The "what are children but a weakness through them you imagine you live forever" Larys monologue is up there as some of the best lines in the show. "Love stays the hand" that's a brilliant metaphor. The way Larys delivers the whole thing is chilling.
Yes, the casting was excellent. Emma in the birthing scene at the start was absolutely convincing, and immediately won me over... I had been concerned that Milly's performance would be a tough act to follow, but the concern was unnecessary.
Daemon with Baela is like Ned with Arya he just relates to her more. Beaela is a tom boy and a dragon rider like him so its easier for him to engage with her.
Another place D&D fuck up. Tywin Lannister was married to his cousin. Ned Father was married to his cousin. It was common in mediaeval times to marry cousin/aunt/uncle together , to keep the land and wealth in the family. Never understood why people were grossed out by that. Brother and sister on the other hand is something else.
Re Damon - a couple of thoughts that I had after watching and your reaction. One thing I thought interesting in the parallels between Viserys' choice with Aemma and Daemon's unresolved 'choice' with Laena (which she took into her own hands before Daemon could make any choice) is the reaction from the brothers. Viserys is presented with the choice and responds, "You can save the child?" Daemon responds "Will the mother survive it?" I thought this was telling where their focus lay in the situations. I think he keenly feels the loss, but doesn't know how to express it. The look on his face when he witnesses Laena's self immolation to me showed that his heart was breaking. Many people will also point out that a scene was cut that showed Daemon comforting his daughters on the rooftop after Laena's death. I think it was a big mistake to cut this, and should have been left in. He's flawed and despicable in many ways, but he definitely cares about his family (maybe too much, in some instances). As to the daughters, I don't think it's so much a 'first child' situation, I think it's more the daughter has a dragon. Daemon has, I think, for his entire life divided people into two categories - people who have dragons, and people who don't, and the ones worth interacting with are in the previous category. His brother was a dragonrider. Rhaenyra is a dragonrider. Laena became a dragonrider later in life when she claimed Vhaegar, the largest dragon still living and the only one of the original 3 dragons that conquered Westeros. That probably raised her a few notches in Daemon's esteem. I think with the former group he can relate to, not so much with the others. He's clearly obsessed with dragon lore and dragonlords, Laena mentions this episode. He's a bit calmer but clearly still antsy - when he was younger he wanted the glory and the accolades and to be hand of the king and scare people with his dragon for control. But now he's older, he wants to be free from the petty politics and seems mildly content but stagnating in Pentos with his wife and daughters. So he has one child who is a dragonrider and he can relate to her, teach her valyrian and the histories, and the other daughter kind of gets left out in the cold. I don't think he's doing it to punish her, but I think it's something unconscious on his part that she's different from him and not as relatable. Also hell yeah, another euchre player!
I know they cut a lot of his more intimate moments from this season which is disappointing, but also kind of makes sense. It would be like showing all of Jamie's character in the first season of GOT instead of letting his complexities be a slower reveal. Who knows what they're going to change from the book, though.
"Well, I guess she asked for the baby, not for Rhaenyra". Me: Exactly, a lot of folks miss that detail for some reason. I get why Rhaenyra went to the Queen(Alicent) with her baby over having the baby brought to the Queen by someone else, because she was probably afraid Alicent would hurt the child.
Nah, she went up there because the queen wanted her baby "immediately". Rhaenyra, no sane person, would allow someone in that position to just take your baby away seconds after the birth. And just to cover it, modern science and birth practices aside.
why would she hurt the baby ? more such babies stronger her case against rhaenyra. rhaenyra taking the baby shows her own irrational paranoia and only helps confirm alicent's suspicions about fate of her sons if rhaenyra becomes queen.
@@sitting_nut For the same reason Crispin Cole pitted Rhaenyra's eldest son against Alicent's, just to be petty and vindictive. Rhaenyra wasn't going to gamble with her child's life by letting someone else take Joffery to Alicent, even if it does confirm her suspicions.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 so you basically admit rhaenyra certainly is paranoid and petty and vindictive. no other grounds to think and act like that. you are of course free to speculate if alicent is "petty and vindictive" as to "hurt" the new born child (since there is no evidence of that up to this) against her own interest ( since more such children are alive better for alicent's case ) . pure projection on rhaenyra's part, and yours on her behalf. also calling out criminal actions of a petty tyrant like rhaenyra, protected and favored by the king, is not "petty", though it may be vindictive.
@@sitting_nut the same alicent that you’re speaking about literally calls rhaenyra’s children savages for a prank that HER son made up and tried to take a 6 year olds eye. rhaenyra was never petty or vindictive towards alicent at all, it was very much the other way around. only reason alicent asked to see joffrey was because she wanted to see if he looked like laenor. rhaneyra had every right to be cautious considering alicent has treated her like shit ever since she married her father.
Viserys missed a chance to show some spine here. He is the head of House Targaryen and Princess Helaena; as such, he has the final say, by tradition and law, over who Helaena marries, he should have overruled Alicent and betrothed Helaena to Jacaerys.
That's not Jason Lannister. That's his twin brother Tyland Lannister. Played by the same actor ofc. but Tyland's personality is very different from Jason's. Tyland is not the flamboyant philanderer type.
Great reaction as always! I love your ‘to the camera’ look when Viserys was like, ‘what is this shadow?!’ 😂 There’s one more big time jump, but after that and going forward it should be no more time jumps. Looking forward to your take on the next one, always interesting to see who takes which side!
It may be more common than you think - I myself am a 'surprise Joffrey'. Caesar birth and mum passed out, so Dad gave me my first name and that's how I was introduced when she came to. Mum then gave me my middle name - handy when I was trying to avoid the politics of post-divorce...
alot of people in the comments are saying alicent is good and rhaenyra is the bad one or something along those lines. rhaenyra was forced to marry someone who is gay. she is a young woman who has to produce heirs, idc if she was not married to harwin she is targaryen and so are her children. the fact is once viserys remarried he should have named aegon his heir. i personally dont think alicent or rhaenyra are bad, but alicent seems a little salty that rhaenyra got to chose who she loves, even tho her husband likes men
Well if Rhaenys had been named queen at the great council all of this could have been avoided. Viserys was a good man but not a strong king. He would've been much happier and healthier (with his wife probably living a longer life if she hadn't been under the pressure to constantly produce babies in hopes of a male heir) if he'd just remained a prince.
To be fair whenever any other castle burns down the locals think its a disaster. When Harrenhal burns the locals just think its tuesday! Some things are expected!
Just FYI, that was Lord Jason's twin, Ser Tyland Lannister, on the small council as the new Master of Ships. He's smarter and less arrogant than his brother. You can tell them apart because Jason typically wears gold with Lannister red, while Tyland wears green out of loyalty to Alicent.
Angela : "You get a beautiful brunette baby, it's probably not Laenor's......." Yeeeesh. Imagine if such a terrible thing could happen. Perish the thought. Strongly!
I wish the scenes showing Daemon comforting his children would not have been cut from the show. I believe there are too many Daemon fans which is puzzling to the show runners. It seems as if they go out of their way to cut out any scenes showing Daemon’s compassion or at least many of them were deleted.
Totally true. Unfortunately (SPOILERS AHEAD) IN EPISODE 10, Ryan himself said that a "shocking" Scene was added exactly for shock and for people to stop "liking daemon" they don't Know how to pushed down his popularity
@@AnniePelletier1 There's nothing they can do about it. It isn't the character it's the actor. Matt Smith is far too charismatic to be someone you can root against.
@@jthomann71 Exactly, so I don’t understand why they keep trying to make us hate him. He is also a deplorable scumbag that is petty and harsh but he is fool AF.
I wish we'd had longer with adult Laena, she was so awesome ;..; In the book her son was stillborn and she died shortly afterwards from complications from the birth (she tried getting to Vhagar for one last flight). So Laena was going to die anyway but they made it much more dramatic. Also credit to Daemon that he shook his head no when it came to the prospect of cutting her open to try to save the baby.
The books are a bit more ambiguous with Rhaenyra's children. In the books the Velaryon's share many of the Targaryen traits, but Rhaenys actually has black hair despite being a Targaryen, as her mother is a Baratheon, and while her own children don't have black hair, it is very possible for the Baratheon black hair to skip a generation due to their strong genes. This was a plot point in Game of Thrones, as Cersei's children had blonde hair despite Robert being their supposed father, since is most cases of a Baratheon and Lannister having children, they tend to have Baratheon black hair. As the Book of fire and Blood is a history book, we don't get firsthand account of the events transpiring in the story, it's all second hand at best, so we don't see Rhaenyra's relationships from her point of view, just biased sources. So, the speculation about Rhaenyra's children in the books is a lot more nuanced, there is a good chance they're Harwin's bastard sons, but it is also just as possible they're Leanor's sons who just happened to inherit their grandmother's black hair, and their validity as heirs would depend on who you support in the debate. I guess in the show they wanted to remove all doubt about the parentage of Rhaenyra's sons, the Velaryon's have darker skin, and Rhaenys doesn't have the Baratheon black hair, leaving little doubt that Rhaenyra's sons are bastards. Edit: to further muddy the waters, Rhaenyra herself is not a full-blooded Targaryen, her mother was an Arryn, and her maternal grandfather was most likely would have also had dark hair. Her Rhaenyra's mother had Targaryen traits because Rhaenyra's maternal grandfather married a Targaryen princess. So, there is enough no Valyrian blood in both Rhaenyra and Leanor that their children might not have the traditional Valyrian traits, but this is a moot point in the show as it is quite clear in showing they're illegitimate. There is also an irony to Harwin being the father of Rhaenyra's children, back in episode 3 when everyone was telling Viserys who Rhaenyra should marry, when Lionel came forward with a suggestion, Viserys joked that Lionel would suggest his son... Harwin. Lionel stated otherwise, yet as we see here, if they had married so many issues probably could have been avoided, we see thw two clearly care for each other and are good parents. But politics won out in the end. A further irony, the Strongs are a splinter family of the Starks in the north, located in the Riverlands, so despite being distantly related, Rhaenyra's children are still distantly tied to the Starks.
It's usually a one episode adjusting period since there's so much info dump here. But don't worry it sets up everything that's gonna matter in the coming episodes. And by the end of the next episode you're gonna forget these characters were even played by different actors.
I think Criston is so set on being a perfect knight and kingsguard that joffery's comments were a reminder of his own failing as a kingsguard. Especially after Rhaenyra told him his dream would never happen he probably felt it was all for nothing, and being such a perfectionist in a lot of ways, a reminder of one failing is probably enough to cause someone like that to snap. (At least thats the impression I got).
14:15 Pay close attention to what Helena says and it is very important, I wish they had shown us more about Harwin and Laena that watching the series for the agent feels more pain when the characters die, so when I saw the two characters die I was sad for the death of both of them but not to the point of crying for them two characters, you know, I think the writers didn't want to show too much of the two characters for a simple reason and because they probably don't think it's important to the story 22:24 When Laena says she wants her husband back what she married is true because the daemon is depressed and just realizing that he only stays at home reading a book and not sleeping well the daemon gets depressed he misses Viserys and Rhaenyra but he doesn't want to see them, the daemon we know he doesn't see and so 26:43 The daemon had said no with his head but even so Laena died and sad I prefer what they did in the series than the book in the book she loses the baby then she becomes depressed then one night she decides to go to her dragon but on the way she falls down the stairs and dies so I prefer it in the series and it's more exciting because we see her bond with the dragon, Daemon loved his wife so much that he didn't show any sign, he loves her and his daughters only the writers don't show it anymore in the book firewing and blood that he loves his daughters and his wife more Unfortunately, the scriptwriters prefer not to show that there were two deleted scenes, one with the daemon hugging his daughters, the other deleted scene and the daemon sending his daughters to the room because they were seeing the mother in the room trying having the baby so the daemon arrives at the time of Laena's death and was unable to prevent her death 18:19 A curiosity for anyone who has watched Doctor Who, this actor who plays Aegon is the son of David Tennant, he is David, he has worked with Matt, they have both been Doctor Who and now Matt is working with David Tennant's son I recommend you watch Doctor Who, it's very good, this series, if I'm not mistaken, has 13 seasons, it's really worth watching. I recommend you watch Doctor Who.
It's really disappointing that they cut off a scene that stills of have been floating around of Daemon embracing his daughters after Laena's death. Sometimes it seems like they have been intentionally framing his actions as worst than they literally are. Not that he's a saint by any stretch of the imagination, but it feels a little like they want us to think poorly of him, rather than him being the pretty true grey character that he is. It is pretty telling also that when faced with the same situation, Viserys' concern was with the child, and Daemon's concern was with the mother.
@@CoryAndor half the people we follow in this and GOT have killed people. That's pretty normal in this universe. I was speaking into the show's context not our real world context. In the context of the show he is a grey character. I would not like/debate about a real life person who acted this way but since this is indeed fiction, it doesn't matter who I like or what they've done.
@@CoryAndor that's part of there argument him killing his wife was a show creation aka demonizing him by adding bad actions rather then having him be the gray character he's supposed to be .
Ser Criston is clearly being an incel, his anger is not justified lol 10 years later? And you’re mistreating her kids? Excuse me lol btw no punishment for killing a man and assaulting Laenor? He got away with a lot bro, if I’m Laenor he could never be in my presence again without me wanting to feed him to Seasmoke
It's kinda funny / weird to me you cheered on for Daemon for vibing and had a family with Laena (which she's much younger than Rhaenyra) but you look kinda grossed at the idea of Rhaenyra vibing and have a "relationship" with Daemon. 🤣
To the Alicent defenders, why wouldn’t the Queen inform the King of Larys actions? She’s so strong and powerful now, why work with a psycho kinslayer? Lol
Gaah, wish I had paid more attention to when this reaction went up because I just binged all 6 and am left waiting for your next reaction 🤦♀️😂 Could you elaborate on why you're concerned about the safety of Alicent's children?
U gotta pay attention to the things ancients daughter says she has vision's of the future ... Targaryens have a few people in their bloodline with the ability they used to call them dreamers Also I'm pretty sure she just like bugs and has no connection to the guy who kill has his brother and father being burnt to death...
Yep she didn’t ask for it. But someone so pious sure didn’t say a word about it and have a man who murdered his brother and knight and father a lord and hand of king for justice. Hypocrite cough cough hypocrite. Alicent what a saint.
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Rhaenyra such an icon 😍. She just loves whom she wants to love and lets hubby do the same 😍!! Yass!!! Open marriage poly goddess 😍!!.....Well the problem is who you have kids with in this world have consequences for the entire realm. Today you won’t have to worry about being in control of the lives of millions as an absolute monarch. If Rhaenyra wanted to enjoy free love she should've just taken up on Criston's offer and lived up to her heart's desire in the Free Cities, liberated from the shackles of titles and inheritance and such. But she is in love with power. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Sir crispin got his face pummeled. Not much of a fight but we got it. Loved it! Him and the greens only get worse. How people defend them and crispin I have no idea.
First i have to say that this show by far exceed my expectations. That said it is imho a prime example how forced diversity, even done as good as in this case with the Velaryons can have a big impact on characters.. The Velaryons originally where not black so it was possible, with an overabundance of good will, to see Rhaenyra's and Harwin's children as true born Velaryons. This naturally changes f.e. how one has to look at Viserys who is not just a Father who loves his child so much to see clearly but either an idiot or a tyrant who forces everyone by thread of death to ignore the glaringly obvious and forces the Velaryons into giving up the rightful succession of their house knowing full well that this is unjust.
15:26 In England there is an African couple who had a white son, many people started accusing the woman of cheating on her husband with someone else, but no, only genetics makes mysteries that we can not understand. Also in England a mother gave birth to twins and one was born white with red hair and the other was African with curly hair and they are true twins, another interesting case of genetics.
"It's birthing a child through your...(looks at the camera)...body" the coffee I was consuming exited my body through the nose. I've learnt today not to watch your react videos in the middle of swallowing!
Ahem a very curious way of introducing the younger version of the single most significant character of the entire series. Homelander did do it first tho 😌
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family thot, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you 😔 Nah lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Black-cest fans swearing this time the Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silvia gif. More Girlboss Warlords 👏👏
Helena has been said to be a seer so everything she says weird or not is important in some way so it would seem. I do love Emma and Olivia just as much as the younger actresess and I think they do a wonderful job. Olivia herself is known to me from the tv show Hotel Bates and I liked her there too. I can't wait to see your reaction to the last episode and this one was both good and sad all at once because of the death of Harwin with his father and the death of Daemon's wife was just heartbraking seeing the reaction on the dragon's face when she asked to be burned and not wanting to do so but doing it any way just broke me.
I'm really impressed. You're one of the few reactors that didn't just flat out hate older Alicent just because she isn't doing whatever Rhaenyra or the king wants. Most are saying she's a snake or trying to compare her to Cersei. I don't know why so many people refuse to sympathize with Alicent's situation. In the absence of her father, she has few allies in the capital she can trust aside from Ser Criston, and with the King only becoming more ill she doesn't feel her children will be safe should he die. Also, Alicent standing up with her "when I am cold in my grave" comment is completely understandable imo. Rhaenyra makes a fairly insulting offer, marrying Alicent's true born daughter to one of her obvious bastards, which would weaken her claim, even if it were for "peace" (which that wouldn't even guarantee) what parent would agree to that? Anyway, aside from my rant, great reaction, and I am looking forward to seeing your take on the rest of the season.
What are you on about, what claim would be weakened? Aegon or Helaena have no claim. Rhaenyra is the heir, and Jace, bastard or not, is rightfully next in line. Helaena would marry some random lord but Alicent rejects the offer of her being Queen just because she's bitter that Rhaenyra chooses her lovers while she's trapped in the choices others made for her.
@Elfstone77 Siring bastards and deliberately attempting to pass them onto the throne is high treason and only isn't being punished because of Viserys deliberate blindness. So yes, marrying one of Rhaenyra's bastards would weaken their claim. And what do you mean they have no claim? As long as their alive they have it.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased As the succession follows the heir, it doesn't matter who fathered Rhaenyra's children, their legitimacy comes from her. Alicent's children are 4th+ in line for the throne. And legitimising bastards is in the king's power. Rhaenyra is the rightful heir, end of story.
@@bluehope42 If them being bastards doesn't matter, why does Rhaenyra go to incredible lengths to gaslighting people to believe they are legitimate. Why not come out with it? It's because trying to pass them onto the throne as legitimate is high treason. And bastards have no rights to succession no matter who their parents are, so Rhaenyra being heir doesn't change shit.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased no but laenor claiming them as his does. him and corlys accepting that they are next in line does. the kings word is law. if rhaenyra is the heir then so are her children.
"Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day, there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some, he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains." ~Archmaester Gyldyne The "weirdo" sister, Healana, is also quite the prophet. In this episode, she predicted a major event that will happen to her brother, Aemond, in the next episode. And in that episode, she predicts the Dance of the Dragons. This is something new for the show. She wasn't a prophet in the books. Larys sits with the ladies because their gossip is a great source of information. Old ladies are to Larys what orphans are to Varys...little birds. ✌️
Alicent is actually the only pure and honest person of the bunch aside from the King. She really doesn't scheme and lie. In the end all she really wants is what's best for her family. Yet everyone adores Daemon and Rhaenyra, who honestly have done so much wrong. Birthing bastards, lying about sleeping around, murdering people. Crazy how so many fans of this show think Alicent is the bad one smh
They are all pretty awful, but Alicent is what they made her. She’s tough and smart. She got that way because of everyone else being conniving and cruel.
@@funnylilgalreacts I don't think Smart IS the Word to describe alicent. She Is easily manipulated By her father, Larys, and she pushed the thought of being "King" on her own son. Stupid is the correct Word. In the end she got played by Larys.
Why don’t ppl understand how hard it is for gay and straight ppl to make themselves have sex with one another. It’s not natural for them, it’s almost like expecting them to force themselves upon each other. Rhaenyra gets alot of animosity because of this but Laenor doesn’t really, I know her kids are bastards but they should not be treated cruelly by their own family or Criston because of their mother.
As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". Poor Criston doesn't know Rhaenyra was just having a hot girl summer. But besides that, the memes are hilarious ngl. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on a roundtable with Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit 😂😂
imo Ser Cristion was a good man, and this is not to say that he is not responsible for his own actions or to reduce the fact that he is a bitter ass hole now, but i think Rhaenyra bears alot of responsibility for contributing to making a good guy into a complete bitter hate driven man. The way she used him for a bit of fun with no consideration for his values or what her fun would cost him if he got caught, and it was all just a fun fling to her. I think its very realistic to how some very good men or women turn bitter and hate driven because they were used.
Sorry I don't like Alicint. She's cruel to Rhaenyra and her children, no matter their birth they don't deserve it. She's no better than Cole in her hate and pettiness this episode.
The "what are children but a weakness through them you imagine you live forever" Larys monologue is up there as some of the best lines in the show. "Love stays the hand" that's a brilliant metaphor. The way Larys delivers the whole thing is chilling.
Larys is so horrible but yet so good.
Not only do Olivia Cooke and Emma D'Arcy kill it, they elevated the show. Which makes the wait for season 2 much more agonizing.
Yes, the casting was excellent. Emma in the birthing scene at the start was absolutely convincing, and immediately won me over... I had been concerned that Milly's performance would be a tough act to follow, but the concern was unnecessary.
Daemon with Baela is like Ned with Arya he just relates to her more. Beaela is a tom boy and a dragon rider like him so its easier for him to engage with her.
Another place D&D fuck up. Tywin Lannister was married to his cousin. Ned Father was married to his cousin. It was common in mediaeval times to marry cousin/aunt/uncle together , to keep the land and wealth in the family. Never understood why people were grossed out by that. Brother and sister on the other hand is something else.
Re Damon - a couple of thoughts that I had after watching and your reaction.
One thing I thought interesting in the parallels between Viserys' choice with Aemma and Daemon's unresolved 'choice' with Laena (which she took into her own hands before Daemon could make any choice) is the reaction from the brothers. Viserys is presented with the choice and responds, "You can save the child?" Daemon responds "Will the mother survive it?" I thought this was telling where their focus lay in the situations.
I think he keenly feels the loss, but doesn't know how to express it. The look on his face when he witnesses Laena's self immolation to me showed that his heart was breaking. Many people will also point out that a scene was cut that showed Daemon comforting his daughters on the rooftop after Laena's death. I think it was a big mistake to cut this, and should have been left in. He's flawed and despicable in many ways, but he definitely cares about his family (maybe too much, in some instances).
As to the daughters, I don't think it's so much a 'first child' situation, I think it's more the daughter has a dragon. Daemon has, I think, for his entire life divided people into two categories - people who have dragons, and people who don't, and the ones worth interacting with are in the previous category. His brother was a dragonrider. Rhaenyra is a dragonrider. Laena became a dragonrider later in life when she claimed Vhaegar, the largest dragon still living and the only one of the original 3 dragons that conquered Westeros. That probably raised her a few notches in Daemon's esteem. I think with the former group he can relate to, not so much with the others. He's clearly obsessed with dragon lore and dragonlords, Laena mentions this episode. He's a bit calmer but clearly still antsy - when he was younger he wanted the glory and the accolades and to be hand of the king and scare people with his dragon for control. But now he's older, he wants to be free from the petty politics and seems mildly content but stagnating in Pentos with his wife and daughters. So he has one child who is a dragonrider and he can relate to her, teach her valyrian and the histories, and the other daughter kind of gets left out in the cold. I don't think he's doing it to punish her, but I think it's something unconscious on his part that she's different from him and not as relatable.
Also hell yeah, another euchre player!
Daemon made a choice. He asked if she would survive it, the doctor said no, and Daemon shook his head.
I know they cut a lot of his more intimate moments from this season which is disappointing, but also kind of makes sense. It would be like showing all of Jamie's character in the first season of GOT instead of letting his complexities be a slower reveal. Who knows what they're going to change from the book, though.
"Well, I guess she asked for the baby, not for Rhaenyra".
Me: Exactly, a lot of folks miss that detail for some reason. I get why Rhaenyra went to the Queen(Alicent) with her baby over having the baby brought to the Queen by someone else, because she was probably afraid Alicent would hurt the child.
Nah, she went up there because the queen wanted her baby "immediately". Rhaenyra, no sane person, would allow someone in that position to just take your baby away seconds after the birth. And just to cover it, modern science and birth practices aside.
why would she hurt the baby ? more such babies stronger her case against rhaenyra. rhaenyra taking the baby shows her own irrational paranoia and only helps confirm alicent's suspicions about fate of her sons if rhaenyra becomes queen.
@@sitting_nut For the same reason Crispin Cole pitted Rhaenyra's eldest son against Alicent's, just to be petty and vindictive. Rhaenyra wasn't going to gamble with her child's life by letting someone else take Joffery to Alicent, even if it does confirm her suspicions.
@@dwnkaomwn3953 so you basically admit rhaenyra certainly is paranoid and petty and vindictive. no other grounds to think and act like that. you are of course free to speculate if alicent is "petty and vindictive" as to "hurt" the new born child (since there is no evidence of that up to this) against her own interest ( since more such children are alive better for alicent's case ) . pure projection on rhaenyra's part, and yours on her behalf.
also calling out criminal actions of a petty tyrant like rhaenyra, protected and favored by the king, is not "petty", though it may be vindictive.
@@sitting_nut the same alicent that you’re speaking about literally calls rhaenyra’s children savages for a prank that HER son made up and tried to take a 6 year olds eye. rhaenyra was never petty or vindictive towards alicent at all, it was very much the other way around. only reason alicent asked to see joffrey was because she wanted to see if he looked like laenor. rhaneyra had every right to be cautious considering alicent has treated her like shit ever since she married her father.
I do not know how you can not binge this show. it is SO good! love your reactions as always. Cannot wait for you to finish this season
LOL, if I wasn't sick last week it would've been done already!
I love how she knows Emma and Olivia from the Negroni sbagliato clip 😂
"Haven't seen Harrenhall in a hot second."
Me: Interesting choice of words....
As much as I low key hate getting wedding invitations now, I would have REALLY hated getting one if I lived in Westeros. ...
"I Promise." -Ser Harwin & Ned Stark
Ouch 😭
The dragon that scared Aemond is Dreamfyre. In Jaehaerys' reign she had 3 eggs stolen off her and taken East...
Three 👀 I imagine we meet them in future…
Yep. Season 1 GoT !
It was also one of her eggs that Daemon took in episode 2.
I love Emma D'Arcy so much in this role. They're a phenomenal actor.
They 🤣
@@Viduthalai-k8yes, they.
This show really should be called House of the Babies, lol
Viserys missed a chance to show some spine here. He is the head of House Targaryen and Princess Helaena; as such, he has the final say, by tradition and law, over who Helaena marries, he should have overruled Alicent and betrothed Helaena to Jacaerys.
That's not Jason Lannister. That's his twin brother Tyland Lannister. Played by the same actor ofc. but Tyland's personality is very different from Jason's. Tyland is not the flamboyant philanderer type.
Great reaction as always!
I love your ‘to the camera’ look when Viserys was like, ‘what is this shadow?!’ 😂
There’s one more big time jump, but after that and going forward it should be no more time jumps.
Looking forward to your take on the next one, always interesting to see who takes which side!
27:49 I grew to love Laena in the show far more than the scant few minutes we got of her on screen would seemingly have justified.
It may be more common than you think - I myself am a 'surprise Joffrey'. Caesar birth and mum passed out, so Dad gave me my first name and that's how I was introduced when she came to. Mum then gave me my middle name - handy when I was trying to avoid the politics of post-divorce...
"I feel....you will reward me...
when the time is right." (CHILLS)
alot of people in the comments are saying alicent is good and rhaenyra is the bad one or something along those lines. rhaenyra was forced to marry someone who is gay. she is a young woman who has to produce heirs, idc if she was not married to harwin she is targaryen and so are her children. the fact is once viserys remarried he should have named aegon his heir. i personally dont think alicent or rhaenyra are bad, but alicent seems a little salty that rhaenyra got to chose who she loves, even tho her husband likes men
Well if Rhaenys had been named queen at the great council all of this could have been avoided. Viserys was a good man but not a strong king. He would've been much happier and healthier (with his wife probably living a longer life if she hadn't been under the pressure to constantly produce babies in hopes of a male heir) if he'd just remained a prince.
Haven't seen Harrenhal in a hot second...... 20 seconds later. 🔥🔥
To be fair whenever any other castle burns down the locals think its a disaster.
When Harrenhal burns the locals just think its tuesday! Some things are expected!
Just FYI, that was Lord Jason's twin, Ser Tyland Lannister, on the small council as the new Master of Ships. He's smarter and less arrogant than his brother. You can tell them apart because Jason typically wears gold with Lannister red, while Tyland wears green out of loyalty to Alicent.
Angela : "You get a beautiful brunette baby, it's probably not Laenor's......."
Yeeeesh.
Imagine if such a terrible thing could happen.
Perish the thought.
Strongly!
I wish the scenes showing Daemon comforting his children would not have been cut from the show. I believe there are too many Daemon fans which is puzzling to the show runners. It seems as if they go out of their way to cut out any scenes showing Daemon’s compassion or at least many of them were deleted.
Totally true. Unfortunately (SPOILERS AHEAD) IN EPISODE 10, Ryan himself said that a "shocking" Scene was added exactly for shock and for people to stop "liking daemon" they don't Know how to pushed down his popularity
@@AnniePelletier1 There's nothing they can do about it. It isn't the character it's the actor. Matt Smith is far too charismatic to be someone you can root against.
@@jthomann71 also true
@@jthomann71 Exactly, so I don’t understand why they keep trying to make us hate him. He is also a deplorable scumbag that is petty and harsh but he is fool AF.
@@beethewizard And the character isn't really written to be deplorable in the book so I don't know why they keep trying.
I wish we'd had longer with adult Laena, she was so awesome ;..; In the book her son was stillborn and she died shortly afterwards from complications from the birth (she tried getting to Vhagar for one last flight). So Laena was going to die anyway but they made it much more dramatic. Also credit to Daemon that he shook his head no when it came to the prospect of cutting her open to try to save the baby.
The books are a bit more ambiguous with Rhaenyra's children. In the books the Velaryon's share many of the Targaryen traits, but Rhaenys actually has black hair despite being a Targaryen, as her mother is a Baratheon, and while her own children don't have black hair, it is very possible for the Baratheon black hair to skip a generation due to their strong genes. This was a plot point in Game of Thrones, as Cersei's children had blonde hair despite Robert being their supposed father, since is most cases of a Baratheon and Lannister having children, they tend to have Baratheon black hair. As the Book of fire and Blood is a history book, we don't get firsthand account of the events transpiring in the story, it's all second hand at best, so we don't see Rhaenyra's relationships from her point of view, just biased sources.
So, the speculation about Rhaenyra's children in the books is a lot more nuanced, there is a good chance they're Harwin's bastard sons, but it is also just as possible they're Leanor's sons who just happened to inherit their grandmother's black hair, and their validity as heirs would depend on who you support in the debate. I guess in the show they wanted to remove all doubt about the parentage of Rhaenyra's sons, the Velaryon's have darker skin, and Rhaenys doesn't have the Baratheon black hair, leaving little doubt that Rhaenyra's sons are bastards.
Edit: to further muddy the waters, Rhaenyra herself is not a full-blooded Targaryen, her mother was an Arryn, and her maternal grandfather was most likely would have also had dark hair. Her Rhaenyra's mother had Targaryen traits because Rhaenyra's maternal grandfather married a Targaryen princess. So, there is enough no Valyrian blood in both Rhaenyra and Leanor that their children might not have the traditional Valyrian traits, but this is a moot point in the show as it is quite clear in showing they're illegitimate.
There is also an irony to Harwin being the father of Rhaenyra's children, back in episode 3 when everyone was telling Viserys who Rhaenyra should marry, when Lionel came forward with a suggestion, Viserys joked that Lionel would suggest his son... Harwin. Lionel stated otherwise, yet as we see here, if they had married so many issues probably could have been avoided, we see thw two clearly care for each other and are good parents. But politics won out in the end. A further irony, the Strongs are a splinter family of the Starks in the north, located in the Riverlands, so despite being distantly related, Rhaenyra's children are still distantly tied to the Starks.
Yasss finally! Been waiting for your reaction to this episode❤️
The Daughter is a Dreamer. Pay attention to what she says.
It's usually a one episode adjusting period since there's so much info dump here. But don't worry it sets up everything that's gonna matter in the coming episodes. And by the end of the next episode you're gonna forget these characters were even played by different actors.
I think Criston is so set on being a perfect knight and kingsguard that joffery's comments were a reminder of his own failing as a kingsguard. Especially after Rhaenyra told him his dream would never happen he probably felt it was all for nothing, and being such a perfectionist in a lot of ways, a reminder of one failing is probably enough to cause someone like that to snap. (At least thats the impression I got).
14:15 Pay close attention to what Helena says and it is very important, I wish they had shown us more about Harwin and Laena that watching the series for the agent feels more pain when the characters die, so when I saw the two characters die I was sad for the death of both of them but not to the point of crying for them two characters, you know, I think the writers didn't want to show too much of the two characters for a simple reason and because they probably don't think it's important to the story
22:24 When Laena says she wants her husband back what she married is true because the daemon is depressed and just realizing that he only stays at home reading a book and not sleeping well the daemon gets depressed he misses Viserys and Rhaenyra but he doesn't want to see them, the daemon we know he doesn't see and so
26:43 The daemon had said no with his head but even so Laena died and sad I prefer what they did in the series than the book in the book she loses the baby then she becomes depressed then one night she decides to go to her dragon but on the way she falls down the stairs and dies so I prefer it in the series and it's more exciting because we see her bond with the dragon, Daemon loved his wife so much that he didn't show any sign, he loves her and his daughters only the writers don't show it anymore in the book firewing and blood that he loves his daughters and his wife more Unfortunately, the scriptwriters prefer not to show that there were two deleted scenes, one with the daemon hugging his daughters, the other deleted scene and the daemon sending his daughters to the room because they were seeing the mother in the room trying having the baby so the daemon arrives at the time of Laena's death and was unable to prevent her death
18:19 A curiosity for anyone who has watched Doctor Who, this actor who plays Aegon is the son of David Tennant, he is David, he has worked with Matt, they have both been Doctor Who and now Matt is working with David Tennant's son
I recommend you watch Doctor Who, it's very good, this series, if I'm not mistaken, has 13 seasons, it's really worth watching. I recommend you watch Doctor Who.
It's really disappointing that they cut off a scene that stills of have been floating around of Daemon embracing his daughters after Laena's death. Sometimes it seems like they have been intentionally framing his actions as worst than they literally are. Not that he's a saint by any stretch of the imagination, but it feels a little like they want us to think poorly of him, rather than him being the pretty true grey character that he is.
It is pretty telling also that when faced with the same situation, Viserys' concern was with the child, and Daemon's concern was with the mother.
he murders his wife how is that grey. the fact that daemon fans cope this way is too much
@@CoryAndor half the people we follow in this and GOT have killed people. That's pretty normal in this universe. I was speaking into the show's context not our real world context. In the context of the show he is a grey character.
I would not like/debate about a real life person who acted this way but since this is indeed fiction, it doesn't matter who I like or what they've done.
@@CoryAndor that's part of there argument him killing his wife was a show creation aka demonizing him by adding bad actions rather then having him be the gray character he's supposed to be .
This episode is tragedy after tragedy after tragedy. So much scheming and violence. And we're not even in wartime...yet.
Oh god I can’t get these vid fast enough! Show is soooo good.
Helena is weird.. But in a good way. Notice Daemon asked if his wife would survive but Viserys asked if the child would survive from earlier.
Who ever can ride a dragon is genetically a Targaryen, whatever is his or her hair colour.
Ser Criston is clearly being an incel, his anger is not justified lol 10 years later? And you’re mistreating her kids? Excuse me lol btw no punishment for killing a man and assaulting Laenor? He got away with a lot bro, if I’m Laenor he could never be in my presence again without me wanting to feed him to Seasmoke
Vhagar is gonna be the Black’s bane for the rest of the series. She’s something.
It's kinda funny / weird to me you cheered on for Daemon for vibing and had a family with Laena (which she's much younger than Rhaenyra) but you look kinda grossed at the idea of Rhaenyra vibing and have a "relationship" with Daemon. 🤣
Aweeeee. You sweet thing. I cried to when Vagar burned her too. It’s actually a very sad powerful scene.
It was beautiful. Her taking it in her own hands and going out the way she wanted. Boss
To the Alicent defenders, why wouldn’t the Queen inform the King of Larys actions? She’s so strong and powerful now, why work with a psycho kinslayer? Lol
Gaah, wish I had paid more attention to when this reaction went up because I just binged all 6 and am left waiting for your next reaction 🤦♀️😂
Could you elaborate on why you're concerned about the safety of Alicent's children?
U gotta pay attention to the things ancients daughter says she has vision's of the future ... Targaryens have a few people in their bloodline with the ability they used to call them dreamers
Also I'm pretty sure she just like bugs and has no connection to the guy who kill has his brother and father being burnt to death...
Yep she didn’t ask for it. But someone so pious sure didn’t say a word about it and have a man who murdered his brother and knight and father a lord and hand of king for justice. Hypocrite cough cough hypocrite. Alicent what a saint.
You gotta watch the deleted footage, makes a few scenes much better
I still can't believe you waisted your tears on Christon
ME EITHER.
Christon did nothing wrong.
Well Olivia Cooke and Emma D'Arcy is now a one single organism and their name is "Negroni Sbagliato with prosecco (Oh stunnin)"
I totally forgot you were watching this series 😂
Rhenyras Strong sons are courageous sword fighters.
Was it painful? No it just slid right out. lol
Hey! I just wanted to give a movie request. If you hadn’t seen this movie already it’s a must watch and guarantee will shatter your heart!
“Only the Brave”
it’s about the 19 Granite Mountain Hot Shot Firefighters that were killed on June 30th 2013. Amazing true story movie!!
Matt Smith Aka Daemon is MVP
Christon Cole always gets away with murder. How? And Larys also gets away with murder. Where is the Westerosi FBI?
Changing cast work well
Rhaenyra such an icon 😍. She just loves whom she wants to love and lets hubby do the same 😍!! Yass!!! Open marriage poly goddess 😍!!.....Well the problem is who you have kids with in this world have consequences for the entire realm. Today you won’t have to worry about being in control of the lives of millions as an absolute monarch. If Rhaenyra wanted to enjoy free love she should've just taken up on Criston's offer and lived up to her heart's desire in the Free Cities, liberated from the shackles of titles and inheritance and such. But she is in love with power. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I promise no spoilers, but the dragon in the Dragonpit is Vermithor and he will return.
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That was Dreamfyre . Vermithor is not residing in The Dragon Pit.
No, it's Dreamfyre. Vermithor is somewhere else...
@@funnylilgalreactsDon’t believe that because it’s wrong. That dragon was actually Dreamfyre and Vermithor is elsewhere.
@@melkor3496 DANG IT! I retract my earlier statement. The others are correct. This is what happens when reacts aren't live
I forgot: Here is your Proof of Daimons... capability ;P
Sir crispin got his face pummeled. Not much of a fight but we got it. Loved it! Him and the greens only get worse. How people defend them and crispin I have no idea.
Let’s Go ❤
First i have to say that this show by far exceed my expectations.
That said it is imho a prime example how forced diversity, even done as good as in this case with the Velaryons can have a big impact on characters..
The Velaryons originally where not black so it was possible, with an overabundance of good will, to see Rhaenyra's and Harwin's children as true born Velaryons. This naturally changes f.e. how one has to look at Viserys who is not just a Father who loves his child so much to see clearly but either an idiot or a tyrant who forces everyone by thread of death to ignore the glaringly obvious and forces the Velaryons into giving up the rightful succession of their house knowing full well that this is unjust.
Pay close attention to Heleana. She's a GREENSEER. ✌️
Actually, more accurately, she's a Dreamer.
15:26 In England there is an African couple who had a white son, many people started accusing the woman of cheating on her husband with someone else, but no, only genetics makes mysteries that we can not understand. Also in England a mother gave birth to twins and one was born white with red hair and the other was African with curly hair and they are true twins, another interesting case of genetics.
"It's birthing a child through your...(looks at the camera)...body" the coffee I was consuming exited my body through the nose. I've learnt today not to watch your react videos in the middle of swallowing!
😂😂😂 Omg I’m sorry 😂😂😂
I happen to like buns, do you like sausage?
Don’t give up on this show just because Wednesday is in the zeitgeist 😢
Ahem a very curious way of introducing the younger version of the single most significant character of the entire series. Homelander did do it first tho 😌
Alicent : When you're just trying to call out the family thot, raise an actual man, and hold the realm together through male primogeniture but the audience hates you 😔
Nah lol jokes aside Rhaenyra totally made that offer out of the kindness of her golden heart and pure generosity. It totally wasn't because she is trying to entrench the claim of her illegitimate son. No sir. A flimsy marriage alliance is not gonna save Prince Aegon & Aemond’s lives if Rhaenyra’s spawn by Harwin takes the throne & ppl start calling him what he really is. Black-cest fans swearing this time the Queen they support won't turn out to be a complete psycho. Insert Always Sunny in Philadelphia Pepe Silvia gif. More Girlboss Warlords 👏👏
I feel like I'm the only one that when joffrey talked to Cole I took it as a threat how he said it
I definitely saw it as a threat, but if Coke wasn’t in that horrible mental state, I don’t think he would’ve snapped the way he did.
I find it funny that through the time jump everyone has aged except Cole Lol.
and daemon
Helena has been said to be a seer so everything she says weird or not is important in some way so it would seem. I do love Emma and Olivia just as much as the younger actresess and I think they do a wonderful job. Olivia herself is known to me from the tv show Hotel Bates and I liked her there too. I can't wait to see your reaction to the last episode and this one was both good and sad all at once because of the death of Harwin with his father and the death of Daemon's wife was just heartbraking seeing the reaction on the dragon's face when she asked to be burned and not wanting to do so but doing it any way just broke me.
I'm really impressed. You're one of the few reactors that didn't just flat out hate older Alicent just because she isn't doing whatever Rhaenyra or the king wants. Most are saying she's a snake or trying to compare her to Cersei.
I don't know why so many people refuse to sympathize with Alicent's situation. In the absence of her father, she has few allies in the capital she can trust aside from Ser Criston, and with the King only becoming more ill she doesn't feel her children will be safe should he die.
Also, Alicent standing up with her "when I am cold in my grave" comment is completely understandable imo. Rhaenyra makes a fairly insulting offer, marrying Alicent's true born daughter to one of her obvious bastards, which would weaken her claim, even if it were for "peace" (which that wouldn't even guarantee) what parent would agree to that?
Anyway, aside from my rant, great reaction, and I am looking forward to seeing your take on the rest of the season.
What are you on about, what claim would be weakened? Aegon or Helaena have no claim. Rhaenyra is the heir, and Jace, bastard or not, is rightfully next in line. Helaena would marry some random lord but Alicent rejects the offer of her being Queen just because she's bitter that Rhaenyra chooses her lovers while she's trapped in the choices others made for her.
@Elfstone77 Siring bastards and deliberately attempting to pass them onto the throne is high treason and only isn't being punished because of Viserys deliberate blindness. So yes, marrying one of Rhaenyra's bastards would weaken their claim. And what do you mean they have no claim? As long as their alive they have it.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased As the succession follows the heir, it doesn't matter who fathered Rhaenyra's children, their legitimacy comes from her. Alicent's children are 4th+ in line for the throne. And legitimising bastards is in the king's power. Rhaenyra is the rightful heir, end of story.
@@bluehope42 If them being bastards doesn't matter, why does Rhaenyra go to incredible lengths to gaslighting people to believe they are legitimate. Why not come out with it? It's because trying to pass them onto the throne as legitimate is high treason. And bastards have no rights to succession no matter who their parents are, so Rhaenyra being heir doesn't change shit.
@@LordTywinLannistertheBased no but laenor claiming them as his does. him and corlys accepting that they are next in line does. the kings word is law. if rhaenyra is the heir then so are her children.
"Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day, there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some, he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains."
~Archmaester Gyldyne
The "weirdo" sister, Healana, is also quite the prophet. In this episode, she predicted a major event that will happen to her brother, Aemond, in the next episode. And in that episode,
she predicts the Dance of the Dragons. This is something new for the show. She wasn't a prophet in the books.
Larys sits with the ladies because their gossip is a great source of information. Old ladies are to Larys what orphans are to Varys...little birds.
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You are so beautiful....love your reactions!
Olivia is doing a great job as an older Alicent. D'Arcy on the other hand, she's OK. I much preferred Milly in the role.
You’re nuts! They are all great but new rhaenyra is another level.
@@GlennShook I agree. Emma is more amazing
Emma IS Rhaenyra for me.
Alicent is actually the only pure and honest person of the bunch aside from the King. She really doesn't scheme and lie. In the end all she really wants is what's best for her family. Yet everyone adores Daemon and Rhaenyra, who honestly have done so much wrong. Birthing bastards, lying about sleeping around, murdering people. Crazy how so many fans of this show think Alicent is the bad one smh
They are all pretty awful, but Alicent is what they made her. She’s tough and smart. She got that way because of everyone else being conniving and cruel.
@@funnylilgalreacts I don't think Smart IS the Word to describe alicent. She Is easily manipulated By her father, Larys, and she pushed the thought of being "King" on her own son. Stupid is the correct Word. In the end she got played by Larys.
@@funnylilgalreacts Of course I only speak about the adults. As for the children, I would say Rhaenyra's kids are better than Alicents.
Why don’t ppl understand how hard it is for gay and straight ppl to make themselves have sex with one another. It’s not natural for them, it’s almost like expecting them to force themselves upon each other. Rhaenyra gets alot of animosity because of this but Laenor doesn’t really, I know her kids are bastards but they should not be treated cruelly by their own family or Criston because of their mother.
The woman Cole loves, is leaving him for another man who doesn’t even love her. I can see boiling over when it’s pointed out to him
For sure, but damn, at a wedding? As part of the Kingsguard? She should've had him outside, not have it in his face.
As much as I think the Ser InceI jokes have always been hilarious and it's a trip watching it catch on in the mainstream, I do wonder how many people truly understand "not transplanting 21st century sensibilities on a medieval knight". Poor Criston doesn't know Rhaenyra was just having a hot girl summer. But besides that, the memes are hilarious ngl. Someone tweeted "dude would be a menace if they had podcasts" & I spat out water thinking Criston on a roundtable with Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit 😂😂
I personally enjoyed Game Of Thrones more than this show. I still enjoy you're reaction videos! 🙂👍
I think they are both very good, but come on...Dragons!
@@funnylilgalreacts Yeah the Dragons are cool. It's just to soap operaish for me.
Probably why I'm into it 🤣
What??? And GOT wasn't like a soap-opera???
@@manvirshergill1739 The last season definitely was.
imo Ser Cristion was a good man, and this is not to say that he is not responsible for his own actions or to reduce the fact that he is a bitter ass hole now, but i think Rhaenyra bears alot of responsibility for contributing to making a good guy into a complete bitter hate driven man. The way she used him for a bit of fun with no consideration for his values or what her fun would cost him if he got caught, and it was all just a fun fling to her. I think its very realistic to how some very good men or women turn bitter and hate driven because they were used.
Sorry I don't like Alicint. She's cruel to Rhaenyra and her children, no matter their birth they don't deserve it. She's no better than Cole in her hate and pettiness this episode.
Totally agree.