This is the exact reason why I watch this channel--because of batshit crazy antics like hooking a floppy disk drive and an IBM Model M up to a phone for the specific purpose of playing Commander Keen. My life is made whole.
Wouldn't it be funny to lug that model m keyboard around, plop down on a park bench and start sending texts with it. Just to see the look on people's faces.
It’s not magic, it isn’t even smart...it’s called usb (universal serial bus) UNIVERSAL! dumbasses!!! And for the record,you can use that usb floppy on an iPhone as well, clearly no one here is smart enough to fully utilize your iPhone to its full potential. SHOCKER that Apple users are useless 😂😂😂 idiots.
And you think Einstein was a genius??? He got lucky but most of his theories inaccurate hence why we have to make quantum physics to vill the huge voids Einstein left he is nit nearly the genius people credit him to be
Check out Techmoan on here if you want to see more... I guess obscure technology from the past. Like I never knew that wire recorders existed. New reel to reel players and strange devices that barely lasted a year
Could you imagine going to the coffee shop, pulling your new $1,000 phone out of your pocket along with an OTG cable (nothing really spectacular)...but then pulling out a 3.5" diskette drive and a diskette I could just hear and see it now, dead silence and death stares HAHA!!! Excellent.
How about RS232 usb adapter in the OTG? I have heard that it works as well. I could contact my 2020 phone with my 1982 CNC lathe and run it with the dos software from 1995 if I wanted to.
Anyone ever wonder why your "newer" PCs start with drive C:? What's happened to Drives A and B; why are those designations still reserved? (still for floppy access?)
The craziest thing - we've had it for many, many years. Many early 2000s mobile devices were already powerful enough to run ports of games such as DOOM, or even fully-fledged emulators like those for the PSP (it can even run PS1 and Nintendo 64 stuff!) - they just didn't have neat USB ports like now our phones do. Later in the decade, we would have e.g. SEGA saying that the original iPhone was as powerful as the Dreamcast (kotaku.com/5026060/sega-the-iphone-is-as-powerful-as-the-dreamcast). We _do_ have more power in our pockets than _desktops_ in the 2000s, and in fact more powerful than most were like five-ten years ago - think 1-4 GB of RAM, early Intel Core processors with two cores, quite competent GPUs for 1080p games at most... and now compare to flagships which can be bought from as little as $400-500 when looking well enough, or even cheaper phones.
Arm cortex A73 can do 6,35 (25 with 4 cores) practical instruction per cycle (a A9 can do 2.5 for reference, 10 with 4 cores) (A7, A8 and A9 have simular design, A15, A32, A35 and A53 have similar design, but A53 have more power, Simuarly A57 and A73 is somewhat similar) That calculate 1.5Ghz for the A9 and 2,8Gz for the A73.. Giving us 7,5G instruction per second for A9 (2 core) and 70 for a A73 (4 core). So lets se if we can find a simular older CPU in performance. Closest match for a A9 dual core is a AMD Athlon XP 2500+ that at 1.8Ghz preform 7,52Gips. Closest match for a A73 at 71Gips is a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T at 78Gips. A9 with this specification hit the market around 2009, the XP 2500+ hit the market around 2001. A73 hit the market 2016 and the Phenom II X6 in 2010. So it would seam like the mobile CPU lag about 6-8 year after. This is not quite correct. Generally the Mobile CPU take a lot longer to reach market, up to two years longer. Neither desktop CPU was top tear either. Closest top tear to the A73 would be a Intel Core i7 920 (4-core). Now we talking 2008. Ad 1 or 2 exta years for mobile CPU to hit mass market, and that would give 9-10 year lag. Its stil pretty close. The diffrance on the GPU side is quite a bit bigger. One importante take a way from this is that stationary CPU of the same year generaly have a lot higher IPC. Intel Core i7 920 from 2008 have over 7 while A9 from 2009 have only 2,5. Simuarly for 2016 the A73 have 6,3 while Intel Core i7 from the same year have over 10. But it seams like the gap is closing. The IPC race seams to be over. The same way the frequency race was over in early 2000. Now we are on the core race. That said. For single threaded aplication, mobile CPU pretty much cought up
This video is so 90's! I mean, not just the game and the tech. I mean the method and the madness. "I've never really tried this before, but I mean, theoretically it should work. It has a slot for it, right?" That was the mentality of computers in the 90's. If it looked like it could fit, you went out to the store and checked if they had something that could fit that slot. If not, you went through all your catalogs to try and find something, then ordered it, waited 3 months for it to arrive, tested it and hoped for the best. And sometimes it worked. And 15-20 years later, one of the dudes that did all that made a phone in pretty much the same way, and now we're all watching another dude from that same era doing the same thing to that type of phone. Some even watching from that type of phone.
Nah there was a bunch of stuff that fit but that didn't work -- the 90s was terrible for it -- like people were plugging Atari joysticks into their PC com ports and wondering why it didn't work. -- Today everything is USB and you can just plug it in and it will work. Hence how he's able to plug a floppy drive into his phone. ;-)
i just plugged a xbox360 wireless usb antenna to a Samsung note 2 multimedia dock... i dont know how but it recognized my wireless xbox360 controller and a playstation sixaxis one via bluetooth at the same time while connected to a crt sony trinitron wega with a hdmi to component adapter. Played Zelda Ocarina of time. now i tried with my Samsung note 4 and the joysticks are not seen by android :C but i think i can change my rom from XDA developers to make it work
@@morphman86 no, but 90's pc's did have serial ports, which used the same connector as an Atari 2600/7800 joystick. But, if you really want to be OCD about it, he could have said Genesis controller, and it would have been the exact same connector, with the exact same result as the Atari controller, just with a controller for a console that was around in the 90's. But that's really all just semantics here. His point was that the serial (COM) port had the DB9 plug, just like MANY joysticks, but the serial port was not compatible with those DB9 console joysticks.
This brought back so many memories. I remember in the 6th grade, I used to Cary around a floppy disk full of "rare" Dragonball Z pictures I would find on internet explorer whenever I had a chance to use the internet. That noise is so nostalgic.
I too had floppy disks with "rare" manga and anime pictures saved from any online terminal I could find back then... Some took like five minutes to load on screen on our family offline 386.
I'm a simple man. I see a video about plugging a disk drive into a smartphone, and I click. (No, seriously, this is god-tier geekery. This is why I love your channel.)
I've been a fan of your channel for a while now, but this was probably one of the most delightfully unnecessary and manical cackle-inducing videos I've seen. Thank you for reminding me about the time I used to get my mom to buy shareware floppies at the local Revco.
You're joking, right? Both the Pentagon and Norway's Doctors are examples of people not only still using the technology on a regular basis but also claiming they're more secure than alternatives. gizmodo.com/norways-doctors-still-use-floppy-disks-and-theyre-more-1733353595 and cloudhesive.com/pentagons-use-of-floppy-disks-probably-safer-than-newer-technologies/
And to be fair, converting an 8 inch floppy drive to USB is tougher and more expensive than 3.5 inch, since those just exist as end market products, but it's certainly not impossible.
I have never even seen an 8 inch floppy, and I have been computing for 30+ years... So, it's safe to say that those are RARE. They were rare and obsolete even in the mid 1980s.
It is actually possible to use a USB Ethernet cable and make this in to a LAN party. But you could just go regular Wifi. But hey, what would be the fun in that right? :P
And now grab a bunch of friends with their phones, have them bring some old keyboards, install Doom on their phones with DOSBox using a floppy drive, have them plug in an Ethernet adapter and the keyboard into a hub, the hub then to OTG, and to the phones, connect up the Ethernet adapters to a local network, and play Doom on the phones, on old keyboards, installed from a floppy, over LAN! How cool would that be?
Maniura I had DOOM running on DosBox on my iPad mini! It ran great! I even had a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard so it was fully functional. It wouldn’t be too difficult to hook up a Head to Head lan party!
I am efing amazed. That DosBox it's simply crazy. This give me the feeleing that our phones have so much more potential than we are giving credit to. I don't know, i love this crazy stuff you do. Keep doing it please. I dream with a world where every sphone runs DOOM natively, being played with a rusty plastic keyobard like that. Floppy hugs to you from Argentina 🤗
The interface is the limitation. This video shows that very clearly IMO. Smart phones are on par with PCs 10 years ago. Pretty fast, but they still have a long ways to go and battery capacity as well as being limited to passive cooling is certainly a limiting factor.
I really liked Microsoft's idea of being able to connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to a phone and use it as a low powered desktop. It's too bad that their phone's OS was so crappy. -- It would have sold better if it had been compatible with Android. -- They'd still be making phones today if they had been.
@@BrainSlugs83 I disagree about Windows Phone OS, I liked it far more than Android and IPhone, they couldn’t break into a flooded market because of the duopoly. Windows Phone 8.1 and then 10 were fascinating and easy to use for a windows pc user. Live tiles were pretty cool once you got the hang of it.
Please don't ruin for us what Clint does in his spare time. This is a PG channel. I'm sure he has various personal relationships with older equipment that are none of our business.
I love your video I went one step further I hooked up my phone to an external monitor via USB C to USB split C splitter Hooked up my printer ball mouse pad And everything you just did Awesome stuff man
Using an IBM Model M to play DOS games, loaded directly from a floppy, on a mobile phone... If that isn't the most LGR thing I've ever seen, then I don't know what is...
StockyDoccy, look at the bright side, quite probably you will be reincarnated later as a Chinese or inbred muslim... ;) Don't worry, life will be nothing like it is for you today!
My money's on technology advancing enough in about 50 years that we can upload our consciousness to the internet, so if you're younger than 30, immortality is a very real possibility for you.
Psythik But how would you know, whether the uploaded and duplicated consciousness is the "real you" or just a copy and a consciousness of its own... When you die, your consciousness doesn't just magically reappear in the copy, although it seems so from an outside observer's perspective.
I send config files to Cisco routers and SSH into Outlet Gateways with my Note 8 using a Terminal emulator, a USB OTG adapter, a USB Serial cable, and a USB network adapter. It works flawless every time and saves me from having to carry around a laptop.
@@realvivifromloona sorry I'm german and my english is not so good. That you take my little mistakes so closely shows that you're just an Apple fanboy.
@@realvivifromloona The comment is relevant to the video as he's saying that iPhone users are sad that they cannot do this. You're probably one of those users that he's referring to. You're mad salty bruv.
@@4Wilko With LGR, he'd probably jump at the possibility of a phone with an all-wood body. Actually, there is a wood called 'lignim vitae'. Supposedly a wood that's even tougher than ironwood. Now I'M getting interested in the possibility....
Man, I’ve been enjoying your videos for a while now but, this one connects with me especially. Thanks for all your work! I am thoroughly entertained...
There was a time when I was learning to speedrun Quake that I played during a trip using a Android phone, a USB mouse connected via OTG and my older phone (that had a physical keyboard) connected via Bluetooth to act as a keyboard Obviously it wasn't anywhere near playing on a PC but I had the idea and wanted to know if it was possible :P
Super cool use case for USB OTG. I've used that feature for a while to connect USB sticks, hard drives, and an OTG SD card reader to an older phone I use as a backup device for photos out in the field. It's too bad not all phones support the feature. The powered USB hub was a good idea. You don't want to try pulling too much power directly from the phone.
The phone can supply up to 500mA; not sure how much the floppy drive would consume, but if it went over, smartphones have pretty sophisticated internal regulation circuitry so I'd expect it to deal with an overcurrent situation relatively gracefully (i.e. shutting down the USB bus without damage). Still would drain the batteries though.
I dunno how much power does that thing need but I even managed to connect a usb midi piano keyboard to my phone, the DAWs work with that too out of the box
I think with USB-C it goes up to 900 mAh but I may be wrong. Anyway, no more hesitation - I'll order a hub like this one, with USB A, HDMI and VGA. Yay. P.S. I had a Lumia 950 XL with display dock until last month ... They purged all emulators from the store in early 2017, or maybe even earlier. GRR.
I use USB OTG on my phone together with a powered USB hub to transfer all my photos from my 5D Mark III's CF card (via a reader) to an SSD I use for travel. It was great :D
Meh Android has a very different userland than desktop GNU/Linux. This is one of those things that I'd expect to be supported at some level but not exposed to the user without hackery.
lots of usb devices intended for PCs work on android, though. ethernet adapters, usb hard drives, keyboard and mice. after seeing this, i wouldn't be surprised if you could connect a DVD reader as well. Maybe even a DVD writer? Android is not just a phone OS. Tablets can use it too, and some tablets are used as laptop replacements with keyboards attached. A wide support of peripherals makes sense for this use case, when it's already supported by the kernel.
+David Wegmuller My Amazon Fire HD8 tablet does that too (FireOS is basically a reskinned version of Android with the Google Play Store removed...before I put it back).
Android is based off of the Linux kernel the same as any Linux distro so really none of this should be surprising. At the same time it's like finding an easter egg in a video game.
That's not too surprising if you dig into the underlying systems; You'll find that mouse, keyboard and touchscreen are all unique devices recognised by the system. But it's also worth remembering that: 1. Linux kernel (thankfully none of the god-awful GNU crap on top of it though.) 2. Android exists on more than just phones; Also includes tablets, set top boxes, small laptop-like devices, single chip computers, etc. So, the underlying system has to support a bunch of different form factors, several of which by definition lack any touchscreen hardware.
It's so disheartening watching things like this be totally possible on an Android device whilst knowing just how many hoops I'd have to jump through to achieve the same thing on my Apple iPhone.
Apples business model is awful. They only let you do what they want you to do. And they tell you what you want to do. I like to do whatever I wanna do with my tech. Like make my own ringtone or have my own wallpaper, play my own music from cd's I've ripped to MP3. You know, use your stuff.
This just shows why I will never return to iOS. Best thing about Android is that all those things just work. If you can hook it through USB or in any other way, there is a way to make it work on Android. And actually I've used Android phones for DOS gaming for quite some time. Bluetooth keyboard and a way to connect phone to TV, even wireless connection is good enough if you don't mind extra 50 ms lag. On iPhone you can't even run DosBOX, because Apple forbids emulators in AppStore.
Leeki85 I think it’s about what the end user wants. I’ve been using Mac since about 1994 and have no use for DOS (and can’t imagine a MAC user from that era would want to), though I appreciate the novelty of loading it onto a phone, but my iPhone does everything I want to do and I don’t feel constricted. I find shoehorning certain experiences into a phone just doesn’t work, though with some accessories (eg a game pad or a keyboard) there is some limited functionality. If I need more I just go back to my laptop.
I used. To think the same way when I had my Sony Xperia phone but honestly now. I just want my phone to make calls, write texts, video calling is handy and some light boredom browsing or UA-cam browsing and I find iPhone far superior for those things. Anything else like gaming or emulation I have a windows laptop and a Modded OG Xbox. You can’t beat iOS for ease of use and not having to keep messing about with cache cleaning etc. With Android your forever sorting it out to keep it running nice
Friggan floppy disk!!! I haven't seen those since 07!!! And u connect it to a darn smart phone!!! Where were you when i needed you in highschool?!!!!!!!!! New subscriber
This is so cool, this is good for checking the floppy disks at flea markets, thrift stores or yard sales. Because to know what game or data is on the disk.
It’s a good way to check the disks being given away, I seen people getting rid of their floppy disks and they have boxes, and can’t tell if the game is actually in the disk, but with disk drive connected to the smartphone, this will be easier to know which disks are either blank or have the actual game.
That was Linux's buffer cache. Once it reads from the floppy it holds it in buffer cache until it either 1) needs that memory back or 2) the device node disappears. Your unplugging the drive made the latter happen. Ok, without my Linux kernel dev hat on - I thoroughly enjoyed this! How fun! This put a smile on my face, especially with the Model M on the hub! I didn't even know OTG worked with hubs.
I use a powered hub on my droid to transfer photos from a CF card of my DSLR (via a card reader) to an SSD I use for traveling. This setup saves me so much space, went with me to New York, Rome, etc :D
it worked with hubs, I've used my phone with 1TB NTFS external hard disk, mouse, keyboard, FAT32 pendrive, printer and LAN adapter all connected to USB hubs which is then connected to the OTG to my phone and they worked fine (I used them when my laptop was broken and sent for repair under the 4-year warranty) note that not all phone can read NTFS format, it's just luck... the format that all (android) phones could read is FAT32 (and probably some others like exFAT as well, not sure about that)
Tech is pretty amazing. If you were to travel back to the 80's or 90's and tell them that would be able to play computer game on a phone, they would not believe you.
Adam Hovey, When I was a kid, we could barely stream music from internet. If you told me that we can stream videos in 1080p I surely would be mesmerized.
for some reason now i want a usb floppy disk drive for my windows 10 pc to play doom kind of how it was intended. love this retro pc related videos of yours, some many things i would love to have.
Right, next up, hook up a Commodore 1541 to your Android phone through Zoomfloppy and access floppy disks through a Commodore 64 emulator on the phone! (And then play games with a Competition Pro joystick using an Atari-joyport to USB converter.)
i’m well aware i’m four years too late but i am so glad you too saw the otg adapter in the note8 box, and immediately jumped to “what ridiculous usb things should i try and run by phone?”
David Herrera iOS should be able to do this too with the Camera Conversion Kit dongle as long the USB floppy drive makes it think you're plugging in a USB storage device. The only thing really preventing it is the lack of a similar app on the App Store
Indeed it works flawlessly. To avoid carrying the laptop around old winding machines (1980s) to load programs from floppy disks and upload to machines via serial cables, I am using a Galaxy S3 phone, DosBox, a usb floppy drive, a usb-RS232 serial converter and done! Saved me a lot of time and headaches!
Definitely need to have this as an option for emulator gaming. A keyboard for old PC games, and a controller for NES, Game Boy, and so on. Touch screen controls suck, especially for emulation.
I'm amazed and surprised! I've already used pendrive and keyboard via OTG and USB hub, but two things I've never thought that were possible: 1) Enough current (I mean Amperage) to make the floppy drive work; 2) Compatibility with the good old DOS, after all Android is just a Linux flavor! I miss those simple and funny old DOS games!
Oh shit, I have GOT to try that now. If my car's already super finicky stereo can read a floppy drive through its USB port I'll wet myself laughing, given that it has enough trouble with memory sticks. And I'm of a suitable age to have been there at the birth of MP3, when we didn't really have enough hard drive space to store any kind of meaningful full-quality collection, but there were endless stacks of spare floppies, as well as Zipdisks ... therefore, I still have, buried somewhere in a backup archive, at least a Zip's worth of floppy-sized MP3s all ready and good to go for a second airing, 20ish years later. (the trick was, of course, to adjust the encoding bitrate to suit the length of the music, to keep it just under that magic 1423.5kb ... with the game being to predict it as closely as possible. I don't think I ever got it exact, but quite a few had to have subtle early fades applied to their original rip WAVs in CoolEdit to squeeze in under the limit, and there was at least one where adding an ID3 tag pushed it over the edge... It was a long time before first VBR, and then ABR arrived, so that wasn't an option. Longest ones I have are Bon Jovi's "Dry County" and the full length version of Free Bird, encoded at ... either 16, 18 or 20kbit, memory is a bit fuzzy on that... they're barely listenable, but it was better than nothing. Obviously for decent quality you want a much shorter tune, I think about the only one into three figure kbit is Green Day's "The Ballad of Wilhelm Fink", but a typical 3-minute pop song could scrape 64kbit, and the majority are in the 24 to 56kbit range... stereo was entirely optional and really not a good idea for anything under 40~48kbit...) ((this technique was later useful for cramming early media-capable mobile phones full of music, with their roughly Zipdisk sized memory cards... though having the benefit of AAC encoding was a definite boon. AAC mono at 32~48kbit is actually perfectly tolerable...)) Might even try it with a hard drive after that... if I can find a suitable adapter to pipe 12v directly from the lighter socket to the drive that is.
OnionChoppingNinja And in widescreen, no less! I did that with an NES to show how to "properly" plug such a console into a modern TV. Played some Castlevania on it. Keith Brown I mean, you just use the coaxial jack on the back of the TV or the "INPUT" jack on a VCR. OG NES's come with a special adaptor that you can use to plug what the AVGN calls "the devil's pitchfork" into a coaxial jack. You could also find similar adaptors on eBay. Only real problem is latency, which can be mitigated depending on the model, unless you want to play with a light gun.
I would say in a way that you're crazy for doing this, but man, awesome. Love this. I was absolutely amused, kind of as much as your amusement in the video. I miss my floppy disks now and might buy a drive myself now, haha!
I have an ancient floppy disk game called, "Out Of This World." I look forward to playing it again after all these decades. It was my favourite game from the 80386 days.
This is the exact reason why I watch this channel--because of batshit crazy antics like hooking a floppy disk drive and an IBM Model M up to a phone for the specific purpose of playing Commander Keen. My life is made whole.
Wouldn't it be funny to lug that model m keyboard around, plop down on a park bench and start sending texts with it. Just to see the look on people's faces.
@@JustWasted3HoursHere I would do odd stuff like that just for laughs
RichardKidd2010 Yes PK
Yes very impressive on the surface?
Unfortunately yes :)
I love how old tech can merge with new tech via dongles. Its like magic
Gotta love the raw versatility of Android
Only if apple would use dongles the right way
Linux power
@@Digalog I love Linux. It works with basically everything
It’s not magic, it isn’t even smart...it’s called usb (universal serial bus) UNIVERSAL! dumbasses!!! And for the record,you can use that usb floppy on an iPhone as well, clearly no one here is smart enough to fully utilize your iPhone to its full potential. SHOCKER that Apple users are useless 😂😂😂 idiots.
I thought you were just some random nerd until I watched further and realized that you're just some random mad genius.
whats wrong with being a nerd? you got something against nerds? ...
Albert Einstein lmao
And you think Einstein was a genius??? He got lucky but most of his theories inaccurate hence why we have to make quantum physics to vill the huge voids Einstein left he is nit nearly the genius people credit him to be
@@jacksong6226 dude ta fak
Check out Techmoan on here if you want to see more... I guess obscure technology from the past. Like I never knew that wire recorders existed. New reel to reel players and strange devices that barely lasted a year
Are you kidding me? This is absolutely pointless and a complete waste of time. I LOVE IT!
:D
Right, exactly the whole point of LGR. :D
This is probably the most needlessly complicated way of playing DOS games ever
I love it
Could you imagine going to the coffee shop, pulling your new $1,000 phone out of your pocket along with an OTG cable (nothing really spectacular)...but then pulling out a 3.5" diskette drive and a diskette I could just hear and see it now, dead silence and death stares HAHA!!! Excellent.
Hey man it’s a lot more portable than a Kaypro :p
If you used a less magnificent (and heavy) keyboard the whole kit would weigh less than my laptop.
David Key He was just showing us how it would actually work and I think it's HELLA cool. Android rocks!!
Backwards compatibility
Level god
How about RS232 usb adapter in the OTG? I have heard that it works as well. I could contact my 2020 phone with my 1982 CNC lathe and run it with the dos software from 1995 if I wanted to.
That's why I'm tired of the shit Microsoft and Sony give the players that want it but it's "too difficult and ridden with technical issues"
The really UNIVERSAL use of USB, which can provide us extreme backwards compatibility.
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Anyone ever wonder why your "newer" PCs start with drive C:?
What's happened to Drives A and B; why are those designations still reserved? (still for floppy access?)
This was cool . Crazy we have more power in our pockets than we did in the 90's with those huge power hungry PCs.
Lon.TV yep times sure do change
The craziest thing - we've had it for many, many years. Many early 2000s mobile devices were already powerful enough to run ports of games such as DOOM, or even fully-fledged emulators like those for the PSP (it can even run PS1 and Nintendo 64 stuff!) - they just didn't have neat USB ports like now our phones do. Later in the decade, we would have e.g. SEGA saying that the original iPhone was as powerful as the Dreamcast (kotaku.com/5026060/sega-the-iphone-is-as-powerful-as-the-dreamcast). We _do_ have more power in our pockets than _desktops_ in the 2000s, and in fact more powerful than most were like five-ten years ago - think 1-4 GB of RAM, early Intel Core processors with two cores, quite competent GPUs for 1080p games at most... and now compare to flagships which can be bought from as little as $400-500 when looking well enough, or even cheaper phones.
espectalll And we use this power generally for posting food and hips on instagram
NuntiusLegis Some USB-C devices support DisplayPort and/or HDMI, sooooooooo yeah, could be possible?
Arm cortex A73 can do 6,35 (25 with 4 cores) practical instruction per cycle (a A9 can do 2.5 for reference, 10 with 4 cores)
(A7, A8 and A9 have simular design, A15, A32, A35 and A53 have similar design, but A53 have more power, Simuarly A57 and A73 is somewhat similar)
That calculate 1.5Ghz for the A9 and 2,8Gz for the A73.. Giving us 7,5G instruction per second for A9 (2 core) and 70 for a A73 (4 core).
So lets se if we can find a simular older CPU in performance.
Closest match for a A9 dual core is a AMD Athlon XP 2500+ that at 1.8Ghz preform 7,52Gips.
Closest match for a A73 at 71Gips is a AMD Phenom II X6 1100T at 78Gips.
A9 with this specification hit the market around 2009, the XP 2500+ hit the market around 2001.
A73 hit the market 2016 and the Phenom II X6 in 2010.
So it would seam like the mobile CPU lag about 6-8 year after. This is not quite correct. Generally the Mobile CPU take a lot longer to reach market, up to two years longer. Neither desktop CPU was top tear either. Closest top tear to the A73 would be a Intel Core i7 920 (4-core). Now we talking 2008.
Ad 1 or 2 exta years for mobile CPU to hit mass market, and that would give 9-10 year lag. Its stil pretty close.
The diffrance on the GPU side is quite a bit bigger.
One importante take a way from this is that stationary CPU of the same year generaly have a lot higher IPC. Intel Core i7 920 from 2008 have over 7 while A9 from 2009 have only 2,5.
Simuarly for 2016 the A73 have 6,3 while Intel Core i7 from the same year have over 10.
But it seams like the gap is closing. The IPC race seams to be over. The same way the frequency race was over in early 2000. Now we are on the core race.
That said. For single threaded aplication, mobile CPU pretty much cought up
This video is so 90's!
I mean, not just the game and the tech. I mean the method and the madness. "I've never really tried this before, but I mean, theoretically it should work. It has a slot for it, right?"
That was the mentality of computers in the 90's. If it looked like it could fit, you went out to the store and checked if they had something that could fit that slot. If not, you went through all your catalogs to try and find something, then ordered it, waited 3 months for it to arrive, tested it and hoped for the best. And sometimes it worked.
And 15-20 years later, one of the dudes that did all that made a phone in pretty much the same way, and now we're all watching another dude from that same era doing the same thing to that type of phone. Some even watching from that type of phone.
Nah there was a bunch of stuff that fit but that didn't work -- the 90s was terrible for it -- like people were plugging Atari joysticks into their PC com ports and wondering why it didn't work. -- Today everything is USB and you can just plug it in and it will work. Hence how he's able to plug a floppy drive into his phone. ;-)
@@BrainSlugs83 atari isn't a 90s pc though...
i just plugged a xbox360 wireless usb antenna to a Samsung note 2 multimedia dock...
i dont know how but it recognized my wireless xbox360 controller and a playstation sixaxis one via bluetooth at the same time while connected to a crt sony trinitron wega with a hdmi to component adapter.
Played Zelda Ocarina of time.
now i tried with my Samsung note 4 and the joysticks are not seen by android :C but i think i can change my rom from XDA developers to make it work
I have the same phone he does lol
@@morphman86 no, but 90's pc's did have serial ports, which used the same connector as an Atari 2600/7800 joystick. But, if you really want to be OCD about it, he could have said Genesis controller, and it would have been the exact same connector, with the exact same result as the Atari controller, just with a controller for a console that was around in the 90's. But that's really all just semantics here. His point was that the serial (COM) port had the DB9 plug, just like MANY joysticks, but the serial port was not compatible with those DB9 console joysticks.
This brought back so many memories. I remember in the 6th grade, I used to Cary around a floppy disk full of "rare" Dragonball Z pictures I would find on internet explorer whenever I had a chance to use the internet. That noise is so nostalgic.
I too had floppy disks with "rare" manga and anime pictures saved from any online terminal I could find back then... Some took like five minutes to load on screen on our family offline 386.
"Clint just use the touchscreen of your phone"
"NO, I WANT A KEYBOARD AND A FLOPPY DISK DRIVE D:
I'm a simple man. I see a video about plugging a disk drive into a smartphone, and I click.
(No, seriously, this is god-tier geekery. This is why I love your channel.)
This is absurd and insanely brilliant at the same time.
I've been a fan of your channel for a while now, but this was probably one of the most delightfully unnecessary and manical cackle-inducing videos I've seen. Thank you for reminding me about the time I used to get my mom to buy shareware floppies at the local Revco.
This is like having a horse tow my car.
Dude, you totally missed an opportunity to mention that this can't be done on an iPhone.
I'd say it's more like having a car tow a horse.
William Kulich except that's actually a thing (horse trailer)
Yes it's gone too deep into obsolete tech this time.
More like using a car to replace the horse in a chariot.
Man, 50 years from now there will be a dude loading a PlayStation 10 game from a quantum calculator and people will be like "it's not that impressive"
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Truuuuue
50 years? that's gonna happend in 10 years!
Kind like we do know with Doom runing on calculators and smart fridges.
That was just delightfully random :D I'm actually very impressed it worked as well as it did.
This is glorious nonsense of the highest order. :P
I was thinking the exact same thing.
No, what's nonsense are the people who call storing things on these floppies secure. The drives are available on Walmart.com for $20.
You're joking, right? Both the Pentagon and Norway's Doctors are examples of people not only still using the technology on a regular basis but also claiming they're more secure than alternatives. gizmodo.com/norways-doctors-still-use-floppy-disks-and-theyre-more-1733353595 and cloudhesive.com/pentagons-use-of-floppy-disks-probably-safer-than-newer-technologies/
And to be fair, converting an 8 inch floppy drive to USB is tougher and more expensive than 3.5 inch, since those just exist as end market products, but it's certainly not impossible.
I have never even seen an 8 inch floppy, and I have been computing for 30+ years... So, it's safe to say that those are RARE. They were rare and obsolete even in the mid 1980s.
love the clicky sound of the keyboard, I miss that.
@@iamnid I totally would if I had a desktop setup! First thing I'd fire up would be One Must Fall 2097 on DosBox mmm.
@@Fractal_blip so many awesome ones out there now!
Can we have a Doom LAN party using smartphones?
That could be awesome!!!!
Theoretically, there are USB C Lan adapters for android… So YES
OR you can install gzdoom app and play via wifi
Install KALI on it, and run Duke Nukem 3d Multiplayer!
It is actually possible to use a USB Ethernet cable and make this in to a LAN party. But you could just go regular Wifi. But hey, what would be the fun in that right? :P
I bought this version of DOS Box because of this video and I can say it was definitely worth the $3.49
Phone: hi my friend
Floppy: *I'm your friends grand father.*
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Easily one of the best video titles ever!
Thank you, sir!
YES A RABBIT! !
Everything working as expected, in a configuration that was not expected when they were made.
How great are USB and the related standards.
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Totally agree. The fact any of this works is both surprising, and not at all surprising... brilliant!
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I love how delighted Clint is by plugging a Model M into a phone in order to play DOS games.
The ultimate "Because I can" attempt. Love it!
The most surprising thing in this entire video was that the USB hub wasn't woodgrain finish! ;)
I was actually more suprised about the fact that he OPENED AN .exe FILE ON A PHONE!
350Z boi It's dosbox. It's not that surprising. DosBox has been on android for a while
I know, i mean you probably can't play post-2000 games. It was just weird seeing it for the first time
LGR, you're just the best !!! Greetings from Toulouse, in France.
That was pretty awesome. Such a mating of technology separated by decades. It's almost like time travel. Thanks LGR for the trip.
And now grab a bunch of friends with their phones, have them bring some old keyboards, install Doom on their phones with DOSBox using a floppy drive, have them plug in an Ethernet adapter and the keyboard into a hub, the hub then to OTG, and to the phones, connect up the Ethernet adapters to a local network, and play Doom on the phones, on old keyboards, installed from a floppy, over LAN! How cool would that be?
No need for Ethernet, the phones already have Wi-Fi...
@@BrainSlugs83 Where's the fun in that?
And use a dial up modem.
Maniura no
Maniura I had DOOM running on DosBox on my iPad mini! It ran great! I even had a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard so it was fully functional. It wouldn’t be too difficult to hook up a Head to Head lan party!
@@andregon4366 And plug the phone's screen to a CRT monitor
So cool mixing old and new gears together! I really enjoyed that one!
I am efing amazed. That DosBox it's simply crazy. This give me the feeleing that our phones have so much more potential than we are giving credit to. I don't know, i love this crazy stuff you do. Keep doing it please. I dream with a world where every sphone runs DOOM natively, being played with a rusty plastic keyobard like that. Floppy hugs to you from Argentina 🤗
The interface is the limitation. This video shows that very clearly IMO. Smart phones are on par with PCs 10 years ago. Pretty fast, but they still have a long ways to go and battery capacity as well as being limited to passive cooling is certainly a limiting factor.
I really liked Microsoft's idea of being able to connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to a phone and use it as a low powered desktop. It's too bad that their phone's OS was so crappy. -- It would have sold better if it had been compatible with Android. -- They'd still be making phones today if they had been.
@@BrainSlugs83 i forgot windows phones even existed
@@BrainSlugs83 I disagree about Windows Phone OS, I liked it far more than Android and IPhone, they couldn’t break into a flooded market because of the duopoly. Windows Phone 8.1 and then 10 were fascinating and easy to use for a windows pc user. Live tiles were pretty cool once you got the hang of it.
@@BrainSlugs83 Microsoft/Nokia had a 50 megapixel phone camera when the others were at 8-12mp. 😮
‘Hug a Floppy Disk’ - With your affection, it may become a Hard Disk.
;)
Please don't ruin for us what Clint does in his spare time. This is a PG channel. I'm sure he has various personal relationships with older equipment that are none of our business.
;)
:3
:3 Of course someone had to make it weird
I love it
I love your video I went one step further I hooked up my phone to an external monitor via USB C to USB split C splitter Hooked up my printer ball mouse pad And everything you just did Awesome stuff man
Using an IBM Model M to play DOS games, loaded directly from a floppy, on a mobile phone... If that isn't the most LGR thing I've ever seen, then I don't know what is...
And played with an IBM Model M
What a time to be alive!
Yeah, much better than being dead and rotting away.
Always looking at the bright side of life, that's what I like about you Frank.
StockyDoccy, look at the bright side, quite probably you will be reincarnated later as a Chinese or inbred muslim... ;) Don't worry, life will be nothing like it is for you today!
My money's on technology advancing enough in about 50 years that we can upload our consciousness to the internet, so if you're younger than 30, immortality is a very real possibility for you.
Psythik But how would you know, whether the uploaded and duplicated consciousness is the "real you" or just a copy and a consciousness of its own... When you die, your consciousness doesn't just magically reappear in the copy, although it seems so from an outside observer's perspective.
I just love how happy and excited you were when the keyboard worked. The giggles tell it all. You really do it for the satisfaction, and you love it.
This is the smartest thing I've seen all week! BRILLIANT! Smashing job as always!
I send config files to Cisco routers and SSH into Outlet Gateways with my Note 8 using a Terminal emulator, a USB OTG adapter, a USB Serial cable, and a USB network adapter. It works flawless every time and saves me from having to carry around a laptop.
LGR: *plays DOS games from a floppy drive with a PS/2 keyboard*
iPhone users: 😵
@@realvivifromloona sorry I'm german and my english is not so good. That you take my little mistakes so closely shows that you're just an Apple fanboy.
@@realvivifromloona The comment is relevant to the video as he's saying that iPhone users are sad that they cannot do this. You're probably one of those users that he's referring to. You're mad salty bruv.
@@fungusaz4887 yeah he's being a dick. This is the internet not an English assignment.
@@realvivifromloona triggered!
@@realvivifromloona again . . triggered!
There's something very satisfying about sticking older things into newer things! Great work mate! :)
Thats what I told my lawyer
Wood grain, of course.
resident grigo
You know he had to 😎
I alreadey have seen the computer and the floppy drive. Now I also like the phone.
resident grigo You mean the phone? Of course it had to be woodgrain. This is LGR we're talking about, after all. Woodgrain is a necessity.
What else could it possibly be?
@@4Wilko With LGR, he'd probably jump at the possibility of a phone with an all-wood body.
Actually, there is a wood called 'lignim vitae'. Supposedly a wood that's even tougher than ironwood. Now I'M getting interested in the possibility....
reading a 3.5 floppy from an android phone "amuses me endlessly"
Next up on LGR: Connecting a punch card reader into a smartphone 😂
Theoretically it's possible
Dot matrix printer.
Couldn't you just use the camera?
XD XD XD
Bet
When the disk drive is larger than the computer and screen together...
G. Confalonieri XD, YUP
8:52 it is so funny to see an Android phone controlled by an IBM keyboard 😂
I laughed out loud when he took out the keyboard. Never change.
I was waiting for him to pull out a keyboard I remember doing some otg things on the Nexus 5 way back when
What?!! Old DOS game playing on a Android phone off a floppy? Mind blown.
Not as mind blowing as Android running on a old DOS PC.
The amount of joy you get from this makes me happy!
Never has posting pictures from a Mavica to Twitter been easier!
Wonderfully silly, but so very cool!
Hahaha! I have a mavica right here that just needs a charger. You just gave me and idea.
I think he made a video about Mavicas :-)
Very cool video Clint!
Please keep the videos coming!
I love that you connected the keyboard....
ah, I see you are a funnee boi
Cameron Massey 😎
Me too
Max Mass we're everywhere
RoachDoggJr I love seeing roach dogs in different comment sections
Man, I’ve been enjoying your videos for a while now but, this one connects with me especially. Thanks for all your work! I am thoroughly entertained...
I never even knew this was possible until now
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Normaly you use the USB for HDD connection.
There was a time when I was learning to speedrun Quake that I played during a trip using a Android phone, a USB mouse connected via OTG and my older phone (that had a physical keyboard) connected via Bluetooth to act as a keyboard
Obviously it wasn't anywhere near playing on a PC but I had the idea and wanted to know if it was possible :P
Super cool use case for USB OTG. I've used that feature for a while to connect USB sticks, hard drives, and an OTG SD card reader to an older phone I use as a backup device for photos out in the field. It's too bad not all phones support the feature. The powered USB hub was a good idea. You don't want to try pulling too much power directly from the phone.
The phone can supply up to 500mA; not sure how much the floppy drive would consume, but if it went over, smartphones have pretty sophisticated internal regulation circuitry so I'd expect it to deal with an overcurrent situation relatively gracefully (i.e. shutting down the USB bus without damage). Still would drain the batteries though.
I dunno how much power does that thing need but I even managed to connect a usb midi piano keyboard to my phone, the DAWs work with that too out of the box
I think with USB-C it goes up to 900 mAh but I may be wrong. Anyway, no more hesitation - I'll order a hub like this one, with USB A, HDMI and VGA. Yay.
P.S. I had a Lumia 950 XL with display dock until last month ... They purged all emulators from the store in early 2017, or maybe even earlier. GRR.
I use USB OTG on my phone together with a powered USB hub to transfer all my photos from my 5D Mark III's CF card (via a reader) to an SSD I use for travel. It was great :D
"Not very impressive on the surface"? This is the most impressive thing I've seen today. Please keep doing this kind of thing!
Holy cow - you never could have told me that Android has floppy drive support!
That's Linux for ya
It’s just usb mass storage presumably
Meh Android has a very different userland than desktop GNU/Linux. This is one of those things that I'd expect to be supported at some level but not exposed to the user without hackery.
XCVGVCX still the floppy divers are probably part of the linux kernel
lots of usb devices intended for PCs work on android, though. ethernet adapters, usb hard drives, keyboard and mice. after seeing this, i wouldn't be surprised if you could connect a DVD reader as well. Maybe even a DVD writer? Android is not just a phone OS. Tablets can use it too, and some tablets are used as laptop replacements with keyboards attached. A wide support of peripherals makes sense for this use case, when it's already supported by the kernel.
The thing that amuses me the most about Android USB peripherals is when you plug in a mouse, a cursor shows up on screen automatically!
+David Wegmuller My Amazon Fire HD8 tablet does that too (FireOS is basically a reskinned version of Android with the Google Play Store removed...before I put it back).
Android is based off of the Linux kernel the same as any Linux distro so really none of this should be surprising. At the same time it's like finding an easter egg in a video game.
That's not too surprising if you dig into the underlying systems;
You'll find that mouse, keyboard and touchscreen are all unique devices recognised by the system.
But it's also worth remembering that:
1. Linux kernel (thankfully none of the god-awful GNU crap on top of it though.)
2. Android exists on more than just phones; Also includes tablets, set top boxes, small laptop-like devices, single chip computers, etc.
So, the underlying system has to support a bunch of different form factors, several of which by definition lack any touchscreen hardware.
Just plugged in my mouse to my phone, and had myself a good laugh. Never would have expected that to work.
+KuraIthys Why do you not like the GNU packages?
I’ve just this minute transferred images from my Sony Mavica floppy disc camera to my android phone! Thanks so much for the great video!
It's so disheartening watching things like this be totally possible on an Android device whilst knowing just how many hoops I'd have to jump through to achieve the same thing on my Apple iPhone.
Peanut Turner At least you can do ot. I’m pretty sure I can’t do that on my Sony Ericsson Z310i (the best of what 2007 technology could offer).
It's so disheartening to see how many UA-camrs don't have LG K7 phone cases.
I don't think you could even do it on an iPhone!
Apples business model is awful. They only let you do what they want you to do. And they tell you what you want to do. I like to do whatever I wanna do with my tech. Like make my own ringtone or have my own wallpaper, play my own music from cd's I've ripped to MP3. You know, use your stuff.
What? You *can't* do this on iPhone, no matter how many hoops you jump through. It's not possible
This just shows why I will never return to iOS. Best thing about Android is that all those things just work. If you can hook it through USB or in any other way, there is a way to make it work on Android.
And actually I've used Android phones for DOS gaming for quite some time. Bluetooth keyboard and a way to connect phone to TV, even wireless connection is good enough if you don't mind extra 50 ms lag.
On iPhone you can't even run DosBOX, because Apple forbids emulators in AppStore.
Leeki85 I think it’s about what the end user wants. I’ve been using Mac since about 1994 and have no use for DOS (and can’t imagine a MAC user from that era would want to), though I appreciate the novelty of loading it onto a phone, but my iPhone does everything I want to do and I don’t feel constricted. I find shoehorning certain experiences into a phone just doesn’t work, though with some accessories (eg a game pad or a keyboard) there is some limited functionality. If I need more I just go back to my laptop.
I used. To think the same way when I had my Sony Xperia phone but honestly now. I just want my phone to make calls, write texts, video calling is handy and some light boredom browsing or UA-cam browsing and I find iPhone far superior for those things. Anything else like gaming or emulation I have a windows laptop and a Modded OG Xbox. You can’t beat iOS for ease of use and not having to keep messing about with cache cleaning etc. With Android your forever sorting it out to keep it running nice
@@LeeBondo In the future smartphones won't even have a touchscreen or any sort of interaction. It will just do what it wants you to want it to do.
Friggan floppy disk!!! I haven't seen those since 07!!! And u connect it to a darn smart phone!!! Where were you when i needed you in highschool?!!!!!!!!! New subscriber
To show you the power of _international standards_ I split this Type-C port in half!
IE EE
Goofy? Yes
Unnecessary? Yes
Awesome? Yes
Sounds like LGR
Drink a Beer and Play a Game #madscientist
:D
You’re telling me that I can put doom 2 on a floppy disk and put doom 2 on my phone if I wanted to?
yay.
Chef Of Chernobyl it takes multiple floppy disks, you would need to install it
There is a port of Doom 2 in the appstore. Alot easier
@@alphatrion100 not when this was posted 7 months ago
If you could also manage to run a dot-matrix-printer with this configuration you would have a perfect mobile office ... from 1989's point of view
I had to interface a dot matrix printer at work for a POS-like application. IT had a built-in USB port and a RS-232 port (I'm not surprised)
I can already see everyone walking around with their wicked floppy disk drives to use on their phones.
It is so cool you can use retro stuff with contemporary stuff. Thanks for telling us about dos box. Didn't know that program existed. Great video.
The best thing about a model m is that you can rest your phone between the f keys and top row, and have it in a perfect propped up position
This is so cool, this is good for checking the floppy disks at flea markets, thrift stores or yard sales. Because to know what game or data is on the disk.
Matt R That would be a total shock to anyone, especially the seller of the disk.
Oh! That's a pretty good idea!
It’s a good way to check the disks being given away, I seen people getting rid of their floppy disks and they have boxes, and can’t tell if the game is actually in the disk, but with disk drive connected to the smartphone, this will be easier to know which disks are either blank or have the actual game.
It's also a pretty good way to copy the data to your phone and not paying for the disk :)
Or what viruses may be on the disks, I think I'd skip questionable media like that at yard sales.
Man this video was really good. Great seeing what modern hardware can do with legacy hardware. And it has a really heart-warming charm to it.
That was Linux's buffer cache. Once it reads from the floppy it holds it in buffer cache until it either 1) needs that memory back or 2) the device node disappears. Your unplugging the drive made the latter happen.
Ok, without my Linux kernel dev hat on - I thoroughly enjoyed this! How fun! This put a smile on my face, especially with the Model M on the hub! I didn't even know OTG worked with hubs.
TheWolfkit
I'm glad I read the comments before making my own.
I use a powered hub on my droid to transfer photos from a CF card of my DSLR (via a card reader) to an SSD I use for traveling. This setup saves me so much space, went with me to New York, Rome, etc :D
it worked with hubs, I've used my phone with 1TB NTFS external hard disk, mouse, keyboard, FAT32 pendrive, printer and LAN adapter all connected to USB hubs which is then connected to the OTG to my phone and they worked fine (I used them when my laptop was broken and sent for repair under the 4-year warranty)
note that not all phone can read NTFS format, it's just luck... the format that all (android) phones could read is FAT32 (and probably some others like exFAT as well, not sure about that)
This is absurdly awesome, it's just so ridiculously impractical that it makes me jump with joy.
I'm just realized that I've had a nonstop smile from 3:04 till the end!
This is absolutely ridiculous and I love it.
This is awesome.
Coming up next, LGR plugs a usb Zip drive to.a phone, and plays duke Nukem off of it XD
Ifone11: 4 cameras
Android: floppy drive
Iphone*
When I get my iPhone 11 I’m definitely gonna find a way to make it read floppy disks tbh
@@khoado2060 what about the front camera
@@av28379 r/woooosh as fuck
CyberXarex YT what’s the joke
Tech is pretty amazing. If you were to travel back to the 80's or 90's and tell them that would be able to play computer game on a phone, they would not believe you.
Moonbeam they would probably think you did not know what the word phone meant.
Given the size of phones in the 80's and 90's we are quickly heading back that direction to bloated sized phones.
Adam Hovey, When I was a kid, we could barely stream music from internet. If you told me that we can stream videos in 1080p I surely would be mesmerized.
as you can stream in 4K today. That's even more amazing
Thea Blanca even 8k
OTG USB adapters are handy AF
for some reason now i want a usb floppy disk drive for my windows 10 pc to play doom kind of how it was intended.
love this retro pc related videos of yours, some many things i would love to have.
Right, next up, hook up a Commodore 1541 to your Android phone through Zoomfloppy and access floppy disks through a Commodore 64 emulator on the phone! (And then play games with a Competition Pro joystick using an Atari-joyport to USB converter.)
ohhhh. think of all that CP/M software with the C128 emulator?
Better yet, somehow get the phone to use an Action Replay MK 2 Cart 😉👍
"LGR Thing" - Where we don't ask "Why?" - We just shrug our shoulders and say, "Why not!" :D :D
i’m well aware i’m four years too late but i am so glad you too saw the otg adapter in the note8 box, and immediately jumped to “what ridiculous usb things should i try and run by phone?”
I posted a half joking comment about using a USB hub, and 2 seconds after submitting it you took out the model M.
I about did the same. LOL 😂
same
A really good reason for Android over iOS
David Herrera iOS should be able to do this too with the Camera Conversion Kit dongle as long the USB floppy drive makes it think you're plugging in a USB storage device. The only thing really preventing it is the lack of a similar app on the App Store
Indeed it works flawlessly. To avoid carrying the laptop around old winding machines (1980s) to load programs from floppy disks and upload to machines via serial cables, I am using a Galaxy S3 phone, DosBox, a usb floppy drive, a usb-RS232 serial converter and done! Saved me a lot of time and headaches!
Awesome!!!!!
Did you just copy that floppy?!
Definitely need to have this as an option for emulator gaming. A keyboard for old PC games, and a controller for NES, Game Boy, and so on.
Touch screen controls suck, especially for emulation.
Amy Carter Wired/wireless controllers are a must when it comes to SNES/Gameboy etc emulation.
I'm amazed and surprised!
I've already used pendrive and keyboard via OTG and USB hub, but two things I've never thought that were possible:
1) Enough current (I mean Amperage) to make the floppy drive work;
2) Compatibility with the good old DOS, after all Android is just a Linux flavor!
I miss those simple and funny old DOS games!
*_Unscrupulous Nonsense_* would make a really rad band name, just sayin.
The floppy drive even works in our car. as I had pictures on it, the car read them and even played some of the audio files I put on there too!
Oh shit, I have GOT to try that now. If my car's already super finicky stereo can read a floppy drive through its USB port I'll wet myself laughing, given that it has enough trouble with memory sticks. And I'm of a suitable age to have been there at the birth of MP3, when we didn't really have enough hard drive space to store any kind of meaningful full-quality collection, but there were endless stacks of spare floppies, as well as Zipdisks ... therefore, I still have, buried somewhere in a backup archive, at least a Zip's worth of floppy-sized MP3s all ready and good to go for a second airing, 20ish years later.
(the trick was, of course, to adjust the encoding bitrate to suit the length of the music, to keep it just under that magic 1423.5kb ... with the game being to predict it as closely as possible. I don't think I ever got it exact, but quite a few had to have subtle early fades applied to their original rip WAVs in CoolEdit to squeeze in under the limit, and there was at least one where adding an ID3 tag pushed it over the edge... It was a long time before first VBR, and then ABR arrived, so that wasn't an option. Longest ones I have are Bon Jovi's "Dry County" and the full length version of Free Bird, encoded at ... either 16, 18 or 20kbit, memory is a bit fuzzy on that... they're barely listenable, but it was better than nothing. Obviously for decent quality you want a much shorter tune, I think about the only one into three figure kbit is Green Day's "The Ballad of Wilhelm Fink", but a typical 3-minute pop song could scrape 64kbit, and the majority are in the 24 to 56kbit range... stereo was entirely optional and really not a good idea for anything under 40~48kbit...)
((this technique was later useful for cramming early media-capable mobile phones full of music, with their roughly Zipdisk sized memory cards... though having the benefit of AAC encoding was a definite boon. AAC mono at 32~48kbit is actually perfectly tolerable...))
Might even try it with a hard drive after that... if I can find a suitable adapter to pipe 12v directly from the lighter socket to the drive that is.
@@markpenrice6253 You stored MP3s on floppy disks? CD burners were a thing by that time.
Joke's on you, you'd need a mouse or keybo..
LGR: hold my beer.
Now you only need a carrying classifier case to take your Model M and floppies and then you can play ANYWHERE! MIND BLOWN!!!
Ahhh.... I miss that old fashioned read/write sound.
Brian Rich The genuine office sound of being hard at work.
I'm still impressed. Half the time back then these things wouldn't "just work" even when they were used as intended.
Never thought of using a USB floppy drive on a Phone before, and think it's awesome that it works. :-)
Reminds me of the time I plugged my parents Atari 2600 into my 55 inch 1080p TV.
How did that go? Am curious.
It worked fine. Pixels were gigantic, but the games are still fun after all these years.
Pixels must be about as big as the screens on which those games where originally intended to be played on.
OnionChoppingNinja And in widescreen, no less! I did that with an NES to show how to "properly" plug such a console into a modern TV. Played some Castlevania on it. Keith Brown I mean, you just use the coaxial jack on the back of the TV or the "INPUT" jack on a VCR. OG NES's come with a special adaptor that you can use to plug what the AVGN calls "the devil's pitchfork" into a coaxial jack. You could also find similar adaptors on eBay. Only real problem is latency, which can be mitigated depending on the model, unless you want to play with a light gun.
That’s like last Christmas when I connected my old SNES into my parents’ new 4K TV.
I would say in a way that you're crazy for doing this, but man, awesome. Love this. I was absolutely amused, kind of as much as your amusement in the video. I miss my floppy disks now and might buy a drive myself now, haha!
The kind of stuff I am subscribed to this channel for.
This just made my day, complete madness. Brilliant!!
I love it! I know I'd never do any of these things myself, but it's so much fun to watch you do it.
I have an ancient floppy disk game called, "Out Of This World." I look forward to playing it again after all these decades. It was my favourite game from the 80386 days.