The Left Wing Podcast: Ian Foster & New Zealand smugness plus the World Cup semi-finals previewed
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The World Cup moves on without Ireland this weekend and on the latest episode of the Left Wing podcast, Rúaidhrí O'Connor dials in from Paris and joins Cian Tracey and Sinéad Kissane to go through this weekend's World Cup semi-finals.
Argentina play New Zealand on Friday night and England play South Africa on Saturday night at the Stade de France for a place in the World Cup final as the post-World Cup comeback continues for Ireland.
Don’t forget to join Will, Luke and Rúaidhrí on Tuesday’s show as they dissect the semis and look ahead to the 2023 Rugby World Cup final.
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Smugness!?... Ireland played that game in an arrogant way. Could have taken points on offer but chose to kick for the corner on at least two occasions. Ireland will have to learn that being no. 1 doesn't guarantee success... just like we (NZ) learnt the hard way in the late '90s/ early '00s. Good luck for the future....really enjoyed the Irish team of the last few years
It was arrogance, Sexton has missed a few key penalties over the years and they have had great success with points from lineout maul, so it's just a calculated risk, unfortunately their lineout was poor all tournament so generally didn't get the rewards, I do think there was poor game management in that area, either go short or kick points. They must have seen England against Argentina, drop goals and penalties and racked up the scoreboard. Mu h has been said about the last 10 mins, but I think the quick start settled NZ, if Ireland had started quick i think they would have gained confidence.
Yeah he was a bit but Fozzie earned it for all the crap we've given him
Man IF Fozzie can pull it off next week .. it will be the biggest ‘ F you ‘ to NZ rugby board and NZ public who trashed him
Ireland have been the most smug team in the whole tournament
@@Icanbacktrailers I would say that Ireland have been naive in their world cup tactics, playing their full team in every game was more of necessity as they didn't have the easy run to the quarters as the other 3 big teams and this led to fatigue in the knockout game. But any 'smugness' was promoted from the media, and the NZ media in particular were bigging up Ireland and using lots of clickbait titles to wind up kiwis and likely motivate their players, English and SA pundits were doing the same. NZ know how to win tournaments by managing all the external pressures, the media, the ref, getting players correctly motivated, Ireland went in thinking they could play their best rugby and that would be enough, but 'The Team' were not smug, I challenge you to find any derogatory comment from Farrell about another team, he showed them all the greatest of respect in victory a defeat, unlike Foster, who after scraping a win by hanging on to a 4 point lead, said Irelands attack is 'cut and paste' and easy to stop, that is 'smugness!
Comments about NZ and Reiko being smug…..😂
Ireland has been smug, especially Johnny ‘bigger than the game’ Sexton and his attitude towards other players and referees when he is on the losing side.
Can hear the worlds smallest 🎻 playing as JS walks away reminiscing about what could have been 😢
It’s Johnny ‘Mr Quater Final’ Sexton
This sort of smug arrogance is exactly what there talking you lot are the worst winners gloating and spitting insults around, we never did that after the series win we aren't a bunch of arrogant children..
Ffs , It’s a Rugby game people ! Not the ‘Smugby World cup’ where we see who’s more smug than who 🤦♂️
@@mungoblizzard6114 top tier comment!
@@mungoblizzard6114 then why are you lot getting all offended in the first place?😂
To all the Kiwis + Saffers in the comments I can only apologise for most of our Rugby media: the Independent, Virgin + Off The Ball all reek of bias, stingy credit to the opposition & lack of introspection. The State Broadcaster RTÉ and Irish Times / Examiner are much more fair minded… and please don’t take these to represent the fans you meet at the games & afterwards.
Virgin are outstanding. Helps that they have ex players
Appreciate your comment. We have commentators who we are embarrassed of as well.
Sadly this type of commentating breeds ugliness and contempt. But cheers for your interjection. All the best
Yeah, those off the ball guys, were off their heads 😂
The guy on the left is as bitter as Murphy’s and is double chipped by the sound of it! Shame really as an Irish supporter I think some of our players lacked a bit of dignity and most worryingly a lot of the journalists really got on their high horses and are now looking like pompous asses! We need more media panel representation from outside Dublin as they they are more level headed and respectful of other teams. Clear out the D4 mob!
This is Irish arrogance at its finest. This from the trash talking Irish and the team whose captain was banned for abusing the referee 😂 🤣
And see this guy twist it from what it was, Foster pointing out that Sexton probably shouldn’t throw stones in his glass house, to “kicking a man when he’s down”. That’s the kind of denial attitude people don’t learn from
This is why they will never make it past a quater final
Smug! What have you guys got against NZ. They were obviously very relieved to beat Ireland but never smug. This panel were so confident Ireland were going through to the Final. I felt the NZ players were very humble especially in an interview with Mounga and Savea. Foster has been very careful not to be to confident going into the game with Argentina, certainly not has smug has your panel was going into the game with NZ.
Ireland couldn’t beat a fired up NZ team who played with one player short for 20 minutes. It was a great game. Ireland didn’t take their chances on offer and fell agonisingly short. You lost. Get over it. Be gracious in defeat.
Absolutely, this bunch were nauseously arrogant before the game. Rich calling the ABs smug.
What sort of nonsense are you lot talking! They where confident because we are right up there with the ABs and have proven that, there was no arrogance or insults toward the ABs and to see this vitriolic pathetic reaction from your players and fans is embarrassing shows a serious lack of character
@@joemoody7440Bs! Irish fans were mocking the haka the week before the match, they were also counting the ABS out as contenders and thought they were going to march through them, which didn't happen because of arrogance, Sexton had multiple opportunities to score points and didn't. ABS are 3 time champions and aren't record holders for nothing
@@joemoody7440NZ have three world cups and made it past a quarters!!! Ireland are not even on the same stage as the All blacks 😂
@@SamzM429 again utter rubbish absolutely none of those things happened you people are living in your own delusional negative head space nothing to do with us, your own media and fans where talking you lot down! So don't start running your mouth now
Well earned smugness - Ireland thought they had a magic carpet ride to the final, kiwis know full well that world rankings mean nothing in knockout rugby. Remember when 'pundits' said that Italy may knock the ABs out? TBH not sure why listening to Irish pundits talk about semi-finals in world cups - just here for the salt i guess.
I would go as far to call some of the Irish fans and some of the Irish media poor sports - calling the ABs smug is a disgrace, the ABs have been humble since forever
No I disagree, during the Mitchell era was when we showed utter arrogance and self entitlement. Unfortunately, we didn't back it up and paid dearly for it.
@@silajeep1 2003, going a long way back there sport, plus it was in the semis, not the quarters. We finished 3rd. Not ideal but way further than Ireland has ever been,. And again, the players weren't arrogant. Maybe the fans.
New Zealand smugness??? Why because they beat Ireland 😅
Yeah that’s right buddy, didn’t you see those celebrations on the touch line afterwards. That win meant a shit load to your team and supporters. I’d guess it’s something to do with us winning in your back yard last year 👍
@@donalm9987in any game, winning teams celebrate and show elation after whistle blows…what planet do you live on where your team would be sad or not show emotion?
@@donalm9987beating you is another day at the office, but shutting your mouths oh was that satisfying 😂
@@HeeniKekeNZ almost show no emotion in winning most times, they are a winning machine that are very stoic. I've literally only ever seen them celebrate like that after winning WCs
@@donalm9987 NZ struggle to rebuild... next cycle will be harder. But they can still manage to get up for the big games.
Ian foster & NZ smugness… you serious? Literally had every Irishman & their dog on social media last week telling me how much they were going to ‘smash’ the All Blacks by. For a country who had never made it past a WC QTR the cockiness & arrogance had gone off the charts. World Cups are different gravy. We learnt many years ago now, you don’t peak as a team between WC’s. it’s all about building for those 3 consecutive weeks of knockout games. Ireland kept living off that test series last year… there’s 15 players that played in that series gone, two assistant coaches gone, Schmidt & Jase Ryan added. Ireland missed the evolution.
Seeming to revel in the fact that crowds might be smaller, makes one think how much you care about/ love the game.
Smugness? I find this reference hard to understand? The AB’s are a very humble team and celebrating that win isn’t being smug; even after the game. The AB’s have gone through a pretty tough journey leading into this tournament and they were written off by many media outlets particularly from the northern hemisphere. It was an awesome game and someone was going to lose. It just wasn’t the fairytale ending and that is sport.
You guys were insufferable before the game. Good to see some humbleness now.
What sort of shit talk is that? Where are you people getting this from? Being confident in a team thats been playing very well for 2 years and smashed everyone isn't really a crazy idea! And then the fact we gave every team utmost respect with everyone in the country very nervous about this game and scotland and south Africa.. you bitter pathetic children where just so salty about that test series win you can't help but throw insults at us, its utterly ridiculous
Enjoy the flight home, NZ chokers and their obnoxius appalling sneering fans like you Hamid.
Ruadhri is so bitter and biased it’s neon. Ponting the finger at others for smugness 🤣🤣
8:28 ... no, Argentina have not "won" their world cup yet...?. (condescending..., Arg have made semi finals in 07, 15, and ;23 - three more times than Ire )
its pure projection they talk as if ireland are on the same page as abs and boks at the RWC - talk about the epitome of smugness -ireland had already won that cup
The salt and the smugness from whoever this guy is, is absolutely hilarious. Show some humility in defeat champ.
Smugness? were they predicting they would be in the final before even playing a QF? Where they busy bragging abut an all SH SF? 🤣
Yep. Smugness is the word. Ioane cupping his hands at the crowd, Retallick calling O'Mahoney a 'fuckwit', Foster declining to compliment Sexton afterwards on his retirement, telling the press how easy it was to defend Irelands 'cut and paste' attack, also saying that NZ were in control of the match despite being the width of Jordi Barretts arm from going out. Criticism of the fans singing 'Fields' during the haka. A whole heap of smugness directed at Ireland. Guess that's what happens when you dare to challenge the mighty AB's.
@stephendoherty981 well clearly both Sexton and OMahoney are exactly that. Private school boys who thought they were entitled to the cup.
@@stephendoherty981 if there was any smugness it was created by the Irish themselves. Don't cry if you want to act like a big boy then don't cry and whine when you're dealt with as one. The booing of the Haka was extremely disrespectful. We all get that Ireland was in great form and had a good run building up to the tournament. But you all acted like you already won it. So maybe come back down to earth and learn from the whole experience.
@KO..... No disrespect to the Haka meant by singing our rugby anthem. Why would Irish fans know about Maori culture and how to behave for it. Singing back is pretty innocuous. And I don't get the entitled thing at all. Ireland were right to believe they could win it. No 1 for 16 months and on a 17 match winning streak. No point the no 1 team going into the world Cup thinking they were not going to win it , was there?
If you don't think you can win it ; why bother playing?
I think on another show one commentator mentioned that the scrum of 7 AB's against 8 Irish was the turning point, when Ireland never won that scrum it seemed indicative of a sense of collective loss and they felt that loss more than any other scrum. Look inside for the solution because if you continue to look elsewhere you'll continue to struggle just as the AB's did. As for Ioane & Sexton, they are both very competitive so that's where it stays, on the field.
I think South Africa were not too worried about losing to Ireland. The fans were very upset. Coaches were still experimenting with the bench and such. Post match Faf said the game was a fun game. Lol.
NZ were the same about losing to France. They would rather play the Irish than SA in a WC QF.
@@ajnz2420 It’s not the battle… it’s about World rugby WAR!
From NZ agree
Learn more from a loss and better head space. As shown by ireland
Opening game of the RWC? Okay you can believe that. Rassie was experimenting against Ireland knowing that if things go wrong the prize would be a DuPontless France… obviously thinking DuPont wouldn’t make it and that NZ’s skill set could probably disrupt Ireland in their boogey RWC quarterfinal match.
Jodie preventing a try being scored is one thing, who's to say the ab's wouldn't have scored shortly after if he hadn't stopped the try from being scored. The game had 10 more minutes to run. Long time in rugby. The way the game was trending once the ab's were restored to their full complement of 15 players and with the amount of X Factor players in their team, if Jordie didn't stop the try from being scored, it's highly likely the ab's would have scored again and won the game. But, we'll never now will we. Just like we'll never know that if Ireland went for post instead of the corners they might have won. It's all conjecture and what if's. Besides, the way Johnny Sad Sack was kicking he probably would have choked on those just like he did in 2013.
Ireland seem to be at their best against an ab's team when the ab's are a man down or 2, or the officials turn a blind eye to their indiscretions just my observations. Porter gave away the first two penalties and then a few more scrum penalties. A player giving away that amount of penalties would have been marched for 10 probably by another official. Lowe should have sat down as well.
The ab's are smug, really? Well, coming for you lot the ab's will probably take that as a compliment. I know I would. If Foster saw your podcast he'd probably give it a whole 2 seconds of thought and then carry on preparing the lads for the Argies. Something your guys aren't, they're doing preseason getting ready for the start of the URC. Your credibility like Woodward, Barnes, and many other UK journos, podcasters, ex players, public, and whoever else up that way, are shot to shit. And all of you are setting new standards of being the biggest sore losers the world has ever seen. Continuingly trying to find excuses for your teams failure to move beyond the quarters. Try accepting the fact that you can't always get what you want. You were beaten by a better team. You weren't good enough and life and the world is not fair. AB's supporters have seen this movie played out before. One minute you and your mates are playing rugby in front of millions of people. Sledging players for being a lesser version of their predecessor or not good enough to represent their country of origin, the following week you're playing club footy two weeks earlier than you expected.
Move on and try doing it with a little humility and grace, last week is all fisn'n'chip paper now.
You Guys disrespect the ABs you say Ireland played 20 percent less than what they where capable of . What would the ABs do to you if they played 20 percent better , we also played that game 20 mins with 14 men
Accusing NZ of smugness and within the first-minute talks about no one is going to turn up to the semi-finals cos IRE or FRA didn't qualify? The rest of the world carries on with the RWC perfectly fine without you guys....oh that's right you guys have never been past that point, so you've never watched semis anyway. Usually what happens in a semi is the countries that qualified, go and watch.
As a Kiwi I really feel Irish heartbreak. We have lost games we shouldn’t have. We have had a monkey on our backs. We have absolute respect for Irish Rugby. You will come back!!!
I love the Scots, Welsh and the Irish… not so much the English. I hope my boys dismantle them on Saturday.
You know it buddy. We have been in the same horrible place that Irish fans now find themselves. For NZ fans, it seemed inescapable prior to 2011. All I can say to the Irish is don't believe the haters, believe in the incredible rugby that your team produces. A style and level of rugby that has now achieved world class status and puts you at the top table. World Cups are peculiar and frustrating but if you build it, as Ireland has, then they will eventually come. Don't stop believing, as someone once said...
As a kiwi I think we have learnt to blame our team and coaches first before we blame the other team. Unless its a blatant
But the Irish should have lost that game, the best team won.
Lmao speak for yourself us young kiwis know the arrogance of a Irish team who have only been decent for like 14 months 😂
Still grieving, as expected, I see. It takes years to recover, guys. Take it from an ABs fan, pre RWC2011 win, choke phase.
And stop nitpicking about the All Blacks. It's just your bitterness, pain, leaking out. Finding something to criticise. I mean "smugness", if you want smugness, check out Irish media, pundits, fans, pre the quarterfinal match. You'd already emotionally crowned yourselves RWC champs. We Kiwis did, too, pre RWC1999, 2003, & 2007.
By the way, the losses to Argentina & Ireland were the reasons why Foster's coaches were sacked, & Foster barely survived. These losses were all pre the Jase Ryan, Joe Schmidt, appointments & are irrelevant to where this current team is.
Chins up.
For someone who detests the irish punditry so much, you certainly watch a lot of it.
@@stuarthanna-ih9lt someone has to challenge the bullshite.
Point of correction my good sir, as a fellow All Blacks fan. The Ireland series win is the only one that preceded the Jase Ryan and Joe Schmidt era. The two Argentina losses chronologically came before and after Jase Ryan and Joe Schmidt had been appointed. The Argentina loss in Christchurch came after the high of that ABs 35-23 win at Ellis Park, that would have marked the end of Ian Foster's tenure. So there was a loss to Argentina in late 2022, after Jase and Joe came on board. That game was probably also Richie Mo'unga's worst game. Both losses to the Argies, Mo'unga was the fly-half, curiously.
@kurtkachidza3613 i know. I was at the match. My point is they'd only been there for 5 minutes, barely time to put their feet under the table, let alone change a shitshow.
@@Sunflower-dt6ev Makes sense now and you're right!
As a South African, I want to say to our fans and the Abs fans, lay off the Irish pundits. This is the first time in their rugby life, Ireland have been in the situation they was. The two of our countries, have always been there. So cut the people some slack guys, they only being exited for their team.
What a shock, The Irisish whinging and making excuses as to why they lost. So typical. Worst of losers and just as bad in victory. So happy that they are out.
NZ deserve to be smug. They have won three world cups. Ireland were lucky to beat the SA in the pool stage. 12 points missed by kickers. Ireland were smug after that and it cost them big time.....
win’s a win, pools and knockouts alike. At least Ireland can take comfort in being the ones to fell SA in group this time round
They did a podcast last Saturday. I which apparently Ireland was in both New Zealand's Boks heads.
I remember the uproar especially from Matt Williams when the Boks chose their 7:1 split. Not sure Matt appear in this pod. However after that uproar to go and say the Irish were in both ABs and Boks heads was quite bizzare. What we can say for sure is right now Ireland is in no one's head.
except yours😂
@@karlosdeevs In the wrong head then, Quite lost in more than one way 😜😜
Smugness😂😂😂,these are the same people talking Ireland up for weeks about how they will bully and beat NZ. They are reslly sad
I worry for Ireland not taking their learnings from this WC but also past WCs, I see them in the same position as NZ when they couldn't win a world cup final until 2011, and they just won that. The All Blacks learnt their hard lessons the hard way, their nation demanded it of them, there was no pat on the back if they lost, weather that's good or bad it has shaped them. I feel like for Ireland to become thee great pinnicle like the All Blacks are, they need to learn how to win between the world cups as you have already shown, but how to win sudden death WC games, that is the last lesson Ireland needs to learn. I'm a kiwi but I love Ireland's style of rugby, kia kaha, come back in 4 years and prove the world wrong and advance.
Yeah but this without a Semi final appearance nor a World Cup to show for it😂😂😂
they are too proud and stubborn to learn
they don't deserve victory or honour
Ireland were winning btwn WC 17 wins on the trot only to fall at 1/4 finals,re group and go hard till RWC2027 ABs supporter hard
@@waynepirihi9769 so.. what does that mean for their future?
Ireland in World Cups is similar to Nicholas Cage in The Rock - they ‘try their best’ and the moan about the outcome - especially JSexton!
NZ and SA does what Sean Connery suggests - they always take the Prom Queen 🏆 Home and enjoy the spoils!!’
NZ smug? I think the Irish pundits and fans were very smug and over confident leading up to the game. They didn't give the AB's enough respect, and were blinded by their recent successes over the last couple of years. Ireland forgot that they were up against the most successful rugby International team in the history of the game! That's what you get for being over confident and disrespectful.
A ranking as no1 does not mean you get to the final, thinking that is smugness and maybe this is a good lesson and Irish rugby will learn from it....
This conversation is smug 😂 4 more yrs!
ABs smug? Yeah nah mate. I think you guys are still going through the grief cycle.
We know wat its like , time us a great healer..
Never tried Irish Wine, but it must be awful because Irish Grapes are so very very sour!
As a kiwi Foster did have a grin on his mug after that game and in the presser. I do think his satisfaction was directed more at his Nz critics and NZR than Ireland.
Agree Foster has done very well considering
So would I if I just beat the former world number 1
Yeah some of your fans go hard, viciously arrogant little cohort! Its a shame for the rest very decent..
Absolutely.
@@nzfreeskithey were the current no.1 leading up to the gsme
irish media were so arrogant during this competition .. u talked yourselves out to be favourites and looked past the all blacks , if you give you have to take it
What are they making such a big deal about what Reiko did. Sexton needs some anger management therapy.
or Rieko needs to get a cop on. Such antics have no place in the game, might aswell be saying he’s not worthy of a winner’s medal
Lol surely these guys arent a true reflection of the irish people damn their sensitive .I think alot of irish pundits havent got a clue about rugby they just got put in these positions because of their teams 4 years of success?
of course not, and secondly it‘s been
Saying “ABs smug in the aftermath”…Seriously these Irish comments are not helping themselves. It is just proving them as sore losers.
They taking cheap shots even at ABs moving bags. It’s pure jealousy!! ABs won the game…End of story…Move on and try show class
Ireland tries in the quarter final scored by New Zealanders and the third by the referee. Perhaps try using Irish born players in the next world cup.....
Ireland should be smug at their perfect record of never winning a QF 🖤😂
What is wrong with this lot? Smugness? That is sore losers talk
You never lose, you only learn. These muppets need stop discussing how unlucky Ireland were… all the ifs and buts doesn’t do any good. Look at the what can be learned
Everyone loses, everyone‘s time comes and you take it with you the hard way. Always
Smug! No one was more smug than the Irish, and they got caught with their pants down! Discard the All Blacks at your peril! Ireland was going to be beaten at some point, they couldn't go on forever unbeaten!
Oh the irony, the Irish calling NZ arrogant. Your press, Sexton, Mahoney all talked it up, it was as if you just had to walk out onto the pitch and walk over NZ. What happened, reality bites and you were not good enough, even with Barnes on your side. #Moveon
Everyone on this panel picked Ireland to win this game, understandably that's how good Ireland are but when you call the winners smug you lose a little credibility ... Ireland deserved the favourite tag but lost, that's knock out footy and we've been knocked out of w/cups plenty of times without calling the Victor's smug
Holy shit that fella on the left is bitter AF. He definitely already had Ireland winning this WC. Triggered by an AB social media clip of them moving a parked car - LOL.
I thought there was an arrogance with the Irish Team and supporters, the Hakka is something sacred and should be shown the respect it deserves. With the crowd shouting over the Hakka it probably just fired up the Kiwis even more and the cupped ear gesture is in my opinion justified.
I just wonder if " smug " have a different meaning and use in Ireland .Rank number 1 in the world doesn't afford you to slide in a shrimp sandwich to the world cup
The All Blacks are in the now not the past. Anyone can micro-dial into a game after it is finished and say if, but, how and why, would've, should've, could've, but that doesn't change what happened or change the outcome.
Shows how salty they all are when the Irish fans trying to sell their tickets..If i had a ticket i would still love to go to the final...even if the ABs were not in it..sad sportsmanship
they don’t ‘sell their tickets’ it’s automatically re-sent to any bidding fans of teams who are left. It‘s been like that for atleast the last 2 WCs
Smug?? No… the Irish have just flattered to deceive most of the World Cup, and were gifted a win by SA poor kicking earlier on in the pool stages. They always get found out when the pressure is on..
Sam Cane🔥Sexton bottled it and thats it dude!😎
Fozzy is the only coach in world rugby that can potentially win the world cup, and his employer has already said you don't have a job after this tournament, and we don't have faith in you. He has handled that with extreme grace. I don't sense any smugness from Fozzy - ever - in fact the rub on Fozzy is that he is not tough enough, or confident enough.
Poor Q final game management. Johnny did not kick those early points. And the penalty in second half. And a bit of arrogance
I've heard the Irish were so shell shocked they were beaten they were walking around like ummm zombies.
Seems like alot of projection going on with the comments on this show. I doubt very much there is any smugness in the All Blacks camp right now. Arrogance never won a world cup.
All blacks got 3 world cups..Ireland 0 ..get real
These pundits are on par with the breakdown (other than the exceptional Mils)
At least the breakdown guys are some of the best players of all time
these irish pundits are not ex-players so their smugness it not through experience just irish smugness
JK and Goldie need to get a room
I can't stand those 3 in the break down, especially mils and jk jk (who loves the sound of his own voice). Izzy dagg is way more articulate than all three combined. Just sayin...
Ireland got arrogant truth is Ireland were never good enough to make a semi final
I only just found this pod, really enjoyable discussion. Look forward to Tuesday's review and see how many more times the panel have watched that quarter final.😃
Yeah, nah. Pretty sure the reasons that the Ireland game has bled into conversations throughout the week is because journalists keep bringing it up. They certainly won't be mulling it over in camp.
Smugness???
Wish I had a Reiko pic right now doing the Hulk Hogan 😂😂😂
Smug lol Pot Kettle Black. #1 ranking means little, something Paddy should've realized - even a cursory look over history proves.
However, great to see another team challenge for the cup, loving the competitiveness at the top.
they are talking like ireland has been in the finals in the past being on the same level as the abs and the boks at the RWC - being number 1 in the rankings for a period is not the same as winning the cup - but to these pundits it is and not really even accepting that ireland is not number 1 any more - the epitome of smugness
There's such small margins in this weekends rugby, talking about Ireland not being able to get a foothold and places they didn't win, but when you look at it they're still just 1 score away from that victory in spite of it. Under-performances from Irish loosies(is that fatigue?) and overperformance from NZ loosies(going by form).
A lot was made of winning series in NZ(first team since 1994, 5th ever) last year. But at the same time when you look at it the ABs smashed Ireland 42-19 in the first game of that series(Ireland's last loss 17 games ago).
yh, atleast we finally went out fighting instead of going out with a whimper. The margin much closer, the development & experience hopefully too
Ireland vs NZ - a showdown between the most arrogant, obnoxious fan bases in the history of sport. Except the ABs have the trophies to back it up.
NZL had their horrible world cups over the years.... this was Ireland's last fuckup
When Irish eyes are smiling Irish mouths are whining. 4 more years until the next quarter knock out.
Paddy knew for 3 years the draw, didn't build depth enough said.
Smug!! WOW!! Ireland are not in the QF. Ireland had already won the WC prior to the ABs game
I never felt smug. Best Irish team in my lifetime. Enjoy watching them immensely. It was a 50/50 game. Well done on 17 in a row. Awesome achievement.
All blacks have 18 in a row and three world cups. That's a much better achievement 😂
The One Player that i am so happy for is Sam Cane. The abuse and demeaning comments he has been forced to put up with has been discouraging (especially the Peter Omahony comment). Feel sorry for the Irish. But so happy to see Sam Cane get to silence all the critics. So sad for the Irish and France fans. They must own most of the rugby tickets? 4 years to build up the fire again. There is so many lessons to learn from the All Blacks vs Ireland quarter final.
didn‘t age well after his red card tho😂 it was an almighty factor in another final choke
@@karlosdeevs we still love Sam Cane, the ABs wouldn't of been in the final if it wasn't for him. Kiwi fans are just so happy that the All Black's are back playing top of the class rugby. Even with only 14 men on the field, they still managed to get the only legal try of the match and really make the Boks sweat. The NZ fronts even squared off with the bomb squad. Sad for the retiring ABs, but the young talent across the team in the ABs means the kiwis are in for an exciting next 4-8 years at least(after a very chaotic Rollercoaster of the last couple of years) RWC I be looking to see how France, Ireland, England and Boks teams have maintained or improved. But the RWC 2023 has definitely told me that the All Black's are back, and got many younger players in training ready to step up. Considering some were saying this is the worst All Black team they have ever seen, I think they did pretty good. And 2027 will be here in no time.
@@auntyshakira747 ..only they‘re still a long way from top of the class. Plenty of rebuilding to do if they wanna vy for 2027
All Blacks and Foster Smug?
Sexton and POM shoot their mouths off all the time and the Irish media lap it up. Also Sexton was imploring the crowd right before the play that Jordie made defensively. Sexton came after Rieko as he obviously can dish it out but can’t take it. Foster sticks up for his player by pointing out that it’s part of the game that Sexton plays.
These pundits are just like Connor McGregor talking shite after being well beaten and lying on the mat
Poor Ireland Choked 😢 Got Smugged up By the ABs
Wow seriously, you guys calling NZ smug is pretty hypocritical considering how you behaved before the QF. Maybe you should think about showing your opposition some respect and not acting like you have beaten them before you have even played them.
The All Blacks are allowed to celebrate winning and be happy about it that’s not being smug. I understand you will be disappointed but behaving like sore losers doesn’t do you an favours . Even though many have written off Argentina in the semis, the All Blacks have shown nothing but respect to them as they do will all their opponents and do not buy into the narrative that they are supposed favourites. They know full well how things can turn out if you take your eye off the ball or underestimate your opponent. It’s a 50/50 chance of winning just as it was with Ireland and I hope the ABs can win 🙏
The humble pie clearly tastes a bit bitter. I hope these Irish fans and more specifically these Irish pundits have concentrated in this 2023 Version of Lessons in Humility.
smug?? sounds like your sour grapes mate
This podcast and these commentators are very defensive and accusatory as if Ireland is the centre of the rugby world. Ireland just isn’t, nobody is, every team is only as good as their last game. Irish players mouthing off to NZ brought the comments home to Johnny. I said it on this platform , there is no answer, no matter how good your systems and processes, to players who can beat others on the field NZ have a lot of those. Ireland were predictable and NZ read them like a book.
Ireland are like spoilt brats give me this give me that,sexton is the biggest baby in that team crying afterwards like his candy had been taken off him as if they were guaranteed a win,sexton should of smiled and been happy that they played amazing.
NZ have been through bigger Heartbreaks nothing like making the Semis and a final and losing, Lucky yous got kicked out early
You guya still doing the podcast? Still discussing Iteland the RWC Pool stages champions.
Nice attempt at gaslighting NZ
NZ smug? surely not 🤣🤣
The All Blacks has 100+ yrs of history of being the very best, the winningest team on the planet.
The Irish have had for 18 months won 7 games in a row and you think youve earned a place as the world best team berating it to the world as being #1?
If there ever was a poster child for EQUITY OF OUTCOME its the Irish.
*whingiest team on the planet
Smugness? mate we had to listen to everyone shit on us, END OF AN ERA.
But alas it wasn’t to be the Black Empire hangs on
no longer
I feel sorry for these pundits. This Irish team hoodwinked, bamboozled and flat out deceived them
By fooling them again as if they had not peaked too early again like they did in 2019
😂😂😂😂😂
As a Kiwi, i've gotten so many negative comments from Irish fans over the last couple years, Its hard to appreciate Irish rugby team for what it is. With very few exceptions, my brothers from South Africa know how to give and take a punt, without loosing the respect.
If there's one thing the AB's aren't it's smug. They are one of the most humble teams in the sport, even inspite being the most successful rugby team in history. What a weird comment.
Ha, you‘re all the proof needed here😂
I hope that game does not define or take anything away from the love and respect us NZers have for the Irish,sledging unfortunately is now prevalent in the game,but I am sure there was handshakes and beers shared and laughs between both mobs afterwards,the Irish are the Maori of the home nations,that's why we hold you guys close to our hearts,that game should have been the final imo....heads up lads,you did your country proud
well said
Great summary!
Ireland crashing out in the quarters is really no big deal! Happened before and will happen again. #AllBlackEverything👊🏼
Smug is not the right word. Relieved, yes. The All Blacks loss to France at the beginning of the RWC was the best thing to happen to them. You cannot lose 2 games in the Pool, so have played knock out for the past 4 games. The QF NZ v Ireland was the best quality game of rugby. Sadly the Pumas v All Blacks was a bit underwhelming. The Final will be a nail-biter for sure.
yup
Just trying to make yourselves relevant from talking big before the quarterfinal.
Feel the pain guys, take the learnings and hopefully it builds you up for the six nations.
As for now, take the L 😂
Was clickbaited by the title but no, the ABs aren't smug, they're happy, big difference. Things get said, the players seem to handle it, boys will be boys, it's a tough game, time to move on. The thing is it's a great rivalry, 4 wins each from the last eight games, Ireland that fantastic series win, the ABs two 1/4 final wins. As a Kiwi, like most of us, I've got huge respect for the Irish team, I don't give a damn about the lippy stuff, that was Foster's point really. Good luck Ireland for the 6N, I'm not being smug ... but I am happy and looking forward to the semi.
Good summary. I think some people in Ireland got a bit over excited about our team, overlooked the fact that a NZ side that preformed would be incredibly hard to beat. And hats off they played a great game when it mattered. Also maybe some on the NZ side prefer to see Ireland as the country they never lost to for over a hundred years and it’s now developing into a good rivalry where either team can have legitimate claims to win on any given day. Long may that rivalry last!
@@donalm9987 Exactly!
Johnny CHOKER completely choked when he missed that easy pen. Summed the whole Ireland mentality up. Absolutely rich to suggest the ABs were smug. Ireland need to avoid English arrogance. What happened to England in last WC final? Annihilation.
Sinéad knows the game. Very good contributor.
Sour grapes, it took them over 100 years to beat the ABs and now the ABs put them back in their place where they belong. Ireland were the ones who strutted around all smug still thinking all they had to do was turn up. They were beaten fair and square by 14 players for most of the game and Sam Cane stood up and shoved it right up them.
Smug? Buddy, take the blinkers off and look how the Irish team behaved these last 2yrs especially. Sour grapes on show here.