osu! - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
  • I've had this idea for a while now, but around 2 months ago I finally decided to put pen to paper. Over the course of the next couple of months, after writing a nearly 7,000 word script and after editing rendition after rendition, I finally finished this project. This video is definitely the hardest I've ever worked on a project, and I really hope it turned out that way.
    LINKS MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO
    1-1000 Hall of Shame: / 1294202843113459717
    1-10000 Hall of Shame: / 1297424675417362433
    SOME OTHER LINKS
    BruhmasterL (I took some pretty heavy inspiration from his long commentary videos): / @bruhmasterl2268
    Antix (one of my friends, motivated me to finish this video): / @its_antix
    FOLLOW MY SOCIALS!
    Twitter: / osubeard
    Twitch: / beard_osu
    TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 - Introduction
    2:43 - The Good
    8:36 - The Bad
    29:58 - The Ugly
    38:56 - Conclusion
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 202

  • @nucularity
    @nucularity 3 роки тому +91

    high effort in all honesty

    • @TheSalami
      @TheSalami 3 роки тому

      Come a long way

    • @wieran35000vr
      @wieran35000vr 3 роки тому +1

      oh hey i hope to see you on the come up for real when you're back

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

    • @treato.3741
      @treato.3741 3 роки тому +1

      GYZE - HONESTY

  • @thotsi
    @thotsi 3 роки тому +228

    please do not normalise the use of the phrase "minor-attracted people"

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +102

      I tried to use the phrase “MAP” to specifically target my attention towards those individuals who go by that term, but it would’ve been better if I just referred to them all as pedos, so my apologies

    • @wieran35000vr
      @wieran35000vr 3 роки тому +28

      I don't think anyone watching this could not pick up on how it was brought up, that being that it's a laughable term. The mere existence of the term just completely exemplifies the way they cower and beat around the bush without saying the quiet part out loud.

    • @4nanaide
      @4nanaide 3 роки тому +3

      I mean, saying "minor-attracted people" doesn't make it sound any better - that's what paedos are; if you think it makes them look better that's completely on you.
      I doesn't have any good connotations whatsoever.

    • @banana_
      @banana_ 3 роки тому +21

      @@4nanaide feels softer, like referring to murderers as "life taking individuals"

    • @rapeofficial
      @rapeofficial 3 роки тому +4

      aw snap man

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +46

    For anyone wondering, ppy isn’t joking. He replies to LITERALLY every tweet and LITERALLY every email.

    • @oceanings
      @oceanings 11 місяців тому

      He didnt reply to my tweet

  • @daninoakamoh
    @daninoakamoh 3 роки тому +84

    that rohulk face is just unforgettable

  • @stinkykitten1026
    @stinkykitten1026 3 роки тому +21

    10:39
    I once played multi with Dialga when he was rank (89?? I think). I later spectated him and watched his replays. All of the plays looked cheated and when I saw him on the Wall of Shame I was mildly pleased.

  • @flashybangy
    @flashybangy 3 роки тому +102

    Osu twitter/reddit is full of schizo 15 year olds with nothing to do but search for drama in a circle clicking game? whats new

  • @lokikaos9942
    @lokikaos9942 3 роки тому +40

    27:01 No way I am on Stephen Clark

  • @vynmo6114
    @vynmo6114 3 роки тому +44

    This is, to say the least, one of the best commentary videos that I've ever seen come out of the osu community and those 2 months of effort show.
    (Below is my long opinion of the video)
    osu is the first game where I actively interacted with the community and what I've learned from my fairly short 1-2 years in here is that we're extremely complicated. But you nailed every single topic that I've witnessed, from the Freddie Benson/Mathi situation whom are among my favorite players then and now, to social media and the relationship between different types of players (which resonated with me because I'm a tech player who also plays DT farm maps), to outsider's association with weebs and MAPs, to the George Floyd collab which was short lived but a real wake-up call. I subscribed immediately after watching, and if my friends were to ask me what the osu community is like, I would recommend this video in a heartbeat.
    On a side note, I was that reddit comment you featured where I said I hoped BadGraph's ban was a false-restriction because he was one of my inspirations as a player; and I think it would be worth mentioning Morgan's ban as a footnote. Mainly because I saw many players go through a similar situation to mine where they were depressed at the fact that a player they looked up to was a cheater. But I understand it would probably be redundant and unnecessary, and it wouldn't really change anything about the video. Keep up the good work and I wish you luck on your future videos!

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +6

      this comment really means a lot to me, thank you so much!!

  • @str0mbol1
    @str0mbol1 3 роки тому +28

    32:20 damn I made that meme about a whole year ago

  • @elviswong687
    @elviswong687 3 роки тому +6

    19:07 don’t worry, everyone is very happy about it

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +3

      some parts of this video have stood the test of time but I'm glad that part hasn't

  • @freneko879
    @freneko879 3 роки тому +4

    This video was really insightful even for me who has been playing for a year. I really appreciate the effort and I hope more people see it

  • @MeowmeowGoose997
    @MeowmeowGoose997 3 роки тому +10

    Excellent video, the amount of effort you put into it really shows :)

  • @NutsDotGov
    @NutsDotGov 3 роки тому +3

    This video is a masterpiece! Nice work!

  • @luxxias
    @luxxias 3 роки тому +6

    14:14 fiery shouldn't even dare to open his goddamn mouth on this subject LMAO

  • @FrenZ396
    @FrenZ396 3 роки тому +74

    This was a pretty good video overall. I recognize and appreciate the two months of work you dedicated to making this is a reality, and it's something I would definitely recommend to people who are looking for a deeper insight about how this community functions and what it's like to participate in it. However, I have some criticisms that I feel like could improve even a video like this. It's essentially going to be a bullet list as I cover each of the topics in the video.
    0:00 - I wouldn't start a 41 minute video with an entire minute of nothing. The introduction is necessary for the video, but you can place something in the background to retain viewer attention. I watched through it because I wanted to hear everything you had to say, but someone who is recommended this by UA-cam might not.
    5:02 - Describing BruhmasterL as a "high-quality content creator" is factually incorrect. It has been proven on multiple occasions that his videos are poorly researched, edited, and written. Videos like his Goodbye Score Progression fail to mention players like Dustice and Bubbleman; The History of idke focuses on his high pp scores instead of some truly ridiculous scores like osu.ppy.sh/b/1745634 +HR and osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/357996#osu/787307 nomod; The Legend of Rafis compares scores set in 2016 to WhiteCat in 2020 when the video is literally about Rafis; and his improvement video all include detrimental mistakes and inaccuracies. Willy's tweet summarizes it well: twitter.com/willyosu/status/1299886479540400131
    5:45 - peppy is a great lead developer and I'm glad you recognized his positive characteristics. I would be cautious of describing him as purely positive though because he has a long history of discarding community input unless under pressure.
    12:00 - I agree that cheaters are people too, but you explicitly described why cheaters have more of an impact on the osu! community than other games only 3 minutes earlier. Players who cheated into the top 1,000 question the legitimacy of every top-level player, and not everyone can handle this immense suspicion.
    14:55 - The difference was Sotarks. Sotarks mapped Monogatari which Mathi had already FCed with HDDT while it was in pending and many people believed he created the map solely for Mathi to get 800 off it. You're correct about Freddie Benson's situation though.
    22:00 - XNOR XNOR XNOR didn't initially win. The only reason it's considered a winner today was from the immense backlash of having only player voting for aspire (Time Traveler won the player vote) and disregarding the mapper's vote. Staff retroactively gave fanzhen the Elite Mapper title and wrote an entire news article about the decision on the front page. Aspire V was also an ENTIRE year late, citing various delays with the administrative team, selecting arguably bad songs, and failing to be taken seriously by higher-ups.
    25:15 - Your tone here makes it sound like Mr. Helix is a genius for thinking of this concept. It's not difficult to make the connection to the song title (Time Traveler) and the concept of the map (rewinding objects).
    25:50 - I've created and ranked a farm map (short version Mynarco) and I can say it can be entertaining to make one. Seeing people achieving high pp/important scores on your maps feels reassuring and motivates you to map more in a similar fashion.
    31:12 - I understand this is a difficult story to tell, but don't be afraid to say it. These events happened, and maintaining a tone where it sounds like you're scared to discuss it does not support your perspective of maturely talking about it in the first place.
    33:01 - One "fuck you" would've made this more impactful. I completely agree with your sentiment here, those people truly are fucked in the head. However, only swearing once or twice really enunciates the message when you've gone 30 minutes without swearing.
    37:00 onward - This feels too general since even though you are featuring the ugly side of the community, not everyone is like that. Please don't generalize the 95% of the community who ridiculed the George Floyd collaboration as people who were complacent about it.
    Everything else you handled well. Thank you for properly researching the topics mentioned in the video, and once again, fantastic job!
    edit: I posted the same map link twice by accident and changed some grammar, fixed

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +23

      Thank you very much for the criticism! It's all noted and I'll try to keep these in mind for my future uploads.

    • @bruhmasterl2268
      @bruhmasterl2268 3 роки тому +50

      "Describing BruhmasterL as a "high-quality content creator" is factually incorrect."
      lol

    • @ketnon
      @ketnon 3 роки тому +8

      @@bruhmasterl2268 While I do believe that you should fact check more, I enjoy your content a lot, your one of the few osu channels I will consistently watch. While whether the information is factually correct is a concern, your edits and voiceover/script is generally well written and still makes me want to watch your videos over other people that are more accurate in their information. Only people that are really invested into the games history will find your videos somewhat unwatchable, but I think most people who don't know too much about the history still enjoy your videos a lot, as it gives them some idea of the past, and if they're interested, they can look into it more.

    • @FrenZ396
      @FrenZ396 3 роки тому +17

      @@bruhmasterl2268 That may have been too harsh reading that back to myself lolol
      I have immense respect for your ability to absorb constructive criticism and improve your content. It's come leaps and bounds since a few months ago and I'm glad you persevered instead of buckling under the pressure. Even though I have openly stated I dislike your videos, your character is astounding. I want to reiterate for others reading that I do not hate BruhmasterL because I took issue with some aspects of his videos. As long as he works diligently to improve them, he'll always be a great content creator.

    • @klarfrl
      @klarfrl 3 роки тому

      @@bruhmasterl2268 2*lol

  • @lufu.3008
    @lufu.3008 3 роки тому +3

    Great video!
    Keep up the good work

  • @MrXAznDude
    @MrXAznDude 3 роки тому +13

    nice video man, I think you're up next to becoming a big osu youtuber

  • @br4ndyaw4l
    @br4ndyaw4l 3 роки тому +21

    MAAAAAAAAAAAN i BEEEEEEEEEN saying akia was cheating for YEARSSS BRUH
    and then i just find out he got banned, gg

    • @wieran35000vr
      @wieran35000vr 3 роки тому +6

      really amazing how he was banned for 6 years then just did it again lmfao

    • @br4ndyaw4l
      @br4ndyaw4l 3 роки тому

      @@wieran35000vr ROFL

  • @ilect1690
    @ilect1690 2 роки тому +3

    the good: 5 minutes
    the bad: 20 minutes

  • @merry7501
    @merry7501 3 роки тому +6

    14:15 the audacity of this man

    • @mech1x
      @mech1x Рік тому

      >boosted by Sotarks
      >sets world record on his own intentionally farmable map

  • @joker1b
    @joker1b 3 роки тому +8

    the smoothie world situation was far more disturbing than rohulks imo (in terms of shock value)
    cant blame you for not including it since virtually nothing comes up when googling it tho

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +2

      i haven't heard about this one... do you mind giving me a brief explanation of what happened?

    • @vnable
      @vnable 3 роки тому

      please explain

    • @joker1b
      @joker1b 3 роки тому +1

      @@StephenClarkOsu oh my reply didn't go through? wtf
      well yeah he did the deed with a dog

    • @mikubrot
      @mikubrot 10 місяців тому

      at least rohulk has shown some remorse for his actions

  • @TicClicky
    @TicClicky 3 роки тому +7

    hi, GMT here. on topic of 37:35, an inappropriate avatar alone is not what gets a player restricted, it's a combination of infringements and/or their severities that does. you can't really compare all three collabs, because the players, and their offense history, are different. as for the George Floyd collab, all parties involved received very extensive silences (~1 month) after an internal discussion has taken place.
    finally, there's always an issue of visibility. if you, or someone else, see something, that doesn't mean GMTs know about it. if you reported something unfitting and nothing happened within a reasonable amount of time, get ahold of any moderator (me, for example) and report to them directly, highlighting the fact that no action was taken.

    • @TicClicky
      @TicClicky 3 роки тому +1

      ironically, the second paragraph of the response is hidden

  • @nailimahK
    @nailimahK 3 роки тому

    Great video! Anyone that watched the whole video can tell you put a lot of work & effort into it. I recently started making videos that requires writing scripts & holy shit it can really be a pain at times.

  • @hifushiri
    @hifushiri 3 роки тому +6

    29:40 When was the last time you saw a player with such aim ability and movement with a tablet? Alex puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Cookiezi breaks records. Rafis breaks records. Azer breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic.

  • @Mooshayy
    @Mooshayy 3 роки тому +3

    This is actually a really fucking nice video!
    I learned that if you try to just focus on just the positive parts of the game instead of the toxic, and ugly parts, you’ll enjoy being in this game/community much more.
    Example, I have made so many new friends, and have met tons of new awesome people.
    Again dude great video, I look forward to new content on this channel 🙏

  • @watr5622
    @watr5622 3 роки тому +9

    39:09 omg thats my score i love u Stephen Osu

  • @YarakaOfficial
    @YarakaOfficial 3 роки тому +7

    Really good video! Watched it till the end and I agree with all the points made. Clearly you can see it took 2 months of hard work to make.
    My personal toxic experience with the community is one that you didn't cover in this video (you kinda did when talking about playstyles). The communities view towards +RX playstyle. I myself started playing the game in maybe 2015 or 2016 I don't know anymore tbh, but at some point I got stuck on tapping. I noticed a trend where I could easily aim 200+ pp maps, but my tapping just wasn't there. After I somehow got an FC on nomod bombs away top diff for like 150pp with ridiculously bad acc it became apparant for me that I either had to train day and night for my left hand to function normally like my right hand can (it's only my left hand that for some reason doesn't want to move), or that osu just wasn't gonna be the game for me (a sidenote to be made here is that I didn't want to make osu my full time game, as I really like playing other games like LoL, Minecraft and others).
    But just before giving up on the game I thought to myself "if I'm telling myself that it's the tapping that's holding me back and not the aim, I might as well prove that to myself..." This is when I started to play +RX. Even though I never made osu my full time game, I can now consistently fc 7* while currently working on my first 8* (I always choke it ; _ ;). For me the game finally became fun again after being able to play maps like the top players do, high speed, big jump maps with fast paced hype songs. For example when I play necro fantasia +DT and I hit those big jumps it feels so cool to feel like budget Rafis for a second. I really like playing osu again now, even if I kind of play only 50% of the game with relax. But here is where the community comes in...
    The opinion people have towards RX players is so fucking disgusting. The only instance where I saw an actual exception is tuna's RXHDDTHR fc on that moisturized tissue map (I'm not counting akatsuki as that community is made of players like me filtered out of the toxic nomod players).
    It's legit so cringe and frustrating to see everything I do get discredited because "it's just RX dude it's not even hard". I legitamately put hundreds of hours (I don't know how much actually but like still a lot for me) into this game to get to the level I'm currently at, with days of training to read ar 10+DT and aim 8* maps. Ofcourse I understand that when someone FCs a 8* nomod it's way more impressive, but the only people who can do that are full time osu gamers at the top of the ladder. I'm never comparing myself to them, as I haven't even put half of their effort into this game. But for some reason people always have to compare players and talk players down. I'm just so sad people can't just take plays and players for what they are themselves, without all of the comparing. Right now there is even a trend unfolding in "WHITEDOABLE" it's just so toxic man...
    I understand RX isn't quite as impressive as nomod, but I just hope that there will be a day where people just let other people enjoy the game the way they like to, without forcing their own playstyle onto them and without comparing everything and talking shit down.
    I wrote this on my phone, so the comment might be kind of messy. If so I'm sorry, I hope I could get my point across. If you read this untill the end, thank you. That really means a lot to me and please comment something if you wanna share your thoughts about this.

  • @schnibba1234
    @schnibba1234 3 роки тому +10

    good video

  • @pinballmanfan
    @pinballmanfan 3 роки тому +8

    really good and high quality video 👍

  • @namakoro_osu
    @namakoro_osu 2 роки тому

    I have literally had a conversation with fiery rage in xootynator stream about streaming I love how people help each other to improve

  • @tarragon111
    @tarragon111 Рік тому +1

    on the contrary when mrekk got #1 the community was extremely happy

  • @Scware
    @Scware 3 роки тому +2

    I find the length of good compared to bad hilarious for some reason

  • @Hanzel06
    @Hanzel06 3 роки тому

    Man what an absolute banger of a video. Cheers mate

  • @sobot_
    @sobot_ 3 роки тому +2

    the size of the bad parts holy shit...

  • @Tonttu2000
    @Tonttu2000 2 роки тому

    why did this come to my recommended after all this time

  • @vaxibtw6372
    @vaxibtw6372 3 роки тому

    rewatching this with mrekk as current #1 osu gamer

  • @resemi_
    @resemi_ 2 роки тому

    this needs more views

  • @leeian
    @leeian 3 роки тому

    Very good video.

  • @shiteyanyo.enjoyer
    @shiteyanyo.enjoyer 3 роки тому +1

    good content

  • @22Titus22
    @22Titus22 3 роки тому +14

    Not that it changes much of the severity of the actions, but just to be clear, the facts regarding the Rohulk situation are mostly summarized and contained in the comments of this reddit post from a few years back: new.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/75nj24/i_havent_been_on_in_a_few_months_could_someone/ , that is if you didnt know about it already.
    Only difference from your summary is that the "pictures" and the "video" weren't sent to the 13 year old girl, but to another 17 year old girl who is also somehow involved in the story. From what I gathered, Rohulk still had some "questionable" exchanges with the 13 year old girl, which he claims were taken out of context, no pics or live performances involved in those exchanges from what I know though.

    • @DeanHerbertMooCow
      @DeanHerbertMooCow 3 роки тому +24

      curious: do other games get videos dedicated to players that turn out to be evil people? does the game and community get labelled as "pedophiles" at large due to the actions of a minority that decided to play the game?
      you'd think with these people being in every community (it's just a rule of numbers) larger games like league would be labelled similarly, no?
      i honestly don't get it. it seems like labelling a whole country as pedophiles because one person living in that country is one? in my opinion making videos and propagating this information has a widespread negative effect that is like, why even do this? what are you getting out of it? i think people just want some reason to validate their hate for something.
      glad this video covered this subject in a good way.

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +9

      @@DeanHerbertMooCow the only two games i can think of with this kind of treatment would be osu!, and as of recently super smash bros. i think it all has to do with more prolific community figures in their respective games being called out for being pedophiles, which as you've already mentioned, doesn't make sense since there are bound to be pedophiles in every game.
      i'm glad you think my video covered it well though, and keep up the good work with osu! it's mindblowing to see you interacting with my humble video, which speaks volumes about your dedication to the community as a whole. thank you for everything!

    • @Gohgo
      @Gohgo 3 роки тому

      @@StephenClarkOsu king shit

    • @warguy6474
      @warguy6474 3 роки тому

      @@StephenClarkOsu smash ultimate*

    • @namgibot
      @namgibot 2 роки тому

      Na I can defo say that vid was sent to the girl. Who isn’t a girl anymore.

  • @okcrw0608
    @okcrw0608 3 роки тому +7

    This community has some really funny memes IMO

    • @AGnar0k
      @AGnar0k 3 роки тому +6

      IMHO the only saving grace of the osu twitter community is the memes
      r/osugame just sucks tho lmao

    • @okcrw0608
      @okcrw0608 3 роки тому +6

      @@AGnar0k i go to r/osubuddyretard
      wonder what that says about my intelligence

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

      @@okcrw0608 don't worry we all a lil dumb to generally on the same scale give or take.
      to some find more ... out there stuff "funny" to major fucked stuff mainly hope normie Twitter don't find that to make usual fuss were bullying and making fun of those on the mentally challenge scale... but your fine most don't know osu or know it at a distance browse on dude

  • @xii8307
    @xii8307 3 роки тому +1

    This video is entirely factual

  • @LyfeMiracle
    @LyfeMiracle 3 роки тому

    How you do you get the rainbow hit circle outlines at 28:00

  • @schwarts8944
    @schwarts8944 3 роки тому

    "certain music tastes"

  • @TH3PLA1NP1L0T
    @TH3PLA1NP1L0T 3 роки тому +1

    I know this isn't related but I find it funny that FlyingTuna's pfp is Colonel Sanders. On a side note, I should go try the spicy chicken there again. Anyway, good video dude

  • @chiv
    @chiv 3 роки тому +5

    Stephen Clark

    • @chiv
      @chiv 3 роки тому +2

      this is a Good video keep it up. I really enjoyed it.

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +1

      @@chiv thank you bossman

  • @lol-uh7oj
    @lol-uh7oj 3 роки тому +1

    Regarding James and dawnsday being banned for a controversial collaboration, I think that was mainly due to the fact that they had a really bad history and where on "restriction probation" which meant the staff was much less lenient toward them. I think controversial collaborations usually only end in a silence

  • @YarakaOfficial
    @YarakaOfficial 3 роки тому

    I'm not even a hater but looking back at it freddies #1 overtake REALLY was underwhelming. Like it's such a massive accomplishment and a big fucking GG but I always forget he even got #1 and there just isn't a single memory of it left while having it with all the other #1's since rafis'

  • @hybrid3888
    @hybrid3888 3 роки тому

    we have content creators aside from top players such as: bruhmasterl as we ve talked before, BTMC ...
    i m dying xD

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +1

    “Similar music tastes”
    *shows haitai*
    Aight

  • @nucularity
    @nucularity 3 роки тому +10

    lol

  • @Crankycarcar
    @Crankycarcar 3 роки тому

    Why was the area he put in the video as an example for discord where I live

  • @fitness_indonesia
    @fitness_indonesia 3 роки тому

    14:01 i love how he wrote "whitecat - everthing" lol

  • @neige3393
    @neige3393 3 роки тому +2

    One of the main reasons people were upset with Mathi was because Sotarks and Mathi were messaging each-other about having the maps "adjusted" to Mathi's skill-level.
    twitter.com/XII_osu/status/958882871078465537

    • @Elitist
      @Elitist 2 роки тому

      It was definitely really cringe to hate on that anyway ngl. Sotarks circlejerk just taken too far.

  • @markoivanovic1965
    @markoivanovic1965 3 роки тому

    As soon as I heard name Rohulk, i thought this is going to be messy.

  • @waterbottle2047
    @waterbottle2047 3 роки тому

    Bro I wondered what hapoened to rohulk and yaong...

  • @CesiIIia
    @CesiIIia 3 роки тому +1

    I'm a little late but damn nice work on this, really sums us up as a community. I personally don't really fanboy over top players anymore but when I see someone get 1 digit who just knows how to play basic pattern farm maps that exploit the system literally and they pass people that have poured hundreds of hours into the game playing insane read maps that no one else can do because they're super hard ofc I'm not going to be happy with that shit but I'm not going to give them hate for it, it's up to them how they play the game but the fact the system is so flawed to let this sort of thing happen is what's annoying... Reading can be calculated it'll just take a lot of fucking effort and probably would need some sort of AI to understand how humans see the game what probably won't happen so I just can't see those players the same as people who have put the real hard work in. I know it may have taken a lot to get there but I'm sure it doesn't compare to the journey of someone like Wubwoofwolf who literally replayed his maps all the time to get his insane reading and consistency to where it is, but ofc that's nothing compared to a 50 second jump map that someone could farm a few times and get like 800 PP. What happened man... It's actually so depressing. I still understand that getting your skills ahead of the competition is impressive though and deserves respect. But as a read player it's just so sad. Again amazing video! Had a bit to drink so sorry if my shit doesn't make sense.

  • @Tshyld
    @Tshyld 3 роки тому +1

    600th sub

  • @coolstuffgaming
    @coolstuffgaming 3 роки тому

    Didn't know that about Yaong 😬

  • @SinjoroMoseo
    @SinjoroMoseo 3 роки тому +1

    kind of crazy to find out that one of those players in the george floyd collab is a friend who got me into osu! after the collab happened, he is actually a cool dude and I haven't faced any type of discrimination or too-edgy humor by him and I think he learned his lesson from that collab, took me 5 months to find out why he was restricted from bancho the time when I logged into osu!
    anyway, great video, and what happens in osugame when it comes to opinions is kind of the same for other gaming subreddits, r/fortnitebr for example bashes against pro players and "sweats" yet upvote posts that say "stop hating on good players"
    even after all of these events, I personally think the osu community is great

  • @Meltiis
    @Meltiis 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know the skin at 27:56?

  • @LynVA
    @LynVA 3 роки тому +5

    hi stephen

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +1

      Hey best Canadian player

    • @LynVA
      @LynVA 3 роки тому +1

      @@StephenClarkOsu h-hey :flushed:

  • @Coppertine_
    @Coppertine_ 2 роки тому +1

    I think you forgot about mtmtc who groomed Mismagius and sent legit cp (or it was a different situation) whilst Mismagius was under-age at the time. (Iirc, I might be wrong on some/all parts)
    Also, with Aspire, I remember that the year before thought the storyboard gymmic was oversaturated (don't get me started on the Labor of Love contest winner)
    As well, a lot of people did not like MopeMope was that another map that was like XNOR XNOR XNOR XNOR (pronounced X Nor) called Flashbacklog got disqualified. So people tried to get it loved. But due to an all out war with Goodbye Moonmen in loved voting, both maps did not make it to loved.
    Also, I've been involved or watched over the countless mapping drama but I don't think negatively for the entire community because of it. People's opinions of maps change over time and now maps like Ehgze have now become a part norm in mapping.

  • @omegaorigins9917
    @omegaorigins9917 3 роки тому +2

    my favorite genre of music is uhhhhh haitai

  • @Spencer1404evo
    @Spencer1404evo 3 роки тому

    😩🙏high effort😩🙏

  • @vastly
    @vastly 3 роки тому +2

    Yeah, as a person put through the wringer on osu! Twitter (and even suspended currently #FreeVastly) over my opinions i think this sums up the community all too well. Edgy angsty teens that think that being generally shitty humans to others just over a difference of opinion seems odd to me. It quite literally is like politics, theres a "wrong side" and you'll be mauled my the other for simply saying you believe something to be true regardless if you're wrong or if you turn out to be right. Opinions are points for discussion and if you disagree with someone discuss it, dont be cringe and weird about it and block people and try and cancel them. Anyways, this was a good video, bit on the lengthy side but for its quality i didnt notice 40 minutes went by, thats how you know a video is enjoyable. Best of luck on growing ♡

  • @amnezija2
    @amnezija2 3 роки тому +2

    Whats the skin from conclusion?

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому +1

      www.dropbox.com/s/i3slpdnju7oyzol/MonkoKamui.osk?dl=0

    • @amnezija2
      @amnezija2 3 роки тому +1

      @@StephenClarkOsu thx

  • @neotopisch494
    @neotopisch494 2 роки тому

    19:04 Good call Mrekk is #1 lets go

  • @awesomeboxlord
    @awesomeboxlord 2 роки тому

    great video, and compared to how people at my school reacted to osu last year compared to in 2016 is much better, in 2016 when people found out i played osu at my school i was constantly seen as a dumb lonely weeb who does nothing but watch hentai because of it; granted if i mentioned it today some people would still probably think that but due to the game becoming way bigger and having more amazing osu creators that reputation is subsiding (as really the only good osu creator that was popular at the time was wubwoofwolf)

  • @MichaelEhrmantraut12
    @MichaelEhrmantraut12 3 роки тому

    Look at the top right part 11:52 eZHG is WhiteCat's old username
    Was this just some blunder or did someone else take the name after he got unbanned?
    Is that even possible?

  • @DK-tp2rv
    @DK-tp2rv 3 роки тому

    whats the skin for the good section?

  • @mercamia
    @mercamia 3 роки тому +1

    14:36 At that time, someone FCd Necro Fantasia before Rafis, few months later it's only Rafis who have actually FCd it
    19:19 Also I'm on a video bruh, kinda regret it tbh
    Ngl this video sums up the entire community perfectly, absolute great job

    • @StephenClarkOsu
      @StephenClarkOsu  3 роки тому

      it was totoki, who i'm pretty sure got banned for cheating so i'm not sure exactly how legitimate his fc was

    • @mercamia
      @mercamia 3 роки тому

      @@StephenClarkOsu Yeah he was considered DT god at that time, idk why all of his scores were not wiped after he got unbanned, his ban was unexpected and his unban was unexpected as well

    • @kipposu
      @kipposu 3 роки тому +4

      @@StephenClarkOsu considering totoki's top play is now phineas and ferb turtle unicorn dt 600 pp, it's safe to say its cheated

  • @schwarts8944
    @schwarts8944 3 роки тому

    11:38 bruh

  • @xazin-
    @xazin- 2 роки тому

    i come from the future and mreek is number 1

  • @ufjdndncwj7470
    @ufjdndncwj7470 3 роки тому

    Mathi and Freddie Benson do be getting hate tho (btw this video was really good)

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

      shame all down play a underrated player who maybe has a good day for getting pp to then "omg it not whitecat, vaxei, or WWW etc score bad get fucked" or you end up on r/osureport by some whitecat fan boy god this game is major Pepaga.
      to the bias of when tuna uses relax to get's praise but most apparently who end up on gloomshot osu "ugh relax don't care lame" and so on ffs!

    • @ufjdndncwj7470
      @ufjdndncwj7470 3 роки тому

      @@M4TTYN I agree with you and I believe that no one can argue against this opinion (unless you are a whitecat/www wannabe)

  • @kaitokast
    @kaitokast 3 роки тому +1

    Well, so much things to say...
    Resume:
    Dont go on twitter, because is the most toxic social media, so just ignore every post;
    Crimes around racism and pedo stuff dont come only with our game;
    If u are upset about the map creators, do your map instead and see how difficult it is;
    Report cheaters and make our game more clean;
    PP farm or Not PP farm attention - Everyone just play for fun, even if we play to rank up!

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +2

    Getting upset at profile pictures
    2021 moment.
    Other than basic morals, is there any rules regarding osu! pfps?

  • @mr_cat5141
    @mr_cat5141 2 роки тому

    29:31 Im ashamed to share the same username with that person

  • @zepphaneus1334
    @zepphaneus1334 2 роки тому

    wheres vaxei in the number 1 thing

  • @kaylify635
    @kaylify635 2 роки тому

    Stephen: The osu community isn't that bad
    Also Stephen: *Proceeds to show 21 minutes of the osu community being bad*

  • @lifvsleda6091
    @lifvsleda6091 3 роки тому +4

    trol

  • @a-linn
    @a-linn 3 роки тому

    o

  • @xforce6213
    @xforce6213 3 роки тому

    Mer C really got popular huh?

  • @samfifty
    @samfifty 3 роки тому +3

    727 likes

  • @beachturkey7643
    @beachturkey7643 3 роки тому

    reddit and twitter is why you shouldn't have democracy in conversation

  • @schwarts8944
    @schwarts8944 3 роки тому

    I think Lifeline's hate was from him being so polarized to HDDT, and his tournament practice being not so great. Although both of those things very much so arent true, people will believe whatever they want

    • @AGnar0k
      @AGnar0k 3 роки тому +1

      why are we even hating in the first place lmao

    • @schwarts8944
      @schwarts8944 3 роки тому

      AGnar0k yea I agree hating on players for clicking circles wrong is pretty cringe

    • @AGnar0k
      @AGnar0k 3 роки тому

      @@schwarts8944 there's not even an objective wrong way to click circles lol
      just "wrong" in someone's head

    • @schwarts8944
      @schwarts8944 3 роки тому

      AGnar0k I intended to say that, it just came out wrong. Some people care too much about how others play the game :/

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

      @@AGnar0k usual ppl just prob sad shige gone, whitecat isn't stream, vaxei isn't on and don't want someone to beat whitecat.
      so fucking odd he's chill to always nice to see a rising star come up.
      further more, we all clicking circles to the beat! i don't get it

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +1

    Fuck, I didn’t know osu gameur was cheating :(

  • @zhambalzambulaev8532
    @zhambalzambulaev8532 2 роки тому

    dont tell me that mathi wasnt as dominant as rafis lol. he could easily be nr1 for a looooong time if he didnt get flamed by community to the point of quitting.

  • @alyssaa-
    @alyssaa- 2 роки тому

    19:08 that didnt age well

  • @CooOOookiez
    @CooOOookiez 3 роки тому +1

    tldr?

    • @thotsi
      @thotsi 3 роки тому

      we were mean to mathi and osu has pedos

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому +1

      @@thotsi correction: many down play rising player who ain't the general favs, fan boys will strongly since your not shige (Cookiezi) WWW, Rafis, BTMC, Koa (damn he's cute) now whitecat (god i see too many fan boy accounts) Vaxei, mrekk.
      Usual opinions go as you'd expect with osu! events, mapping, mapping meta, hot takes, osu! Twitter things, osu! drama and so on.
      Those who down played Freddie benson and mathi getting No.1 cause "reasons" then rohulk and yaong controversies which aren't keen to just osu! but all games more strongly to games with large young player bases (minecraft, roblox, fortnite) as we known.
      Then, many just go off the loli or 1000 year old demon thing who are on map BG's or see a usual weeb with lots of anime on their skin most will stem from outsiders to a slight bit of difference where your from in japan loli and that is kinda normal (am i wrong? right?) i say 50% 50% but as you can count so many on prevalent and popular anime im very much so prob right! *insert FBI open joke here*
      TLDR: usual game tho niche, got usual issues, hot takes, opinions with having a game of players from all over it's still striving to find a general fair with it's community as time progresses.
      go ppy!

  • @swiva2088
    @swiva2088 3 роки тому

    osu is good, people are bad.

  • @zybrigayte
    @zybrigayte 3 роки тому

    when see you it 727th liker poger

  • @noodlesharvester7282
    @noodlesharvester7282 Рік тому

    yikes...

  • @saxarok5376
    @saxarok5376 3 роки тому +4

    George Floyd collab is actually really funny tho

    • @xodiejsjaokz
      @xodiejsjaokz 3 роки тому

      so you sayin someone gettin choked and usin it as their pfp is funny ?🤔

    • @saxarok5376
      @saxarok5376 3 роки тому +3

      @@xodiejsjaokz He died because of drugs.

    • @xodiejsjaokz
      @xodiejsjaokz 3 роки тому

      @@saxarok5376 huh?

    • @saxarok5376
      @saxarok5376 3 роки тому +3

      @@xodiejsjaokz Floyd could not breathe because he had ingested a lethal dose of fentanyl and, possibly, a speedball. In the police camera recording he started saying that he couldn't breathe even before they forced him on the ground.

    • @xodiejsjaokz
      @xodiejsjaokz 3 роки тому

      @@saxarok5376 that's cap cuh

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 роки тому +1

    osu! anonymous is great. It’s exactly what the internet used to be and it is so much better that way.

  • @prodexset
    @prodexset 3 роки тому

    mad cause bad

  • @raflipurwanto
    @raflipurwanto 3 роки тому

    Mrekk will never beat whitecat, the only one who can beat him is merami

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

      your counting off the young prodigy mrekk out too early when he can rise above as we all can.
      mrekk just gotta fine tune finger control, aim, not choke, and so on but he's doing fine as is!

    • @mech1x
      @mech1x Рік тому

      💀

  • @thesaltyspoon7483
    @thesaltyspoon7483 3 роки тому +2

    Your own emotional instability really blinds me from the points you try to convey. You're really not the best narrator for an objective view in the osu community when you're so easily agitated during the negative sections. Please keep this in mind for the future.

  • @williamwetton2477
    @williamwetton2477 3 роки тому +1

    33:00 - 33:14 you managed to offend me 3 times there

  • @Marquipuchi
    @Marquipuchi 3 роки тому +3

    sounds like someone is mad

    • @taylorandersen7216
      @taylorandersen7216 3 роки тому

      hey bbg

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN 3 роки тому

      a formulated, scripted piece on a niche game with high's lows and usual fair as with most community but yea someone is "mad" i guess

    • @Marquipuchi
      @Marquipuchi 3 роки тому +1

      @@M4TTYN looks like yore mad too