The TRUTH About Used Trucks - ETS2 1.49 Update
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Euro Truck Simulator 2 now has used trucks, but are they any good? Let's find out as we uncover the truth about used trucks in the ETS2 1.49 update. We'll be driving the cheap Renault Magnum I bought in the last video on a difficult journey through the Swiss Alps!
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I love the game is becoming more and more realistic. They can now even scam you
Haha yes 😂
Welcome to Honest Warjo's slightly used Trucks. May i interest you in this prime speciment of a Renault POS? It may have come with only a one gear, but with a minor price of 166k we can easily fix it for you!
@@DarkWarjo POS? No such thing over at Honest Warjo's! Here at Honest Warjo's, we handpick only the finest trucks with a complete service history just for you. They come with a five year or 5000 km warranty (whichever comes first).
LOL
No way that truck survived that crash
If that is the first step for re-worked economy - I am in.
Drop the freight prices by like 80% like they should be, and suddenly 15k 1.6 mil Renault makes sense.
Waiting for the next steps.
There should def be a "hard mode" but for now there are economy mods.
I also want a proper dynamic economy. So it’s not just medical vaccines every delivery.
That's why I've created a mod that does that and some other things. Income 15% of what we have nowadays and with a owned truck around 20%... and even so, the economy in this game is easy..
@@OtavioGabriel81 whats the name?
@@JohnDoe-du7hb don't have it published.. for now it is for personal use only =S
It's a cool feature, but still kinda sad that one can't buy the "older" truck in their respective dealers anymore
If it is a mod you can via the moddealer.
If an old model is in one of the garages, another old model can be bought new using My Fleet Configuration.
This must be my favourite ets2 video I’ve ever watched, as a suggestion I think you should try and find a DAF xf on the used market because their engines are quite weak at its smallest but great video.
Glad you enjoyed it 😄 Thanks for the suggestion on the truck, I love DAFs 😎
1:15 They must've changed something since you uploaded this video, because I tried exactly that on my Renault with almost 40% (yes, really) transmission wear, and it worked. My truck went from having 10 gears to 12, as it should.
Hmmm interesting
Maybe a bug or and oversight that's since been corrected
@@thearousedeunuch maybe because his swap was for the same transmission, just with a retarder. Maybe the game considers ithe price as just added the equipment for that feature. Or it was just buggy.
Our drivers are already complaining because of the broken used truck, but when I use this, it's just fine, just a lot of start engines but it still runs smoothly. The condition is even 3 stars
I got a DAF XF105 for 28k, it had like 20% permanent wear, but the parts were in good condition, 0 to 5% wear. It served me well, and other than making weird sounds from time to time, nothing ever failed in it. The truck paid for itself in just two deliveries, and a few thousand kilometers later was traded in for a brand new MAN TGX, giving a 27k discount which is almost the same price i bought it for... now the DAF is gone, but it won't be forgotten.
I mean, i never had so much fun watching someone play ETS 2 :D. I mean broken Renault on Swiss Pass is just golden combo. :D
I mean, WEB Cam on your setup, nicely edited gameplay, nice commentary, just love it. Liked and Subbed. ❤ Keep it up 👍
Next tip for a truck is Iveco. :D Pretty sluggish and as a used truck, that could be fun. :D
Glad you enjoy it! That means a lot 😁 Thanks for the suggestion of an Iveco, not a brand I've driven a lot so it could be interesting!
You should try getting the old DAF XF105
Would be challenging cuz i always see the engines that are under 400 hp
That would be a cool challenge 😃
@@SimulatorAdventures maybe even more challenging around innsbruck in austria
I once used Hino Super Dolphin mod with 200ps, hauling 30ton iirc
Needless to say, too slow
@@bitelaserkhalifwhere u get that truck? I wish to see a Japanese truck in the game
@@irfanyxp3489 search for "Hino Super Dolphin by TszHo"
I have had zero issues with used trucks so far. Even got some really high milage (mod for accurate prices and milage used) with decent condition. Nothing that part replacement couldn't fix. Just a check engine and bad mpg every once in a while
Why you would get used trucks if you already have one ¿?
@@Djmaxofficial Because the one I want is only avalible in the Used Trucks Dealarship. and if you're wondering, it's the Stralis AS from IVECO
@@DjmaxofficialOld models (FH Classic, Streamline, Actros, Stralis, etc.) are no longer sold in truck dealers.
Also, a cheap way to procure an employee's trucks, assuming none of the wear exceeds 20℅.
It increases realism don’t get a truck in bad state but if you do that creates a good possibility of doing a restoration project of the old and broken truck i picked a Mercedes actros in a bad state i replaced all parts added some costumization cabin acessories recently i changed the tryres of the truck to michelin branded as i got the dlc
I would like to see a lease program similar to the new vehicle purchase and borrowing from the bank...it will give beginning with a new driver a little different way of starting a career.
That's a great idea, although some could argue that's basically what you're doing when you work for other companies.
We already have that function, when we borrow money from the bank
10% of the fuel consumption is fine?! A more realistic number would be 60% of that number, but if you choose the right gearbox and driving style, you can get to 50%.
I’ve bought the same truck you did but for £30,000 in better condition and it holds up pretty well for the price
In ETS2 they don't seem worth it at all. For a semi-decent truck it would have cost me $90k + around $10-15k in repairs right away (not an overhaul).
My restarted profile, I just bought a new Renault T which cost me around $120k.
In ATS however, used trucks are worth it. Restarted my profile, bought a Western Star 5700xe for $20k, + 8K in repairs. Then upgrades cost me around $40k (better engine etc.).
You deleted your file?
It is worth it in ETS2, though. Just look for a three-star truck, then check that none of the parts exceed 20℅. I got a drivable Volvo FH Classic for 30k.
not sure if every1 know it yet but if you owned the used truck that got removed from the dealer, you can buy a brand new using "my fleet" option. So yeah, you can always get a fresh renault magnum if you own it.
Probably they leaved this feature for a while, maybe for those who want to collect old trucks in new condition, and it in future updates this ability will be removed
I find the used trucks quite handy for filling up my existing garage spaces. Extra drivers on the road means extra money 🤷♂️
i got my truck for like 115k and like 10k of upgrades (might spend like 60k to make it a 6 wheeler and do engine and transmittion upgrades) and i buy cheap iveco trucks for 92k and give them to my super happy and well payed employees
Yep,it is a total failure..I bought an used truck and the engine had 35% damage..I fixed the engine and it now has 0% damage but it keeps stalling every 3 minutes..In reality if an engine is at 0% damage it would work regardless of the condition of the other parts of the truck..
Yeah it makes no sense, and they force you to do the super expensive total restoration! This is just the Devs being mean to us 😜
The Mix of VR juts makes this game more fun - I have yet to buy a wheel petal and shifter set but also want a vr headset now Bruh
I'm a bit confused as to why you bought a 1-star truck thinking a small price fix would make a difference, when the game quite literally tells you anything AT 3 stars or below is basically undriveable....Sounds like user error to me.
I unironically think that's a 10/10 concept. Part of the vehicle owning experience for me includes all the headaches of getting an old used one. I loved that gran turismo let you do that, but in a game with maintenance and mechanics elements like ETS2 it's even better. Though having to fully refurbish the truck to fix one issue sounds weird.
In 1.50, use trucks can absolutely have parts like the transmission purchased and fix the previous problems without having to do a total restoration.
I haven't seen anyone talking about this mod lately, but I believe I have discovered that the trucks available is dependant on your location. In one day, I went from a smallish town and had about 6 or 7 trucks to choose from, to a fairly large city and had a complete new array of trucks to choose from. All the trucks were different. I play ATS, so I think it varies not only by city, but by state.
This is not a mod it's in the vanilla game now.
Imagine only paying 5k for a Truck 😂
Tbh, i just replace motor and gearbox, mostly i buy a new one and more powerful one as it is only 2/3K more and then the truck works perfectly fine
Edit : also it's nice because the old daf and the old volvo is in the used truck dealer
Can only say ONE thing Truck and Logistic Simulator will be a big concurrent for ETS and ATS I was waiting for a game like this and its promising to be good
Truck & Logistics is definitely a better than a lot of trucking games apart from ETS and ATS. However, SCS Software really need a bigger competitior because right now I think these games are starting to stagnate.
I've only ever bought really good condition trucks from the used section, but even that is something to be careful of- one I looked at, a good spec Mercedes Actros with 30k miles, was actually slightly more expensive than it would have been brand-new- 212k euros vs 204k from the Merc dealer. I ended up taking the barely-run-in, about-10%-off-list-price Daf instead and found it to be excellent
Man, I am glad i can counter that bullshit with mods. I dont play for full realism, fun is more important for me. And you know, since I payed for all these trucks when I bought the game, removing the trucks (as a new & capable model and not a 2nd hand!) is unacceptable. Not to mention that it has nothing to do with realism, because as much as it is a Simulator, 2nd hand market is not a thing that should be forced on everyone. If someone needs that over excessive realism, that you cant get half of the trucks "new" anymore, but have to buy "2nd" hand now, thats fine. They should make that optional. First rule in games. If you want to make many players not happy with changes, rename to something like Activison or EA. But basically remove content (doesnt matter what you call it, its taking away options!) that without the use of Mods I cant get back, that sucks.
Old models can still be bought new via My Fleet Configuration.
@@dbclass4075 lucky enough, there are several mods that make all that work as before.
How often do the used trucks change in the used truck dealer? I always seem to end up with the same ones?
Bought a used Volvo and it was trash, by the time you pay to repair it you could almost buy a new one.
Every couple of days in game, and it depends on if you've discovered at least one dealer from each manufacturer to see the whole lot. The used trucks are mostly discontinued models that aren't made IRL anymore like the Magnum
i bought a 35k Actros thinking i made a good deal, drove and the truck went fine. Gave to an employee to work and i discovered they dont work in used trucks without the complete repair. The fully repair cost the same price as a new one lol. Or i did something wrong idk, im still discovering the update
Yep, that's basically how it works. There are just too many downsides to used trucks unfortunately.
@mauriziocorradi1598They will refuse to drive trucks with ≥30℅ permanent wear.
I have no problem buying used trucks and giving them to my employee. But I only buy minimum 4 star
@@tuono.thierry I take it further in checking the permanent wear is ≤5%.
@@dbclass4075 Does it make a difference for your workers? I mean, they just need a Truck, they won't break down or have any problems driving with a slightly damaged chassis or an engine thats a bit low on power , right? I havent done any tests but my best driver drives a 4 star Magnum with 750k km on it
That's why Premium and Magnum is "end of support" to this game and become to used truck
The used trucks are useful for the beginning, you can buy a truck with 30-40 000 dollars and fix it for like 12-20 000, and use it for 3/4 jobs (you will recover most of the money u invested in it so fast) or, you can buy them fix them and give them to employees,
Just seeing this... vid, imo they should have Taking some ideas from their old 18 wheels of steel games when it comes to Used trucks
Not the prices to buy said trucks, that actually seems really good in this game, but for repairing the trucks? It defeats the purpose of a used vehicle.
I feel mega old talking about the 18 wheels of steels series... man i wonder how many people even remember it haha
Yes it's a pretty bad system at the moment. I do remember 18 wheels of steel and that's how I got started on trucking games and sim games in general 😎
@@SimulatorAdventuresi do have hope they will fix it, even if it ends up years later as usual ahaha
sheeeeesh
well worn renault magnum | Asiimov
I bought Used Iveco and International in ETS2 and ATS and they work just fine
If the economy was anywhere near close to realistic, this would all be a lot more plausible, a lot more sensible, and far more common.
Great video! what do you use for eyetracking / head movement?
I'm using TrackIR 5 with Track Clip Pro, although I've just switched to a custom wireless version of the headset tracking clip I bought off Etsy.
This video is the perfect example of the sentence “no shit”
Try the Volvo that has about 50k to 80k
So even if you put a brand new transmission in you still have damage? I'm pretty sure that's not how that works irl. Seeing as this is a simulator.
Yeah that's correct. It's a pretty dumb system!
@@SimulatorAdventures maybe gear 11-12 didnt work because of the engine damage? you know the gearbox might be fixed but the engine just cant use them becasue its broken aswell
@@christianwagner7230 that could be it. I didn't know that engine damage affected it!
@@SimulatorAdventures it's just a guess but it wouldn't suprise me
Might it be possible that the SUM of all damages define wether the engine stalls/shifter not working or not? For example: zero damage at all except the cabin has 70% -> engine stalls because of total damage. That would really be stupid.
Just a thought. Cheers, Rodriguez Faszanatas
Just now i bought a 1 star truck for experimenting and to have more money. It was also a renault
I wish they would add this too ATS
They are! It will come in the next update for that game as well ☺️
It's up to you to buy a very cheap 1-star truck and do a total restoration or buy a 5-star truck directly
Im doing a profile with only trucks that are not on the dealers (used trucks, older models) and if you wait for a good deal you can get an amazing truck for less than 60k to start, even less, and after that if you want to go with the business model and add drivers you can get them trucks that are 30k and they are happy with them doing absurd amounts of money that pay up the used trucks in no time.
yeah, i bought a used Mercedes New Actros for maybe 50k
engine made funny noises, but i put 50,000 km on it before trading it for a new Scania
great deal on a solid truck.
These used trucks are great when using realistic economy. With the quick jobs you get €60 most of the time and very little xp. And it takes ages to be able to get a loan of 100k. So the used trucks are great if you get lucky with a truck that doesn’t cost to much but alright condition like 3 stars. I bought a Renault premium, a truck that I would never buy and it is a shitbox but I’ve learnt to love it.
6 liters ... bro did u ever sit in a truck ? :D
The problem with old trucks are the interiors who remained in 2012
Used trucks are good for your fleet drivers
They are great for my employees!
They good how they are its realistic you cant buy old trucks for new at a dealer anymore and used trucks are well used and broken often so obviously if you want an old model you need to restore and for sure thats expensive its like same for Cars in the real world if you want to have a new like old car you need a restoration and that often cost more then the cars worth .
Thank you a lot for this video :D
Stupid question : What is the impact of the permanent wear on the vehicle if you don't fix it (by total restoration).
It doesn't seem attached to specific parts but only to the truck (chassis?) iteself, so I wonder how it shows/acts, if you don't fix it.
Permanent wear affects vehicle parts when it gets to 15 or 20%. For example this truck cannot use gears 11 and 12. Engine power is also reduced for engine wear and things like grip and braking distance are changed for the tires. The biggest issue I've found is that it counts as actual damage, and you can't quick travel if you have permamanent wear. Also it costs minimum 100k to remove permament wear on most trucks!
@@SimulatorAdventures Nice! Thank you for the details!
I'll go back grieving thr cheap Ivecos for my fleet 😂
No problem! Glad you enjoyed the video 🤩
@@SimulatorAdventures Also, employees will refuse to drive trucks with ≥30℅ permanent wear.
Renault Magnum, Premium, Scania R Euro 5, MAN TGX old model, DAF XF105, Iveco Stralis (not Hi-way) and even Volvo FH16 must be all of them on used truck dealers and not in showroom anymore since they are no longer also produced several years ago haha.
At least it wasn't like my Kenworth T680 duty cabin that I bought in ATS. 1.3 million miles and only gears 1 to 5 worked and its engine was malfunctioning left and right. The reason why you couldn't get gears 11 and 12 is because you probably didn't map your shifter correctly. But otherwise great video mate
Gears 11 & 12 work fine in other trucks, it's not my shifter. I just don't think it's a very realistic way of portraying wear and tear on a truck.
@@SimulatorAdventures Oh ok but great video anyways 👍
@@WayneKerr69420 Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Used trucks are actually OP. You just shouldn't drive them yourself.
Give them to AI drivers, what their truck is has zero game impact. So used trucks actually brought variety to your fleet, because before the optimal was to put them all on the cheap Iveco. Now you just give them whatever is cheapest at the time
Thanks for the tip!
Tip: when buying used trucks for yourself and for your drivers, check that none of the percentages are ≥20%.
not sure if yall now this for ets and ats Im not too sure the used truck dealer is used to get cheaper trucks and older trucks older truck cant be bought new that use of the used truckdealer
Old models can be bought new using My Fleet Configuration.
Your sound effects are absolutly hilarious.
My sound effects? 😹
@@SimulatorAdventures Yeah like your commentary and outbursts 🤣🤣
@@nnedi5971 Oh I see 😹 Thanks
I make sure it's at least a 3 star, and give them to my other drivers. Works great. Much cheaper.
And if you get the odd truck that they can't drive, just sell it back and buy another.
I would love to make the renault driving hight alot higher cause makes u king of the road interms of driving hight
if you annoying damage, try no damage mod.
I bought a used truck , gave it to an employee. BOOM -82k€ , because somehow it cost 333€ /1km to operate the truck for the driver for one fucking trip. I was so pissed, sold the truck and fired the employee 😂
5 star used truck not that bad
Just change the wheel
For some reason used truck use most expensive wheel, idk why
Dirt Rally would suit your style of driving a vehicle so much better...
You're not wrong 😹
2024 may 14 time was 1.50 update released.
You do not have to make a restoration on the truck, just click in the box where you choose what you want to repair
Oh if that were true 😜 That's not how it works for used trucks, they all come with permanent wear which is impossible to fully remove without total restoration
@@SimulatorAdventures yes i figured it out after i wrote the comment😝 you can repair them so that they will still be reasonably whole, but not so that everything will be like new without restoring the truck😅
It's a ridiculous system, I hope they change it 😞
You can open your windows! Bru that.s so cool.
Took like 12 jobs i dodnt need to buy the used truck but like old like it when the truck is a bit cranky
Why are used trucks useless ?
There are used trucks with 5 stars wich don’t have any issues but they are way cheaper than brand new.
Found the issue: it's a renault.
I mean buying a truck with 1.6 million km,witch is just about a million miles ,isnt the best idea
i bought a used scania r with 45k on the clock in this game and managed to get it full operational and it was only 85k to buy , i am on the way to save up to full kit it out
i tried with a volvo F16 700 hp 4 stars, on a similar route that involved passing the alps and had 3 full breakdowns and i ended up being late with the goods, so i sold that too and bought a new one instead
The star rating is a bit misleading. Pay more attention to permanent wear. Some trucks have 4-star ratings for almost no part wear, but high permanent wear.
what mods do you use and what wheel and shifter do you use?
The only mod in this video is SiSL's route advisor, and I have a Logitech G27
@@SimulatorAdventures ok thanks!
@@SimulatorAdventuresthe G27 seems to be discontinued, do you know if there is anywhere you can still buy it, or one like it
There's none new but they're always sold on eBay used. Or you could get the later G29 which is still produced but doesn't include a shifter
@@SimulatorAdventures oh ok! if i have to buy shifter separate how much in total should spend on both shifter and wheel?
Well you taught me some interesting things about used truck as well as new trucks no longer selling the older builds :( which disappointed me a lil renault magnum has always been my favorite truck ever since i was a child haha and now i cant even get one brand new damn it. i did enjoy the video though was very entertaining.
Yeah I am new to the game and every used truck i've had was crap so now I got only new trucks, Mercedes for me and scanias for my two workers xdd
did he use VR? how the F did he move the camera while both hand on Steering wheel?
go for the ABSOLUTE cheapest that you can find at the used trurk dealers and do a job whit it whitout repairing the truck
Never go to Zurich , Switzerland to a service. They god damn expensive, probably the most expensive in the world. They suck :D
In game as well as real life???
@@SimulatorAdventures In real life Zurich is most expensive in the world. More expensive than Dubai for example.
Used truck's are cool but need to fix a lot of things first you buy one for example if you change tyre's, gearbox or change the engine this has to be like new but once you do it still the same I buy one fix all the engine parts only have tires and cabin to fix and still give me engine problems
It's not worth getting a used truck unless it's a 5/5 in condition. Any less and you'll spend over 200k to restore it so you may as well just buy a new truck.
50 l/100km is too much? my truck is like 150 l/100km
How can you shift 2 gears at once because I can only shift 1 gear I have the Logitech G29 steering wheel
You can choose the "splitter" gearbox option in the settings. That shifts 2 gears at once and you can flip between either 2 gears in the same position with another button
@@SimulatorAdventures Ah ok thank you 😊
@@Raphael-vh1wv No problem!
3:26 oh my gyatt!!! 🍑
I found an interesting money trick in this used truck Business, you can get lot of money by downgrade the truck and sell it.and some interesting fact that your 1star truck can be 5 star again by upgrading the part that already wear, for example I buy volvo fh globetroter xl, 8x4 chassis, 600hp, 1star condition, just 2% permanent wear and around 30℅ at part wear and "JUST" 1.332 milage and it just cost me 112.873 and i downgrade it to very basic 4x2 chassis,sleeper cab, 420hp,and 2.64 gearbox and i get more than 80k in refund and i sell the truck for 97k.if you want to use this truck just look for 0% permanent wear because higher permanent wear will tear your part wear more fast.you can get around 100-400k a week from used truck bussiness.i really helped by this used truck bussiness because i use hard economic mod😁
Do u use vr? If yes, how did you enable zoom in whulr using vr? Also how did u move all the menu ui at the bottom?
Its called trackir thats how he moves his camera inside
How you managed to get there with 100% damage I don't know. I tend to find the wheels wear out quickest and the damage number shown is the 'highest' number of all separate areas.
You should race a used scania with a new iveco
some truck mileage was 1,000,000km. bruh
I love Renault Magnum.
Hey, I've been thinking about changing my thrustmaster t150 wheel to a logitech g27 with the shifter, and since you still use it, can you tell me if it is worthy?
It's still a good wheel. Works for me on Windows 11, and the shifter with buttons it has aren't available any more. If you can get a good condition one for about $150 (USD) or less I would recommend it.
i buyed a used one a mercedes for 113 it is pretty good
What's wrong with the truck? It's a Renault!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHATS THE POINT? Obviously realism, and affordable first truck or expansion options, also introduces the concept of discontinued trucks... get a grip mate.
Ah yes because not being able to fix a gearbox without paying nearly 170k is sooooo realistic.
do the scania next
I think I have to restart the game cuz my Company Is at like 35Mil and growing. Btw I tried every truck and all of them got strongly outperformed by both Volvo and Scania.
I don't even know if this is because my truck is used... But my truck's windshield wipers have started to turn on automatically. Even if it's not raining?! The truck have also started to shift down and up, almost all the time. Sometimes the game makes me automatically drive in 30km/h on a 80km/h road?? Please help :p
There's a setting in the gameplay options for auto wipers. Try turning that off.
What if u join americon and euro truck simulator to gether with other countrys cool
You would probably have to fix some stuff two