Viper 700 VS XC 700!! Which One Is Faster??
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- I picked up a sweet 700 viper and thought it would be a contender to smoke our buddy scooters polaris xc 700. his polaris runs strong and we update its look a little bit for him as a Christmas surprise! Merry Christmas and happy new years!! 🍻
those xc/rmk700 twins are legendary
Yes they are !! Just jetting and clutching my piped 2005 700 RMK . In the garage a few hours ago. Heading west in a week! One of the most reliable sleds out their!!
You've got to have good batteries in all your toys. That was priceless Pete.
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I was gonna say the same thing ! did she laughed ? or just embarrased with no comment ? LoL 🤣😂
Ha i just got that now, hook her up to 110 or 220. she'll be happier🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My brother had a Candy Red SXViper 700. That sound, man. Nothing like it. Epic.
A little rocket!!
All that yammie needs is some triple pipes and a she dangles decal. Then its a party❄🍻 Really slick machine. Always liked the looks of those.
Even though the XC won I have a soft spot for those Yamaha triples. I had a SXR 700, SRX 700, and a Viper. Awesome sounding machines and very reliable.
Way more reliable than a Polaris. Polaris products are straight up junk.
700sx red heads are legendary
Never would have beat my Viper I raced oodles of XC6,7 and 800’s and never once lost and it was stock with a better track and better clutching. One of the 800’s was owned by a relative was setup by Polaris’s legendary Larry Rugland. That Viper is a pooch and not setup properly.
Those older polaris's are weapons. That's why I keep buying em right there baby!
My dad still has his Black and red SXViper 700, such a beautiful machine
I still feel like the lower slung sleds from the past handle very well on smooth trails even today but on bumpy trails that is when your back takes a beating with the older suspensions. The other issue with the old iron was getting them to hook up, they tended to spin and trench a lot.
Your absolutely right the suspension on older sleds 🛷 beat you up and there’s very little support for these old school Polaris machines suspension wise…motors and big bore kits are available but suspension components aren’t
@@fwhiteification I don't think it would be too hard to add a modern rear suspension but the front would need a long arm kit with new shocks longer radius rods longer tie rod ends longer sway bar ends etc... but then your cornering would suffer. I wonder what the max shock length the stock front end of a gen 2 or edge would take?
@@davidbrennan5 i hear ya, I need to find someone in the Northeast to do it and has figured out the right geometry to mount everything up.
Nice old snowmobiles. More reliable than new models when kept well.
Today's technology is mostly wires, and they don't last long in -30°C.
I have the old '98 Mountain SRX 700, with FX Nytro with Excel 3 exhaust and cold air intake, beside it another FX Nytro X-TX.
In tried my XTC 700 triple on an American 1/4 mile radar ( had to pay ) and i topped my speed at half the 1/4 mile at 97 mph ! now it s older so i m sure it can t top that same speed ! Before my XTC i had a SRX 700 and traded it for the XTC i have now ! it s a 1998 in good shape ! I changed the seat, heated handles, track, wheel bearings, carbides, and a few repairs ! it s sleeping in my storage unit in Edmonton but i m back in Quebec ! this spring i wanna get all my stuff from my storage and bring that here so i can ride my sled ! we hsave great trails here ! they say # 1 trails in Canada ! I know a few years ago the trail pass was over 300 $ ! but it s worth it if you use it often ! if you wanna ride 1 or 2 week-end it might be better to bye a week-end pass ! if you don t bye a pass you can get caught ! lots of police on the trails ! they stand at junctions and you don t have a choice ! they check everyone passing there ! alcool is tolerance 0 and no pass well you get a ticket or and need to bye the pass ! 😎🥶
I have a 2002 Viper, love that sled, keep her till I croak. Totally not a Polaris guy, but that wrap looks amazing on that XC!
thanks! 🍻
Just found your channel, Pete. Loving what you do! Great videos!
Thanks buddy, that's awesome to hear from another sled head! same goes for you too man! great videos brother 🍻
Ha so funny seriously Jeremy you too are cut from the same Canadian cloth, bombardier, lol
I've been waiting for you to post a sx viper video! I had the 03 viper and was the best 3 banger I ever owned. it didn't have reverse or electric start or anything. major weight saver for the holeshots! awesome viper you got there brother! happy holidays and new years from Northwest Alaska 👊
merry Christmas and happy new years Alaska 🍻
That viper is a beautiful machine and is mint.
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used to be a guy by the name of Tom Hartman, INC out of Nampa Idaho. He was an older yamaha triple specialist. Unforfunaly he is not in business anymore but while he was, I installed his 136" kit. It came with sprocket, drivers, weights etc.. The Boss seat makes a heck of a difference as well as a 4" riser. Dont forget the 3rd engine mount to keep clutch alignment , that was an OEM option.
The YOMAMA seat cover in the background cracked me up, had to rewind in a "did I just see that?" moment.
lol 🍻
🔥still remember my Neibour had a 98 Xc 700 clutched up and piped and he could just beat any sled back in early 2000’s. Just fast sleds 🔥👊🔥⚙️🔨🏍
Them 98s were rockets
Early build 97s were the best. Had a friend with one that was beat to f
@@MidnightPolaris800 yes they were.. the early builds were tuned to run because it was a all new sled and polaris was letting people test ride them so they wanted them to be fast
This is Fred from Nova Scotia .I have a 2001 Polaris XC 700 and the ZR 800 Cat won't beat my 700 .They are awesome sleds.And I love that wrap.on the XC I would love to get one for mine. Keep the videos coming man.
cheers Fred! 🍻 we might have some wraps available once we get the website up and running
One of the key advantages the XC 700 (and Polaris in general) had over all other brands at the time was clutching. The Polaris clutching was by far the most efficient and dialed-in from the factory of all the brands. Clutching efficiency typically provides far more advantage than modest differences in horsepower. The other factor is traction, and I always found the Polaris rear suspension in those years hooked up better than Yamaha’s did. In short runs, that XC700 is going to be hard to beat with similar HP sleds, but if you run it on the lake for top end, the Viper should easily outrun it, assuming the engine and clutching is in good shape. I own two Vipers, one 2002 and another 2003. The ‘02 is one of the exceptional ones - it was faster than any other Viper I’ve ever come across. Bone stock it runs 107-108 mph on radar on hardback lake conditions (not even plowed). The ‘03 isn’t quite as fast but it’s mint - it only has about 2000 km on it!
I've seen a few Vipers with 20k on original top ends that are still vicious in a straight line - Yamaha nailed it on that engine. The red-head triples sound better but the black top engines are leaps and bound ahead in design.
107 is fast? Maybe in 1980
Great video Pete. from personal experience, you have to look hard to out run a Polaris 700 Twin. they run great right out of the box, and with a little clutching and jetting work, they run fabulous..
Keep up the great video's, right up my alley!!
thank you! yeah they work great 🍻
Awesome machines...love your new Yammie damn thing is mint...personally I'd keep it looking stock just the way it came from the factory.
thanks! 🍻
Just picked up one of those 2000 Polaris XC 700s as kinda of a throw in package deal on fishin sled I wanted. Damn that thing rips… I didn’t know anything about em before now. Enjoyed the videos fella, good stuff
thanks! sounds like you got a Nice One! 🍻
What a Beauty Pete. The sled is too. She ain’t scared to squeeze it lol
Cheers from Manitoba
She is gorgeous! the sleds not to shabby either 🤣🍻
Those 700 Liberty motors are super tough.... And with the right clutching....you can make them top dog !!!
You got that right! 🍻
Hey pete, love your guys videos by far my favourite channel on youtube, you guys are the real ones. There aint a video made yet where i didnt laugh 😂😂 cheers from prince edward island my friend🍻 i would love have a few cold ones with you guys sometime🍺🍺
thank you! I really appreciate that!! cheers to ya out in Prince Edward Island🍻 if you're ever out this way shoot me a message! haha I'm always up for a cold one 🍻
You are a good dude. I can tell you really enjoy helping people out . Love your channel.
I appreciate that! thank you! cheers 🍻
Those older Polaris XC 700s were brutes. As was mentioned..clutching, plus she was studded up. Love the wrap.
thank you! 🍻
Those xc 700 were also very lite.
Love tnem old XC's!!! Just beat up on the viper and 1200, good old sleds no doubt!!
Good batteries in all your toys😂 Nice one bud!
lol 🤣🍻
That XC is and absolute monster
Yessir! 🍻
That XC 700 is sneaky fast. What a beast!
I'am a Polaris and ski-doo guy i'am impressed with that Polaris I didnt think it would beat the Yamaha tell you the truth Great video by the way love when you do the shootouts lol.
thank you! 🍻
I say do’er up!!! Like you said she’s gorgeous but that wrap will make her POP!!! Beautiful sled bud!!!!!
thanks! 🍻
I always thought those Yami's were chick sleds 😅👍 XC just walking those others that's how I remember it 😉 XC 800 were smoke shows
Yes. Thanks. Been waiting for another video. Cheers!
Man that xc is a sweet sled!!
I have a 2000 poo 700 twin sled and it's got power to spare and it rips ! Really enjoy the videos 👍
thanks! 🍻
Nice one Pete.... Wow that Polaris xc looks great 👍👍👍 runs like a breast Have a great New Year
Thank you! happy new years 🍻
That is crazy that an older technology 700 can stay with a new technology 800 but I get it. My 2004 F5 Cat, seat of the pants, felt faster on top end runs than my current 2014 El Tigre 6000. I can barely make 90 on my El Tigre but had no problems making 90+ on my Firecat.
Those are speedo numbers just to clarify. The XC 700 is a dangler
Great content again Pete
AIN T NO FEELIN LIKE SNOW MO BILING
Nice One! 🍻
That's awesome 👏 👍 garage full of sleds and bud lite too
haha thanks! cheers 🍻
Dig the videos man, I'm actually not far from you guys lol being in port perry. I've seen scooter in a couole videos and was like I kmow this guy from somewhere and coukdnt remember where. Think I figured it out, he's a plumber ya? I did a job with him in pickering not too long ago small world lol
Keep up the cool vids!
Subscribed!
Those XC were beasts on the track.
We had a 800 2001, clutch/gear for drag racing, with a 1.75 track cuted down to 1.5 if i remember correctly, and we win everywhere we go.
Our friend with the 600 was damn fast too, winning everything in the 600 stock and improved class, hard to beat in the 700 and beat many 800.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 10K SUBS...LET'S GET'EM TO 20K!!!!
That was awesome. Hope you had a great Christmas and have a wonderful new years. That arctic cat was fast but dam that Polaris with 100cc less and years older. to only be inch’s behind. That is amazing.
Thank you and merry Christmas 🍻
Love your videos 📹 and appreciate the hard work you do to create and post all this stuff!...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 👋🤠
nice wrap . didnt look bad but looks great now
Thanks 👍🍻
Pete you have me laughing in every video bro! Keep up the great work 💪
haha thanks! cheers🍻
The old xc still keeps up awesome!!!
The red rocket is a beast!
Great video love the new sled!!! But we need more video's!!!! Lol
lol thanks! and I'll try to keep the videos coming 🍻
Found you're channel and love it. Pete you're a great guy im sure, even though I've never met you I cant wait to meet you in person. I need a great mechanic in the Kawartha area can you drop off a phone number THE NEXT TIME YOUR IN THE LCBO in Lindsay. My son is the manager Andrew.
that's awesome and thank you! yeah for sure the next time Kristina and I are out at the L.C.B.O we'll make sure to check in with your son! cheers 🍻
Hey Pete, does she have any sisters? Lol. Jk you guys look happy as heck. We finally got snow here in the Cuse' ride on 😎
The 99 srx600 I picked up a couple weeks ago started 1 pull and no choke! I knew that was a sign to buy it lol.
lol yessir! sounds like a Nice One! 🍻
Fun video. Those old Poo 700s were quick. Need to find someone with a 99 MXZ 670HO and line that up to the XC. Viper looks mint, I wouldn't go too crazy with the wrap, keep it subtle.
thanks! ya we will definitely try to find one! 🍻
Yes definitely wrap it on blue, purple, and silver. It will be fast sitting still. Love your channel, keep up the great videos.😁👍👍👍 ps. Still waiting on some red neck dirty hands stickers.
thanks! yeah I think it would look good with a wrap like that! and workin on getting the stickers available online soon!! 🍻
Be interesting to see how a F7 stands up against that XC
Only change on that viper would be a stock windshield, stock bars and get rid of those damn fox stickers.
That girl of yours sure gets complimented by that Viper, both are beauties!
yeah a show down between the XC and an F7 would be sweet!! and I totally agree with ya 😉 they are both beautiful and the fox stickers are already gone lmao 🤣🍻
Only thing that viper needs is triple pipes and say good by 700xc.. been there done that
Great video Pete! I love the sound of the Yamaha triple; just picked one up recently. New to sleds and was wondering what your opinion on ski skins and different ski setups. My sled came with some ruined ski skins and it turns like the Titanic! Appreciate the content, Nice one!!!
thanks! there's nothin better than the sound of a sweet triple!!! as far as the skis I'd say just a set of stock skis and new carbide's will get her turnin mint! 🍻
I've got a couple of early 2000s Polaris sleds in the garage. I'll see ya at the Sturgeon Lake radar run this year bud.
yessir! see ya there 🍻
I had a 2002 viper that was untouchable, found out it had the race motor longer stroke smaller compression chamber (red sled)
Nice One! 🍻
The Old Lady always asks me to dress fancy , and she says she wants something special this year from the Heart ! So I’m killing two Birds with one Stone ? I’ve gotten myself a Candy Cane colored Thong , and I’m giving her Danglers for Christmas !
New to the channel hey!
The xc has a bent lower left rad rod. Replace it asap before you rip the whole right side off. Ask me how I know.
Also the wife.... Holy smoke show bud. Just fuggin mint!
welcome to the channel! 🍻 and yeah I'm a lucky fella 😉
I had a 02 edge 800 was a absolute beast. Great video, new subscriber from Ont.
Awesome! Thank you!🍻
Got thq same viper with a extension on the body for a longer track I love it
Nice one Pete. Someone took care of it.
thanks! yeah it was well looked after for sure!! 🍻
That Viper looks great, too bad it has a suitcase for an exhaust. Probably save some weight right there. Have a talk with Santa, maybe he can hook you up, Merry Xmas.
yeah that would be sweet and sound so much better too! 🍻
@@rednecksdirtyhands I have a 2003 Viper I bought second hand about 8 or 9 years ago. It's got a can on the exhaust, but the original muffler also came with it. It's crazy how heavy that damn thing is! Definitely worth swapping out. Plus, they sound even better with a straight can! I absolutely love mine.
I just got a one owner viper. A twin of yours. My bars, bar cover is all in excellent condition and factory. If your up for a trade for your set up, let me know. I can take it apart box it mail it.
Need to find a Ski Doo Mach Z Triple 800. Those things are stupid fast!
Awesome with sauce I was going to saw yomama looks good but not appropriate. Happy new year.
Need to find an early F7 to run against the XC700. 😎👍
Yep 03 F7 be a good competitor
That be a good race those f7s are rockets also
I was going to say the same thing. The F7's are legendary!
yessir!! I totally agree 🍻
F7 were heavy but prob a good race , my stock mxz would beat my buddys f7 and would b even w the xc love em all from that year
Nice hoser! How about some Polaris 800 engine keepin' her from blowin?
haha those 800 polaris cranks like to take off eh! freakin hosers 🤣🍻
That was fun. Merry christmas guys , and happy new year to ya.🇨🇦🍻
Those early xc 700s had a big bore option my buddy had one and they are very fast force production sled , but I had to get one and I sent the cylinders and the upper case half to a guy in Minnesota and had him port theme 😁 and it mad rite around 160ish hp
Hey there , love the videos man ! Keep up the killer work . Heard that you lived in Ontario and I just got myself an 02 zr 800 efi cce for the winter and she’s got the ol case of saggy ass syndrome . Was wondering if you knew of a good place that I could pick up a new rear shock ? She’s got plenty of studs and I’m not trying to pop one threw my heat exchange . 🤘🏻
thanks! yeah check out peterborough cycle salvage, they probably have one I'd think. I'm not too sure if they ship stuff but it would be worth a call 🍻
where do we get the stickers the wraps are so cool merry Christmas and happy new years from fenelon falls
we don't have a website up for merch yet, but we arnt too far from fenelon falls! we are near peterborough. merry Christmas and happy new years if you're ever out and about near peterborough give us a shout on Facebook @RN+DH 🍻
I have 2 vipers 2002 blue one and red one. They been solid. Supposed to be a foam filter on top the air box
I'm on the look out for a filter 🍻
awesome video... Happy New Year
thank you! and Happy new years to you 🍻
Just picked up a 2000 ZR600 , excited to take er for a rip
Love the early 2000’s era sleds
You guys are out Peterborough way ?
Nice One! yeah we are in the peterborough area 🍻
Awesome video.. your jokes are hilarious 🤣
haha thank you! 🍻
Throw heavier weights in the primary clutch of that viper, I bet it will be faster, clutching is everything!. Good luck!
not a bad idea! 🍻
nice job sleds look awesome.great video
thanks!
Now THATS a christmas video folks ;) And Pete. I was just wondering. Could a fella from Shelburne Ontario get a few of your RedNeck stickers for his sled somehow? :)
hahaha thanks and Merry Christmas 🍻 I don't have a website up yet for the merch, but if you're ever around the peterborough area I've got some stickers here! 🍻
Well I do have a sister and nephews that live there. where you are. But I've not been there in 8 years . But I suppose I'm due for a visit ;) And could get in Red neck touch with ya and letcha know :) Or. Add ya on O'l Facie Bookie-let there, Become fraands, And if ya mailed me some. This fella would even pay the stamp and envelope lickin fee ;) Awe but aside from that. Pete. I love all your videos. If I am in peterborough. A fella will letcha know :)
Off the line XC, BUT! The SX will top that Polaris. How do I know I already tried vs my cousin from Kwethluk to Bethel. The SX will beat the XC. Nice sled my late cousin had one. They are one of the sweetest fastest rides out there!
I'm surprised, but I'll still stand by my post, if the lake was longer I think the Viper will catch up and start to pull away😁
Good vid though that XC is a beast no doubt!
thanks! yeah I think with a bit more traction on the viper it would be a closer race for sure and it would have the legs to get around that pullyourass lmao 🤣🍻
@@rednecksdirtyhands yeah I was kinda rooting for the viper but thats pretty awesome what these old sleds are capable of and people still love those old 2 strokes keep them coming😁
The XC 700 twin and the legendary XCR 700 triple is really a beast
it is a beast!! 🍻
I used to smoke 700xcr all day long with my 98 700xc twin
@@jimbeam9176 was it really that much faster? I don’t see it happening like your saying 😂
@@fwhiteification it did back when I had mine.. raced a few through out the first year I had mine.. stock for stock.. not some tuned up triple.. had a group of 5 triple 7s on the lake one day just dumb fouded because they could beat me..i beat a lot of sleds with that 700 twin.. about the only thing that would beat it was doo mach 1, or yamaha srx, or xrc 800
I had a viper for 6 years that thing was bulletproof and really good on gas
definitely one of my favorite sleds! 🍻
Had a yamaha srx700 trip . had nothing for rear suspension but a fast sled
That XC is limited compared to the ZR for traction for sure, my oldXC is a champ around here too when it comes to lake rippin'🤙 you gotta make it up towards Minden for some group riding or arrange something down there for the fellas😃
sounds good! 🍻
Hay Pete I'm from down yander in North Dakota I have a 2002 Yamaha mountain Max 700 triple those 700 are rockets
cheers North Dakota 🍻
Nice one Pete!! Polaris powa!!!
haha thanks! 🍻
Happy new year from Ohio
Happy new years and cheers Ohio 🍻
Pete. I’ve got a 2003 xc 700. That wrap looks wicked. How can I purchase one and get it shipped to me. If you can help. Let me know.
Thanks
Cheers from Manitoba
cheers Manitoba! 🍻 we might be able to sell them on our website once we get it up and running!
ok. ive got the same sled for sale. what did you buy this one for? just curious. love your vids
Hey Pete
That wrap on scooters xc is sweet...i own the 6,7 and 800 how do I get that wrap for my 800?
Thanks! once we get the website set up for merch we will be able to sell some wraps, stickers and all the other good stuff! 🍻
The new rap on Scooters sled makes it look much newer a model. I think it is a vast improvement. Where can I get one for my 2006 Polaris RMK 900?
we might have them available on our website once it's all up and running 🍻
After 20 years I got back into snowmobiling, yes you can blame me for the crappy weather. Last sled I owned was a 97 MXZ 670. I just bought a 2003 XC SP 500. Edge chassis. Has the liberty 500 VES engine. So to me it seems pretty quick. One thing I noticed is when you hit the gas the weight transfer to back is really noticeable. maybe that’s why the 700 is so fast.
Get rid of that background music so we can hear that sweet triple!!!
Your wrap guy did a wicked job on that old edge, does he do wedge chassis'? I'm outta renfrew
thanks! it's limited what templates he can find but he might be able too..once we have our website up and running we might be able to start selling some 🍻
Those short track Polaris 700s are gnarly!! I raced one few years back with my 14 etec 800 n barely beat him by a sled! Plus my sled has clutch/gearing work and full exhaust
Nice One! 🍻
That Poo rips! 🔥💯🇺🇲
I kick myself every time I pass on buying a Viper - I've ridden a few and they are a great all round sled - and maybe the best looking sled of the era!
Totally agree! 🍻