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@@johnpetkos5686 Καλος ειναι. Αλλα τον χανω σε αρκετα σημεια. Για το επιπεδο του , θα επρεπε να εχει αλλες τοποθετησεις και για τον Ιακωβο τον αδερφο του Ιησου αλλα και για την ελλειψη αποδειξεων γενικα οτι υπηρξε.
I like that Bart is self-possessed and kind enough to tell people where to look in the Bible for messages on current issues. That just seems like a really wholesome thing for an atheist and former believer to be doing. I doubt he uses the Bible anymore for comfort or to win points in debates, but he doesn’t judge others for doing so; instead he helps them find what they’re looking for. What a swell example to set.
I thought it was a typo that this video was listed as 10 hours when I started, and was actually an hour- halfway thru so far, and applaud History Valley for bringing the impeccable & generous scholarship of Bart Ehrman to the masses 👍🏽
Comment on 2:10:00 Reading is power. I just saw a TikTok of a conservative who switched political sides because he read a book about red lining in school. He learned facts, history, and empathy. This is what conservatives don't want their voters educated. Also, I once went to a church that didn't have hymnals or Bibles and the priest literally said that it was his job to interpret scripture for everyone and it wasn't necessary for us to read it. I never went back to that church. What a joke.
Regarding baptism by fire, the account of Enoch's ascension noted the presence of fire, (and God as being aflame with fire) in the throne room. There are some other similar ascension accounts. This, it seems to me, is most likely to be the source of the idea of baptism with fire - - when one ascends to the highest heaven or when one enters the heavenly throne room. The fringe idea that everyone would be burned alive in flames at the end of the world has a much weaker scriptural basis.
I want a Bart Ehrman lecture on a time when one forgery fought another. Like, I want the back and forth of a Pseudo Paul vs Pseudo James flame war or something. I’m sure such things happened whether or not they survived. I wonder if any apocrypha (or even any of the canon) is like this; just liar vs liar in a theological debate. Edit: I just got to the section on gnostic vs Greek Peter. Here’s some action. I gotta read the book where he talks about this.
Look at the conclusions of Matthew and Mark. Compare the teachings in Matthew to the conclusion of Matthew - perfect fit. Compare the teachings of Jesus in Mark to the conclusion of Mark - is it as consistent as Matthew? Is it different than Matthew? Use you God given brains folks!
@@TheDanEdwards Yes, but for what end? The solution is easy once you realize we've all inherited lies from our "faith fathers" in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The disinformation is a pox on humanity and it's time we faced the facts. Read: Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?
@@TheDanEdwards I'm thinking of Bart - whom I have followed for years - I wish he'd use his mind towards solutions to the problems caused by altered and faked scriptures.
Bart may have erred in definitely stating that none of Jesus' early followers wrote anything down about him. Why? Because not everyone at the time was incapable of reading & writing. Some certainly were, even if they might have only written relatively brief stories about him, perhaps in the form of letters or diaries. The fundamental error I believe Bart has committed is this: "Absence of evidence does not imply evidence of absence." I find it highly unlikely that the words of and stories about Jesus were not written down at an early date. More likely, there were various short passages written by various followers, and these were probably collected at some point and made their way into the Q document.
1. "Our only info about Jesus comes from the New Testament" 2. "So let me tell you all about Jesus before the New Testanent." 3.(Anyone see a problem here?)
Because the books of the New Testament were not written in Jesus' lifetime, but decades later. If he existed, he lived before the New Testament was compiled.
@@WayWalker3 No serious historian believes it even remotely plausible Jesus "did not exist," and the consensus as to when the gospels were writtrn has more to do with the stodgy fear of academics being ostracized for disagreeing with a "consensus" dating that is very flimsy as to any cogent factual basis. Most scholars nowadays will concede that Jesus' prediction re. the temple's destruction would have been a slam dunk for any perceptive 'prophet' circa 30 a.d., I.e., the assumption the apocalypse of Mark's gosoel had to have been inked into the Jesus natrative ex post facto is not honestly sustainable, which means that THE DATING OF MARK C.70+ IS ALTOGETHER GROUNDLESS AND ARBITRARY (!) This makes the common sense view far more likely: Mark was penned circa 40-45. Perhaps even as an abbreviation of Peter's preaching, penned post-Matthew. It is even possible John was written first! The "consensus" on gospel dating I'm afraid is heading for the rubbish heap of New Testanent history, along with the colored bead ranking fiasco and the ludicrously counterintuitive 'ctiterion of embarassment' lol!
Ehrman didn't even see that Jesus predicted His own death and resurrection in Mark's gospel cause he has stated that Mark shows that Jesus was chocked that God could let it happen to Him. And other things. So how could he explain the New Testament...
according to the bible Jesus was the God appointed king of the Jews which means according to the bible the pharisees surrendered the Jews to Rome and following the pattern of prophecy and miracles from the old testament the resurrection will be fulfilled when the Jews are delivered from Rome
Explained: The Church concocted a passion narrative story and pasted and glued it to the Jewish Bible and then during translation from Greek to Latin to English mistranslated and added and took away and separated the Jewish Bible and inserted the Jesus agenda which caused the reader to miss important verses and allowed the reader to take the Jewish Bible completely out of context. Christendom in a nutshell. You’re welcome.
If you discard The New Testament, you might as well discard TANACH as a collection of absurd stories without any factual evidence to substantiate them. I have always found it most disingenuous that Judaism declared its adherents to be "God's Chosen People" when recorded history proved otherwise. I think it's very sad that Bart Ehrman's scholarship led him down the rabbit hole of atheism, which I believe is more absurd than even the most outrageous stories in today's "Holy Bible". I have spent my life trying to understand the Creator of everything visible and invisible, and I truly believe our Creator is infinitely merciful and eternally loving of mankind. Instead of trying to authenticate Jesus's true nature, I have found it most helpful simply to pray the prayer he taught his disciples and live each day loving God, my fellow man, and myself.😇
But now Christians actually believe Jesus is that God who ķìĺ. ĺed those children in cold blood. But it's weird because even though they do believe Jesus is that God they still hold on to the Marcian view about the God of the Old Testament unknowingly. They always separate Jesus from God of the Old Testament the first words out of a Christians mouth is that's the Old Testament we don't follow that. But they use the Old Testament to prove Jesus divinity. But it's clear all they care about is the verses they believe pertain to Jesus. They speak as if it's another God of the Old Testament and Jesus is the one who is the caring and loving God.
Bart Ehrman DEBUNKED | Answering the Fool - This video deals with many of the common arguments put forth by the infamous Dr. Bart Ehrman and demonstrates his deep-seated bias towards the Christian faith is the actual driving force behind his conclusions and not scholarly research. Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes. 😊
3 things to consider; the Gospels are fictional dramatizations, they are they gift of a Divine Providence, Jesus was baptized in repentance for the remission of sin.
About to start this, given it’s 10 hours please tell me that he doesn’t get greedy with the ads on this one and goes with every half hour not every 5 minutes (or every 3 minutes like he’s been known to do) Given others use these videos to sleep like I do then believe me, going half hour works better as not having to skip means we stick with it and it plays in full with the ads playing in full if they’re spaced out enough
Seriously Jacob, every 5 minutes for the ads on a 10 hour video man!!!! Why so greedy, change it up to half an hour brother and I’ll come back You don’t get paid as much on skipped ads anyway, go half an hour and those of us who sleep to the videos will let the ads play in full, even while awake
UA-cam placed most of the adds in the 1-2 hours automatically, I took a look and didn't realize how close together they were, I fixed it and removed several.
We've all been duped by the lies - altered scriptures - from Judaism and Rome. See: "Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?" There was no fall, blood is not required to forgive sins, and Jesus' teachings were restoring what Judaism had taken away from us by altering the words of God. Jesus was renewing the Covenant Standards of Elohim.
If blood is not required to forgive sins... Then why did he have to die on the cross? Are you claiming that Jesus did not die for our sins? If someone had to pay, that's not FORGIVENESS, a forgiven debt doesn't need to be paid.
@stephen-f9h It leaves us with "the Original Jesus", who was proven now to have been inspired by God the Father to be retelling the Original and Unaltered Standards from the Sinai Covenant that was altered many centuries before he came along. The Hebrew "Scriptures" are a joke. See: "The Origin of Judaism", and "Why the Bible Began." See "The Moses Scroll" and "The Valediction of Moses". It isn't rocket theology - it's observing the words of God and some common sense.
@@barnsweb52 Elohim is the plural of Eloh. IOW the gods. This is correct in as much as you don’t know what it means. In the late Bronze Age the last Hittite king married a high priestess of Canaan and she was essentially his contract lawyer. The reason he needed a high priestess is because there were 3000 gods he had to deal with, but only about 70 in the Elohim, which his wife was familiar with. Nonetheless the fact that she knew how to make concessions for a great numbers of gods that she could write contracts the did not offend people. As the last Hittite his kingdom was replaced by syroanatolian city states, most of the gods had disappeared but each city state had to deal with a variety of gods. It was pointed out in one of the letters that nearby kings wanted priests of fledgling cites to anoint them to give them authority. This is the first recognition of anointment in ANE. But it made sense, the kingship ceremony of past required a priestess of Inanna and Uruk was 5 city states away. The NeoAssyrian further developed the Covenent code for vassals, as both Israel and Judea were. Again Assyria had a high god Asshur but these were part of an older Mesopotamian pantheon. When Israel is brought in as a vassal then its god(s) become part of the Vassal Covenent. In Deu 32:8 original version as found in the DSS this process of pantheon inclusion is presented.
@stephen-f9h No, what we have is the truth, as directly inspired by God to tell us in ways that 'put legs' to the Instructions Elohim gave to start with. What we have is the true light of the words of God that defy the lies that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been trying to sell us for hundreds of years. What we have is enlightenment of the true purpose of life and the path of equity that Elohim said we will be blessed in our coming to this life, and in our leaving this life. God makes perfect sense - unlike Paul and the Rabbis'.
@@Darisiabgal7573 You need to read the 3000 year old translation of the Shapira scrolls - He said His name is Elohim, and that He is not the only God, but God of gods. Look them up and see for yourself before you make such ignorant comments to be fact.
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. Surah Al-Maidah Full Quran.
O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. Quran.
And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." Surah Al-Baqarah Full Quran.
وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ سُلَالَةٍ مِنْ طِينٍ ﴿۱۲﴾ We created the human from an essence of clay: (12) ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُطْفَةً فِي قَرَارٍ مَكِينٍ ﴿۱۳﴾ then We made him, a drop, in a secure receptacle (the womb). (13) ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنْشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ ﴿۱۴﴾ Then We created of the drop, a clot (of congealed blood) and We created the clot into bitesize tissue, then We created the bitesize tissue into bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it an other creation. Blessed is Allah, the Best of creators! (14) ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ لَمَيِّتُونَ ﴿۱۵﴾ After that you shall surely die, (15) ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ تُبْعَثُونَ ﴿۱۶﴾ and be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection. (16)
And you had already known about those who transgressed among you concerning the sabbath, and We said to them, "Be apes, despised." Surah Al-Baqarah Full Quran.
How about all the other figures who were said to be crucified and resurrected after death, all the other Greek mythology’s, Jesus story was not unique.
Al-Qur'an reveals the real Jesus without painfully going through uncertain hypotheses/ theories by historians like Bart Ehrman. Read for example Al-Qur'an, 5:72-77.
Have you read Spinoza? Do you understand Spinoza's God?. Spinoza understood God exists, I understand God exists and you can understand. To understand God exists you have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheists misreason "sky daddy doesn't exist therefore god doesn’t exist, and all the arguments that point to the existence of god have to be wrong". To understand God exists you have to understand the kalam cosmological argument: what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. Logically it is impossible the existence of an infinite number of causes, therefore an eternal first uncaused cause that created what has a beginning of existence exists. Did you understand why God exists? God exists because logically it is impossible the existence of the creation or finitude without the creator or infinitude!. If you pay attention you will realize atheists and religious people defend an idea without any arguments. The horrible reality that atheists and religious people sell doesn't exist!. To end the war the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. I am trying to overcome an unjust censorship. Thank you.
Spinoza believed the God of his ideas existed. He did not know i.e. have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, that such a god existed. What you refer to as his 'understanding', simply means that he held a particular position of acceptance of a concept of his god in his mind. It doesn't mean that god actually exists, as it's still a claim to faith, as it is not falsifiable any more than spiritual snowdrops exist on Alpha Centauri.
Spinoza was excommunicated from his Jewish community because they believed his concepts were too Atheistic. To monotheists, pantheism is akin to atheism.
@@Allothersweretakenn Hardly. But anyone who's spent years stidying NT historical scholarship knows the extent his grifts are sophomoric oversimplifications and outright lies. Perhaps you don't mind being lied to or even believing lies--practicallyban American tradition--but I've always intensely disliked it. And as an ex-evangelical--which is what he is--his oily demeanor and contrived jocularity pretty much give away his game. Even his reasons for embracing atheism are either intellectually disingenuous, logically dubious or just plain boneheaded. Check it out.
Just cut the crap Bart. Matthew alone was in Aramaic. It was reported to have been accepted by two or three Jewish Christian sects before 40 CE. It was reported to be the collective effort of documentation by the original disciples well before 40 CE. They did not have to write it - chances are good someone volunteered to document it for them, or someone else paid for them to document it. Most of your arguments stem from what the Rabbi said - not what the Christians said. Stop your incessant giggling and get serious sometime. Onediscipletoanother
How do you know Matthew was wriiten in Aramaic?Where is it "reported"? What 2 or 3 sects? And how do you know who those people were or how they saw Jesus? The only evidence we have doesn't agree with you. We have surviving gospels, none provide evidence for your arguments
@@mjt532 You will not hear this from current 'scholars' as they depend upon 'peer review' that agrees with other peers. It's based on evidence that they dare not put together - because the evidence exposes the lie, who lied, when they lied, and why they lied. Anyone who is beholden to publishers will not tell the real truth. Much was destroyed and altered before 400 CE - starting before 100 CE by those who believed Paul, and excluding those who they were trying to destroy. See the book "Romans Proves Paul Lied". Evidence is we all have altered texts from Judaism and Christianity - it's overwhelming evidence. The book exposes Romans, covers the Sermon on the Mount from the Hebrew and Aramaic texts pre 160 CE, and the 3000 year old account of the Covenant Standards found in the Shapira scrolls. Noted are high level scholarship from Jewish scholars - Harvard and Oxford - evidence from over 100 years of archelogy to prove the Hebrew accounts are greatly mythologized.
@stephen-f9h The gospel of Matthew was either written in Aramaic or Hebrew. Even Jerome acknowledged this and said the original was still known to be in a certain library. So when was it first said that the gospel of Matthew was originally in Greek?! It's a patent lie. Those from Papias to Jerome say otherwise.
@stephen-f9h Take that up with Andrew Gabriel Roth, who gave us the "Aramaic English New Testament", Papias, and Jerome - as well as Paul Harvey. It's also shown on a chart of the History of the New Testament Canon on my website - on the first page is a link to it. Christian scholarship is WAY behind the Jewish scholars who wrote the books mentioned. "The Origins of Judaism" - just read the chapter: "Conclusions".
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10 hours with Bart Ehrman? Sold 👍
There's a sucker born every minute. He's not credible. And he's a grifter.
For some reason, I could sit and listen to this man all day. His gift of imparting fascinating knowledge is simply unmatched!
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@@harryhagman6063 Take the phone in the bathroom!
@@johnpetkos5686 Καλος ειναι. Αλλα τον χανω σε αρκετα σημεια. Για το επιπεδο του , θα επρεπε να εχει αλλες τοποθετησεις και για τον Ιακωβο τον αδερφο του Ιησου αλλα και για την ελλειψη αποδειξεων γενικα οτι υπηρξε.
Funny how at the same time, there are ppl on the opposite end of the spectrum😅😂
@@johnpetkos5686 Αξιοπιστος ειναι, αλλα απορω με μερικες απο τις θεσεις του, δεν θα επρεπε καν να εχει φτασει σε τετοιο conclusion.
I like that Bart is self-possessed and kind enough to tell people where to look in the Bible for messages on current issues. That just seems like a really wholesome thing for an atheist and former believer to be doing. I doubt he uses the Bible anymore for comfort or to win points in debates, but he doesn’t judge others for doing so; instead he helps them find what they’re looking for. What a swell example to set.
I thought it was a typo that this video was listed as 10 hours when I started, and was actually an hour- halfway thru so far, and applaud History Valley for bringing the impeccable & generous scholarship of Bart Ehrman to the masses 👍🏽
I could listen to stuff like this all day and frequently do. Thanks!
Ehrman has said things which show that he doesn't even read the Bible carefully before he comments on its content though...
Comment on 2:10:00 Reading is power. I just saw a TikTok of a conservative who switched political sides because he read a book about red lining in school. He learned facts, history, and empathy. This is what conservatives don't want their voters educated. Also, I once went to a church that didn't have hymnals or Bibles and the priest literally said that it was his job to interpret scripture for everyone and it wasn't necessary for us to read it. I never went back to that church. What a joke.
This video has to be "cut" in chapters with timestamps
After that, it's gonna blow up the whole internet
Great job anyways!
I added some in the description.
This is outstanding. What a gift!
This is outstanding! Thank you both for such a great interview!
Supercut. Cool
Great 👍
Regarding baptism by fire, the account of Enoch's ascension noted the presence of fire, (and God as being aflame with fire) in the throne room. There are some other similar ascension accounts.
This, it seems to me, is most likely to be the source of the idea of baptism with fire - - when one ascends to the highest heaven or when one enters the heavenly throne room.
The fringe idea that everyone would be burned alive in flames at the end of the world has a much weaker scriptural basis.
Thanks!
Or luke was written later . He said it like the date Luke was written is certain . It’s not
I want a Bart Ehrman lecture on a time when one forgery fought another. Like, I want the back and forth of a Pseudo Paul vs Pseudo James flame war or something. I’m sure such things happened whether or not they survived. I wonder if any apocrypha (or even any of the canon) is like this; just liar vs liar in a theological debate.
Edit: I just got to the section on gnostic vs Greek Peter. Here’s some action. I gotta read the book where he talks about this.
I have an extremely vivid memory of standing in front of the TV and watching the second plane hit the south tower. It’s probably bullshit.
Look at the conclusions of Matthew and Mark. Compare the teachings in Matthew to the conclusion of Matthew - perfect fit.
Compare the teachings of Jesus in Mark to the conclusion of Mark - is it as consistent as Matthew? Is it different than Matthew? Use you God given brains folks!
"Use you God given brains folks!"
@@TheDanEdwards Yes, but for what end? The solution is easy once you realize we've all inherited lies from our "faith fathers" in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The disinformation is a pox on humanity and it's time we faced the facts. Read: Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?
@@TheDanEdwards I'm thinking of Bart - whom I have followed for years - I wish he'd use his mind towards solutions to the problems caused by altered and faked scriptures.
Bart may have erred in definitely stating that none of Jesus' early followers wrote anything down about him. Why? Because not everyone at the time was incapable of reading & writing. Some certainly were, even if they might have only written relatively brief stories about him, perhaps in the form of letters or diaries.
The fundamental error I believe Bart has committed is this: "Absence of evidence does not imply evidence of absence."
I find it highly unlikely that the words of and stories about Jesus were not written down at an early date. More likely, there were various short passages written by various followers, and these were probably collected at some point and made their way into the Q document.
8:47:32 he meant to say the alexandrian form is older not the Byzantine which is more edited.
1. "Our only info about Jesus comes from the New Testament"
2. "So let me tell you all about Jesus before the New Testanent."
3.(Anyone see a problem here?)
Because the books of the New Testament were not written in Jesus' lifetime, but decades later. If he existed, he lived before the New Testament was compiled.
@@WayWalker3 No serious historian believes it even remotely plausible Jesus "did not exist," and the consensus as to when the gospels were writtrn has more to do with the stodgy fear of academics being ostracized for disagreeing with a "consensus" dating that is very flimsy as to any cogent factual basis.
Most scholars nowadays will concede that Jesus' prediction re. the temple's destruction would have been a slam dunk for any perceptive 'prophet' circa 30 a.d.,
I.e., the assumption the apocalypse of Mark's gosoel had to have been inked into the Jesus natrative ex post facto is not honestly sustainable, which means that THE DATING OF MARK C.70+ IS ALTOGETHER GROUNDLESS AND ARBITRARY (!)
This makes the common sense view far more likely: Mark was penned circa 40-45. Perhaps even as an abbreviation of Peter's preaching, penned post-Matthew. It is even possible John was written first!
The "consensus" on gospel dating I'm afraid is heading for the rubbish heap of New Testanent history, along with the colored bead ranking fiasco and the ludicrously counterintuitive 'ctiterion of embarassment' lol!
No. -Historians
@OMJ_the_Show Which he obviously is not one, aside from his blatant dishonesty.
Ehrman didn't even see that Jesus predicted His own death and resurrection in Mark's gospel cause he has stated that Mark shows that Jesus was chocked that God could let it happen to Him. And other things. So how could he explain the New Testament...
according to the bible Jesus was the God appointed king of the Jews which means according to the bible the pharisees surrendered the Jews to Rome and following the pattern of prophecy and miracles from the old testament the resurrection will be fulfilled when the Jews are delivered from Rome
Trying to answer some questions.
Most scholars are clueless or just repeating each other.
Jesus’ words. Gospel of Thomas. Solved…
Explained:
The Church concocted a passion narrative story and pasted and glued it to the Jewish Bible and then during translation from Greek to Latin to English mistranslated and added and took away and separated the Jewish Bible and inserted the Jesus agenda which caused the reader to miss important verses and allowed the reader to take the Jewish Bible completely out of context.
Christendom in a nutshell.
You’re welcome.
If you discard The New Testament, you might as well discard TANACH as a collection of absurd stories without any factual evidence to substantiate them. I have always found it most disingenuous that Judaism declared its adherents to be "God's Chosen People" when recorded history proved otherwise. I think it's very sad that Bart Ehrman's scholarship led him down the rabbit hole of atheism, which I believe is more absurd than even the most outrageous stories in today's "Holy Bible". I have spent my life trying to understand the Creator of everything visible and invisible, and I truly believe our Creator is infinitely merciful and eternally loving of mankind. Instead of trying to authenticate Jesus's true nature, I have found it most helpful simply to pray the prayer he taught his disciples and live each day loving God, my fellow man, and myself.😇
Time stamp anyone?
I added some in the description.
But now Christians actually believe Jesus is that God who ķìĺ. ĺed those children in cold blood. But it's weird because even though they do believe Jesus is that God they still hold on to the Marcian view about the God of the Old Testament unknowingly. They always separate Jesus from God of the Old Testament the first words out of a Christians mouth is that's the Old Testament we don't follow that. But they use the Old Testament to prove Jesus divinity. But it's clear all they care about is the verses they believe pertain to Jesus. They speak as if it's another God of the Old Testament and Jesus is the one who is the caring and loving God.
RIP Apologetics 🥀
Unacceptable how many adds are in this video..
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10 hours.
Jesus.
What oral tradition? Where is the evidence for it? It doesn’t exist.
59:00 BART REALLY PUT EMPHASIS ON THOSE WORDS.
Mamma Mia 10 horas!!!
Bart Ehrman DEBUNKED | Answering the Fool - This video deals with many of the common arguments put forth by the infamous Dr. Bart Ehrman and demonstrates his deep-seated bias towards the Christian faith is the actual driving force behind his conclusions and not scholarly research.
Proverbs 26:5
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes.
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3 things to consider; the Gospels are fictional dramatizations, they are they gift of a Divine Providence, Jesus was baptized in repentance for the remission of sin.
About to start this, given it’s 10 hours please tell me that he doesn’t get greedy with the ads on this one and goes with every half hour not every 5 minutes (or every 3 minutes like he’s been known to do)
Given others use these videos to sleep like I do then believe me, going half hour works better as not having to skip means we stick with it and it plays in full with the ads playing in full if they’re spaced out enough
Seriously Jacob, every 5 minutes for the ads on a 10 hour video man!!!! Why so greedy, change it up to half an hour brother and I’ll come back
You don’t get paid as much on skipped ads anyway, go half an hour and those of us who sleep to the videos will let the ads play in full, even while awake
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God didn't save Jesus and all the apostles from death!
We've all been duped by the lies - altered scriptures - from Judaism and Rome. See: "Romans Proves Paul Lied - Have We Inherited Lies From Our Fathers?" There was no fall, blood is not required to forgive sins, and Jesus' teachings were restoring what Judaism had taken away from us by altering the words of God. Jesus was renewing the Covenant Standards of Elohim.
If blood is not required to forgive sins...
Then why did he have to die on the cross?
Are you claiming that Jesus did not die for our sins?
If someone had to pay, that's not FORGIVENESS, a forgiven debt doesn't need to be paid.
@stephen-f9h It leaves us with "the Original Jesus", who was proven now to have been inspired by God the Father to be retelling the Original and Unaltered Standards from the Sinai Covenant that was altered many centuries before he came along. The Hebrew "Scriptures" are a joke. See: "The Origin of Judaism", and "Why the Bible Began." See "The Moses Scroll" and "The Valediction of Moses". It isn't rocket theology - it's observing the words of God and some common sense.
@@barnsweb52 Elohim is the plural of Eloh. IOW the gods. This is correct in as much as you don’t know what it means. In the late Bronze Age the last Hittite king married a high priestess of Canaan and she was essentially his contract lawyer. The reason he needed a high priestess is because there were 3000 gods he had to deal with, but only about 70 in the Elohim, which his wife was familiar with. Nonetheless the fact that she knew how to make concessions for a great numbers of gods that she could write contracts the did not offend people. As the last Hittite his kingdom was replaced by syroanatolian city states, most of the gods had disappeared but each city state had to deal with a variety of gods. It was pointed out in one of the letters that nearby kings wanted priests of fledgling cites to anoint them to give them authority. This is the first recognition of anointment in ANE. But it made sense, the kingship ceremony of past required a priestess of Inanna and Uruk was 5 city states away. The NeoAssyrian further developed the Covenent code for vassals, as both Israel and Judea were. Again Assyria had a high god Asshur but these were part of an older Mesopotamian pantheon. When Israel is brought in as a vassal then its god(s) become part of the Vassal Covenent. In Deu 32:8 original version as found in the DSS this process of pantheon inclusion is presented.
@stephen-f9h No, what we have is the truth, as directly inspired by God to tell us in ways that 'put legs' to the Instructions Elohim gave to start with. What we have is the true light of the words of God that defy the lies that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have been trying to sell us for hundreds of years. What we have is enlightenment of the true purpose of life and the path of equity that Elohim said we will be blessed in our coming to this life, and in our leaving this life. God makes perfect sense - unlike Paul and the Rabbis'.
@@Darisiabgal7573 You need to read the 3000 year old translation of the Shapira scrolls - He said His name is Elohim, and that He is not the only God, but God of gods. Look them up and see for yourself before you make such ignorant comments to be fact.
Chinese whispers
And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen.
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Quran.
Koran is a comic book full of laughs and mistakes. Even in the above, its author got things wrong.
O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allah), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V. 2:2).
O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.
Quran.
And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."
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@stephen-f9h
وَلَقَدْ خَلَقْنَا الْإِنْسَانَ مِنْ سُلَالَةٍ مِنْ طِينٍ ﴿۱۲﴾ We created the human from an essence of clay: (12) ثُمَّ جَعَلْنَاهُ نُطْفَةً فِي قَرَارٍ مَكِينٍ ﴿۱۳﴾ then We made him, a drop, in a secure receptacle (the womb). (13) ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنْشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ ﴿۱۴﴾ Then We created of the drop, a clot (of congealed blood) and We created the clot into bitesize tissue, then We created the bitesize tissue into bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then produced it an other creation. Blessed is Allah, the Best of creators! (14) ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ لَمَيِّتُونَ ﴿۱۵﴾ After that you shall surely die, (15) ثُمَّ إِنَّكُمْ يَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ تُبْعَثُونَ ﴿۱۶﴾ and be resurrected on the Day of Resurrection. (16)
And you had already known about those who transgressed among you concerning the sabbath, and We said to them, "Be apes, despised."
Surah Al-Baqarah Full
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@stephen-f9h
The planet?? Hahaha
He's pulling shyte out of his ass. Imagining how it must have gone then declaring it fact.
Riduculous!😅
How about all the other figures who were said to be crucified and resurrected after death, all the other Greek mythology’s, Jesus story was not unique.
Al-Qur'an reveals the real Jesus without painfully going through uncertain hypotheses/ theories by historians like Bart Ehrman.
Read for example Al-Qur'an, 5:72-77.
Yes the best historical Qur'an scholarship is available on *Nabi Asli*
Mashallah 🤲🏼
Have you read Spinoza? Do you understand Spinoza's God?. Spinoza understood God exists, I understand God exists and you can understand. To understand God exists you have to understand the atheist logical fallacy. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is "sky daddy" to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Atheists misreason "sky daddy doesn't exist therefore god doesn’t exist, and all the arguments that point to the existence of god have to be wrong". To understand God exists you have to understand the kalam cosmological argument: what has a beginning of existence has a cause because from nothing can not be created something. Logically it is impossible the existence of an infinite number of causes, therefore an eternal first uncaused cause that created what has a beginning of existence exists. Did you understand why God exists? God exists because logically it is impossible the existence of the creation or finitude without the creator or infinitude!. If you pay attention you will realize atheists and religious people defend an idea without any arguments. The horrible reality that atheists and religious people sell doesn't exist!. To end the war the discovery that atheism is a logical fallacy has to be news. I am trying to overcome an unjust censorship. Thank you.
Spinoza was an atheist and a pantheist
Spinoza believed the God of his ideas existed. He did not know i.e. have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, that such a god existed. What you refer to as his 'understanding', simply means that he held a particular position of acceptance of a concept of his god in his mind. It doesn't mean that god actually exists, as it's still a claim to faith, as it is not falsifiable any more than spiritual snowdrops exist on Alpha Centauri.
You’re not being censored, you’re just not saying anything original.
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Spinoza was excommunicated from his Jewish community because they believed his concepts were too Atheistic. To monotheists, pantheism is akin to atheism.
Grifter Ehrman. Doesn't know what he's talking about.
You sound mad you been lied to your whole life 😂
@@Allothersweretakenn Hardly. But anyone who's spent years stidying NT historical scholarship knows the extent his grifts are sophomoric oversimplifications and outright lies. Perhaps you don't mind being lied to or even believing lies--practicallyban American tradition--but I've always intensely disliked it. And as an ex-evangelical--which is what he is--his oily demeanor and contrived jocularity pretty much give away his game. Even his reasons for embracing atheism are either intellectually disingenuous, logically dubious or just plain boneheaded.
Check it out.
@@James-ll3jb that’s a lot of claims with no evidence to back them up lmao
Sounds like projection to me bruh
@@Allothersweretakenn Get two advanced degrees in the stuff. I can't babysit you the evidence. I'm not an Ehrman lol!
@@James-ll3jb Interesting how you need two degrees to dodge a conversation. Facts don’t come with a diploma, bruh.
Just cut the crap Bart. Matthew alone was in Aramaic. It was reported to have been accepted by two or three Jewish Christian sects before 40 CE. It was reported to be the collective effort of documentation by the original disciples well before 40 CE. They did not have to write it - chances are good someone volunteered to document it for them, or someone else paid for them to document it. Most of your arguments stem from what the Rabbi said - not what the Christians said. Stop your incessant giggling and get serious sometime. Onediscipletoanother
What is the evidence for this? I've never of any scholar making these claims.
How do you know Matthew was wriiten in Aramaic?Where is it "reported"?
What 2 or 3 sects? And how do you know who those people were or how they saw Jesus?
The only evidence we have doesn't agree with you.
We have surviving gospels, none provide evidence for your arguments
@@mjt532 You will not hear this from current 'scholars' as they depend upon 'peer review' that agrees with other peers. It's based on evidence that they dare not put together - because the evidence exposes the lie, who lied, when they lied, and why they lied. Anyone who is beholden to publishers will not tell the real truth. Much was destroyed and altered before 400 CE - starting before 100 CE by those who believed Paul, and excluding those who they were trying to destroy. See the book "Romans Proves Paul Lied". Evidence is we all have altered texts from Judaism and Christianity - it's overwhelming evidence. The book exposes Romans, covers the Sermon on the Mount from the Hebrew and Aramaic texts pre 160 CE, and the 3000 year old account of the Covenant Standards found in the Shapira scrolls. Noted are high level scholarship from Jewish scholars - Harvard and Oxford - evidence from over 100 years of archelogy to prove the Hebrew accounts are greatly mythologized.
@stephen-f9h The gospel of Matthew was either written in Aramaic or Hebrew. Even Jerome acknowledged this and said the original was still known to be in a certain library. So when was it first said that the gospel of Matthew was originally in Greek?! It's a patent lie. Those from Papias to Jerome say otherwise.
@stephen-f9h Take that up with Andrew Gabriel Roth, who gave us the "Aramaic English New Testament", Papias, and Jerome - as well as Paul Harvey. It's also shown on a chart of the History of the New Testament Canon on my website - on the first page is a link to it. Christian scholarship is WAY behind the Jewish scholars who wrote the books mentioned. "The Origins of Judaism" - just read the chapter: "Conclusions".