It's not completely their fault they are constantly affected by western standards and don't have subtle knowledge about indian history and NCERT is the major cause of it.
‘Brahmins’ would memorise every scripture by heart in the form of mantras, so even if the books are ‘burned’, they’d write it again. Hence, the attacks which continues till date.
Yup that's true. Due to some "foreign" inspiration some of the brahmin community during mid british rule in India started to discriminate against people by their castes. This was the first result of britain's divide and rule policy. This caused hate to stack up in those oppressed people who still continue to hate Brahmins till today. I do apologize for the wrongdoings by our ancestors. But targeting the present community of brahmins is wrong. Yes I do agree that some people in the rural side still do this, but this is outrageous. It's like we should attack UK for their ancestors occupying our land and ostracising muslims because of the malfeasance of their ancestors 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@anirudhsripadakoundinya543 I don't agree with the accusations that Brahmins, at any point in the time, discriminated or persecuted other sections of society. Even in Medieval period, you'll see the Brahmins in the forefront against the social evils prevailing at that period of time. Even during the British, Brahmins were there to fight against the colonialism as well as Christian Missionaries. That's why Missionaries created hell lot of atrocity literature in the last few centuries that even Brahmins themselves feel guilty all the time for some imaginary wrongdoings they supposedly commit. Before British, Brahmins, though poor, were the most respected and admired community by all sections of society.
It can easily debunked Kalidasa was Lakadhara, Vishwamitra was a Kshatriya, Maharsi Valmiki, Raidasa all were considered brahmins gyani and intellectuals and all were from different JATI
Exactly. Likewise Pundita Vidwan etc. was a title for anybody who had a masters degree so to speak. That's why you still have those titles in sanskrit studies and classical music and dance which subjects of ancient study have not been destroyed.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 you're right. The word caste is from Portuguese word Casta - the first europeans to come into India and tyrannize the locals. And each wave of Europeans *read the books of their predecssors* before they ventured into this tropical land full of jungles. So the Germans and British too perpetuated their own idea that there was a "caste system" here! We don't even have the word "Hindu" anywhere in our scriptures. Not a single place does it say "only these people are ours and those not.." as the Abrahamics do.
@@crypton_8l87 that's why I always try to avoid to used the word Hindu. We are sanatanis not hindus. And TBH no kne knows what exactly happened in Ramayan and Mahabharat time because mahabharat happened 5500 year before and Ramayan happened 9,10 thousands years before so no one claim that they knew what happened at that time. This period is huge and the language, culture, the meaning of may words also changes. Its not necessary that what we are reading today about our history is 💯 true.
The thing is when East Asians were comming to India for studies and they were granted permission then definitely all local Indians got education. That's how advanced Bharata education system was .
Temples are Schools in India as exactly said by Sir, and nowhere you find any Stone Inscription barring a sect or clan/caste to either enter or pursue/seek education. This itself exemplifies the egalitarianism prevailed in then society.
Excellent piece!! Want to add a few things - Dharampal was wonderful enough and so his book “Beautiful tree” is publicly available for free download. Next is that, as per the data maintained by British and quoted by Dharampal - one group seems to have been disproportionately behind in getting educated when compared to its population. It’s Muslim women - they are around 0.4% if I remember right. So while Hindu ladies got educated and ensured education for their kids, per data it looks like Muslim women were unfortunately left out and that sort of explains some of their challenges.
That time also think about population of Muslims in bharat... They are in really minority... And it's Vedic education system so how will Muslims will allow to teach their kids in Hindu teaching school... Use some brain... It's common sense
I am shocked by this discussion! I have read many texts by Dr. Ambedkar and in his essay Annihilation of Caste which is available freely on the internet, he has with proof and with reference given information regarding how the caste system existed, and all castes were equal, but it was the Brahmins who changed it into a caste hierarchy , where they were above all other castes and the idea of pollution and all came into being and also the Brahmins enclosed their caste, changed it to be based on birth where nobody else could enter or exit any caste and all other castes followed and shudras were left with no option, they had no access to a decent life, forget education. I am not a Dalit but I have read Ambedkar and I am well educated and basically denying the injustice done to the Dalits is the very reason they still deserve reservations!
@MULLO KAA YAMRAJ XI JINPING, XINJIANG =NARK(HELL) I am amazed how confidently you state something you have just heard somewhere from unverified resources. Ambedkar had knowledge of 9 languages like Hindi, Pali, Sanskrit, English, French, German, Marathi, Persian, and Gujarati. He might have read Max Muller but it does not mean that he learnt Sanskrit texts from translated versions of Muller’s books !
@MULLO KAA YAMRAJ XI JINPING, XINJIANG =NARK(HELL) so by just stating max muller you assumed that he dont have any knowledge of sanskrit. stop watching shitty videos of the string. i know he has said this in his videos.
@@PositivelyPresent1 Wrong. Ambedkar didn't know Sanskrit. He Confessed it in his own books, Mr Propagandist. Moreover the Data given by Abhijit Chavda is from Dharampal's The Beautiful Tree and is the BRITISH COLLECTED DATAS. Uun British k kabr pe jaakar Galaa Faado abb. Plus, Ambedkar was a Political person and a British stoog and never supported freedom movement.
@@46_shivangipandey96 yeah yeah you have all the knowledge seems like, his reservation thing is making many indians leave india for better opportunities, first accept that, nobody knows in which caste they are going to be born so, still in 2022 crying about that is wrong, it's nobodies fault. and year by year they are asking for more reservations , if he was a visionary then he would think of things to balance not to tilt power to one side to another, and his mostly quoted MAX MULLAR, i mean comeone, he is quoting a guy who talked about the destruction of indian education system and to impose colonial british slave education system, now you tell if you are fighting for injustice and again you quote things from the people who colonize you how could be that a visionary? and if he doesn't like Hinduism because of caste it's fine it's his opinion, but how can he convert many Hindus ? because he doesn't like? and 2nd thing EVERY COUNTRY MAKES CONSITUTION ON THE BASIS OF THEIR OWN CULTURE AND LIFESTYLE, why do we need a All mix fruit juice constitution which has inspired from many constitutions of the world? i mean come on, and the main thing why did they imposed that constitution to all? doesn't all of us have our own right to know what is being imposed on us? Visionary thinks about everyone, short sighted thinks about only their past.
By breaking this narrative on brahims, this is literally dividing us, and west also knows that if again people treat brahims like others then all this missionaries will collapse, again everyone will be taught about cultural roots.
@@vs_3080 Brahmins should behave as Brahmins ! How many Brahmins by Birth are doing works of a Brahmin ? You can find biggest Goons as well in Brahmin Community in North atleast !
@@DevaEkoNaaraayanah Brahmins should behave like Brahmins, and also every varna should also behave like how they should, but does a person knows that he is going to take a Brahmin birth ?, nobody's knows where and to whom they born before so blaming and pointing is easy, and in any varna bad and goonda people exists, so first learn 1 thing that, person's behaviours are different from their varnas.
Madras method was called "école mutuelle " in France copied from the British who themselves copied from Tamil nadu ÉDUCATION SYSTÈME called by BRITISH AS MADRAS METHOD...wherr a student, older, will help younger students..
Yes, Valmiki was Dalit. Even Vyasa was a half-Dalit (his mother was a Dalit). Even Vyasa's wife was Dalit. The compiler of Mahabharat was also a Dalit: Suta Pauranika. The most famous Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India: 1) Kapila (2250 BCE) (Kapila invented Decimal numerical system & discovered copper. The concept of Vishnu & Sankhya philosophy were also from Kapila. He came up with concept of 'Karma' and concept of 'Ahimsa'). 2) Aitareya Mahidasa (2200 BCE) (started aranyaka movement. Concept of interconnected world. Emphasis on Truth) 3) Jabali (2100 BCE) (Atheist & rationalist. He was disciple of Gauthama) 4) Upali (2050 BCE) (He wrote Buddhist Vinaya after death of Gautams Buddha) 5) Ugrashrava Suta (1975 BCE) (1st editor & compilor of Mahabharata) 6) Nandikeshwara (1950 BCE) (Shiva worship, Kamasutra) 7) Valmiki (1950 BCE) (Ramayana, 1st poet, family values) 8) Bhaasa (1925 BCE) 9) Shudhraka (Mricchakatika) (1650 BCE) 10) Kalidasa (50 BCE) (Greatest poet of Ancient India) (I am only mentioning a few, there are many more...) Half-Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India: 1) Vyasa (2025 BCE) (Author of Mahabharata) 2) Shukha (1975 BCE) (Author of Bhaagavatham) Dalit Literature: 1) Mahabharata 2) Ramayana 3) Bhagavatham 4) Puraanas 5) Bhaasa's dramas 6) Mricchakatika 7) Kaalidasa's dramas. Brahmins controlled Education of Ancient India. Dalits controlled folk Entertainment of Ancient India. (Dalits used to be folk singers. Professional actors were mostly Dalits). Both Brahmins & Dalits were able to spread their ideas into society. Most of the modern Hinduism is low caste religion. Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas...etc were all written and propagated mainly by low castes (particularly Dalits). Later, Brahmins made a few additions & deletions. The Brahmin literature was Vedas & Brahmanas & Kalpasutra. Idol worship again was introduced and promoted by low castes. Brahmins did only Yagnas. Shiva, Vishnu, Rama, Krishna, Durga, Lakshmi,....etc are all Gods of low castes. The original Brahminical Gods were Brahma, Indra, Agni, ...etc. You can clearly see many episodes in Bhagavatham & Shiva Puraana were the Brahminical Gods are shown as defeated by the Gods of low castes like Krishna & Shiva. Originally, Yagnas had animal sacrifice as the core aspect of the ritual. Then, Dalit Kapila came up with the concept of 'Karma' and encouraged Ahimsa. Later, Ahimsa was promoted heavily by Jain Gurus (Kshtriyas) around 2200 to 1900 BCE. So, Brahmins deleted Animal Sacrifice from Yagna and became Vegetarians around 1900 to 1800 BCE. Eventually, Yagnas got sidelined completely and replaced by Temples (and idol worship). Many Dalits lived on the edges of the society. Some Dalits lived in cities in close contact with armorers & weapon-makers, while other Dalits lived near the edges of forest in close contact with tribals. So, when rebellions happened, usually it involved Dalits. Dalit+Tribal was the most successful combo. But, even Dalit+Brahmin worked pretty well (Eg: Chandragupta Maurya + Chaanakya). So, new dynasties (established by rebelling against previous dynasty) were frequently Dalits who were later elevated to a royalty in few generations by Brahmins (who used to be ministers & teachers of royalties). Also, royalties which were removed from power (by a rebellion or invasion) were demoted to Dalit caste.
@@Red-wh3ok It was like this only. Whenever any Dalit intellectual became very popular, he (and his clan) was elevated to Brahminhood. Similarly, whenever any Dalit became King, he and his clan were elevated to status of Kshatriya or Rajput. Similarly, defeated Royalty was demoted to Dalit status. Brahmins (who fell out of line) were demoted to Dalit status. This constant social churning has been going on in Indian society. (This does not mean that caste discrimination did not exist. Caste discrimination existed, but despite that there was a constant social churning in India).
@@trira1171 oh. If caste system represented social hierarchy and it was changable, then its okay, but I don't see it changing nowadays. A brahmin is a brahmin regardless of what he does, same for shudra.
Sir as far as I have read, even in time of sri Chaitanya that is 500 to 600 years from now, in the tolas where Sanskrit was taught, there along with Brahmins different varnas used to study. So clearly there was no discrimination in ancient India about education.
Hi Abhijit if we read Dr.Babasaheb Ambedkar's books it shows a very depressing picture of the Indian Caste system.And if there wasn't a divide there would have no need of a such a revolution on a such a huge scale.Cannot undermine the notations of such a learned man ; Mr Ambedkar.Also there were a lot of revolutions for womens right to learning by many such great people.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 varna jati existed but discrimknation was not started by British the word caste might be given by them but education was limited to certain sections of society and not just ambedkar there is enough evidence that people used to follow duties of their own varnas
Dr. Bhim Ambedkar was wrong about caste system. He was brainwashed by the communist author books. His revolution ended up harming Bharat. This is why Bhim Ambedkar is not worth praising.
#AskAbhijit Sir day by day my curiosity is increasing to know more about our history , I wish our history teacher could teach like you ! My question is - Don't you think we should have a committe to check all the fake propaganda done by britishers? Even today we blindly follow those "so called" propaganda done by britishers and teach false history to our youth ..... *They made us poor and very , very cleverly narrated false stories and blamed us totally for the situation* Sir , I don't know why but my feeling for western people is developing like *"DOGS AND WESTERNS AREN'T ALLOWED"*
Very well said. Yes India was the most educated country in the world - but not the kind of skill deveopment education we mistake it for. Real eduction is the discovery of the self which India still excels in. Occupational education was imparted basis "vrittis' or aptitudes and hence the progression of those skills were mostly familial and fell into "srenis". It was the most authentic and scienfitic culture till date. Not like today's "education" where they teach you to get a job or follow trends.
Due to distortion and divisions by invaders everyone looted and claimed whatever they laid their hands upon, so those section had their eyes upon temples an exploited other varnas, it's not like exploitation existed before that, but due to sudden collapse of country culture everyone turned against their own men and started robbing people with their own idealogy which didn't exist previously, no Brahmin ever tried to disregard any person expect inin the past two centuries where they themselves have no knowledge of what's right or wrong.
Sir what's your thoughts about tajmahal and lal qila as some peoples are claiming these monuments is belongs to ancient india but the Turkish people invaded india and they claimed that these monuments are built by turkish invador i am confused ...
We should challenge woke University of California system to introduce reservations for African Americans and others under-represented communities. Affirmative Action is not enough reparation for the crimes of slavery and discrimination that continues to this day. A 50 percent quota sounds like a good start. Who is in?
No.. I completely disagree.. reservation is a concept that totally destroys meritocracy.. Also instead of fighting to remove reservation in India why are you trying to fight for something in the US.. let them deal with it themselves.. reservation is destroying Indian education system.. why are you trying to destroy some other country's education system
Also if you look at the statistics.. black American women have the highest college education percentage of all ethnical groups in America.. so I don't see the point of reservation
But in Mahabharat, dronacharya denied to give education to Eklavya just because of his caste. And Manusmriti is biggest DATA that shudra should not pursue education.
Ekalvya was NOT denied due to his caste. Other Reasons behind it. Read the Mahabharata book, DO NOT just blabber here by watching 5minute Video about Mahabharata book.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 it was due to the fact that he is the son of the king from enemy nation, but the division kinda existed which increased as time passed due to increasing ego of so called bramhins
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 sis no I respect bramhins , I said you don't become a bramhin if you are just from lineage of Brahmins, I was taunting the majority of these lineage bramhins who were living off from their ancestors success and gaining ego. A true bramhin never discriminates a person by his blood he possess or the work the person does.
Bhartiya sanskrit was perfect Can you imagine a servant sending a prince to jungle in any other country? No but lord ram was exiled and he never was unhappy he didnt feel bad such is our lord ram 🙏🏼
There was education through the church and then through the army, not to mentioned the rich would also have private education for their children. I suppose Universities is where formal education really took off and became powerful as a cultural force. Also, what about libraries? Formal education for everyone in society was only done once countries figured out they were stronger with a more educated population, otherwise the elite will stay educated while keeping the others out. In the US, it was common in rural areas up until the mid 1900s to stop school at 8th grade so you could start work on the farm, basic education really.
what ever you have said might be true, but why still people aren't ready accept us(Dalits) in this society equally. I don't know what happens in other places but I stay in Odisha in a village and this so called caste system is very much prevalent. We can't open hotels where people can eat, we can't open grocery stores etc. some barber shops hesitate for us to have a haircut from there. And this I am speaking todays scenario. I am not blaming them because it normally happens in rural areas where literacy rate is very low. How can we address this issue.
We can address this issue by education and urbanisation because I have seen that in villages discrimination is there but in cities I don't find it anywhere, there might be some but I have not seen it personally nor any of my known people , what happens is when we are uneducated then people seems to discriminate a lot ,its not just in India but everywhere.
@@Maverick11021 equality in reservation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. ...... I have no sympathy for reserved category people because one person got admission in master degree with 50% and i didn't after 85%..😅
#AskAbhijit Sir, can you please suggest best author or books which gives the most accurate translation of Vedas and Upnishads. Thank you for making our generation aware about the beautiful history of India and busting myths.
#askabhijit Why do some of the symbols found in keezhadi resembles with the symbols of Harappan Civilization ? Are they similar people's ? Or some set of people's migrated from north to south after or at the downfall time of Harappan Civilization ? Like some old texts refer that Agastya came down south with 11 set of people's/kings from North around or after the time of downfall of Harappa civilization.
Shri Abhijit Chavda,pls make a video on How India can achieve arms and ammunition freedom and parameters required to build a prospering private arms industry in India.
See Dr.Ambedkar he was opposed to drinking water. Thanks to the British government he got admission to School. Education Discrimination Is true. Education is available to common Indian people after 1950. Caste system should be stop.
#AskAbhijit Sir my question is that Sir whenever I take money or documents or any other thing from my left hand then everyone shouts me and say pick from right hand also once in my examination when teacher was giving question paper he said take it from right hand...Sir I m really irritated by this as its our own body part given by God so how could it be SUBH or ASUBH whether it is left or right hand or something else...pls ans sir🙁
There is a clear reason for that atleast in the Indian context. Firstly, in India, as our culture is based on ethics, hygiene, harmony with nature, compassion, respect for all living beings, humility, plurality in perception leading to unity in diversity, and sustainable living. So, majority of the sayings or concepts transferred orally are based on the underlying culture... And over a period of time the knowledge behind the practices is lost in history, but the practice remains. Not all practices but majority of them. Coming to the Left hand thing, historically it was a hygeine thing. We use Left hand for cleaning and so, we can't use the same hand for social eating, or handling things in social interactions.... As using the same hand used for cleaning is unhygienic if we use it for eating (causing infection in our body) , or handling things in social interactions (transferring germs to others, similar to How Covid has spread rapidly through contact surfaces touched by the infected). So, it was adviced to use only the hygeinic right hand for social interactions, handling things and eating. Even in today's age, if the handwashing is not done properly the risk if infection is still there will the left hand. This is the primary reason. Secondly, if we see through the "respect for everything and everyone" aspect of our culture, then using our dominant hand for interacting with people or important objects, is a gesture, which is a sign of respect, (as we are consciously choosing our dominant hand to interact with that person or an object). It shows our humility and respect for others or that specific object we are holding, through this gesture. If we are using our non-dominant hand to interact with someone, that means we are giving them lower priority, i,e., we are not showing any respect. Of course the same thing applies to the lefties, if they use their right hand for cleaning, then they have to use their dominant left hand for social interactions, handling things. I totally understand why you felt that way. But there are many traditions and customs which we just blindly follow, but majority of them have a proper reason behind those practices. If the reason behind those practices is a reasonable one and a legitimate one, then there is only benefit for us in it, and there is no harm in following it as well.
Since You asked . Most of modern Hindu families of upper castes are from Afganisthan pakistan region . (they had migrated maybe during Gupta period or before and after that . ) like my surname is Shrivastava (Which means inhabitants of swat river in Present day pakistan ) . You know Panini he was born in Present day afganisthan . Infact whole central India wasn't part of Hinduism because It has Gond and Many Tribal kingdoms . And about South , then where their is better resources , Hindus go and settled there . Like Maha , Tamil naidu , Odisha etc . Now comes the main part . Tribes of Central india and (Jungles of Bihar jharkand , telengana , karnataka and andhra pradesh ) were Homelands to Tribal population to a larger extent . Like here Jabalpur (MP ) is a Gond kingdom even after British invasion till 1700s or early 1800s . Since These tribes do not cook food , but more or less rely on Animal , meat products as well as heavily depends on Huntering Unlike Those of Us who lived in Colder region of Afganisthan pakistan where their is enough Resources +Water so we mostly were Vegetarians and from then on their is a debate about Nonveg vs Veg . This Debate led to Start of the untouchability as Tribes are mostly Hunters and since. Many of our ancestors see Hunting a crime They Doesn't want to live among them . That's why These Tribes lived Outside villages (Same like how Gypcies still live in Europe ) . Then their is Ethical and moral debates , Crimes commited by Tribes , like Looting , etc as well as invasions of Muslims which too create Problems . Maybe during such times (Due to anger against Muslims as well as These tribes association with Them /or being nonveg , or else not able to merge with Hindus create more problems for both of us ) . That's why if you are from (Central India like me ) there is Least problem faced by Lower castes by Upper castes (Dispite the fact that they Still discriminate amoung one another themselves ). But when I moved to Delhi for coaching I noticed much Discrimination of my Lower caste friend in trains after His surname is found out by travellers . One aunty was Chatting with him whole time till i woke up . Then she happen to ask about Our names in case we need any help in Delhi . When He mentioned his name , Look in her face is different . Infact when we reached the station She asked Me (Despite the fact that i was in no mood to talk to her in whole journey )and not him . Similarly I feel same thing when i visited Bihar , One of my friend (Saket dewangan ) and I purchased Chips and we eat it with Some bihari friends of my another Friend .Now since They live in Bihar when they know about Saket , They literally avoid eating chips from packet . (initially i thought WTF , then One of them asked me Why are you eating with him ) . Same also happened with BR AMBEDKAR , REMEMBER his father was In army madhya pradesh , His family doesn't feel discrimination here . But as soon as his father died And family moved to Maharastra (Their own home town ) all of a sudden Discrimination starts ) . So maybe Tribals and We are different , Maybe we doesn't able to mend properly and due to this we have problems . This doesn't mean they were Historically Oppressed like Blacks in US (Modern woke Intellectual propaganda) . Because their was not any concept of Slave , And neither There is any kind of Written Set of rules for How To deal with tribes , nor any historic account of such tortures . The problem was We encroached their Jungles and they kindda left behind due to (Less power and fertility , lacks of hygene and prone to Wild animal attacks , reason can be many ) . Infact My own Family (Atleast upto my grand father )which is born in 1935 there is No exploitation , We happily lived even now in place surrounded by Gonds and Ahirs , My own Aunt is from Lower caste and My Grand father and mother had no problem with Her infact She served them till their last breadth .
I don't understand why the fuss about education? Not everyone needed to mug up shlokas for their work. Traders , artisans learnt vocationally. We should think how many people does so called education benefits even today .
Whatever I studied isnt important to me education is over glorified ! Instead of spending lakhs on BTEch degree we can open a kirana shop with that money Padh likh kr naukar banke naukri krne se far better hai
@@saloni2244 Too much unnecessary education is causing unemployment. Kabhi kisi ancient time ki book mein padha hai ki berozgari ki problem ho ? Nhi. Sab kuch na kuch karna jante the aur karte the.
But even today in many villages certain people who belong to a certain cast are not allowed inside the temple, so this must have been a practice since centuries right? kindly explain this sir bigg fan..
And also Mahabharat can not be used as a template to judge and generalize people. It was the dark period of the nation and period of political turmoil and corruption.
The most famous Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India: 1) Kapila (2250 BCE) (Kapila invented Decimal numerical system & discovered copper. The concept of Vishnu & Sankhya philosophy were also from Kapila. He came up with concept of 'Karma' and concept of 'Ahimsa'). 2) Aitareya Mahidasa (2200 BCE) (started aranyaka movement. Concept of interconnected world. Emphasis on Truth) 3) Jabali (2100 BCE) (Atheist & rationalist. He was disciple of Gauthama) 4) Upali (2050 BCE) (He wrote Buddhist Vinaya after death of Gautams Buddha) 5) Ugrashrava Suta (1975 BCE) (1st editor & compilor of Mahabharata) 6) Nandikeshwara (1950 BCE) (Shiva worship, Kamasutra) 7) Valmiki (1950 BCE) (Ramayana, 1st poet, family values) 8) Bhaasa (1925 BCE) 9) Shudhraka (Mricchakatika) (1650 BCE) 10) Kalidasa (50 BCE) (Greatest poet of Ancient India) (I am only mentioning a few, there are many more...) Half-Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India: 1) Vyasa (2025 BCE) (Author of Mahabharata) 2) Shukha (1975 BCE) (Author of Bhaagavatham) Dalit Literature: 1) Mahabharata 2) Ramayana 3) Bhagavatham 4) Puraanas 5) Bhaasa's dramas 6) Mricchakatika 7) Kaalidasa's dramas. Brahmins controlled Education of Ancient India. Dalits controlled folk Entertainment of Ancient India. (Dalits used to be folk singers. Professional actors were mostly Dalits). Both Brahmins & Dalits were able to spread their ideas into society. Most of the modern Hinduism is low caste religion. Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas...etc were all written and propagated mainly by low castes (particularly Dalits). Later, Brahmins made a few additions & deletions. The Brahmin literature was Vedas & Brahmanas & Kalpasutra. Idol worship again was introduced and promoted by low castes. Brahmins did only Yagnas. Shiva, Vishnu, Rama, Krishna, Durga, Lakshmi,....etc are all Gods of low castes. The original Brahminical Gods were Brahma, Indra, Agni, ...etc. You can clearly see many episodes in Bhagavatham & Shiva Puraana were the Brahminical Gods are shown as defeated by the Gods of low castes like Krishna & Shiva. Originally, Yagnas had animal sacrifice as the core aspect of the ritual. Then, Dalit Kapila came up with the concept of 'Karma' and encouraged Ahimsa. Later, Ahimsa was promoted heavily by Jain Gurus (Kshtriyas) around 2200 to 1900 BCE. So, Brahmins deleted Animal Sacrifice from Yagna and became Vegetarians around 1900 to 1800 BCE. Eventually, Yagnas got sidelined completely and replaced by Temples (and idol worship). Many Dalits lived on the edges of the society. Some Dalits lived in cities in close contact with armorers & weapon-makers, while other Dalits lived near the edges of forest in close contact with tribals. So, when rebellions happened, usually it involved Dalits. Dalit+Tribal was the most successful combo. But, even Dalit+Brahmin worked pretty well (Eg: Chandragupta Maurya + Chaanakya). So, new dynasties (established by rebelling against previous dynasty) were frequently Dalits who were later elevated to a royalty in few generations by Brahmins (who used to be ministers & teachers of royalties). Also, royalties which were removed from power (by a rebellion or invasion) were demoted to Dalit caste.
WTF are you talking dude? I doubt you have read anything, you are just copying and pasting here. 🤬, where did it mentioned that brahmin gods were defeated by low caste gods like, Krishna, shiva and others? Guys he is just labelling things with low caste and upper caste shit. Not all what he has written is true.
does not make sense and the dates do not add up. As per this write up, hinduism is only 4000 years old. But in reality it is close to 14000. Surya Siddantha was written over 6000 years ago, which would date further back than 2250 BCE which is the oldest date in the above write up. Also I am not convinced that something called a "Dalit" even existed back then. It was just the 4 Varnas. If the claim is that the last varna is "Dalit" then it needs to be backed with proof. As per this post, varna was by birth and not actions. But in reality varna changed based on what one did and not birth. It was so even 500 years ago. The Mughal and British genocide of hindus changed that because populations were decimated and they destroyed our systems of varna and education based on which the varna decision was made. Also this writeup still propagates the "upper caste" and "lower caste" myth, which is what it is ... a myth. Is the wheel of the car any more "lower" than the engine ? without the wheel or the engine or the chassis the car is not going anywhere. So there is no meaning in the above post which claims that there were "upper caste" gods and "lower caste" gods. Hear what Sadhguru says and you will understand things properly.
@@siddharthawarwade4902 It is based on my 15 yrs of research into ancient Indian history. The sources I have used are: a) Mahabharata b) Puraanas c) Ramayana and other such ancient Indian literature.
@@amoghvc 1) About the dates: a) Human Civ began in India (near Saraswathi River) in 2500 BCE. 4500 yrs ago. All the dates (earlier than 2500 BCE) given by everyone else for human Civ are wrong. b) Around 2300 BCE: Some groups of Indians migrated to Iraq and started the Assyrian Civilization. Other Indian groups migrated to Ganga Valley. c) Around 2100 to 2000 BCE: Saraswathi River dried up. So, there was a largescale migration from North West India to Ganga Valley, South India, Iraq, Iran and Egypt. (Egyptian Civ began in 2100 BCE). The first Jews migrated to Iraq from India around 2100 BCE. (Abraham -> Brahma Sara -> Saraswathi River Hagar -> Ghaggar River) d) Around 1925 BCE, there was a massive earth quake in North West India which caused a tsunami which drowned the island of Dwarka. The people of Dwarka died. People of coastal Gujarat (Saurashtra) migrated to Iran, Iraq, UP and South India. (2nd Batch of Jews migrated from India to Iraq at this time. The word Juda comes from Yadu). 2) About caste status: a) Varna system was just a guideline type. The actual system that was followed was Jaathi. And Jaathi system was based on birth by default. b) Was there a Jaathi based discrimination in ancient India? Yes, there was Jaathi based discrimination in Ancient India. The episode of Karna in Mahabharata represents this discrimination. (Was untouchability practiced in Ancient India? It was practiced sometimes in some areas against certain Jaathis. Untouchability trend was on and off). c) Did Dalit caste exist in Ancient India? The Dalit name did not exist in ancient India, but Dalit caste existed in Ancient India. In the initial days (around 2300 to 1800 BCE), Dalits were known as 'Dasas'. There are many people who had a sirname of 'Dasa' in Ancient India. They were all Dalits. 'Dasyus' are mentioned in Vedas. d) Was Ancient Indian caste system fluid? Was it possible for people to intermarry or for one caste to be elevated or demoted in social status? Yes. Firstly, different castes had their spheres of influence. There were many areas were Dalits were powerful. Infact, there were many Dalit Empires and Kingdoms in the Ancient India. So, it was possible for Dalits to enforce their own rules in many places in different timeperiods in Ancient India. After 2 or 3 generations, a Dalit dynasty would get elevated into a Kshtriya varna. Similarly, a defeated Kshtriya dynasty would get demoted to Shudra Varna. e) Sadhguru is good for Spirituality, not history... 3) About the Gods: a) Brahminical Gods were: Brahma, Indra, Agni, Vayu, ...etc. b) Brahminical Ritual was: Yagnya. c) Animal Sacrifice was core part of Yagnya. d) Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Durga...etc worship was started by low castes and propagated by low castes. e) Brahminical Literature: Vedas, Kalpasutras, Dharmashastras, ...etc. f) Low caste Literature: Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas, Dramas, ....etc. Upanishads were also non-Brahmin literature (in some ways, it was anti-Brahmin literature because Upanishads sidelined the Braminical rituals and laid emphasis on philosophy and self-enlightenment). Finally, I dont believe in any caste being upper or lower. I am just saying that these things were practiced in history. Anyway, I am not saying that some caste were always upper caste and other castes were always lower castes. Infact, I am saying that while the caste discrimination existed in smaller timeframe (100 yrs), but, in longer timeframe (like 500 to 1000 yrs), Indian caste system was very fluid. Upper castes were demoted to lower caste status and lower castes were elevated to upper caste status. So, almost all castes suffered at some point under the wheel of caste discrimination in the long run (4500 yrs).
I like the mindset behind these answers, off course we shouldn't see ourselves or our culture, history from the point of view of western world but the truth is Caste system was and is a sad reality in India. I am from Uttar Pradesh(lucknow) and even here in the city one can clearly see the difference between education and living standards among people of different castes. In my college Kkv almost every head of department since the college is established was an upper caste person. Even today 80% staff is of general category because most of the education institutions are owned by upper caste peoples and because they are much more educated in comparison to lower class peoples. In my village even I have seen people of low caste treated badly in government schools. Even Ambedkar faced a lot of trouble in getting education only because he was from lower caste. These are all live and practical examples so don't just blindly follow any stupid idea that says everything is good...we were all saints. Clearly he is biased here
Book THE BEAUTIFUL TREE by Dharampal gives detailed account of schools, teachers and students with caste. It is from Btitish records. Data shows that people from all castes were part of system. Popular media stories are junk.
All the Vedas were taught only to certain genius like persons as memorizing everything is not possible for normal persons. Also educating all in one line is not required. People were educated their own trades and these trades were supported so that everyone had necessary incomes. All people who ever was inclined were taught sastras and vedas. No discrimination. Later when the invaders spiked spoiled original systems, only, Brahmins stuck to vedas and kept these alive. Even now education is given to anyone who is interested both men and women.
If we were so civilized people and were so much educated what was jyotirao phule savitribai phule was doing!!? What was the struggle all about.. !! Why untouchability existed n still existing in vishwaguru Bharat!!!?? Reform happens when we accept our flaws , romanticising even our bad deeds won't lead to anywhere..
This shows how educated you really are what happened after the British entered India is different from what it was pre-britsih era, yes Our society have all those things after British came here no denying that but sir before it was not the case so plzz don't mix both of them and read what British themselves said about Indian Education system
@@greatsir43 I am eager to read Mr dharampal ji .. how ever to reject everything written by all other historians and level them as westernised , this is nothing more than sensationalization. This person's stand is close to RSS, he doesn't believe in constitution neither has any empathy towards our freedom struggle...
@@greatsir43 British just took advantage of the division that already existed in Indian society,they didn't create it. Don't insult people just because you are brainwashed or trying to brainwash others.
@@udaysheoran5433 Dumbo, read what is written in the Book the data was collected by the British themselves...and then make your argument, don't try to be too smart here no one is talking without facts and figures. British didn't divide this country 😂😂then form whom did they bring divide and rule policy... I think according to you for British themselves 😂.. study something that will me beneficial for you... From Munro Report of 1820 to the first census of India read how they divided people into different ridiculous caste according to skin, nose etc...read how they destroyed our indigenous education system and forcefully applied there Macaulayan education system by destroying Gurukuls... Arguing without facts here shows what mindset you carry mentally colonized Dumbo.
People talk about castesium by birth in India...if that's the case then how come a kashyap gotra is there in Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vasya....I'm a Rajput and I have friends of my gotra as a Brahman, Vasya...Don't have evidence about shudras but as told by my Father and his forefathers that a gotra can have many castes...let me tell you what gotra is..it tells you who your forefather was ...Mine was Raja Kashyap who later on became a Rishi and established Kashmir Valley
Caste is a Portugese origin word. Indian languages were particular about use of words. Varna and Jati in ancient times cannot be conflated with the modern Caste of today which has been a product of colonial thinking and which Indians have sadly internalized
Sir I am 15-16 year old boy and hugely inspired by you speeches and debates and the way you tell to conquer. I wanted to have have vedik and upanishad knowledge along with CBSE curriculum and ensure you that I will not harm my grades in the process So, please guide me what initial steps to take in order to be enlightened You might will not read but if reading please consider replying as it means a lot to me Thank You
#AskAbhijit Then why lord ram killed a shudra saint named shambuk on his caste who was doing mediation and who was interested in learning veda ,whose story is mentioned in Valmiki ramayana, uttar kanda ,sargas 73 -76.
Stop your false propaganda u communist demon it's not mentioned like that at all Lord Ram was above any barriers ! He even ate jutha ber of mata sabri Stop spreading false propaganda against lord ram atleast🙏🏼 tum jese bhadwe paiso k liye bhagwan tak k khilaf sajish krte ho
He was son of shoorpanakha..born as a result of vyabhichaara...He was only faking of learning Vedas not actually learning them..him and his little team wanted to overthrow raama so they did apaprachaara that raama accepted seeta who lost her purity while staying at Lanka and we can also do the same from now... people started gossipping everywhere and raama came to know about this..Later war happened and shambuka got killed in that.. Raama killed him to protect Dharma...Don't see vaidika samskruti in caste perspective... Raamayana is Veda sandesha in kaavya-itihaasa swaroopa written by vaalmiki Maharshi...puraanaas also have Veda sandesha in them... mahaabharaata too.. Go and read some Veda philosophy to understand kaavya in Vedic perspective..
Mere teacher khte the bharat itna advanced rha tha ek time pe ji jb baki duniya ke logo ko kpde pahane or kya khane kya nhi khane ka bhi idea nhi tha , boli nhi thi koi tb bharat me sanskrit me shlok padhe jate the , education system tha apna litreature tha itna advanced civilization rha h bharat puri duniya se
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Coming to the so called jati system playing spoilsport with education - one of the greatest scientists of our times Aryabhata (आर्यभट) is so called lower caste. But his work Aryabhateeyam’s commentary was written by another scientist who belonged to the so called higher caste.
Women take center stage in the temples of Isha Yoga center. Nobody says it's a matriarchal supremacy or some other rubbish. Every person takes different roles in a temple based on their capabilities not their caste or gender or even nationality. But now our temples are under goverment rule. They appoint whoever they want they segregate people into queues based on money because temples are good income for the government. They paint ugly vanish colours on our exquisite carvings. They even allow temple land to be auctioned. #FreeOurTemples
Okay but book by upinder singh mentioned all the basis and I believe in that because she is the one who is recognized as professional , not you , her books run all over the country and book have all the details
I want to know timeframe in which actually women were not allowed to study. We know that during modern days, Mahatma Phule started the first school for girls and during Vedic era women were imparted knowledge and we're author of great texts. But why during certain time period they were denied education? #askAbhijit
NCERT and many websites like Byjus and claim that women and shudra were not allowed to read Veda I really want to raise my voice against it as women always read Vedas and those people who didn't grasp Vedas were Shudras not another way round
These days real Brahmins doesn't exist or they are very rare who have these qualities to whom we called brahmin in today's world. who possess Brahmins titles are actually most of them are shudra brahmin being brahmin is very tough task. Our society is destroyed completly. Brahmins doesn't ask for respect it's a people who give them respect like Elon Musk. I posses brahmin title but still I am not brahmin I am shudra brahmin I don't have qualities of brahmin may be becz our society structure is completly destroyed
The problems is not with the castism or anything the problem is with the mind of people . Where some monkeys just have half knowledge and believe on so called truth of some other person or do not go to the root of the problems the question and start dancing on the rhythm of others . They believe on what they are been told or what they have listen from others rather then researching the facts . I do not believe on the things when I don't have all the information from both sides . Everything has a reason and no one is insane to do the things without any goal or reason . The problems is sir we Indians have a severe trust issues with our people or the things realted to our people but on the other side we easily put our trust on some outsiders. And if there are something wrong with the things people here just think that there duty is just to complaint they satisfy there ego there pride by giving a feeling that they just raised there voice about injustice ( right to complaint) not to change. Dumb mind slaves if you are so informed that there is something wrong why can't you take a step to change it rather then shouting and barking . I am not saying you to change the world change that wrong part and embrace the right .
i am currently in class 10th and it's almost 2 years ago that i was in class 8th the class 8th NCERT history text book refers our indian education as piece of trash that britishers modernised our edcation system and made significant reforms and provided real education.....the book mentioned that children were taught under a tree and all age groups studied together and the education given was equal to nothing and india was also nothing.....atleast our teacher told us this only.... the whole ch. was praising reforms brought because of colonisation and after 2 years still it hurts me that NCERT books contains such rubbish
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Sir I want to ask that does India has any apprehension against QUAD becoming a NATO like organisation i.e a military organization which will have provisions like article 5 of NATO. That will be a guarantee that India will not be having a significant problem in dealing with china.
In Tamil literature Tradition we have many female poets. And these people were not Brahmnins nor were their readers. Thirukural is one example of a book that is read and spoken of during the course of our history until today. How all these tamil people could read when education was limited to Brahmins? And I am pretty sure same applies to Telugu, Bengali and all other Indian languages with a tradition of written texts.
#AskAbhijit Sir have you seen the recent video of Pastor conducting Christian prayers inside Gangavaram Ram Temple? Do you believe this is some kind of alert for Hindus to control Christian missionaries?
I disagree.If the education was available to all members of society why were the shudras in majority when they could have easily used the education to promote themselves in varna hierarchical order. People give example of vedvyasa and valmiki to strengthen their claims but forget that they were son of maharishis and were products of anuloma marriages. I couldn't find any example ( with proof) of a person who belonged to shudra varna and ascended the varna order to become a brahmin.
@@anantchandak9574 Wealth has got nothing to do here. His guru taught him because he also belonged to the Brahman varna. Had he been a Shudra or an untouchable no on would have batted an eye on him.
@@PrimordialDeity5636 lol. have you read the full story he become bharmin after education he was born as a shatriya his father abundant him and through him to a village in which everybody say him as "uske pass mat jana vo ashubh hai uske paida hote sath uski ma swargvas kar gae, uske pita roggrasth ho gae" everyone see him as a ashubh person (haan is samay mughals the or cast system aagaya tha. excess log cast system mante the par tulsidas ke guru nahi) then his guru come and then he give him education note: that BHARMIN doesn't know that tulsidas belong to shatriya family same with a other jaganath bhakt women jiske ghar bhagvan khichdi khanne aate the OR VO SHUDRA THI ek mandir hai jaha ke bharmin ne shudra ko ander aane nahi diya tha 1400 ad me tabh vo shudra mandir ke pichhe jake hare krishna hare ram japne laga US MANDIR KI DIWAL PICHHE SE TUTI OR MURTI GHUM GAE OR US BHAKT KO DARSHAN DIYE AAJ BHI VO MURTI VAISI HI HAI VEDO ME KAHI NAHI LIKHA KI SHUDRA KO DISCRIMINATE KARO tu bhi to shudra hai. kya tera ek buisness hai? kya tu army me hai? kya tu bhakt hai? agar buisness hota to vaishya hota, army me hota to shatirya or bhakt hota to bharmin har ek bachha shudra hota hai ab vo cahhe kisika bhi beta ho varna jo hai vo 21-25 sal ke bad decide hota hai janam se nahi chal ek bat bata. kya tune 1000ad ke phele kahi bhi cast system ka nam suna hai manusmriti edit ki gae hai iski carving bhi hai ki ek british lawyer ne edit ki thi 1901 me
@@anantchandak9574 Here you go: 1)His parents were Hulsi and Atmaram Dubey. Most sources identify him as a Sanadhya Brahmin of the Bharadwaj Gotra (lineage), although some sources claim he was a Kanyakubja or Saryupareen Brahmin. 2)I haven't heard about the story of the jagan nath, will need to look into it, but I have heard the other story(the one you mention where shudras were barred from entering). BUT WHAT DOES THESE INCIDENTS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I CLAIMED? 3)OK I agree that there was no rigid(birth based varna system in india) in vedas BUT a religion-based caste system was perpetuated by Hindus. It's found in one of the principal Upanishads of Hinduism - Chandogya Upanishad. Here is what Chandogya Upanishad 5.10.7 says, " Among them, those who did good work in this world [in their past life] attain a good birth accordingly. They are born as a brahmin, a kshatriya, or a vaishya. But those who did bad work in this world [in their past life] attain a bad birth accordingly, being born as a dog, a pig, or as a casteless person. " Not only is it saying that Caste is by birth as a result of works from previous birth, it's also making an assertion of good and bad births. I do not care whether it is written in this book or the other, the problem is how come it is mentioned in a text which was supposed to be religious. 4)You can easily find the evidences in scripturess like mahabharat, for instance Eklavya ( a Nishad ). Mahabharat is supposed to be 5,000 year old so it easily passes your prior to 1000 ad test. 5) You claim that Manusmriti have been edited. The burden of presenting a compelling evidence lies upon you. Provide at-least a citation which proves your point. If you do not have an authentic source than atleast provide the citation to the original unaltered Manusmriti.
The cast discrimination exists that time and also today's time...as we can see a great jyotiba fule and savitri bai fule and also Dr.B.r. ambedkar..they are dalits..lower caste people..who need to educate themselves and their people too..and fought against this castisam...so sir my question is why they fight...coz brahmins are great but in ancient time..not now..they do anything to stop on these lower caste people...i found a proof..that bal ganga dhar tilak..who was brahmin..he done anything to stop jyotiba fule and him wife..why they do..bcoz dalits are not humans..they haven't right education..
I don't know why teenagers are seeing, kachha badam , they should see Abhijit sir videos at least they can get some knowledge ☹️😀❤️❤️
It's not completely their fault they are constantly affected by western standards and don't have subtle knowledge about indian history and NCERT is the major cause of it.
No lot of teenagers like me watch Abhijit sir channel
I'm a teen and watching this 😁
Kyoki kaccha badam mst hai ushkey pichey ek science hai ishliye loog dekh rahe hai mage hithey ki tarah
@@bpvineethkrishna9553 mee too
Read 'A Beautiful Tree' By Dharampal as Sir Suggested 🙏.
Thanks for writing it down. Really helpful 🙏
Yes I too recommend it ..... please everyone like this to get into others notice
@@TikluGanguly 🙏
I also commented the same.
Ok means reading British written history
But we are learning it from childhood
‘Brahmins’ would memorise every scripture by heart in the form of mantras, so even if the books are ‘burned’, they’d write it again. Hence, the attacks which continues till date.
when the khilji guy attacked Nalanda, he killed the students and teachers there
Yup that's true. Due to some "foreign" inspiration some of the brahmin community during mid british rule in India started to discriminate against people by their castes. This was the first result of britain's divide and rule policy. This caused hate to stack up in those oppressed people who still continue to hate Brahmins till today. I do apologize for the wrongdoings by our ancestors. But targeting the present community of brahmins is wrong. Yes I do agree that some people in the rural side still do this, but this is outrageous. It's like we should attack UK for their ancestors occupying our land and ostracising muslims because of the malfeasance of their ancestors 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@anirudhsripadakoundinya543 Castism arrived in india with arrival of foreigners. It's not a part of our culture.
@@anirudhsripadakoundinya543 I don't agree with the accusations that Brahmins, at any point in the time, discriminated or persecuted other sections of society. Even in Medieval period, you'll see the Brahmins in the forefront against the social evils prevailing at that period of time. Even during the British, Brahmins were there to fight against the colonialism as well as Christian Missionaries. That's why Missionaries created hell lot of atrocity literature in the last few centuries that even Brahmins themselves feel guilty all the time for some imaginary wrongdoings they supposedly commit. Before British, Brahmins, though poor, were the most respected and admired community by all sections of society.
@Subha PriyaZ that was political reason not jati varna
It can easily debunked Kalidasa was Lakadhara, Vishwamitra was a Kshatriya, Maharsi Valmiki, Raidasa all were considered brahmins gyani and intellectuals and all were from different JATI
Right now we see it from the caste basis but I am sure they didn't even knew what the hell is this caste system.
Exactly. Likewise Pundita Vidwan etc. was a title for anybody who had a masters degree so to speak. That's why you still have those titles in sanskrit studies and classical music and dance which subjects of ancient study have not been destroyed.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 you're right. The word caste is from Portuguese word Casta - the first europeans to come into India and tyrannize the locals. And each wave of Europeans *read the books of their predecssors* before they ventured into this tropical land full of jungles.
So the Germans and British too perpetuated their own idea that there was a "caste system" here!
We don't even have the word "Hindu" anywhere in our scriptures. Not a single place does it say "only these people are ours and those not.." as the Abrahamics do.
@@crypton_8l87 that's why I always try to avoid to used the word Hindu. We are sanatanis not hindus. And TBH no kne knows what exactly happened in Ramayan and Mahabharat time because mahabharat happened 5500 year before and Ramayan happened 9,10 thousands years before so no one claim that they knew what happened at that time. This period is huge and the language, culture, the meaning of may words also changes. Its not necessary that what we are reading today about our history is 💯 true.
Visvkrma was son of a king ...
The thing is when East Asians were comming to India for studies and they were granted permission then definitely all local Indians got education. That's how advanced Bharata education system was .
Temples are Schools in India as exactly said by Sir, and nowhere you find any Stone Inscription barring a sect or clan/caste to either enter or pursue/seek education. This itself exemplifies the egalitarianism prevailed in then society.
Excellent piece!! Want to add a few things - Dharampal was wonderful enough and so his book “Beautiful tree” is publicly available for free download. Next is that, as per the data maintained by British and quoted by Dharampal - one group seems to have been disproportionately behind in getting educated when compared to its population. It’s Muslim women - they are around 0.4% if I remember right. So while Hindu ladies got educated and ensured education for their kids, per data it looks like Muslim women were unfortunately left out and that sort of explains some of their challenges.
That time also think about population of Muslims in bharat... They are in really minority... And it's Vedic education system so how will Muslims will allow to teach their kids in Hindu teaching school... Use some brain... It's common sense
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I am shocked by this discussion!
I have read many texts by Dr. Ambedkar and in his essay Annihilation of Caste which is available freely on the internet, he has with proof and with reference given information regarding how the caste system existed, and all castes were equal, but it was the Brahmins who changed it into a caste hierarchy , where they were above all other castes and the idea of pollution and all came into being and also the Brahmins enclosed their caste, changed it to be based on birth where nobody else could enter or exit any caste and all other castes followed and shudras were left with no option, they had no access to a decent life, forget education. I am not a Dalit but I have read Ambedkar and I am well educated and basically denying the injustice done to the Dalits is the very reason they still deserve reservations!
@MULLO KAA YAMRAJ XI JINPING, XINJIANG =NARK(HELL) I am amazed how confidently you state something you have just heard somewhere from unverified resources.
Ambedkar had knowledge of 9 languages like Hindi, Pali, Sanskrit, English, French, German, Marathi, Persian, and Gujarati.
He might have read Max Muller but it does not mean that he learnt Sanskrit texts from translated versions of Muller’s books !
@MULLO KAA YAMRAJ XI JINPING, XINJIANG =NARK(HELL) so by just stating max muller you assumed that he dont have any knowledge of sanskrit. stop watching shitty videos of the string. i know he has said this in his videos.
@@PositivelyPresent1 Wrong. Ambedkar didn't know Sanskrit. He Confessed it in his own books, Mr Propagandist.
Moreover the Data given by Abhijit Chavda is from Dharampal's The Beautiful Tree and is the BRITISH COLLECTED DATAS. Uun British k kabr pe jaakar Galaa Faado abb.
Plus, Ambedkar was a Political person and a British stoog and never supported freedom movement.
@@46_shivangipandey96 NOPE, he was not a visionary at all.
@@46_shivangipandey96 yeah yeah you have all the knowledge seems like, his reservation thing is making many indians leave india for better opportunities, first accept that, nobody knows in which caste they are going to be born so, still in 2022 crying about that is wrong, it's nobodies fault.
and year by year they are asking for more reservations , if he was a visionary then he would think of things to balance not to tilt power to one side to another, and his mostly quoted MAX MULLAR, i mean comeone, he is quoting a guy who talked about the destruction of indian education system and to impose colonial british slave education system, now you tell if you are fighting for injustice and again you quote things from the people who colonize you how could be that a visionary? and if he doesn't like Hinduism because of caste it's fine it's his opinion, but how can he convert many Hindus ? because he doesn't like? and 2nd thing EVERY COUNTRY MAKES CONSITUTION ON THE BASIS OF THEIR OWN CULTURE AND LIFESTYLE, why do we need a All mix fruit juice constitution which has inspired from many constitutions of the world? i mean come on, and the main thing why did they imposed that constitution to all? doesn't all of us have our own right to know what is being imposed on us?
Visionary thinks about everyone, short sighted thinks about only their past.
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Love live love love love you SIR ...♥️❤️ Love yours videos ... U are my inspiration , My teacher
sir how can we again revive our ancient education system ( blend with modernity , offcourse ) ? plz provide us ur views on It .
By breaking this narrative on brahims, this is literally dividing us, and west also knows that if again people treat brahims like others then all this missionaries will collapse, again everyone will be taught about cultural roots.
By removing the illegal control over Hindu Temples by govt(which is unconstitutional too).
@@vs_3080 Brahmins should behave as Brahmins !
How many Brahmins by Birth are doing works of a Brahmin ?
You can find biggest Goons as well in Brahmin Community in North atleast !
@@DevaEkoNaaraayanah Brahmins should behave like Brahmins, and also every varna should also behave like how they should, but does a person knows that he is going to take a Brahmin birth ?, nobody's knows where and to whom they born before so blaming and pointing is easy, and in any varna bad and goonda people exists, so first learn 1 thing that, person's behaviours are different from their varnas.
Go join politics and do it yourself . I am gonna do it myself. but the first step towards this make India atleast a 10 trillion dollar economy
Madras method was called "école mutuelle " in France copied from the British who themselves copied from Tamil nadu ÉDUCATION SYSTÈME called by BRITISH AS MADRAS METHOD...wherr a student, older, will help younger students..
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If you really believe that then you need to read books by better person instead of watching youtube videos
@@SwiftWarrior07 and I think you need to read books from right sources .... Rather than commenting here your aSs ....
@Alpha minds. Stop this alpha bullshit
@@Priya24-n1z your words are reflecting your manners that you have got, you should relook what you're learning
Valmiki who wrote ramayan was shudra and we respect him
@@PawanRao007 Be a Rao Kamma...
Not need to indulge in these...
Namaste 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🕉️🧿🇮🇳
Yes, Valmiki was Dalit. Even Vyasa was a half-Dalit (his mother was a Dalit). Even Vyasa's wife was Dalit. The compiler of Mahabharat was also a Dalit: Suta Pauranika.
The most famous Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India:
1) Kapila (2250 BCE)
(Kapila invented Decimal numerical system & discovered copper. The concept of Vishnu & Sankhya philosophy were also from Kapila. He came up with concept of 'Karma' and concept of 'Ahimsa').
2) Aitareya Mahidasa (2200 BCE)
(started aranyaka movement. Concept of interconnected world. Emphasis on Truth)
3) Jabali (2100 BCE)
(Atheist & rationalist. He was disciple of Gauthama)
4) Upali (2050 BCE)
(He wrote Buddhist Vinaya after death of Gautams Buddha)
5) Ugrashrava Suta (1975 BCE)
(1st editor & compilor of Mahabharata)
6) Nandikeshwara (1950 BCE) (Shiva worship, Kamasutra)
7) Valmiki (1950 BCE) (Ramayana, 1st poet, family values)
8) Bhaasa (1925 BCE)
9) Shudhraka (Mricchakatika) (1650 BCE)
10) Kalidasa (50 BCE) (Greatest poet of Ancient India)
(I am only mentioning a few, there are many more...)
Half-Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India:
1) Vyasa (2025 BCE) (Author of Mahabharata)
2) Shukha (1975 BCE) (Author of Bhaagavatham)
Dalit Literature:
1) Mahabharata
2) Ramayana
3) Bhagavatham
4) Puraanas
5) Bhaasa's dramas
6) Mricchakatika
7) Kaalidasa's dramas.
Brahmins controlled Education of Ancient India. Dalits controlled folk Entertainment of Ancient India. (Dalits used to be folk singers. Professional actors were mostly Dalits). Both Brahmins & Dalits were able to spread their ideas into society. Most of the modern Hinduism is low caste religion. Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas...etc were all written and propagated mainly by low castes (particularly Dalits). Later, Brahmins made a few additions & deletions. The Brahmin literature was Vedas & Brahmanas & Kalpasutra. Idol worship again was introduced and promoted by low castes. Brahmins did only Yagnas. Shiva, Vishnu, Rama, Krishna, Durga, Lakshmi,....etc are all Gods of low castes. The original Brahminical Gods were Brahma, Indra, Agni, ...etc. You can clearly see many episodes in Bhagavatham & Shiva Puraana were the Brahminical Gods are shown as defeated by the Gods of low castes like Krishna & Shiva. Originally, Yagnas had animal sacrifice as the core aspect of the ritual. Then, Dalit Kapila came up with the concept of 'Karma' and encouraged Ahimsa. Later, Ahimsa was promoted heavily by Jain Gurus (Kshtriyas) around 2200 to 1900 BCE. So, Brahmins deleted Animal Sacrifice from Yagna and became Vegetarians around 1900 to 1800 BCE. Eventually, Yagnas got sidelined completely and replaced by Temples (and idol worship).
Many Dalits lived on the edges of the society. Some Dalits lived in cities in close contact with armorers & weapon-makers, while other Dalits lived near the edges of forest in close contact with tribals. So, when rebellions happened, usually it involved Dalits. Dalit+Tribal was the most successful combo. But, even Dalit+Brahmin worked pretty well (Eg: Chandragupta Maurya + Chaanakya). So, new dynasties (established by rebelling against previous dynasty) were frequently Dalits who were later elevated to a royalty in few generations by Brahmins (who used to be ministers & teachers of royalties). Also, royalties which were removed from power (by a rebellion or invasion) were demoted to Dalit caste.
@@trira1171 where did it go wrong then?
@@Red-wh3ok It was like this only. Whenever any Dalit intellectual became very popular, he (and his clan) was elevated to Brahminhood. Similarly, whenever any Dalit became King, he and his clan were elevated to status of Kshatriya or Rajput. Similarly, defeated Royalty was demoted to Dalit status. Brahmins (who fell out of line) were demoted to Dalit status. This constant social churning has been going on in Indian society.
(This does not mean that caste discrimination did not exist. Caste discrimination existed, but despite that there was a constant social churning in India).
@@trira1171 oh. If caste system represented social hierarchy and it was changable, then its okay, but I don't see it changing nowadays. A brahmin is a brahmin regardless of what he does, same for shudra.
Sir as far as I have read, even in time of sri Chaitanya that is 500 to 600 years from now, in the tolas where Sanskrit was taught, there along with Brahmins different varnas used to study. So clearly there was no discrimination in ancient India about education.
Nahi bhai hamm toh ghatiya log hai ( sarcasm)
Hi Abhijit if we read Dr.Babasaheb Ambedkar's books it shows a very depressing picture of the Indian Caste system.And if there wasn't a divide there would have no need of a such a revolution on a such a huge scale.Cannot undermine the notations of such a learned man ; Mr Ambedkar.Also there were a lot of revolutions for womens right to learning by many such great people.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 varna jati existed but discrimknation was not started by British the word caste might be given by them but education was limited to certain sections of society and not just ambedkar there is enough evidence that people used to follow duties of their own varnas
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 Why Parashuram asked Karna his varna?
Dr. Bhim Ambedkar was wrong about caste system. He was brainwashed by the communist author books. His revolution ended up harming Bharat. This is why Bhim Ambedkar is not worth praising.
#AskAbhijit Sir day by day my curiosity is increasing to know more about our history , I wish our history teacher could teach like you ! My question is - Don't you think we should have a committe to check all the fake propaganda done by britishers? Even today we blindly follow those "so called" propaganda done by britishers and teach false history to our youth .....
*They made us poor and very , very cleverly narrated false stories and blamed us totally for the situation*
Sir , I don't know why but my feeling for western people is developing like *"DOGS AND WESTERNS AREN'T ALLOWED"*
Koyililla uril kudiyerathe" said Mother Saint Auvaiyar that means "do not live in places there is no mandir or hindu KOVIL in tamil
Very well said. Yes India was the most educated country in the world - but not the kind of skill deveopment education we mistake it for. Real eduction is the discovery of the self which India still excels in. Occupational education was imparted basis "vrittis' or aptitudes and hence the progression of those skills were mostly familial and fell into "srenis". It was the most authentic and scienfitic culture till date. Not like today's "education" where they teach you to get a job or follow trends.
Couldn't agree with you more
Sir, I really admire ur work...🙏
Due to distortion and divisions by invaders everyone looted and claimed whatever they laid their hands upon, so those section had their eyes upon temples an exploited other varnas, it's not like exploitation existed before that, but due to sudden collapse of country culture everyone turned against their own men and started robbing people with their own idealogy which didn't exist previously, no Brahmin ever tried to disregard any person expect inin the past two centuries where they themselves have no knowledge of what's right or wrong.
Brahmins preserved all the top notch education captivated in Mantras . It is the truth .
Sir what's your thoughts about tajmahal and lal qila as some peoples are claiming these monuments is belongs to ancient india but the Turkish people invaded india and they claimed that these monuments are built by turkish invador i am confused ...
We should challenge woke University of California system to introduce reservations for African Americans and others under-represented communities. Affirmative Action is not enough reparation for the crimes of slavery and discrimination that continues to this day. A 50 percent quota sounds like a good start. Who is in?
No.. I completely disagree.. reservation is a concept that totally destroys meritocracy..
Also instead of fighting to remove reservation in India why are you trying to fight for something in the US.. let them deal with it themselves.. reservation is destroying Indian education system.. why are you trying to destroy some other country's education system
Also why 50 percent reservation for a community which is just 13 percent of the US population
Also if you look at the statistics.. black American women have the highest college education percentage of all ethnical groups in America.. so I don't see the point of reservation
@@nimishpadhye3074 He was being sarcastic. He called it woke lol!!
Sounds like what China did to their minorities
Make a video on castism history
Also if possible do podcast with Ranveer on this topic
Ranbeer is a secular hypocrite
But in Mahabharat, dronacharya denied to give education to Eklavya just because of his caste.
And Manusmriti is biggest DATA that shudra should not pursue education.
Ekalvya was NOT denied due to his caste. Other Reasons behind it. Read the Mahabharata book, DO NOT just blabber here by watching 5minute Video about Mahabharata book.
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 it was due to the fact that he is the son of the king from enemy nation, but the division kinda existed which increased as time passed due to increasing ego of so called bramhins
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 sis no I respect bramhins , I said you don't become a bramhin if you are just from lineage of Brahmins, I was taunting the majority of these lineage bramhins who were living off from their ancestors success and gaining ego. A true bramhin never discriminates a person by his blood he possess or the work the person does.
#AskAbhijit is there anything negatives about our ancient culture and civilization.
@Devil's Logic lmao
@Devil's Logic are you brainwashed?
Bhartiya sanskrit was perfect
Can you imagine a servant sending a prince to jungle in any other country? No but lord ram was exiled and he never was unhappy he didnt feel bad such is our lord ram 🙏🏼
@@saloni2244 🤡🤡 ok sir
@@saloni2244 you proved you are a joke 🤣
Love from Bengal
Well said 👍🏼
Tribhuwan Singh has done amazing work on this topic, abhijit ji you must look at his work.
Amazing Information as always 😃😃
There was education through the church and then through the army, not to mentioned the rich would also have private education for their children. I suppose Universities is where formal education really took off and became powerful as a cultural force. Also, what about libraries?
Formal education for everyone in society was only done once countries figured out they were stronger with a more educated population, otherwise the elite will stay educated while keeping the others out. In the US, it was common in rural areas up until the mid 1900s to stop school at 8th grade so you could start work on the farm, basic education really.
what ever you have said might be true, but why still people aren't ready accept us(Dalits) in this society equally. I don't know what happens in other places but I stay in Odisha in a village and this so called caste system is very much prevalent. We can't open hotels where people can eat, we can't open grocery stores etc. some barber shops hesitate for us to have a haircut from there. And this I am speaking todays scenario. I am not blaming them because it normally happens in rural areas where literacy rate is very low. How can we address this issue.
We can address this issue by education and urbanisation because I have seen that in villages discrimination is there but in cities I don't find it anywhere, there might be some but I have not seen it personally nor any of my known people , what happens is when we are uneducated then people seems to discriminate a lot ,its not just in India but everywhere.
@@abhishekpatel2168 yes brother I had studied in banglore for almost 7 years, I have never faced any such things there
You guys have reservations in government job try that...... this is what your leader arranged for you
@@learningrecreation2824 It's not merely for job it's for equal participation in society as a whole
@@Maverick11021 equality in reservation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. ...... I have no sympathy for reserved category people because one person got admission in master degree with 50% and i didn't after 85%..😅
#AskAbhijit Sir, can you please suggest best author or books which gives the most accurate translation of Vedas and Upnishads.
Thank you for making our generation aware about the beautiful history of India and busting myths.
I don't think Abhijit ji has even tried to read any of the things which are even close to what you have mentioned.
Sir.. why there was untouchability.. from where it starts..
नमस्कार भाऊ😊
#askabhijit Why do some of the symbols found in keezhadi resembles with the symbols of Harappan Civilization ? Are they similar people's ? Or some set of people's migrated from north to south after or at the downfall time of Harappan Civilization ? Like some old texts refer that Agastya came down south with 11 set of people's/kings from North around or after the time of downfall of Harappa civilization.
Shri Abhijit Chavda,pls make a video on How India can achieve arms and ammunition freedom and parameters required to build a prospering private arms industry in India.
#AskAbhijit
Sir, why isn't Indian Govt. internationally highlighting Pakistani oppression in Occupied Balochistan
Indian government does not interfere in other countries internal matter.
@@kunwarsamratwatts9056 Then y is Pakistan, China, Turkey and other pro-pak countries are continuously interfering in the Kashmir issue
Abhijit sir's accent on Brahiminical .......is LOL
Satyemev Jayate
Brilliantly explained sir🙏
See Dr.Ambedkar he was opposed to drinking water. Thanks to the British government he got admission to School. Education Discrimination Is true. Education is available to common Indian people after 1950. Caste system should be stop.
Sir this is all okay but what about Mr.Ambedkar and discrimination he faced.Shed some light on it too.
#AskAbhijit Sir my question is that Sir whenever I take money or documents or any other thing from my left hand then everyone shouts me and say pick from right hand also once in my examination when teacher was giving question paper he said take it from right hand...Sir I m really irritated by this as its our own body part given by God so how could it be SUBH or ASUBH whether it is left or right hand or something else...pls ans sir🙁
Sad reality
There is a clear reason for that atleast in the Indian context.
Firstly, in India, as our culture is based on ethics, hygiene, harmony with nature, compassion, respect for all living beings, humility, plurality in perception leading to unity in diversity, and sustainable living. So, majority of the sayings or concepts transferred orally are based on the underlying culture... And over a period of time the knowledge behind the practices is lost in history, but the practice remains. Not all practices but majority of them.
Coming to the Left hand thing, historically it was a hygeine thing. We use Left hand for cleaning and so, we can't use the same hand for social eating, or handling things in social interactions.... As using the same hand used for cleaning is unhygienic if we use it for eating (causing infection in our body) , or handling things in social interactions (transferring germs to others, similar to How Covid has spread rapidly through contact surfaces touched by the infected). So, it was adviced to use only the hygeinic right hand for social interactions, handling things and eating. Even in today's age, if the handwashing is not done properly the risk if infection is still there will the left hand. This is the primary reason.
Secondly, if we see through the "respect for everything and everyone" aspect of our culture, then using our dominant hand for interacting with people or important objects, is a gesture, which is a sign of respect, (as we are consciously choosing our dominant hand to interact with that person or an object). It shows our humility and respect for others or that specific object we are holding, through this gesture. If we are using our non-dominant hand to interact with someone, that means we are giving them lower priority, i,e., we are not showing any respect.
Of course the same thing applies to the lefties, if they use their right hand for cleaning, then they have to use their dominant left hand for social interactions, handling things.
I totally understand why you felt that way. But there are many traditions and customs which we just blindly follow, but majority of them have a proper reason behind those practices. If the reason behind those practices is a reasonable one and a legitimate one, then there is only benefit for us in it, and there is no harm in following it as well.
#AskAbhijit How did untouchability and practice of untouchability came to be in India?
Since You asked .
Most of modern Hindu families of upper castes are from Afganisthan pakistan region . (they had migrated maybe during Gupta period or before and after that . ) like my surname is Shrivastava (Which means inhabitants of swat river in Present day pakistan ) . You know Panini he was born in Present day afganisthan . Infact whole central India wasn't part of Hinduism because It has Gond and Many Tribal kingdoms . And about South , then where their is better resources , Hindus go and settled there . Like Maha , Tamil naidu , Odisha etc .
Now comes the main part . Tribes of Central india and (Jungles of Bihar jharkand , telengana , karnataka and andhra pradesh ) were Homelands to Tribal population to a larger extent . Like here Jabalpur (MP ) is a Gond kingdom even after British invasion till 1700s or early 1800s .
Since These tribes do not cook food , but more or less rely on Animal , meat products as well as heavily depends on Huntering Unlike Those of Us who lived in Colder region of Afganisthan pakistan where their is enough Resources +Water so we mostly were Vegetarians and from then on their is a debate about Nonveg vs Veg .
This Debate led to Start of the untouchability as Tribes are mostly Hunters and since. Many of our ancestors see Hunting a crime They Doesn't want to live among them . That's why These Tribes lived Outside villages (Same like how Gypcies still live in Europe ) . Then their is Ethical and moral debates , Crimes commited by Tribes , like Looting , etc as well as invasions of Muslims which too create Problems . Maybe during such times (Due to anger against Muslims as well as These tribes association with Them /or being nonveg , or else not able to merge with Hindus create more problems for both of us ) .
That's why if you are from (Central India like me ) there is Least problem faced by Lower castes by Upper castes (Dispite the fact that they Still discriminate amoung one another themselves ). But when I moved to Delhi for coaching I noticed much Discrimination of my Lower caste friend in trains after His surname is found out by travellers . One aunty was Chatting with him whole time till i woke up . Then she happen to ask about Our names in case we need any help in Delhi . When He mentioned his name , Look in her face is different . Infact when we reached the station She asked Me (Despite the fact that i was in no mood to talk to her in whole journey )and not him . Similarly I feel same thing when i visited Bihar , One of my friend (Saket dewangan ) and I purchased Chips and we eat it with Some bihari friends of my another Friend .Now since They live in Bihar when they know about Saket , They literally avoid eating chips from packet . (initially i thought WTF , then One of them asked me Why are you eating with him ) .
Same also happened with BR AMBEDKAR , REMEMBER his father was In army madhya pradesh , His family doesn't feel discrimination here . But as soon as his father died And family moved to Maharastra (Their own home town ) all of a sudden Discrimination starts ) .
So maybe Tribals and We are different , Maybe we doesn't able to mend properly and due to this we have problems . This doesn't mean they were Historically Oppressed like Blacks in US (Modern woke Intellectual propaganda) .
Because their was not any concept of Slave , And neither There is any kind of Written Set of rules for How To deal with tribes , nor any historic account of such tortures . The problem was We encroached their Jungles and they kindda left behind due to (Less power and fertility , lacks of hygene and prone to Wild animal attacks , reason can be many ) .
Infact My own Family (Atleast upto my grand father )which is born in 1935 there is No exploitation , We happily lived even now in place surrounded by Gonds and Ahirs , My own Aunt is from Lower caste and My Grand father and mother had no problem with Her infact She served them till their last breadth .
I don't understand why the fuss about education? Not everyone needed to mug up shlokas for their work. Traders , artisans learnt vocationally. We should think how many people does so called education benefits even today .
Well what about shudras
@@varun2652 they were the artisans , sculptors etc
Whatever I studied isnt important to me education is over glorified ! Instead of spending lakhs on BTEch degree we can open a kirana shop with that money
Padh likh kr naukar banke naukri krne se far better hai
@@saloni2244 Too much unnecessary education is causing unemployment. Kabhi kisi ancient time ki book mein padha hai ki berozgari ki problem ho ? Nhi. Sab kuch na kuch karna jante the aur karte the.
#Askabhijit What was Goa's history before the Portuguese rule ? What was its essence in our ancient culture
But even today in many villages certain people who belong to a certain cast are not allowed inside the temple, so this must have been a practice since centuries right?
kindly explain this sir
bigg fan..
My friend just file RTI and ask in which year was 1st caste discrimination noted.
You prediction doesn't work. Data Collected by British themselves says what's Abhijit sir said is correct.
In dwarka, gujarat, the temple education is still present
In Mahabharat it is shown that Karan was denied education because of his caste
* denied only Bow arrow education...
And also Mahabharat can not be used as a template to judge and generalize people. It was the dark period of the nation and period of political turmoil and corruption.
Wrong he was denied the knowledge of astras. Karna had 3 teachers dronacharya, kripacharya, bhgwan parshuram
@@viralbajpai8027 yeah I too agreed.. cool
@@raunakshetty5924 that's good my brother read Mahabharata. Don't get knowledge from TV serials they are just there for trp
Bharat Mata Ki Jai
The question is was it a free choice or based on lineage? Do we have proof that it was a free choice?
मैं एक गर्वित गर्वीली हिन्दू सनातनी हूँ ।would be ऋषिका।।।jaii माँ भवानी।
#AskAbhijit sir pls bring more content about manusmritis and cattle sacrifice to devi Maa
Why should he bring cant you know by your self
@@Balaji_design_studio nhi
You seem to be an excellent intellect, I also feel same for academia
This society even hates the term brahmin and Hinduism
The most famous Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India:
1) Kapila (2250 BCE)
(Kapila invented Decimal numerical system & discovered copper. The concept of Vishnu & Sankhya philosophy were also from Kapila. He came up with concept of 'Karma' and concept of 'Ahimsa').
2) Aitareya Mahidasa (2200 BCE)
(started aranyaka movement. Concept of interconnected world. Emphasis on Truth)
3) Jabali (2100 BCE)
(Atheist & rationalist. He was disciple of Gauthama)
4) Upali (2050 BCE)
(He wrote Buddhist Vinaya after death of Gautams Buddha)
5) Ugrashrava Suta (1975 BCE)
(1st editor & compilor of Mahabharata)
6) Nandikeshwara (1950 BCE) (Shiva worship, Kamasutra)
7) Valmiki (1950 BCE) (Ramayana, 1st poet, family values)
8) Bhaasa (1925 BCE)
9) Shudhraka (Mricchakatika) (1650 BCE)
10) Kalidasa (50 BCE) (Greatest poet of Ancient India)
(I am only mentioning a few, there are many more...)
Half-Dalit intellectuals of Ancient India:
1) Vyasa (2025 BCE) (Author of Mahabharata)
2) Shukha (1975 BCE) (Author of Bhaagavatham)
Dalit Literature:
1) Mahabharata
2) Ramayana
3) Bhagavatham
4) Puraanas
5) Bhaasa's dramas
6) Mricchakatika
7) Kaalidasa's dramas.
Brahmins controlled Education of Ancient India. Dalits controlled folk Entertainment of Ancient India. (Dalits used to be folk singers. Professional actors were mostly Dalits). Both Brahmins & Dalits were able to spread their ideas into society. Most of the modern Hinduism is low caste religion. Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas...etc were all written and propagated mainly by low castes (particularly Dalits). Later, Brahmins made a few additions & deletions. The Brahmin literature was Vedas & Brahmanas & Kalpasutra. Idol worship again was introduced and promoted by low castes. Brahmins did only Yagnas. Shiva, Vishnu, Rama, Krishna, Durga, Lakshmi,....etc are all Gods of low castes. The original Brahminical Gods were Brahma, Indra, Agni, ...etc. You can clearly see many episodes in Bhagavatham & Shiva Puraana were the Brahminical Gods are shown as defeated by the Gods of low castes like Krishna & Shiva. Originally, Yagnas had animal sacrifice as the core aspect of the ritual. Then, Dalit Kapila came up with the concept of 'Karma' and encouraged Ahimsa. Later, Ahimsa was promoted heavily by Jain Gurus (Kshtriyas) around 2200 to 1900 BCE. So, Brahmins deleted Animal Sacrifice from Yagna and became Vegetarians around 1900 to 1800 BCE. Eventually, Yagnas got sidelined completely and replaced by Temples (and idol worship).
Many Dalits lived on the edges of the society. Some Dalits lived in cities in close contact with armorers & weapon-makers, while other Dalits lived near the edges of forest in close contact with tribals. So, when rebellions happened, usually it involved Dalits. Dalit+Tribal was the most successful combo. But, even Dalit+Brahmin worked pretty well (Eg: Chandragupta Maurya + Chaanakya). So, new dynasties (established by rebelling against previous dynasty) were frequently Dalits who were later elevated to a royalty in few generations by Brahmins (who used to be ministers & teachers of royalties). Also, royalties which were removed from power (by a rebellion or invasion) were demoted to Dalit caste.
Hey! Those are some interesting takes . Could you suggest some source materials for the same? I would like to dig into it myself . Thanks!
WTF are you talking dude? I doubt you have read anything, you are just copying and pasting here. 🤬,
where did it mentioned that brahmin gods were defeated by low caste gods like, Krishna, shiva and others?
Guys he is just labelling things with low caste and upper caste shit. Not all what he has written is true.
does not make sense and the dates do not add up. As per this write up, hinduism is only 4000 years old. But in reality it is close to 14000. Surya Siddantha was written over 6000 years ago, which would date further back than 2250 BCE which is the oldest date in the above write up. Also I am not convinced that something called a "Dalit" even existed back then. It was just the 4 Varnas. If the claim is that the last varna is "Dalit" then it needs to be backed with proof. As per this post, varna was by birth and not actions. But in reality varna changed based on what one did and not birth. It was so even 500 years ago. The Mughal and British genocide of hindus changed that because populations were decimated and they destroyed our systems of varna and education based on which the varna decision was made. Also this writeup still propagates the "upper caste" and "lower caste" myth, which is what it is ... a myth. Is the wheel of the car any more "lower" than the engine ? without the wheel or the engine or the chassis the car is not going anywhere. So there is no meaning in the above post which claims that there were "upper caste" gods and "lower caste" gods. Hear what Sadhguru says and you will understand things properly.
@@siddharthawarwade4902 It is based on my 15 yrs of research into ancient Indian history.
The sources I have used are:
a) Mahabharata
b) Puraanas
c) Ramayana
and other such ancient Indian literature.
@@amoghvc
1) About the dates:
a) Human Civ began in India (near Saraswathi River) in 2500 BCE. 4500 yrs ago. All the dates (earlier than 2500 BCE) given by everyone else for human Civ are wrong.
b) Around 2300 BCE: Some groups of Indians migrated to Iraq and started the Assyrian Civilization. Other Indian groups migrated to Ganga Valley.
c) Around 2100 to 2000 BCE: Saraswathi River dried up. So, there was a largescale migration from North West India to Ganga Valley, South India, Iraq, Iran and Egypt. (Egyptian Civ began in 2100 BCE). The first Jews migrated to Iraq from India around 2100 BCE.
(Abraham -> Brahma
Sara -> Saraswathi River
Hagar -> Ghaggar River)
d) Around 1925 BCE, there was a massive earth quake in North West India which caused a tsunami which drowned the island of Dwarka. The people of Dwarka died. People of coastal Gujarat (Saurashtra) migrated to Iran, Iraq, UP and South India. (2nd Batch of Jews migrated from India to Iraq at this time. The word Juda comes from Yadu).
2) About caste status:
a) Varna system was just a guideline type. The actual system that was followed was Jaathi. And Jaathi system was based on birth by default.
b) Was there a Jaathi based discrimination in ancient India? Yes, there was Jaathi based discrimination in Ancient India. The episode of Karna in Mahabharata represents this discrimination. (Was untouchability practiced in Ancient India? It was practiced sometimes in some areas against certain Jaathis. Untouchability trend was on and off).
c) Did Dalit caste exist in Ancient India? The Dalit name did not exist in ancient India, but Dalit caste existed in Ancient India. In the initial days (around 2300 to 1800 BCE), Dalits were known as 'Dasas'. There are many people who had a sirname of 'Dasa' in Ancient India. They were all Dalits. 'Dasyus' are mentioned in Vedas.
d) Was Ancient Indian caste system fluid? Was it possible for people to intermarry or for one caste to be elevated or demoted in social status? Yes. Firstly, different castes had their spheres of influence. There were many areas were Dalits were powerful. Infact, there were many Dalit Empires and Kingdoms in the Ancient India. So, it was possible for Dalits to enforce their own rules in many places in different timeperiods in Ancient India. After 2 or 3 generations, a Dalit dynasty would get elevated into a Kshtriya varna. Similarly, a defeated Kshtriya dynasty would get demoted to Shudra Varna.
e) Sadhguru is good for Spirituality, not history...
3) About the Gods:
a) Brahminical Gods were: Brahma, Indra, Agni, Vayu, ...etc.
b) Brahminical Ritual was: Yagnya.
c) Animal Sacrifice was core part of Yagnya.
d) Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Rama, Durga...etc worship was started by low castes and propagated by low castes.
e) Brahminical Literature: Vedas, Kalpasutras, Dharmashastras, ...etc.
f) Low caste Literature: Mahabharata, Ramayana, Puraanas, Dramas, ....etc.
Upanishads were also non-Brahmin literature (in some ways, it was anti-Brahmin literature because Upanishads sidelined the Braminical rituals and laid emphasis on philosophy and self-enlightenment).
Finally, I dont believe in any caste being upper or lower. I am just saying that these things were practiced in history. Anyway, I am not saying that some caste were always upper caste and other castes were always lower castes. Infact, I am saying that while the caste discrimination existed in smaller timeframe (100 yrs), but, in longer timeframe (like 500 to 1000 yrs), Indian caste system was very fluid. Upper castes were demoted to lower caste status and lower castes were elevated to upper caste status. So, almost all castes suffered at some point under the wheel of caste discrimination in the long run (4500 yrs).
I like the mindset behind these answers, off course we shouldn't see ourselves or our culture, history from the point of view of western world but the truth is Caste system was and is a sad reality in India.
I am from Uttar Pradesh(lucknow) and even here in the city one can clearly see the difference between education and living standards among people of different castes.
In my college Kkv almost every head of department since the college is established was an upper caste person.
Even today 80% staff is of general category because most of the education institutions are owned by upper caste peoples and because they are much more educated in comparison to lower class peoples.
In my village even I have seen people of low caste treated badly in government schools.
Even Ambedkar faced a lot of trouble in getting education only because he was from lower caste. These are all live and practical examples so don't just blindly follow any stupid idea that says everything is good...we were all saints.
Clearly he is biased here
#AskAbhijit What will happen if Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj was present now?
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Jaby Koay definitely needs to react to this, He was having confusion about this topic after reacting to a another Video !!!
Book THE BEAUTIFUL TREE by Dharampal gives detailed account of schools, teachers and students with caste. It is from Btitish records. Data shows that people from all castes were part of system. Popular media stories are junk.
All the Vedas were taught only to certain genius like persons as memorizing everything is not possible for normal persons. Also educating all in one line is not required. People were educated their own trades and these trades were supported so that everyone had necessary incomes. All people who ever was inclined were taught sastras and vedas. No discrimination. Later when the invaders spiked spoiled original systems, only, Brahmins stuck to vedas and kept these alive. Even now education is given to anyone who is interested both men and women.
If we were so civilized people and were so much educated what was jyotirao phule savitribai phule was doing!!? What was the struggle all about.. !! Why untouchability existed n still existing in vishwaguru Bharat!!!??
Reform happens when we accept our flaws , romanticising even our bad deeds won't lead to anywhere..
This shows how educated you really are what happened after the British entered India is different from what it was pre-britsih era, yes Our society have all those things after British came here no denying that but sir before it was not the case so plzz don't mix both of them and read what British themselves said about Indian Education system
@@greatsir43 I am eager to read Mr dharampal ji .. how ever to reject everything written by all other historians and level them as westernised , this is nothing more than sensationalization. This person's stand is close to RSS, he doesn't believe in constitution neither has any empathy towards our freedom struggle...
@@greatsir43 British just took advantage of the division that already existed in Indian society,they didn't create it. Don't insult people just because you are brainwashed or trying to brainwash others.
@@udaysheoran5433 Dumbo, read what is written in the Book the data was collected by the British themselves...and then make your argument, don't try to be too smart here no one is talking without facts and figures. British didn't divide this country 😂😂then form whom did they bring divide and rule policy... I think according to you for British themselves 😂.. study something that will me beneficial for you... From Munro Report of 1820 to the first census of India read how they divided people into different ridiculous caste according to skin, nose etc...read how they destroyed our indigenous education system and forcefully applied there Macaulayan education system by destroying Gurukuls... Arguing without facts here shows what mindset you carry mentally colonized Dumbo.
People talk about castesium by birth in India...if that's the case then how come a kashyap gotra is there in Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vasya....I'm a Rajput and I have friends of my gotra as a Brahman, Vasya...Don't have evidence about shudras but as told by my Father and his forefathers that a gotra can have many castes...let me tell you what gotra is..it tells you who your forefather was ...Mine was Raja Kashyap who later on became a Rishi and established Kashmir Valley
True mine is bharadwaj
I m kashmiri Hindu( brahmin ) gotra kashyap
I know Dalits with Vashishta Gotra.
Sir what are your views on description of caste system in Manusmriti.
Caste is a Portugese origin word. Indian languages were particular about use of words. Varna and Jati in ancient times cannot be conflated with the modern Caste of today which has been a product of colonial thinking and which Indians have sadly internalized
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Sir I am 15-16 year old boy and hugely inspired by you speeches and debates and the way you tell to conquer. I wanted to have have vedik and upanishad knowledge along with CBSE curriculum and ensure you that I will not harm my grades in the process
So, please guide me what initial steps to take in order to be enlightened
You might will not read but if reading please consider replying as it means a lot to me
Thank You
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Hi
If u think brahmin patriachy didn't existed then can u explain why did jinniyah (jinnah) former leader of muslim league converted to Islam🤔
Thank you this video sir
One thing to remember before industrial revolution education doesn't mean much, there are illiterate kings/ emperor like Akbar/Charlemagne
#AskAbhijit Then why lord ram killed a shudra saint named shambuk on his caste who was doing mediation and who was interested in learning veda ,whose story is mentioned in Valmiki ramayana, uttar kanda ,sargas 73 -76.
Stop your false propaganda u communist demon it's not mentioned like that at all
Lord Ram was above any barriers ! He even ate jutha ber of mata sabri
Stop spreading false propaganda against lord ram atleast🙏🏼 tum jese bhadwe paiso k liye bhagwan tak k khilaf sajish krte ho
Uttara Kaanda is a later addition. Its not part of the original Valmiki Ramayana. Valmiki himself was a Dalit.
He was son of shoorpanakha..born as a result of vyabhichaara...He was only faking of learning Vedas not actually learning them..him and his little team wanted to overthrow raama so they did apaprachaara that raama accepted seeta who lost her purity while staying at Lanka and we can also do the same from now... people started gossipping everywhere and raama came to know about this..Later war happened and shambuka got killed in that..
Raama killed him to protect Dharma...Don't see vaidika samskruti in caste perspective...
Raamayana is Veda sandesha in kaavya-itihaasa swaroopa written by vaalmiki Maharshi...puraanaas also have Veda sandesha in them... mahaabharaata too..
Go and read some Veda philosophy to understand kaavya in Vedic perspective..
Mere teacher khte the bharat itna advanced rha tha ek time pe ji jb baki duniya ke logo ko kpde pahane or kya khane kya nhi khane ka bhi idea nhi tha , boli nhi thi koi tb bharat me sanskrit me shlok padhe jate the , education system tha apna litreature tha itna advanced civilization rha h bharat puri duniya se
Ek samay tha jab bharat ki gdp share (in the world's gdp) 32%+ tha aur ek samay aaj hai jab humara gdp share 6.6% hai 😣😥 mulle isaiyon aur humare apne gaddaron ne kitna barbad kiya humare desh ko aur aaj b kr rahe 😣😥
How Academia produces Research?
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Lot of people who are just supporting this British play read a beautiful tree and Chinese pilgrims don't pull dunk from head
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#AskAbhijit - Sir is this book " Sapiens " worth the read ? Does this book really explain how humans have evolved ??
Coming to the so called jati system playing spoilsport with education - one of the greatest scientists of our times Aryabhata (आर्यभट) is so called lower caste. But his work Aryabhateeyam’s commentary was written by another scientist who belonged to the so called higher caste.
Exactly bro we have sudra kings too as mentioned in huen tsung's travelogue
Women take center stage in the temples of Isha Yoga center. Nobody says it's a matriarchal supremacy or some other rubbish. Every person takes different roles in a temple based on their capabilities not their caste or gender or even nationality. But now our temples are under goverment rule. They appoint whoever they want they segregate people into queues based on money because temples are good income for the government. They paint ugly vanish colours on our exquisite carvings. They even allow temple land to be auctioned. #FreeOurTemples
#AskAbhijit Do you think Slavery still exists ?
If you can tell how this modern slavery can be abolished?
Slavery existed in mughal and british era where thesw crooks used to treat indians worse than dirt
What was the role of babasaheb ambedkar in making constitution?he didn't study Indian ancient history and included in constitution?
Hi Sir, I'm just curious to know how can we get to know if any shlokas are made by a woman in Rigveda? #AskAbhijit
Okay but book by upinder singh mentioned all the basis and I believe in that because she is the one who is recognized as professional , not you , her books run all over the country and book have all the details
I want to know timeframe in which actually women were not allowed to study. We know that during modern days, Mahatma Phule started the first school for girls and during Vedic era women were imparted knowledge and we're author of great texts. But why during certain time period they were denied education? #askAbhijit
There is famous saying in our region also (north India) "Jis gaanv me shiv ka mandir nahi wha ka paani bhi nhi peena chahiye "
well said
NCERT and many websites like Byjus and claim that women and shudra were not allowed to read Veda
I really want to raise my voice against it as women always read Vedas and those people who didn't grasp Vedas were Shudras not another way round
#AskAbhijit
I wanted to know why the present day gurukuls don't take admission for girls and other castes
Is it because of the colonial mindset
Yes
These days real Brahmins doesn't exist or they are very rare who have these qualities to whom we called brahmin in today's world. who possess Brahmins titles are actually most of them are shudra brahmin being brahmin is very tough task. Our society is destroyed completly. Brahmins doesn't ask for respect it's a people who give them respect like Elon Musk. I posses brahmin title but still I am not brahmin I am shudra brahmin I don't have qualities of brahmin may be becz our society structure is completly destroyed
The problems is not with the castism or anything the problem is with the mind of people . Where some monkeys just have half knowledge and believe on so called truth of some other person or do not go to the root of the problems the question and start dancing on the rhythm of others .
They believe on what they are been told or what they have listen from others rather then researching the facts . I do not believe on the things when I don't have all the information from both sides . Everything has a reason and no one is insane to do the things without any goal or reason .
The problems is sir we Indians have a severe trust issues with our people or the things realted to our people but on the other side we easily put our trust on some outsiders.
And if there are something wrong with the things people here just think that there duty is just to complaint they satisfy there ego there pride by giving a feeling that they just raised there voice about injustice ( right to complaint) not to change. Dumb mind slaves if you are so informed that there is something wrong why can't you take a step to change it rather then shouting and barking . I am not saying you to change the world change that wrong part and embrace the right .
Communists who bash brahmins unnecessarily for being so called casteist themselves troll modiji as chai wala 😠
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i am currently in class 10th and it's almost 2 years ago that i was in class 8th
the class 8th NCERT history text book refers our indian education as piece of trash that britishers modernised our edcation system and made significant reforms and provided real education.....the book mentioned that children were taught under a tree and all age groups studied together and the education given was equal to nothing and india was also nothing.....atleast our teacher told us this only....
the whole ch. was praising reforms brought because of colonisation
and after 2 years still it hurts me that NCERT books contains such rubbish
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DEAR SIR,
Which are best books to understand the teachings of Vishnugupta Chanakya?
"Arthashastra"
Arthasashtra
Chanakya neeti
@@shubhampawar3652 do you know any writer because so many leftist have written wring texts.
@@justarandomguyontheinterne5911 any specific writer?
Sir I want to ask that does India has any apprehension against QUAD becoming a NATO like organisation i.e a military organization which will have provisions like article 5 of NATO. That will be a guarantee that India will not be having a significant problem in dealing with china.
In Tamil literature Tradition we have many female poets. And these people were not Brahmnins nor were their readers.
Thirukural is one example of a book that is read and spoken of during the course of our history until today. How all these tamil people could read when education was limited to Brahmins?
And I am pretty sure same applies to Telugu, Bengali and all other Indian languages with a tradition of written texts.
Temples were place of education, arts and culture
How were different genders perceived in ancient India ?
#AskAbhijit
Sir have you seen the recent video of Pastor conducting Christian prayers inside Gangavaram Ram Temple? Do you believe this is some kind of alert for Hindus to control Christian missionaries?
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I disagree.If the education was available to all members of society why were the shudras in majority when they could have easily used the education to promote themselves in varna hierarchical order. People give example of vedvyasa and valmiki to strengthen their claims but forget that they were son of maharishis and were products of anuloma marriages. I couldn't find any example ( with proof) of a person who belonged to shudra varna and ascended the varna order to become a brahmin.
i think you didn't see the story of tulsidas
yeah he boarn in rich family but his guru teaches him after seeing him in poor condition
@@anantchandak9574 Wealth has got nothing to do here. His guru taught him because he also belonged to the Brahman varna. Had he been a Shudra or an untouchable no on would have batted an eye on him.
@@PrimordialDeity5636 lol. have you read the full story
he become bharmin after education
he was born as a shatriya
his father abundant him and through him to a village in which everybody say him as
"uske pass mat jana vo ashubh hai uske paida hote sath uski ma swargvas kar gae, uske pita roggrasth ho gae"
everyone see him as a ashubh person
(haan is samay mughals the or cast system aagaya tha. excess log cast system mante the par tulsidas ke guru nahi)
then his guru come and then he give him education
note: that BHARMIN doesn't know that tulsidas belong to shatriya family
same with a other jaganath bhakt women
jiske ghar bhagvan khichdi khanne aate the OR VO SHUDRA THI
ek mandir hai jaha ke bharmin ne shudra ko ander aane nahi diya tha 1400 ad me
tabh vo shudra mandir ke pichhe jake hare krishna hare ram japne laga
US MANDIR KI DIWAL PICHHE SE TUTI OR MURTI GHUM GAE OR US BHAKT KO DARSHAN DIYE
AAJ BHI VO MURTI VAISI HI HAI
VEDO ME KAHI NAHI LIKHA KI SHUDRA KO DISCRIMINATE KARO
tu bhi to shudra hai. kya tera ek buisness hai? kya tu army me hai? kya tu bhakt hai?
agar buisness hota to vaishya hota, army me hota to shatirya or bhakt hota to bharmin
har ek bachha shudra hota hai ab vo cahhe kisika bhi beta ho
varna jo hai vo 21-25 sal ke bad decide hota hai janam se nahi
chal ek bat bata. kya tune 1000ad ke phele kahi bhi cast system ka nam suna hai
manusmriti edit ki gae hai
iski carving bhi hai ki ek british lawyer ne edit ki thi 1901 me
@@anantchandak9574 Here you go:
1)His parents were Hulsi and Atmaram Dubey. Most sources identify him as a Sanadhya Brahmin of the Bharadwaj Gotra (lineage), although some sources claim he was a Kanyakubja or Saryupareen Brahmin.
2)I haven't heard about the story of the jagan nath, will need to look into it, but I have heard the other story(the one you mention where shudras were barred from entering). BUT WHAT DOES THESE INCIDENTS HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT I CLAIMED?
3)OK I agree that there was no rigid(birth based varna system in india) in vedas BUT a religion-based caste system was perpetuated by Hindus. It's found in one of the principal Upanishads of Hinduism - Chandogya Upanishad. Here is what Chandogya Upanishad 5.10.7 says, " Among them, those who did good work in this world [in their past life] attain a good birth accordingly. They are born as a brahmin, a kshatriya, or a vaishya. But those who did bad work in this world [in their past life] attain a bad birth accordingly, being born as a dog, a pig, or as a casteless person. " Not only is it saying that Caste is by birth as a result of works from previous birth, it's also making an assertion of good and bad births.
I do not care whether it is written in this book or the other, the problem is how come it is mentioned in a text which was supposed to be religious.
4)You can easily find the evidences in scripturess like mahabharat, for instance Eklavya ( a Nishad ). Mahabharat is supposed to be 5,000 year old so it easily passes your prior to 1000 ad test.
5) You claim that Manusmriti have been edited. The burden of presenting a compelling evidence lies upon you. Provide at-least a citation which proves your point.
If you do not have an authentic source than atleast provide the citation to the original unaltered Manusmriti.
You are just a feel good person 😂
The cast discrimination exists that time and also today's time...as we can see a great jyotiba fule and savitri bai fule and also Dr.B.r. ambedkar..they are dalits..lower caste people..who need to educate themselves and their people too..and fought against this castisam...so sir my question is why they fight...coz brahmins are great but in ancient time..not now..they do anything to stop on these lower caste people...i found a proof..that bal ganga dhar tilak..who was brahmin..he done anything to stop jyotiba fule and him wife..why they do..bcoz dalits are not humans..they haven't right education..
but what started it. cast system started after mughals cause muslim have a cast system actually and they try to impose their idea on US