Seller Said This $500 Sled Wouldn't Run Right...I Fixed It In 10 Minutes
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- I buy a 1998 Polaris XCR 600cc snowmobile and find the bogging down problem in ten minutes. #Polaris, #Sled, #Fix,
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3 cylinder 2 stroke,what a thing of beauty.
Kawasaki triple street bikes.... I remember riding them very well... Scary, Nasty, noisy, and smoky...
I had a 2 stroke wave runner 3 cylinder. A GP1200 Yamaha. It ripped until I spun a crank bearing and eventually seized the engine. 😅
Nice machine Joe winner all day long mate 👍👌🏁🏁❤️🐾🐾🦴🦴🔧🔧
All plugs should be grounded when checking for spark or you could damage ignition coil
Had an '03 Polaris XCR 800. It would lift the skis at 50mph!! Fastest sled I ever owned. After I sold it, I found out less than 500 were made as '03 models. The '03s rocked, I'm here to tell ya. Wish I had it back
With all the Lemon's you have had to deal with over the years, you deserve an easy one. Thanks for bringing me along today, I enjoyed it.
Thought same thing.
A couple of tips from an old sledder. Instead of killing your back trying to drag a sled off of a trailer simply tie a rope to the back bumper and to the nearest solid object (tree etc). Then SLOWLY pull forward with your truck and the sled will roll right off. I also don't like checking for spark with the plug right over top of the open spark plug hole. If it's flooded fuel comes out and plug can ignite the mixture causing a fireball outside of the engine which can go bad in a hurry. With a painted cylinder head you can still find a decent ground on the cylinder head bolts to check for spark. Love the channel. As some extra content you could show us what you do with all of this stuff after you fix it. I assume you flip them to buy more.
we've always wondered what happens to these machines after you fix them? it would be interesting to hear the end of the story on these machines.
my back hurt just watching ouch. lol
I think he keeps most of them😅
Yeah that's a great safety tip. About burned my face off on a flooded lawn tractor once.Never did that again Did it for years untill it happened one day.I guess u had your experience too?
@@timray1827I think lined up nicely
That Polaris 600 triple is a beast! Somebody mentioned above that they would go fast in a straight line? Well, yeah, but if you learned to ride in the old days, where you learned to ride with your whole body, instead of just the the handlebars, they would go fast no matter where you rode them. I miss those days when it wasnt a lazy mans sport! Great pickup, man!
Hell yea man, love the ol polaris triples, my name says it all, i just picked one of these up actually, its no storm 800, but still a beast💯
@@POLARIS.INDY.ADDICT I had an Indy 500. I let a friend borrow it, and he wrecked it. Damn shame. It was one of the more reliable sleds I ever had. I've moved to Ohio since, so I don't ride anymore. Big difference between living in the lower peninsula of Michigan to Ohio. I miss it. Bad.
@@stephenstevens6573 yea those little 500s are reliable as hell for sure, ive owned a few, my brother has one at the moment and it has under 2000 miles, great sleds to cruise the trail on, and not a pig on fuel either lol
What part ohio you in @stephenstevens6573
The aggressive chassis doesn't go in the deep snow, period lol idc how you ride it, or which model it is.. and these 600s are fast, but blow up. They are a mash-up of other engine parts straight out of the factory lol and the 600lb chassis doesn't help with either of those. I also have this exact sled, a couple 650s.. (have had other Polaris triples in the past, as well as a SPX Ultra - same sled as this XCR with the 680 instead of the 600) and as fast as the 600 is, they aren't great sleds, none of them are.. Which is why everyone says they go fast in a straight line. (They can also rail trails though, but that's about it)
I am putting a piped 650 into an Edge chassis over a stock 600 so it can be reliable at around the same power lol
Aggressive chassis just isn't great at much. The Wedge chassis is way better all around, same with a Gen 2, evolved, and Edge is as good as a trailing arm sled can get. Aggressive is def the last choice Polaris chassis
That Bombardier is my favorite machine you have. I had no doubt about it pulling your truck out. I could use that for a lot of things around here.
a beast.....
Yeah, a lot of people could. Needs to secure that thing. 🫤
Some you lose, some you win 100%.
Anyone going out and buying these machines in the freezing cold deserves a break now and again.
Well done!
Those sleds use staggered carb jetting to compensate for uneven cooling. I don’t recall exactly which end was hotter. But it’s in the manual. When people take the carbs apart to clean them they don’t realize this and mix things up. You could end up with a hot cylinder (lean) and one cold (rich). So it’s best to verify used sleds.
Also those 600 triples can feel a touch slow or weak just after the clutch engages. They really benefit from aftermarket clutching. But just as important is carb sync. It can be roughly done with a few old school tricks. But best done with proper syncing equipment but it’s more difficult using 4 stroke manometers on a 2 stroke.
But for $500 it’s a good score. You could triple that money by parting it out with the engine running and good compression.
Best comment. I hope he reads this. The guy said he cleaned the carbs. Wonder if he installed them in wrong order.
Usually the middle cylinder. It gets hitter so it has a bit richer jetting
@2vintage exactly this!! And also try a new belt
@@matsmannela9475 Actually I think it has more to do with the direction of coolant flow. It enters one end after being cooled from the heat exchanger, picks up heat and moves on to the next cylinder with coolant that is already warmer so it has less capacity to cool. By the time this happens to the third cylinder it needs to be compensated for. Some two cylinder sleds have this staggering issue also but normally they are air-cooled. But same theory.
I would always try replacing plugs before I deemed my project a no-fix. Can you imagine finding out that you gave a 600-dollar discount for a set of bad plugs?
Bad day for that seller!
Yeah exactly. First thing I would do is new spark plugs and put a clean air filter in there. btw you can't always see if an air filter is clean from the outside. Seen filters looking perfect but full of fine dust.
Sleds dont have air filters.
@@kevinalbers1084my cheap 2 stroke snowblower doesn't have an air filter either. Why is that ?
$2500 discount.
Checking spark on a flooded cylinder on the hole like that surprised it didn't shoot a flame, been there lol
BTW, when stuck don’t unhook the trailer unless you have to. Put the sled on the trailer as far forward as you can. That weight over the truck axle can be huge.
also turn off traction control
See your tire man
Heck for $500 i would have picked it up. Even though it’s a Polaris. Lol.. God bless brother Joe 🙏
I used to have this same sled. That old triple was fast in a straight line, for sure!
I can't be the only one that laughed at this - all of the weirdness to unload the sled onto the snow off the driveway - and then literally the first place that it goes.... is across the driveway! haha 🤣
LoL
Yeah I thought 💭 too… lol
The driveway down below had snow on it lol
Joe we just messing with ya! Love the channel be cool to hang out with ya! Fun times! Lol 😂
He’s a moron
Good looking sled took a little tinkering. Thanks for the learning moment. Pulling off the trailer was backbreaking. Need a dolly. Keep up the hard work
ive watched every single video from the last 2 and a half years i love your content so much! im picking up a 1987 kdx 80 today for $200 it needs exhaust, throttle and clutch cable and plastics along with a piston.
think its a good deal?
@@flickfamhad one literally identical when I was younger . The dealer can still get some parts but good luck with all the other parts and plastics
Have fun with the water pump
@@PoppinWheeliez 87 is air cooled
The kdx are anyhow
That Bombardier is my new favorite machine here on U-Tube. Its a BEAST!
Thnx for putting out learning and inspirational videos. :)
This sled absolutely rips! You got a smoking good deal on this one for sure! Also love the sound of a 2-stroke triple with expansion chambers, even though this machine runs exhaust through a large muffler to keep the noise down(?).
Excellent video, glad you got to get some seat time on it. Thanks Joe!
Nice find and fix. Get a spark plug socket with the rubber sleeve inside of it. I notice you struggling with spark plugs falling out when removing them 👍
So glad to see you get a win with this snowmobile. Enjoy your video's and your great talent with all the different machines.
NICE FIND JOE, THOSE TRIPLE CYL TRIPLE PIPE SKEDS ARE SOUGHT AFTER BY GUYS THAT LOVE THEM AND WANT TO GO FAST, THEY WERE THE BEST SKEDS, THE OLE TRIPLE TRIPLE
Great video as usual, and what an awesome deal! But cylinder 2 and 3 are still running way too lean. The clutch side plug looks about right, that's how all of them should look like, not the other way around. I bet you have an intake leak on 2 and 3.
Check the plugs again after riding it. It might not be fixed…
love these old girls, i got two 97' XCR 600's and i got a 97 ultra 680. Helps tuning these old sleds when they come with the owners manual lol. good score as well, id for sure hang on to that one. Those aggressive chassis polaris sleds are becoming one of the hardest to find and they one made them for 3 years and plus the rarity of the hoods, extremely hard to find in good shape especially the white hood aggressive chassis. primary clutch should engage around 4700 rpm with a stock almond/white spring and it should have a 1066 polaris drive belt. they're some rippers sleds, just had mine doing 105 2 weekends ago.
Fantastic find!! Wow! At the end even the pup was dancing over such a great deal.
Nice sled Joe! Might want to keep that one! Its in really nice shape for the year. Don't see them like that to often... And what a deal!
Nothing like those triples, sound great. The skidoo rotax engines had the rotary valve and pumped out a lot of power too.
I knew it was running on 2 cylinders I know that triple triple sound. Love it actually nothing compares.
Sold both my sleds a couple years ago. We never get any good amounts of snow anymore, here it is the end of January and basically none to speak of. Sucks though they are probably my favorite machine, a good sled is a rocket ship
Love watching your work cheers. From Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I'm not a Polaris fan, but that hood flipping open for engine access is pretty sweet.
All the old snowmobiles were like that.
Clearly not a snowmobile fan either😂
@@dubiousf00d , I'm in NC. Not too many snowmobiles around here, bro.
@@donkndave7811Fair point!
Good buy for an old machine, and you'd know what you were looking at. Fun sledding, and you can't beat fun on a winter day
I’ve been watching a lot of these videos. I moved to Jacksonville Florida in 1990 from Holton Michigan. Moving back next month so I need to find another way to hustle some cash. Thanx for posting! Enjoy your videos too brother
Just started watching your channel it's awesome love that you have Vinny in them. Thanks for the entertainment. God bless and have a great day. 👍
That's good that it was an easy fix. Looks it still needs a little carb adjustment. That Bombardier is awesome. I would never get rid of that thing. It's your workhorse. Now you just need a good track loader. A poll building on the property would be a great addition too. Thanks for sharing.
I love the sound of a TRIPLE !! They run so smooth.
I picked up a 97 XCR Ultra at the beginning of the season this year. These sleds are sought after and can fetch a couple of grand if it is in nice and runs good. Cool performance sled of the 90s. Also those factory triple pipes are getting harder and harder to come by. You should hold on to this one, it's a collectable sled.
These aren't on the collector scale unless they are showroom condition. You can pick these piles up for $500 running. It's hard to even give them away in Minnesota. (97-98 xcr 600 sp)
for an old tripple it sounds crispy! Definitely a clean sled!!!! Miss the old sled days!
Once again love the content. Just wanted to let you know something on your Honda Forman you pulled the sled out with. going from reverse to neutral you don’t have to pull the lockout, You only need that to shift it down into reverse. Just wanted to let you know, may make it easier when plowing!
Hey Joe, if you plan on keeping this id highly suggest putting a temp gauge on it. Also let it warm up for a bit before taking of, that way, you dont cold seize it
It has a temp gauge. He showed at the beginning.
“Wish this thing had reverse”. Too bad you didn’t have a quad or something to pull it off with. 😂
Hahahahahaha!! Right?
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Joe has a few quads, one is a beast with a snow plow😂😊
I thought the same thing, and was screaming at my phone as he was tugging that thing inch by inch backwards!😂😂
Looked like a lot of fun. Pro tip……4 low is for torque and 4 HI is for wheel spin. 4 HI is what you want in deep snow
We always like you taking us along on your rides.
All multiple cylinder engines must have the carburetors synchronized so they are all pulling the same vacuum and metering the air and fuel equally , you don't want to lean out a cylinder. Have fun and great video 👍
PS which sled do you like best out of the two newest you have acquired ?
Nice Tripple! 20 yrs ago had a 97 XCR 600 chassis w an Ultra 680 SP engine . Sled was an animal for the time & being the first tripple i had EVER owned .
It scared the Bibs off me many times ...lol.
Love the content . Curently own an 08 REV XP MXZ TNT , 00 FORMULA DLX 500 & 97 ARCTIC CAT EXT DLX 580 .
ENJOY THEM ALL .
Just picked up the same model of sled same year as well, things are wicked for a 600cc
You should build a race track with the snow machine for your sleds😂
Love this kinda content. Keep them coming please!
Great deal!! Your video makes me miss my 97 Polaris Storm 800 Tripple more and more!! The suspension was great but my back wasn't. Lol
Another great video. Totally enjoyed it.
Re: getting stuck, get better tires… and buy a Jeep 😉 just busting on ya, I am a Jeep man, but love Yota’s too.
Awesome find n you got all the different varieties of toys that a fella needs especially that track machine!!!
Joe, I've said it before& I'll say it again....
Get a decent spark plug tester or make one.
Far better way to ensure the spark is decent and can properly earth it and see the distance the spark jumps... Should be a Must for working on any spark ignition engine. 👍
Joe besides your excellent mechanical skill(with Vinny's help), you also are a good businessman as well!
What a bargain!
I had the exact same issue with my sled a couple of years ago -- knew exactly what was wrong as soon as I heard the description of what was going on.... in my case, I had to replace a couple of the spark plug connectors - I was only getting 2 plugs working, and one of them was intermittent. After checking the plug connectors - one of them was black from arc'ing... replaced everything, new plugs - and viola! she runs good now.
Frickin Love the Sled content. More more sleds please.
That sled is an instrument and it makes beautiful music. Love the triples.
Had the exact same one. Check the carb boot, they tend to crack 🤘🤘
After getting stuck 5-10 times in deep snow you’ll want to sell it 😂😂 (heavy, no reverse)
I remember the days when I could pull a sled off a trailer, man that looks painful. At least the wheeler helped!
I got a 97 classic 600 xlt wedge I love these sleds mine is now a 136 1 1/2 with a 00 seat and tank can't beat the sound of a triple with a pipe
After your first run when you lifted the hood you could see the 3rd cylinder exhaust was different to the other 2 and not running as hot.. after you did the plugs and the ground and run it the pipes were all the same colour…
Nice job and a sweet deal for you…
40:44 there is a ladder leaning up against a tree?
Fun and informative video. Always like the triples.
Can't believe how clean that thing is the previous owner obviously really took good care of it, definitely a score on that one even if it needed a top end or whatever that thing is crazy clean I don't remember seeing one that clean even when only just a year or two old
Careful jerking the sled bsck like that. I hurt my back doing that and it hasnt ever been the ssme since :/
Mighty be smart to clean and time your carbs and check boots for any cracks
Keep up the good work fella, I'm learning loads watching your videos, it's like having a personal mechanics school at home. 👍
Ps here in the UK, UA-camrs like yourself have started to raffle off the bikes after finishing them. You could be missing out on more revenew from your work/videos. Your followers would gain by winning a bike quad or vehicle for very little money.
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I don’t care for them triples because sometimes that center cylinder gets too much heat. That may be your problem center cylinder not firing right.
These old school triples fly great find Joe.
Awesome video keep them coming great start to 2024👍
Love how he tested for spark on the third cylinder. What a surprise there'd have been with "unburned fuel" and a tickle more spark! Definitely OSHA approved👍
Man, the very first thing you check on any sled is the damn spark plugs. Even an inexperienced mechanic knows that.. I absolutely do not understand why this person didn't check those.. Oh well, their loss is your gain because those 600's are fairly quick. I doubt 100, but probably a good 90.. Maybe, though, if a few mods were put in and some studs and a pipe. Those older speedos are unreliable usually. I have radar run quite a few old pooplaris's and found them to usually be off.. I'm not sure if it's from years of riding or calibration, but it is what it is. Great content bud, always a pleasure.
sweet deal! maybe look into better tires for the truck, but awesome job with that biest pulling you out when you were stuck! maybe before you go in next time use that big babby and plow a nice route in, and a better place to turn arround. great job!
i bought a 2000 or 2001 Arctic Cat ZR 440 sno-pro (we call the sled type for Cross-Skoter in Sweden, its a word copy from "DirtBike" in combo with Snowmobile ) With a engine swap to a Arctic Cat 600cc EFI. Seller said first it did not run anymore, and the last time it did run he was experience throttle being stuck wide open. that was a easy fix, i started with cleaning all the CDI box pins for the electric cables. and after that i replaced the really short thorttle wire. that was why it was stuck wide open then he did right side turns.
after that it worked pretty good. i did fix bad things on it. replaced skiees from original to boondock skii´s. and other small changes and i made my own version of a "Cross-over" snowmobile it ws pretty nice off-trail. still a very short track. but it was agile AF. no reverse ger bit short and light so i could lift and spin it.
track was changed for a used track but with much bitter kam´s for better off-trail snow grip. still not like the boondok sleed but still much more than orginal.
the only part i did not fix properly was the frankenstein airbox.. it worked good for 3 winters. cuz we usually dont get this much powder snow as we got this winter. this was a relly nice start on my Swedish winter. usually we get snow and enought snow to ride properly in the woods and trail´s and on frozen lakes. but not "Canadian deep". any how i managed to suck in powder snow to the airbox and I cracked the top cover on the engine, from the spark plug hole all the way out to the edge, visible from the outside, didn't even have to unscrew it for them to crack.
so sometimes "dead" snowmobiles are not dead at all. mine i bought for about 600$ USD and did put in another 300-350$ to fixx it. i did ride that sled properly for 3 years :D
now tho i have a Lynx Xterrain from 2020 that i replaced my Frankenstein Cat with.
Aww little lucky for that quick fix, awesome
Clean sled! Looks like it was well taken care of. That was a very popular sled, they were everywhere back in the day. I don't care if it's old. This goes to show you that all it takes is to give your sled attention and it will last. My sleds are 22 & 25 yrs old and I still love them. With the price of the new ones as high as they are you're gonna see and are seeing people hang on to their old one's. Can't believe it.....just a bad spark plug!!!
reverse is usually on thr backside of the handlebars it just pulls up not like the buttons on the newer sleds or lever like on the wedge chassis
Proud American right there take advantage of the guy instead of taking 5 minutes to help him out
I guessed the right cylinder by the color of the exhaust pipe. Nice fix!
Man you made out on this one 👍
I love it when you take em out to the land. The only thing; you have those cool implements out there pretty much unsecured including the boat you restored. I don’t want you to get ripped off. 🤷🏼♂️
That Bombardier is The Secret Sauce! Man, good thing you had that at the land. 😊
That was awesome Joe! Great deal man for 500$, id bet that guy u bought it from is sick...lol.
I can't wait to see this yamaha running!
Great luck on this buy and fixing it so fast! I think the plug was cracked and not firing. Normally 2 stroke sledders always carry a spare set of plugs in the toolkit when they ride. I also noticed you had no spare belt when you opened the shroud - that is another must have spare part. I think the previous owner was riding on the cheap and taking chances not carrying spares.
Yeah buddy! Smoken deal. I could feel the acceleration from here!
I was leaning towards a "bad ground" / "weak ground". idk.
I had a 1996 xcr 600 when i picked it up it was running like crap I looked under the hood and they had the 3 spark plug caps mixed up I switched them to the way they should be and that thing ripped man nice buy for 500
Nice ! You deserve these deals now and again
You need to start using a digital temp gun and check exhaust pipe temps to find the weak cylinders. Look at that same cylinder with the broken plug the exhaust pipe looks different than the other two. Yeah before I did spark or compression test I would swap out the broken plug and try running it again. Keep running the motor. There could be unburnt fuel in the lower crankcase in that cylinder from the fouled bad plug. If you don't sell this you should put the motor in the Raider or that Orange Trike. Nobody wants these old Polaris 3 cylinder sleds. Or make it an ice lake runner.
No one wants these sleds wake u and smell the coffee
That bomb is awesome ! I think the fan belt needs tightening ? New tires for tundra ? 😊
I guess that snow-ski thing certainly deserves it go-faster stripes, good find and fix Bud! 👍🏻
BTW here's an old tip when you're stuck, if you don't have a limited slip diff on your bakkie, put the handbrake on a little - it will stop either of the wheels from spinning and divert torque to both.
Just my opinion but 4 low is more of a hindrance than help in snow it just spins the wheels easier . if you are spinning in 4 high you gain nothing going to 4 low. 4 low is for when power to the wheels is needed like towing heavy loww up a hill. You would have had a better chance putting your truck into second gear in 4 high and gently giving just enough gas to move, as soon as the wheel break loose and spin you are losing traction stop back up and try again.
Good to see you got lucky on this one. Fresh plugs and gas is the best way to start with on an unknown machine for me.
I would buy 2stroke smelling cologne if they made it. Good job!
I love your pooch! Vinnie is a perfect name. Goldendoodle? We had one until recently, but he passed. He was 15 and the best dog ever!
Imagine the neighbors love this guy..
What's not to love?
its atripple make sure to hold her to the bar every now and agian to stop it from loading up n fouling plugs out love the content man uve helped me fix numerous of my machines ive had
I TOTALLY ENJOY ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS. 👍👍👍👍👍
Sounds great but still has some bog issues, clean carbs and check clutches, should be way more violent from way back days 😮
Hey buddy.....I love your channel....so fun to watch....I have a 2007 mach Z 1000 sdi 2 stroke sled....that seems to be having nothing electrical issues.....I have even had the fuse box replaced and it was running for maybe 2 weeks....I shut it off to put oil in it and it's never started since.....it's currently sitting in a garage and that mechanic even said he couldn't figure out the issue....wondering if maybe you may have any pointers??? Or wanna buy it cheap from me??? Hahaha....
Joe you should think about doing a giveaway. But hold onto that plow. It seams to be a little work horse
Yup right away I can hear it running on two cylinders. And watching you try to pull it off the trailer was um.... Funny. I've had a couple triples and loved them. Yamaha triples are very powerful. Yah they're heavy. Just eat your Wheaties in the morning lol
Man that thing is smoking fast! Thanks, Joe!
Great find, quick flip or adding to the collection? And some 2Vinny time
You should make some filter for the top of the airbox to keep snow dust out. One drop of water will burn a hole in the top of piston. I made some from an old shop vac foam and silicone them on. Love polaris, been riding them 24 years now.
Most carbs got water trap , older sled don’t have air box snow and water never makes a hole in piston!!!
You have all of the cool toys and you have earned them.
I have started watching your channel and it’s awsome ! My only question is, do you purchase these ? Or are you fixing them for the owners? Or do you buy them then sell them?
Now that's a good days work Joe!!😂
Hi, got to talk to Paul at Fab Rats about some lockers for the Tundra lol