Why Christina Aguilera peaked with 'Stripped'

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  • Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
  • A mini-documentary on Christina's classic album 'Stripped' & why she never repeated its' success
    00:00 Intro
    00:51 Ron Fair - Christina’s A&R guy
    04:15 Scott Storch - one of the key collaborators on ‘Stripped’
    06:33 Christina’s rebellious nature

КОМЕНТАРІ • 224

  • @Kai-ts9fw
    @Kai-ts9fw Рік тому +87

    Good video but I feel some important points were missed. B2B is xtina’s most critically acclaimed album & era. Ain’t no other man won a grammy. She also did many legendary collaborations & covers during this era (eg it’s a man’s world, a song for you, i love you porgy etc). The B2B tour was a huge success as it was the second highest grossing tour of 2007 only behind Justin. Also, all xtina fans know that Bionic was a masterpiece that was sabotaged by Perez, Gaga, and the media pushing false narratives about her. This wasn’t helped by the fact that the rollout for Bionic was delayed by over a year (it was supposed to be called Light & Darkness and released in 2009) and that the promo rollout was very short and messy because she was promoting Burlesque and dealing with personal struggles (divorce) at the same time. The 4 year gap between B2B and bionic didn’t help as the sound of pop drastically shifted between 2008-2010. I feel that Bionic is where her career actually took a nosedive. Nowadays Xtina is a considered a legend and veteran so she can really do as she pleases and doesn’t need to chase charts.

    • @kevinrentz8773
      @kevinrentz8773 Рік тому +10

      Yeah I think he might be a little bias, because Back to Basics came out past his music buying years. I was a teenager during Back to Basics it was an amazing era. Stripped was good. But I was a little salty about the Pink Missunderstood/Linda Perry situation and Beef. Plus I was 10 when it came out. So that was a little ahead of my years. I don't care anymore now. I love both albums nowadays. LoL.HAHA 😂

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +17

      @@kevinrentz8773 B2B came out past my music buying years!?!?!!? No it did not. B2B only sold half of what Stripped sold and only had three international singles making it commercially far less successful than Stripped. These are facts - not personal bias.

    • @NDrockingIt
      @NDrockingIt Рік тому +5

      @@jonnyharvey I also remember critics saying it was too long, that's also a fact. But the album was still commercially strong.

    • @Patrick3183
      @Patrick3183 Рік тому

      She is not a legend or a veteran she is irrelevant

    • @vladichkoto
      @vladichkoto Рік тому +5

      And something very important to add: Christina didn't copy Gaga style. She started making dance music with Keep Getting Better around the same time. And also Bionic is more deeper than The Fame.

  • @ilubyou13
    @ilubyou13 Рік тому +13

    Stripped literally has no skips. Love this video, thanks for bringing the topic of this album back to life.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      Agreed - it’s a classic 😀 Thank you for your kind words 🙏

  • @bryantwilliams7149
    @bryantwilliams7149 Рік тому +30

    Now Christina is nominated for 7 Latin grammys so she's doing good

  • @user-ok9my2ih7e
    @user-ok9my2ih7e Рік тому +15

    I think her peak is between Stripped and Back to Basics. Sure, Stripped sold more, but Back to Basics was a double album sold at double the price. It offered her biggest and most international tour yet, and all 3 singles were international hits. HOWEVER, the cultural impact of Stripped far outdoes Back to Basics’ so it’s really depending on what metrics you decide to look at and measure.

  • @KevvyBoyy
    @KevvyBoyy Рік тому +30

    'Back to Basics' did well. 'Ain't No Other Man', 'Candyman' and, in Europe, 'Hurt' performed well. However, after the backlash against 'Bionic' and the interference from her label, her sales and chart success definitely declined in a major way. Yet, with 'Liberation' and 'Aguilera' she seems much more involved artistically and even reinspired. I think Christina's days of commercial success are over or at the very least will be limited to collaborations such as her hit singles 'Moves Like Jagger', 'Feel This Moment' and 'Say Something'. However, she will continue to put out great music and showcase her incredible voice. As a fan that's all I ask for.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +10

      Her voice is astonishing & I know Liberation got great reviews. I’d just love her to have a big comeback 😀

    • @kevinrentz8773
      @kevinrentz8773 Рік тому +2

      Back to basics is her best album. I think she peak after that.

  • @Melancholie89
    @Melancholie89 Рік тому +31

    Back to Basics was her last big era. The videos were on TV and radio hourly. I don't think it helped to have such long breaks between albums.

    • @rd_1550
      @rd_1550 6 місяців тому

      What about Adele and Beyonce tho. The gap of each pf their albums is bet 3 and 5 years.

  • @MrBibi86
    @MrBibi86 Рік тому +6

    *It's hard to believe Stripped was only her second album*

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +4

      I know - but I guess she was doing it from such a young age. Her voice sounded so mature already.

  • @JulieJx11
    @JulieJx11 Рік тому +15

    I enjoyed hearing the stories in the video. I think one point missed that Xtina has been vocal about recently is she said she didn’t feel like she was in a position to tour after she had her second child. She was more concerned with being present for her children, which is mostly why she took the gig on The Voice. ❤ Just food for thought as to why her albums also may have not been pushed as much by her label.

  • @matteus8442
    @matteus8442 Рік тому +18

    This album is a masterpiece in itself, the best of xtina ❤

  • @abrahamsoltero3319
    @abrahamsoltero3319 Рік тому +47

    She just came out with another Spanish language album that’s been doing quite well, you might be able to look into the success of that record

    • @arnoldgarcia2379
      @arnoldgarcia2379 Рік тому +2

      I love Christina but No one in latin america is looking out for her new spanish music. The lyrics are cringe too.

  • @sarahborders2348
    @sarahborders2348 Рік тому +5

    Stripped is one of my favorite albums. Every song is good.

  • @Fuzziefeelings
    @Fuzziefeelings Рік тому +12

    Her vocals on Stripped is also the best she ever sounded. Great songs married to great vocals where she didnt oversing. Fighter, Beautiful etc. She sounded so good, and the songs were all excellent. So yes, the ppl that picked the final setlist for Stripped created a no filler album. Even after the huge controversy of Dirrty, the album still sold well cause of great single choices. It's her magnum opus. By comparison Lotus and Bionic had many songs I often skipped. She became too camp. And I am gay, but you could sense she was catering for gays and not average ppl. Love her

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +3

      Yes on Back to Basics she really started over-singing. Too much acrobatic vocals. Stripped as you say was the winning combination of great songs & vocals

  • @jeniestra.
    @jeniestra. Рік тому +27

    Christina stopped chasing charts after 'Stripped'. She decided to gain her artistic liberty and she has managed to do great music until today. Her most recent album just won a Latin Grammy. Commercial success means nothing If your music doesn't leave a legacy.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +7

      Yes success means different things to different people.

    • @maryuspandyra7359
      @maryuspandyra7359 Рік тому +3

      Yes she always marches to her own drum and does her authentically, that's why we love Xtina. Her evolution and diversity is what keeps her interesting. I love the Stripped and Bionic era's personally, both so dichotomous in their styles but masterpieces in their own right (especially her career defining Stripped)

    • @jeniestra.
      @jeniestra. Рік тому +2

      @@maryuspandyra7359 I couldn't have said it better. Good comment.

  • @samueledouardd.2613
    @samueledouardd.2613 Рік тому +6

    She did Aguilera, which is a tremendous album quality wise . She won a Latin Grammy for it . I encourage you try searching for the album, its success and her entourage for it .

  • @HGWells-oz8ob
    @HGWells-oz8ob Рік тому +29

    Back to Basics was a HUGE success. It had 3 hit songs Candyman, Ain't no other man and of course HURT which is a classic song by now. It sold 5M copies. Also, the era was insanly successful when it came to visuals, touring, performances and won her a Grammy. Saying that it wasn't considered successful is simply flat out wrong.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +11

      I didn’t say it wasn’t a success. I said it wasn’t AS successful as the Stripped era - 12 million albums sold compared to the 5m on B2B. Obviously there are other types of success than commercial but that’s not what I was talking about in the video.

    • @HGWells-oz8ob
      @HGWells-oz8ob Рік тому +4

      @@jonnyharvey Oh okay. A misunderstood on my part.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      @@HGWells-oz8ob Don't worry - I'm very defensive. Sorry

    • @HGWells-oz8ob
      @HGWells-oz8ob Рік тому

      @@jonnyharvey As you should. You are a creator :)

    • @jackyfrom_usa522
      @jackyfrom_usa522 10 місяців тому

      ​@@jonnyharveypeaks??? where??? in mars
      album didnt even hit number 1 also dont have any number 1 single either she have only TWO succeeded albums debut and back to basics

  • @LordDarma
    @LordDarma Рік тому +20

    Iconic Xtina there will never be another The Voice of a generation like her

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +9

      She arguably is the greatest voice of her generation - she is up there with Mariah/Whitney/Celine

  • @ruebenromero2497
    @ruebenromero2497 Рік тому +9

    Beautiful Talented Christina ❤

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +4

      Agreed - she’s a superstar 🙌🙌🙌

  • @MSeliskaZ
    @MSeliskaZ Рік тому +12

    Idk about your country but Back To Basics was really successful in Europe( I live in the Czech Republic). I heard Candyman, Hurt and Ain’t No Other man all the time. I loved it so much that I bought it(cd, simple times😂).
    I was born in ‘94… I heard Beautiful but I was listening to Back To Basics first, then I heard the whole album Stripped. I like her, later other projects, it’s a shame that none of her albums/singles weren’t really that successful.
    I loved Not Myself Nothight, You, Your Body, Fall in Line… and more. But she has a family and looks very happy, I just watched her commenting on some of her music vidos … idk, is she doing some project/album…? Because celebs usually don’t do PR just because they got bored.

  • @michaelgreisinger5255
    @michaelgreisinger5255 Рік тому +8

    I feel Stripped is Christina's best album, but feel Back to Basics is Christina's peak overall. Everything from her vocals, to looks & that tour was epic. I went April of 07.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      Back to Basics was a great concept and very strong visuals

    • @mickymallma
      @mickymallma Рік тому +1

      Agreed!!

  • @DodaGarcia
    @DodaGarcia Рік тому +6

    I am definitely of the mind that Christina has that tendency to be musically ahead of her time, which is an admirable trait in an artist but can (obviously) be a bad thing if it continuously results in you not being as commercially successful as you could. We even have proof of this because Meghan Trainor had massive hits 8 years after Back to Basics with the same sound, probably because at that point the public was ready for that particular brand of nostalgia (and then the sound became a bane for her as well, but that's a different conversation about restrictive branding).
    That's the kind of problem that an experienced A&R executive such as Ron Fair can help an artist avoid - they usually have a much better sense of the cultural zeitgeist than the artist, who often stays mostly in their own head.

  • @shaunhoward3166
    @shaunhoward3166 Рік тому +10

    Xtina is a QUEEN.... Love all her albums tbh. Back Too Basics was huge album tho man... Xtina and Kylie Minogue are the Queens, are you able to do some Kylie Minogue?! . 👍💯👌💙❤️🎤🎤👑👑

  • @TrueFan4EverBACK
    @TrueFan4EverBACK Рік тому +17

    Christina has no limit and she doesn’t care about commercial success like most do. So I disagree about Stripped being her “peak”. It was an era that started her artistic freedom of course and so iconic but she has continued to be successful. She doesn’t need a big comeback because she already has done so much. It’s more important for her to do what she wants. Also with a gift and talent like Christina why stick to just a certain sound. She’s done pop, r&b, soul, ballads, dance music, even country stuff and let’s not forget her Spanish music. Maybe more people should accept that she is not chasing anything in terms of sales and such. She has cemented her place as a legendary artist.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +9

      Yes that’s a good point. She doesn’t really have anything to prove. She’s already achieved phenomenal success. I meant that ‘Stripped’ was her commercial peak. I know a lot of fans may think her artistic peak was on other albums

  • @McDirrty
    @McDirrty Рік тому +11

    There's no other artist that made such a jump from one style of sound to another - from one album to the next, in such a short amount of time.
    She also took her time between albums, and didn't try to pump out songs/albums every year or two, just to remain popular. She remained true to herself.
    When it came to the album 'Bionic', I think it was a mismatch between her personal life and the public image portrayed at the time.
    She was going through a divorce and personal struggles, while portraying an overconfident persona on the album.
    The ballads on the album told the true story, but the album was ruined by the first single and the bad press that followed.
    No other modern artist made so many honest songs & wonderful ballads on each album, and payed so little attention to the 'hit factor' of the album.
    She chose to live life instead of chasing hits.
    I respect her for that.

  • @ntuzunkaurintah
    @ntuzunkaurintah Рік тому +5

    Yes legendtina

  • @jazzi11xa
    @jazzi11xa Рік тому +4

    Christina's not doing it for the money now.. she's doing it to fulfill the artist in her.. she's already a multi millionaire.. as you said..

  • @bajecho
    @bajecho Рік тому +6

    i still enjoy listening to her bionic album

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Which songs are your favourite?

    • @bajecho
      @bajecho Рік тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey not myself tonight, sex for breakfast and stronger than evah .. every album of hers really capture a certain mood, the sound was never repetitive thats why i get to enjoy it

  • @disclam7712
    @disclam7712 Рік тому +5

    Great analysis!! Bravo

  • @justinraysantiago287
    @justinraysantiago287 Рік тому +2

    BIONIC IS SO UNDERRATED IS ICONIC TBH ❤❤❤😊

  • @alienmoosestudios
    @alienmoosestudios Рік тому +2

    Thanks for another fun and informative video 🤩😁

  • @mickymallma
    @mickymallma Рік тому +2

    LEGENDTINA. I'm a big fan of hers and of pop culture in general, especially early 00s. This was definitely her best era in every sense. Back to Basics is a masterpiece in different ways, like visual and vocal-wise, but oh man, Stripped was beyond artistic technicalities or achievements, it was a cultural and social phenomenon. Beautiful was the first time in history two gay men appeared kissing on a music video. It feels so weird to even write that! Dirrty was such a cultural shock. Fighter was the blueprint for Kelly's Stronger, Katy's Firework, the list goes on.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yeah it was such a great album - so many great songs & visuals. You can definitely see the influences in other singers’ work

  • @andrearicchetti3520
    @andrearicchetti3520 Рік тому +5

    Saying that B2B was not a huge hit …
    In EU candyman IS LIKE XTINA’s most recognised song

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      Just double checking the placings now - it only got to no 17 in the UK, one of the biggest markets in the world. It reached No 17 on the Eurochart. And it can’t have been a huge hit cause her record label didn’t give her a fourth international single or the money for another video for the album & it was only the 3rd single.
      But I agree, it has become well-known. I think I heard it on Glee & I’ve heard it a lot on singing contests.

  • @Keibro
    @Keibro Рік тому +2

    Great video Jonny. Stripped is a classic. It felt like the first time she broke away and took control of her sound and image. I always remember the "controversy" in the media about her Dirrrty video. That kind of departure from her teen pop image has paved the way for others in later years such as Miley Cyrus. Bionic I remember her getting a lot of comparison to GaGa at the time which I felt was unfair.

  • @jessejameslatimer8686
    @jessejameslatimer8686 Рік тому +3

    A lot of people don’t know this.. but Nichole Shersinger (or however you spell her last name) could have been the original “ Fergie” in the black eyed pees but she had a very controlling boyfriend at the time who told her she should not be in the group for whatever reason. So the Ron Fare connection to PSD and The BEPs makes sense.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing

  • @edwardiii8409
    @edwardiii8409 Рік тому +4

    The Voice Within was a great climax single

  • @wildhearts242
    @wildhearts242 Рік тому +6

    The issue with Xtina is she (1) stopped promoting her music after Bionic and (2) she experimented too early in her career and has no core sound. Madonna and Janet were established when they started going niche. Also I think B2B was successful and her last big era 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      I think your second point is excellent - she never developed a signature base sound. Her first 4 English albums all had completely different sounds. Madonna/Janet developed more gradually for their first few albums

    • @wildhearts242
      @wildhearts242 Рік тому +3

      @@jonnyharvey I love her but her first 4 albums make no sense. Are you a Pop princess? A dirty r&b girl? A jazz singer? A half human/half robot? Lol. 😂😂😂. I won’t lie, I started checking out during B2B. It was too long and too retro! Liberation (2018) is dope though.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      @@wildhearts242 Yes definitely agree re B2B- I think it could've been a classic if she left 6/6 songs off. Haven't listened to Liberation yet- need to give it a go.

  • @TheOracle1814
    @TheOracle1814 10 місяців тому

    I have a little story to share with this girl, Christina Aguilera. In 2010 when she released her album, Bionic, it Made me become such a big fan so much I started buying all her CDs concert. DVDs , perfumes, you name it. But later on that that time ,she just was not delivering what other more active pop stars at that time we’re doing. Throughout the 2010s decade, I had kept supporting her keeping faith that she will be back in the world spotlight like she did before but her starlight was just so dim and she wasn’t as thriving as she was before so I just pushed her aside and put other pop stars more energetic and thriving before her but deep down inside I will always admire the great talent of this woman

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  10 місяців тому +1

      I don't think she wants to be a big pop star again. It's probably not as much fun as it looks

  • @phillypretzel
    @phillypretzel Рік тому +1

    B2B was a huge era. I don’t know what you’re talking about. She had 3 hits off that album and the tour was the 2nd most successful tour of that year. Not to mention she had not one but 2 huge opening acts for that tour ( Pussy Cat dolls and Danity Kane)The album sales were damaged because a lot of people weren’t buying albums as much anymore as music was accessed through youtube and other sites for free. That should be taken into big consideration. She won many accolades for B2B and her voice was unmatched during this era. The Grammys even chose Christina over Beyonce and Mariah for the James Brown tribute. B2B may not have had the same trailblazing fire that Stripped had, but to say her career was peaked at Stripped is almost offensive. B2B was major!

  • @andrearicchetti3520
    @andrearicchetti3520 Рік тому +10

    DONT YOU EVEN DARE TO SAY B2B was not good enough!!!😱😱
    Its her best album musically and vocally speaking

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +3

      Music is very subjective & people hear it differently & everyone is entitled to their opinion. But it can’t be disputed that commercially it didn’t do as well as Stripped or yield as many international singles. Sorry if I offended you.

    • @jotjotzzz5357
      @jotjotzzz5357 Рік тому

      No it wasn’t. It was a bore.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +4

      @@jotjotzzz5357 I just find it a frustrating album. It could've been amazing if she left about six tracks off it. And the time was perfect for a retro soul record - just a few weeks before 'Back to Black' came out.

    • @jotjotzzz5357
      @jotjotzzz5357 Рік тому +2

      @@jonnyharvey I agree. I love some of the songs. But it was like throwing everything on a wall and seeing what sticks. It was unfocused. It could have been such a great project. Too bad.

  • @afrikan_kowboi
    @afrikan_kowboi Рік тому +1

    Very very valid points

  • @phreshgardener9145
    @phreshgardener9145 Рік тому +5

    Love your content! Stripped is an iconic album that's hard to follow up. Can you talk about the influence of Britney's Blackout, next? Thanks!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +3

      Thank you 🙏I was thinking of doing ‘Blackout?’ What angle should I take on it?

    • @unofficiallatinamericanist
      @unofficiallatinamericanist Рік тому +1

      @@jonnyharveyeither about the legacy of the album or it being the last album Britney took a main role until “Glory”.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      @@unofficiallatinamericanist thanks for this - great idea😃

    • @unofficiallatinamericanist
      @unofficiallatinamericanist Рік тому

      @@jonnyharvey no worries, handsome ;)

  • @dylanthuong2600
    @dylanthuong2600 8 місяців тому

    This was her greatest media campaign.

  • @robertmercadoworld
    @robertmercadoworld Рік тому +1

    New subscriber ! 🎉

  • @raging_carnut
    @raging_carnut Рік тому +4

    people fighting and punching air with B2B. it may have been commercially succesful but it wasn't so culturally influencial. Thats where Stripped fits in

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yeah Stripped has become iconic. It’s definitely now considered a classic record.

  • @JORDAN23TV
    @JORDAN23TV Рік тому +3

    She stopped promoting her albums, especially after Bionic flopped. She never gave us more than 2 vids per era after that. She does seem to like her Spanish album though

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I don’t think the record company were willing to spend anymore money on videos

  • @favyan16
    @favyan16 Рік тому +4

    Bionic was sabotaged by Gaga

  • @HEARDIFFERENT
    @HEARDIFFERENT Рік тому +3

    And she is a great risk taker offcourse. That’s her bad.

  • @firouz256
    @firouz256 Рік тому +2

    Stripped is my favorite Xtina album
    because it is molded after Madonna's "Like A Prayer"!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      Yes it’s like ‘LAP’ album in that singer really grows into an artist. Love that album also 😀

    • @firouz256
      @firouz256 Рік тому

      @@jonnyharvey
      "Like A Prayer" is the blueprint of everything that followed in female pop:
      A Spanish song (Spanish Eyes), a song for dad (Oh father), a song for mum/child (Dear Jessie) , a song for the family (Keep It Together) , a songs about love (Love Song and Cherish) and a song about empowerment (Express yourself)! This more or less the formula that EVERY relevant female in pop follows if they seek critical acclaim and produce a personal work!
      Ask Pink!
      Fun fact: Madonna herself modeled "Ray Of Light" After Kate Bush's "Hounds Of Love".

  • @bluelightvisions
    @bluelightvisions Рік тому +2

    I really don’t think she is interested in having that sort of comeback. Of course I’m sure she’d be happy if her music resonated that way but regardless of the music she makes, if she really wanted to have the proper comeback, we’d be seeing so many appearances and performances that match the type of promotion that those who have those chart-topping songs and albums have. We did get a lot more visuals and singles with the Spanish project but I think whatever she puts out will always be on her own accord and the priorities to be on top of the her game as a pop artist have dissipated since the release cycle of Lotus in 2012. She has gotten back to touring though which she seems to love doing so at least she’s still making music she’s passionate about and getting the chance to perform it the way she wants to and still connect to those who enjoy it.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yes I think you’re right -I don’t think she is interested in a big comeback. Being a major popstar probably isn’t as much fun as it’s cracked up to be

  • @lilsiranthony
    @lilsiranthony Рік тому

    B2B was huge!! She had won a Grammy for that album and went on a huge tour so idk where this is coming from.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      It sold less than half of Stripped. It only had three international singles, Stripped had 5.

  • @christopherproietti645
    @christopherproietti645 Рік тому +4

    Bionic is definitely the neglected gem in her collection but I've always felt the right singles were not released. If i had the power to choose (with Christina), I would've gone with Desnudate, Prima Donna, Lift Me Up and Glam. Not Myself Tonight was, arguably, a bit underwhelming creatively and its disappointing performance on the Hot 100 seemed to derail the rollouts for Woo Hoo, You Lost Me and I Hate Boys.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yeah I think those other songs you mentioned were the planned singles

  • @zm6631
    @zm6631 Рік тому +1

    I've always thought it was her (perceived) attitude that did the most damage. I'd also argue that her Lotus album shows she does (or at least did ) care about having hits but the moment was gone by then. A great talent who probably needed a better PR team.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      yes I think that's a good point. People didn't want difficult, inaccessible popstars anymore - the times had changed. People started wanting more down- to-earth, friendly types like Katy Perry or Adele. Even Gaga with all her OTT clothes always seemed personable & likeable in interviews.

  • @jeffhilbert6212
    @jeffhilbert6212 Рік тому +2

    Bionic is just like Madonna's Erotica. Both amazing!

  • @Anthony-pm2tb
    @Anthony-pm2tb Рік тому +2

    Xtina peaked with back to basics

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yes it’s open to interpretation of course

  • @leightonbate7516
    @leightonbate7516 Рік тому +2

    They tried to squeeze her into a Britney type box which she probably wanted to bust out of,once the pr people and a&r died away so did her marketing push and people she wanted to work with her had GaGa,Rihanna,Beyonce,Pink and Katy on speed dial first,shame really as she has a good voice.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      Incredible voice. One of the greatest of her generation. She's made her money, she doesn't need to worry anymore.

  • @shakazulu3594
    @shakazulu3594 Рік тому +3

    Some of these pop stars become overconfident in their abilities and think they can do it all.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      that's true. Very, very few artists can - maybe Prince or George Michael.

    • @Nacho_Ferrari
      @Nacho_Ferrari 13 днів тому

      Bullseye. Christina has a diva complex that makes her absolutely annoying, and I´m sure that closed her a lot of doors.

  • @scottgarbo1288
    @scottgarbo1288 Рік тому +1

    Jonny, your videos are so addicting! I appreciate all the details and info you share. I've always said the 'Stripped' was Christina's peak, so I agree with you completely. I also think that, after working nonstop since she was a little girl, she just wants to focus more on her persona life, after making enough money to not have to work. I'm happy for her but it's unfortunate that she hasn't used her incredible talents to make more outstanding, impactful albums.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Thank you. She’s probably tired & she’s so rich, she doesn’t need to do it anymore.

  • @lgarza186
    @lgarza186 Рік тому +1

    Hit the nail on the coffin. Homegirl is chilling, she's not interested in doing any promotion, or touring for that matter.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      You can’t blame her - I wouldn’t be either if I was that rich

  • @lauralannister3399
    @lauralannister3399 Рік тому

    I agree, Back to Basics was a huge smash hit after Stripped.

  • @lonellfletcher
    @lonellfletcher Рік тому +1

    The Back to Basics double album might've been divisive, but I think its fucking gold!!!!!! Not a dud in the bunch.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      a lot of fans like it. I think it could've been a classic if she's left a few songs off (like that tribute to her fans). But everyone hears music differently

  • @1flutedude
    @1flutedude Рік тому +2

    #bionic was also the #2 most illegally downloaded album of 2010 and it was released in June so that also says a lot! People don’t buy music like they use to up to and before 2003…

  • @danielzapatamartinez5079
    @danielzapatamartinez5079 Рік тому +1

    the early naughties😈

  • @Epuertasr
    @Epuertasr Рік тому +1

    Uhm...even though I do believe that creating a record, a successful one, takes a village and more than just the artist auteur vision, to narrow the success of her debut and subsecuent records til Stripped to Ron Fair is a little belittling of her. But I do agree on some parts where she seems happy with doing what she feels honest to a smaller level of success. I often think if any one of us would achieve that level of success would we still choose to work? I'd be retiring and enjoying my life for sure...

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I didn't mean to belittle her; I just think he played an important part in the success of the first few albums. I should've stressed that a huge part of her success can also be attributed to her astonishing voice, work ethic etc

    • @Epuertasr
      @Epuertasr Рік тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey a few days back someone released interviews with all the people involved in making Stripped and Ron Fair said he coined the nickname Xtina, and she backed this up yesterday in a Stripped Dive thing over on IG... So yeah he played a huge part. And yet, I don't think his absense could be attributed as a solid reason as to why her later projects don't pick up. Also, most of her peers are not getting ALL their flowers with the exception of Beyonce. Times have really changed and it's VERY hard for a legacy act to break through -even though I agree her projects have fallen short (Expectations, and in the case of Lotus, the quality of the material)
      I often look at Madonna (I LOVED your videos on her) and think that if even her has a hard time breaking through... The others really don't stand a chance.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      @@Epuertasr thanks for your kind words about my Madonna videos. Yes it would be incredibly hard for Christina to get back to the forefront of music now, the industry has changed too much. But I sometimes think Christina should be the biggest recording artist on the planet because she is arguably the best vocalist of the last 20 years - yes people might prefer other people's 'tones' but technically I can't think of anyone who has emerged since 2000 who can sing like that. I think people really want to hear her 'sing' again but she needs to make the right record. But as you say, it might be too difficult now.
      I think Ron Fair knew how to pick the songs and most importantly the hits. You can have everything else in place, but if there aren't hits, it won't work. That's why I placed such importance on his role in the videos.

  • @ronanyomu5967
    @ronanyomu5967 Рік тому +3

    Do give up and be persistent. Continue making vids

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      I think you meant 'don't give up'. At least I hope you did 🤣🤣🤣

  • @bjanderson_09
    @bjanderson_09 Рік тому +1

    Unpopular opinion, I liked Not Myself Tonight!

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      It is an enjoyable song, I would say

  • @nameisamine
    @nameisamine Рік тому +1

    I think the major troubles for her started with the Bionic album. Lady Gaga was dominating and it just made Bionic look redundant.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      yes a lot of fans love it but there is no denying Bionic didn't go according to plan. You can't be huge forever, I suppose

  • @darnellmajor8895
    @darnellmajor8895 Рік тому +1

    Christina didn't ''peak'' with Stripped.......The CULTURE never really knew who she was because of all the Britney comparisons so therefore, she became a ''flop'' in that context but she was always her own artists with quality work.

  • @sparkswolverine
    @sparkswolverine Рік тому

    Stripped is Christina's fourth album.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yes but her second English album of new material.

  • @fanstastic83
    @fanstastic83 Рік тому +1

    5:17 lol

  • @HEARDIFFERENT
    @HEARDIFFERENT Рік тому +1

    Xtina is a f…….g absolute powerhouse. Bionic and back to basics are so f……..g underrated but not for us. The only album I have my doubts was lotus. In any case I see the same freemasonry agenda. You are in the field. We pick you we make a super album. You become a household name. And then we drop you to find the next one. Still you have to release albums and video promoting our agenda. E.g. Stripped. Misunderstood. Nelly. Etc. yes music is insipiration but only a few people who write for themselves are privileged to make constant records. Hits and non hits. Album is a very serious job. And there are few that you could listen from start to finish. And mainly belong to writers. Prince Michael Massive Attack Royksopp Faithless etc.

  • @raga7507
    @raga7507 Рік тому +1

    Her record album didn't support her with less music videos since back to basic

  • @bjornjohansen5397
    @bjornjohansen5397 Рік тому

    The guy in this video has the most beautiful earthy dark eyes.

  • @ronanyomu5967
    @ronanyomu5967 Рік тому +1

    Plzzzz do a vid on zara larson and bebe rexah

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I don't really know anything about them. I think this channel is going to focus more on 90s/00s pop - sorry

  • @tonycruz2939
    @tonycruz2939 Рік тому

    The second sentence is totally wrong... stripped was released in 2002, not the "early nineties" @00:04

  • @goldranger5182
    @goldranger5182 Рік тому +1

    Next: Celine Dion

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      What angle should I take on Celine Dion?

    • @goldranger5182
      @goldranger5182 Рік тому

      @@jonnyharvey her best selling albums era lets talk about love and falling in toyou era. Her peak

  • @24kgoldplatedvermeil
    @24kgoldplatedvermeil 11 місяців тому

    I think she has image issues and its as simple as that. Shes been branded as having a bad attitude and thus a lot of people both within the industry and the consumer associate her with negativity. Which is a shame since shes long since been humbled and has released quality stuff over the past 6-7 years. Maybe she’ll get a mass re-evaluation eventually but i dont see it happening anytime soon.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  11 місяців тому +1

      Yes I agree - people want pop stars now who seem nice - Beyonce, Gaga & Rihanna & Katy & Taylor all seem really pleasant. Maybe it was unjust but Christina wasn’t seen as nice

    • @24kgoldplatedvermeil
      @24kgoldplatedvermeil 11 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey have you listened to her recent spanish album? So good. Not sure if it hit in the latin market though? Although i think she won a latin grammy.

  • @victoriassme
    @victoriassme Рік тому +1

    Her style of singing has become passé. That is the number one reason. Gen Zs prefer the less forced casual style of Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodriguez. Even Mariah Carey has toned down her vocal runs in her last album Caution to try and be more relevant.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +2

      That’s a really good point. Thanks for sharing. I know all my friends hate ‘acrobatic’ or ‘warbling’ style vocals.

  • @carlospointofview
    @carlospointofview Рік тому +1

    Seems like Christina is over being a pop star, specially after Lotus, but keeps doing the thing since that’s what is expected from her. I had been waiting for her second Spanish album but unfortunately it sounds like generic Regueton pop, not bad, just generic.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      yes I think you're right - she doesn't want to do the big international popstar thing anymore. She's probably far happier having a quieter life.

  • @ohmarkayam
    @ohmarkayam Рік тому

    First three albums were iconic! Then she just lost her drive…
    She couldn’t keep up like Madonna or Beyonce …..

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      I suppose who can in fairness? Why put yourself through all that when you’re already a squillionaire?

  • @GARdotETH
    @GARdotETH Рік тому

    😂😂😂 "He was really heavy on drugs at the time". I guess you'd have to be on something to think that you could get any kind of musical notes out of Paris Hilton 👀

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +1

      No disrespect to Paris but imagine working with Paris Hilton instead of Christina Aguilera - you’d need to be out of your mind.

  • @firouz256
    @firouz256 Рік тому

    The BEP were famous and better before Fergie joined!
    Just sayin`
    It was considered "sellout" in Hiphop when Fergie joined

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yes I remember saying that to me before. They became more commercial around that time.

  • @goldranger5182
    @goldranger5182 Рік тому

    The reason bionic didnt do well because its Lady Gaga Rise

  • @mohamedanisferchichi2071
    @mohamedanisferchichi2071 Рік тому

    I am sorry you being a bit biased in the way you interpret facts! Wikipedia would have been more “objective”. Good job though

  • @RazzoRojas
    @RazzoRojas Рік тому +1

    Sales and metrics are not everything

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      This is true. I’m always thinking about the bottom line

  • @fideispears
    @fideispears Рік тому

    Weird angle to just praise all the guys involved in her career and make it out like they are the only reason she was popular.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I don’t think I projected the message that men were the ONLY reason Christina was so popular. Christina’s voice is astonishing & played a huge part in her success. But success has many fathers & it take a village to make a superstar. Nobody does it alone & working with the right people is crucial. And my angle wasn’t ‘weird’ - I was able to support all my theories

  • @chubidelrosario4417
    @chubidelrosario4417 8 місяців тому

    I think Christina peaked with b2b..

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  8 місяців тому

      that's cool. We're all entitled to our opinions. Boring world if we all thought the same

    • @chubidelrosario4417
      @chubidelrosario4417 8 місяців тому

      @@jonnyharvey except your wrong

  • @jackyfrom_usa522
    @jackyfrom_usa522 10 місяців тому

    no album didnt even hit number 1 also dont have any number 1 single either she have only TWO succeeded albums debut and back to basics

  • @peterkian
    @peterkian Рік тому

    Maybe becuase she was tacky and over the top. Why sing a song when you can oversing it?

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I guess that was the singing style at the time.

  • @ttban1988
    @ttban1988 Рік тому +1

    U speak the language of truth, with pure FACTS! Her career started declining from back to basics

  • @nemanjaras
    @nemanjaras Рік тому

    After Bionic Christina became Floptina.

  • @bcarlosd
    @bcarlosd Рік тому +1

    She was a flash in the pan & dated. She’s a product of 1999.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +6

      I disagree. She’s one of the greatest singers on the planet.

    • @bcarlosd
      @bcarlosd Рік тому +1

      @@jonnyharvey She over sang absolutely everything & was a complete airhead in her interviews desperately trying to sound intelligent. Her relevance ended with TRL.

    • @Salsero12
      @Salsero12 Рік тому

      @@bcarlosd 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jeniestra.
      @jeniestra. Рік тому

      She won a Grammy two weeks ago. A product of 1999 😂😂😂.

    • @bcarlosd
      @bcarlosd Рік тому

      @@jeniestra. She won a Latin Grammy when she can only sing in Spanish phonetically 😂 Cut it out!

  • @ms.carriage6867
    @ms.carriage6867 Рік тому +1

    shes always struck me as a music snob. If she cant see the appeal to other music/musicians then it must be garbage. She's not a talented song writer or even a good live performer. She lacks the stage presence and relies on those overly forced vocal fry/growl sounds 🤔🤫

    • @wildhearts242
      @wildhearts242 Рік тому +1

      You clearly have never seen Christina live. She puts on a great show and definitely has stage presence.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Yes I think she needed to be more flexible in her thinking about writing hits.

  • @Patrick3183
    @Patrick3183 Рік тому

    Christina washed up over a decade ago. She failed because she chased Britney instead of the Adele sound she should’ve gone for.

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      I agree that she should have gone for a more pop soul sound like Adele. But I don’t think she was willing to go down that route

  • @jotjotzzz5357
    @jotjotzzz5357 Рік тому +2

    Her other albums after Stripped were so BORING and she chose the wrong songs, no theme, inconsistent and unfocused. She couldn’t do better after that. Sigh

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому

      Stripped was pretty brilliant - hard to match/top

  • @Thundersnowy
    @Thundersnowy Рік тому

    She was a Britney wannabe.
    She just didn't have the talent or pizzazz Britney did. Britney was AMAZING all by herself. Christina needed lots of other people to make her a star

    • @jonnyharvey
      @jonnyharvey  Рік тому +5

      I think everyone needs other ppl to make them a star. Nobody does it by themselves

    • @himi9413
      @himi9413 Рік тому

      you britney fans are fkin obsessed with xtina, always chillin' in her videos!
      xtina had 4 #1 songs as a new artist and killd britney with that + SHE TOOK HER NEW ARTIST GRAMMY AWAY HA-HA.

    • @Thundersnowy
      @Thundersnowy Рік тому

      @@himi9413 my opinion.
      And I like Britney, but was never a 'Britney fan. '
      That was my observation of her. Always so jealous and a bully to Britney. It was obvious even to a passerby.

    • @ruebenromero2497
      @ruebenromero2497 Рік тому +8

      She was never a Britney wannabe. Britney didn’t do anything by herself lmao

    • @ntuzunkaurintah
      @ntuzunkaurintah Рік тому

      @@Thundersnowy well it's 2022 and Britney's true color came out she was the real bully and a snake who pretended to be a sheep