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I always thought that heavy weapons with severe movement penalty was for orange class character than the other two since it can remove penalty whenever he equipped those weapons
@@aoiminase wdym all classes can remove penalties, it’s called Skeletonized Also Shockfield is better than any gun with a big movement penalty + it’s really stupid to use them instead of Shock because you think a class is “meant” to use certain gun types
So basically every gun compares to the shock field is overrated lol, great comparison. Apparently guns are not allowed to be viable unless it's not shockfield
Actually due to LMG mastery lvl 5 for 35% adaptive, proposition without 1 aug slot is still alright. But shockfield is better and so is Festungsbrecher (my new fav bio gun). Funny part about s3100 is 65% shockfield DPS but 600%+ HDA cost 💀🗿(yes i count ammo quantity you buy). Also im in disbelief that Krakatoa is outclassed by red sf. I grinded for that shit.
As a Level 14 Assault that started, what 2 days ago, seeing the amount of SAS Credits you have is insane to me! 676,000,000?! Holy hell! So far I use: -⭐5 Sabre pistol with 5/5 Deadly -⭐3 RIA 50 with 3/3 Deadly -⭐3 HVM 005 G-Class [RED] with 3/3 Overclocked Gotta say, the RIA 50 has >1000 damage and is very useful in taking down bosses quickly (at my level). Sabre Pistol also doesn't affect my movement so its useful for running fast around the map.
Zerfallen is not everrated. Some players just doesn't have what it takes to use it. I am usin zerfallen and I put skeletonized, deadly and race modded. With the help of armor and skill points, it will only reload in 2.8s. When you fire it, it will devastate everything on its way. Also, it only takes one or two bullet to kill a normal bosses. I currently have 81 billion total damage in my zerf.🙂
i remember when the mixmaster had a fire rate of 12 per second right out of the box and getting all exited when i got a decent red one. i was pretty bummed out when it got nerfed down to 6
I’m waiting for an update that makes this game more interesting before I play the game again. It sounds like since the last update, the only thing worth using at all is the shockfield. While I don’t dislike the shockfield, the game just doesn’t seem nearly as fun with that being the only gun anyone is going to want to use. For now I’m just keeping my app not up to date and waiting for a good/interesting update.
Shockfield is just objectively the best, plenty of other guns are still pretty good and fun to use such as the Jupiter or Festungsbrecher. You can play the game and have plenty of fun with other guns. I personally prefer Jupiter over Shockfield tbh. It's just that from a meta standpoint Shockfield just is the best.
Honestly, I've been using Stripper for years (I don't play the game very often and am level 30 atm) and thought it was just really good and fun to use too. I used Strike-whatever before it (basically a fire version of Stripper) because I found it was really good while I played web before PC came out (I was level mid-twenties on web). I'm not surprised it's not the best and have been thinking about switching to something else but I never looked into the SAS4 community before now and I never use anything other than Stripper so I felt no need to do any experimenting. I didn't know that Stripper was effectively nerfed or that it gets more useless over time (though; again; not surprised). Thanks for the video, I now have a better idea on what to think about while playing and experimenting. I don't particularly like or have any interest in min/maxing or getting the best gun but it's still fun to know more :P
This game is fun and all bit it definitely needs more gun variety and viability. Basically it's play until you get shockfield the proceed to never equip anything else ever
I knew it!!! I had a feeling they nerfed my black stripper 😭😭😭I noticed it felt weaker but I thought I was buggin. Now I'm legit sad, it's my best weapon.
Tip: if you are not new but have been playing the game for a while but still not a really good pro Weapons i recommend for mobbing would be the hotspot laser gun and i reccomend using alot of skillpoints on assault team as it can really help you in dire situations be it a boss or gigantic mob of zombies the amount of skillpoints i would urge you to spendm would be 24-30 skill points for your assault team to be overpowered AND last 2 minutes or more I hope this helped :)
isnt like red shockfield not as good as we thought it to be? does this mean that stripper has some value before you get a black shockfield or red shockfield?
You have trouble articulating thoughts. "If you disagree, then you're just stupid!" Very compelling arguments. Basically just gives me permission to dismiss this entire video.
My question is... Is Festungbretcher still good today? Is it worth buying a Festungbretcher? When will it be released again? What augments should i use?
Yikes. A lot has changed since the Flash version of SAS4 died. But thats the nature of everything, not just video games....Change. My Maxed Black Hardplate Armor with a Maxed Black Proposition, with 25 Heavy Gear increased speed movement and melted everything. Not only was that combo devastating, but the Sound and Looks was intimidating. Also, what about the Black Stripper? That was a Must have for bossing.
Goddamit I should've looked at this video before maxing my 10/3 red stripper, I was only going with the knowledge I had from playing the game some years ago and ended up making the mistake of thinking it was still the best gun for bossing, I guess I'll just have to grind all that money again for a better bossing gun...
Pistols are overrated, which makes sense since pistols don't make much of the damage, and even crits ofc, but since l don't even used Trailblazer [Black].
@@Aronimous i mean, there's a pistol slot for pistols, of course people will put pistol on that slot and it's still a pistol, of course it won't be better than the primary guns
My dream of buying either the proposition or the stripper:( (I was grinding credits to buy both guns let's just say that my dream of having one got crushed) But still, i have my hotspot laser with me As my main gun to grind, until one if the strongboxes inside have a shockfield or the jupiter.
tbh I love the zerf I have the ammo vest from faction wars and I have 4 rockets and like you said for fun mostly I use mostly zerf and Jupiter with the last mastery
I remember using the Proposition I thought it was kinda good, since I had no aug slots and used it a lot until I decided to delete the character at level 36.
I kinda have to use krakatoa because I bought it and it's my strongest gun I own for bosses otherwise I wouldn't use it but I want a refund they nerfd the gun when I bearly bought it👁👄👁
Thanks for this, been struggling to put out damage and make effective builds. I have a lot of arguably useless-but-fun, guns. Or at least, I have a lot of guns that were nerfed by the devs, or just aren't as good as they were awhile back.
Proposition sucks more because of the huge damage dropoff, whereas Hotspot is better since it has no damage dropoff at all. You use Shockfield to mob and Hotspot for bossing (If you insist of doing so)
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hyi primeo i tjik riea t40 is beddsr than shockfiedf
I always thought that heavy weapons with severe movement penalty was for orange class character than the other two since it can remove penalty whenever he equipped those weapons
@@aoiminase wdym all classes can remove penalties, it’s called Skeletonized
Also Shockfield is better than any gun with a big movement penalty + it’s really stupid to use them instead of Shock because you think a class is “meant” to use certain gun types
@@ThePrimoZ with lbs perk too?
@@aoiminase 4:59
Literally watch the video you’re commenting on
Just woke up from a 3 month coma. I sure hope my fully cored krakatoa, stripper, and mustang are doing alright
Go back to sleep old man
wait fr?
@@papabear7457 This
@@NineUnity yeah its crazy
@@epixman_ zamn
Because they're not shockfield silly
So basically every gun compares to the shock field is overrated lol, great comparison. Apparently guns are not allowed to be viable unless it's not shockfield
Cry me a river Mixmaster fanboy
@@lucasp8311shockfield is not fun
@@Sten05 subjective opnion.
@@lucasp8311someone needs a shock-field to carry them for their lack of skill
lmao i doubt you are better than me@@scythesoultheif8368
Actually due to LMG mastery lvl 5 for 35% adaptive, proposition without 1 aug slot is still alright. But shockfield is better and so is Festungsbrecher (my new fav bio gun). Funny part about s3100 is 65% shockfield DPS but 600%+ HDA cost 💀🗿(yes i count ammo quantity you buy). Also im in disbelief that Krakatoa is outclassed by red sf. I grinded for that shit.
“s3100”
Bro make up your mind
"I can't wait to use my 3100!"
Shielders and bugged radius:
As a Level 14 Assault that started, what 2 days ago, seeing the amount of SAS Credits you have is insane to me! 676,000,000?! Holy hell! So far I use:
-⭐5 Sabre pistol with 5/5 Deadly
-⭐3 RIA 50 with 3/3 Deadly
-⭐3 HVM 005 G-Class [RED] with 3/3 Overclocked
Gotta say, the RIA 50 has >1000 damage and is very useful in taking down bosses quickly (at my level). Sabre Pistol also doesn't affect my movement so its useful for running fast around the map.
Zerfallen is not everrated. Some players just doesn't have what it takes to use it. I am usin zerfallen and I put skeletonized, deadly and race modded. With the help of armor and skill points, it will only reload in 2.8s.
When you fire it, it will devastate everything on its way.
Also, it only takes one or two bullet to kill a normal bosses.
I currently have 81 billion total damage in my zerf.🙂
Man that makes me so sad that the proposition isn't very good. It was my favorite weapon when I used to play this game back in the day.
same it carried me till lvl 70
just bought krakatoa using the faction armory bug few hours ago. its literally killed me when i realised that it deal less dps than festungsbrecher
Need more info how is this done
Need more info how is this done
Bug??
Moral of the story: anything but shockfield is trash my dude
Not entirely
Use what you feel you're more accustomed to. Just watch out for the obviously crap guns. And almost half of them being the premium ones
i remember when the mixmaster had a fire rate of 12 per second right out of the box and getting all exited when i got a decent red one. i was pretty bummed out when it got nerfed down to 6
Inferno content
My content now
Mix master is just way easier to get at a low level so it's a alright substitute
Yes
I’m waiting for an update that makes this game more interesting before I play the game again. It sounds like since the last update, the only thing worth using at all is the shockfield. While I don’t dislike the shockfield, the game just doesn’t seem nearly as fun with that being the only gun anyone is going to want to use. For now I’m just keeping my app not up to date and waiting for a good/interesting update.
Shockfield is just objectively the best, plenty of other guns are still pretty good and fun to use such as the Jupiter or Festungsbrecher. You can play the game and have plenty of fun with other guns. I personally prefer Jupiter over Shockfield tbh. It's just that from a meta standpoint Shockfield just is the best.
Me still waiting for the shockfield nerf
I still love playing SAS4. Such a fun game 🤘🏻
Honestly, I've been using Stripper for years (I don't play the game very often and am level 30 atm) and thought it was just really good and fun to use too. I used Strike-whatever before it (basically a fire version of Stripper) because I found it was really good while I played web before PC came out (I was level mid-twenties on web). I'm not surprised it's not the best and have been thinking about switching to something else but I never looked into the SAS4 community before now and I never use anything other than Stripper so I felt no need to do any experimenting. I didn't know that Stripper was effectively nerfed or that it gets more useless over time (though; again; not surprised). Thanks for the video, I now have a better idea on what to think about while playing and experimenting. I don't particularly like or have any interest in min/maxing or getting the best gun but it's still fun to know more :P
This game is fun and all bit it definitely needs more gun variety and viability. Basically it's play until you get shockfield the proceed to never equip anything else ever
I didn't know u were back posting, man I love it, love the videos. Keep them coming.
What would the best weapon be if you don't have a shockfield?
Watch Crunch’s video (pinned comment/end of video)
Some guns are just not there anymore after the updates, I logged in after many months and I was shocked to see that. Like the garanade prem pistol .
Solid video bro, that was what I was talking about. No hard fellings :)
I recently gotten back at the game restarting and hiks s300 was a good weapon to switch to for burst DMG then I just used Jupiter
i will still play with some of the guns in the video for fun cuz they were my fav guns back when i didnt know about shockfield :>
I'm new on the SAS4 world, can't even imagine what I have to suffer to reach that amount of health, health regen, bullets, money and weapons lmao
Jupiter is better than a LOT of premium weapons out there and even certain weapons
I knew it!!! I had a feeling they nerfed my black stripper 😭😭😭I noticed it felt weaker but I thought I was buggin. Now I'm legit sad, it's my best weapon.
all i wanna do is join the discord but the alt-dentifier verification is being super weird, saying "email will not be verified", sum1 please help. :,(
Tip: if you are not new but have been playing the game for a while but still not a really good pro
Weapons i recommend for mobbing would be the hotspot laser gun and i reccomend using alot of skillpoints on assault team as it can really help you in dire situations be it a boss or gigantic mob of zombies the amount of skillpoints i would urge you to spendm would be 24-30 skill points for your assault team to be overpowered AND last 2 minutes or more
I hope this helped :)
buff proposition that gives you an extra projectile, please
Buff roson pistol plss😎
Blud thinks he is Developer
isnt like red shockfield not as good as we thought it to be? does this mean that stripper has some value before you get a black shockfield or red shockfield?
You have trouble articulating thoughts. "If you disagree, then you're just stupid!"
Very compelling arguments. Basically just gives me permission to dismiss this entire video.
I use the hotspot as my main
Funny how I somehow knew the krak was gonna be worse so I bought festung first
You are a prophet sir
My money after I played a nightmare game with rocket launchers : **poor squidward meme**
Is black mixmaster good
Hell nah
I'm lv99 medical and I'm still using black striper and Im adding cores to it.
Should I keep going or go to shock field
Join the discord server (link in pinned comment) to learn about guns
to summarize it all..... *"if its not shockfiled then its bad"*
yesyes noted
My question is...
Is Festungbretcher still good today? Is it worth buying a Festungbretcher? When will it be released again? What augments should i use?
Definitely worth it. Just put dmg, overclock,adapt and skeletonized or ammo or bio i guess
I expected them to add boreas campaign to mobile before they stopped the updates );
they will ever buff the main skill of every sas cause aerial bombardment the cd kinda slow
Bombardment bad skill
Cousin what is the best weapon for Farma in Faction War more specifically in the way to destroy eggs?
Zerfallen>Jupiter=Festung>Shockfield in my opinion
@@boartank thanks
Yikes. A lot has changed since the Flash version of SAS4 died. But thats the nature of everything, not just video games....Change. My Maxed Black Hardplate Armor with a Maxed Black Proposition, with 25 Heavy Gear increased speed movement and melted everything.
Not only was that combo devastating, but the Sound and Looks was intimidating. Also, what about the Black Stripper? That was a Must have for bossing.
GG17 is a W
I disagree I'm still going to grind for the Krakatoa you can't stop me
Love how this is one of the only games I can relate to the old version of, was literally my
Childhood game and downloaded it after a good 6-7 years
Goddamit I should've looked at this video before maxing my 10/3 red stripper, I was only going with the knowledge I had from playing the game some years ago and ended up making the mistake of thinking it was still the best gun for bossing, I guess I'll just have to grind all that money again for a better bossing gun...
10/3 hiks sniper vs stripper 10/3
Red who good?
I just found this video Thx so much Now i have a new fav gun The shockfield :D
but
but
but gg17 funni
The only pistol I think is worth using is a Black Mustang with Overclocked, Deadly, and Adaptive...
Can someone help me I am lvl 20 heavy and I don't have any good weapon only Ronson's smh how should I farm weapons?
Join the discord server (link in pinned comment)
You cannot compare mixmaster and Shockfield, shockfield is harder to get than mixmaster.
I don't know but why is ronson overrated? I mean, we want to put pistol on our pistol slot and chose it, what's overrated with that?
Pistols are overrated, which makes sense since pistols don't make much of the damage, and even crits ofc, but since l don't even used Trailblazer [Black].
Also Ronson's damage is almost the same damage to Proposition [Black].
@@Aronimous i mean, there's a pistol slot for pistols, of course people will put pistol on that slot and it's still a pistol, of course it won't be better than the primary guns
@@somerandomguyinyoutubecomm8220 Yeah, GG17 is the better pistol on that pistol slot (if you are wondering).
personally I use pistols to move around faster, added with adrenaline its pretty good, otherwise yeah pistols in general not worth using.
Even then it's useless when you get a shockfeild it has a 0% penalty
Pistol with 0 movement penalty can have the the +2% movement mastery which makes it faster than the shockfield
@@blazinglancer8488 Right so like the Mustang, Unfortunately I use the Ronson 45
@@blazinglancer8488 i use the gg17 so i think it would also just drop to 0
So I should do faction wars? I haven't even tried it.
Losing 10k subs speedrun
Ok I may just be stupid but how what where is the armory and what do you mean buy guns...
faction war armory, you can buy certain weapons there for credits and planetary favor
Remember npcs, these are OVERRATED guns (Guns that look op but actually isnt) and NOT the best guns. :blind:
Conclusion: Only use shockfield
I was there when u filmed the video. Glad the Lufty isnt on here. It must be good then.
Launchers = Instantly garbage
Is there any SAS 4 group that active and play daily ?, I need some mates for coop :
Join the discord server (link in pinned comment)
@@ThePrimoZ got it, thanks man
seems like i've been gone so long from the game would love to be able to transfer my data to steam.
My dream of buying either the proposition or the stripper:(
(I was grinding credits to buy both guns let's just say that my dream of having one got crushed)
But still, i have my hotspot laser with me
As my main gun to grind, until one if the strongboxes inside have a shockfield or the jupiter.
At the beginning you sound like the dude from hello everyone this is your daily dose of Internet guy
You should do the top 10 underated guns in sas4
The supermarine is one of them good mobbing and ok bossing
i used to combo stripper and shock field now i only use shock field i got black and level 12
Yunno maybe
Maybe
Maybe you need to
*"level up*"
The only two black guns I got is stripper and mixmaster rip 😭
bruh jupiter common bro i havent gottten a single jupiter in my whole game history like im lvl 40
hI primo How do I verify on SaS World
youre are not primo
Alberknyis
The_Primo_Z
tbh I love the zerf I have the ammo vest from faction wars and I have 4 rockets and like you said for fun mostly I use mostly zerf and Jupiter with the last mastery
Ahhhh I got back to the game after some year and deleted all my sas4 account so I can start all over again........oh boi here we go again.
Who came here from discord
what is discord
Not me
I remember using the Proposition
I thought it was kinda good, since I had no aug slots and used it a lot until I decided to delete the character at level 36.
Prop at 5 Aug mag boost and 5 skeleton
@@NCR_RANGER6 Sounds good
I don’t mind my zerfallen😭🙂
I love this gun mixmaster put adaptive on it makes it better
I kinda have to use krakatoa because I bought it and it's my strongest gun I own for bosses otherwise I wouldn't use it but I want a refund they nerfd the gun when I bearly bought it👁👄👁
Just use it as a leveling gun
best armor next?
I think I saw you first in some fb group of Sas4
man i regret grinding for the S300 now
Where is 1887 shock field?
Overrated weapon only
Me with CM Proton Arc:🙂
I have the mixmaster I use it but I need a shockfield
cm 800 jupiter i like that but it have a good reloada i love that gun fire it have 1759 of damage sad
Thanks for this, been struggling to put out damage and make effective builds.
I have a lot of arguably useless-but-fun, guns. Or at least, I have a lot of guns that were nerfed by the devs, or just aren't as good as they were awhile back.
Join the discord server (link in pinned comment) for info on good builds
I just don't use pistol, most pistols suck
Gigavolt is the best fun weapon i think.
Definitely not , the jup is 9x better than the gigavolt
@@denjigotbackpainyees
I want to use a heavy gear
Are you inferno's brother?
It's 2024 now and the guns are still the same 😶
no i calculator the damage and Black stripper does more then black shockfield
People literally have side by side damage comparison videos after the 1.1 update. You're wrong.
Can i borrow whatever you snort everyday
Cool now add Killing Spree
Nah i dont Think so i mean the black shockfield shocked Stripper. I am in severe emotional pain I miss sas3 old times hahaha.... 🙁
i am good
lmao, so zerfallen is a gun for skilled people, RIP to those with skill issue
You sounded like inferno lmao
Infernos more mature and older brother
Conclusion: shockfield just better
I prefer to use the proposition over the hotspot, in my opinion it's much better for mobing and there are just better options for bosses
prop also garbage for mobbing because bad spread and 60% movement penalty
Proposition sucks more because of the huge damage dropoff, whereas Hotspot is better since it has no damage dropoff at all. You use Shockfield to mob and Hotspot for bossing (If you insist of doing so)
zerfallen is good for all
Shockfield black op.....
I want M16