Walter Veith reveals this about the SDA church
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- Walter Veith reveals whether or not the SDA church is in apostasy. Watch video and share your comments.
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Amen. I live in Norway but Walter Veith is my pastor. He is a true blessing in Jesus name.
Please ask Mr. Veith, to share some light on the Trinity.
I'd wish to meet him,.i live in Finland
The 7th day adventist church is going through a shaking period is what I believe. As I also believe this Church is the church of God. So speak the truth according to the Word and help those in the church who have gone astray but if they will not listen that is their choice.
SDA is not the remenate church we are still waiting for that for the last days
Keep waiting! @@user-vs7jd4wo9f
@@user-vs7jd4wo9f You are correct. SDA is not the remenate🎉 church. IT IS THE REMNANT CHURCH. GOD'S TRUE CHURCH.God has only ONE... true church. JESUS said to Peter 'upon this rock I will build MY CHURCH and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. He did not say MY churches.
@@user-vs7jd4wo9f, SDA is the only true church of God !!! Unfortunately many people from the SDA church will not be saved. But God has others in other churches...who will accept Jesus and will be part of the SDA church, the remnant church.
I believe SDA is the true church are individuals inside the church that will share the truth, not the conference. I have been to about every church out here. I finally found the truth through the SDA teachings, once; I gave it a chance God opened my eyes to the truth, and; I stayed. I left the conference but not the church that’s the difference.
It reminds me of the 10 Virgins, it's not about the church but individuals who obey and keep His commandments, may He help us to pass the test of time.
Amen and Amen.
That is not the correct interpretation. We are to stand as a church, God will shake His church mightily, and His church will stand pure. We are commanded to attain unity. That is hard to achieve under the current conditions (because we are in that shacking time), but it will happen. That is also the message pastor Veith has given, time and time again.
Amen pastor. Church unity is not what the world preaches: organizational, uniformal or unamity. Church unity is Christ centered.
What makes up a church? Not individuals?
@@user-dr1ml8wp8i Good question. The church is formed out of individuals, nevertheless it is more than that.
The church is said to be the temple of God, we are "living stones". (Stones scattered do not form a building.) And just as a building must have a foundation, the church has the prophets and the apostles as foundation, Christ being the corner stone. The master builder is Christ and we are fellow labourers with Him. And just as the temple, the Holy Spirit is given to dwell in our hearts, "all the building *fitly framed together* groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord".
Also the church is likened to a body. I will not go into details, but the body according to 1 Corinthians 12:27-28, is very well organized. Even thou members and organs individually form the body, there is no body if they do not work together. What you will have is a cadaver, a dead body. The Holy Spirit will not dwell into a dead body. So we cannot say that, I will separate myself from the church and do my own thing, there is no such a thing.
Also is the same is true, if an individual church body, does not work to attain unity in Christ, and everyone in the church is doing its own thing, is a dead church, the Holy Spirit is not in that church. Nevertheless, there is still hope, when the cure from the Revelation is applied to heal the church. Also, even there are only dry bones, the Holy Spirit can bring life back into them.
🙏💖✝️ Amen! We're living in the last days of world's History of the Great Controversy, and Satan is doing everything he can to destroy, disrupt and to deceive. As the remnant of God's ppl we should be able to discern this. We need to cling to God no matter what happens. We are to leave our life in God's hand, depending on Him alone for our destiny. There are so many things to worry about in this world, but yet we're to subject to our Heavenly Father for our supply, trusting Him in all that He will do for us. Our trials and tests of faith has always been God's way to purify us, to burn up every drop of dross of imperfection that is in us. He is our only solution and only hope. We need to trust God and obey Him in all that He has commanded us.
How do you know we are living in the last days? WVs and yours are typical examples of a CULT since you qualify yourselves with your self erected standards which do not pass with conventional theology.
I love Walter who is right as usual. The Remnant Church comes out of Laodicea but it is not another Church rather it is a purified Church preaching the message with the Power of the Holy Spirit!
Amen..
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@@edwinamatete7475 Have a read of Early Writings chapter 32 "The Shaking"
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Yes I do agree. We will have home churches just like the apostles. We will work to spread the word.
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Remant= That which remains as a part of the original. There will not be another. Like Israel of old we have apostatized, yet there are some who stay true. Don't get it twisted. He's not saying another will arise,just what we have now will be purified.
Amen and Amen 🙏🏽
Great message! It will remain but the luck warm ones will be spet out, those who will buy the eye ointment, the gold and the garment will remain till the end.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first.... 2 Thessalonians 2:3
It is a terrible ordeal, never the less it must take place.
Need not to fear, God will lead this ship safely into the port.
Excellent response. Thank you.
Amen and Amen 🙏🏽
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
A wonderful Bible proven answer from Walter. Praise God that He has told us things before they happen so that when they happen we will know the truth of what is written.
What do you mean
Agree with the message full 100%! As sad as it is.
Our concern is with our new world.
I agree with the professor. So sad but we have hope in Christ. God is not coming for a church. God is coming for those who love and obey him.We preach the message but our lives don’t reflect Christ.
Seems you don't know what is church
Amen.
@rosemutinda3076 or you don't
Of course Jesus is coming for His church.
Ephesians 5:25-27 KJV "Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved *the church* , and gave himself for it; [26] That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, [27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. Ephesians 5:30-32 KJV
For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. [31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. [32] This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Revelation 21:2,24 KJV
And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. [24] And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
I agree 100% With Prof Walter Veith on both statements... God made me aware of this Apostasy in 2015., But He. God also showed me in a Vision that lasted exactly 105 minutes, 41 years ago on this very date 17th May 1983, that the RCC was NOT His church, and one year later showed me in a Dream that the SDA was God's Church, and He, God revealed to me much, much more...ALL BIBLICAL.!!!
We cannot allow sin to come sneaking in..We must be like Our Jesus..
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
I agree with Brother Walter. Amen 🙏🏾
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Pray we'll be among the remnant that goes through to victory.
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This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
I do agree with Pastor Vieth
The Church is not Babylon however Babylon. Is in the church
There must soon be a cleansing of the Church as we read in
Ezekiel : 9 .
SO its more than a shakeing ,its a total clensing of the Laeodecian Church....The call of the Angel of Revelation 18 and the 144 000 will call people out of Babylon into a pure Church .The real Remnant Church.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Yes, I agree with Walter Vieth, on all points. Without doubt there is apostasy in the Church. Eyes and ears that are open can see and hear easily.
Thank God there is a remedy! 🙏 Praise God!
Walter YOU ARE 100% CORRECT God Bless you and yours,,,
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
It''s not about i can agree or not. What the Bible say is the truth, and you CAN'T "correct" the truth.
God bless Pastor Veith 🙏
Amen and Amen 🙏🏽
Perhaps its also important to differentiate between the conference and the Church of God. Like the difference between the Church of God in the time of Jesus and the Sanhedrin coubcil.
I agree.. we are the remnant church.. God is calling in HIS children who are astray. I remember the church growing up was full every Sabbath no seats available.. not the church is half empty.. but then children who were raised in the Gospel even though they are in the world and are coming back.. the church currently IS LUKEWARM but us the remnants will fire it back up.. we will have missionaries every Sabbath giving literature in our neighborhoods and praying for the people like we used to back in the 90's .. having women and man retreats for prayer and connection to God.. having the pathfinder club and the adventures club.. LETS BRING BACK THE FIRE FOR CHRIST!!
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
Thank you so much brother Lawrence for sharing that with us it is such a great blessing.
Surely the church is not apostate but the influence of the GC and some unconverted baptized church members, is making the church to adopt apostate practices in to the Church of God.
Just as Jesus had 12 apostles, one of them was apostate but still it did not stop the early church from being Christ's church.
In the same way Judas Iscariot was shaken out of the fellowship of the apostles, so shall the shaking of the end time Iscariot from the remnant church be.
Time of trial and persecution shall surely expose pretenders for elimination. And awaken the faithful for the proclamation of everlasting Gospel without fear.
Thank you for your time may God bless you brother and your ministry.
Pastor Veith just speaks the truth about the SDA. Most SDA around me are not practicing what they preach.
The logo is an upside down cross wakeup.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
I AGREE 100% WITH WALTER WAKE UP BECAUSE THE DOOR WILL CLOSE VERY SOON ,WE MUST TALK AND FAST
I agree with Pastor Veith.
SDA is not Babylon, but its becoming babylon because of General Conference
Almost, but becoming the sister to fallen babylon is more likely.
We are all responsible for the apostasy in the church, ALL of us. Daniel 9:2,4-5 KJV
In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem. [4] And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments; [5] *We have sinned* , and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:
The SDA church teaches confusion. Babylon is confusion. Thus it is part of Babylon as confusion is at the center of its mission
There isn't an 8th church. {that's correct} The 7th day Adventist
church org isn't the Remnant church. The Remnant are individuals
who are in the SDA org.
Well said. As a church we are wretched, miserable and poor and as a result, there will be shaking out of those who stop preaching the 3 Angels Messages.
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
That is why its not safe to just follow what the church leaders says. It is always safe to follow what the Word of God says through the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Issues like vxn, lgbt, ordination, ecumenism and the likes especially
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
All you people on this video that is agreeing with Pro. Veith, I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW THAT CELEBRATING CHRISTMAS AND EASTER IS BABYLON IN THE SDA church. 75% SDA IS BIG ON THESE PAGAN CELEBRATION. With that said. Pro. Veith is my favorite SDA Pastor that is still in the land of the living (since God put CD Brooks to rest) and I hope God will continue to shower him with his blessings.
Sad but true. The same can be said about ‘Jews’ who aren’t Catholic and even celebrate not only‘Christmas’ but worse : Halloween.
And a pagan trinity god
He is correct. With some of our leaders going into the church of Babylon and being servant to the beast, yes the church is going into a time of great shaking. I am 110ks from my nearest church, and when I do attend I am shocked on where the church is going. Thank to a few good Pastors I am always fed on Sabbath.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
Amen.. the Lord asked me to present this to my church where I live in Antigua and they did not receive it well.
No one wants to believe the true value of keeping God's Holy law
Try sharing with a former Adventist 😳😕🤦♀️🙏🙏
Former SDA’s never been converted.
Powerful pr ❤veith
There will no another but the seed
Revelation 12:17
[17]And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Note that the study of the 7 churches is a walk through the sanctuary: ie, the reward of the church of Philadelphia is to be a pillar in the temple of God, while the reward of the church of Laodicea is to sit on the throne of God .
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
People are shaken but they are still in the church because they are still fixed in their ways in the church.
Thank you Pastor
Veith, God bless you!!
You are such a blessing to many! ❣❣
Walter is absolutely spot on! Right out of the Word of God!. There is light in him for sure.!
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
I also agree with Professor Veith 100%.❤
I am fully confident that in time, the SDA will unite with the Hebrew Roots and Messianic movements to pursue the TRUTH in scripture, and that if EGW were alive today, she would lead in that process. Shabbat shalom to all!
@solomonlapson I agree with you 💯 percent its the conference greed control.and power is the problem.IMO .
Thankful, msge well received. Glory to God Almighty Forever... Amen 🌈🙏
I gree with this massage brother 100%.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
I gree with pastor Walter❤❤
HAPPY SABBATH PASTOR!!!
Thank you for this message. May Our LORD God bless you Pastor Doug Batchelor and brother Lawrence.
There is NO another remnant church COMING.
If it were SO, GOD COULD HAVE TOLD US IN HIS WORD.
Sadly, because of not searching to know the TRUTH, with the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT, and the TRUTH to set them free, many people who have denied the HOLY SPIRIT, by referring Him to the power of God OR the angels of God, and that Jesus Christ has a pre-existance, have left the church, calling it a GC SDA Church, which is teaching TRINITY.
They claim they have the TRUTH, and they are with the TRUTH of the Pioneers.
They read the books of Ellen G. White, that were printed up to a certain known year to them, any book printed after that year, to them, it is apostate.
They have closed out any who would want to guide them to see otherwise.
Ending up to understand the Bible and the SOP in their own understanding, concerning Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, as they read where it favours their reasoning!
My prayer to every SDA, PLEASE don't leave God's Church.
It may look as if it is falling, but God promises He will have His remnants who will stand steadfast and faithful. Let us pray and watching that we be among them. In Jesus' Mighty name. AMEN.
The SHAKING I believe is on going.
He said in Great Degree apostasy take note.
I agree with Walter Veith with what he says. God bless him.
I agree with Walter Veith, I see it happening in our churches and even in others that I have visited in other states. It’s just showing us that time is short and Jesus wants to come and take us home. ❤
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Yes I agree with pastor. Thank you for the message.
Thank you for the message
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Great message , Bro Lowrance. You are doing a great job. The general conference should not allow an ordination of women pastors. Women can do any other gospel ministry works in the SDA churches around the world, but not as pastors. Just my thoughts, I'm
watching from PNG 🇵🇬
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
We should try to come to terms with epesians 5:25-27. Christ loved the Church to death so that He may bring forth a Church without wrinkles.
I'm 100% agree with the message I will say Amen to that.
Appreciate this straight talk.
Amen brother! Could not have said it better.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
Amen,Amen Amen.
Amen and AMEN
Allow God to take care of the SDA church and stop bashing
It’s a most trying ordeal, it will be much more brutal than most believe but those that abide in Christ will produce much fruit for their Masters glory. And they loved not their lives unto death but overcame the dragon by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony. These are only those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus,hallelujah!
Which SDA Church is in question, I understand there are branches of SDAs who differ from each other on doctrine as day and night and only agree on Sabbath
The true Seventh-day Adventists church do not believe in the trinity doctrine which is not in the Bible, the pioneers did not believe it another if we are Bible believing Christians how comes some are accepting this trinity doctrine lie. The pioneers accept the Principles of Beliefs not 28 Fundamental beliefs. Do your own research even our logo is changed.
@@animemegabucket7594 It Is called Confusion
Yes I agree with pastor Walter
I personally have witnessed apostasy in my local church. Ave Maria being performed in main church services, video big screen depicting upraised arms framing the sun, etc.
We really are going through shaking but we will prevail
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
God bless you.
He is right on the ball.
what a great explanation from Pastor Vieth
Not only that, but also, Easter celebrations, mothers day, etc etc
I believe The Gospel is Jesus saving us by grace, not the 3 angels messege.
Amen, well said
The remnants are among the current members but they stand firm in the church and are not deceived by the false teachings and apostasy which is coming into the church
Veith said it right same way it goes Church not Babylon can not never will this Church is the only Church that God supreme regards is on God highest authority is on.this church only and no one can stop that this church must and will triumph forever
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I agree with our Beloved Pastor, our church is really in a sad state but nevertheless God has His faithful children that are daily growing in grace❤
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
Yes I agree totally with Professor Walter Veith.
I agree with Walter AMEN
Yes, i agree. SOP warns us never to call church babylon. Whatever is going on, the sinners will be shaken out of the church, but it will triumph cause Christ is the head of His church. It may appear as though it's going to fall, but it does not. Cause it's built on the Rock.
Agree with prof Walter Veith
It is Not Possible for the Seventh Day Adventist Church to be Babylon, but Babylonian ways are in the Churches through the ongoing apostasies, that are seen throughout the ranks and files, EGW wrote about these things in SOP. The Bible Declares these things in the Last Days, we see them happening, in in light of the fulfillment of Endtime Bible Prophecies.
I agree with Walter Veith.
REVELATION 12:17. We are here.
PSALMS 74:3,4.
REVELATION 12:12.
The Word of God is the Saints defense, let not get caught up in dis-spilling errors. Lift the Truth Up- Jesus the Word and He will draw all Men unto Himself. It's up to us to accept the Truth of Jesus and allow Him to in us and we in Him. Christ Jesus the Lord our Righteousness.
Stand for what you believe is true, there are many false prophets in these last days....some church pastors are attacking other churches because they cannot tell their congregations the truth 🤷
Ì watch Walter Vieth videos all the time and I have never heard a false statement. I never heard from any other SDA speaker associate the spitting out with the shaking but it makes alot of since. He is 100% correct. From USA
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
Yes. I agree with him. But as a person people we need to repent and turn. Be obedient to the God. Then preach the word of God.Go Go
Well said...truth be told, a remnant of a remnant....judgment hasl begun in the house of the Lord.
What Walter Veith said is true.🙏
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
God's people are allí who are sealed. They don't have the mark of the beast. Thunps up my favorite professor. May God continue to bless God's people. Laodiceai is the last period. There is not an 8th church.
There is but one church in the world who are at the present time standing in the breach, and making up the hedge, building up the old waste places; and for any man to call the attention of the world and other churches to this church, denouncing her as Babylon, is to do a work in harmony with him who is the accuser of the brethren.. TM 50.2
Wheat and tares will grow together, but God will have a people who will not bow down to the false worship system that is being introduced in the Church. The remnant will call out the confused ones in "Babylon". "Those who are sighing and crying for the abominations done in Jerusalem " will be sealed.
Sister White said "Strive to be among the hundred and forty four thousand". The Church of God is not Babylon but the state of"Confusion" in the church is what Rev. 18: 1-4 is calling people of God out from. "There is far more to fear from within than from without." We must sigj and cry against the abominations inthe Church or we will not be sealed. Ezekiel 9: 4. Thank you.
The church is not Babylon. We can only be Babylon if we embrace Sunday sacredness and belief in immortality of the soul. Sad that the shaking in taking place now and uncouth things are happening in the church
The system is not apostate but rather some of the members
I don't believe Pastor Veith said there would be another church other than the SDA church that would be a remnant. What I heard was that there would be a remnant of the SDA church THAT WOULD BE LEFT AFTER THE SHAKING.
I believe the head church, GC is in serious apostasy, not Babylon God will cleanse his church. Happy Sabbath brother.
I too agree with the pastor
Note, he didn't say those who push through to the end will leave the church and do their own thing, he said they'll push through to the end and those whose leave to form their own "remnant" are being shaken out because of their own lukewarm state. Much of those who leave are very vindictive, hypocritical and dishonest. God's church may appear to fall but it will not.
😮 Many Luke warm SDAs will be lost.. Many don't keep the Sabbath propery
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
This is total blindness. I do not agree that a church following all the unbiblical doctrines and practices of Babylon could remain a pure church. God does not show favouritism nor such inconsistency and total confusion. Is the Adventist corporate church preaching the three angel's message while worshipping the Trinity and joining with apostate churches in ecumenism and interfaith dialogue? Is she not joining with the state in implementation of Babylonian and secular policies such as Diversity, Equality, Inclusion and Belonging? Is she not silencing and rebelling against the Bible truth on women's ordination and homosexuality and against literal obedience to God's law? Are they not creating liberal churches where they could swing and dance in love and unity without dividing biblical doctrines of repentance and obedience to God's word? Is 24 August Enditnow campaign not a Babylonian child aimed at silencing Bible truth, a complete departure from our fundamental principles and become a social justice movement?
Do we even know what is meant by Babylon in contrast to a pure church? Do we know who is going to be shaken out and from what? Does it mean those who become apostate will leave the SDA church? No way, how are they going to leave when they are the Sanhedrin, the very leading men in charge of the church? That's in unbiblical. The Bible says the little flock who follows the Lamb will be thrown out of the synagogues/churches. And those in apostasy, like in ancient Israel will still continue claiming they are the true God's church and telling people not to leave the church until destruction finds them unprepared just as what happened in AD 70. Remember the Jewish leaders threatened the people of being excommunicated from the church and from salvation if they were found confessing that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah and this historical fact recorded in scripture is repeated again. Do not be deceived, The SDA corporate organisation was not given a blank cheque of once saved always saved. Jesus is not even in the Laodicean church, he is outside knocking. The 144000 are recorded as pure who obtain victory over sin and not defiled by women. Who are the women? They are the 7 churches, the fullness of last day apostasy discussed in Isaiah 4 who reject Bible doctrine and follow their own righteousness just as warned against the church of Laodicea. Save yourselves from this untoward generation. It is a fallacy to believe an unrepentant Laodicea will miraculously become a triumphant church without true repentance. It is the Philadelphia church that will make it while those in Laodicea shall remain sleeping claiming we have the light we are the remnant church . Let no man deceive you, the Bible and spirit of prophecy gives us a clear definition of the remnant church: Those who keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Interestingly the SDA corporate church is proud to be associated with Laodicea, boldly admitting, "That's us the remnant church" but if you point out that the remnant church will obtain victory over sin through obedience and righteousness by faith, having the only truth not found in fallen churches they are which to respond: "That's hypocrisy nobody has absolute truth and nobody can overcome sin". So it only applies in Laodicea because it suits their lukewarmness but not when we show it from scripture that God's remnant church is described as pure, obedient, sealed with the truth and having the Father's name in their foreheads (not Trinity but Father's name) they completely reject and say thats not us we are Laodicea the remnant. But the Bible says, "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Tx Walter. I was told by a SDA just this week, that there is a remnant within the remnant Church?
This is just a sample that the sda church could indeed become babylon fallen.
August 3, 1861, I was shown that some have feared that our churches would become Babylon if they should organize; but those in central New York have been perfect Babylon, confusion. 1T p.271
Amen and Amen. I agreed.
Thank-you for this timely message. I believe that it could be the SDA ministers really do not know the spiritual truth of the three angels messages and only the theory. It is the SDA ministers that are apostate and will be spit out. So, if this is the case than they and we are still Laodecia, we are still part of the same church. I am curious on how far we go in our church to spend all of Sabbath speaking about our own apostate ministers and not focusing on Jesus soon return. I personally am tired of it and I feel a separation of Gods truth through the Holy Spirit on the Sabbath. I have gone away from listening anymore to pastors that spend all of Sabbath speaking about Diope, Wilson, Veith, Bachelor. I am praying for eachone and than worshiping and feeding on Jesus, his character, repentance and reconciliation with him and end time events in the Bible. I am too stressed and burden to be full of negativity about hearing of people on the Sabbath. It has taken a mental toll on me. I am going for my Sabbath morning walk with God and reading the word outloud in nature and home church. I need to get back out there and pass out the books but first I need to heal and feed my spirit. Amen I hope this is not TMI. God bless everyone who is earnest and trying to be closer to God.
Ellen White defined the remnant church clearly and fully in accordance to the bible. God's true Church is not an apostate corporate organisation. Do not become like the theocratic Sanhedrin or the apostate Roman Catholic church, teaching that outside the synagogue or the Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation. Compelling people to stay in the ecumenical ship of apostasy while forbidding them to speak against apostasy lest they get thrown out of the synagogues or great cathedrals and lose salvation. Such teachings leave a lot to be desired. Today, while sighing and crying, crying aloud and diminishing not a word, God's watchmen are threatened with disfellowship, ex-communication, censorship and cancel culture.
The Sanhedrin of the typical Israel taught a similar message of "stay in the church" - even when one could see the armies of Roman Soldiers, even Jesuitism and sun worship, an abomination of desolation in the holy ground - they stayed until destruction in 70 AD. But we are told not a single true follower of Jesus remained in Jerusalem to perish despite false assurance of peace and safety by false teachers and false prophets.
"Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue" John 12:42 "Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews." John 7:13. A striking resemblance to the "Stay in the church, Do not call God's true church Babylon" when the corporate organisation has actually joined herself to idols and worldliness (ecumenism) and in downward spiral towards the great apostasy of Babylon, mixing Churchcraft and Statecraft, following world social policies and UN agenda. While history repeats itself, God's true Church follows the Lamb.
The ship that will sail through is God's true church not an apostate corporate organisation.
Here is what Ellen White said about the church:
Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."
God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; *it is the people who love God and keep His commandments.*
"Where two or three are gathered together in My name, there am I in the midst of them." Where Christ is, even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city, or enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon.
His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles' of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God.
~ Ellen White, Manuscript Releases Volume 17 page 81.
17MR 81.3 - 17MR 81.4
3 angel's messages are the way !