@ASH i made this comp exactly the same way the only difference with mine is i used walking dreng instead of mordicai because i don't have mordicai, i done around the same speeds as smileys comp mine goes like this : paragon puts unkillable on himself then coldheart fires off heartseeker dreng places burn coldheart with the second heartseeker renegade after that to reset the skills but then instead of the spiders attacking my paragon with unkillable they start attacking my coldhearts? i made sure he (paragon) has the lowest hp in the team i'm kinda lost idk how to fix the problem CAN ANYBODY PLEASE HELP ME OUT I REALLY NEED GUIDANCE Team Stats paragon 17khp 196 speed coldheart 32k hp 184 speed coldheart 38k hp 172 speed dreng 72k hp 183 speed renegade 48k hp 160 speed
Hi, I would like to say thank you for that video. I used to do the spider 20 because of a lack of motivation. Then, a clanmate shared your video. Now I can farm the spider 25 in about 50sec. I just made one modification : I replaced Parangon by Ultimate Death Knight en stone skin set. So, no matter if the little spiders focus someone else, he will always take the hit. Have a nice day :)
Love this colab! Just made this team with a Walking Tomb Dreng. 30 Paragon, 40 Renegade, 50 Dreng, 2x 60 Coldheart. Followed your speeds and i'm getting 100% win rate at 31-34 seconds per run. You guys are killing it!
Thanks to one of Smiley's videos (I once called him the Spider Whisperer), I found the comp that works for me: Coldheart@60, Achak @50, Mordecai@50, Coldheart #2 @50, Renegade. 32 second average. Thanks again Smiley! and ASH!
Thank you guys so much! I've been farming spider 25 at 2-2.5 mins since it came out . Now I'm doing 50 seconds since I'm on on mobile can't do unlimited fps, and ch crit dmg only at 180 silver farming just became easy :)
So I just built this with: Paragon(30) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended - Walking Tomb Dreng(50) No Books / No Ascension- 2x Coldheart(60) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended - Prince Kymar(60) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended. I can't do Spider 25 cause Dreng is negative affinity but I can farm Spider 24 in under 1 min consistently with so far a 100% success rate. Prior to this I was stuck on Spider 20. Thank you for posting this video!
Holy next level of thinking going on here Batman. Totally beyond my abilities to find but once the lights are on....wow, deliberately NOT building to take advantage of directing attackers during turn strikes. and to manipulate the AI!!! So simple it is exotic!!! Salute sir. So far outside the box Plarium can't even see it anymore. WITH MOSTLY FREAKING RARES!!!!!!!! Impressed isn't near a good enough word. Maybe ...ummmm.... Bravo Maestro or something on those lines.
I've tried this manual on stage 20 (no renegade, but a max Armiger) , and yet the spiderlings seem to want to target my other champs even with UK on paragon, specifically one of my 2 coldhearts (one still at 50 atm), but she still has way more HP than my paragon. I've seen it said cause of being also void, but yet that's not what I see in this video. I'm very confused.
holy sht... this is so smart... all this time I'm struggling finding a decent spider tank to help my team survive... and all it needs are 1 lvl 30 paragon??? XD... my helicath are doing a fantastic job but his counterattack just takes so long
Just got a version of this team running. I use Artak for the HP burn. I had to take his HP% gauntlets off to drop his HP enough that he doesn't kill the spiderlings. One of my Coldhearts isn't fully booked, so has a 4 turn cool down on heart seeker. Crit Damage is around 220 on each one. I use Artak's burn activation to speed up the run. A3, A2, reset, A3 and its done. Getting 40 sec runs on my phone (best is 37 sec)... Artak has 202 speed. One CH has 204 speed, the other 198. Renegade has 95 speed. Paragon has 153 speed.
Such a great comp. Thnx guys. 1 was farming spider 20 to save time , but now with kymer, 2 cold hearts , paragon and teumesia i am able to do bellow 40 sec runs and 100% win ratio. Silver farming is great for me now.
I made essentially the same team but with Ultimate Death Knight in stoneskin as slow as possible. Accomplishes the same thing. The extra figuring and tuning here will definitely help me improve my efficiency
Just tried building this but my paragon was too slow and got killed by the spiders before he got his turn. Make sure Paragon has enough speed that he gets his turn before the spiderlings do. In the video his speed was 153.
I just wish I'd seen this video before I upgraded Paragon to level 60. Now he's useless (HP too high, even without artifacts). I guess I'll just have to wait until I pull him again. Great collaboration there, thanks!
That is insane! I have had such a terrible time with Spider. It has even cost me a couple of fusions and now I see this? Oh, man. I am so thrilled right now! Thank You Smiley!
I believe if you're having problems with the spider targeting paragon, you have to make sure your other champs are the same or anti affinity of the spider
@@MickeNyberg Make sure everyone else on the team has atleast a difference of 20k HP from the paragon. The Paragon rank could also play a factor, but let me know how that goes for you!
This team is insane, insane... considering the champions involved and the damage done, it's insane how hard this team can carry with so little gear and very few ultra-rare champions. Insane work!
Saved this video. Got to have this. My current team isn’t a 100 on 25, it also takes like 3 mins. This is perfect for the low spender now free to play player I am
Great content still kind of new to your stuff quality work ! Maybe because this video was old, but for me, the spiral link keeps swapping off of paragon and everybody else is almost triple the hip points of him, did they change things aground now?
Appreciate this a lot. Was stuck on stage 18, but this comp helped me reach stage 21 spider. I die once or twice out of 10 times on that, but am comfortably farming stage 20 100%. Only difference is using Geomancer instead of a 2nd CH since I dont have 2.
This is amazing, I've been farming spider 20 until this..... One I realised to book mordecai shot up go to spider 25, first piece at 24 a lev 6 leg piece. Ash thanks for hosting Smiley, a great content creator. Smiley, love your work, this is amazing, can't wait for your gold pull
Awsome collab! Love the team i have the champions so i will get to work, cause my best time is spider 25 is 1:33 minute. Hopefully i can bring it down to 36 seconds. Great Video!
I had some issues with targeting & figured out I needed to have my Renegade not use her A2 until her 2nd turn so that she doesn't sacrifice health right away.
wow....i never comment even though i see all your videos Ash. This comp....bro i was struggling so much tried everything, even this, but my tuning was non existent. Didnt think speed tuning would make such difference! Thanks guys....! This works with my bad gear as well ! 40sec average.
I've been running this team since this video and for 20 I used Akoth. Something changed in Raid and the spider-lings now kill off one of my Coldhearts and Renegade first. I think you might need to get their HP up over 40K. As one of my cold-hearts is over 40K and after they kill the other two they go for Paragon before that Coldheart.
I know this video is kind of old but it helped me a lot! Been stuck for a while and I've been playing a long time . Working on a second cold heart but using Deacon for now. And using artak. 7/10 win rate but I see light at the end of the tunnel! 😅
After watching this video I re-arranged my team, I didn't have Paragon, so I used Gnarlhorn instead was getting pretty consistent 45 sec runs, pulled Paragon during the x10 Cardiel, just did a run in 29 seconds. 2 Coldhearts ~ 1 @ 50, other at 60, Sicia, and Prince Kymar. Also switched to Unlimited Frame Rate, not running RSL helper atm since it needs to be updated, perhaps that sped up my run? Anyway Ty Ash, and Smiley :)
to be honest, this is a pretty "OP" team. Mostly elusive void champions and an epic that's equally elusive. They just aren't leveled up and in crazy gear.
I just made this team. I don’t have mordecai I replaced it with ignatius but the results are the same. It’s way faster than my old team. Thx smiley for the team.
Hey Ash! Love your videos, been very informative since I began RAID a few months ago... I was wondering, I built a team like this, or at least wanted the strategy of giving 'unkillable' to my lowest health guy and made a build for the champion Taurus to be in place of Paragon (in the video). With Taurus' ascended A3, he goes down to 1 hp and gets Unkillable for 2 turns, but all the spiderlings keep going for my ColdHearts after I pull this off. Is there something I'm missing that makes Taurus ineligible for this role? Thanks!
I have everyone on your team that you mentioned except for Paragon & Renegade, so until I summon them, is there any other fighter’s I can substitute Paragon & Renegade with in-order to still get past the Spider Level?? 🤔
Was just thinking about this team. I already use Artak in my spider 20 team with a lvl 30 paragon lead and double Armiger. I have the two CH and Renegade and was thinking if I could halve my spider runs... Looks like question answered. Just got to build a second CH now.
I would say the barrier for entry is the Paragon. I happen to have 1 Coldheart, full book and Mastery. I started coming up with possible replacements throughout the video. No Paragon. Honestly, he's a real thorn in my side. I don't know of anyone else with that Unkillable skill timed out like that. It makes a lot of stupid combos work. Now, before anyone pops up with Swift Parry set, or w/e, note that the effect from that has a CD. Another one for the "Maybe Someday" list.
@@RuoninT RNG My point above was that the 2nd Coldheart could find a substitution, but Paragon is unique in his ability to keep Unkillable up all the time. Best anyone else can do is allow a 1 turn CD between casting and the end of the ability.
I'm trying to recreate this team and I try to follow it the best I can. My Renegade and Mordecai are level 40 and 50 respectively and my Paragon still level 30 but I just can't seem to keep the threat only on Paragon! The spiderlings target modecai or a cold heart usually instead of renegade and then it's lights out! Help!
You want to make sure the Paragon is atleast 20k HP less than everyone else on the team and the paragon RANK is going to play a big factor as well. For example if you have a rank 5 Paragon this is NOT going to work =)
Lowest HP by 20k difference is usually the target. You'll notice that he places unkillable on the renegade later in the run because her HP drops a lot.
i had to tweek a lot of little things to get mine to work. paragon should be i think over 153 speed (very little hp compared to others) and in the lead position. I also needed to cap out my 2 coldheart accuracy (over 235). I have a well built fast cold heart.. so i noticed i can get her to take 2 turns before renegade.. so after the renegade reset.. the slow cold heart needs to wait another turn.. so putting the second cold heart in the 2nd slot of the team automatically makes paragon give unkillable to himself first, then my slow cold heart gets unkillable next. I didn't book Paragon, and in my case it works better this way. I might need to give more of them.. the mastery that lets your a1 take some of their turn meter.. just to take away any room for error. My slow Coldheart is a wonderful tank after paragon dies. For this reason, i want to keep her at 5 star (more likely they'll attack her).
This works with 1 coldheart at 60 and 1 at 50 as well. My first coldheart hits that 753k cap, and the 2nd one hits around 555k. Just in case folks are waiting to max their 2nd coldheart :)
Thanks Ash and Smiley, I am trying to beat spider 24 and the spiderlings keep attacking my 6* level 50 CH and not attacking Paragon,what can I do to fix rhis?
I tried this with no gear like u are saying and it doesn't work since the spiderlings always kill ur people before u can even place the unkillable so how is his paragon so fast it also didn't work on spider 20
I don't have all these champs but my broken spider 24 team is Lyssandra, Brogni, Scyl, MM, and Dreng. Dreng needs to be fully booked, so does Scyl and Frankie. As long as Lyssandra has her A2 and A3 booked she's good. I run it in 2 minutes or less with this team. Just pull Kravalax today so who knows, him in Bolster gear may put him in 1 of my squads too. As long as you keep Lyssandra alive with plenty of shields, and Brogni steady with the block debuffs it is easy peasy. What are you, the reader running? Try this out if you have the champs. Shit works
Once my Renegade does her thing, that 30% hp reduction from it makes her the sudden target from the spiders and is easily taken out. I cant get past level 22 with this strat unfortunately ...
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I don’t have Mordecai😢
@@bruceblack9975 Go for Akoth if you've been doing normal doom tower
only 1 coldheart and 1 mordecai on ftp anyone able to replace others?
@@MrXBOCAX need campions for that to
@ASH i made this comp exactly the same way the only difference with mine is i used walking dreng instead of mordicai because i don't have mordicai, i done around the same speeds as smileys comp mine goes like this : paragon puts unkillable on himself then coldheart fires off heartseeker dreng places burn coldheart with the second heartseeker renegade after that to reset the skills but then instead of the spiders attacking my paragon with unkillable they start attacking my coldhearts? i made sure he (paragon) has the lowest hp in the team i'm kinda lost idk how to fix the problem CAN ANYBODY PLEASE HELP ME OUT I REALLY NEED GUIDANCE
Team Stats
paragon 17khp 196 speed
coldheart 32k hp 184 speed
coldheart 38k hp 172 speed
dreng 72k hp 183 speed
renegade 48k hp 160 speed
Ash!!! Thanks for taking the time to collab with me. I had a great time =)
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Thanks bro! This really helped! Keep up the good work!
thanks so much Smiley!! I just went from spider 22 to 25. awesome!!!! 😁
How about helping me with mine lol I have renegade sicia mordecai and a maneater and a ch so mite be able to copy this :)
Thanks for joining me Smiley! Was great having you on
Hi,
I would like to say thank you for that video. I used to do the spider 20 because of a lack of motivation. Then, a clanmate shared your video.
Now I can farm the spider 25 in about 50sec.
I just made one modification : I replaced Parangon by Ultimate Death Knight en stone skin set. So, no matter if the little spiders focus someone else, he will always take the hit.
Have a nice day :)
Love this colab! Just made this team with a Walking Tomb Dreng. 30 Paragon, 40 Renegade, 50 Dreng, 2x 60 Coldheart. Followed your speeds and i'm getting 100% win rate at 31-34 seconds per run. You guys are killing it!
Even at 300 acc coldhearts smts miss and spider heal back so no
Smiley is a great content creator. He takes a ton of time and analyzes pack value too, which is super helpful if you're debating a purchase.
I really appreciate the love and kind words =)
It was great having him on!
@@SmileyTK3 you are awesome. I loved watching you in this past CC battle. 398 speed Blind Seer like really lol
Spider: exists
Smiley: I must break you.
Thanks to one of Smiley's videos (I once called him the Spider Whisperer), I found the comp that works for me: Coldheart@60, Achak @50, Mordecai@50, Coldheart #2 @50, Renegade. 32 second average.
Thanks again Smiley! and ASH!
LOL much love =)
may i know the speed of each champ ? thx
@@andriiyr4986 I made a video clip of my run, stats and builds for you:
ua-cam.com/video/DyKwkVa9jYU/v-deo.html
Glad you liked the collab
@@ASH-RAID As Always!
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Thank you guys so much! I've been farming spider 25 at 2-2.5 mins since it came out . Now I'm doing 50 seconds since I'm on on mobile can't do unlimited fps, and ch crit dmg only at 180 silver farming just became easy :)
So I just built this with: Paragon(30) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended - Walking Tomb Dreng(50) No Books / No Ascension- 2x Coldheart(60) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended - Prince Kymar(60) Fully Booked / Fully Ascended. I can't do Spider 25 cause Dreng is negative affinity but I can farm Spider 24 in under 1 min consistently with so far a 100% success rate. Prior to this I was stuck on Spider 20. Thank you for posting this video!
Shoutout to your editor Ash, he's half the reason these vids are so great xD that Mr Bean cut killed me!
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yea im with that, Ash got the funniest raid cuts by far
Holy next level of thinking going on here Batman. Totally beyond my abilities to find but once the lights are on....wow, deliberately NOT building to take advantage of directing attackers during turn strikes. and to manipulate the AI!!! So simple it is exotic!!! Salute sir. So far outside the box Plarium can't even see it anymore. WITH MOSTLY FREAKING RARES!!!!!!!! Impressed isn't near a good enough word. Maybe ...ummmm.... Bravo Maestro or something on those lines.
I've tried this manual on stage 20 (no renegade, but a max Armiger) , and yet the spiderlings seem to want to target my other champs even with UK on paragon, specifically one of my 2 coldhearts (one still at 50 atm), but she still has way more HP than my paragon. I've seen it said cause of being also void, but yet that's not what I see in this video. I'm very confused.
I have had this problem. For some stages after 20 it did this. just play around with the HP and you should be fine. It could be speed too.
holy sht... this is so smart... all this time I'm struggling finding a decent spider tank to help my team survive... and all it needs are 1 lvl 30 paragon??? XD... my helicath are doing a fantastic job but his counterattack just takes so long
I’m sorry but this is old news
@@drgreene1886 not for me... been looking for a decent tank for spider now, so it's a big help actually :D
@@cjhaedaten8711 then my advice is to get on Reddit or discord cause one roster uploaded pic from you would’ve got this solved long long time ago
i was havin the same issue Cjha! This vid is going to take me far 😌
as long as you only need a 30 paragon, just take a look at CH's crit dmg.
Love to see Smiley on your Channel ! I dont watch every Video of him but i just Love his Voice and his vibes! You two match perfect 💯
Thank you for the kind words ❤
Thanks for watching!
Thank you both for this team! Had to regear my CH's to get their crit dmg high enough to make this work. Now it's running 100% at 45-50 seconds a run.
Just got a version of this team running. I use Artak for the HP burn. I had to take his HP% gauntlets off to drop his HP enough that he doesn't kill the spiderlings. One of my Coldhearts isn't fully booked, so has a 4 turn cool down on heart seeker. Crit Damage is around 220 on each one. I use Artak's burn activation to speed up the run. A3, A2, reset, A3 and its done. Getting 40 sec runs on my phone (best is 37 sec)...
Artak has 202 speed. One CH has 204 speed, the other 198. Renegade has 95 speed. Paragon has 153 speed.
Such a great comp. Thnx guys. 1 was farming spider 20 to save time , but now with kymer, 2 cold hearts , paragon and teumesia i am able to do bellow 40 sec runs and 100% win ratio. Silver farming is great for me now.
I dont have a renegade... would pain keeper work?
You can use Hatchet Slinger (not ascended) or Gnarlhorn to tank the spiders.
I dont have a ch... Is there any posibility for me on spider 20 or so with like royal guard or someone else?
I made essentially the same team but with Ultimate Death Knight in stoneskin as slow as possible. Accomplishes the same thing. The extra figuring and tuning here will definitely help me improve my efficiency
Just tried building this but my paragon was too slow and got killed by the spiders before he got his turn. Make sure Paragon has enough speed that he gets his turn before the spiderlings do. In the video his speed was 153.
if i read your message, i coulda saved one run of energy
I just wish I'd seen this video before I upgraded Paragon to level 60. Now he's useless (HP too high, even without artifacts). I guess I'll just have to wait until I pull him again. Great collaboration there, thanks!
That is insane! I have had such a terrible time with Spider. It has even cost me a couple of fusions and now I see this? Oh, man. I am so thrilled right now! Thank You Smiley!
No problem =)
Getting back into the game and getting caught up on stuff from the last year and this guide was clutch! Much appreciated.
Would Teumesia work instead of Mordecai?
I believe if you're having problems with the spider targeting paragon, you have to make sure your other champs are the same or anti affinity of the spider
trouble is getting there, sadly im not having any luck with this right now
@@wisper2me just go to a spider where that is the case
I literally built this team as I was watching this video, and beat Spider 25 for the first time ever, 42 sec. Thank You Ash and Smiley.
i cant get it to work, paragon half HP than any other champ. dont know whats wrong
@@MickeNyberg Make sure everyone else on the team has atleast a difference of 20k HP from the paragon. The Paragon rank could also play a factor, but let me know how that goes for you!
I'm glad it worked out for you =)
Thanks for Vid--just made my team ---Draco-dec def, Miscreated Monster, Mordecai, Coldheart , level 30 Renegade. Speeds 170-180.
Does 40 seconds 100%.
Thanks to smiley I got a 10 second spider farm with two sicias and a teumesia. Great work
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This has been a HUGE help. My current Spider was about 90%. set this up on both my accounts and now running this at 100%
Any valid replacemant for second Coldheart?
This team is insane, insane... considering the champions involved and the damage done, it's insane how hard this team can carry with so little gear and very few ultra-rare champions.
Insane work!
Saved this video. Got to have this. My current team isn’t a 100 on 25, it also takes like 3 mins. This is perfect for the low spender now free to play player I am
Awesome! Love to hear the video is helpful
I couldn't follow, what does Renegade bring to the team? Are they just a void space filler?
She's one of the only 2-3 champs in the game has a skill cool down reduction for the team enabling other champs to reuse their abilities again
@@SmileyTK3 cool thanks that makes sense.
Great content still kind of new to your stuff quality work ! Maybe because this video was old, but for me, the spiral link keeps swapping off of paragon and everybody else is almost triple the hip points of him, did they change things aground now?
Appreciate this a lot. Was stuck on stage 18, but this comp helped me reach stage 21 spider. I die once or twice out of 10 times on that, but am comfortably farming stage 20 100%. Only difference is using Geomancer instead of a 2nd CH since I dont have 2.
Same thing works with lvl 30 Gnarlhorn...great help for players that think they don't have champs for higher stages and just give up without trying
Gnarlhorn has 1 turn when he isn't unkillable. Paragon can be unkillable all the time.
@@CS-zn6pp yes, and then Renegade resets his cooldowns...with burn dmg and CHs it's enough to kill the spider
This is amazing, I've been farming spider 20 until this..... One I realised to book mordecai shot up go to spider 25, first piece at 24 a lev 6 leg piece. Ash thanks for hosting Smiley, a great content creator. Smiley, love your work, this is amazing, can't wait for your gold pull
Do these champs have the mastery that decreases turn meter?
The Coldhearts have "Evil Eye" Mastery that decreased the turn meter upon first default hit. The rest of the 3 champs do not have any mastery at all
@@SmileyTK3 Cool Thanks, I was wondering why it wasn't working for me
I was finally able to beat Spider 25 consistently, thanks to both!!
Awsome collab! Love the team i have the champions so i will get to work, cause my best time is spider 25 is 1:33 minute. Hopefully i can bring it down to 36 seconds.
Great Video!
I had some issues with targeting & figured out I needed to have my Renegade not use her A2 until her 2nd turn so that she doesn't sacrifice health right away.
wow....i never comment even though i see all your videos Ash. This comp....bro i was struggling so much tried everything, even this, but my tuning was non existent. Didnt think speed tuning would make such difference! Thanks guys....! This works with my bad gear as well ! 40sec average.
30sec
What about if u do not have the 2 cold hearts and mildaki. What other champions can u use for this
hey ash i have a mardecai but i allso have my tyrant lxmor wont he work the same for this comp ?
Great vid. “I have all these champions in some gear but haven’t cleared spider 25” Set team. Turn off Coldhearts A2s. 43 sec on my phone.
Thank you Ash and Smiley!! I needed this so bad!
I'm glad you enjoyed it =)
9:53 lol Ash is crazy
Any other replacements for renegade?
I've been running this team since this video and for 20 I used Akoth. Something changed in Raid and the spider-lings now kill off one of my Coldhearts and Renegade first. I think you might need to get their HP up over 40K. As one of my cold-hearts is over 40K and after they kill the other two they go for Paragon before that Coldheart.
I know this video is kind of old but it helped me a lot! Been stuck for a while and I've been playing a long time . Working on a second cold heart but using Deacon for now. And using artak. 7/10 win rate but I see light at the end of the tunnel! 😅
is there a replacment for paragon? I have all the champs minus paragon and mordici. Probably will get mordici before paragon
After watching this video I re-arranged my team, I didn't have Paragon, so I used Gnarlhorn instead was getting pretty consistent 45 sec runs, pulled Paragon during the x10 Cardiel, just did a run in 29 seconds. 2 Coldhearts ~ 1 @ 50, other at 60, Sicia, and Prince Kymar. Also switched to Unlimited Frame Rate, not running RSL helper atm since it needs to be updated, perhaps that sped up my run? Anyway Ty Ash, and Smiley :)
Somehow I have two coldhearts and a mordicai but I haven't pulled the two crap rares. Any replacement for the paragon and renegade?
Funny enough, I've been running this exact same team just instead of Paragon I use Gurgoh to aoe freeze the spiderlings
quick note regarding this team: it doesn't work if renegade has a shield set. paragon will place his unkillable on renegade instead if she does.
Great point!
Is there another champion you can use if you cannot or do not have coldheart?
Great content! This is amazing to share with friends who don't have the OP champs. Thanks fellas!
to be honest, this is a pretty "OP" team. Mostly elusive void champions and an epic that's equally elusive. They just aren't leveled up and in crazy gear.
I just made this team. I don’t have mordecai I replaced it with ignatius but the results are the same. It’s way faster than my old team. Thx smiley for the team.
no problem =)
Would this work one spider 18
incredible, I've been stuck on spider 22, now I just beat spider 22, 23, 24 and 25. thanks so much!!!
Thank you! Current 25 team is inconsistent. Worked with my Sicia build, hopefully more consistent! Great idea and video!
Hey Ash! Love your videos, been very informative since I began RAID a few months ago... I was wondering, I built a team like this, or at least wanted the strategy of giving 'unkillable' to my lowest health guy and made a build for the champion Taurus to be in place of Paragon (in the video). With Taurus' ascended A3, he goes down to 1 hp and gets Unkillable for 2 turns, but all the spiderlings keep going for my ColdHearts after I pull this off. Is there something I'm missing that makes Taurus ineligible for this role? Thanks!
This is awesome. Have just rebuilt my spider 25 team, now running at 50 seconds. Thanks guys.
I'm glad it worked out for you =)
Sometimes Coldhearts on the second Heartseeker focus a spiderling, what can i do im really confused...
I have everyone on your team that you mentioned except for Paragon & Renegade, so until I summon them, is there any other fighter’s I can substitute Paragon & Renegade with in-order to still get past the Spider Level?? 🤔
can you run akoth instead of Mordecai?
YES
Was just thinking about this team. I already use Artak in my spider 20 team with a lvl 30 paragon lead and double Armiger. I have the two CH and Renegade and was thinking if I could halve my spider runs... Looks like question answered. Just got to build a second CH now.
I would say the barrier for entry is the Paragon. I happen to have 1 Coldheart, full book and Mastery. I started coming up with possible replacements throughout the video. No Paragon. Honestly, he's a real thorn in my side. I don't know of anyone else with that Unkillable skill timed out like that. It makes a lot of stupid combos work.
Now, before anyone pops up with Swift Parry set, or w/e, note that the effect from that has a CD.
Another one for the "Maybe Someday" list.
I have a Paragon… but no CHs… how do people have two?
@@RuoninT RNG
My point above was that the 2nd Coldheart could find a substitution, but Paragon is unique in his ability to keep Unkillable up all the time. Best anyone else can do is allow a 1 turn CD between casting and the end of the ability.
old news but, hey still fantastic news! just got my Pseudo cheese team operational. don't have 2 coldhearts so, I swapped in a Fayne. Seems good ;)
I built this team and am getting regular ~45 second runs. Awesome!
Note that's in Bluestacks. On Plarium Play, it's more like 35 seconds.
I'm glad it worked out for you =)
Would a gnarl horn be a good stand in for paragon?
I'm trying to recreate this team and I try to follow it the best I can. My Renegade and Mordecai are level 40 and 50 respectively and my Paragon still level 30 but I just can't seem to keep the threat only on Paragon! The spiderlings target modecai or a cold heart usually instead of renegade and then it's lights out! Help!
same thing for me
I guess watching video closer that's what Paragon does but yeah I can't get the balance
You want to make sure the Paragon is atleast 20k HP less than everyone else on the team and the paragon RANK is going to play a big factor as well. For example if you have a rank 5 Paragon this is NOT going to work =)
@@SmileyTK3 thanks for the response! I'll have to take another look and see what his HP is at!
@@SmileyTK3 the team work fine now thanks
Paragon grants unkillability to another hero. Do you know what affects who the unkillable places on?
Lowest HP by 20k difference is usually the target. You'll notice that he places unkillable on the renegade later in the run because her HP drops a lot.
Just wondering why Renegade is not in the lead spot activating the team buff?
Thanks so much guys! I think this is the first video team I've ever been able to get working!!! My best time is 33 seconds.
i had to tweek a lot of little things to get mine to work. paragon should be i think over 153 speed (very little hp compared to others) and in the lead position. I also needed to cap out my 2 coldheart accuracy (over 235). I have a well built fast cold heart.. so i noticed i can get her to take 2 turns before renegade.. so after the renegade reset.. the slow cold heart needs to wait another turn.. so putting the second cold heart in the 2nd slot of the team automatically makes paragon give unkillable to himself first, then my slow cold heart gets unkillable next. I didn't book Paragon, and in my case it works better this way. I might need to give more of them.. the mastery that lets your a1 take some of their turn meter.. just to take away any room for error.
My slow Coldheart is a wonderful tank after paragon dies. For this reason, i want to keep her at 5 star (more likely they'll attack her).
if I don't have Mordecai can I use Galik instead or someone diff ?
can use gnarlhorn or Hatchet Slinger in place of pragon and soulbound bowyer can replace coldheart gnarlhorn is a underrated rare.
Can you use painkeeper?
Thanks!
Seriously I’ve been stuck on Spider FOR EVER..!!!!! lol thank you
Would this work for spider hard?
Looks good, but can the 2nd CH be replaced with Lua?
This works with 1 coldheart at 60 and 1 at 50 as well. My first coldheart hits that 753k cap, and the 2nd one hits around 555k. Just in case folks are waiting to max their 2nd coldheart :)
I think I have all the components for this comp ready to go. Thank you so much!
Nice!!!
Thanks Ash and Smiley, I am trying to beat spider 24 and the spiderlings keep attacking my 6* level 50 CH and not attacking Paragon,what can I do to fix rhis?
Haha, that’s awesome, I love it! I just started building a second Cold Heart and will definitely have to try this out! Great vid guys!
Thanks for doing to collab video. Great spider comp!
This helped me down 21-25 to unlock Hard Mode. Cheers :)
I tried this with no gear like u are saying and it doesn't work since the spiderlings always kill ur people before u can even place the unkillable so how is his paragon so fast it also didn't work on spider 20
Obviously you need to put gear on them so they reach certain speeds...
This is insanity .. going to rewatch this about 10 more times to take notes then finally progress to and then dominate spider 25
Can this team be use from Lvl 20 to 25?? or only 24 and 25???
i got the comp but with ninja but my coldheart keep getting targeted...anyonw know why>?
Any chance we can get revamp on this strategy? People state it's still doable, but 50% hp paragon is no longer sufficient it seems (at least for S20).
Does it work at spider 20?
I don't have all these champs but my broken spider 24 team is Lyssandra, Brogni, Scyl, MM, and Dreng. Dreng needs to be fully booked, so does Scyl and Frankie. As long as Lyssandra has her A2 and A3 booked she's good. I run it in 2 minutes or less with this team. Just pull Kravalax today so who knows, him in Bolster gear may put him in 1 of my squads too. As long as you keep Lyssandra alive with plenty of shields, and Brogni steady with the block debuffs it is easy peasy. What are you, the reader running? Try this out if you have the champs. Shit works
Your edits get me everytime. Rad video
Once my Renegade does her thing, that 30% hp reduction from it makes her the sudden target from the spiders and is easily taken out. I cant get past level 22 with this strat unfortunately ...
I was stuck on spider 15. But after watching this i cleared spider 22 easily! Really happy, thank you so much.
No way that’s insane! Nice bro nice 👍
Can mord be replaced by Dreng? I haven’t pulled a morde yet