KAIRI & COACH YEB RESPONDED TO PEOPLE SAYING PH CARRIED INDO… 🤯
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- KAIRI & COACH YEB RESPONDED TO PEOPLE SAYING PH PLAYERS CARRIED INDONESIA… 🤯
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Im a filipino and I respect indonesians 🤝 i dont care who carries who because ML is a team game. It is all about team synergy and respect!!
Respect bro
For the first time in my life i saw you say something good
respect! you're one of the smart Philippines 👍🏻
Moba Singh
We need more player like this👍
During the interview with Wolf, Coach Yeb mentioned the big difference he noticed about Indonesian and Filipino players. According to him, Indonesians focus on QUANTITY while Filipinos focus on QUALITY. This means that Indonesians are hardworking and will PLAY A LOT OF GAMES everyday during training. He said that Kairi himself, who is already considered the most hardworking Filipino ML player, cannot compete with his teammates when it comes to playing many games.
Filipinos, on the other hand, focus on the QUALITY of their games. They don’t train a lot but they make sure that they make the most of the time they have. He noted that the Indonesian style could lead to BURNOUT.
Meanwhile, Filipino players, because they do not focus on QUANTITY, they are able to GIVE THEIR BEST during actual competitive matches. This is why Indonesians are good with mechanics, but when it comes to shotcalling, leadership, and seeing the bigger picture of the game, Filipinos are better.
R7 also noted this before in an interview with Jon Liandi. He said that Filipinos are creative and know how to take risks. Indonesians play by the book, Filipinos think outside the box. I mean, that 200 IQ play of Baloyskie’s Mathilda vs. Kairi’s Fanny during the MPL ID S12 Finals isn’t likely to be made by an Indonesian player.
This is why having a good Filipino coach with a Filipino mindset can bring success to an Indonesian team that is good with execution.
P.S. This is also why games in MPL PH are slow. Because players are always trying to outsmart each other rather than always brawling it out. However, in PH games, always expect an explosive ending after all the brewed tension. In short, and this is weird, MPL ID is like watching basketball. MPL PH is like football.
Exactly. I prefer PH style. I'm sure they don't push rank all the time and the time they play is when it comes to practice time. The other time, they will watch videos, discuss, and do some analysis. And that's how you learn to be a better player.
Also, I hate being in a party that force to keep play when we have a lose streak. Seriously, take a break. When we lose streak, it means not because of dark system, it's because we are tired and Moonton increasing the difficulties of the opponent team. And I don't think it will good for us if we have a burnout. But yeah, Indo people love to blame on dark system.
@@mcglitter07i heard it from empeshow too (not sure, but ithink with R7). In scream PH teams not only searching wins, sometimes they make scenario how to def/comeback in lose condition
Agree
@@mcglitter07I am the same. I hate losing streaks so I always take a break. WR is important to me. I’d rather reach MG only but with a 60% WR, rather than MI but with 49% WR.
@@bayuadiwicaksono6806 see? Big brain move. And I think R7 is one of the players trying to adapt that kind of method
imagine spending hundreds of hours doing scrims, deepening your bonding with other teammates, building team chemistry, improving your overall skill and insight of the game only to be told that all this time you've been carried by the imports from other country
Take Kairi out from Onic ID and think of someone who can replace him. NO ONE. That's how good of a player he is. Sure maybe Albert can take his spot but you saw how Albert lost against Onic ID, Echo, Blacklist, etc. Kairi basically almost contributes 40% of the win rate the rest of the four members contributing the 60%. Without Kairi I doubt Onic ID will have a three peat back-to-back-to-back.
@@maur3318 I'm also not sure if Kairi without Onic can win the tournament!! Come on bro, I know Kairi is good, just come back, it's 5vs5. You can be proud but you also can't forget your teammates!
@@maur3318 They need each other!! Onic needs Kairi's services and yeb, yeb and Kairi need the cooperation of Onic's own staff and players.
@@renejay23nah i think he will still won though if he stayed a bit in ph remember him and his team onic ph placed 2nd in m3
lets talk fact instead, why are we speculating when we have evidence, kairi has no trophy without onic id and onic id has 2 mpl 1 msc without kairi, when kari playing but drian/albert sub in one of the other 4, they manage to lose to aura, the weakest team in indo, so where's the carry?@@maur3318
As an Indonesian mlbb fan, I think that having PH Imports come to MPL ID does have a HUGE impact towards the gameplay and adaptability of teams. ( even teams without PH Imports as well. as they were forced to adjust their game plan).
Hard-carried though?, that's a big stretch. Even ONIC was struggling occasionally against a full indo team like BTR. That itself shows you how competitive the scene in MPL ID has become. And I would say, as a spectator, that is what matters.
BTR of course is at least a strong team and therefore can catch up with ONIC ID but in the end, it is still ONIC winning the game. I agree that Kairi isn't hard carrying ONIC but him replacing Sanz as the jungler gave them a lot of improvement it is just annoying how your fellow Indonesians are bashing our ph teams when your best team has a pinoy import playing.
Bro you're the only one who gets it smh. It's more of the impact + synergy. Take other Filos or even nationalities to play with Onic and if it makes a difference = synergy, and if it thrives like with Kairi = synergy. When countered with "take a full local Indo team first," suddenly achievements are brought up. Clearly, if growth happened among these players, it is because these people complement each other, thus IMPACT + SYNERGY. Balance and no one's above.
Heck, even a local carries a localized team. Indos taking offense in toxic Filos' words are as toxic as well.
Bro coach yeb admitted in wolf podcast he gets struggles in mpl s12 because of recent patch and the healer/utility meta. Kiboys strength is like more on pickoffs and coach yeb decided was not to forced to used the healer/utility heroes for kiboy. They adjusted literally in playoffs and yeb knows they need to adjust in the meta and If the not they will lose especially in geek. Coach yeb knows how strong geek in leg2. He predicted the geek will qualified in m5. Coach yeb is stressed and had sleepless nights to studied and watch the replay the strat of opposing team in grand finals and he understands and had a solution that are his players not playing their best and scared to be fail that's why he tell to his players, play their best and play what are really you are don't be scared to fail. -coach yeb in wolfcast podcast
@@dot3476in terms of toxicity, what countrymen become first toxic? Isn't the indos? Fuck! Filipinos are not toxic unless some indos lit the fire! Do you just think of that logic? That we don't be toxic to indos if they know how to respect!
Im a Filipino and ONIC ID represents or showcase how a Professional Team Works and Play, I love watching Onic ID not because of Kairi and Coach Yeb.. I watch ONIC ID because of there Team Synergy Plays.
I want to see indo teams playing without Filipino players in international competition let see if they can win the match against the Filipino teams.
That's not equal cw replace by Albert they still win but Albert replaced kairi 0 hahah importnesia if Indo are strong why they need imports from ph are you crazy ? Bovo ka tlaga
Exactly this!
I love how accurate the translations are even though you are a Malaysian. Keep it up.
He may have a team that helps him translate. That's why DJY's content r top tier
He got translator probably. Or he learned tagalog from rose😂
there are quite a lot tagalog speakers in Malaysia.
@@AMIRULASYRAF-gm4vo That's why Tagalog is difficult to understand, because it's like an alien language. This is different from Indo and Malay which are almost similar so they are easy to understand
You can now translate it using AI
Obviously, Yeb's response wasn't directed at Venus but rather at the Filipinos who keep spamming that Onic is being carried by Filipinos. On the other hand, Venus is certainly right about something - if Indonesia wants to prove that they are on top above the Philippines, the only way they have to do this is by winning without any import, it's logical. But it's not like Kairi carries Onic all by himself, at times he plays poorly and the other players show that they also contribute and help the team, and they are strong as a whole, not just individually, which is why they managed to win the MSC.
Totally agree
Yeb response was directed to V33nus and the fans, she also stated that PH carried ID in the video lmao
yes sometimes kairi retri missed
M1 udh mang tanpa pH , first M1 itu bagaikan raja dari segala raja
@@hida8187 did he mention any names?
If there were Filipino players in Real Madrid, maybe they would say they were "Real Madrid carried the Filipino players" that is a very embarrassing mindset
THE REASON WHY OTHERE COUNTRY HIRED AN IMPORTS TO CARRIED A TEAM
Depends, this is a question of impact for the team? Did the player successfully help the team? Take out that person, would the team still perform the same without him? Let's be honest, Onic without Kairi is a trash team.
@@whin0079NBA? why you move to other context. Lemme tell you the biggest lost in history PH in football is 13-0 from Indonesia 😂
i mean if the ronaldo of madrid is the kairi of onic then yes
@@topthatshtyou think kairi withou the team onic can win ? Verry disgusting. is like when Messi play in Barcelona so he carried full Barca? nah bro he just help the game to more perfect to more Compact, the situation is same like kairi in onic he just help team he just do more Compact for onic, he don't play with team, also great team lol.
What is real and cannot be denied is. It is true that players from the Philippines have better adaptability than any other player. VeeWise's words should be able to be treated as a slap, Not a mockery.
Respect
I second the not a mockery line. That being a hypothetical statement suddenly took everyone on a defensive mode. Better the actual disprove than history.
FACT: Kairi has won a ton of internasional trophy before he JOIN ONIC ID
FACT: ONIC ID hasnt won any international trophy before KAIRI join ONIC ID
CONCLUSION: ONIC ID NEED KAIRI, KAIRI DOESN'T NEED ONIC ID
@@Snowfirezwell said
@@Snowfirez Exactly
@@Snowfirezare u dumb? Onic win mpli and msc with 5 kages without KAIRI
This kind of statements saying “Indos are being carried by Filipinos” is very dangerous for the Filipino players wanting to explore and play abroad, specially if made by prominent figures in e-sports. These Indonesian teams are taking a lot of risks by having Filipinos on their team. They may win a lot of championships with a couple of Pinoy players, but if this kind of issue affects their team’s popularity, local support, and, consequently, income, they may not want to invest on Filipino players anymore. So who will be at a loss? The Players. We know that there are limited opportunities for players here in the PH, so them being accepted in other countries is a big win. Not to mention bigger pay abroad. I hope Pinoys just support fellow Pinoy players, and respect the teams they are playing for.
Also, MLBB is a team sport/game. Being carried by one or 2 players mostly doesn’t even work in RANK if the other 3 are not good. Imagine in professional setting like MPL, MSC, or M series? The teams must be individually skilled, have great chemistry, and have worked a lot as a team to even have a shot at winning.
There's no [insert player name] esports. It doesn't exist and toxic people from PH and INDO spread those toxicity for the sake of thrashing one another and got nothing better to do with their lives. Where did this all started? SEA GAMES 2021 when people in Malaysia and Indonesia started taunting PH teams and saying "Philipause". Naturally, PH people fought back. Just look at Nathzz reaction when they won MSC, he was directing his shout towards the audience who kept taunting them before the grandfinals started. Now, the toxicity that started was just too much and what was supposed to be just a revenge continued and PH and ID fans kept throwing shades on each other until this day. It's unfortunate that all of these happened, I wonder if this will ever change.
PIGNOYS only good at basketball and basketball not even popular in Asia even pignoys basketball teams filled with imported black MEN 😂😂😂🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🇵🇭🇵🇭🏳️🌈🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🏳️🌈
I hope they"re not revenge each other again
😂😂 here in id no one care about ph all fans only care about rrq vs evos, is mpl ph not fun?
Why so ignoring for ph
@@Arthur-hw7jeignoring the strongest region?
the meta y'all playing shows it all 😂😂😂
there's nothing wrong in being honest, just do it 'coz it's OKAY to be No. 2 LMAO
It’s all about respect. Only the fans are making this drama.
EXACTLY AND PEOPLE WONDER WHY MLBB ARE THE MOST TOXIC GAME COMM. 😂😂😂
Not only fans,pro player making drama too,welcome to mlbb,all was full of drama,even R*Q ceo make a drama too
Nah it's obv veewise said that not fan😂
cw ganti sama Albert mereka tetep menang tapi Albert ganti kairi 0 hahaha importnesia kalau Indo kuat kenapa butuh import dari ph crazy indogs dua perwakilan Indo M5 semua playernya masih ada PH hahaha nangis indogz
Nah veeeise basically say that, they are salty that they lose both in msc and iesf by indo teans 😅
It is sad that up until these day, there's still this kind of mindset.
Not only here at MLBB but to other games as well.
This is a team game that puts a lot of effort for each member of that specific team.
Imagine the time of playing scrims just to build chemistry(takes hours, months and or even years!) bond, synergy, ect.
As a Simple Filipino being that sees this kind of response, i felt embarrassed and pity to my own Country as well.
*Actually I've learn a lot at Kiboy's playstyle, the aggressiveness and map awareness, map control(zoning). Ignited my Support soul life as Soft Support Dota2 player before.
It matches my playstyle.
i feel you even as indonesian his kind of mindset is just pity he's not only disrepecting the indo but also the ph who put a lot of effort for indo team
Actually, Indonesian fans are not too toxic towards the Philippines, in fact what I saw in some content about MPL, MSC, M-Series, Indonesian fans always acknowledge the greatness of the Philippines. If you understand Indonesian, just try looking at the comments of Indonesian people on content creator channels discussing MLBB. They know that the Philippine team is stronger and is still the best in the MLBB event. I tell the truth. Those who are always toxic are generally a bunch of snotty school kids who don't know anything, they're just over proud
Theres always each country had bad person..
Yes, lets not forget about the fact that they are M1 Champions, also has their fair share of MSC as well as other major and invitational tourny. Mobile Legends is basically a MOBA where team of 5 have to be in synergy. It was never a 1v5 battle. It is a team game. Still, Ang lakas mo Kairi! Saludo sayo
Kairi thrives on a team that takes high risk cause he is also a risk taker. How many times he can dash and avoid getting killed? He thrives in Indonesian scene because of this high octane tempo yet backed up by strong team beside him. He is a great player, the best as jungler, but probably the Indonesian teamfight style is where he'd shine the most rather than in PH
How can MLBB esports progress like Valorant, Dota and others if there is something like that? Isn't this a league? don't they play for the club? Do Ronaldo and Messi carry the names Portugal and Argentina when playing in the Spanish League? Your public is already stupid plus pro players who talk like that are what!?
yes, actually right
Venus is just yapping
When a fish is about to die it flaps the most
Blacklist ain't qualifying for m5 this time and venus wants to be in topic so that guy needs to say shit
It’s just a filipino thing😂, sasa, rippo, wizzking and many more went to id and some of them win several things. It’s only when ph came then pinoy loses their mind😂😂😂.
All the team is good as well. The point's not kairi but the teamwork of onic esport players🥰
I dont care what Filipinos want to think as long as they dont say that other onic members have negligible/zero contribution. No way Kairi 1v5 ECHO during MSC and won on his own. "Kairi Esports" is just plain disrepesctful and misleading, especially for the current strength of Onic ID as a team.
they're just jealous lol 😂,it's normal to have imported players in esports
that's true, I'm ph I'm embarrassed by overproud ph
True 😅👌
indo got carried by filipino is ❌
indo got help from from ph to win ✔️
i think that's good enough, no hate it's just for me
Yes! There is a huge difference between the two. People always misunderstand this, that is why indo and ph fans are feuding now.
Johnmar "V33NUS" Villaluna is actually right. GEEK Fam and ONIC ID have a good performance and stats because of help and contribution of Filipino imports. But let's not discredit their Indonesian teammates. Sanz and Kiboy are the reason why Kairi is shining when he use assassin heroes
Same to GEEK FAM, Luke has a big impact why his teammates are carrying the game
MLBB is still a MOBA game. It's 5 vs 5, not 1 vs 5/ 2 vs 5
very well said
Just admit that indo needs imports to get better than others. Thats a fact and its not that degrading they want to win and thats fine
@@nygeljacobmanzano1549 That's also true. But Filipino imports are nothing without Indonesian teammates. Do you think Kairi could still carry the game if Sanz, Kiboy, CW, and Boots are not doing well? Im really really appreciate the Indonesian teammates of our Filipino imports.
@@_cherubim other countries hired an imports to carried a team.thats the reason they hired an imports.
@@_cherubim what is the meaning for you of import?.according to the greatest truth import should do everything he got and help to his/her team .just paid some so that the import will bring the best of the best .#REALTALK NOT LIE
Just to remind my fellow pilipinos: Jana, Dlar, Marky (when he was in BTR), didn't improve the team that much.
The right mindset is: It is about a team's missing puzzle that needs to be filled in, not about what country's player that should be imported.
What if RRQ won M6 next year, will there be ID team carried by Myanmar's (Naomi) debate? Or if one Zimbabwe player joins Alter Ego and then they win MSC, will there be a debate of Zimbabweans carrying Indo team?
Yes, cause full ID teams aren't top ID team in ID lol
Idk about Jana and dlar but markyy from btr is acceptable
Jana was the reason why geek got to go to playoffs and 2nd place in mpli if he wasn't there geek would be for sure last place with Hanz. Hanz was dogshit I'm sorry but he was so bad even though Jana and geek didn't make it to playoffs because of evos I can say he improved the team even if it ain't that much.
For Dlar he couldn't improve the team why? He wasn't able to play in mpl he only got to play like what 2 matches? After that the last time he got to play he was okay I guess but I can see the downfall of Dlar after that.
Bro just think of it,
Btr didn't improve when Marky was there because marky is just a gold laner, and he can't be the one who thinks about drafts,
Unlike geekfam and Onic, we all know that baloy is one of the main drafters of geek(also the analysist) and onic had coach yeb and kairi.
I also want to add that evos just wasted the potential of Dlar, just look at what happened in MSC, look how dlar's gameplay affects onic when they meet in MSC.
The fact that Filipino tryna take all the credit to Filipino themselves in a team game is just crazy
@@jhomarialarilla4470coping too much, they "failed" As an import. Thats all
Geek's coach Erpang was the reigning champs in MDL with Onic, thats Quality.
MPL Indo wins with PH Roster
Pinoy: "Indo Carried by Pinoy"
MPL MY wins with Indo Roster
Indonesian: "Congrats"
What a shameful thing to say.... OMVeenus is overrated
They call Kairi (all imports) “Ph pride” “KairiEsports” … but they don’t call him a “TRAITOR”🤔 ….
(I dont think countries pride matter much in tournaments(Mseries, Msc) except Olympic(seagames).
What do u expect from the game that only exist in south east asia especially from one of the most overproud citizens which is ph. It’s not new😂
@@faicalibrahima9434true. ML ain't even popular and is pretty small game yet ph are like super duper hyped for it..knowing They're not doing anything other than play relatively small game. id like em to play some actual games and win.
@@faicalibrahima9434...wow..as if indo is not overproud...when ph is overproud..we back it up with results...what abt indo?
damn im suprised how good coach yeb's indo has become
Coach Yeb was already great back when they were still in onic ph,i mean they swept one of the toughest teams in the playoffs back in m3
@@pattikeyk2910 bro i think he meant on how coach yeb speaks the indonesian language 🤝
@@GGPGyup, Coach Yeb's bahasa is really good
that's not it, he was just stating a fact
@@pattikeyk2910no he's not, he's carried by Kairi that why Its kairi esports. Yeb in PH is nothing, he has the most losestreak in mpl ph in PH before he joined onic w/kairi
In think the word "carried " is so selfish, the right word is "impact" PH players in Indo right now contributes a lot of impact in the team.
PH team is only 1 step ahead on the Indo teams, that's why when a Ph player blended to Indo team it will become so strong also becomes a Championship caliber team.
How many ph imports are there in the world??? How many indo imports are there in the world??? Yup we dont need those they are weak
Have an import player is normal in esport. Look at dota2 team, every team has mix of countries. Its really rare to see a team that has only one country
Both side benefitted from one another. But I personally believe that Kairi and Coach Yeb benefitted the most because they were finally able to hold the trophy and be the best team in their own mpl. Onic ID were champions even without Kairi and Coach Yeb. It also opened the doors for more filipino players (heck, even other foreign players) to join other mpl regions all thanks to Coach Yeb and Kairi's success.
Before Onic ID got Kairi and Coach Yeb, they were an elite team that competes for the championship.
Once Kairi and Coach Yeb came, Onic ID became so unbeatable that it feels like a Prime BLCK is the only other team that can compare to them.
But please note that Coach Yeb and Kairi were never a champion when they were still at PH. They only made it this far because they went to Indonesia. And for that, they are thankful.
Thank you so much Onic Esports for signing them. I'm glad you're both able to help each other to be the best because you both deserve it. A disciplined and well-runned org deserve hardworking and class act players.
I would also be thankful if I get to finally earn more money and farm championship if I were to be playing in a weaker region.
@@kennadrian673 weaker? are you high?
@@yeetbwoi6677 PH having more international championship titles and indo having fewer makes them weaker than ph. Just facts you can't accept, Mirko approved.
kairi and coach yeb are normal here in the PH for 3 season? no chance for championship facts
@@kennadrian673 And they beat all those strong PH teams in MSC so idk about that
Indo and PH is one of the worst netizen in Asian (Streotype). Now both of em want to prove that point really hard, lmao.
As an indo myself, hard to admit but you got a point
How many ph imports are there in the world??? How many indo imports are there in the world??? Yup we dont need those they are weak
World is toxic ..
@@Rach_AstridMore like the gaming community
i miss old beef ID vs MY....
and tbh idc about this drama, aslong their in ID, they represent ID teams not PH😮💨
But dont say indo is the strongest region. You discredit import players that changes how indo meta is right now. I miss how pure ph deafeats pure indo teams
@@nygeljacobmanzano1549 i would said the strongest teams instead like Onic
@@Tqnzzz yup i do agree that onic is the right mix.... But again im a filipino and i hope that mpl ph teams will crush them. But best of luck
Im not one of those kairi esport people but lets be honest here when kairi go to onic id they improved A LOT. Im not saying the 4 guys were bad but when kairi got there their winning percentage go up.
bro, yeb don't have to explain that at all lmao. Vee was just rebutting the caster's statement AND nobody said that INDO players are weak, like literally no one. Maybe they meant that the PH is stronger which if we base it on achievements then they really are the strongest out of all the regions lol BUT nobody said indo players are weak for sure.
Vee just said that if they want to shut all those people up, they should win a M world title again with a pure Indo squad.
@@arararagi-san Or just ignore those kids honestly.
@@arararagi-san and I think, there's nothing wrong with Vee's comment.
Its All About Money Yeb
Literally no-one? Are you sure?
Kairi eSports does entail that Indos Onic are getting carried by him which again insinuates that they are inferior to Kairi. Yeb really needs to get those words out.
tbh i kinda like when they say import meta, i mean it works tho. I'm looking for any team especially PH to beat Onic ID. Until then, i agree that import meta is real and everyone carries eacb other, only a solid team that wants to be a champion, no pride for both region.
anyway i cheer for homebois letsgooo
In the end of the day, no matter where u’re from, it’s still a team’s game. If indo was truely carried by ph, it would mean that the ph import single-handedly carry the team but that’s not the case. For example, ONIC. Kairi and Yeb are amazing but the rest are ONIC are still putting their work in. That’s why they’re a team. Just my opinion tho
Yep i agre bro.
They are improving because of the play style of Kairi and coach Yeb teaching, without then ONIC is weak ass F
Bruh if kai-yeb not moved onic id with 4 best player id and coach adi still overshadow blck-echo domination and runner up cursed (except Baloyskie-Markyyy 😂)
if this happened during s10 then ye it would have been a fair statement but now every other member of Onic has stepped up their game
@@MrBlackSuit526I asked whether Kairi and Yeb could still shine when they were on the MY or SG team???
The thing is.... Vee and Wise are putting Kairi, Yeb and other filipino imports in a very difficult situation when they make a comment about being carried by pinoy. These imports are the one who will deal with the wrath of the indo fans for believing such comment. Please practice Less talk, less mistakes - be mindful of what you say. #RespectTheGame
And ID caster be also mindful for being defensive😂
it was indo caster who made it harder for ph importxs by comparing stat with ID PRO . like WTF? ofcourse ph will retaliate.
You people making it a big deal. This is just their opinion. Nothing more nothing less.
@@leonsilver6946 that is true, but that does not mean their opinion will not matter when its actually wrong, like wtf? ENTIRE MPL ID Compared stats with local and imports live? thats so toxic. what to expect with indo? they are even killing each other because of a football match
@@shevyalvia6491Are you forget when Manjean literally brought this "filipino carried" thing exactly before the final of MSC ? Onic's Social Media comment literally fulled by filipino when they won MSC and SPS. And you expect Indonesian would stay silence ?
Long story short, what Vee meant was that if they want to remove the label that "PH imports carried INDO" they should win a M world title again with a pure INDO team.
They just want kairi to back to blacklist. But if kairi back to blacklist he won't be able to carry them, blacklist is just too weak compared to onic
please not to be provoked by this fake news, It hurts to see this...
From day 1 playoff, Indo caster doesn't say "Indonesia is not carried by filipino" broo please... You only believe comments like that? Without proof video?
And veenus just believe what the person says without seeing the video... Broo please...😔😔😔
@@apalahcokk for real, blacklist is not that good now. The top 3 ph teams are Bren, RSG, dan Echo, blacklist is not one of them.
@@apalahcokk no one wants "who" back, they can stay there whenever the hell they want, I don't even know how you arrived at that conclusion when there are plenty of good options from the PH to consider if they want to replace their jungler. How did it even end up from me clarifying what V33 said to whose team is stronger now (You kinda forget how decorated V33 and Wise's careers).
@@fashlimakarim6757blacklist is literally top 3 in the regular season standings 💀💀. They've beaten bren twice during the regular season and rsg ph once. This is what happens when u only watch mpl in tiktok and youtube shorts lmao.
Lets just put it this way , Filipino Imports brought a HUGE impact in Indonesian team, but they are not the SOLE reason for onic’s victory
Yeb didn't really respond to them, he was more vs the Kairi esports stuff. Veewise responded to casters saying that ID isn't carried by the PH imports currently there, which they say isn't really the most realistic thing to say considering both GEEK and ONIC have PH players and coaches within them. It doesn't mean that they're complete trash without them, but if we look at ONIC's history, compare their recent MSC and M series with M3 and MSC 2022, can you really deny that Kairi and Yeb massively improved the team? Geek couldn't even make it to playoffs at all but with Baloy and Markyy, they're now bound for M5. They continue to say that because of these players and coaches, ID teams get a free look into how PH players think, play, train, prepare, and more, which really helps the teams grow and understand the game more as well as know better how to fight PH teams.
It's pretty much true though right? If ID really wants to shut everyone up, then an all ID team dominating MPL ID and then the next int'l tournament would be the most effective way, They even say that BTR was ID's best chance at this but unfortunately they were edged out by GEEK and ONIC by a bit
Yeb is basically saying that he can't win with his old team before. That means his team now is much better than baloyskie, marky, dlar and hate. 😂
BTW where is hate now?
@@LuminousHDXplaying in cambodia teams
@@danangraph1910 Which team?
Yes co'z during that time, Blacklist, RSG PH and OMEGA are way way way better than ONIC PH
@@LuminousHDX IMP kh but he left already and went to ph i saw him in dlar live stream
I'd say it depends on the extent of contribution that imported players offer.
Baloyskie reportedly took over the draft and commanded in-game. Marky the super sub literally bailed out Geek Fam when Cadera got read.
Coach Yeb brought coaching knowledge that complemented indo mechanics. Kairi is currently the best Jungler capable of skillfully using assassins and tank junglers.
I guess you could make a case that it's not like filipino imported players and coaches carried their teams. But you have to explain why top 2 teams in Indo are the teams with filipino imported players.
I would not blame Filipinos for trashtalking indo especially when the latter keeps on sh*tting on "Pignoys" as if they dominate ML without imports. 😬
I would not blame Coach Yeb and Kairi for defending Indo against "toxic" filipinos. After all, one should not bite the hand that feeds them. And they probably know more than what we see.
It's not indo it's "Indogs"
You're saying they only defends Indos caude they still work under them. What a load of crap, you dropped this 🧠
@@JackAss-xo3gp No you're just picking up what you dropped ✌️😉
Read the whole thing again until the end. I know you can do it. 😁
@@mikevin5238Baloy did that because the actual coach was in "ban" due to a middle finger incident.
True that some people think that coach Yeb can't bite the finger that feeds him, but really, if he agreed with VeeWise&others he doesn't have to make the video🤷🏻
@@mikevin5238 "One should not bite the hand that feeds them" literally talking about this part, but since you dropped your 🧠 I'm not that surprised.
In a game like mlbb, it is incorrect to state that a team is being carried by a specific player because success in this type of competition depends on team chemistry and synergy. Given that mlbb is a team sport rather than a solo or duo game, it is more appropriate to say that a particular player contributed rather than carried the entire team.
im a filipino and i rarely watch mpl ph, im more into mpl id cause for me they are more exciting to watch then add the english casters Mirko, arashi etc..and base on this ph-id beef i hope the other SEA countries butt in, i think it was more exciting Lol
Everyone should have seen Kairi without Onic, he didn't win, neither did Onic without Kairi, wherever he wanted to see, Onic was included in the top 3 teams and had a large collection of trophies before Kairi came.
how kairi and yeb will win championship when there is BLACKLIST that time? the UBE META is unbeattable that time 😂 it almost 1 year just to decode them..
@whin0079 that 's why they need onic id.after they join onic id they can become really strong which is now they can beat ube blacklist meta
@@mohdaryanadam2213 blacklist is already dead. UBE is not the meta now. many teams adapt to tank. not like before only wise and veenus would pick tank jungle and healer roamers.
@@whin0079 bro ube literally the strongest meta right now after big buff on support hero and new item for support
@@mohdaryanadam2213 oh my bad maybe healers are good now. but blacklist is not using same strat as before. i don't think they will go to m5. new players without veewise.
echo and bren.. i think. so the odds of onic is losing is not that high. blacklist before would beat any teams. that's why kairi got 0 here.
I'm a Filipino and they're both equal and good to be honest
Aahhh... you are normal filipino....nice to meet you i am indonesian, let them BACOT, let us enjoy the game.🎉
Filipino here✋ for me pH and Indo are good and equal team, they have the most intense fight in mlbb in South East Asia. For me let's support our team so we can avoid any toxic comments. REMEMBER WE ARE BROTHERS SPREAD LOVE❤️ NOT HITREAD.
Neither indo neither ph here but both team focus on completely different things during gameplay.. usually ph focus are on winning point making them slightly better however for mechanics..id is too good. Because of it..with knowledge of yeb and mix of both ph and id.. onic is such a good team atm
That's not equal cw replace by Albert they still win but Albert replaced kairi 0 hahah importnesia if Indo are strong why they need imports from ph are you crazy ? Bovo ka tlaga
@@liango8150That's not equal cw replace by Albert they still win but Albert replaced kairi 0 hahah importnesia if Indo are strong why they need imports from ph are you crazy ? You need import to win no indogs pride hahaha crazy indo
At the end of the day it is not about who are the players playing in a team, it is about what they achieve as a team. Regardless where the team members came from it is all about winning the competition.
ikr, am confused by this whole nationalism crap these people been talking about,
winning a game supposed to be pure joy and glory to the team especially MOBA,
people who trying to stain the glory of winning by bringing nationality having a very narrow mindset,
Shame on them, can't imagine how the player felt reading all of this comment about them winning the game get tainted by people mentioning nationality, as if their hardwork and unity is a joke.
Have you ever looked at the history of Onic ID?? Before there was Kairi, Onic had already won the MSC trophy..!! At that time it was held at PH... And another nickname for the king of the sky has been around for a while
And they have import on that no pure indo
@@egooygaming6583so u r telling Malaysia is stronger than indo and ph? Bcs onic have sasa which is a malaysian import and win msc
@@apalahcokk What they are referring to is that, if Indonesia wants to prove that they are the strongest region, they have to win with a full Indonesian line up.
@@realspicy528Vee also said They are being carried by Filipino.. Which is wayy too much over statement.
@@bunswaegimelon6896 Facts.
@DJYGaming bro you are getting this all wrong, you should watch Wolfcasts interview of Coach Yeb. In the interview Yeb clarified that the statement is for Kairi and for the Indonesian people who is bashing Kairi, and pointed out that it is in Bahasa hence it is for the Indonesians. The timeline is like this; (1) Indonesians bashing Onic Esports hence "digendong" is a Indonesian word. (2) Onic ID made a post (3) Kairi responded with "yg bilang kairi esport gada otak" (4) Kairi got bashed (5) Coach Yeb responded with video as seen here 1:45 .
Now, did Coach Yeb and Kairi knew about Veenus's statement, well we don't know for sure, what true though was their response to the Indonesian bashers.
@DJYGaming here is the interview also with the timestamp ua-cam.com/video/S6cVWfdqWmU/v-deo.htmlsi=4wXs3jRkbZZ3j-kA&t=2778 but it is in Filipino, Yeb said that he was wondering why Filipinos are reacting to the statement when it was directed to the Indonesian hence he use bahasa.
Also, why use that thumbnail? don't make it look like that Kairi's statement is for Veenus, looks like you are just promoting hate to both players.
Guys, PH jago di strategi dan kebiasaan mereka dalam game itu suatu kelebihan bagi mereka di Mobile Legends.
Dan Indonesia jago dalam masalah mekanik dan jago menekan dalam game.
Jadi, ketika kombinasi dari kebiasaan 2 negara ini menghasilkan Onic ID yang superpower.
Kesimpulannya, Onic ID tidak ada yang menggendong, itu pure kekuatan 5 Players. Bahkan banyak game Kairi bermain jungler tank, dia sebagai pengambil objektif, tetapi CW dan Sanz yang menjadi Eksekutor.
they forgot that EVOS Legends swept Blacklist in IESF with full Indo Lineup, not once but twice, yet still has the audacity to say this. Then they’ll say it doesn’t matter since it’s just IESF lmao
No pinoy but have Singaporian coach. Holyshit nag iisip kaba potang ina ka??!
And did you even try to understand what veenus meant before commenting this one? I bet not.
Tnx to Samsung meta 😂😂😂
and to think that winning IESF is enough to redeem such shitty region lmao
@@samanthaelysehe can't understand English bro bwhaha they said that there's rich but poor knowledge can't even understand what's the point of this issue....use your (money if you have) to repair you're Brain
It's hard to swallow for Indonesian fans, but the fact that, since Kairi played for Onic ID they won 3peat. When Albert tries to become their jungler in one of the series they did not win. And how many MVPs did Kairi won in MPL Indonesia? It's true that it takes a team effort to win but you can't deny the fact that Kairi made a very big impact since he came.
They are winning because onic as a team have improved, kairi is good but no single player can carry the whole team in every tournament at that lvl. Fact is there isn't a better mage than sanz in no region, no roamer better than kiboy so stop making excuses. It's a 5v5 game.
There's a difference between carrying and "missing the puzzle". Do PH fans even realized that Kairi won nothing in PH? his best Feats are being Runner-up in MPL PH & M3. ONIC WAS/IS a stable team since MPL ID season 3. The level of this "Overproud" and biased from PH fans are utterly Irritating. Stop watching some clips of Kairi doing dope things only, watch the entire game/matches instead. As for MVP, Sanz has the most MVPs in ONIC matches.
Bagay sayo comment ni kairi 😁
@@lalit8895stop being delusional 😂😂😂 sanz kiboy cw buts the one who make ONIC AIRPORT memes before?😂
wtf m3 8th place msc 13th place? even todak use lesly to them just to troll cause they are eliminated after the game 😂
@@lalit8895 ML IS LIKE BASKETBALL PH BASKETBALL TEAM CARRIED BY IMPORTS TO WIN.
I mean, if its the highest IQ player in MLBB who says it, its probably right. Players can get 0 kills and 10 deaths but still have the biggest impact. For example, Baloy
you do know the concept of "consistency", right? baloy usually shines great but when he flops its just over for GEEK. unlike kairi when he blundered in lord dance during MSC GF game 3 vs BLCK, underperforming while using haya, his comfort pick, in MSC groupstage vs BxF, and also 0/10 retri in MSC SF game 3 vs ECHO, even after those underperformances, ONIC still managed to win.
they both are great but they're still humans. what's the difference between baloy and kairi? when baloy flops, GEEK is over. this proves that GEEK is basically getting carried by baloy. when kairi flops, though? kiboy, sanz, buts, cw are there to cover for him. and also when any one of them flops, its kairi's turn to shine. thats how you know ONIC isn't only carried by kairi; and thats how they won MSC. it's carried by 5 of their players equally, covering for each other. 🙄
Comparison between kai and baloy is bad tho, they have different roles. When a pos5 underperforms or makes a blunder, it's usually a guaranteed snowball for the enemy. And when a jungler makes a retri blunder, it's not the end of the world yet, you can still wipe the enemy by preserving your ultimates.
but the first video when venus talked is came out after clarification from coach yeb, not the other way
I don't know why this is even an issue. You see, Cristiano Ronaldo plays in the Arab club right now called Al-Nassr. Does that mean Portugal is carrying the whole club? At the end of the day it's all about teamwork that you put on into it. Ronaldo will not be able to score a goal if he is playing alone right? This same goes for Kairi.
Coach Yeb said exactly what I think about this new trend of "[player's name] esports", especially towards Onic. Personally I'm convince that Onic wouldn't make it that far without Kairi and Yeb, but I also think that Kairi and Yeb wouldn't be winning without the entirety of Onic players as well. What makes Onic so strong right now is especially the synergy of their members combine with a masterfull draft plan from Yeb.
This toxicity towards Onic has to stop because it become more and more ridiculous. I know it is a sort of revenge after the "Philipause" trend but it going way to far now.
Also, I'm gonna say it, Veenus and Wise has to stop this arrogance. Those 2 don't even bother playing in season 12 but has the audacity to deny Indonesians improvement by calling it "no proof" ? What I see from these 2 is just salty that they lose in MSC final against Onic.
Did you even try to understand the point of the video? Showing stats and discrediting the impact of ph imports. It’s not about losing msc finals lol, this is about defending their fellow Filipinos being discredited.
@@samanthaelyse HAHAHA OTHERE COUNTRY CLAIM IMPORTS TO WIN...WITHOUT IMPORTS DO NOTHING THATS THE REASON
@@samanthaelysewho tf discrediting ph player? Even Indonesian agree that kairi is another level, but that doesn't make him can win against 9 player and carrying alone. It's just stupid to think someone can carry alone
@@samanthaelyse There's differents way to understand that. For me considering that they show players stats to respond to the thousands of comments saying "ID carried by PH...", that's not an attempts to discredit PH players at all. And also the words use by Veenus herself and I quote :
- Those stats couldn't be possible without Ph players.
- ID players had good stats because there's a PH player in their team.
- The only way for them to really prove themselves is to win a championship without PH. (Even tho BTR swept 3 Ph teams with a full indo lineup in SPS)
- Indo, you can't prove anything.
And don't get me wrong, Veenus understand that Indo showed those stats to defend themselves in the first place. So that means, those comments by VeeWise are truly discredit towards Indonesians improvement and what I call it, arrogance and saltyness. From 2 peoples who don't even play this season.
Think anything you want about that. I rest my case.
@@crophadeshuh? indo is the one who keeps barking .. every time they lose 😂 then when they win they bark alot... but they've won using imports that they say is PIGNOY and EATING PAGPAG 😂
do you get it? 😂😂 kairi,coach yeb, baloy marky are those PAGPAG EATERS, PIGNOY you are insulting..😂 and they are the one who got the champ and 2nd place in your own MPL.🤷
No imports no win. 👌👌
Yeb and kairi playing safe well 👏
Ini bela tim kocak lu pikir bela negara lawak lu miskin😂😂😂😂
FACT: Kairi has won a ton of internasional trophy before he JOIN ONIC ID
FACT: ONIC ID hasnt won any international trophy before KAIRI join ONIC ID
CONCLUSION: ONIC ID NEED KAIRI, KAIRI DOESN'T NEED ONIC ID
From this it can be seen that PH import will only shine if it is in a region that really understands Mobile Legends, in MY, SG, MENA and other regions. PH import is not visible
Exactly. For now, PH imports only shine in Indo. In MPL Malaysia, Homebois, who has no Philipino players at all, still manage to beat 3 teams who has one during the season 12 playoffs.
Yeah in MY Demonkite(RSG), Saxa(SMG), Mikko(SMG) lost to HB, in SG Hadess(Team Flash) lost to RSG and Kielvj and Sagitnu's team(Bleed) lost to Vanguard
Edit : Yeah RSG choked so hard in the Grand Finals and Team Flash won 4-3
Well except Cambodia MPtheking and susey(i cant remember his name) is going to represent cambodia under SeeYouSoon(Cambodia Team) but they nearly lost to a pure cambodian team(CFU Gaming) but thakfully they won 4-3
Not visible? Lol. In Indonesia Geek and Onic have Filipino. Cambodia Champion have Filipino. Singapore have Filipino. So technically speaking Filipinos are Champ in 3 other regions and you said not visible? What a joke
Ah I almost forgot.the team in Russia also have Filipino, it's the coach. And also in NA. They have Filipino
Hey bro, Kairi itu player PH sendirian.
Kalaupun dia sangat jago, dia gak bisa mengcarry tim sendirian, terlebih sulitnya membangun chemistry antar pemain karena tau sendiri bahasanya juga beda.
Tapi ada 1 hal yang sangat dan harus di akui bahwa kedatangan Kairi dan Coach Yeb, itu sama halnya membangunkan "Singa Tidur" (Indonesia team) dan memberingak angin segar juga kepercayaan diri untuk para player Indonesia. Dari M2 mental Tim Indo sudah jatuh karena kuatnya tim-tim dari PH, saat Kairi dan Yeb datang sama halnya seorang Psikolog datang ke Indo dan memberi tahu bahwa kita itu sebenernya kuat.
Setelah dapat arahan langsung dari Coach dan melihat Gameplay ala PH, sekarang Onic sudah tinggal jalanin saja, mereka sudah komplak dan sulit ditumbangkan. Jadi kalau sekarang bila ada yang bilang Kairi gendong Indo atau Kairi esport ya itu sudah tidak berlaku lagi.
actually they should have ignored that issue. i mean showing stats just to prove and looks like they discredit the contribution of the filipino player/players? actually its not just the filipino saying these stuff even indonesians saying that indonesian team can't win International tour again without foreign intervention because for the past years MPL ID was a joke. they love Drama and Hype the player with no impact therefore its a popularity contest.
The Indo caster said Indonesia isn't *carried* by PH. Carried is not the right word, as it discredit Indo players. Not the other way around. Help/improve is the more suitable word, as there's respect between these two countries.
Spread love guys. Be happy that pinoy-indo team is strong due to collaboration of countries. They showcased the power of collaboration and great chemistry.
Its not about the individuals country of origin
Its about who can prove themselves better as a team
you can't say you have a pride when you have an import players in your team, ph already have 3x mseries while indo have 1 so don't brag about their indo pride when its not full indo players.
we pay your f player, its indonesian team not filipino team. @@youokay6742
the previous MSC that onic won they had beaten echo and blacklist who have full ph team, did the whole nation of Philippines lose to kairi and coach yeb if indo player does not perform.
Chemistry of 2 country... You know some say indo is very good at mechanics but not that good in marco. While ph is very goods at marco and mechanics. Put that together you think that will not result to good team.
SEAGAMES FULL INDOGS IS NOTHING
Your full Indo onic without kairi and yeb exit early in msc 2021 and m3..
Because yeb know ph weakness
@@smallbutterfly786the sea games was stupid because the pick evos over onic, even the whole indonesian is confused
It's funny how some people take veewise comment as if it came out of nowhere, like they randomly said to indonesian teams "champion first with full indo lineup" when in fact it was a topic sent to their podcast by their viewers. Their viewers get to give topics or questions to Veewise so they can give their opinions/answers to that. Veewise was commenting on the topic of an indo caster trying to prove that there is no such thing as being "carried by a Filipino" by using statistics, which veewise deemed unnecessary because that would only make them appear defensive. But since they really want to prove that, veewise thought that the only way to do that is for indo team to get a championship again with full indo line up in order to silence the "carried by a Filipino" issue because if not it would only continue.
And isn't it malicious to put coach yeb's live and kairi's comment specifically addressing "kairi esports" issue together with veewise podcast as if they were referring to Veewise when veewise never mentioned the word "kairi esports" in their podcasts? veewise are giving their opinion generally.
One thing that I don't understand, why is ph fans still so fixated on the idea that they're the strongest region when the evidence says otherwise, not one team can beat echo in mpl ph but 3rd rate onic team swept the floor with them, I just don't get it
Imagining practicing so much to improve your game on every statistic just for people to say your getting carried by an import that gotta hurt
The logic is like this, if the pH players are strong, why can they lose to Onic, who has 1 PH player and 4 Indonesian players. 5 PH people aren't enough to beat 1 PH and 4 Indos, Kairi started out like most beginner players It took a long process to get to where she is now. If Kairi hadn't moved to Keonic Indo, she wouldn't have been as successful as she is now.
How many ph imports are there in the world??? How many indo imports are there in the world??? Yup we dont need those they are good for nothing
The logic is why do they need ph import if 4 of them can actually beat ph players
She ? 😂
Simply because you tried hard to be spoken in dollar...wrong gamming eglishing fucking king king..bwiset ka
@@Noirplayss maybe he thought he was referring to vee
Venus had a point right there. But the things that makes team good is chemistry
it's sad that he can't state his point without trashtalking
@@chocho6766 i dont think it's a trash talking. Well depend on how you view it. For me what he said is not wrong where ONIC had a PH player on their teams. Its a fact u cannot change unless there's no PH player on ONIC. It is what it is
Funny because Philippines was actually winning the Seagames in Mobile Legends with a rookies that doesn't know each other yet.
@@PlayfulPinoyGamer so you said if they don't know each other they don't have chemistry ?
@@chocho6766 Fun fact Omyvenus along with rookies destroy the Indonesian All-star in Sea Games. 😂😂 Meow.
To indo fans out there don't go on hating veewise before you undeestand the full context of what vee said. Vee's comment were directed at the whole mlbb production team and casters. His point was indo does not need to defend themselves against mindless people saying ph players carried the indo teams. What the casters and production did by showing stats is immature and awkward. Let fans say what they want but the whole mlbb production and casters must be mature enough to not get swayed by what the fans are saying. Indo doesn't need to prove anything, why be immature and televise stats just to compare?. Indo is already good with or without ph players, there is nothing to prove.
Pernah ada statement host asal Filipina yang mengatakan, jika tim Indo menang melawan Ph, itu karena mereka digendong player Ph, ini jelas pemikiran yang salah dan keliru.
Jika anda mendewa dewa kan player asal Ph, dan mereka sangat hebay didalam bermain, ANALOGI KAN SAJA, PLAYER PH YANG 5 KALAH OLEH PLAYER PH YANG HANYA 1 ORANG.
permainan mobile legend adalah permainan 5 vs 5, kalian mengagungkan Kairi seakan akan hanya dia yang bermain di tim itu sendiri, mengesampingkan tugas Sanz, Kiboy, Cw dan buttss
The reason why they're champ 3 season straight in mpl id and msc is because they train together for hundreds of hours, they build up chemistry and learn both macro/micro skill together. it's a team effort. ikrr ppl keep saying kairi esports, but for that to come from a very well respected player like Veenus? honestly never expect it, coz im sure she knows in order to be champ the whole team need to train hard and one player cannot carry the whole team. honestly... i aint gonna sugarcoat things anymore, veewise in that interview was tripping balls.
cw ganti sama Albert mereka tetep menang tapi Albert ganti kairi 0 hahaha importnesia kalau Indo kuat kenapa butuh import dari ph crazy indogs dua perwakilan Indo M5 semua playernya masih ada PH hahaha nangis indogz
The main reason because MPL Indo are weak kairi never win in MPL PH because the player are strong here in ph
@@mavenbani6613ulol
@@mavenbani6613 Thank you for pointing out sir, but that had been proven wrong in MSC so it's disregarded.
@@youronlyLex accept the fact if no import happen no more win in Indo in MSC I'm just saying fact
I mean veenus & wise are not particularly wrong they're just stating the facts since ph win the sea games & iesf while indo couldn't win without a Filipino player on their roster that's the reality indo couldn't accept even if indo win M5 a lot of people will still doubt them cause they have a Filipino player on their team the only way indo can prove that their not being carried by Filipino players is by winning the sea games and iesf.
The words "getting carried" is wrong bro, all players at onic and geek was good. No one was get carried
are you serious? ID won against PH in IESF 2022 tho? full indo vs full PH. And did you guys talk about it? no not at all. As far as I remember, they did talk about it a littttttle, and they made an excuse of not being used to the phones used in the tournament, a lame ass excuse. And PH won the IESF 2023. You win and you lose. But you're loud on your wins and you make excuses on your losses. :)
@@haras0047yeah Indo won IESF 2022 but how about m2 m3 m4 SeaGames ? 😂😂😂
@@haras0047 INDONESIA is far 2nd 😂😂😂😂
@@haras0047win Iesf with plus what about m2 m3 M4 seagames
Even coach yeb did not win a title in ph so kairi just carried him to get a title 😢😂
How many ph imports are there in the world??? How many indo imports are there in the world??? Yup we dont need those they are weak
Coach yeb and kairi can't get a title here in Ph because they are competing with world champions, msc champion,and SEA games gold medalists. Meanwhile in indo they're playing against weaker teams. You can't compare mpl ph to mpl indo.
Padahal coach yeb, kairi, baloy, marky, mereka tidak ada paksaan untuk bergabung tim indonesia
Mereka berjuang sama player indonesia. susah, sedih, senang, bahagia bahkan merayakan kemenangan bersama timnya saat mengalahkan tim dari filipina dan belum tentu di filipina sana mereka bisa sebahagia di indonesia
Kairi yeb bilang gak setuju, tapi dalam hati mereka ngakak
Tbh in my opinion, what makes PH so strong right now is their rotation knowledge and quick decision making. It may be true when it comes to mechanic Indo is better but mechanics dont win games, decision making and rotation do. Because of that, indo's are always one step behind of PH. The presence of these PH players in the team covers Indo weaknesses which created a strong Team
I think PH teams can switch their gameplay and plan mid game. Most do not tunnel vision into one gameplay. They can adjust mid game. I have seen this in mpl ph games.
@@katariaxx yes this too, i take it as like decision making. to decide to change your gameplay mid game is something that's not easy. That's why they're hard to predict
Kaire and coach yeb is playing safe to indo fans😂😂😂
Another clown 🤡
You know what's the problem it's imports unlike other there's no problem of imports but this is nonsense always Makin toxicity
Truth hurts carried by a filipino, coach yeb and kairi is indo what do you expect to their response?😂😂😂 Kairi esports is real you have another jungler but didnt use him how can you create team chemistry if kairi always play? Im not telling its albert 😂😂😂
@@LecraceWe paid kairi better than ur poor country 🤡
Onic is strong even in MPLI they beat PH team without Kairi and what happen with Onic PH and Kairi didnt win M3 tho?
the mentality in veenus' and wise statements are understandable because of bias, but so backward thinking. the way kairi and yeb migrated to ID and prevail with onic was really due to a great mixture of talent and mechanics. i bet that you put this team in any country's mpl and they will probably smash all of them simply because their combination and chemistry is top knotch.
Venus is responding to indo caster not about the kairi esports thing, you need to check the context first
@@CommonWealth13 i want to know when id caster said it, can you give me a source?
@@CommonWealth13 this fake news shit
@@CommonWealth13 i understand that bro. And we can establish that PH has the best mlbb for sure. But doesnt necessarily mean that ID has to prove that they have to win an international without PH players, as veenus said, to prove that kairi is not carrying that team. Definitely an influence for sure, but not solely him.
You did not get it
Venus knows what she's talking, shes not only an experience player. But also understand the game itself and chemistry. She is not talking about the chemistry of the team. But her point was rhat If Indonesian wanted to compete in International tournament and disregarding the huge contribution of Coach Yeb and Kairi then Go full Indo.
The saddest part is that Indonesian fans is trying their best to prove that Kairi and coach Yeb was not the main key of their success.
They also mentioned that Kairi doesn't get any achievement in the MPL PH before. It is because Philippine Tournament is way more competitive. Thats why in the past M tournament its always a PH franchise teams that always goes to the Finals.
The way the Indo fans are so happy when Kairi didn't play and they got the W. Just means that Indo fans are trying their best to get rid of Kairi. But because he is still usable Kairi is still playing.
That's why I love this game, cz the community trash talking each other..
The game is interesting, and the community also interesting for me.
Keep it up 😂
Pftt this literally problem the imports always saying imports meta carry 1 player doesn't make sense instead support them unlike other game there's no problem about imports
Let's also talk about the fact that 4 TOB players are from Asia not NA. 🤣
They're Americans.....
Illiterate 💀
Why do people think Americans should be white dudes with European lineage? The U.S. was built on immigration. Nobody's expecting a group of Native Americans to represent NA in any esports event.
They are imports? I thought only two imports are allowed
@@christianjakepalma6839not imports. They have American citizenship
To defend Vee, Vee is just answering what the CASTER said. With all due respect to EVERY MLBB PRO PLAYER and to ALL MLBB PLYAERS WORLDWIDE, this is a TEAM GAME. No one is carrying anyone. Every player will do anything just to help their teammates regardless if it’s from getting most of the kills or assists or sacrificing themselves just to get the W.
Duo gay is just no attitude. Saying carried is not the right word. Combined or helped is the right word
@@centaurypower2572they said that because of the indo caster discredit the work of PH import in indonesia. Some indo's like you have low understanding that's why ur mad of the statement of veewise. Watch and understand the whole statement in podcast, okay?
@@lyricsgamingg I don't care, carried is not the right opinion period. His opinion is not valid.
@@centaurypower2572Why do you say so? Are you a judge to invalidate such statement?
@@dakokoy-san425 of course if u really know what's that mean
Won't deny that there's definitely been moments where the Filipinos carried the Indo teams, but haters are just salty that Indo teams are stronger now and keep bashing them.
The team and players are just the final pieces of the puzzle to each other, without either of them, they wouldn't have their achievements now.
Salty isn't the right wrong but more of like stating facts by Vee and fans.Indo teams are getting strong because of them adopting Ph teams culture
@@pattikeyk2910 stating facts where ?
From a gay who didn't accept to hand shake after losing to echo and onic ?
You think venus respects any team who beats his gay healing meta? Hell no
Venus is one of the most narcissistic guy
@@kp00pDestroyer1 Well, let's be honest, that gay said something logical that it's already a huge statement of facts. If they really want to win with their pride, they have to bring a team with no imports. He didn't directly bash the Indo, he's just saying the logic.
@@Frenzyyy_Officialsomething logical ?? They say win first by full indo so why they choked in first iesf by full evos. Use your brain first before talk poor gaygent pinoy🤓🤓
@@godlaner2149 Well, can't you accept the fact that Vee said the facts? I'm not exaggerating, but the imports made a huge impact on MPL ID. If you Indo really want to win with your "pride" then prove to us that you can win without an import whatsoever. After all, you guys are just mad because of that but you guys also don't look at what's facts.
The way I see it, Veenus and Wise' statements are not necessarily their opinions. They're weighing on the public's debate on this issue. They're saying that as long as Indonesia has Filipino players in M5, people are not going to stop the claim they're carried by Filipinos. The translation is correct but cannot capture this kind of intent. Context is very important.
But people doesn't look for context but only headlines, that makes it stupid of these clips.
before baloyskie entered geekfam, that team is a bonus round, he carried them to playoffs. now add marky then reached grand finals. stats is not everything. you cant change the fact the impact of just of marky and baloy and they were able to bring out the best of geekfam who were continuously mocked by their countrymen for the rest of the mpl history. if that's not being carried by a filipino idk what it is 😅
So let baloy and marky duo on m5😂😂,lets see if they can win,if u truly underestimated the rest of the geek members
Look at the big picture,
Fact: PH is dominating the M series, from M2 to M4. with M4 and M5 Both PH VS PH finals. imagine PH winning again M5
Fact: INDO even assembled a super team with all their best players but still failed 😂
if ever INDO wins a M series with a PH import player then no debate. PH players carried INDO they have broken PH momentum
Everyone can debate and say their opinions but you cannot deny the facts
all they need to do is just win with all INDO team on M series.
Just look YEB's statements, its half hearted. Of course YEB and Kairi are not insane to tell the truth 😂
Wait for M5 and count how many PH import players are representing other regions
Its not just Filipino Imports, there are also imports from other countries like Naomi at one of their top teams. At this point, I dont think Indo Pride still exist. They better accept the fact that MPL Indo is just made for publicity, business, and advertising, not for talents, pride, and competence.
Gay strat like MobaCry
Kairi in team ph = 0 trophy😅
Indo without Kairi - back to back 12th Internationally
Yes, kairi in onic ph never won MPL . Moba is about team fight and chemistry. Not individually.
a whole bunch of noob indogs right here😂😂 you can't accept the fact that's indogs can't win international games without kairi😢😢😢truth hurt's😂😂
coz Veewise happen
Mpl pH is hard tournament 😂,
When Kairi himself does not agree with "Kairi Esports" you know something is wrong
Let's go coach yeb, let's put Albert if they're facing veenus 😁👍💪
V33nus only say facts tho
Kairi in team ph? 0 win. And that fact
@@Narcissustbruh he was saying on that at indonesian caster
@@Narcissustso brainless just like what Venus have said if you Indonesian want to prove something, win the international without having imports, player or coach simple as that
No Kairi, no win🥶
@@Eshiiiii can't win international against PH? Get import from pH 😭😭😭
Indopride? Begging Filipino players to win and make your country look at top but in reality, Indo can't win without having any imports WAHAHAH
average overproud Philippines😪
how can you not overproud if we're winning every international tournaments and your mpl id finalists have both filipino players so how can you not be proud by that?
@@stopppp2059Too proud,overproud
1 ph with 4 Npc vs 5 ph echo still lose. trash 😂😂😂😂
Onic MSC 2023 bi like: forgot about 7 Lord defense? M4 champs lose against 1 PH and 4 ID as u considering they got carried?
@@jobetkujo7855Lmao you guys call yourself Indo pride without even thinking their is still pH import in your team?
What a clown🤡 Indo can't accept that imports carry every game...Sea games doesn't have import Look what happened...Just stating FACTS!
#Nohate
Those who says Kairi esport jeopardize career of Kairi and Yeb in Indonesia, even they both performed well, they still have a high chance to be removed in Indonesia.
sana hindi maging issue yan kasi kun yan ang paniniwla ng mga indo oh okay but in our mind its a big help n may filipino.. laking tulong yan sa mga kababayan ntin n players… meron silang spot light n d masyado dito sa pinas. kun d sila magimport ng filipino wala work yun iba. kaya wag nyo ipagsigawan at i bash ang mga indo kasi mawawala ang pinagkikitaan ng ating kapwa pinoy. just be proud n may pinoy pero WAG MAGYABANG!!! ndadamay yun kapwa nyo pinoy..be matured enough para magisip d n kayo BATA….😤😤😤
That Thumbnail pointing Kairi saying "no brain" to venus is gold 🤌😂
That's intentional to trigger some fans 🤣
but V33nus has the highest IQ in MLBB according to all casters and team analysts.
If kairi agree he doomed by indo fans😂😂
@@voteyeseo9934 Well, Higher IQ can mean someone smart but still be a jerk with low EQ. We can argue that someone with low EQ is considered as "no brain" 🤣
Lol of course Kairi and the Coach will defend their employer 😂😂😂
Carried or not u can't deny ph imports definitely have a huge impact.
Indonesia and Philippines are the strongest in ML and players combined from these two nation forming a team became unbeatable. Also people need to understand that ML is a 5 man game not individual. Venus is salty because team onic took his spot light, instead of doing controversy he better figure out his real gender
Dont you dare talking about indonesian E-sports team,they're one of the strongest MLBB player...love from Malaysia,Dont let their word inti you 🇲🇾🇲🇾❤️❤️
its not kairi esports. basically ph players and coaches taught them how to adopt to ph gameplays and fuse it with indo gameplays.
meaning to say that without ph people's help, they wouldn't be able to win on their own.
ill give you an example, its like a war between country and indonesia has spy from ph giving away informations and strategies who do you think has an advantage? 🙂