Major Change in Indian History l Why was Keezhadi excavation controversial?
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- In the latest development, the Sangam age has been pushed to 800 BCE based on the archaeological findings from the first two phases of excavation carried out by the Archaeological Survey of India in this sleepy hamlet along the Vaigai river, about 13 km from Madurai.
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தமிழ் TAMIL..proud of india..இந்தியாவின் பெருமை
முதலில் தமிழர்களுக்கு பெருமை... பிறகு இந்தியா...
Real History would go against many political agenda. Not only in India, it is true for whole world.
But not any ancient proof of islam in india. Islam means cruelty.
@@Aspirant_Railway How it would be? Islam is the latest version of religion. Don’t you update your software?
Islam is only 1400 years old. Paganism existed in our world almost from the beginning. Please update your knowledge too.
@@rajiburrahman8176 some updates are just crap. I think these new version has a lot of viruses which are affecting whole world. Like how the school girls in part of Iran were poisoned so that they can stop their schooling.
@@user-jq8fx6zp5m Its your choice. You can like it or dislike it. Nothing to force. Incidents in Iran has no relation with Quran. Many things in Islam now you know today has no connection with Quran. Many things grew over time among muslim community.
@@rajiburrahman8176 that's true. Many things today that ppl are doing has no relation but these ppl are still better than the faith. They are not completely following the faith otherwise they would have been killing kaafirs everywhere like they did where they are in majority. Marrying 5-6 year old in Afghanistan and 12-15 in Pakistan. Ppl give proper reference from sharia that it is not prohibited.
No matter what civilization in India is older...
Big thing is it's Indian civilization...
Kudos to that
try to know the real indian history but possessing only reel history here.
Hindi history 🤣
Tamil History
India never existed before 1947.This is the history of Tamil culture.
Seruppadi vilum. What is indian culture?
வீழ்வது நாமாயினும் வாழ்வது தமிழாகட்டும் 🙏 வாழ்க தமிழ் 🙌
thats why tamilians have reasons to be proud of their heritage
but they are overproud as hell
@@anitathakur9340
They can be overproud about it as they have something to overproud.
@@anitathakur9340 Says a B@### who keeps Caste in title 🤣
They should that doesn't mean They don't have any connection from ethos of India and its civilizations.
No reason to be overproud, Tamilian culture as on today doesn't have any connection with this old civilization.
Such sites are very common in Odisha but ASI doesn't give attention.
But this is wrong na !!!
They should
Budget is just 900 crores not enough
Asi is anti India
Asi's half budget goes in preserving islamic heritage only
Its because it a threat to Aryan superiority.. And the Aryan invasion theory will be practicaly proven , And Dravidian and Adivasi were the true indegenious people of India will be proven , Hence findings are subdued ... Everything is political, and businesses in term of history and scientific research...
काफ़ी ज्ञानवर्धक जानकारी है, तमिल काफी पुरानी भाषा है, संस्कृत को पुनर्जागृत करना चाहिए हमे ।
Hindi teerathe poondhar
@@bindisumi1650 Don't know what you said. Translate won't work on English script.
That's why I love history. Every time you think you know something new things will come up. I think India as a country needs to start developing its own labs with highly advanced equipment also we now need to introduce history in engineering subjects too. It's time we start using science and tech very seriously so that we can reduce the time and increase the findings.
The southern part always intrigued me not because of the small lessons we learned in our NCERT books but because of their connectivity to the different nations in their golden age. Also, the navy they had at that point of time tells a lot about their development. This country is way way older than what we think and we were developed in the whole parts of Bharata .
Yes. There is dire need for local labs and researchers solely dedicated to archeology.
We also at same time need to preserve our present culture and heritage. We hv many temples, monuments, language, fashion etc that r going extinct.
It will be valuable if we had more channels like Epic and Discovery.
Please keep History out of Stem courses. No need to destroy STEM subjects.
Which country is new? All the countries are way way older that what we think. We should concentrate on the system of country. The system of the countries should be strengthened for better life.
Yup. we need to search all our ancient books. I am sure there are jap techniques which we can use to ascertain historical information.
There’s this channel by Praveen Mohan. He’s found plenty of evidences of an advanced civilisation. You should watch him.
Thanks bro. You brought hidden civilization to all level in India. No matter which state the truth must establish and Indians must feel great ,we Indians has oldest civilization, language and influences from Egypt, Roman, Greek, Peru, China, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand, Japan and as as Europe.
Bring back, ancient history and remove English one sided history, which Indians are intrinsically lost the great empire in the world. Be proud. Keeladi excavation to cholapass in East India to Harappa and mohoindoro has the same civilization existed. Indians its our heritage, our strength of rich civilization.
Thanks 👍 such a great explanation.
It is very nice to know the real history, which is not fabricated. Wish to see more. Thank you
I THINK NEED MORE EXCAVATION LIKE A LOT OF EASTERN INDIA ODISHA HISTORY NORTH EAST NOT RECOVER
AT LEAST CENTRAL GOVT HELP AND PERMIT THEM....because many time these are negleted...corporate both govt so that history come and also in presence of expert and preservation and properly arrange...so state govt also take centre govt help...
State Archaeology department of Odisha should get more funds from Odisha govt and start working on new sites like TN Archaeology dept did.
@@umashankardas1608 odisha also had only tamil pot ,coins as of now the oldest are only tamil ..odisha history is very new and not that much like tamil which spreaded the whole world
@@sureshr5767 you need to gain more knowledge regarding Odisha history. Kalinga merchants were already sailing to SE Asia and even colonised some part of it. That's one of the reason why they call Indians as Keling in their local language (Malay and Javanese).
Just because there isn't enough research done to discover Odia history that doesn't mean that there's no history. Also get out of your shallow mindset, tamil history supreme over other.
Love you sir for continuing lecture again 🙏🙏🙏
நமது தமிழ்நாடு🐅🚩..நமது தமிழ்♥️..எங்கள் தமிழர்கள் பெருமை ❤உலகின் பழமையான மொழியான தமிழை வழங்கும் நாகரிகம் - கீழடி ஆதிச்சநல்லூர் ❤😊
Practically Tamil language will be much older than Sangam period. First people should understand what is sangam and why it is needed. Sangam in Tamil means high level meetings, conferences and debates etc. Carried out with kings, poets, creators, subject matter experts in all fields in Tamil language. And what was the necessity to do that? Because Tamil was already very old language and intention is to save the language from other new language influences that's the reason sangam was performed. So by common sense limiting the age of Tamil within Sangam age is completely wrong. Tamil should be dated back even before IVC. And even related with IVC. Some places mentioned in sangam poems never existed in Tamil Nadu but it is there in Pakistan and Afghanistan IVC sites. Sangam poem represent the life of Tamil people in that area.
No bro
In no Tamil old literature, the word Sangam is mentioned. In fact it is not a Tamil word. It is the conspiracy of Aryans to say that Tamil originated from dead Sanskrit.
Where it is written in any sanskrit text that tamil derived from sanskrit? Sanskrit and tamil both are unique and created differently from each other much much earlier than being told in history. It can be possible that any one of these is invented later of other by the same people. Because the south Indian hindu culture is itself a form of Aryan culture which is known for decency and nobleness.
@mohitR96 really, how cooly you made Tamil inside Sanskrit' umbrella...wow...
Don't give false news.
@@SaravanaKumar-pi1be Disappointing to see you people deny your aryan cultural roots just to reject sanskrit legacy. I said it may be possible that proto tamil speakers invented sanskrit for religious purpose or sanskrit speakers invented tamil then why you people take it as a sanskrit-hindi imposition on you. Do accept the fact that aryan form of culture exists more predominantly in south than north. Aryan word comes from word 'arya' in vedas which doesn't refer to human race rather it refers to nobleness of person.
Thats the real reason why I always disagreed with my friends on the discussion on history 😂
😂
Woow...
So thoughtful....
There should be disagreement. History works according to what we know today. I don't know why such disagreements.
@Shiva ya, that's what I say during heat debates with my friends
On what topic?
Our Tamil is the first civilization of India 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 Very soon it will be proved wid proud 💪💪💪
Kannadigara hesaru haal madbeda guru.
@@blenderharshameva if you don't know the facts it's better to limit urself inside karnataka bro, hope u understood
@@blenderharshameva half baked country broot 🙏🙏🙏
@@blenderharshameva Waste body's who doesn't know kannada language origin, bucket of aryans nimm pourusha bari Karnataka dalli matra, shame on you man, kaveri issue ondu itkondu namma culture/ language na maribeda kothi nan magane, uttarana pourusha oley munde ante
@@blenderharshameva ಹೊಟ್ಟೆ ಗೆ ಏನು ತಿಂತೀಯಾ If you don't know it's good to shut ur ass hole
Kindly go through in depth about ," Tholkappium "
This is the oldest Tamil book available which is dated between 300 BC to 200BC.
I am from Madurai and my school was just 500 metres away from the great Tamil Sangam, where annual literary conferences and competitions were held.
Modern days use technology to ascertain the age by carbon dating etc.
But my Tamil professor had his own method of determining the age of Tamil.
First we have to remember is "Tholkappiyam " is a Grammar book.
Also it is a revision. The book says as the old Grammar book of " Agattium " written by Agastiyar Sage is no more valid and the Grammar has to be revised.
Now we have to see how a language develops. Human initially convey by signs. Later with sounds...usually mono syllable.
Then di syllable, tri syllable. So first stage in development is Words.
Words followers sentences.
Remember each stage might take few centuries..
After sentences form prose...combinations of sentences to convey meaning.
As human start using extensive prose , will be bored and go for poetry.
When many poets start written poems in their own way, decide to write a code, or Grammar books which everyone must follow.
Grammar is the ultimate stage in the development of a language.
So if Tamil had a Grammar book 2300 years ago, just guess the age of Tamil.
Can anyone tell me the age of Hindi Grammar book and the name and Authour of the Hindi Grammar book?
Why are you comparing Tamil with Hindi?
You should compare it with sanskrit in that case.
@@soorajjp1847 Sanskrit is a derivative of Avestan , an old Persian language.
@@sucessmanpower3169 hello uncle Sanskrit is an Indian language
And not a European languages
Before Blah blah do a research
@@2005Navina really mate . Check for the origins of Sanskrit from Avestan and old Persian derivative ( old Iranic ).
@@2005Navina hello uncle,
The earliest form of Sanskrit is that used in the Rig Veda (called Old Indic or Rigvedic Sanskrit). Amazingly, Rigvedic Sanskrit was first recorded in inscriptions found not on the plains of India but in what is now northern Syria.
Between 1500 and 1350 BC, a dynasty called the Mitanni ruled over the upper Euphrates-Tigris basin, land that corresponds to what are now the countries of Syria, Iraq, and Turkey. The Mitannis spoke a language called Hurrian, unrelated to Sanskrit. However, each and every Mitanni king had a Sanskrit name and so did many of the local elites. Names include Purusa (meaning “man”), Tusratta (“having an attacking chariot”), Suvardata (“given by the heavens”), Indrota (“helped by Indra”) and Subandhu, a name that exists till today in India.
The Mitanni had a culture, which, like the Vedic people, highly revered chariot warfare. A Mitanni horse-training manual, the oldest such document in the world, uses a number of Sanskrit words: aika (one), tera (three), satta (seven) and asua (ashva, meaning “horse”). Moreover, the Mitanni military aristocracy was composed of chariot warriors called “maryanna”, from the Sanskrit word "marya", meaning “young man”.
The Mitanni worshipped the same gods as those in the Rig Veda (but also had their own local ones). They signed a treaty with a rival king in 1380 BC which names Indra, Varuna, Mitra and the Nasatyas (Ashvins) as divine witnesses for the Mitannis. While modern-day Hindus have mostly stopped the worship of these deities, these Mitanni gods were also the most important gods in the Rig Veda.
Hindutvas Sanskrit’s rich history??
Unfortunately, while their language, religion and culture is celebrated, the history of the Indo-European people who brought Sanskrit into the subcontinent is sought to be erased at the altar of cultural nationalism. Popular national myths in India urgently paint Sanskrit as completely indigenous to India. This is critical given how the dominant Hindutva ideology treats geographical indigenousness as a prerequisite for nationality. If Sanskrit, the liturgical language of Hinduism, has a history that predates its arrival in India, that really does pull the rug from out under the feet of Hindutva.
Both national myths, whether Arab or Sanskrit, attempt to imagine a pure, pristine origin culture uncontaminated by unsavoury influences. Unfortunately the real world is very often messier than myth. Pakistanis are not Arabs and, as the Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture rather bluntly puts it: “This theory [that Sanskrit and its ancestor Proto-Indo-European was indigenous to India], which resurrects some of the earliest speculations on the origins of the Indo-Europeans, has not a shred of supporting evidence, either linguistic or archeological”.
Bhai Keezhadi is near Madurai which is birth place for Pandya kingdom. Cholas were near Kaveri River basin, which is present day Thanjavur and Nagapattinam districts. Ponniyin Selvan came because. Ponni is the other name for River Kaveri. Please just update bro.
Medieval cholas were from Thanjavur n Nagapattinam.. but the ancient cholas were from trichy district and their first ever capital was Woraiyur which is in trichy
BHARATH History now being discovered by us and written by us...this is great...finally indegenious research and findings to satitate our own cravings ..this is how it should be and how it should be taught...not Aryan based, Western based or North/South India based.. 🙏
Recently they have found a old port & a light house 50km off the coast of Tn, it's said to be at least 15K years old based on rock layers. ASI must take steps to research those sites!
If excavation takes place in lemuria(kumari kandam) , poombukar , we can get many physical evidences for Sangam age...
Central government should consider this 😢
There's evidence been found about Poombukar..
Sangam age or sangam conferences is a pivotal point in Tamil history. There were 3 conferences, the first one was headed by Lord Shiva in Kumari Kandam, 2nd was headed by Lord Karthikeya in Kavatapuram and 3rd was headed by rishi Agasthya in Madurai. The first 2 places are now submerged in sea. I don't agree with the timelines, it is much older. The king of Madurai "Malayadhwaja Pandiya" had sent his forces to the Pandava side in Mahabharat.
Mahabharata is said to be of 800 bc. So its true that pandyas were sent and may be pandvas are the pandyas. Quite similar in names.
@@Shiva-zj6od Mahabharat was 5000 years ago. Many scholars have researched on it and said it happened in 3152 BC and not 800 BC.
@@VijayKumar-eh4rf First of all you are weong about scholars. Second thing is that I hope mahabharata is that old but for now its the archeological findings which says what I wrote. Atleast dont say anything in educational channel. Ask the govt you will know the answers.
@@Shiva-zj6od saraswati river dried up 5000 years ago. But it's mentioned as a big flowing river in Gita, Ramayana and other books so that proves Mahabharatam took place 5000 years ago. It was proved a long time ago but still people refuse to believe it.
If you look at satellite images you can see where the Saraswati river flowed.
@@Shiva-zj6od bro.. recently last year a documentary has been Released on " Sinauli" site ,you can watch it there..
Keeladi civilization is older than any other civilizations in South East Asia, Tholkappiyam literature is a proof of that. Moreover the education was available even to common man.
Amarnath Ramakrishan was the one who started excavation here. Within a year ASI transferred him to a different state and tried to close the site saying no more artifacts to be found here. TN state fought in court against it and tamil nadu state archeological dept took over further excavation. That is the reason we were able to find so much more and now a museum is built. We live in the same country but the union govt is reluctant to show the real history
It has nothing to do with the Union Government. It's the officials of the ASI who are biased people,remnants of the Congress era. Such people have been responsible for the cover-up of such findings across the country. Even their daating reports are fudged and do not reflect the actual period of antiquity. Now we see a definite change in the ASI department to really open up such sites and excavate. It needs huge funds for such works and budgetary allocations are being provided on case basis.
Thank You sir for giving at least something of a history lecture. 🙏
Vadakkans burning in comments 🤣🔥
Why?
😂😂😂pinna tamil , tamilargal na summa athurum la 💪💪
This is amazing discovery. It will great if north eastern states too r excavated.
It is Tamil history, with proof!
Pure knowledge no drama
Well Sangam Literature and History is saved from all destruction by the North India which bore for them geographically.
Everything in North india is distroyed by jihadis.
sir abb aise hee regular rehnaa plss current affairs bhi aap hrr roz pdha skte ho mtlb main topic which is releated to exam aur medieval bhi complete kra do
Politics must not interfere with historical research...
Sir please continue Medieval history
The harappan civilization or similar probably extended all over India - there is no reason not to - we had rivers, fertility and rains pretty much all over the country
Absolutely, how many natural disasters, human united disaster jabe always taken placem
Thanks a lot for coming out with this video about Tamil people's proud history.
Jai Hind
800 BC means later vedic period.
We should explore more about the dynasty.
Actual Vedic period starts 24000 bc ,are the history we study is from leftist Marxist view
@@vaibhavmishra8389 I fully support you.
Our History is written by Extreme Leftists.
@@vaibhavmishra8389 some claims that its the western capitalist view while some claim exactly like yours that its a marxist view.
So, what is it ? Capitalist or communist ? Or, are you just making stuffs out of your head ?
Oh here comes the vedic guy..dude you guys weren't even in the geographical area of india in northwest India for literally 45000 years. African migration happened 50k years ago then there was a migration from west Asia 7000 years ago where Indians mixed with these west Asian people. Then the vedic people came some 4000 years ago which is like 2000 bce thats not even that back in time. Search for sinthasta >andronovo>bmac cultures for your ancestors.
@@mogambo4565 here comes communist dog😂
Thanks for talking about this topic
I am indian tamil proud of our ancient bharathiya civilization.
Bharathiya mean Tamils, and not hindus
@@Eesanshiva those days there no Hindu concept you dumb
@@I_Am_Jo_007 that is what i said hindu is British invention 😀
Bharat not even exist at that period. Bharat created by cornering Tamil culture and religions.
@@Eesanshiva so u r occupied by mugals empire 😅😅
I am glad that someone touched on this topic.
The Lanka in Ramayan is not the current SriLanka.. It was way south of Kerala n is now submerged under the sea.
It's not kheeladi ....should be pronounced as keezhadi .... 💖
Wow, Good!
It does not matter which state we are from. Every Indian should know about our Indian history.
Mahipal sir on fire❤️❤️
Sir, please make a video regarding old tamil ports dating back to 15000 years. Bursting all myths of INdian history n migration theories
This is too soon too ealry. Even die hard Tamil supporters in Tamilnadu have rejected the claim.
Old Tamil ports and Aryan migration are two different things. Aryan migration happened only 4000 to 4500 years back.
@@seshadrir2057 that port hypothesis will debunk the aryan migration theory and will remove the "north south", "dravid aryan race" divide. So called left historians say today's north indians are aryan desendant and south indians are indus valley descendants. That port along with old keeladi will help us removing this divide.
@@ViswaMitrann don't blabber something without knowing anything about tamilnadu history..the oldest port was in tamilnadu .
I think this claim is ur fake jealous claim..it has proof man lol 😂😂😂...poombukar is the oldest port in India and it also said that it's oldest busy ports in this world...many Roman ,Greek coins are found in tamilnadu and tamil coins,ports are also found in Roman and Egypt too even in indus tamil letters are found so another claim is that tamil are the oldest people of indus ....
@suresh r Poombuhar is an old and ancient port. No doubt. The question is, is it 15000 yrs old?. No other civilization is known to have existed at that time. Who could have traded with them? Where would their ships sailed to?
I am equally proud of Pombuhar, may be more than you as pombuhar is in my district, but that doesn't mean we have to believe in hyperbole. Let the historical findings come out and the antiquity be established.
Excellent information. However, Dr. Mahipal Rathore should learn to say the Tamil words as Tamilian would say it, & not "hindi-ize" it. For ex, the word is Chola (चोला), not Chol (चोल्)...
One should take pride in correct pronunciation.
Adbhut , it is always interesting to know , how the world was ; sp. being Indian it is thrill to know how was ancient India was . Thx 4 this & upcoming videos .
Sangam I era is around 11000 BC, just before the last ice age melt
Brooo at that time not even cows were domesticated.
Woolly mammoths and woolly rhinoceros, sabertooth cats lived at that time. There were lions in Europe and cheetahs in North America at that time. So far back? What are you saying 11,000BC
@@bonemarrow3439 Yes, those beings are mentioned in ancient Indian texts. It's noteworthy that they talk about 4 tusked elephants and other type of humans. ("Vānara", "Kapi" etc)
I don't understand why out ASI pulled back after first 2 phases and also said no significant finding but there clearly was more to excavate. This situation is indeed fishy. The central goverment seems to be playing foul game with southern states.
I think the sangam period must be older than 800 bc...
Tamil was older than 350 BC.
Happy to see you are bringing more videos
Sir please be regular. Thank you 🌍
The later janapadas were at 600 BCE the earlier Janapadas in the northwest were established around 1700 - 1100 BCE.
There is a site between villages Biruwala Gudha, Sukhchain, suba kheda villages (in the agricultural area of Sukhchain village) of Sirsa , haryana.,. Many ancient things like Bangles are spotted here... No one is taking care of it.. people of the area are continuously destroying it..
Kindly guide me, how can I bring it to the notice of ASI .. REGARDS,
Jagdeep Singh
contact jaipur dialogues channel.
@@greenocean9039 most communal channel spewing hatred
May be police ko inform Karo shayd vo asi ko contact kare
direct ASI ko contact karo sir
My home town( madurai) is just 12 km away from keezhadi. This is on the way of rameswaram . I have seen the old construction.
Actually the excavation spot's name is 'pallisanthai '. 1 km from keezhadi.keezhadi is wrong . But the govt giving this name.
Sir kindly explain the "Aryan Invasion Theory" propagated by woke historians
It's already not accepted as theory among major researchers. Only non-historians make baseless claims around it.
If a 5000 year old skeletons from Indian subcontinent does not contain any steppe pastoralist gene in them .
That means Indo European language speaking steppe pastoralist or Aryan's did not existed during Indus valley civilization period .
Sanskrit did not originated from Indian subcontinent
@@-rate6326 the AIT and the AMT are 2 different things, the second one is accepted among historians though
@@shreyassharma890 AMT is also heavily disputed. Also it's mainly Leftist historian who propogate it.
Historians has dumped this crap in today era except communist historian
Any land parcel before developing should be approved by ASI for clearance. Otherwise lot many things will get lost forever.
So this means that the Harappan civilization existed throughout the Indian subcontinent. From Tamilnadu to Pakistan and all of are descendants of the great Harappan civilization. We must rewrite all the books being taught in the schools. We should make Harappan civilization as the starting point of our history. Many people are not aware of it but Shivalingam existed in Harappan civilization which is still being worshipped. Over time because of intermixing with foreign invaders, the genetic signature of North Indians became different from South Indians. This also explains the latest research papers in generics.
I dont know how you just brought harappan civilization. It looks you dont have idea of history.
First is that no harrapan things found so no connection.
Second is that harappan was of 1900 bc. This here we are talking of 800 bc.
@@the.god.of.both.worlds oh bro, u caught it. It just a proof how politics just manipulates the thinking of common people to such an extent. Well not a problem. But I didnt understood. What I said wrong about harappan civilization. Haraapan civilization was not of 800 bc. It was way older. Moreover u just think its english manipulated history but u all just wont give proof of your claims. Its evidence based history not the story based.
@Shiva bro, if u talking about indus valley.its dated 2300.u. Can go and read
@@the.god.of.both.worlds I just dont understand what ypu want to say here. Its completely different from how this discussion was started. If u r really on that field then you should jnow that articles are just for refference not as an evidence. There are no such archeological evidence or even such survey done by ASI to proove yiur claims. I am also into these things. I just don't prefer to bring politically motivated articles in such discussions. Rather I read govt reports of ASI on different surveys which includes evidences. I draw conclusions on such evidences rather than listening to others conclusions like your yt videos.
@@traveldiaries2912 U mean 2300BC. Yeah. It was at that time too.
Slowly slowly as the work in these field progresses, i m pretty sure we wd prove that whole world was once the great Vedic civilization.
Not vadic civilization, its dravidian civilization
I think you havent seen the video. Its preety much on the way that vedic religion is not the earliest one. It could be that tamil is older than sanskrit.
@@Shiva-zj6od Tamil ain't oldest language there is no Tamil before 300BCE
@@wavehixeno4915 I said it could be.
@@Fighter_Fitness_35 what is Dravidian civilization? Who they pray in Dravidian civilization???
To sum up it looks like South Indian civilization must be atleast 2000 BCE if not 5000 BCE..or older
No
Civilization developed a lot earlier than we thought.
10000bce
make it 100000BCE
they will still try and argue it's a 0 less
Little suprise 😲 Thank You Bhaya
Vedic Gods like Sivan (Shiva), Thirumal/Maayon (Vishnu), Kotravai (Durga), Murugan (Karthikeya) were also worshiped in Sangam period (mostly in the Later Sangam age) alongside with native Dravidian deities. Present day Hinduism in Tamil Nadu is an amalgamation of both Vedic and Dravidian cultures. Intermixing had been already happening since the Sangam age.
Shiva is not even mentioned in Rigveda and vedas do not mention about Idol worshipping or even prohibite the use of Imagery form of God
@@mscreationworks5787The word Shiva is mentioned as an adjective for Rudra. Rudra today used as another name for Shiva. Idolatry is not practised in early Vedic period. However during the late Vedic period, they adopted many Dravidian customs like Idolatry. As per Bhagavad Gita one has freedom to worship both Saguna Brahman (with idol) as well as Nirguna Brahman (without idol).
@@cskcmp5009 hahaha lord Shiva has no connection with Tamil Nadu , all the major temples and sites are in north India from Kailash parvat to Kashi . The only important site in Tamil Nadu is Rameshwaram and that too was created by Lord Ram .
Lord Murugan is Tamil god .
Don’t try to usurp every black think under the son as Tamil .
@@sanjayb5858 Shiva is not even mentioned in vedas .
A another god named Rudra is mentioned in the Rig Veda The Vedic texts do not mention bull or any animal as the transport vehicle (vahana) of Rudra . The God called Rudra in vedas is a another God it's not Shiva.
@@sanjayb5858 Shiva has pre-Vedic Tribal roots , and the figure of Shiva evolved as an amalgamation of various older non-Vedic , including the Rigvedic storm god Rudra who may also have non-Vedic origins , into a single major deity.
kya fayada books to update hoti nahi
Exactly.
It's sola. Like 17 that's how its pronounced in Tamil. And there's an aa at the end.
Chol vs chola.
Ram vs Rama
South we use extra a. It's similar to Sanskrit but in Hindi under Arabic influence you cut out the last a.
Not because of Arabic influence, it’s because awadhi , khadi boli , brajbhasha , Bhojpuri and all other dialects of north influence.
Hindi is the combination of them all and Urdu is Hindi with Farsi and Arabic words .
You don’t teach us how to say Lord Ram .
@@biggdaddyy
I was wrong. I meant Farsi not Arabic.
Hindi has Farsi influence.
Mughals had Farsi as the official language for a long time.
Hindi is not a direct successor from khadi boli.
Awadhi, bhojpuri and mythali have less influence.
Don't get emotional and do a bit of research. South India or dhakshin(Deccan) plateau is rough terrain which helped it isolate itself from the islamic invaders and Farsi language.
The easy way to enter is from odisha. That is why Telangana state has a bit of islamic heritage now.
Apart from that south India did not have Farsi influence.
That is also why Maharashtra is widely different from Hindi belt.
We were isolated and did not change much.
Learn Sanskrit and you will understand how it was pronounced. Languages change all the time and people change pronounciation.
It's written as Ra Ma. Not as Ra M
It's sad to say this but the Russian language is closer to Sanskrit than most Indian languages pronounciation today.
They still use Sanskrit words for uncle, aunt, and other relatives.
@@saladmancer8151 a south Indian will teach a North Indian how to pronounce lord Ram , Mahabharat, Ramayan hahaha.
Hindi doesn’t have Farsi influence, it’s Urdu who has it .
You see Bollywood hindi which is mixture of Hindi and Urdu .
Mughals came in 16th century and Hindi was created in 9th century and even before .
Mughals had Farsi as the official language but when the troops from all other places came to Delhi they used to converse in Hindi from there the Mughal officials noticed and picked it up then later added Farsi words to smoothen it up and termed it as Hindustani .
Urdu was formed in lucknow (UP) much later than Hindi in 17th century.
All the base of Urdu is Hindi that’s why people who speak different dialects in north India can easily understand Hindi but none can understand Farsi .
After independence more Farsi and Arabic words were added in Urdu to make it more distant from Hindi or say Hindustani .
We don’t question or do these things to your languages in south so better stay away from doing all these tactics and disrespecting our language.
If we start doing these things then you won’t like it .
@@biggdaddyy Do it.
My hindi friends from UP are the ones who told me this. They are mostly from UP and Rajasthan. They complain that hindi has lots of foreign influence.
Sri Rama isn't a North Indian god. He is our God. Rama has moved through south India and you can see many locations where these places are worshipped. It's written as Rama not Ram.
@@biggdaddyy
Check Wikipedia it explains it properly.
Lord Ram is the devanagari version.
In Sanskrit it's Rama.
If its Lord Ram why is it called RAMAYAN. call it Ramyan?
Why not use your brain to think instead of getting offended.
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It's not carbon dating anymore.. it's isotope dating.. soil has trace sources of nuclear isotopes.. they check the half lives of these trace isotopes and compare to the soil samples to see how much is left and that's used to determine the age of that dirt
Carbon dating is also isotope dating
@@arjavgarg5801 I know lol..
Will heavy rains and water logging damage and destroy the dug up site?
Sir , 800 BC time is still newer than INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION that flourished around 2400 BC.
There is also proto indus valley civilisation in Balochistan area which dates back 5000 BC. It was oldest phase of Indus Valley civilization.
@@thenikhilway
Exactly.
Many people don't know but the Indus valley civilization is divided into 3 major eras.
The earliest era dating back to the Neolithic age (New stone age).
But the proper golden age of Indus valley is said to achieve around 1300 B.C when it properly entered into the bronze age.
Ancient Sumerians were the first to develop metal smelting and entered the Bronze age. Indus valley as a direct trade subsidiary followed after it.
@@ajaykumarsingh702 I don't believe in Aryan Dravidian Theory. If we talk about Migration even South Indians are not native. Everyone migrated from Africa. If we talk about who was first Indian then I can say they are Andaman and Nicobar tribes. They are Living here since 65,000 BC.
@@thenikhilway
Exactly.
Nobody just poped into existence out of the thin air.
There was always migration, even in the pre-historic era.
But it is a fact that certain groups remained in their local area long enough to develop distinctive racial features.
There is a reason an African, Chinese and European person looks apart.
You cannot deny the biological difference that is visible to everyone.
So a Dravidian is still more native to any other migratory group because they developed local racial features according to their environment.
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According to Tamil legends, Arjuna marries the queen of Pāndya Kingdom.
According to Tamil legends of the Sangam era, Alli Arasani was the only child of the Pāndya king. She learnt Yuddhavidyā in a Gurukula. Once Neenmughan (Nilamukha) usurped Pāndyan Kingdom but Alli Arasani led the Pāndyan army and killed Neenmughan. Thus, she succeeded her father and became the queen of Then Madurai (ancient Madurai that was submerged by the sea). She reigned over the Pāndya Kingdom, extended up to Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka was well connected through land route and Tāmraparṇi River of the Pāndya Kingdom used to flow into Sri Lanka before 7000 BCE. Arjuna came to Madurai following the Aśvamedha horse. He
wanted to marry Alli Arasani but she sent the Nāgas to kill him. Arjuna somehow entered the palace of Alli Arasani in the guise of a Nāga and slept with her. He also tied Tāli on her. Finally, Arjuna succeeded in marrying Alli Arasani. Alli Arasani was also considered to be an incarnation of Mīnākśī.
Interestingly, ancient Tamil Sangam sources refer to the date of Rishi Agastya and the first Sangam around 11226 BCE, which perfectly reconciles with the archaeo-astronomical dating of Vedic and post-Vedic literature.
If a 5000 year old skeletons from Indian subcontinent does not contain any steppe pastoralist gene in them .
That means Indo European language speaking steppe pastoralist or Aryan's did not existed during Indus valley civilization period .
Sanskrit did not originated from Indian subcontinent
@@mscreationworks5787 understand the linguistic evidence of the evolution of Sanskrit before analysing anything. Panini clearly indicates the three distinct stages of the evolution of Sanskrit i.e. Chandas (up to 10000 BCE), Samhita (10000-7000 BCE) and Bhāshā (7000 BCE onwards). The Sanskrit of Chandas was the Vedic language of Rigveda, Yajurveda, Samaveda and Atharvaveda. During the period of Chandas Sanskrit, the grammar was limited to the rules of Sandhi and context free grammar only. The language of some suktas of Atharvaveda belonged to the transition period (11000-9000 BCE) of Chandas Sanskrit and Samhita Sanskrit. All Brahmanas and Upanishads have been written in Samhitā Sanskrit around 10000-7500 BCE. During the period from 10000 BCE to 8000 BCE, Sanskrit grammar has been evolved to an advanced stage. Consequently, Bhāshā Sanskrit came into
existence around 7500 BCE. All texts written in Sutra style or Laukika Anushtup meter had been composed after 7500 BCE
The origins of Chola kings of Tamil lands mentioned in the copper plates unearthed in a place called Thiruvalangadu about 100 years ago gives common ancestry to Cholas with Ikshvahus until the time Mandhaata.
After Mandhaata there was a division. In the Ikshvaku dynasty, only the eldest son ascended the throne.
The other children of the king had ruled other parts or had founded their own dynasties. King Sibi had come in the lineage of siblings.
In Sibi’s lineage, king Cholavarman came who founded the Chola kingdom. This information is found in the copper plates.
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 Sanskrit is a Indo European language
@@mscreationworks5787 originated in Bhāratvarsh itself
*Indian civilization* 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Resume medieval history lectures plz 🙏🙏
Now, don't make it a regional war as a North indian this sangam civilization belongs to all indian.from north to south from east to weast
Sangam literature is a Tamil civilization
India was created by British people
@@mscreationworks5787 Tamil created by South Iranian Elam people.
India was created by Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel and the commonfolk of India, INCLUDING the people of Tamil Nadu who were the first to join India.
@@rishabhrox1 Sardar vallabhbhai Patel did not create India
British conquered Indian subcontinent by Defeating Smaller and larger kingdoms and unified them under British Raj
The true history of Humanity is with Guru Sivayogi Sivakumar.
Ye kon h
@@Vandematram000 check out youtube channel Sivayogi
Great lecture sir👍⭐
I still think History is dynamic subject not Rigid. There's whole lot of possibility of the change of history.
On top of that our history was written by a molvi who was the first education minister and British. Thry wouldn't agree with indian history being much older as that would mean Christianity and islam automatically failing as their Adam lived only 6000 years back.
@@digitalbath6057 well said
आप को एक सुधार की सलाह...... वह क्या है कि..... हिंग्लिस.....से दक्षिण के नाम के उच्चारण में तृटि हो जाती है......"की ळ डी" है सही उच्चारण....... उस का सही लाभ उठाएँ......विचार के लिए.... साधुवाद।
Keel-adi not kilaadi 🤧
Sir please continue lecture on youTube
North Indians can only create controversy on History... nothing more they can do 😂
Who is Chol.
These are the people who say Kannad😓
Don't worry these people Northies don't know anything lol 😂😂just waste of india 😂😂
The word Sangam itself is a sanskrit word...
Sanskrit itself sanskritized from Prakit
How many of you know Zend Avastha?
@@yumi-e2o sanatunni spotted
@@yumi-e2o A Hindu using Hindu name. A landbhakt gobar thinking himself as Hindu 😂😂
Have some gobar gomutra gobarbhakt.😂
@Cris Ronaldo no I know it as it it has been transmitting verbally since more than 1000 years 😂😂
Sir, please make a video Qatar corruption scandal at the European Parliament.
Adichanallur is another excavation site that is of archaeologically importance. It was said to be 20,000 years of human habitation and burial grounds found there. But even after 13 years of completion of excavation, no documents/proofs or at least information are released yet...
HLO SIR
Sir APNE medival history COMPLETE nahi karwayi youtube par
WO COMPLETE KAB HOGi
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Nehi hogi... They will not complete the subject in time... They are real crony capitalists...
इसी से पता चला था संस्कृत से ज्यादा old language तेलेगु है। Edit tamil or mai hindi state mp se hu . Sanskrit ho ya tamil both are our language
Bhai telugu nahi tamil
Aagya Tamil 🤣
Indian rho jayada achha rhega
Present me koyi enemy attack krega to - na Sanskrit - Tamil - hindi = kisi ko bachayegi
Rigveda 1500 BC hai
YES LATEST ME TELGHU OLDEST nikla hai
@@prashantbb637 bro history me updation hota rahta h l know snk n tamil r older
Sir start ancient history medieval history series 🙏🙏🙏🙏.
We need to use Vikram Samvat system of Calendar for this findings for eg. 857 V.S.(Vikram Samvat) instead of 800 BCE (before christ era) who knows what lies in Gregorian Calendar.
Good point
Tamil is Father of world languages which is more than 50000 years old language and civilization.
We struggle a lot to bring out this small keeladi archeological information AS we are not in power or not ruling India or even Tamilnadu.
Not father ... Tamil is mother❤
@@sureshr5767 ie the uniqueness of Tamil.
Yenna ya solura.
50,000 years ago literally mammoths were alive. People only had simple bows, stone spears and bone flutes. There wasn't even wooden carving. Different species of human, homo Neanderthalensis not homo sapiens were alive. Yes there were Homo sapiens in India as evidenced by human bones in srilanka. Because there was land bridge between india and sri Lanka due to lower sea level because all water was stored as ice in the poles. There is no proof that we tamilians are direct descendants of those people.
@@bonemarrow3439 sari ne oru language la grammar kanndupudichu, literature yeluthu???
3000 years back Sangam vachu literature release panirukanga....
Ungalukku onum illana Tamilargal yena seiya mudiyum.
@@gpremkumar2015 3000 years literature irukunu proof illaye
Ports Make Sence because the latest wave of Tamil people other East Indians Came from and East Asia. We need to look much other sites in India. We need to Invest Much more in Archeology and increase our Standards as per International Standards.
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Are urbanisation bhot pehele hi Hui thi sabhi archeological evidences jo hai wo mugals ke dwara aur Britishers ke dwara mitha diye thi abhi Jo bacha kucha hai wo wo bata ta hoga 800 bce ye wo, gujrat coast mai 35000 years old sunken city mili hai kuch soch ke bola Karo
Please understand , ......
It is not "" Keeladi "".......
It is "" KEEZHADI "" .......
To be pronounced as கீழடி .
Thank you very much for this Video . JAI HIND ....
Brother poombukar 15000 years old cholas kingdom. Indian government not interest to research, Indian government saying sankrit oldest language in world so they afraid to research Tamil history.
@@yeswanthkumar9453 pagal ha ice age ti jb kya bol rha ha 😂
End of the day truth will arrive
Why we are still dependent on us on carbon dating 😥
So what u want ??
indigenous facility in india too ,which will make it cost effective and self dependent.
@@anandraj735 can any other methods are there to find age of artefacts?
@@chethusetty_chethu yes there exists many methods other than just carbon dating to know the antiquity of ancient civilizations
@@descendantofbharatbharatva7155 ohh thank you bro information!! Which are such indigenous methods we follow instead of carbon dating??
history always drags you to long extent where reality doesn't exist....
Ok South Indian civilization was old than north Indian but i am very sure they were neither Christian nor Muslim 😂😂😂😂
No its still north indian civilization older. But this prooves that south civillization was not vedic ones.
@@Shiva-zj6odVedic Gods like Sivan (Shiva), Thirumal/Maayon (Vishnu), Kotravai (Durga), Murugan (Karthikeya) were also worshiped in Late Sangam period alongside with native Dravidian deities. Present day Hinduism in Tamil Nadu is an amalgamation of both Vedic and Dravidian cultures. Intermixing had been already happening since the Sangam age.
@@sanjayb5858 yeah as u said intermixing happened in later sangam age that means they are different. North civilization was vedic culture different from sangam ones. Thats what I said.
@@Shiva-zj6od Yeah they were different but now their distinction has been blurred and completely intermixed. The word Hindu do not just refer to Vedic but also Dravidian culture.
Edit: It is said that almost the entire Sangam literature that still survives today came from Late Sangam period (third Sangam). Therefore we do not exactly know about the religious practise of people during first two Sangams.
@@sanjayb5858 Actually this is quite a complicated scenerio. I mean, I kind of agree with you. We all know hindu is everything present in indian subcontinent. So yes, Its quite true.
The study of Ramanathapuram city near Rameshwaram where the confluence point of river Vaigai, empties at Ocean bay of Bengal, was ruled by Raja Sethupathy Maharja, would have been a place of Trade importance, which can give us important insight results . Officials told that there were excavation reports citing Elephant tusks bones etc in large numbers, possibly some war sites. Don't know those information will fit in to the current research. Thank you.
Its great just more syllabus to read..but if allegations are true i think that actions were childish because i don't think any normal person cares that which is older & which is not. It takes lot of time and patience.. please don't ruin someone's hardwork.. already on surface ASI looks most corrupt and lazy department.😁 Good work by tamilnadu gov that they keep digging.
First Sangam Started 20,000 yrs ago
Sir इससे ये साबित भी तो होता है की aryan invasion theory गलत है| अगर दोनों सभ्यता साथ मे है तो
HOW , WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HARAPPAN , AND HOW ARYAN STARTED LIVING IN HARAPPAN PLACES
Kuch bhi. Yahan 800 bc ki baat ho rahi hai. Aryan invasion theory usse pehle ki baat karti hai.
@@hemangasarma8056 1.according to aryan invasion theory when aryans attacks to their sites they have to settled into South but if time line is parallel then why they are living in South already
2.sinauli sites where weapons and warriors are found its timeline also parallel to indus valley timeline
@@himanshugautam8831 but in recent IIT kharagpur report. People of IVC sifted to gangetic plains due to climate change not due to any invasion. So that sumps up that aryan invasion theory is mere a theory but nothing else
@@Shiva-zj6od kitne pehle ki baat hai ?
Thank you sir 😀.