My Favorite Pro7 Mac Setup under $1000
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
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agreed
As a guy who built a PC for home, but uses a macbook pro on the go...I think this is fantastic, and realistically idk that you're gonna hit the reliability of the new mac mini's at that price point with a PC. Plusss if all your other computers are macs, the consistency for volunteers cannot be understated. Simplify to magnify!
Bought the HTMI splitter!! Love your work 😎
Very helpful! Thanks for making this video!
We use an ATEM Mini to switch HDMI sources for our main screen. If the ATEM is on Program Preview and the HDMI output is set to preview, you can bring a single camera into the computer on the program bus via USB, while the numbered buttons still switch sources on the Preview bus to the screen.
This is right on!
Great video as always Ryland! One area you could possibly cut some costs is buying a cheaper display link adapter over the UltraStudio Monitor 3g. It has to be "Display Link," not a basic HDMI adapter. Display link adapters use special drivers to bypass apple silicon display limits. You can find these for around $50. The 3g is definitely from a more reliable brand but if you are looking to save some more money its an option to consider.
Very innovative 👍🏼
Great ❤ idea bro 😎
We went with a lenovo pc with nvidia quadro video card. That gave me 7 video outputs and plenty of encoding power for our stream, monitor, confidence monitor, and audience screens. I may set up another output for our lobby. The outputs and dongles were the number one reason we didn't stay with a Mac. Also I know how to remote into it from home. With a compact tower, it does have a much larger footprint. 😊
I am running a VERY similar setup for our youth as well actually. They're just running without a confidence monitor and that's it. I think I'll be adding one for them soon.
We're using the Logitech MX Master 3S though cuz we're a little overkill LOL.
Sounds like a good setup. I hadn't thought of using the Monitor 3G to add a stage display. We've been wanting to give our choir director a display in the rehearsal room, but couldn't justify the upgrade cost for that. This would be a much cheaper solution than adding a Decklink for that one extra output
If they just need lyrics you could always try the Apple TV with ProPresenter Stage Display App over the network.
Nice video, I really enjoyed it. I have the M1 Mac Mini with 8gb of RAM and 256gb storage. It's not used in our church, but it does all our pre and postproduction work. We don't live-stream, I record the service and use Davinci Resolve to edit the video on the Mac and it renders really quickly for me.
I wish you could still buy the m1 mac minis new! At least I couldn't find em, they are still really good.
Hi Ryland. Thank you so much for this video!! I've basically copied it for my 50 member church. I have a few questions though. How were you able to get the ATEM Mini to go out to the main screen and also have a multi-view monitor? Is that we're the HDMI splitter comes into play? Also, can you explain more about getting lower thirds out of PP7 into the ATEM? We used to have an Intel MacBook Pro that had more ports and I could just use HDMI out to the ATEM. Now that we've switched to the Mac Mini M2 we've used up all of our thunderbolt / HDMI ports with the audience, stage screen and desktop monitor. It almost makes we had got the Mac Studio but that was way more expensive. Anyhow, any advice you can share would be amazing!! Thanks again!!
Hi, which Apple laptop would you recommend for Pro-Presenter?
Hey, thank you for this. Do you have any justification for why you went with boosting the internal storage to 512GB, rather than increasing the RAM to 16GB?
Thanks
Hey, So I have a Mac PC 21 and I have 2 HDMIs running from the pc to the ATEM switcher, When I have added the MBD UL. Studio Monitor I can set up a stage and Audience display, but I cant lyrics and Media from presenter to Live stream, I use BMD Switcher and Studio 4k for streaming and routing. I've tried with looks, Can you share with me the NDI method and what Software you use to send lyrics?
We recently switched to NDI outputs. This sends the screens over the network, making them available anywhere. Using Birddog Play as the decoders. This also takes a big processing load off of the computer.
Downside, as you mentioned, is that it's not an actual display. This is good (no lost mouse wondering around the screen during service) and bad (everything displayed has to be in ProPresenter).
Putting an ATEM in the mix would certainly help address the downsides.
The bird dogs look interesting, have they been dependable?
@@RylandRussell yes sir, and we're a mobile church plant with weekly setup/teardown at different venues.
They have been rock solid, much more reliable than the wireless HDMI that was in use before.
Birddog is the grandaddy of NDI, so I would expect nothing less.
I definitely think Mac is way more reliable for church multimedia. Two years ago our church switched to PC and we've had so many problems with that setup.
Any thoughts on the use of an HDMI to Ethernet adapter on the HDMI output of the ATEM Mini Pro to send video signals to projectors? My church has been using them for a few years now with very few issues.
Back in the day people had lots of issues with the Ethernet video baluns but nowadays they seem to work well enough. I prefer sdi for me.
We use almost exactly a set up like this. It's pretty great!
On the Mac vs PC question, I think in terms of longevity, Mac wins hands down. You can use a Mac way past its shelf life and they rarely if ever die. We're still using a 2014 Mac mini (previously our ProPresenter computer) at FOH for multitrack recording + LiveProfessor. Mac hardware is really solid and from my experience, basically never die.
I've built PCs too and while they are cheaper, they will not last as long and would need more regular maintenance (both software and hardware). This might be acceptable for home/office use but for a church production environment, I don't think I would take the reliability hit.
What do you suggest for using the same Mac to run main projector, stage monitor and OBS livestream?
You could use this setup for that, would just need a way to get video into the mac mini. Atem Mini
If we are only running PP7 to display worship lyrics to one projector screen, which Mac model would work best and last longer?
Ya the Mac mini m2 I linked in the description would be my go to for that 👍
The monitor farm had me lolololololol
More like a monitor cemetery tbh 😀
Ryland, we purchased all those items you mentioned in the video and we're also testing ProPresenter 7 (we've been using MediaShout). That said, we're having issues w/ the ATEM Mini Pro. We're going from the splitter (Mac Mini2 signal) to HDMI input 1 on the ATEM. Then, I plugged in the old laptop we were using w/ MediaShout into HDMI input 2. When I choose input 1 on ATEM, it'll show our Mac Mini for a short time (seconds), then it goes away, w/o ever coming back. When I choose input 1 on ATEM, the laptop works perfectly. Are there settings on the ATEM or on the Mac Mini I need to adjust, so the ATEM can work w/ our Mac Mini? We like the idea of having the ATEM to go between machines. Also, the ATEM got pretty hot after a while and w/o a power off option, we're concerned. Are you seeing that on your end? Thanks! Blessings.
Does Mac mini work in input 2? Are your frame rates matched in Atem setup and Mac mini output?
Tried other inputs and same thing. As for frame rates, not sure I know where to do that. No manual, so I'm checking out some videos on the ATEM Mini Pro. That's prob what needs to happen. As for heating up, that normal, Rylan? I'll be back here at church tomorrow to keep working on this. Appreciate your help and your video was AWESOME. So good we bough all those items, ha! Thank you, blessings. @@RylandRussell
Ryan, back at church for a couple of hours. Trying to figure out how to set up the frame rates.@@RylandRussell
So when I removed the OREI splitter and go directly from the Mac Mini via the AV multiport adapter to the ATEM, it works. I'm wondering if the OREI splitter is failing, because I'm only using output 1 for the projector and have nothing on output 2 yet. I'm trying to track down a second projector to test that, but I'm glad I can at least bypass the OREI splitter for now and project off the ATEM.
Ryland, got almost everything up and running; workstation monitor, stage confidence monitor, and one of the 2 audience monitors coming off splitter. Still working on projector to display properly. Not sure if you can share the steps to match the frame rates. Thanks for everything, super excited!@@RylandRussell
So if I have a Mac mini m2,two monitors and a projector the black magic device will work? I’ve had this set up for a year in our kids church and have only been able to run one monitor with the other collecting dust
You have to use the blackmagic device with software that can send signal through it like Pro7. You can't use it as a system display if that is what you are asking.
@@RylandRussell I was gonna use one display as our main for the projector and the second display for lightkey
Can you run multiple screen with that Mac mini?
Yes, I talk about it in the video…
@@RylandRussellyou did, my bad I had to watch it twice. Lol also what Mac studio do you have? I'm planing on having mac studio for pro presenter and a $700 m2 mac mini for vocal tuning and another one for lighting. Any recomendstion +
can you add more than one UltraStudio Monitor 3G to get even more outputs?
You’d be better off going for this amzn.to/3SclYkA with this amzn.to/47zOl0C
@@RylandRussell thanks ! Keep those great videos coming!
Ok, I was told by Pro7 I needed 16BG of ram. Thanks!!
More ram won’t hurt but if you are doing general images and video I think you’ll be fine.
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I'm a pc guy through and through except when it comes to the sanctuary, pro 7 with windows is pants (Britishism for not good), and mac integration with lightkey etc is worth losing a tiny bit of my soul to use a mac 🤦♂️😂
You're right that you probably could do the same thing for a lot cheaper on Windows. It looks like:
PC - $429
HDMI 1 - included
HDMI 2 - included
USB to HDMI Adaptor - $50
So, about $479 for the setup. Though I've never tried going this cheap for ProPresenter.
Regardless, you haven't taken into account that you need a monitor, of some kind and you need to get a keyboard and mouse (no one should have to use an Apple keyboard and mouse). And that's assuming that you already have a projector and some kind of stage display screen.
Barely under 1000$😭 but nice video
That's how most "under ___ " videos work. It's under that amount lol.
@@Jonathan.Boring Ik but it still
makes the viewer think it’s not going to be as close to 1000 lol
@@lonefoxwastaken If you need it even cheaper the 256GB mac mini m2 is $549 currently. You'd need external drives pretty quick though. bhpho.to/41O3tWO
@@RylandRussell ill get the 512gb one