I was knocked of my GS last October landing heavy enough to write the bike off and break 8 ribs, I was wearing Marrakesh Jacket and Pants and Klim enduro S4 over the top, the S4 dealt with the abrasion quite well a few holes, however hospital staff were quite amazed the I got away with superficial grazing knees and elbows, both Jacket and pants are still fully usable and a testament to the robustness of the material, I might consider chest protection in future
Chris just had a pair delivered if you perfect review wore them yesterday 5/6/23 absolutely perfect for summer first 200 yards you could feel the breeze then after that ye didnt notice the breeze kept me nice & cool didnt even notice i had them on i ride a touring bike with a short boot but will be changing the ghost amour but they are the most comfortable motorbike pants i have ever worn i had the klim latitude jacket on all very good pants work out better for me as i have skinny legs 🦵 thanks again klim & chris 😊
@@TrekMoto I agree but my old Latin master unflinchingly asserted that when it comes to pronunciation "USAGE IS KING". Thus in the USA it is commonly like 'climb' but for good old Chris there in the UK its 'Klïm' as in limp. See what I did there? CP should just offer to sew in a zipper then everyone would be hunky dory. Absolutely fantastic review though in Chris's usual loquacious style.
Thank you for the overview, I actually just ordered some of these. Do you think these would fit over BMW Gravel EVO boots? They are very close to street boots like Daytona with two buckles.
Then why run Kevlar panels up the insides of the legs, as this is a sure indicator that Klim expect them to be worn on an off-road bike? The Marrakesh has always been about off-road riding, and air flow. CP.
I do think you need visuals for these demonstrations. A static set of pants/jacket/boots/etc is all very well, but you need to have more than a talking heads approach. Interactive and cut with close ups, diagrams and videos of the details being discussed would engage more and complement the narrative. Just an idea - but more work of course.
I would wear these with an adventure boot on the outside of the trouser leg. I personally find it more comfortable that way as everything feels nicely held in place and there's no tugging at parts of the boots.
I did cover this in my review. With the extra 500 denier Cordura at the hem, these pants are going to be very uncomfortable inside a boot. You can try, but we don’t think it will work. CP
@Motolegends these are a summer option do you do anything similar that would suit spring/autumn cold Scotish Highlands weather but with the narrow leg?
5:02 Surly they are now designed to be worn inside the boot, and my preferred style with off road boots, road riding over the boots, so they sound perfect for my style of riding
Bought these summer pants recently. Very impressed. Cool on hot days comfortable on cold mornings! Wear Daytona boots no problem ! Excellent would highly recomend.
You didn't mention how the sizing was way off on the original version of these pants. I am a 34 waist, got these in 32 and they are still much too big in the waist. A 30 would probably have been more appropriate. Have they addressed the sizing issue with the new pants?
I'm a huge Klim fan and wear their Apex jacket, pants (womens sz 4) and airbag vest with a fully paid membership w/ the app. Quality is 100% raved about by me to everyone who I ride with (not annoyingly though) but my ONLY gripe with the brand is they don't have pants that are 28-30 in Waist for men other than Kodiaks..... I too would love a summer pant in my size, or anything other than Kodiaks. Who doesn't love options?
Would these go over a pair of RST Adv boots as they're not the most bulky? I wear thick leather trousers tucked into them usually and comfort's only an issue of the leg length is too long where the hem or zip catches the ankle. If these were available in a 30 or 31 inch leg length then I'd imagine they'd be no less comfortable than my (thicker) leathers tucked in?
I wear these with the Alpinestar Belize Drystar boots which have better ankle protection than most adventure boots by far and are one of the only shorter adventure boots to have decent lower shin protection. I do only wear the Marrakesh for road riding as I have other jackets and pants for other kinds of riding.
Given that these pants have only been on the market for a few weeks, albeit perhaps for a bit longer in the US, it may be that you have worn your Alpinestars inside the old Marrakesh pants. I may be wrong, but I would be surprised if these boots will fit inside the new version. I may be wrong! CP.
@@Motolegends The Belize are in the "short" boot category you mention. The Corozal is the longer boot. The Belize is fairly unique in the segment it occupies. Give them a try if you have them on hand, they are very protective for what they are and surprisingly versatile. Klim HQ is a bit over a 9 hour drive from my house.
To me the D30 L1 Ghost Armor is insufficient. So I purchased D30 L2 Ghost Armor for jacket and pants. It make the gear feel only slightly more bulky, while making me feel a bit more protected.
@@kee7678 Working fine. After wearing a bit I don’t notice. Klim ships the original with L1 with the orange triangle D30 inward and the smooth black side of pad outward so the triangles don’t print, I think. when I got the L2 I originally put in that way, but the bottom ends of the knee armor turned in on my skins and I could feel when I walked (but not on bike). So I reversed the armor to have traditional way with the orange triangles facing out and the smooth side against my body and now all is good.
@@stephenscott6570 Understood. I love my Marrakesh jacket, but ordered elbows in L2 and might get shoulders too. I love it...but also feel...slower type fall and putting elbows dowm or landing on shoulder..will NOT be a 'safe" as my other tougher, more robust, more padded, less comfortable jackets would hurt LESS than this Marrakesh. But 80% or more Of my riding is...road. So yeah I always reach for this one, and sometimes put my Kuiu insulated shirt underneath. Thanks!
@@kee7678 Yeah the D30 Ghost L2 is still fairly flimsy. I own Klim Induction and Carlsbad as well. Induction mesh is cooler with more airflow than Marrakesh and the armor is the regular D30 L1. It must be more protective than Ghost L1. I wear it when temps get over 90degF. Carlsbad has D30 L2 and clearly more protective, but also hotter when it gets over 75degF, even with all vents open. I use that mostly 3 seasons.
@@stephenscott6570 ok that makes sense. My Rev'it mesh jacket is cooler than the Marrakesh and my other Revi't, similar to the Carlsbad...is what I use a lot also. It's crazy trying to explain why I've spent SO. MUCH...on SO MANY jackets LOL...to people who don't ride.
Thanks for an honest review. I was really thinking to buy the new 2023 Marrakesh pants, but i won’t buy them as i cannot wear them over my adventure boots. Thanks for that essential information. Best regards from Montreal.
Yes, but i don’t think that was Klim’s intent. They have run Kevlar up the inside of the legs; a sure sign that there’s an expectation that the wearer will be riding off road. I simply think they have got it wrong. They have made the opening too narrow. CP.
@@seba7422 sikes, I bought the S4. the only thing that doesnt click is it looks a bit too technical, but most of the time I take it off when I get off the bike so there’s that.
Full disclosure: I used to ride on my road bike wearing full on enduro gear to the dirt track (where I’d ride a motocross bike). Got plenty of abuse from fellow road users and rightly so. 😂😂😂
Hi Chris, I've just had a pair delivered from you and I've tested them over my Klim Adventure boots and they fit fine, a little snug getting the hem over the top but once that's done they fit a treat. I'll try them in anger in the Pyrenees at the end of the month but for those put off by your 'too narrow' feedback I'd encourage them to try them with their boots, they might be fine and it's such a comfortable trouser 👍
Not in a million years will the new Marrakesh pant go over a pair of Klim Adventure boots. You have bought two pairs of Marrakesh pants from us. Your first pair-the old ones- will go over the boots; the new Marrakesh pant won’t. The only other possibility is that we accidentally sent you a second pair of the old ones. The easiest way to check is to look at the armour. The new ones have Ghost armour. But let me reiterate, the new pant won’t get close to going over your boots. CP
@FITNESSOVER45 Sounds wrong to me. Wouldn’t it have an e or a b at the end if it was pronounced like that. As you state KLIME is pronounced KLIME. Surely KLIM cannot be pronounced the same? CP
@FITNESSOVER45 No, I’m not wrong. Akrapovik comes from Slovenia. Ohlins is Swedish. But there is no such thing as an accent in the English language, and even though our American cousins make a bit of a hash of it, their first language is English. If you find an English word with an accent or some other phonetic device, please let me know! CP
@@Motolegendswell, I've not ridden a million miles but I've covered about 6k wearing them, so, sorry to contradict but they do. Like I said originally I would check before making a decision but the new version fits over the KLIM boot. Maybe it's a size issue, larger size has a larger leg width?
@@Motolegends Accents and accent marks are two different things. Written English has no diacritical marks, however, it does have 'accents' which are unmarked when written and employed when speaking. The marvel of English is that it is a mongrel bas***d language full of French, Latin, Greek, etc. But you all knew that. As for 'cousins' in the USA making a "hash" of it, it must be remembered that all language is "fluid". English itself, in England, has radically evolved over the centuries and the USA form is just one more species of the kind. We could say they are all "correct" contextually and all "wrong" when mis-contextualised. I suppose it is one of those, "When in Rome" situations. This should save us all from that very un-English character-flaw of conceit. I may just opt for one of the Mosko pants and the Klim jacket. I repeat, Chris does a great job of reviewing even if his English is from time to time somewhat less than perfect.
Again with Klim, if you are tall and and a bit rotund (ok fat), Klim does not make a pant for you. The long leg version only goes to a 38 waist. The 42 waist is only available in a regular length which is too short. I own 3 Klim jackets, all XXL but they have yet to make a pair of pants that fit a guy my size.
Nice clip... I couldn't decipher the name of the Rukka pants that you like to couple with the Marrakesh jacket... a Rukka...?? Singl**** ? Sorry my audio isn't that great. Could you spell it please? Thx.
I was knocked of my GS last October landing heavy enough to write the bike off and break 8 ribs, I was wearing Marrakesh Jacket and Pants and Klim enduro S4 over the top, the S4 dealt with the abrasion quite well a few holes, however hospital staff were quite amazed the I got away with superficial grazing knees and elbows, both Jacket and pants are still fully usable and a testament to the robustness of the material, I might consider chest protection in future
Great info. Glad you are still alive to tell the tale. Cheers!🙏🏾
Send them to Kim they give you new ones for free.
Chris just had a pair delivered if you perfect review wore them yesterday 5/6/23 absolutely perfect for summer first 200 yards you could feel the breeze then after that ye didnt notice the breeze kept me nice & cool didnt even notice i had them on i ride a touring bike with a short boot but will be changing the ghost amour but they are the most comfortable motorbike pants i have ever worn i had the klim latitude jacket on all very good pants work out better for me as i have skinny legs 🦵 thanks again klim & chris 😊
Just discovered your channel, really love the thoroughness of your gear reviews. Just FYI, Klīm is pronounced with a hard “i” :)
Yep, like "climb."
@@TrekMoto I agree but my old Latin master unflinchingly asserted that when it comes to pronunciation "USAGE IS KING". Thus in the USA it is commonly like 'climb' but for good old Chris there in the UK its 'Klïm' as in limp. See what I did there?
CP should just offer to sew in a zipper then everyone would be hunky dory.
Absolutely fantastic review though in Chris's usual loquacious style.
A marakesh pant for ITB wear would be an ideal pant for ADV riding in enduro boots.
Klim Mojave will flow more air?
Thank you for the overview, I actually just ordered some of these. Do you think these would fit over BMW Gravel EVO boots? They are very close to street boots like Daytona with two buckles.
Not sure. If you’ve ordered the old ones you’ll have no problem, provided you like flares. May be an issue with the new version. CP.
I don’t really think these were meant to be specifically off-road… their web page for the pant advertises a more street oriented view
Then why run Kevlar panels up the insides of the legs, as this is a sure indicator that Klim expect them to be worn on an off-road bike? The Marrakesh has always been about off-road riding, and air flow. CP.
@@Motolegends Not true. On Klim's website, Marrakesh is categorized neither under adventure nor off-road but under the touring section.
Pants fit perfectly over Adventure style boots. I’m currently wearing them over a pair of Sidi Adveture’s….no issues at all
Ah man that's music to my ears.
My Marrakesh pants go over my Sidi Adventure 2 without significant problems and these boots have good shin protection.
The newer version? I was specifically wondering if the Sidi Adventure 2s would fit inside, or could I just tuck them in the boots.
That’s good to know as I have these boots too
Great boots I have to say
I do think you need visuals for these demonstrations. A static set of pants/jacket/boots/etc is all very well, but you need to have more than a talking heads approach. Interactive and cut with close ups, diagrams and videos of the details being discussed would engage more and complement the narrative. Just an idea - but more work of course.
Always worn my trousers inside tall boots and pants under trousers.
These are too thick to go inside. CP
Ghost protector is a nightmare - constantly rolled up.
I would wear these with an adventure boot on the outside of the trouser leg. I personally find it more comfortable that way as everything feels nicely held in place and there's no tugging at parts of the boots.
I did cover this in my review. With the extra 500 denier Cordura at the hem, these pants are going to be very uncomfortable inside a boot. You can try, but we don’t think it will work. CP
@Motolegends these are a summer option do you do anything similar that would suit spring/autumn cold Scotish Highlands weather but with the narrow leg?
Id love a Marrakesh jacket with a pair of jeans. Just got anew bike. Gotta wait.
5:02 Surly they are now designed to be worn inside the boot, and my preferred style with off road boots, road riding over the boots, so they sound perfect for my style of riding
No, the pants are just too thick and heavy to do that comfortably. CP.
With the Marrakesh jacket I know you recommend the Zephyr jacket as a wind blocker. What do you recommend for the trousers?
This ⬆️
why not making those for ladies too...a waste :-(
Ive written in twice recommending this - it seems a no-brainer with how nicely the fabric stretches! My wife would love a pair.
@@cblais19 exactly!
Or you could tuck the pants in the boots ..
The fabric is a bit too thick for that, I suspect. CP
Klim is pronounced Climb
Bought these summer pants recently. Very impressed. Cool on hot days comfortable on cold mornings! Wear Daytona boots no problem ! Excellent would highly recomend.
You didn't mention how the sizing was way off on the original version of these pants. I am a 34 waist, got these in 32 and they are still much too big in the waist. A 30 would probably have been more appropriate. Have they addressed the sizing issue with the new pants?
I'm a huge Klim fan and wear their Apex jacket, pants (womens sz 4) and airbag vest with a fully paid membership w/ the app. Quality is 100% raved about by me to everyone who I ride with (not annoyingly though) but my ONLY gripe with the brand is they don't have pants that are 28-30 in Waist for men other than Kodiaks..... I too would love a summer pant in my size, or anything other than Kodiaks. Who doesn't love options?
Would these go over a pair of RST Adv boots as they're not the most bulky? I wear thick leather trousers tucked into them usually and comfort's only an issue of the leg length is too long where the hem or zip catches the ankle. If these were available in a 30 or 31 inch leg length then I'd imagine they'd be no less comfortable than my (thicker) leathers tucked in?
Klim Induction Jacket and Pants far better flowing air than Marrakesh, IMO.
my 34 reg fit perfectly over my Daytona roadsters AND my Gaerne Dakar (both size 43)
I really appreciate your channel! Would these pants fit over SIDI Armada Gore-Tex boots?
I wear these with the Alpinestar Belize Drystar boots which have better ankle protection than most adventure boots by far and are one of the only shorter adventure boots to have decent lower shin protection. I do only wear the Marrakesh for road riding as I have other jackets and pants for other kinds of riding.
Given that these pants have only been on the market for a few weeks, albeit perhaps for a bit longer in the US, it may be that you have worn your Alpinestars inside the old Marrakesh pants. I may be wrong, but I would be surprised if these boots will fit inside the new version. I may be wrong! CP.
@@Motolegends The Belize are in the "short" boot category you mention. The Corozal is the longer boot. The Belize is fairly unique in the segment it occupies. Give them a try if you have them on hand, they are very protective for what they are and surprisingly versatile. Klim HQ is a bit over a 9 hour drive from my house.
This is THE best review of this pant. Anyone know if these will fit over Forma low boots?
To me the D30 L1 Ghost Armor is insufficient. So I purchased D30 L2 Ghost Armor for jacket and pants. It make the gear feel only slightly more bulky, while making me feel a bit more protected.
How is that working for you? I just ordered some L2 myself....waiting for delivery.
@@kee7678 Working fine. After wearing a bit I don’t notice. Klim ships the original with L1 with the orange triangle D30 inward and the smooth black side of pad outward so the triangles don’t print, I think. when I got the L2 I originally put in that way, but the bottom ends of the knee armor turned in on my skins and I could feel when I walked (but not on bike). So I reversed the armor to have traditional way with the orange triangles facing out and the smooth side against my body and now all is good.
@@stephenscott6570 Understood. I love my Marrakesh jacket, but ordered elbows in L2 and might get shoulders too. I love it...but also feel...slower type fall and putting elbows dowm or landing on shoulder..will NOT be a 'safe" as my other tougher, more robust, more padded, less comfortable jackets would hurt LESS than this Marrakesh. But 80% or more Of my riding is...road. So yeah I always reach for this one, and sometimes put my Kuiu insulated shirt underneath. Thanks!
@@kee7678 Yeah the D30 Ghost L2 is still fairly flimsy. I own Klim Induction and Carlsbad as well. Induction mesh is cooler with more airflow than Marrakesh and the armor is the regular D30 L1. It must be more protective than Ghost L1. I wear it when temps get over 90degF. Carlsbad has D30 L2 and clearly more protective, but also hotter when it gets over 75degF, even with all vents open. I use that mostly 3 seasons.
@@stephenscott6570 ok that makes sense. My Rev'it mesh jacket is cooler than the Marrakesh and my other Revi't, similar to the Carlsbad...is what I use a lot also. It's crazy trying to explain why I've spent SO. MUCH...on SO MANY jackets LOL...to people who don't ride.
Thank you for another professional review.
Thanks for an honest review. I was really thinking to buy the new 2023 Marrakesh pants, but i won’t buy them as i cannot wear them over my adventure boots. Thanks for that essential information. Best regards from Montreal.
@@Motolegends. thanks for offer, but i am not on Telegram…
Where do I put my wallet? LOL :)
I believe it's tailored for touring on pavement type roads, that's what I gather from the new design.
Yes, but i don’t think that was Klim’s intent. They have run Kevlar up the inside of the legs; a sure sign that there’s an expectation that the wearer will be riding off road. I simply think they have got it wrong. They have made the opening too narrow. CP.
Can you tell me which one, the Marrakesh or the Baja S4 (jacket and pant) flow air better under extreme heat (35-40C)?
Baja flows much better, no comparison here, Marrakesh are more stylish though.
@@seba7422 sikes, I bought the S4. the only thing that doesnt click is it looks a bit too technical, but most of the time I take it off when I get off the bike so there’s that.
Good honest review, really appreciated!
‘…a Paris Dakar entrant who has maybe taken a wrong turning.’ 🤣🤣🤣
Full disclosure: I used to ride on my road bike wearing full on enduro gear to the dirt track (where I’d ride a motocross bike). Got plenty of abuse from fellow road users and rightly so. 😂😂😂
They do
Rain? Cold?
KLIM NEVER MAKE FAT MAN SIZES 42" WAIST MAX I NEED 54
Yep, we hear you. Don’t expect things to change overnight. There are other brands undoubtedly that will work better for you. CP.
Pants? Trousers u 🤡
Hi Chris, I've just had a pair delivered from you and I've tested them over my Klim Adventure boots and they fit fine, a little snug getting the hem over the top but once that's done they fit a treat. I'll try them in anger in the Pyrenees at the end of the month but for those put off by your 'too narrow' feedback I'd encourage them to try them with their boots, they might be fine and it's such a comfortable trouser 👍
Not in a million years will the new Marrakesh pant go over a pair of Klim Adventure boots. You have bought two pairs of Marrakesh pants from us. Your first pair-the old ones- will go over the boots; the new Marrakesh pant won’t. The only other possibility is that we accidentally sent you a second pair of the old ones. The easiest way to check is to look at the armour. The new ones have Ghost armour. But let me reiterate, the new pant won’t get close to going over your boots. CP
@FITNESSOVER45 Sounds wrong to me. Wouldn’t it have an e or a b at the end if it was pronounced like that. As you state KLIME is pronounced KLIME. Surely KLIM cannot be pronounced the same? CP
@FITNESSOVER45 No, I’m not wrong. Akrapovik comes from Slovenia. Ohlins is Swedish. But there is no such thing as an accent in the English language, and even though our American cousins make a bit of a hash of it, their first language is English. If you find an English word with an accent or some other phonetic device, please let me know! CP
@@Motolegendswell, I've not ridden a million miles but I've covered about 6k wearing them, so, sorry to contradict but they do. Like I said originally I would check before making a decision but the new version fits over the KLIM boot. Maybe it's a size issue, larger size has a larger leg width?
@@Motolegends Accents and accent marks are two different things. Written English has no diacritical marks, however, it does have 'accents' which are unmarked when written and employed when speaking. The marvel of English is that it is a mongrel bas***d language full of French, Latin, Greek, etc. But you all knew that.
As for 'cousins' in the USA making a "hash" of it, it must be remembered that all language is "fluid". English itself, in England, has radically evolved over the centuries and the USA form is just one more species of the kind. We could say they are all "correct" contextually and all "wrong" when mis-contextualised. I suppose it is one of those, "When in Rome" situations. This should save us all from that very un-English character-flaw of conceit.
I may just opt for one of the Mosko pants and the Klim jacket.
I repeat, Chris does a great job of reviewing even if his English is from time to time somewhat less than perfect.
Again with Klim, if you are tall and and a bit rotund (ok fat), Klim does not make a pant for you. The long leg version only goes to a 38 waist. The 42 waist is only available in a regular length which is too short. I own 3 Klim jackets, all XXL but they have yet to make a pair of pants that fit a guy my size.
Good review. It's pronounced like Climb. Long I. Notice the dash above the I indicating long vowel.
Nice clip... I couldn't decipher the name of the Rukka pants that you like to couple with the Marrakesh jacket... a Rukka...?? Singl**** ? Sorry my audio isn't that great. Could you spell it please? Thx.
Rokker single-layer Legend jeans. CP
Are these very new or out of production because not even the Klim website has very many different sizes in stock.
We’ve probably bought all the stock! CP.
Nice review but, do you pronounce “Klim” wrong on purpose?
Yes, he loves being pedantic