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Swales Honey - Beekeeping made too complicated.
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2024
- Over the years I have made some mistakes which have over complicated my bee farming.
We also take a look at my “materials handling” equipment.
Keep going with the videos. I'm finding them really interesting
Thank you. I hope to keep this going.
The kind and encouraging comments are really appreciated.
Great insights Trevor. Today I made 31 Hive Stands using your cross bars. Only took me an hour. I build all my own hives all on 11 frame nationals. No supers. Just use brood box. K.I.S.S. I have a Suzuki Carry with a Hive Lifter on the back. (made using an Acro and box steel).
Thank you Peter. You really have embraced the KISS principle. I am always amazed by the ingenuity of some beekeepers.
Acro based hive lifter - excellent.
That looks like a beautiful part of the country for walking. Enjoying your videos. Thanks.
Thanks Andy. I’m very lucky to live and work in beautiful North Yorkshire.
We get a lot of casual day walkers as well as people doing several recognised long distance walks.
Good interesting vid Trevor 😊
We use a mix n match of Commercial & National boxes
Thanks, I think your choice gives you a lot of options and I almost went that route myself. Your choice also has a massive bonus…..
The resale value of National ( and Commercial ) equipment is always going to be better than with my set up.
Thanks for another very informative video.
I use national hives and tried just using deep boxes but struggled to move the honey boxes and they are no where near as heavy as langs.
Id love a shed like yours, i have to make do with an 8x16 at the bottom of the garden down 16 steps and extracting in the wifes kitchen, shes not keen 😊😊
I used to have to barrow everything down a ramp and into our “conservatory”.
I thought that was difficult but I now realise that was easy.
“Down 16 steps”- 👏👏👏
All that and your wife doesn’t seem to appreciate your effort Steve.
Brilliant,😂
Check out 9 frame spacers for your supers. With 9 frames in a 10 frame hive, spaced equally apart, they hold more honey, and the wax stand proud of the frame. This makes it an easy job to cut cappings either with an uncapping machine or by hand with a hot knife or serrated blade.
Hi Andy, thanks for your input.
I do run 9 frames in my 10 frame supers.
This happened naturally as propolis built up on the side bars.
Even with that extra spacing most combs are still not drawn beyond the Manley side bars. Manley side bars are 1 5/8 inch wide.
We do uncap with an electric knife but are hoping to improve on this.
I can not wait until I lift my first 90 lb deep box!!!!!!!!!!
Yes I can understand the anticipation.
Good luck.👍
I'm not a big beekeeper just 5 hives but because of back problems I use horizontal langstroth hives with all deep frames. I know that what I'm doing wouldn't work with a large operation but I don't want a large operation just 10 or 12 colonies for now. I don't want to move my bees for pollination. I do bee removals and if I get too many colonies I just sell the excess colonies to maintain the number of hives I feel I have time for. I only have to worry with 1 size frame and besides my horizontal langstroth hives only 1 size box.
Hello Thomas and thank you for a well thought out comment.
I completely agree with all that you say and I may well end up with a few horizontal hives eventually.
The real beauty of your system is that operations can be a frame at a time as opposed to heavy cumbersome boxes.
Can I ask what timber treatment / preservative do you use on your boxes ?
Good question. All my hives have had several coats of Cuprinol clear.
Obviously the main thing with any preservative is that it’s “bee friendly”.
I think they are constantly changing the makeup of Cuprinol clear so care is needed.
One hive type and one box size would make management far easier .... It does have its negatives though Having a deep box full of honey can be heavy and not for all, you could only use mediums as bees survive fine in nucs they dont need all that space . Deeps for honey weght can be offset to some degree by going poly rather than wood. The options are endless and whats best depends on the person and how many hives they own. Putting some thought into this before you start will pay dividends .
Yes Paul you’re absolutely right and that’s sound advice for anybody starting out.
Unfortunately my outfit evolved bit by bit, hence the chaos.👍
Totally agree with your comment. I'm about to start out and I think Langstroth would be much better due to the size of the brood box. A very interesting point in the video is running all deep boxes, I hadn't considered that concept. I'm only wanting 2-4 hives but if every box is the same size and every frame is the same size it really would reduce the confusion. If either of you could advise further I'd really appreciate it. (I'm strongly leaning towards the Abelo poly)
@@stewillo86 Yes there’s a lot to be said for using one size of box but you really have to consider the weight issue. I don’t know how old you are or how physically fit you are but a Langstroth deep full of honey can weigh 90 - 100 lbs.
They are not only heavy but an awkward shape as well.
As you pick them up the weight and shape can pull you forward.
Every different hive and relevant constituent parts comes with positives and negatives and sometimes it’s a case of going with the “least worst” candidate. Good luck.👍
@@swaleshoneyI'm in my late 30's and I'd like to consider myself to be relatively fit and strong. (If I'm in half as good condition as you when I'm your age I'll be more than happy!)
@@stewillo86 Thanks Steve, I guess it’s Steve, I am nowhere near as fit as I was and this year I have found myself on a real downward slope that way. The stamina ain’t what it was but I do what I can.😁👍
Is the medium a Dadant depth super?
Yes it is Chris. 6-5/8” deep I think.🤔
Good to see a proper beekeeping measurement Trevor👍 all our plans are in "old" money. When someone asks me something in mm I still have to convert it back to inchers. Loving the channel, can't believe I've only just stumbled across it 👍
Thanks for the positive comment Chris, I appreciate it. I also work and think in imperial measurements (dinosaurs???).🤣
Did I not see an Icko boom loader still on its pallet in one video Trevor or is that another story all together
You did indeed and yes that is a story for another day. Not sure what I’m going to do with it yet but I thought this video already featured quite enough incompetence.🤣
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
And I thought a 10 frame Langstroth loaded was some heft. 11 frames!!!! There's some muscle in you Yorkshire men.
Yes David, they do say we are “ strong in t’arm and thick in t’head”.😂
Ive known a few smart lads from Yorkshire in my time. I switched over to 8 frame Langstroths a few years ago. It was a good move, preventing potential injury. Curiously, i havent seen a reduction in honey yield, although yes, i do handle more boxes.@swaleshoney
Yes David I can understand that.
More boxes to handle is a nuisance but an injury whilst lifting has the potential to be very serious.
Stick to deeps if they are to heavy carry 7 frames in a box to the truck . Then put the extras back in .
Buy a crane for your truck to lift 4 deeps at a time .. the lift picks them up by the handles of the lowest 📦
Or hire young healthy school girls or school boys
Yes that’s an answer to the issue io deeps.
However I’ll be sticking with my shallows as the cost of converting to all deeps is prohibitive.
I do have the sort of crane you mention but I’ve not yet found the right vehicle to put it on.
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Thank you my friend. I think you must put a lot of effort into watching these videos. I appreciate that effort.
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I am interested in the experience of a beekeeper from another climate zone , because I am also a beekeeper. Thank you for your answers. Very nice indeed. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🤝🤝🤝🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🐝🐝🐝✌✌✌