Superman Returns - First Viewing
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2020
- Having only seen the film once, Doug and Rob revisit the 2006 reboot that never rebooted anything. Let's see if they like Superman Returns any better after all these years.
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Be honest, you slept during Superman Returns
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HEY I stayed awake. . . course I was a kid and this was my first Superman movie. also, I didn't see anything in that underwater scene.
Now yes.. back then.. no!
I had plenty of coffee during this
I was feeling bored during the movie, but didn't fall asleep. And it was during the middle and even when Superman saves Lois, her son and his fiance from drowning and when Luthor fought Superman on the island. But I did remembering hearing my mother gasp when Luthor gave Superman the "final punch" when we saw the movie in IMAX.
Anyone wanna hear what movie I'd like to see Doug review and react to?
I hope this experience hasn't put either of you off reviewing. Statistically speaking, it's still the safest way to UA-cam.
Statistically, this comment should have a bunch of likes
@@akufromthefuture7159 "Destroy the comments!"
"First, I have fun."
Yea, I'm half expecting them to start posting bollywood music videos instead.
What experience? Apparently I'm a bit out of the loop...
@@akufromthefuture7159 FOOOOL
That’s the positive of this movie. It gave us Brandon Routh’s Superman in the Arrowverse.
And Atom.
who they fired
The crisis on infinite earth scene was glorious
Actual evil superman destroyed less buildings than man of steel hero superman
Kingdom Come Superman in the Arrowverse proves that Routh can be a great Superman. He fucking nails it there. It actually made me feel a bit sorry for Tyler Hoechlin's Superman because Routh totally outshines him in every scene they're in. Routh just had really bad material to work with in Superman Returns.
Rob: "I didn't know Malcolm was going to watch Superman Returns with us."
Doug: "He's not watching the movie."
*Malcolm* 8) This is what heroes do.
An early script even had Lex reveal to a weakened Superman that he had one of his henchmen send false signals to set Superman up into space. Thus, making a completely defeated Superman realize he left Earth (left Lois) for nothing.
Avery Merrick That's still dumb tbh
I believe that is still mentioned in the novelisation. Like a third of the novelisation is actually set on Krypton too, which is almost entirely cut out from the film.
Half-Life Scientist how? It gets Superman out of his nonexistent hair and let’s him do what he wants while Superman is gone
That makes a little bit more sense
That's not an early script that's the plot of the film for Lexus character that bit was cut out for time but it still Canon the video game proves this
Poor James Marsden, he ends up in a lot of movies where his girlfriend is into another guy... and we're suppose to be happy about it.
Except for sonic. Unless the original script sonic took his girl
At least in Enchanted he got to steal the other guy's girl right back.
In 27 Dresses he actually ends up with the leading lady
Nice guys finish last?
- Confirmed -
Honestly, I would've liked it if _James Marsden was Superman_ in this, he seemed _a lot more_ dedicated to saving people than Superman did. Plus, he has the dark hair, blue eyes, dazzlingly endearing smile, and nice-boy-scout charm. I feel like all he needs is the suit and muscles.
Someone should of told Doug and Rob that routh came back as superman in the arrowverse shows this past January.
And he referenced Superman 3 where he got drunk and fought himself
Kills me that Kevin Spacey is IMO the best on-screen Luthor we've ever gotten, and the scene with his experimenting with the kryptonite is the closest we ever got to the evil megalomaniacal mastermind he is, even if only briefly....and now we'll never get that again, cuz...
We'll, we've got a new one coming in Superman and Lois. Let's see how he does
In the end, Lex's plan was just to prison shiv superman, he created an island just to stab superman in the kidney with an improvised weapon.
A joke, but he really would do that. He's that petty and that totally unconcerned with the cost. Time, money, lives. No expense is too great if it hurts Superman.
And then just casually throws him off a cliff, OFF OF THE KRYPTONITE INFUSED ISLAND rather than making sure he wouldn't get back up again.
“Simplicity is deceptively complicated!”
"That's right conspiracy buff. I spent 75 million dollars on a fake presidential campaign. All just to tick Superman off."
@@Raptor3k See my comment above. Quod Erat Demonstandum.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how great of a brother Rob is for watching these movies with Doug? He doesn’t have to, but he does.
Rob usually co-writes the reviews with Doug so they watch together to banter. A lot of their comments end up in the final review
We watches the movies with Doug so we don’t have to
Is that not normal to do with your sibling?
You know, for a guy who wants to get into the real estate business, you think a guy like Luther would use all that money to just buy land and develop it.
The song they’re playing on piano isn’t Chopsticks , it’s Heart And Soul. To be fair, both are cliche beginner piano pieces. The two songs you remember how to play even when you stop having lessons. Inside Out even made a joke about it:)
The joke works better just using Chopsticks. It doesn't fly over heads of people like yourself, but people like myself would have just listened & thought 'lol dad joke'.
I love that bit in the film it's cute And awesome and it works because it's AWESOME 😎
9:01 Aquaman is going to be pissed.
Speaking of Aquaman.
Fun fact: Brandon Routh and Jason Mamoa attended the same high school.
I LOVE brandon routh in this movie, after his cameo in the cw crisis on infinite earths he deserves his own superman series or another movie
Love how this is the second instance of the two appalled at there being 40 minutes left. This would be a great running gag.
The problem with both Brandon and Henry is they have the potential to be great as superman, but both have had real shity scripts.
Malcom's First Viewing.... of Doug and Rob.
At 9:17 I was already starting to giggle at the joke, but Doug bursting into a laughing fit made it 100 times funnier to me and I actually had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard and loud I kept missing things!
What was the joke? I couldn’t hear it well since Doug started laughing before Rob finished it
With as young as Brandon Routh and Kate Bosworth were, they should've just redone the origin. Yes, we all know it to death. It is modern mythology at this point. But there's no way in hell you could believe that these two lived through the events of the first two Christopher Reeve films (including the ending of the Superman II Donner cut) with as young as they looked and believably say that five years had passed. Also, Superman lifting an entire island made of Kryptonite into space. WTF?!
No everything you said was wrong
Routh and reeve were the same age when they played superman plus kryptonian age slower than hunans
Brandon Routh also played Ray Palmer in Legends of Tomorrow, until he left the show early this year.
I heard he was forced out.
WHAT THE HELL! I’M WATCHING THAT SHOW AND HE’S CONSISTENTLY MY FAVORITE PART!
I'm just staring at Doug's shirt the whole time.
Same. I'm trying to figure out what it says. It's a lot more interesting than Superman Returns.
@@amaravazquez8591 And to Felicia, the lord sayeth, "fare thee well."
So in other words. 🤔
😐 BYE FELICA
It seems like those are Disney and Marvel’s thoughts about Felicia Hardy in a Spider-Man movie since TAS2.
This movie was my childhood. It was the first Superman movie I saw in theaters, and as someone growing up with the Christopher Reeve films, was super excited when I saw the teaser for it on the Justice League: Unlimited bonus content.
"I love that he can see through anything. I'd have fun with that."
Cut to Jason running around with a box over his head.
Foreshadowing?
Fun fact: James Marsden played teenage Clark Kent in Superman TAS.
That was actually the similarly named but unrelated Jason Marsden.
Poor Cyclops. His girlfriend cheats on him in the alternate dimension too.
Rob came prepared to fight this movie. Pretty sure that shirt's made of kryptonite.
Sorry, kRRRRRRRyptonite
2:52 a Christian planet? Well that explains all the Jesus symbolism to come in the future
Future? Donner stuffed his films with so much Jesus symbolism he got death threads from "rEaL fAns" for apparently "destroying the Jewish integrity of the character".
How does Rob always have something witty and hilarious to say in these things after practically every scene? XD
"Maybe that guy who did Watchmen, he has a good sense of humor."
Actually got a real life laugh out of me at that one.
You know there's something I realized after watching this movie and Bryan Singer's Xmen movies: He's pretty much the anti-Sam Raimi. Sam Raimi always tries really hard to have a unique style with his movies. Everything from the setting to the characters and the ways they act, all are going all out. With Sam Raimi's Spiderman movies or Evil dead movies, he makes sure that they're unforgettable experiences. Bryan Singer represents everything people like Raimi and Guillermo Del Toro are against: Bland set design, Lack of colour contrast, Bland costume and character designs, blandly shot scenes, and a very dull production design overall. The reason why Usual Suspects worked and his comic book films didn't is because Usually Suspects took place in the real world with no supernatural or cosmic elements. It was a story grounded in reality, so Bryan Singer could show off the world and it's interesting because of the concept of the film and the characters. He didn't need any real kind of expert production design to convey what he wanted for the fil..These comic book films he's done require a lot of imagination, a lot of special effects, a lot of colour contrast for environments and characters, etc. And because Singer is so uncreative in visuals, these films look incredibly bland and because of that aren't really engaging. That's why Usual Suspects worked, and films like this didn't. Usual Suspects didn't need that much imaginative imagery. Xmen and Superman do, and Singer is not good at that at all. Honestly I'm glad that Singer's sexual harassment shit has gotten him blacklisted , cause it's clear that he's not only a shitty person but a shitty filmmaker as well. I hope that when the MCU does the Mutants film that they can get someone opposite of Singer to make that film and bring the mutants to the MCU properly. Maybe they can bring Mathew Vaughn back from Xmen First Class. Or maybe just have Raimi do it. I also hope to God that Man of Steel 2 (if it happens) ends up being really good aswell.
Singer’s a one-trick pony, yes. His directorial style just happened to mesh with what people generally wanted from an X-Men film in the 2000s.
I remember seeing this in theatres at 11 as a Superman fan, just being bored to death. That's a shame because I actually didn't mind Brandon Routh in the role.
I love Superman Returns. So many beautiful moments that really capture the essence of Kal-El. The son becomes the father, and the father becomes the son.
Given relative appearance of ages in this film, I'm guessing that Lois Lane had her kid when she was 14.
@Black Ninja 17, if you go by Kate Bosworth's age during filming (22). Clark left 5 years ago, so the kid has to be no older than 5, if that. The actor playing him was also 5.
Brandon Routh was 25 during the shoot, so he'd have impregnated Lois when he was 19 and she was 16. James Marsden was 31, so he'd have been 25 when he first started sleeping with Lois,and she was 16.
Goes from having a hard time stopping an airplane that was 20% capacity, to lifting a literal mountain filled with kryptonite into space.
7:05 Can we address that perfectly cut kid roaring noise? That was just perfect
I think there should be Superman Leaves, explaining why he left.
Kind of like when Numbuh 1 left to join Galactic at the end of Codename: Kids Next Door.
Except we never got the followup to THAT! Even with a teaser with the original voice cast! And I'd totally watch a movie where Superman leaves Earth, flies off into space and founds the Legion of Superheroes. (It's a comic in case you didn't know.)
It's like Batman sneaking off between Batman and Batman Returns. Where the hell you bin these last 3 years man?
I remember going to the midnight screening of this because I am a big Superman fan and walking out feeling like I just saw the most expensive fan film ever made. Singer just wanted to make a sequel to Superman 2, continuity be damned.
Didnt this movie have one of the most expensive deleted scenes ever with an entire cgi krypton scene cut
Whoa, super early! Thanks for still working and creating content for us, guys. I LOVE First Viewings! Please stay safe and healthy!
Every time I see the bullet fire at superman's eye, I instantly think about epic movie's version where the bullet actually works.
BANG!
Superman: oh my god you shot me in the bloody eye. That really hurts. Why would you do that!
Wow. I never thought I'd discover a unique human being in my life.
You watched Epic Movie, and actually made it through alive. I've heard that film has a higher body count than cancer.
Isaac Gleeth it's not a good film but the superman bit is gold
Clancy Brown was the BEST Luthor. That's just a Fact.
"Aren't you going to wash your hands?"
"No! Cuz I'm evil."
And the best Taskmaster!
@@dastvan8002 "If nothing else I can at least learn the Flash's secret identity......................I have no idea who this is."
Yes.
Michael Rosenbaum has entered the chat.
The ending with Superman promising never to leave Earth again, Lois and his son becomes absurdly devastating 13 years later, when this version of the character returns in the crossover of Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earths, and it is revealed that the Joker murdered Lois, Perry White. and Jimmy Olsen. It's even worse when you remember this is the same Superman from Christopher Reeve movies...
I think the Joker also killed the kid too.
5:17, he looks like a PS4 character!😂
To be fair, some PS4 games have had some very impressive looking character models.
6:35, that's still my eye!😂😂😂
I personally love this movie, I know it's not well regarded but this is the first superman movie I ever saw so its holds some nostalgia for me
I was around for the first Superman movie, and my grandmother was in an orchestra. They all played the Superman theme for us kids in one of their concerts. So I judge this one harshly, but I try to be fair.
X2
I remember watching Superman Returns with my dad. We were both adults by then. I grew up watching the Reeves films, the Superfriends, and that cool Superboy show. Enjoyed Lois and Clark for the most part. Frog clones not withstanding.
My dad, however, watched George Reeve. He read the silver age of Superman growing up. Jimmy Olsen comics, Legion of Superheroes, Lois Lane, Worlds Finest, Justice League. If Supes was in it? My dad read it.
He saw Superman in the theaters. Said Reeves did a great job. Was not happy at all with Gene Hackman.
Said the cartoon Lex by Clancy Brown came closest, but he didn’t love the businessman aspect for whatever reason.
Yet, when Kevin Spacy’s Luthor shanked Superman in the back, my dad clapped and said, “that’s how you do Lex Luthor!”
He loved this movie. I actually do too. Wish a sequel was made. I was very happy to Brendon Routh get the epilogue his performance deserves.
Like the opening credits, he may have been too amazing for this movie.
Even stupider about him going off to find Krypton, if Krypton were still there pieces of kryptonite wouldn't be on earth. Planets that don't blow up don't send pieces of themselves off into space! On top of this, he gets his power from the the sun and stars are light years apart which means he would have run out of power and died in space long before he got anywhere near Krytpon.
At least BvS actually explained where the Kryptonite came from.
Brandon Ruth redeemed the role in Crisis on Infinite Earths. He just needed a better script is all
That said this movie holds a place in my childhood so I’ll always enjoy it despite the problems
No matter the costume and the materials used, you just cannot beat Christopher Reeve. Just the perfect look. I was in Australia just after this was filmed and there were still Metropolis library signs still hanging from the buildings.
The creators of the film appear to have had it in mind that Superman was to be a Christian Allegory or at-least an all-around boy-scout. This is kind-of undermined by how he turns out to be the father of Lois' child meaning he either slept with her without her knowing he was Clark, or Jason was conceived in Superman II and he impregnated her during the night they spent together which he erased from her memory-along with everything else-at the end of the film.
*sigh of relief* I was worried they wouldn’t still do these
5:50 Injustice much?
6:05 Objectively best scene.
With Lex Luthor returning as the main antagonist, the technology advancement in movie special effects that time, the fact that this was meant to be the true epilogue to the Reeves Superman trilogy, and how many offscreen development they could do during the 5 years timeskip, I'm surprised they didn't play out Luthor's discovery of alien technology building up to a climax where Superman has to go against Luthor in his iconic Warsuit.
8:30, Spiderman says you only get one.😂😂😂
Say whatever you want about Man of Steel but at least it had the balls to take chances and be different while still keeping the core of who Superman is and what he represents
And i don't think it gets the core either. I mean by god one scene: he Is crying because he kill zod. Next scene: everything Is fine like happy ending. Next movie: he kills a guy without mercy, yeah they blame him for the burning victims but still he smash that guys body to sic rooms even though he had like millon non lethal ways to solve that. Oh and in the same movie: everyone hating then (including Batman ) for shit he hasn't did without clear proof, yet when he dies everybody loves him again. Fucking Shazam was a better Superman movie than any of them.
No, Cavill's Superman is definitely not representing the core of who Superman is. Brandon Routh portrayed the actual core of the character coming second to Christopher Reeve, he should still be Superman.
Agrim Bhalla He was Reeve Copy and paste. There’s was no chances taken in this movie. Hell, he didn’t even throw a punch. A Superman movie where Superman does NOT throw a punch ?? What type of shit is that
motor4X4kombat MoS was based around the idea of Superman in a modern world and how those in power would view him. That’s called subtext. Look it up. Also, Superman has killed in the comics before and in Superman II where he threw zod of a cliff in the fortress. Might wanna look that up too
@@RyanLBrown9396 Not to mention John Byrne's Superman #22 where he kills Zod leading to a long existential crisis arc where Superman is depressed and doubtful of himself. Which is exactly what Snyder adapted in BvS.
You know if I'm being honest I kind of enjoyed Superman returns , anyone else?
I did, too! It's just a little bit on the bland side.
I liked it. It was ok.
Crisdean Mackinnon KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRYPTONITE
It's just extremely forgettable. Compared to the amazing original one, with reeves
I don’t hate it, it’s just forgettable, bland, and takes no risks
How in the hell can Superman left an island full of Kryptonite?
Didn’t they actually film scenes of him exploring Krypton but then cut it from the movie?
Nice to see this Superman in Crisis though.
It's that t-shirt again. Doug, please!!!! What does the bottom of your t-shirt say. I beg you, reveal this mystery to us. Please. So I can sleep at night.
I think it says, "Fare Thee Well."
I look forward to the First Viewings more than the actual reviews
Petition to cast Samuel L Jackson as Lex Luthor because that would be fucking badass.
I'd watch Superman Returns a thousand times before ever watching Man of Steel again.
This is coming from a Superman fan, I legit fell asleep on this movie the first time I saw it. Like I know they made the joke in the review but I actually caught a nap
Lex Luthor: "Krrrrriptonite" 🤣🤣🤣
I didn't realize it until watching First Viewing, but the kid and the hitman aren't playing Chopsticks. They're playing Heart and Soul
Is anyone else tired of only seeing Zod & Luthor as the only bad guys in live-action Superman movies? Why can’t we get Brainiac, or Metallo, or Lobo? Say what you want about all the Batman movies, but at least they took advantage of Batman’s extensive Rogue’s Gallery.
Always great to remind people that the Man of Steel is a better movie
Anyone else feel like Parker Posey would've made a better Lois Lane than Kate Bosworth? She reminds me far more of Margot Kidder than Bosworth, and she even seems to have more chemistry with Routh in that one scene after he rescues her than Bosworth does in the entire fucking movie.
Krrrryptonite!
8:03 That's "Heart and Soul" guys.
Do people mix that up alot? i keep seeing that happen with people i know
The joke works better just saying Chopsticks. It doesn't fly over heads of people like yourself, but people like myself would have just listened & thought 'lol dad joke'.
They forgot to mention the old woman Lex married was one of the original Lois Lane actresses: Noel Neill.
She was also in a deleted scene in Superman:The Movie, as Lois Lane's mother. (Kirk Alyn, the first live-action Superman, was the father).
Oh my god I love Doug's "Bye Felicia" shirt...
I just remember this movie practically being allergic to plot and amnesiac that it’s a Superman movie.
Say what you will about Kevin Spacey as a person, I still feel this is the best live action Lex Luthor we've gotten. Unfortunately, he was spending that performance on this movie.
I was young when this came out so this was “my Superman” for a while lol
4:30, creepy and foreshadowing.
Doug? Rob? Are you alright? Do you want help? Self-harm is never the answer, you know.
You should review Padak. It’s a Korean animated film about a fish who wishes to escape captivity. It’s fun for all ages and free of any child trauma inducing images
8:17 - Aww, his first murder. They grow up so fast.
I was a kid and this movie got me to appreciate film so teach their own lol. The text at the beginning is because they cut out a longer intro to save time. (I will readily admit though, it's not for everyone.)
Did you guys watch the deleted intro scene of Kal El exploring the ruins of Krypton?
With all this corona stuff, it’s always a wonder if we’ll get a first viewing or not
I'll take this Superman over gritty and depressed Superman anytime
This is also a downbeat and depressing Superman you know.
This Superman is a deadbeat dad, which is infinitely more depressing than "Still rises above and saves the world, but doesn't smile enough".
@@northwindkey how is he a deadbeat if he didn't know he had a son?
6:32 Epic Movie already made that joke.
To be fair; everyone who saw this movie made that joke
That wasn’t in the full film was it lol
Ugh. Must you mention that 'film?'
i liked Superman Returns a lot, at the time, i even had sound ques on my computer for a while until it screwed it up a lot and lagged the crap out of it lol
man the scenes feel even slower when watching you guys react to it
It was very odd that at a time when iconic superheroes were getting a resurgence and with Bryan Singer in control fresh after the first two X-Men movies, they took this stupid route making a nostalgic "love letter" to the Donner/Reeve movies. Just seemed like a wasted opportunity at the time to give Superman a proper reboot.
Can you imagine if Superman Returns had the Doomsday ending rather than giant rock ending? Instead of Lex finding a rock, he accidentally unleashes a creature that could kill Superman.
So John Williams did the Superman score as well as Imperial March? Definitely have to look into the rest of his work.
This film has a lot of issues I have with the Sequel Trilogy when it comes to the gap between the ending of Return of the Jedi and how TFA and TLJ just basically retcon everything into a new "Empire vs Rebellion" scenario, maybe even more cookie cutter than before, and just talks about who is who instead of doing new stuff, showing how the new villains rose in a different way than Palpatine and the character dynamics and development of Ben Solo before turning evil.
No, the films are afraid to do all that and prefer to imitate scenes from the old films hoping I'll just clap like a retarded seal performing to get a fish.
I have watched too many CW shows and cannot see the actor as anyone but ATOM! And it infuriates the hell out of me
Now I see Superman as Tyler Hoechlin thanks to Superman and Lois, which is actually really good so far. Much better than the other crap-tier shows on the CW.
6:45
Sorry ma’am, I have a non-girlfriend I have to go stalk.
I like the character of Superman but I feel like each movie that comes out are either a hit or miss. Over the years they had some really good movies but also turds too.
You could say that about Spider-Man, Batman...most heroes with a whole bunch of movies by different people...
Superman is inherently difficult to write for because he's so powerful. A writer either instinctively knows how to bring out the heart or they don't. It doesn't help that Lex Luthor is kinda right, most people are not good and noble on a level like Superman which can make him so hard to relate to. I know if I had his power, I'd be doing stuff to put all the Superdickery to shame, I think most people would.
It's because the fandom is so divided that WB doesn't know how to please them. If you make Superman too flawed people bitch that he isn't enough of the "classic Boy Scout" he needs to be. But if you make him too perfect they complain he's too boring. And if you actually manage to nail it on your third try or something... WB takes away your film and gives it to the guy who wrote Alien Resurrection.
With how young Superman and Lois are in this movie, you can't help but notice the horrible implications of the teen pregnancy the two characters had.
At least they look their age in the actual Superman and Lois show.
LOW KEY BECAUSE MULAN 2 was my favorite movie when I was 7
These videos are always better than nostalgia critic
This was first Superman film I saw... as a kid who saw the animated series and Justice League... this film was a SUPER bore. Man of Steel was definitely the better film and absolutely the better Superman film. It felt more like the Timmverse I grew up with. And after reading the DC comics... I'll still say Man of Steel was better. This film didn't feel like a Superman film... it felt like an homage to the Superman film. It's just the same as Force Awakens in rehashing the same plot but saying it's different. I guess Force Awakens was more entertaining so it got a pass.
With all the issues with the opening sentence, there is an extended opening scene (deleted) that showed Superman going to Krypton... I really want a cut with that back in.. Its completely done, Vfx, audio and all.. and GORGEOUS.
My biggest question is when superman is in the hospital bed why did no one care where Clark was but this is my favorite superman movie I just like it I do not know why the style and the story I think is good.