Why Tunisians Are Back On the Streets Again, 10 Years After the Arab Spring | A Decade of Spring
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2021
- Tunisia’s Arab Spring starts with one man in Sidi Bouzid, 190 miles south of the capital Tunis. Mohamed Bouazizi’s suicide, the subsequent protests, Ben Ali’s resignation all had dramatic ramifications both at home and across the region.
10 years on, protestors are on the streets once more - repeating many of the same demands. So was it all worth it?
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I’m getting old. The Arab Spring feels like yesterday.
I was a sophomore in college when it happened. I remember the excitement discussing the impact of social media on political activism in my political science classes.
@@skyusable I was about the same age. In my senior year of high school. I remember watching the news seeing crazy journalists giving interviews in what looked like a mosh pit in Cairo everyday.
If feel as if it happened 20 years ago.
@@skyusable
In which country was that?
I was 11 when Tunisia started the revolution lol
Ngl locals were exited about it and stressed at the same time back then
We expected a peaceful transition in the government and that what exactly happened,unlike what happened in other countries peace was there but another form of corruption popped out
I was in my senior year in college living in Japan. Months after the arab spring little did I know a tsunami would hit Japan and change the course of my life at that time.
Hello Tunisia
Hope things go well and peacefully
Greetings from Jakarta
Thanks ❤️
Thanks!!!
Hope nothing but the best for the Tunisian people love from Chicago 🙏
❤️🇹🇳
ty
Fighting Tunisha!we also support u from myanmar where we r still fighting for democracy
May God bless you and keep fighting for it you will definitely get freedom from evil coup
You guys have been going at it for longtime. Keep fighting!
Democracy is a failed experiment by the west in Arab world, Arab world was at peace under Dictators like Saddam husaain and Gaddafi. It is bad to hear truth brother, these people will be at peace only under stubborn and cruel dictators. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan are peaceful just because of being under Dictators. Only the immature and those who don't understand Islam speak about democracy in Arab world. sorry to say facts. Facts don't care about feelings.
Love from Syria. Tunisia is the first democratic Arab country that's on a brighter path despite the difficulties. Hoping we will follow suit!
Thank you,praying that things get better in Syria 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Nothing will get better untill the middle east accepts human rights freedom and democracy.
@@shavingryansprivates4332 I agree
@Kiki Kiki I mean Arabic-speaking
@Kiki Kiki Abstract Tunisia is ARAB
We have analyzed Y-chromosome diversity in the western Mediterranean area, examining p49a, f Taql haplotype V and subhaplotypes Vb (Berber) and Va (Arab). A total of 2,196 unrelated DNA samples, belonging to 22 populations from North Africa and the southern Mediterranean coast of occidental Europe, have been typed. Subhaplotype Vb, predominant in a Berber population of Morocco (63.5%), was also found at high frequencies in southern Portugal (35.9%) and Andalusia (25.4%). The Arab subhaplotype Va, predominant in Algeria (53.9%) and Tunisia (50.6%), was also found at a relatively high frequency in Sicily (23.1%) and Naples (16.4%); its highest frequency in Iberia was in northern Portugal (22.8%) and Andalusia (15.5%). In Iberia there is a gradient of decreasing frequencies in latitude for both subhaplotypes Va and Vb, related to eight centuries of Muslim domination (8th to 15th centuries) in southern Iberia.
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Street vendor: *Sets himself on fire*
Middle East governments: Aight ima head out
Syria: Guess I'll collapse
if you're talking about Tunisia, it's definitely not on the middle east
@@loss8717 it is in the Greater Middle East, however.
@@francismendy1398 yeah between cina and the moon
@@francismendy1398 lmao no tf
Tunisia is on vice the second time in this month Noice
for the wrong reasons
@@IllusiveDude yeah so not nice at all
They push this agenda
@@beyrutphl stfu.
@@IllusiveDude i thought that for a while but i hope not
Greetings from North Africa, Algeria, you are a good people
ALL people are good people!
Greetings good man! Stay well and happy! From Washington, USA 👋
Much love north Africa! From Aromas California. Stay blessed.
I really hope that things will sort themselves out
يا اخي ذكرتني بمقولة ويجز:
"شمال افارقة الحركة بركة"
This spoke so much to me as an Indian. I am teary eyed .. silly...but it's real.
❤️
@drc ula india is going through a period that I fear could land us where Tunisia was... But I am also aware for every dark period there will be a time when things will be better... But how a nations gets itself to that point depends on the awareness and the persisitance of the general public or else mistakes will be repeated and that dark period runs long...which makes Tunisia a better example of that slow climb up the hill to the possibility of better times. It was inspiring to hear the voices of a place in transition. Does that answer your question?
@@NeetReel Let's just not import ideas and issues from foreign countries to your country. The world is different. Every country is different. Politics is different and people are different. Issues are different.
Every country's approach to deal with its issues is different. Be sensitive to your local realities and challenges rather than emulating something unrelated and totally foreign.
@@OkarinHououinKyouma I do dear. It may appear that way to you as either you prescribe to boxing people in or you just don't see how democracy is being dismantled. Each to his own
@@OkarinHououinKyouma there...I will agree with you ....I do feel hopeless about us as a nation. And yes I feel like democracy is sand running out from under our feet.
So proud of our Tunisian brothers and sisters. Keep fighting one day we will be free. Revolutionist from Syria 🤞🏻
@blob blob syrian revolution would have worked if it weren't for exterior interference . If russia , israel and iran minded their business , syria would have been ok now
@@latifaahmd9408 Israel minded it's own business. We never interfered in your civil war despite the fact that technically we're at war Syria.
@@latifaahmd9408 there's always gonna be exterior interference, not only Syria look what happened to Libya.
@@Elivinu I'm not syrian but stop denying ur country's role in the region's chaos
@@nourchenegassam3909 the only country that didn't have an exterior interference during arab spring is tunisia . And now its the only country with a successful revolution and democracy ... thank god we don't have oil or hateful neighbors
One day : Freedom for Every One
Unfortunately, it’s impossible with this human population. Maybe a million years from now will be much different, but it’s impossible for the near future.
@@ozdemirsalik nihilism is hella cringe and lame dude
@@yeahokbuddy2510 I might be a real nihilist, I can’t know for sure. But what I said is true. Just visit my country(Turkey) and you’ll understand what I’m talking about.
freedom isnt free
@P4to D0l4n our "politicians" (Spain) are also psychopaths, while thousands are dying from the pandemic, they're literally more interested in attacking each other in public and dividing society, while they agree with each other to raise their salaries in private
@vice news This is why i love you. Telling us about some real world sh**. I pray for the Tunisian people. God bless.
@@hichembekri1079 be safe brother and much love from California. This is why i do psychedelics like mushrooms and LSD to open up my heart and mind and tune into what's really going on. You cant always believe what you hear from others but psychedelics will show you God in real time and i am starting to believe they are the missing piece of religion. Spirituality will have you feeling gods presence but LSD will show you God with your own eyes and make you happy to be alive.
@@hichembekri1079 it definitely gives you what ram dass's guru calls darshan of Christ. In my own words id say it puts you in Christ consciousness and yes you do love everyone. I dont see anything wrong with that. The world needs love now more than ever.
@@hichembekri1079 how do you know what im feeling is real or not real? I don't try to dictate whats real to you or tell you what is real or not real. That is up to you to decide. I am native American brother and my beliefs are my own. Just like yours are your own. In most native American belief systems there are no words for "hallucination". All the things we experience on plant medicine and entheogens are integrated as part of the spiritual experience. I'm sorry you can't except what i have to say but i promise i won't crucify you for your beliefs. We are all family under God. Not everyone can see it but God bless those enlightened souls who do. God bless you too brother. May love win the war for you as it has for me. ✌&❤
@@ryanlove8242 wow man !!! I think u made me think for a moment !! Keep doing your sh*t
Peace brother 🙏
Oh boy this is gonna turn out well.
She looks like she has DS...
If you know what I mean.
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Tunisia will be better inchallah❤
Inschallah☝️
We, the Myanmar people, are really inspired by Tunisians. "Go ahead...Don't give up..."
Don't give up on your freedom brother if the army ever succeeds to take power it is not easy to take it back.
Aren’t y’all same people who genocided The Rohingya
I graduated in 2010 and left the UK in 2012 just after the Arab Spring to work in Qatar. I've been in the Middle East for 10 years have worked in Qatar, Saudi, and Oman. Inevitably you work with and come across people from the Gulf, the Levant, and North African Arab countries every single day. Before I came out here I had a very one dimensional view on the Arab world. When you live and work here you realise very quickly there is no homogenous Arab world. Other than a common language which isn't even that common given how different the various dialects are, the only thing that I see every Arabic community has in common is a level of love, respect, and hospitality you simply don't see in western countries. The KG Arabic teacher from Egypt with whom I worked with in a school in Qatar would make me breakfast every morning because I was the only young male working in the school. We both knew our salaries were not equal but she didn't care. There's a selflessness and genuine sense of family I've seen from everyone in the Arab world which simply doesn't correlate with the macrosocial problems you see on state levels. It's so sad how the entire region is seen as nothing more than political and religious violence when the reality of the people is as polar opposite as you could imagine. I really hope the people in the Arab world get the leaders they deserve, and not the tyrannical despots who take advantage of power vacuums left over by meddling western imperialists.
Why wasn't Libya included in that Arab spring map intro?
Because the new west will not say anything that will tarnish their narrative. "arab spring good" "rebels good" "al nusra good" "these guys bad" (these guys been governments that do not follow America's commands.
cough cough.. umm.. *youtube commercial plays*
"HAVE YOU HEAARRDDD OF THIS REVOLUTIONARY WAY MAKE MONEY???
@@kokojambo4944 Man, you were brave enough to tell the truth.The US uses social media opinion to incite ignorant young people to overthrow their own government.Then install American puppets and transfer the country's property.
@@jurkcommand5971 haha this is the truth you think? please come and live in the middle east and see their dictators then tell me who are the puppets
@@baselnat93 Abstract no rla mazigh
We have analyzed Y-chromosome diversity in the western Mediterranean area, examining p49a, f Taql haplotype V and subhaplotypes Vb (Berber) and Va (Arab). A total of 2,196 unrelated DNA samples, belonging to 22 populations from North Africa and the southern Mediterranean coast of occidental Europe, have been typed. Subhaplotype Vb, predominant in a Berber population of Morocco (63.5%), was also found at high frequencies in southern Portugal (35.9%) and Andalusia (25.4%). The Arab subhaplotype Va, predominant in Algeria (53.9%) and Tunisia (50.6%), was also found at a relatively high frequency in Sicily (23.1%) and Naples (16.4%); its highest frequency in Iberia was in northern Portugal (22.8%) and Andalusia (15.5%). In Iberia there is a gradient of decreasing frequencies in latitude for both subhaplotypes Va and Vb, related to eight centuries of Muslim domination (8th to 15th centuries) in southern Iberia.
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Big support to Tunisians and hopes for the success of their upcoming second revolution that will hopefully resolve the overlasting problems of this country
11:01 I didn't know that Vice interviewed Mohammed Salah too!!😲😲
Revolution does not fix issues reforms do. But reforms require everyone to personally sacrifice and change the way they see things and people but people prefer to sacrifice someone else hoping that will bring some change like its pleasing some gods or something.
The result will be the same. The people will get crushed by Oligarchs
Pessimistic people, always fun to engage with them
@@marwanshamsia4193 actually it’s very realistic point of view
it's the same in Europe and America. The rich always eat the poor.
Hope nothing but the best for the Tunisian people love from SIERRA LEONE 🙏
5:07 VfL Bochum's good work is being recognized in Tunisia 😄
Onkel Klaus-Dieter, schon gell ? lol!
Tunisia beautiful country things like this should be happening
Actually, Ennahdha lost in the 2014 legislative elections and presidential elections (to Nidaa Tounes and Beji Caid Essebsi) but in 2019 they lost only the presidency and won the legislative elections (with only 52 seats out of 217).
Well done, it really describes everything beautifully
Biased report and dark narrative. They only focused on the Ennahda mandate (2011-2014) and skipped for some reason Nidaa Tounes (the secularist party) mandate (2014-2019). They head straight to current coservative president and skipped on purpose president Beji Caid Essebsi who was not only secularist but also a feminist.
No mention for the revolution's gains: huge poltical rights, political plurality, freedom of media, freedom of expression, right to protest, removal of some sexist laws...
How about doing an objective report and show the 2 sides?
whats the point of political rights , freedom, expression,protests with a ruined economy filled with corruption and miss-management
@@zaafraneomar1294 so you see no correlation between a developed economy and human rights ? How can you not see that women emancipation is important for a society development. Do you think the economy is gonna build itself ? The economy starts running when the society has rights and good education
@@nourhenkhemili5766 look at singapore for example
No freedom no rights and
They have no ressources
Yet they are second wealthiest country in the world
Freedom is not a condition for a great economy
A dictator leader who loves his country and with a good management can build a great economy from scratch
It takes time to find stabilization, but it's the right path.
God bless Tunisia my lovely country 🇹🇳 ✌️ ❤️
Tunisia is a beautiful country.
Im half tunisian and half dutch
Was a great place is more accurate ,After electing a religious government I wonder what could possibly go wrong !
@@Chakolasworldwide religious gov ?? Do u people have any clue about politics in tunisia ??? What religious goverment are you talking about!
@@latifaahmd9408 according to this report and other news sources there's still a lot of conservative resistance not allowing reforms
@@Chakolasworldwide religious government??.
The current Tunisian government and parliament are democratic and they include both seculars and religious individuals
ISLAMISTS themselves can't do anything in the government,they work with the others.
The elected president is independent and the conservatives won more seats but they're still corporating with the rest in the gov.
In Tunisia religious parties are not "that religious" infact we can just call them a little bit conservative which is against the Tunisian people's mentality in general
Things will work better in the next elections hopefully,citizens learned from their previous mistakes
I had a roommate who was from Tunisia. I bet he's happy to be here in the U.S. rather than back in his home country where opportunities are limited.
Great intro
Great people and a great country.
So humble lol XD 8:50 "it needs a hundreds or thousands of people like myself to tackle and win the battle"
I don't think he meant it to come out like that 😂
Why wasn't Sudan included in that Arab spring map intro either?
Vice News Vice News hahaha Voce News baby 🔥💯
Yes, more freedom and liberty. Less government , power to the people.
yess like irak. And after that when there is a power vacuum why not.
This documentary is only describing the surface of things, no in-depth analysis whatsoever. It's like " صف ما شاهدت "
I found that "To us, 300 people killed is not peaceful" comment a little condescending. I don't care where you're from - Syria, Iraq, Egypt or Libya - no one considers 300 people killed "peaceful".
And they should be greatful only 300 died unlike others who lost thousands and some are in ruin with no clear future
Look at the death toll of most revolutions throughout history. wink wink french revolution for example. what she meant is that most revolutions have a far greater death toll but that doesn't make the Tunisian revolution with only 300 people killed peaceful, well, because every human life is important .
We are young in democracy that's why
🇹🇳
hopefully you'll get there eventually
And the only true democracy in the Arab world
@Aymen BEN HENDA
the truth is that democracy/ liberalism and economic growth are two different and independent things. liberalism is just an ideology that helps some western men spread their power in the world. economic growth doesn't need democracy.
The tunisian revolution started in the football stadiums since 2007 until the end January 14th.
You made a mistake, at 1:27, On the map, Kuwait which is not a part of Iraq, was colored red.. Its a separate country which never had any uprisings...
Saddam begs to differ
@@wguid Saddam was hanged like a damn peasant, who cares what he thinks.
Tunisia's revolution, like Egypt's is a work in progress, give them time. It is much easier to destroy a political system than to build a new one.
egypt is not a work in progress lol you guys have a dictator that is never going away you guys should have kept Mohamed Morsi and btw sisi has made a new law that will keep him in office until 2034
I'm from Tunisia, I'm actually in Djerba right now. This country is stuck, it will never change if it will continue this way.
Faut pas etre pessimiste, wallah ca ira mieux au moins les langues se delient.
I support & respect deeply my fellow Tunisians Friends.
Yes fight for your country, unite all Tunisians & fight for your rights.
@@millennialsgenerationmalay8591 I'm atheist too. I will study in the US in 3 years.
@@AnisJerbi ayeeee, me too lol.😂♥️🇲🇾🇹🇳🇺🇲
@@samiathabet1343 not to sound arrogant but I'm not most Tunisians...
proud to be Tunisian.
These people that talked in this interview do not represent us the street, the hood, next time if you want know what are real problems come to the hood
ok you tell VICE how miserable everybody is and how the country is close to getting to a Libya situation. And then what?
Voodoochileish that’s called the truth , this documentary just scratched the surface of corruption in tunisia
Sort of random question: that thing about women not normally going to the final burial place during the funeral; is that common throughout Islam, or is it just, like a Tunisian thing? I've never heard of that before.
It's throughout Islam. Mainly because pre-Islamic Arabs would hire women to cry loudly at funerals, so when Islam was introduced, this practice was forbidden. But it also resulted in women being discouraged from attending burials. As far as I'm aware there's nothing in scripture that actually forbids women from attending the burial so maybe as time goes on that will change.
A Funeral in Islam is divided. Men and women are not allowed to mourn in the same location. The funeral is split between men and women. Only men are allowed during the burial because its their duty to bury the deceased. Afterwards, 2 locations are chosen, one where men go to pay their respects for the family of the deceased, while the other one is set for females. Some countries , like the Gulf countries allow for only close family members of the opposite sex to mourn together.
Im American..African American Sunni Muslim born and raised and Yes...its throughout Islam
@@whitedeath9 We don't hire women to cry but many do cry.
@@MrSir413 no bro , a women can attend a funeral if she can hold herself quit and don't disturb the burying and of course with a headscarf.also she is not allowed to touch the dead person if he's not a relative ( father , brother or husband). by the way i'm sunni too
s/o to breadman! 🥖
He embodies liberty.
It's the bad government get rid of the bad government and increased wages get a government that cares for the people cuz it's the people that run the country and they will be okay
It's more deeper than that
So many uneducated people falling for cheap propaganda, electing failing governments.
What's the song used at the intro 1:05 ?
use shazam
@@belhassenleger7371 it did not work
Notting will ever change. 👍
Unless we force them change .
You should change your name to Nihilism
If nothing changes we will force it to
@@carthagianqueen3181 and how are you planning on doing that.😜
With less people like you, we can do better 😎
The problem with time Tunisia is the government takes people for granted and they have to fight back it doesn't care about them because if you did it wouldn't be happening people have to fight back and I don't blame them wages should be better because it's a beautiful country if wages were better people wouldn't be angry people wouldn't be starving people wouldn't be looking for food or money so increase the wages to make it more better for the people and not have a selfish government that doesn't care for the people which he should
It doesn't work we keep electing losers every time we had like 9 governments so far they all did pretty much the same thing they get in they make deals with the rich monopolies running the economy while taking as much money as they can corruption is so deep in the system it can't be fixed.
thats what happen when you mix religion and politics
Religion and politics are one and the same
I read in the daily fail that whoever got in after they overthrew was himself overthrown by his defence secretary which I thought was hilarious. Politics and religion shouldn't mix but they always have and always will, same way people will use Christianity as a political tool in America and the UK because whether or not you believe in religion, it still drives alot of people and people use the (real or not real) belief of "God" (/ Allah etc) as justification for their actions ( attitudes towards gays, attitudes towards the West etc) and people's "faith" is why they will act a certain way because they believe whatever their scripture is is canon. The only religion that *should* be in politics though is Buddhism, all the others suck
Those who govern hold the gun to your head
With religions, corporations, proud of the blood they've shed
Whether it's God or the bomb, it's just the same
It's only fear under another name
that's what happens when you want to force out the people's faith from the organization of their everyday life
@@TheEpiCool No? I absolutely disagree with you. Politics and religion are quite separated in civilised countries except for example Saudi Arabia or Poland.
I have heard of Mohamad bwazizi for years... what did he look like? How do you spell his name?
The picture held at 0:21 is Mohamed Bouazizi. Multiple spelling are possible but the most common is the one i used.
Change takes time. The oldest democracies are still changing and haven't gotten it completely right because there's always something to improve in a democracy.
Like who for example?
democracy doesn't work, it is fake
@@TeddyKrimsony I mean alot of democracies are here and they still havent collapsed
8:50 I think his comment on violence is the most intellectual view of our society today.
Going to jail for having in your pocket less than 100 grams of marijuana for personal use is just plain stupid law.
Spaso, tons of blackamericans are in jail for this but in 2021 , it has become trendy to consume marijane to be hippy
the problem is not anymore "freedom" .. it is "economic"!!
Saidia Mosbah Button ❤️🇹🇳 We are all Tunisians from white to black - that is TUNISIA - No Color - No King - Just A Country of brotherhood
We in Algeria and Morocco need to follow Tunisia's example and make strides in abolishing arbitrary rule and lack of popular sovereignty. I feel the Tunisian revolution will not succeed unless the other larger Maghreb countries follow its example and all cooperate as a democratic block. Certain countries outside the region tried to abort the Tunisian revolution and are succeeding to some extent in Libya because North Africa's unity failed to defend its borders with the Middle East. Libya is right now a Middle Eastern offshoot thanks to Hafthar who will turn the country into a second Egypt (politically). The armies of Algeria and Morocco should have scattered Hafthar and snuffed out the possibility of Libya becoming a base from which to dim the democratic transformations taking shape to the west. What is going on in Libya is an emergency for the region that is being practically ignored.
i mean i really don't know why those politicians add religion to politics, and how people cant get that these political parties want the majority of tunisians to vote and support them using these tricks
Actually we have an old generation they grow up whit dictators presidents that make them have no knowledge in political science and they remove the media to let them think that they have to protect they religion by selecting them and the government put the young people who’s want to change this country to better in prisent before every selection for no reason sometimes to be sure that they going to win and they make them quite the country even by illegal ways like that they can roule the country like they wish .
It really feels like Vice interviews the same type of people every country they go. I really don't think the average protestor in either the 2011 revolution or the protests that have happened every now and then were feminists, human rights activists, or dogmatic socialists. The vast majority were normal people that were just angry at the poverty and economic humiliation that they were dealing with and still are now. Instead of interviewing the average Tunisian, they interviewed elite activists who pinned a lot of blame on individuals and groups they could not name, and the rest of the blame on Ennahda, a party that is guilty chiefly because it is their main ideological rival. I have a feeling that the rest of this series is going to give us similarly incomplete pictures.
Thank you I was gonna say exactly this
western agendas
Down with the socialist economic system
Would've never thought that there were Black Tunisians. This is refreshing. Great report Vice and Politics is a disease.
Why wouldn't there be black Tunisians? Tunisia is in Africa and slavery has been abolished in 1857.
could only find a link in french sorry fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacte_fondamental_de_1857
Tunisia was the first country to abolish slavery in the world.
Free Us 😡🇹🇳
R u guys free yet ?
Tunisia is a secular liberal country since long time. Why is it poor for so long?
no real economy except for tourism
Poor governance
The country is poor
Their citizens cant accept the relaity
@@sorrybro4890 and only long term investment s are gonna improve the situation
@@sorrybro4890 Tunisia has natural resources, they could be much richer, same for Algeria.
Im from Morocco 🇲🇦
Nobody asked and Nobody cares
Esperance Sportive Tunis
I'm glad they are able to be politically active in their country. In many other countries it is not even possible to be active.
For example?
@@sudarshan3965 In many countries, the ruling government doesn't allow any activity that is not in line with the political establishment. You can easily see some examples by searching for "world political freedom".
A "secular" dictator or Islamo-fascist "democracy" seem to be the only two choices for people in MENA region. Whether it's Egypt, Libya, Syria or Tunisia, the liberal opposition is never in a position to make gains from fall of a dictator, perhaps because they're limited to upper classes. Of course, elitism is the Achilles' heel of liberalism everywhere.
Lol who told you this bullshit ?
dont be fooled by the arab spring, it bringed nothing than misery in tunisia, im tunisian and live in tunisia and i know what im talkin about, before it was 1000 better, despite what the world think democracy is a bad thing in arab countries
it's the same in Eastern Europe, our economies were better before the revolutions.
@@TeddyKrimsony
Thanks to Soviet aid.
One of the problems with these uprisings is there isn’t ever a good replacement. All of the uprisings from the Arab spring brought about someone way worse. There needs to be one leader that not just Nationals get behind, but all Muslims need to get behind, and there needs to be a way to oust these people without causing a situation like we saw in Syria or Libya. There needs to be a plan, not just blind outrage.
Democracy is the rule of the majority which happens to be poor religious people. Every major philosopher [plato, aristotle, socrates ....etc] have spoken against democracy. The west are all fake democracies and they use the ideology to make their people think that they're in control of the government and to fool other nations into dismantling their governments and replace them with a democratic one that can be bought or pressured into doing what the west want.
@@TeddyKrimsony love u 👏👏👏
this arab spring was nothing more than a mistake it just gave more power to those crazy islamic parties
It's much more complicated than that
they wanted democracy and now they got democracy, it is the rule of the most numerous which happens to be poor religious people.
14:40 sounds just like the good ole USA!
What’s population have anything to do with it?
We are still marginalizing communities to keep them in poverty amongst other things that were said
@Viva Mojito is missing the point
@@thereal6131 I think he's just adding context, I'm pretty sure he knows what you are saying.
@@AsiaMinor12 I don’t think so otherwise he would not have added a smart ass comment
Ok. Cool report. How does this serve us Tunisians anyway?... It doesn't. If anything, it will make it even more difficult. Showing the terrorism narrative from 7 years ago, isn't going to help us in any way. Nobody other than tunisian themselves really care about Tunisia. I've never understood why some of the tunisian activists love sharing their feelings with foreign media. What is it what we're seeking? Pity? Empathy? ok, and then what? In practice, nobody would watch this video and think "oh I'd really love to spend my holidays in Tunisia". Do we want foreign intervention? Nope. If anything, this serves a really ancient narrative of a region being in crisis and the west would get involved to "save the day". Pathetic
we know what started it but what was the ignition? I cant be the only one who thought that was hilarious but also rude. The guy set himself on fire
Yeah i found that ironic as well. I expected it to be a top comment, i guess not many people noticed.
Vice can be hit and miss at times but when they hit, THEY HIT 🎯
lonso, chico the content is free but you are always bitching.
Never expect secularism in a islamic majority
More ads than public tv so no thanks
Just use Adblocker
It seems as everyone is tired of the government everywhere in the world. Who do they work for?
This Vice interview gave me hope . I was waiting for the" they have extremists ruling them we should give them democracy ". But thank god we don't have oil in this country😅
uncle sam is busy tho
lol yes we do, نم يا حبيبي نم
@@noone3367 it is just a drop not worth . Not like Algeria or Libya.
@@majdfares6637 and a lot compared to japan and don't forget about phosphates.
Video was honest and all till 10:45 that's when the journalist showed her true colors that she doesn't understand anything about what happened and happening in tunisia , u can see it even by the people she interviewed : a small minority .
Vice paints this like it is real revolution. Most people would prefer to return to Ben Ali because the country was more stable and islam was less influential. The attacks in Tunis and sousse wouldn't have happened under ben Ali because extreme islam was stamped out early. The power moved from apparently 1 person and their regime to now the banks and the political theatre
I mean, you need to pay for a farming permit in america too
The Arab world is so boring at this point. It doesn't have that intrigue it did even a few years ago. I think most people now are just cringed by it. And clearly there is something wrong with the society as a whole over there, you just can't just blame the rulers like this is some sort of cartoon. Those same rulers are cut from the same cloth as the people. Perhaps try being honest, kind and friendly to each other and maybe, just maybe your situation may improve. I don't even think Vice should be wasting time on stuff like this, it's the same tired story for years and years. They will get a new government and a few years later will begin fighting again. There is something rotten to the core over there, let them figure it out. Quit giving them attention though, it just fuels their insanity.
dude, are you okay ? who hurt you ?
@@brikifarah3271 I'm fine, thanks for asking! I hope you try to understand that I'm not here to bash the Arab world, there was a time when I was actually sympathetic to their plight. As I got older I came to see that the vast majority of their problems are their own doing. And I think you answered the question on why that region is so messed, because people hurt each other a lot over there, and this most likely stems from the family/parenting.
@@proofy25 urtalking pure truth man well said..👏im from tunisia 🇹🇳 btw
@@thecamarade424 7achamtna ya camarade.. normal y9olek quit giving them attention.. ? 3leh bebe yebki 9odemou a7na ?
"Boring" and "cringed by it" and lost its intrigue.. dude we re people not a god damn tv show
Ben Ali living KSA, not anymore....
I remember being in tunis the first October November post tunisian spring and what surprised and concerned me about tunisia was the Graffiti on the surrounding walls of the medina.
I remember military presence tanks ak47 soldiers outside the medina and thinking this arab spring won't be over for a very long time.
May peace return to tunisia one day.
Inshallah
that sounds like an inspiring pile of bullshit considering that the tunisian army uses the austrian AUG styer not AK47s .
cut the crap dude.
Much love & all support for the Tunisians!♥️🇹🇳.
Fight for your country my fellow Tunisians Friends!
I support freedom of speech, Freedom of religion, freedom from religion, freedom of choice & LGBTQ+ rights for all Malaysians/Humanity♥️🇲🇾🇹🇳
I support freedom to practice Islam and resist the secular oppressors of Muslims☝☝
After talking about the guy that set himself on fire :"What's the reason behind the ignition in the first place " no pun intended
انهم فى حاجه الي قائد، قائد من الشعب لا ينام و اتباع يحملون محبه له و للبلد .
Would have loved for them to use a young Tunisian presenter for this, instead of a random journalist from the Middle East (not North Africa)
تونس قلبي
Arab spring was a reaction to the iraq invasion, now we're having a reaction to the arab spring = arab winter. Alot more people are more submissive/complacent towards their governments
Arab Spring was completely independent of the Iraq war
Iraq invasion= 2003
Arab Spring= 2011
@@whitedeath9 The resentment from the invasion was broiling throughout the region, alot of political positions influenced it
@@DgraymanKicksAss That resentment had been building even before the war. Some of those dictators had been in power for 30-40 years, abusing their people and sucking up all their wealth.
lol "arab spring" started in Tunisia🇹🇳 and has NOTHING to do with any other country
Dictatorship created wickedness and people had to revolt
libya , iraq , yemen , syria are destroyed by the arab spring ... only tunisia survived !!
the common things with dictators is using of police and police obey to dictators
Then how are The People ever heard?
this is exactly what happened in every single muslim country that had revolution in 20th/21st century. A semi-secular regime that was quite repressive was overthrown and an islamofascist party took power and killed and destroyed all the good things and all the problems remained. the problem with us from iran to algeria is that no one has the balls to point the real source of problem: islam. until islam rules violance and facism will continue in middle east and north africa
Image being a ret**d that think islam and fascism is the same thing
@@mostfire8764 cope
This aged so bad in just 8 months…
i wonder why vice never adds the english subtitles
How Tunisia became Arab, they lost their identity of Carthaganian like the great Hannibal Barca
Because the arabs invaded the region and spread islam so they can centralize their power from the Arabian peninsula. The arabs are no different to the French in tunisia
Lets be real here for a sec, if the president Ben Ali still leadin the country, Tunisia now would be in a way better economical spot than its current state lol