Seven Ages of Wargaming
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
- There are seven ages of wargaming, most of which can be applied to any tabletop wargamer, especially if they have been in the hobby for a long time. Some of these ‘ages’ may not apply to everyone (yet), and for a few people some of the steps may be in a different order, but I think it's a reasonable categorisation of a typical wargaming career.
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Hey Lee, in the end I’ll get my family to place me on top of all of it (Viking style) and torch it all! I think the rule books will get the heat up lol!
Then I’ll see you all in wargaming Valhalla!!😉👍
Went through the firing matches and marbles stage early on. Progressed to rolling 2d6 per figure for movement or firing before finding Featherstone, Wise and particularly Grant. Aged 9, Battle Practical Wargaming was a revelation. WW2, Traveller and D&D competed till late 20s before I attended Claymore in Edinburgh and found properly painted figures WRG 6th and DBA. 'Proper' wargaming for 30+ years till I am now hankering for the simple to play but hard to master rules and getting round to thinning out the collection. Not so much 7 Ages, but a hell of a journey!
Green army soldiers is how I started, I used to play with them in the mud and make paratroopers with soldiers attached to shopping bags out of the toilet window.
Lol. I have a couple of parachutists with plastic parachutes that I threw out the bedroom window and run down to the garden and attempt to beat them to the ground. Even when my legs were young, I never did 🤣
of course, not forgetting the use of fireworks for explosions
So true. I am still, myself, in the firing matches, panel pins, nails, marbles and ball bearings stage. With good behaviour, I expect to be released in about 2036.
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Hey Big Lee! Well... this topic hit close to home! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! God Help Me... but I've gone through most of your Ages! Joe Morchauser & his book was a real eye opener for me, back in the day, on this side of the pond. Then later came Featherstone, Grant & Son, Bath, & Asquith... and I NEVER looked back. I was well & truly hooked! (And my kids are too!)
Through bitter experience (And I have the physical, mental, & emotional scars to prove it!)... I have learned that a Quick Reference Index to the rules that are being used is worth its weight in gold and keeps the game moving along! What a ride it has been... but I wouldn't change a thing! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
Sometimes my family think I'm mad when I suggest that I have the greatest hobby on the planet. I've met some brilliant people, played amazing games, and had an opportunity to visit some incredible places all because of my hobby.
@@MiniatureAdventuresTV Amen to that! Like most things in Life... you either get it... or you don't. There is not much of a Third Option!
Hello Lee, I'm a relatively new subscriber. Just wanted to say, a great channel. I have watched most of your content now. A thought for a future video...Wargames Campaigns. Best wishes, Graham
This made me laugh, how true, as a kid I got Britain's figures, eyes right, then as a teenager ,started with a mate playing wargames,using Airfix, and Rose miniatures , Donald Featherstone then appeared ,and rules were used. Then a lull, like you but I did put up a small loft table, later I met some new mates and bought loads of stuff ,many Front Rank napoleonics, seven years war. Then finally Bolt Action appeared ,during Covid, I dabbled in model railways . Today at 72, I am back painting Napoleonic figures ,with a new group of friends ,eyesight not so good , but results reasonable Once hooked ,it never leaves you, thanks for a trip down memory lane
Hi Lee; I can relate to most of these, but have never got to the 'butterfly' stage - always was too methodical, even as a kid. I was always interested in the Airfix Figs, & was introduced to the hobby via the local club; the rest is history. Like many in the 70s, I got into D&D, which worked as a 'parallel universe' to my wargaming. The D&D eventually lost out though after about 20 yrs, as that group slowly 'grew up' & moved on to other things.
I grew up on the stalwarts of Featherstone, Grant, Wise, & a few others - halcyon days in wargames literature being published. I still have my first Airfix figs & have stuck with that unfashionable scale throughout; now my 1:72 armies number in the thousands (many gamers will grudgingly admit to still having some of this stuff somewhere in their collection) - I have never regretted this decision.
I now consider myself as a hardened Grognard (after gaming for over 50 yrs), who is still enjoying his 'Glory Days' & long may it last!
I started out in the mid 90s with my best friend setting up 1/72nd IMEX miniatures in formations and would toss foil balls up into the air and if a figure fell over they were dead and if they moved about they were wounded. Was rudimentary at best but was fun! I didn't know about miniature wargaming until I was 24. I have had a lot of dead ends and stops in miniatures to the point that now I just paint miniatures for my own pleasure and solo play. I do that because there isn't many around here that play historical games and those that do I honestly don't care to hang around. Three years ago I got introduced to hex and counter wargaming and now that is my primary gaming method. As far as rules go I only have three historical wargames rules and that is Volley and Bayonet, Fire and Fury 1E and Command Decision Test of Battle. When I plan to get to miniatures for classical antiquity I will be converting GMT's Great Battles of History rules to miniature form.
I feel seen with the comment about Sci-Fi wargamers. Thank you.
Well, at my age I just skipped to number 7, 6:35 "Entropy years" is exactly as you described-- just spoke to an old friend for first time in years, and this was his lead concern on what to do with it all :)
Nice one Lee, always enjoy your thought/memory provoking content. I can definitely relate to those phases in a Wargamers life! Cheers Mate👍
I came into miniatures from a cardboard wargaming background. Played some miniatures on and off for a decade before I bought any of my own. Being a butterfly 🦋 for me has been a result of having a good regional historical miniatures convention (all "participation games" because in the USA), having various groups that I've played with over the years, and being willing to play with others' periods and projects.
Now trying to focus on my own projects, but it's difficult unless someone else in the region shares my interest. Currently painting for War of Spanish Succession 28mm and planning my next Pulp Alley game in 28mm. Hosting my friend's big Peloponnesian War skirmish in 28mm at my house today, though that's not one of my periods.
Being able to bring a collection to a friend's house and thereby get to play a variety of games even if you don't have a club nearby is a great idea. Is one of the reasons why I enjoy being part of Posties Rejects. I couldn't possibly collect and paint all of the different periods I've had a chance to play with that most excellent group of gentleman.
Very accurate representation of my career. I started with Timpo and Brittans soldiers fighting over the rocks in the garden.
When I started we had traffic signs (round ones) filled with fine sand plus soem rocks and plants and put a box of plastic 1/72 (WW2) soldiers and aftera while the occational vehicle each down into that terrain. My dad had been working in printing and we went around getting metal from them casting our own toy soliders at home my brother and me next (and our friends).
Later in school we played roleplaying games, boardgames etc. As soon as my brotehrs sons started school we fell right down that hole again :)
Played so much the last ten years, almost as much as when I was 15....
I've come to realise that indulging in wargaming's many genres and periods is no bad thing. The term butterfly does make it sound fleeting and, in some ways, not a serious, in depth choice. One of the reasons is an interest in military history stretching from early civilisations to WW2 (I'm a child of the sixties when history was a broad subject and included British history and its deeds). And having been in the hobby 40+ years staying in one tiny portion of that wouldn't satisfy my wargaming 'itch'. I have seen some who stay gaming ancients, though that is a very long all encompassing period to wargame, the longest I'm sure you would agree which stretches over 2K years. And TV and films have broadened interests to fantasy and sci-fi which, obviously, means wargaming them!
Gaming in a number of periods doesn't class as 'butterfly'; it's when you get bored & flog off the stuff, constantly trying to find something to satisfy, is how I class 'butterflies'
@@roymartin8507 Doesn't it depend on continuity of play, and not once or twice and boxed away?
@@sumerandaccad As long as you keep coming back to it - otherwise yes
Lovely building Lee. Great video update
Definitely recognise these stages. Didn't Shakespeare notice much the same thing? My games were certainly revitalised by discovering new rule sets in the last 10 years, especially the Lardies rules. Haven't reached stage 7 yet so not sure about the giving-away phase. Maybe we should go back to the old practice of adding goods to graves, to entertain future archaeologists.
Good summary. I can only agree and hope that the final phase is still a long time away.😬
I'm clearly in the "Old Grognard" stage!!
Great video, you are so right!
Thanks for watching!
I feel like I'm experiencing all but the first and last stages at the same time.
I think I emerged from the chrysalis but didn't get any further than that. I have more projects than you can shake a stick at.
My a put forward a side bar . The wargamer who becomes a reenactor . My first reenactment group was nearly all wargames . That was how I meet them at the gaming club. Not everyone will go that way but some will 😂 .
I'd always wanted to do reenactment but I never had the money... Now I doubt if my knees could even contemplate marching up and down let alone running 🤣... Maybe I could dress up as a home guard.
Hi from Hannover , i am a wargaming with to many projects and i always want more soliders 😂
I don't think I know a single gamer who has 'spare' space for more models.... Not that that stops any of us 😆
Question: If you're a buddhist, can you bury your stuff and come back to get it later with a new character?
I like that idea... A time capsule containing my armies for recovery in my next incarnation 😁
Wish my friends would move past the only 40K age of wargaming lol.
As I found in my early days if you're the only one in the group that wants to play historicals you either have to wait your time, or place solo.
It's a hard road to be the 'Lone voice in the wilderness'; but persistence usually pays off. Historical & Fantasy are not necessarily exclusive & can co-exist (sort of) ... keep plugging away at them 😄
Seems a very familiar timeline, not yet ht the last 2 stages but beginning to think about what is best to do with my armies and terrain. Having reacted badly to some vaccinations i found i had a bit of time and have also been putting together an index, this is for Dragon Rampant. My first game will be Wednesday so I'm hoping it will come in handy.
This is spot on about the 7 ages.. plastic army men in the garden when I was a kid (and my dad cursing.. those old airfix bren gun commandos used to fly at a hell of a speed when hit by the lawnmower!), Airfix WW2 rules and on through the ages. I’m not on the entropy phase yet, but I have in recent years trimmed my scales, I’m now exclusively 6mm and smaller (but scifi and historical, sold my other stuff to buy more 6mm! So not really downsizing). I think I’m mostly a Grognard
Good to hear that you're playing six mil. I do enjoy it other scales but 6 ml is definitely my favourite.
@@MiniatureAdventuresTV Storage is always a problem as is cost, 6mm addresses both these and there’s nothing like a really big 6mm battle when there really are hundreds of tanks or miniatures. Besides I can’t paint bigger scales worth a damn but my 6mm looks great!
Great video Lee
Thank you. Very much appreciated
Collecting rules sets is like 90% of my hobby...
Slug Industries? A link would be great; I’m working on some 6mm buildings and I don’t think I’ve run acorss them.
Here's the Facebook page m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063494261152
@@MiniatureAdventuresTV Thanks!
@@MiniatureAdventuresTV Now that I’ve looked at that, I see that I *have* seen these before; they are in the catalog of the Microworld website. Great looking buildings, and I really like your paint job on the forge.
I started off agreeing with stages 1,2 and 3, but missed the middle section, as I suddenly had to go to the 🚻.
Got back to realise I'm at stage 6..should have realised at the toilet interlude....😅...