The Vostok Amphibia's One HUGE Flaw!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
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I am always impressed at how passionate Vostok fans are. Not many brands inspire that kind of loyalty.
In Soviet Vostok, watch watchers watch YOU.
Someone in the internet says something objectively negative about Vostok watches,
Vostok fans all around the globe: TO ARMS COMRADES!!!
@@reinisrudzitis4802 at least they prove people can unite for one purpose
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Seiko, Casio , Rolex ?????
vostok is a good watch but vostok is a better watch
i`ve ordered couple of Vostoks - hope they`re gonna be better
Late ass reply I know but man reading this in a Russian accent is damn hilarious
@@jamesmoucheron4799 I haven't seen any reviews of the new vostok watches.
Everything is a compromise. Vostok wanted to make a watch for the military: their specifications were to have a watch that was water proof, shock resistant, easy to maintain, and simple to construct. Accuracy was on the list, but it wasn't the primary goal of the development program. What Vostok came up with was the Amphibia.
Accuracy: really good for a mechanical watch in it's price range. Mine runs about 5 seconds fast in a day
Water resistance: Yes. I surf, I swim, I go camping. The Amphibia never got a drop of water in it. Never.
Durability: Let me know if anybody has ever actually worn out a Vostok. 31 jewel movement. Think about it.
Yes, the fit and finish isn't as good as an Omega Seamaster or Rolex Submariner. But a Seamaster costs, literally, a hundred times what you pay for an Amphibia. The Amphibia is a mechanical watch and as such will never be as accurate as a quartz movement. I have a Venus 200 Swiss that is valued at about $2k and it's not much more accurate than the Vostok. As far as durability, there a numerous videos showing Amphibia's being torture tested, but the same tests are never done on the Rolex or Omegas for accurate comparison. My thought is the Russian watch is much stronger than either of the others. Like an AK-47 has it's ugly flaws, but it always goes bang.
I am not a Vostok fanboy, I'm just pointing out that it's important to keep your expectations realistic on a $60 watch. I own one, I wear it every day, and I will say that it's a well rugged and reliable watch. Good enough for me.
If you have the kit there watch is adjustable and you can get set accuracy pretty well. From factory it can be variable.
That Omega comparison is so made up out of nowhere and then argued about like someone else than this dude did it, lmao.
No offence dude, I see your point, but that's dishonest though.
I'm not a huge Vostok apologist or fanboy, but they have earned a tremendous amount of respect with me. I have one thats 28 years old, and it still runs at +/- 10 seconds a day without any services. My great uncle gave it to my dad, and then I got it. It's an older Komanderskie automatic with hand wind. Tough as nails for sure. I just wish the lume was better!
hope i am not 3 years late, but yeah, that happens with vintage watches, lume loses its strength over time
@@diegojuarez3830 That's right, but most of the dials are still available and can be easily exchanged. You can also put Superluminova on the old dial.
My Komanderskie had great lume for 30 years before it became degraded. I relumed it a couple of years ago with superluminova and it's _almost_ as good as it was from the factory. I suspect the original still had radioactive lume even though Vostok claims to have stopped using it by 1977.
The best thing about the Amphibia vs. Seiko vs. Casio vs. Timex is that all those watches are cheap enough that it's possible to own all of them. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation. Wear the Amphibia if you feel like goofing around, wear the Seiko if you want to "dress it up" a bit, wear the Casio G-shock if you know you will be beating on the watch, wear the Timex if you don't care if the watch survives the day or not.
It's good to have choices and the freedom to pick and choose.
@@thomasboyle1677 I wonder if Timex has got worse, or it's stayed the same while everything else has gotten much better?
@@thomasboyle1677 I think there is a lot of nostalgia when it comes to Timex. They were never known as a so-called "high end" brand, but they were well respected for making bullet-proof watches that kept good time under harsh conditions. But like many iconic brands, they let themselves get overextended and forgot where their roots lay. Timex had just one job to do in the mind of the consumer: make a durable watch.
@@tjsogmc Like the gentleman above me said, there's a lot of nostalgia regarding Timex. I was born in 1956 and literally everyone had a Timex. If you had a little more money you got a Bulova or a Hamilton, but every American man, woman and child had at least one beater Timex. They were never a particularly good brand, even then, and were considered disposable. (Timex mechanical movements were sealed, unable to be serviced- if it stopped running, the factory repair method was to submerge it in gasoline, blow it out with compressed air, and oil it with 3-in1 oil. If that didn't work, you tossed the whole watch away, since it was more cost effective than fitting a new movement on and replacing the hands.)
Timexes were engineered to last about five years. Many lasted beyond those five years, but good luck trying to disassemble and properly restore a vintage Timex with sealed movement. +/- five minutes a day (minutes, not seconds) was considered proper timekeeping range for a new Timex. I have my childhood Timex that I "service" every ten years by putting the movement in an ultrasonic cleaner and oiling with RemOil, just as they were "serviced" by Timex. It still continues to run, although it gains about three minutes a day.
And I never understood where they got a reputation for being bulletproof; none of mine seemed particularly rugged. I laugh at the old advertisements where Rocky Marciano pummels a Timex glued to a punching bag and it still works. One accidental drop onto carpeted floor will render most vintage Timexes unusable. This was why Timex never secured any military contracts. Their inaccuracy, relative delicacy, and inability to be serviced outweighed any cost saving benefits the military ever envisioned.
Ironically, at a time when most old prestigious American watch companies suffered due to cheap Asian watches flooding the market, Timex immediately capitalized on the Quartz Crisis and bought a Phillippines factory to make these new movements. Quality of Timex watches went higher than ever, because they were finally using modern production techniques. They began innovating technology like Indiglo backlighting and advanced waterproofing. They were no longer trying to compete against high end mechanical watchmakers; they were competing against Casio and Seiko.
But because there's so much nostalgia attached to the name, and people still consider it an "All American" brand, they charge outrageous prices for their watches. One can do so much better with comparable watches by other makers. There's not a single Timex Expedition that is better than a Casio Forester or Pro Trek, and the Casios are half the price. Their Waterbury line is decent, but you're paying top dollar for it because it's nominally "made in the USA."
I get that watchmakers survive off the brand caché that appears on the dial. If a Rolex didn't say "Rolex" on the dial, people wouldn't be dropping $30k on basic Datejusts and Submariners. But the Timex name connotes cheapness and value, so I will never understand why someone would be willing to drop more than $50 on one.
_Scubadoobadude, where are you?_
Dᴇᴍᴇɪᴋᴏ hah, nice
Vostoks have the same flaw that G-Shocks have-those damn things are addicting.
But Vostoks dont break the bank like G Shocks do, I know from experience, glad that some one introduced me to Vostocks and Ive weaned myself off any more G shocks.
not my watch, not your watch, it is OUR watch
Sohan Meegahage it is the people’s watch
Vostok Amphibia wouldve been a better watch
He's presenting the Amphibia. Which video are you watching?
I absolutely agree!
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In Russia watch wears you.
Miles Jenkins and of course watch=vostok and vostok=watch, there is no way anything else can be called watch
explains the size lol
I dive , diving is my hobby ; I'm also from the Bay of Cienfuegos , Cuba . Vostok was my diving watch , specifically the automatic 2416 with the round case and the unidirectional bezel . The watch still exists , my younger brother keeps it . I miss it . Dearly .
armando cardenas saludos cubano.
Saludos amigo!
Saludos , Raul .
Saludos , Paco .
A Russian watch on a NATO strap just seems wrong.
Why? Because the NATO is a british invention? I disagree. Just like chinese watches can use japanese movements, and german watches typically use Swiss.
You seem to not have understood the joke:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO
loooool
markalexander774 😂😂😂😂
It is Soviet strap posing as NATO strap. Mix in with other NATO straps. Send strap secret intel back to "office"
*Vostok Amphibia review video gets uploaded*
Comrades, load your rifles, we march again *CCCP anthem intenssifies*
Ličite
Bliet nazis...
The Vostok charm is that they are that are based upon designs from ~ 50 years ago (or longer) but are made with recent processes. Basic, super accurate and reasonable. Good for people that do not need their entire lives downloaded in the their smart-whatevers.
Vostok Amphibias are too cool! Even their imperfections are cool and give them "character" and style points. They may not be the best watch, but you can't get a better value or watch with more features for $65 bucks! You get 200m WR, automatic in-house 31-j mvt, hand winding, easy to mod, parts are cheap & easy to find & they can also be regulated to be very accurate, etc, etc ...
TheGoodwolfe what's not to love.
Agreed. I love it when people compare the Amphibia to the Submariner and then ask "which would you rather have". Of course the Submariner, without a doubt! But I can't afford it. So the next best is the Amphibia.
Huge flaw: it's very lovable!
No wonder all the Vostok dudes (or scubadudes) speak about their Amphibians. It's a great watch.
Out of curiosity I bought a vintage one with the 470 case, all original for 40€. And man was I surprised. This thing is so hot! I have a hard time choosing something else than my Speedy. But this actually became my go-to watch... And now that I read more about its construction, I am searching for a second vintage 470 in another configuration and in the same condition. I recommended the Amphibian to all of my friends 😂
TheJet I also love the 470 case and it’s become an addiction. I’ve bought 13 in 12 months and intend keeping every one. Some are NOS and others were quite beaten up. Dials, hands, crystals, etc are easy to change....even new movements. Enjoy!
The reason for the huge cult following is because they are great watches at reasonable prices. I have three Vostoks so far, and all three are perfect. I would put a Vostok up against any other mechanical watch on the market for any kind of test that can be thought of.
I ordered one of these a few days ago - a blue Scuba Dude in the 710 case with navy NATO strap. Can’t wait for it to arrive. I suspect it won’t be my last Vostok given how affordable they are!
how you like it?
In soviet Russia you don't break watch, watch break you!
In America, you report UFO to government. In Soviet Russia UFO report you to government.
Once u wear Russian watch your name changes to Dimitri u learn to solve everything with 2x4 piece of wood and u learn to defend Mother Russia and Vostok watches!!! Also crown is loose so U don't break it after too much VODKA!!!!
I have 2 seikos, invicta prodiver, Gshock, Timex but i just fell in love with this Vostok Amphibia. It has some flaws like rotor is just not smooth enough to rotate, glass gets scratched, bezel is bidirectional and doesn’t click, crown feels flimzy (but it has reasons why) and when I wound it it is quite tough. However, I still love this watch wven though it has some imperfections. I can compare this vostok to my old 2002 Nissan Frontier ... still runs even though it has imperfections, built like a tank and it will go wherever whenever.
Love the scuba dude!!!
The Vostok amphibia seems really cool. I might get it as my first automatic in the future
Thad would be an excellent choice.
This channel shows that if you consistently create awesome content you can grow a youtube channel even in a niche market such as watches. Keep up the awesome work man.
Have 5 vostoks. Love them. Put a plain bezel & nato & cool nato & u have amazing field watch.
I'm wearing this exact watch right now, only my case is sand blasted stainless instead of polished. The case tapers to 20mm width bracelet. Love the unpretentious cool and attitude of it. I put it on and never took it off, its now my favorite watch. Works flawlessly, keeps the same time as my computer. I love the statement this watch makes about engineering, quality and price. Hard not to love it, and once you catch the bug, you've got it! I now own 6 Russian watches, three of which are Amphibias.
i cant tell you how long i have been waiting for this review!
I don't understand how a strong fanbase can be held as a flaw of the watch itself.
I love your enthusiasm, especially how you review watches that are attainable for a beginning collector. It must be hard to watch videos all day about Rolex, Grand Seiko, vintage tudors, panerai, etc etc if you haven’t even taken the plunge on an automatic watch. I love that you give the same respect to a Vostok as any other watch you review even though it’s $80.
I love my Amphibia (and other Vostoks as well), I just miss one thing: quick date change. I know that trick of winding it backwards from the midnight change to 8 o'clock, but that still feels wrong to do with the movement.
Just got one mostly for an upcoming trip to Hawaii as a throw away just incase anything happens watch fits and feels great and the looks is awesome
Thank you for another very fun video Jory!
I love that you are having the contest...perfect combination: tools for me, Vostok for my son :)
I love the Vostok Amphibia and have an 090 and 71 scuba dude. I did a bezel mod on both and changed the bracelets. A few minor changes and they have become some of my favorite watches. I wear them more than my Rolex.
I joined the cult officially yesterday, bought a £17 Amphibia that keeps abs perfect time and apart from a slightly scratched glass looks abs amazing and has joined my increasing military watch collection, its ironic that one of my Eaglemoss's is a nod to the Vostok tank commanders watch but twice the size. Def recommend getting one if its a good 'un, its one of them weird things where something Soviet actually is working well.
I have a Vostok that my father got in Yugoslavia during the Civil war. its been thirty years without service through combat with him and brutal training exercises with me. I wouldnt trade it for anything.
I picked one up a month ago and I love it. I have a Cocktail time and now it sits in watch case. Don't get me wrong I love Seiko's but I don't really bad about really wearing this watch and the Lume on the SE line of Vostok watches is pretty good. I opted for no date, which I do love the simplicity. I definitely want the Scuba dude version though and my feeling is they go cheap on the case back by not giving you that scuba dude on the back unless you pay $10 more for one.
I've got three Amphibias, and a Komandirskie. Can't stop buying them, they are awesome.
I once binge-bought about 5 Vostok watches, back when I discovered that you could get stuff hitherto hidden behind the Iron Curtain online. The fact that I could afford 5 such watches, and all 5 are still running and keeping accurate time - tells me they're great values for the money. Ironically none of the Vostoks I have are Amphibias - personally I find them very lacking in style, but then I like the Kremlevskie line - basically the Invictas of the Soviet/Russian watches.
Soviet/Russian engineering is so fascinating to me. Whereas Western Europeans, Japanese, and Americans come up with more technology and "fancier" ways of dealing with solving real-world obstacles - Russians often come up with more simplistic, but stunningly effective solutions. Their military weapons are a great example. Anyone familiar with the Mosin-Nagant or Kalashnikov rifles, or the Tokarev or Makarov pistols - knows they're not as elegant or refined as their Western counterparts, but yet they're amazingly durable and in service up to this day.
Vostok watches are basically like that - they're the Kalashnikovs of the horological world.
Plus - the Cyrillic writing on the dial and case backs are just plain cool.
I love the fan base of Vostok watches. They show more love for that brand flaws and all than anything else. Watch lume all fell off...oh that's just the derskie...chance to modify. Crown fell out my Partner...chance to modify. In fact I opened my Komanderskie up to fix a bent hand and found an eyelash under the plastic. Didn't even bother me.
Not only is the amphibia a cool as heck watch, that particular variant is also my favorite!
For under $100 bucks . This watch is a commander of chief!
The Vostok amfibia is part of the illustrious group of watches that have been to space 😏
So for anyone that wants to start a space watch collection: you can start with the amfibia, komandirskie and also the Casio g-shock (google flight certified g-shocks, or just go with THE classic square dw5600ev1) and at least this start won’t break your bank.
After that it probably only gets more and more expensive though...😂
Jory rocks. Two sources of establishing morale in the morning. a) high grade freshly ground Colombian or north Australian coffee with a shot of vanilla and low fat milk, or b) Watch one of these videos. c) do both.
😂🙏☕️
He really does .
I think the Vostok Amphibia is the best self driving car to date.
They are cool. I have two right now. I love them!
Technically, Vostok didn’t invented anything new all they did is make the Komandirskie thicker, thicker case back with more jewel
As a big Vostok fan, I read this vid title as:
VOSTOK , HUGE
hello sir, that is the most reliable & affordable dive watch period. love the scuba dude printed on the dial. keep it coming sir. cheers. :)
Welp, I think you talked me into getting one. Never heard of them until I seen them on Amazon. Definitely going to get one!
I love getting to "watch" your videos haha, keep up the awesome work and reviews! You got some really amazing content!
Tanner Bennett I love GETTING DOWN TO BUSINESS lmao
Nice Vostok! Meanwhile I'm a few days to month 5 of waiting on my K-35 😪😪. Thanks for the vid - always great 👍👍👍
I have this watch. I would not say that the bezel is very easy to move around. It is stiff enough that you won't move it just by nudging it. You have to apply pressure. Sometimes it is too stiff.
Ok, I bought it! The 1967 style scuba dude. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
At it's core, it's a mechanical watch designed back when a mechanical watch was the only way to tell time. So mechanically reliable, reasonably accurate and mass-produceability were the design criteria rather than absolute accuracy and stability how much gold-inlay could be stuck into the movement.
Soviet engineering was generally pretty good - with a tendancy to find something that worked 'good enough' and to keep producing that forever instead of trying to make it better - or at least to keep producing it until 'Good enough' is no longer Good Enough.
I've a Komandirskie on order. Nothing fancy, but in truth, it's exactly what I want from a watch. Cheap. 24hr dial, and can be repaired with ebay parts when I manage to wreck it by being a plank. I've also ordered a 24 hour bezel for it, and an anti-mag back. Just because.
"people put these things on and they dont want to take them off"
my friend gave me a vostok amphibia with a radio room face as a gift because he hated seeing me wear my grand seiko to work. can agree, IT DOES NOT COME OFF. although I've never met another vostok owner :(
The Vostok watch is made as a tool, not a piece of jewelry. The watch is durable and cheap. It is fit for military use where it was originally. Now watch enthusiasts have found Vostok watches because it has history and the watch is good considering the price.
Got this exact watch delivered yesterday for $75 from Meranom. Put an orange Nato on it - makes the dial colour pop beautifully. Looks amazing in person, photos and videos do not do it justice. Just be aware of the short lugs. I put thicker spring bars in and struggled to thread the strap because of the narrow gap.
Great vids dude!!
Orient gave the Bambino an "open heart". Your thoughts? Will you look into one of these? My first Orient is on its way and I can't wait!
Edit: I think this topic is video worthy given the Bambinos status as an entry level "go to" dress watch.
I finally ordered one of these. Same one in the video. I can’t believe I waited this long but I’m excited to get it
I need to get one of these. I am tired of ALL of my broken Seikos.
My flaw having owned this watch is that the second hand isn't smooth - at the 10 to 30 second mark it doesn't just smoothly go forward, it stops and then gains by speeding up. I don't know why it does this. I saw a video where they explain that this is a feature, not a bug. But it might annoy some people. Also, I just saw some Swedish guy on UA-cam put this watch in a pressure chamber and the thing only stopped working at 800 meters, which is four times what it says on the back! I have my Amphibia on a rubber Seiko dive watchband and it looks great.
I got mine today. My box didn't have the gold accents on the lettering and stuff. Mine was just black.
It’s a pretty damn good watch. Personally I really like it.
I thought for sure the one big flaw would be the lack of quick date change. Having to wind through hour by hour, day by day stinks. But I do love my Scuba Dude.
@sofiak2900 I will try it. I have tried to set date that way without success, but I don't think I went all the back to 8. Thank you.
Want one just because of Steve Zissou!
I'll be the first to say that the Vostok Amphibia sure can use a quick date change feature.......yet I own more than 20 of the damn things......and will probably buy more. To me, the Vostok's biggest flaw is that there's so many awesome versions, and it makes me want to keep buying more than I don't really need. Then I spend even more on mods to give it that final touch.
I just watched a video of yours where you said you considered a Vostok a toy and not a serious watch? I'm no fanboy, I bought one recently and aside from the looks It's pretty rough but I appreciate the history/heritage of how they came to be.
Have a couple, one gripe I have with it is the chain. Its rattles, and if you don't want it to rattle, you need to tighten it up, which now it will pinch you if you move the wrong way. These things needs to be on a nato.
Think of the scuba dude as the mosin nagant rifle of watches. Very basic design of varying quality, but cheap and functional enough to develop a fan base.
The thing about the Amphibias is that they are generally FAR better than the official specs. They are usually much more accurate, and the cases consistantly withstand pressure tests in excess of 600m! I wish the crystal was more scratch resistant, but I understand the reasoning behind using this acrylic material. At the very least, they should sell a polishing kit.
Scuba Dude Rocks !!! - (posted while wearing my Casio Dw-5600e)
Buying one today almost 5 years later
Got into watches about 4 years ago. I really don't know a whole lot about Vostok, but I can vouch that from the bit of material I've seen, It does have a pretty neat following. Looks dope!
I was expecting something like the non stainless steel crown and the huge flaw was the fanbase. LMAO.
Great video my dude.
I want to see a review on a Vostok Kremlyovksie. Besides some of the special edition watches it is one of the high end Vostoks.
Entered the contest but couldn't wait for my fix, so I also got a Vostok 420 case Kommandirskie on Ebay for THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS plus about three fiddy for shipping. Since the 'Dirskie has a tank on it and is only water resistant, I am planning to swap the dive bezel for a compass. Then I need the cushion-style 710 "Ministry" case Amphibia and finally a vintage dress model with the 090 Tonneau case and a plain bezel. For aviation watches and chronographs (which I don't have as much use for), Vostok Europe has a few great models in a higher price range.
Love my amphibia,I have 4 nato straps to go with it..
Sorted.
Luv the channel and keep it up.
It’s here!
Got the exact same one about 2 months ago. Excellent piece! :)
LeTs geT down To busines has 3 T's coincidence? Idon't think so.
I just bought a SARB065 Cocktail Time today... yet again, like the Alpinist, because of you. Managed to find a brand new one in stock for a very reasonable price. I also have two Amphibias in my collection: a 420526 Zissou (of course) on a Seiko style rubber diver strap and a 090916m (m for matt finish). The 090 has been given a Seiko style bezel and insert along with a 4mm thick mesh bracelet - this watch gets the most positive comments from non watch people. There is a plan for a third one - to make an early Fifty Fathoms-ish looking one out of a 420660, a suitable bezel and insert (available), vintage Tropic style rubber strap and a more slender retro hand set. More a case of wanting to learn how to extensively modify a watch more than anything else.
My taste in watches has grown. Until recently, I was mostly a black\dark dial and white\metal contrasting details sort of watch fan. But T3 has really sold the Alpinist and Cocktail Time to me... made me open my eyes and see the colour. The hardlex crystal almost put me off enough and I was nearly getting a SARB033 instead (more in line with my usual tastes)... But having owned other Seikos with hardlex, I decided it wasn't a good enough reason to play it safe and bland with the 033 and got the 065 in the end. Like the Alpinist, the Cocktail Time really looks a lot nicer in person. Only downside is the JDM straps don't seem to fit my 8" wrists... but how often do Seiko fans keep the original strap on the watch?!
It's the price point. It's a good feeling to most people that they can have a watch collection that they can actually afford. Like you said, they are a great value. I think people understand it will have short comings. The heritage, charm, functionality and modifications friendly aspect makes it a very attractive package. Im looking to start a collection of these as well. Asking for a scuba dude for Father's day from my boys. We go boating and the season is starting. Perfect time for nautical type watch with character for CHEAP!!
You should have done this video about the vostok amphibia.
Thanks for the video. I own the scuba dude 710case similar to the one in the vid. I got mine from AM-diver. Great, fun, quirky watch.
I have owned two and neither worked. They both would randomly stop for no reason. If I shook them they would start working, but regular wrist movements weren't enough to power the movement. Winding wasn't 3nough either. I even took them to a watchmaker who said they needed new mainsprings. The watches developed these issues after six months and three months respectively. They look cool, but based on my experience not reliable.
Vostok Master Race!
You are correct, sir, the Cartier Tank is the best dress watch in the world (at the price point :)
The Vostok Amphibia is always the better option!
The amphibia isn't a bad watch nor a great watch... It's just a "good" watch in the middle. It's like a hunting truck it ain't fancy but it gets you there without issue.
I enjoy my Vostoks very much! Now send that cocktail watch to me. It is defective, and I will make certain that you never have to endure that troublesome watch again.
Who won the watch?
Vostoc Amphibia watches are cool. Plus they actually do have an interesting horological history.
A £70 watch that can go to 821 meters before dying: beat that
Just got mine. Date adjust hack does not work. Hand winding, crown always catches threads. Watch looks fantastic, is fun, draws interest. Buy it as a wrist ornament, use your phone for the time.
If I get that watch
I’ll be so happy I won’t fap for 30 days straight
*That is exactly the one I was looking for.*
Little late but you'll appreciate I love Seikos and my son gave me this for Christmas. I'm conflicted now. Can you love both?
Comrade! Excited for whoever gets that very nice watch.