Stop this rules of dividing people. All these castes are part of Sanathana Dharma and part of Hinduism. The Congress is just playing politics to hide his lack of development. Congress is playing divide and rule of the people.
@@mageshmak110 then why their are castes among lingayats ? Don't fool us. My friend was saying that he is an dalit lingayat and you are saying that there is no castes in lingayat. Lingayat is an part of Hinduism. You can't deny it. Shivji is itself proof of it. If you want to make different religion than stop worshipping shivji.
ಇಬ್ಭಾಗ ಮಾಡುವುದು ಬಹಳ ಸುಲಭ ಒಂದುಗೂಡಿಸುವ ಬಹಳ ಕಷ್ಟ ,೧೦೦ ಇದ್ದುದು ೫೦ ,೫೦ ಇದ್ದುದು ೨೫, ಹೀಗೆ ೧೦ ಇದ್ದದು ೫ ,೨ ಇದ್ದುದು ೧ ,ಕಡೆಗೆ ನಮ್ಮ ೧ ಜೀವವನ್ನೆ ಇಬ್ಭಾಗ ಮಾಡಬೇಕಾಗಿ ಬರುತ್ತದೆ
I think it is about group identity. As Mother India as a country becomes bigger on the world stage in this century, both sides will feel very comfortable. So much so that they may say there was no need to fight.
Indian culture is highly complex .No one should dare to differentiate or define Indian culture in a smaller context . Please don't divide Indian Civilisation .
Bro are you blind didn't you see the ias officer what he said? This debate is over hundreds of hundreds of years ago. And now you are blaming congress. Your a hater..
In theory, caste is not there at all In Vedas also, there is no birth based caste..... but in practice, castes and sub-castes r evolved everywhere through course of time This is the reality
Rαmαкrìsнnα S. A. Then bjp people not removing caste only talks to remove caste reservation.in hindu caste still exist and people killed in the name of caste.only brahmin were allowed to do poojas in temple.this show hindus caste discrimnation.bro talk about that first.
Caste reservations along with caste discrimination will after few decades Till then nobody can dare to remove any thing Indian society evolved into different communities with their own language, custom, costume, cuisine, culture, caste, geography and so on So it will take time to change
Rαmαкrìsнnα S. A. Yes at last u understood lingayat is also religion which have right to follow there own rituals..so no one have rights to oppose them.india is a secular state everyone have the rights to follow their own beliefs.it depends on their culture and belief.
Correction in below msg. Since Veerashaivas following Vaidik Hindu purohitashahi then how can we call them Lingayats which itself is deadly opposite to vaidik hindu purohitashahi
Let thousands more religions to come but we are only ONE type of HUMAN. As long as love is in our hearts we remain humans. We should always strictly respect all religion and their practises immaterial of conditions. Humans shall attain peace only when they realize early dharma's basic teachings. # ONDRE KULAM ORUVANE THEVAN. # YEMATHAMUM SAMMATHAM MAY. # ONDRUL YIRUNTHUTHN AANAITHAIYUM ALUBHAVAN ORUVANNE. # LOVE ALL, SERVE ALL # ANBE SIVAM All religions teaches the basic fundamental love - all God wanted is pure love (bhakti is a form of love). Anbe Sivam. SaiRam🙏❤🙏
adding Lingayats to hinduism is like adding buddhism to hinduism. ho common ppl it's so clear that lingayats has vary different culture than we hindus. such as (a) they don't do any idols worship they just follow basavanna. (b)they don't have any cast s/m. (c)yes, they worship linga but please know the fact that its not hindu god shiva linga its different linga which represent humans inner sole.
Lot of Hindu sects like Arya Samaj, Shankardev in Assam dont worship idol. Lingayats worship idol for sure. What is the linga except an prrsonal idol? You chant Om namah Shivaya and wear bhibuti and Rudraksha. So, you call you are not Hindus? Study Hinduism first before critiqing it. NO Hindu scriptures nor any Hindu sects support caste. See my comments above. Above all, Basavanna himself never claimed Lingayats as separate dharma, rather claimed it to be true Veerashaiva.
Sanjoy Dey, seriously..!! yes even i have seen lot of lingayats going to temple but it does not mean they r hindu and worship idol, it means they don't have knowledge in this hindu dominated society. n btw they never say "om namah shivaya" /* for more reference refer Maate Mahadevi talk in public tv */ and even Buddha never claimed buddhism is dharma but his successful followers were brave enough to categorize their dharma.
skp orange I think you have zero knowledge about lingayats, we go to Hanuman temple every Saturday and ganpati every Tuesday. We have different castes such as aynaar, banagar , banajgyar etc. Get your facts right
Lingayat religion is founded by guru Basavanna, who strongly openly opposed vaidik hindu dharma & gave deadly opposite dharma called Lingayat dharma which is against purohitshahi vaidik Hindu dharma. He gave very revolutionary ideology of Ishta Linga which totally disallows going to temples. Basavanna said why there should be vaidik Hindu pujari purohit between god & bhakt. That is why he gave ishta linga ideology saying god is always in your chest and not through pujari. Since Veerashaivas also follow vaidik purohitashahi dharma, then we can call them Lingayat. Since Basavanna followers who are Lingayat have become nearly 80% in majority, hence due to fear these Veerashaiva started calling themselves as Veerashaiva Lingayat just by borrowing word Lingayat.
Hinduism 🕉️ means mix culture in single cultural way of life 🙂 all religious faiths and culture they made in land of sindhu river means India they all are called Hinduism 🕉️ 🙂 means lingayat and veerashaiva are hindus 🕉 ok 😉 and it is fact 🙂
There is no religion called lingayath called in any vedas or in sidhantha chinthamani Veerashaiva is not religion its dharma and it came from sri veerabadhra swamy him self and panchacharyas is the moola of veerashaiva Comming linghayath basavanna is not the founder of linghayath he was great guru of shaiva People used to call lingavantharu time passed on it became linghayath now all this political people making this unwanted issues and trying to fool people and dived us where therr is no recrords calling linghayath as caste this is only because they want us to be divided and make us minority and play games with us stating they have done great help to our religion hindu dharna is great and be a hindu
There is a persistent matter which requires clarification and action revolving around birth of the religion's name Hinduism that should have been named Induism evolving from the name Paramatma Ishwar ( Parambrahman Shiva's Atma Jyoti, the only God as per Sanathana Dharma I.e Everything is formed, existing and evolving through Parambrahman Shiva's Atma Jyoti). This didn't take place because of the manipulation of Indu demigods devotees, The British during their reign in India, the Indians practising foreign religions in India whom wanted to hide the fact that Induism stemmed from Paramatma Ishwar. How is it justified that Induism should be called Hinduism due to the origin of Sindhu river as both the names of Hindu and Sindhu is far apart. Therefore, Induism, Veerasaivam, Buddhism, Lingayat all evolved from Parambrahman Shiva, the ONE & ONLY GOD
All Indian langauges are dependent on Devnagri font. The Sanskrit is mother of all all Indian Subcontinent languages. What u will achieve by declaring it religion. A political Position.
No philosophical discussion about how they are different. Rather only Hindu bashing is done in the name of caste. How dare are you to call one billion Hindus of the world as castist? No Hindu scriptures nor any current Hindu sects support casteism. Caste was prevalant in medieaval era, and every Hindu saints did lot of reforms starting from Adi Shankara down to recent Swami Vivekananda.
It's required to break Hinduism which humiliate n treat it's foot soldiers as slaves. This is karma u get what u did. This had to happen n will continue to happen until the Hindus moral principals improve. Enjoy ur fate don't cry n blame on others for your own misdeeds.
Lingayata are not hindu they not worship any hindu gods they worship they worship ishtalinga they don't believe in castism untouchability Same way dhngara kurubra thet are not hindu they belong to halumata because they don't worship any hindu god they worship their own gods
Brother lingayats are in majority and they are against the vaidik rituals 😢 they are demanding their own dharma🥱 which is meaningless 😂 veershaivas is part of shaivism which is came into practice by 5 acharyas !! And they were gurus of many saints like adi Shankaracharya, agastya , durvasa and all🥲 but these people are trying to merge it with lingayats which doesn't make any sense !! Nowadays veershaivas are very minor and they are also considered as great vaidik Brahmins in Mahabharata you can read the conversation of Arjuna and Krishna he said that the people who worships god shiva or lingdharkas are the great devotee ss . But this so called lingayat concept which came into existence in 12th ad created by basvanna is totally change from Hindu rituals 😢 they don't follow any ved puranas like veershaivas , and don't practice the yaggya's . And they are saying that both are same😂 it is totally a propaganda 👀 you can read the siddhant shikamani written by renukacharya who founded veershaiva sect in Hinduism and taught to many great saints!!
Lingayat veerashaiva both are part of Hinduism 🕉️ 🙂
I am proud to be a Hindu.Please, don't divide Hinduism.It is a holy way of life has been practiced since the creation.
Hindus are divided into 6500 castes by birth.
Mahatma Basavanna tried to unite all divided castes into Lingayat religion
We are one no matter what 💪
i am hindu lingayath
Jai veerasaiva lingayath ,jai basava
Jai. Ligayata. Darama 🙏🙏
Linkayat and veershiva also hindhu
According to their logic then all sects of Hinduism should be announced as different religion because they are all very different from one another.
Jai Lingayat Dharma
Stop this rules of dividing people. All these castes are part of Sanathana Dharma and part of Hinduism. The Congress is just playing politics to hide his lack of development. Congress is playing divide and rule of the people.
Prasad first remove caste in hindusim..lingayat is much better than that . No caste discrimnation
@@venkatramprasad1157 i am Ganesh veera saiva lingayath and Tamilnadu i am supporting Yadaiyurappa
@@mageshmak110 then why worshipping our Hindu god shiva
@@mageshmak110 then why their are castes among lingayats ? Don't fool us. My friend was saying that he is an dalit lingayat and you are saying that there is no castes in lingayat. Lingayat is an part of Hinduism. You can't deny it. Shivji is itself proof of it. If you want to make different religion than stop worshipping shivji.
ಇಬ್ಭಾಗ ಮಾಡುವುದು ಬಹಳ ಸುಲಭ ಒಂದುಗೂಡಿಸುವ ಬಹಳ ಕಷ್ಟ ,೧೦೦ ಇದ್ದುದು ೫೦ ,೫೦ ಇದ್ದುದು ೨೫, ಹೀಗೆ ೧೦ ಇದ್ದದು ೫ ,೨ ಇದ್ದುದು ೧ ,ಕಡೆಗೆ ನಮ್ಮ ೧ ಜೀವವನ್ನೆ ಇಬ್ಭಾಗ ಮಾಡಬೇಕಾಗಿ ಬರುತ್ತದೆ
ಅಧೀಶ ತೂಡ್ತಿಲ್ಲಾಯ ಎಂ ibbaga madtha illa yake hige think madthira navu ella barathiyaru onde
Navella Hindu
I think it is about group identity.
As Mother India as a country becomes bigger on the world stage in this century, both sides will feel very comfortable.
So much so that they may say there was no need to fight.
Indian culture is highly complex .No one should dare to differentiate or define Indian culture in a smaller context . Please don't divide Indian Civilisation .
Champa is definately a crow 😅🤣🤣Wing poet
congress has once again divide hindu's i think they are crimnals
You motherfucking ass lingayat os seperate religion for 900 years.. Congress BJP has nothing to do with it... Don't politicize it... Study first
Yes..
Bro are you blind didn't you see the ias officer what he said? This debate is over hundreds of hundreds of years ago. And now you are blaming congress. Your a hater..
there politician were chor
main leaders who asked separate religion for lingayat are dead now. Want to continue this further?
yes do not split hindus......im veerashaiva lingayat hindu.....i respect all the cultures of hinduism
After dividing Hindus, what will u get?
Rαmαкrìsнnα S. A. In lingayat there is not caste discrimination like hindu .equal importance to everyone not on the based of caste.
In theory, caste is not there at all
In Vedas also, there is no birth based caste..... but in practice, castes and sub-castes r evolved everywhere through course of time
This is the reality
Rαmαкrìsнnα S. A. Then bjp people not removing caste only talks to remove caste reservation.in hindu caste still exist and people killed in the name of caste.only brahmin were allowed to do poojas in temple.this show hindus caste discrimnation.bro talk about that first.
Caste reservations along with caste discrimination will after few decades
Till then nobody can dare to remove any thing
Indian society evolved into different communities with their own language, custom, costume, cuisine, culture, caste, geography and so on
So it will take time to change
Rαmαкrìsнnα S. A. Yes at last u understood lingayat is also religion which have right to follow there own rituals..so no one have rights to oppose them.india is a secular state everyone have the rights to follow their own beliefs.it depends on their culture and belief.
Jai Lingayat Dharma.... 👍
We're not Hindu and we opposed vaidhik shaivik traditions...
Correction in below msg. Since Veerashaivas following Vaidik Hindu purohitashahi then how can we call them Lingayats which itself is deadly opposite to vaidik hindu purohitashahi
Let thousands more religions to come but we are only ONE type of HUMAN. As long as love is in our hearts we remain humans. We should always strictly respect all religion and their practises immaterial of conditions. Humans shall attain peace only when they realize early dharma's basic teachings.
# ONDRE KULAM ORUVANE THEVAN.
# YEMATHAMUM SAMMATHAM MAY.
# ONDRUL YIRUNTHUTHN AANAITHAIYUM ALUBHAVAN ORUVANNE.
# LOVE ALL, SERVE ALL
# ANBE SIVAM
All religions teaches the basic fundamental love - all God wanted is pure love (bhakti is a form of love).
Anbe Sivam. SaiRam🙏❤🙏
adding Lingayats to hinduism is like adding buddhism to hinduism.
ho common ppl it's so clear that lingayats has vary different culture than we hindus.
such as (a) they don't do any idols worship they just follow basavanna.
(b)they don't have any cast s/m.
(c)yes, they worship linga but please know the fact that its not hindu god shiva linga its different linga which represent humans inner sole.
Lot of Hindu sects like Arya Samaj, Shankardev in Assam dont worship idol. Lingayats worship idol for sure. What is the linga except an prrsonal idol? You chant Om namah Shivaya and wear bhibuti and Rudraksha. So, you call you are not Hindus? Study Hinduism first before critiqing it. NO Hindu scriptures nor any Hindu sects support caste. See my comments above. Above all, Basavanna himself never claimed Lingayats as separate dharma, rather claimed it to be true Veerashaiva.
Sanjoy Dey, seriously..!! yes even i have seen lot of lingayats going to temple but it does not mean they r hindu and worship idol, it means they don't have knowledge in this hindu dominated society.
n btw they never say "om namah shivaya" /* for more reference refer Maate Mahadevi talk in public tv */
and even Buddha never claimed buddhism is dharma but his successful followers were brave enough to categorize their dharma.
skp orange I think you have zero knowledge about lingayats, we go to Hanuman temple every Saturday and ganpati every Tuesday. We have different castes such as aynaar, banagar , banajgyar etc.
Get your facts right
Naruto_Uzumaki _007 , again plz watch mate mahadevi talk in Public TV. U will get to know about your own Dharma. Hope u r from south Karnataka.
@@teamstark1018 bhimte is desh ke kalank he aur rahenge na to unka koi contribution he desh ke liye bus desh ko todne me focus krte he
Equality : Hello deccan herald, please allow women inside mosque.
Deccan herald : women not allowed in mosque. Islam is true religion
Lingayat religion is founded by guru Basavanna, who strongly openly opposed vaidik hindu dharma & gave deadly opposite dharma called Lingayat dharma which is against purohitshahi vaidik Hindu dharma. He gave very revolutionary ideology of Ishta Linga which totally disallows going to temples. Basavanna said why there should be vaidik Hindu pujari purohit between god & bhakt. That is why he gave ishta linga ideology saying god is always in your chest and not through pujari. Since Veerashaivas also follow vaidik purohitashahi dharma, then we can call them Lingayat. Since Basavanna followers who are Lingayat have become nearly 80% in majority, hence due to fear these Veerashaiva started calling themselves as Veerashaiva Lingayat just by borrowing word Lingayat.
Hinduism 🕉️ means mix culture in single cultural way of life 🙂 all religious faiths and culture they made in land of sindhu river means India they all are called Hinduism 🕉️ 🙂 means lingayat and veerashaiva are hindus 🕉 ok 😉 and it is fact 🙂
There is no religion called lingayath called in any vedas or in sidhantha chinthamani
Veerashaiva is not religion its dharma and it came from sri veerabadhra swamy him self and panchacharyas is the moola of veerashaiva
Comming linghayath basavanna is not the founder of linghayath he was great guru of shaiva
People used to call lingavantharu time passed on it became linghayath now all this political people making this unwanted issues and trying to fool people and dived us where therr is no recrords calling linghayath as caste this is only because they want us to be divided and make us minority and play games with us stating they have done great help to our religion hindu dharna is great and be a hindu
There is a persistent matter which requires clarification and action revolving around birth of the religion's name Hinduism that should have been named Induism evolving from the name Paramatma Ishwar ( Parambrahman Shiva's Atma Jyoti, the only God as per Sanathana Dharma I.e Everything is formed, existing and evolving through Parambrahman Shiva's Atma Jyoti). This didn't take place because of the manipulation of Indu demigods devotees, The British during their reign in India, the Indians practising foreign religions in India whom wanted to hide the fact that Induism stemmed from Paramatma Ishwar. How is it justified that Induism should be called Hinduism due to the origin of Sindhu river as both the names of Hindu and Sindhu is far apart. Therefore, Induism, Veerasaivam, Buddhism, Lingayat all evolved from Parambrahman Shiva, the ONE & ONLY GOD
... it s a fight between Elite of two section s valid... but vested intrest political ppl dragging common ppl too....
Stop this nonsense. Open your eyes. Put your country first before religion. Everybody will benefit.
All Indian langauges are dependent on Devnagri font. The Sanskrit is mother of all all Indian Subcontinent languages. What u will achieve by declaring it religion. A political Position.
n this 21st century still fighting for cast and reservation from gov? This country never develop until these banned
Jai lingaytism
Lingayat is independent
And veershaiva is branch of hindu
No philosophical discussion about how they are different. Rather only Hindu bashing is done in the name of caste. How dare are you to call one billion Hindus of the world as castist? No Hindu scriptures nor any current Hindu sects support casteism. Caste was prevalant in medieaval era, and every Hindu saints did lot of reforms starting from Adi Shankara down to recent Swami Vivekananda.
It's required to break Hinduism which humiliate n treat it's foot soldiers as slaves. This is karma u get what u did. This had to happen n will continue to happen until the Hindus moral principals improve. Enjoy ur fate don't cry n blame on others for your own misdeeds.
Mr jamadar don't divide the caminity
Kalabeda...kolabeda..kusiyanudiyalubeda...
Lingayata are not hindu they not worship any hindu gods they worship they worship ishtalinga they don't believe in castism untouchability
Same way dhngara kurubra thet are not hindu they belong to halumata because they don't worship any hindu god they worship their own gods
In my opinion lingayat doesn't make sense.
Brother lingayats are in majority and they are against the vaidik rituals 😢 they are demanding their own dharma🥱 which is meaningless 😂 veershaivas is part of shaivism which is came into practice by 5 acharyas !! And they were gurus of many saints like adi Shankaracharya, agastya , durvasa and all🥲 but these people are trying to merge it with lingayats which doesn't make any sense !! Nowadays veershaivas are very minor and they are also considered as great vaidik Brahmins in Mahabharata you can read the conversation of Arjuna and Krishna he said that the people who worships god shiva or lingdharkas are the great devotee ss . But this so called lingayat concept which came into existence in 12th ad created by basvanna is totally change from Hindu rituals 😢 they don't follow any ved puranas like veershaivas , and don't practice the yaggya's . And they are saying that both are same😂 it is totally a propaganda 👀 you can read the siddhant shikamani written by renukacharya who founded veershaiva sect in Hinduism and taught to many great saints!!
@@vivekmathapati6486 Thanks for replying to my comment.