Face in snow banks.Expensive addiction.
    It started after the last commited band I was in ever in broke up. I broke it up , a 3 piece.
    Then the addiction to the snowbanks came.
    One day I hopped on a 600 triple 2 stroke racing snowmobile and flew across a field couldn't keep the front end down.
    Power of the machine was so exhilarating the adrenaline rush.
    That day I quit. And went and saved the money I'd have blown on the junk and bought a snowmobile then a 4 wheeler and a street bike..
    Riding saved my life. So that I could find passion for playing music again so that I could help others.
    But it also gave me a shattered collar bone , a new left knee, two plates 19 pins right ankle and tibia.
    A hole n My lung and some ribs cracked here n there. Two right arthroscopic knee surgeries a couple cages iny neck
    But it was more fun and cheaper than that snow bank. Wouldn't change a Thang hahahahah

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      It is adrenaline! Pure.

  • @fumanpoo4725
    @fumanpoo4725 12 днів тому +3

    When the party's over...time to go home. This is not Motley Crue.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      When the music’s over turn out the light.

  • @JoeFeingold777
    @JoeFeingold777 12 днів тому +1

    When I saw the video heading. I at first thought of the high or adrenaline after a gig. Hard to come down feeling.
    Great topic, Brad!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @nickrambles
    @nickrambles 13 днів тому +3

    Stoked to see you live some day !

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +2

      If the channel blows up it could happen.

  • @Kazwell111
    @Kazwell111 12 днів тому +1

    I am around your age and totally relate to everything you are talking about. I feel like we are likeminded souls. I am scatter brained too. I think I might have made it if I could have settled on one genre, but I play a little of everything. I ended up playing a variety act that did a little of each which helped me get and keep bar gigs for many years in my town. I remember once going on stage when my voice was shot, I was the only singer in a one man band. I could hardly talk but somehow got through the night. I thought for sure I was going to have to need to cancel. There is no other high than playing before a crowd of people and getting the instant feedback from the crowd, I swear that at the time, it would make me feel more virile as well, and being a younger guy at the time, meeting a female into you at the end of the gig was like the prize for "conquering" the crowd. You mentioned athletes that experience the same thing, except there is the whole win/lose dynamic. This is deeply tied into our evolutionary instincts to "celebrate" after winning the victory whether it was a competing tribe or an animal hunted down that will provide food the group. On that mic you are designated "Alpha Male" of crowd and the adrenalin rush is like none other when you are letting loose your cries to the tribe and feeding off the excitement you created through your musical message. Love the show and needless to say am a huge fan!!!

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      Great post and tying it into hunting and the primal aspect nails it on the head.

  • @embah42
    @embah42 12 днів тому +4

    Buskers get a street high (as opposed to a stage high) which is less about elevating themselves than being part of the scene.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +2

      I hear you!

  • @dwaynejones1146
    @dwaynejones1146 13 днів тому +4

    Its awkward being around non artistic people, and I find myself at a distance observing them....I guess I am odd to odd to them as well.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  13 днів тому +4

      Man If they don’t love music, it’s really hard to relate.

  • @lowdownfender
    @lowdownfender 12 днів тому +2

    No bow ties on Ace .. yuppy puppy😅

  • @JonHawaii2003
    @JonHawaii2003 12 днів тому +1

    My family members just don't get me at all. My life was always based around the music industry. My Father was in bands since I can remember. I moved to Oklahoma to raise my children near family and there's nothing really here for me. I did the 9-5 thing here for years and it was not fulfilling at all. It drove me crazy. Recently I have met some like minded people and it has been really nice. I will never get back to the level I was at but I will take what I can get. Now I build motorcycles and guitars to get my high. Would be nice to be a touring guitar tech. In my mid 50's now and life has slowed down quite a bit. I will never forget house lights going down and 10,000 fans screaming. Ahh the good ole days

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +2

      Man....I hear you LOUD AND PROUD!

  • @steveleisner6029
    @steveleisner6029 9 днів тому

    Wow, Brad you just told the story of my life. I dont think music is just something that we DO, rather it's something that we ARE. Some sort of mystic bond forms between a performer and an audience and both draw energy off of each other. It's a very human thing. Something that AI will NEVER be able to do. I think that as long as human beings walk this planet, there will always be live music.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  9 днів тому +1

      I hope you are right.

  • @therobertreview8382
    @therobertreview8382 12 днів тому +4

    The smart musician can do both art and a 401k. If you are wearing khakis and weejuns at your gig, you got a good gig and sure beats the Moose Club.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +2

      If your wearing khakis your a “blues lawyer”

    • @therobertreview8382
      @therobertreview8382 12 днів тому

      @badbrad
      It's you're, not your.
      Nobody wants to see a slob on stage unless the audience is a bunch of slobs. Welcome to Florida. What did BB King wear on stage? That's right, you guessed it, a three piece suit and so did his entire band. It's called respecting your genre and your audience. I watch a few of your vids. You dressed up a bit yourself for the gigs that mattered most, did you not? You play extremely well minus the faces made. You can't seem to make up your mind about who you are. One day you are the Oracle, the next just a survivor, the next day only a yt creator because you have to be. Fuss, fuss, fuss. Bet you ten bucks your new wife has a 401k and the credit for the new house you brought. Establishment via marriage, your smartest play yet. Now you are in Florida, one of the worst places in the world for a creative mind.
      I did the same thing but don't think for a second I don't go button down when I want a business deal to go down, including music. I want people to think I am a lawyer, it's a good edge.

    • @lowdownfender
      @lowdownfender 12 днів тому +1

      @@badbrad😂

  • @MrHellfinger
    @MrHellfinger 12 днів тому +1

    What a buzz the stage high is. Was completely sober until that stage high hit. Midnight load out, more than an hour drive home, unload the gear...Still couldn't sleep until 7AM.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      That is a real thing. I use the energy after the gig to aid in the long drive home.

  • @looneyr
    @looneyr 6 днів тому

    Cusack's character, Rob, in High Fidelity, sums this up perfectly in saying, "Some people never got over Vietnam or the night their band opened for Nirvana." We musicians are constantly chasing that feeling. When we take that final bow life is not the same.

  • @Nik.No.K
    @Nik.No.K 12 днів тому

    Nice Jackson Browne reference there, one of my favorite songs of all time. I have such strong memories from childhood of listening to JB in the car with my dad. Definitely had a big impact on who I am today and how I see the world.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      It is perhaps the greatest song about life on the road. Love it.

  • @smoodie1
    @smoodie1 12 днів тому +2

    Exactly.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      Right on: 👍🏻

  • @darrellkelly7614
    @darrellkelly7614 12 днів тому +2

    Women have been trying to tame me since the 70s. I'm still playing to crowds that provide that stage high 4 times monthly. I'm 67 and better than ever musicly but physically I see the end coming..
    Everyday people seem hoaky to me.😊

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      I can relate!

  • @scottdunn9087
    @scottdunn9087 13 днів тому +1

    On a rollll Brad🎉

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      Thank you!!!!

  • @216trixie
    @216trixie 13 днів тому +1

    Dig that opening lick😂

  • @MrRichiekaye
    @MrRichiekaye 12 днів тому +1

    After about 18 or 19, the buzz left and I discovered it is much better to play impersonally and dispassionately, with professional energy suitable to what I play, but the music I play doesn't have any hype to it. There's nothing to come down from. The problem is that young people's music is just visceral and skin deep, and once adulthood is reached, that kind of music is like eating potato chips, because there's nothing nutritious and satisfying there.

  • @zeketrick
    @zeketrick 12 днів тому +3

    I've never made money playing drums, but i have played for small crowds, pretty exciting to see people smiling,listening dancing and now taking video,even got some compliments. yikes 😬 I better practice. Z

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому

      That’s a great feeling.

  • @Skipp28TN
    @Skipp28TN 12 днів тому +2

    Kindwired fir both Worked M-F. Gigged Th Fri Sat rest Sun. Repeat

  • @johnparsons6750
    @johnparsons6750 3 дні тому

    The stage high for me was followed by the break down of equipment and pack up of the car. Always kind of a downer. Night usually ended with handshakes with the other band guys.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  3 дні тому

      You can use that energy to help on the load out and drive home.....

  • @NikosKatsikanis
    @NikosKatsikanis 12 днів тому +1

    I know the feeling coming off stage I can't play enough guitar in Ukraine or Vienna - ill be in Ukraine over Christmas

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      Best to you Nikos

  • @Swanlord05
    @Swanlord05 12 днів тому +1

    Brad did Gene really do 10k women?😂

  • @jerryhatrick5860
    @jerryhatrick5860 12 днів тому +5

    I call it hyperintelligent. Not ADHD OR ADD.

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  12 днів тому +1

      Amen

    • @ProbablyTooLoud
      @ProbablyTooLoud 12 днів тому +1

      Hyperaware is another form. It’s when I’ve done my best songwriting, especially lyrics. It’s not something most people can sustain for more than a few years, probably less.

  • @oceanview4065
    @oceanview4065 12 днів тому +1

    I would probably take the Elvis route, eat a bunch of food after the show and get fat. If I had rock star money I would hire a chef, eat healthy, and either get with women or play board games for an hour after the show.Then try and get some sleep.

  • @afh0831
    @afh0831 12 днів тому

    💯🤙🏻

  • @tamcee6628
    @tamcee6628 11 днів тому

    Musos do it for the buzz on stage. for most it has never been a carear you can rely on. I gave it away at 21 Y.O.

  • @BratFauntleroy
    @BratFauntleroy 11 днів тому

    Nice hair

    • @badbrad
      @badbrad  11 днів тому +1

      Glad you like it.