For fixed price, the "tripartite of choice" helps. Showing them 3 options and 3 prices: a super high end version of the website, then a very basic option, and the "middle option" - the one 80% will take. It just gives prospects a basis to judge your prices, anchoring different value propositions in their minds. Otherwise, websites are so virtual it's hard for them to know if it's a good deal or not, and well, some designers sell similar websites for 500 that others ask 5K for.
A client just flat out told me she can only pay 60 dollars for a 5 page professional website. I have been on the job for days now. Really time consuming. Did i do the right thing by taking the job?
Thanks Payton. As always really great insights. I've learnt so much from you already and hopefully make additional money to take up your professional courses. Looking forward to Part 2!!
Great content! Is there a link for the second video? Would be amazing content to have too. Appreciate what you do for us web designers who are still trying to figure it out :)
What about support & maintenance? For example, WordPress needs version updates, fixes & troubleshooting for plug-in issues, and so forth. It's kind of a tough sell because either you factor that in (which raises the price) or provide it for free - or use a different platform entirely
Have you looked more into monthly charges? I want to do recurring monthly charges as well, but idk what is correct amount for small local businesses. $50? $100?
If it is my first client, I am 14 and my client knows this because he has seen me in real life, the website is fully responsive, functional, smooth and is very professional but lacks a unknown element that makes the website feel unfinished - maybe the color scheme. The last guy he had scammed him for a ton of money for the website (bought the domain he wanted and tried to charge $350 for it), but this person is nice and fair: How much should I charge?
@@PaytonClarkSmith you made any video on how to find such freelancers who can hire others? Or is there any platform for that? Thank you, you really respond quickly ☺️
Bro I'm currently working on my first website development and I have started in my personal account in SQUARE SPACE so what shld I do when I give it to the client.. Also from the nxt time shld I Get the clients account and login nd do there? Or shld I do it in my account itself
does it really take you guys 4 weeks to make a 3 page website? i’m asking genuinely cuz it takes me at MOST 3 days so i’m wondering if maybe i’m missing something…
The last part is terrible advice. 1 - Market rates hold no meaning (see all the factors involved in pricing a project + your experience + your ability to reduce the risk involved for your client) 2 - Did you seriously just advise people to sell the same thing at a slightly higher price to “increase the perceived value”. This is so wrong. You should find ways to provide more value to your clients, and reduce the risk involved for them in the project (more training, more experience, advanced topic knowledge, research, better tools, modern practices, etc. etc.) and sell THAT at a MUCH higher price point. Otherwise, we're just an entire industry of crooks and clients are **RIGHT** not to trust us. Common, be better, people! @Payton I'm very surprised to see your take on this. You should lead by example here. What you're recommending is bad for clients, and designers as well in the long run. I generally tend to like your videos but this one falls short on my quality strandards. I know you can do better.
"Otherwise, we're just an entire industry of crooks and clients are *RIGHT* not to trust us. Common, be better, people!". Not really. Websites are so virtual, you can't touch them, it's harder to all agree on prices. Some charge 500 and others 5K for a similar site. Are the first ones angels while the others crooks? Nope. That's the way it is in such a field, such as with any courses, coaches, etc. Prices vary with no actual line set of what is under or over priced. But yeah, find ways to stack value. Don't just sell websites or SEO or whatever. Make sure you bring clients results.
@@MVProfits I think there's some kind of misunderstanding here. I'm 100% with you on the fact it's hard to price, and services in the creative industry (be that design, development, or otherwise) are intangibles. But the effects of those services aren't. The results aren't. And I'm not saying we should all agree on a set of prices - in fact, that'd be pretty effed up because let's face it, a lot of people produce subpar work (and that's a polite understatement), while others create incredible marvels of brilliance and ingeniosity. You _should_ be paid more if you can deliver great work that produces tangible results for your clients. What I rage against, however, is this idea of “yeah, just take the industry standard, and bill a little higher”. → WHY? If you're a rookie, or you're just not that good, what could possibly justify billing higher? You're not delivering more value, you're not pushing yourself to better serve your clients, but you know… just bill higher! After all it doesn't matter, clients can't tell the difference anyway, just go buy a crappy theme on ThemeForest and slap it onto their website and TADA! Web development! ⬆That attitude is the problem. And that's what's being encouraged here. I not saying people who charge cheap prices are angels, and people who charge higher prices are crooks. In fact, very often designers and developers undercharge. I'm saying you shouldn't charge your clients (esp. higher than standard prices) for no reason.
To get the full Pricing Blueprint go to:
www.paitpro.com
PART 2! Let's go Payton! Good content as always, keep it up! I'm learning a ton.
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For fixed price, the "tripartite of choice" helps. Showing them 3 options and 3 prices: a super high end version of the website, then a very basic option, and the "middle option" - the one 80% will take. It just gives prospects a basis to judge your prices, anchoring different value propositions in their minds. Otherwise, websites are so virtual it's hard for them to know if it's a good deal or not, and well, some designers sell similar websites for 500 that others ask 5K for.
A client just flat out told me she can only pay 60 dollars for a 5 page professional website. I have been on the job for days now. Really time consuming. Did i do the right thing by taking the job?
@@MMABonesnope!
I want to sell a website.. monthly organic traffic 100k.
Part 2! Pretty insightful, man.
Great content, we want the Part 2 !!
Part 2! Most helpful pricing video to date.
Part 2 please! Thank you for the thorough breakdown. Great video!
Part 2! And we'd love to hear your take on the results from the polls.
Thanks Payton. As always really great insights. I've learnt so much from you already and hopefully make additional money to take up your professional courses. Looking forward to Part 2!!
I’m happy to hear you find them helpful. Keep up the good work!
Dont know if part two is ready yet but, PART TWO. Thank you !!
Part 2 🙋🏻♀️
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PART 2. Great video, many thanks!
Part 2
Your videos are great source of learning and inspiration for me. Many thanks for that!
I'm intrigued! Part 2 please.
The minimum engagement rate is what I've been relying on. And I set it higher every time I get the next client.
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Part 2! Great video!
Looking forward to Part 2!
Thank you. This was very helpful.
This is awesome! Thanks for this information!
Part 2 please!!! lots of amazing, free valuable info
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really love your content. Keep it up....! & Don't forget to upload it's full series. waiting for part2
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Great content! Is there a link for the second video? Would be amazing content to have too. Appreciate what you do for us web designers who are still trying to figure it out :)
I like your video presentation. It is informative too, at the same time. Thanks a lot for your guidance!
Part 2 please - this is great!
Part 2! Thanks for the super helpful content dude
Wood love to see part #2 Thanks great video
Part 2! Great information Payton!
Where does hosting for all of this fit in? Is this a separate charge or do you just hand over the website files?
Part 2!! Thanks for the valuable information
PART 2!! Let's go. Thank you Payton.
Super video, explaining it in detail.
What about support & maintenance? For example, WordPress needs version updates, fixes & troubleshooting for plug-in issues, and so forth. It's kind of a tough sell because either you factor that in (which raises the price) or provide it for free - or use a different platform entirely
Let’s go part 2!!!
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Great job man, thank you. Anywhere to see part 2?
Love the video. Thank you so much. Do love your tshirt as well. Can you share the brand of the Tshirt
The timing on this is uncanny. 🙌
Package Pricing is the one of best pricing that I could find :>
Good morning,
Can we purchase the PDF/Notion/etc. toolkit or resources? on your site without going through a subscription?
can you share the websites where you showed the pricing model ? 5:31. Thanks :))
Thank you! Topic explained very well 👌🏻 q
Can't wait until part 2.
Like usual part 2 👌
You got it! It’s already in the works
When is sitekeep ready ? Can’t wait for it you said 10 th of February 😊
We had to bump it back to the 25th 😩
Great fxcking video dude, Thanks!
Great info. Thank you!
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Part 2! 🎉
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Part 2 please ! 😊
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Do you have the business owners basically rent the website or do you just make it and they pay you for it and you hand it over?
Great content.
PART 2! Doing a great job man! ❤Thank you! 🙏🏻
Now how do you ensure that design is responsive 🤔
..what do you think of charging a monthly fee? Not only for maintanance but also for the website it self, like one fee per month all in package?
Have you looked more into monthly charges? I want to do recurring monthly charges as well, but idk what is correct amount for small local businesses. $50? $100?
Amazing video
If it is my first client, I am 14 and my client knows this because he has seen me in real life, the website is fully responsive, functional, smooth and is very professional but lacks a unknown element that makes the website feel unfinished - maybe the color scheme. The last guy he had scammed him for a ton of money for the website (bought the domain he wanted and tried to charge $350 for it), but this person is nice and fair: How much should I charge?
part 2 and 3 and 4!
2:02 can’t you just increase your hourly rate?
Is it good to work for some other freelancer in the beginning days of freelancing career?
Or it's better to stay by our own?
Absolutely! That can be a great way to gain experience
@@PaytonClarkSmith you made any video on how to find such freelancers who can hire others?
Or is there any platform for that?
Thank you, you really respond quickly ☺️
Part 2 please!
Do you use wordpress to make these websites?
Bro I'm currently working on my first website development and I have started in my personal account in SQUARE SPACE so what shld I do when I give it to the client.. Also from the nxt time shld I Get the clients account and login nd do there? Or shld I do it in my account itself
PART2 !!
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PART2!
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I just saw an ad for a fully customized website $9.99. This makes no sense, how are they even offering this.
Part 2!!!
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Part DOS !2️⃣
Part 2!
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Part 2 lets go
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PART 2!!!
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How much would you charge for a website with 50 PAGES??
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does it really take you guys 4 weeks to make a 3 page website? i’m asking genuinely cuz it takes me at MOST 3 days so i’m wondering if maybe i’m missing something…
PART 2, please
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This video is fucking awesome 😂💯
Part2 🎉
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LETS GOOOOOO!!!!
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Part 2 or infinity ❤️😀
Part 2 please
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Amazing
Part 2!!
Did we get a Part 2? I can't tell. haha
Part 2 Please
The botted comments go crazy, Part 2 plzz!!!
Part2 please
why do I have a feeling that this video is made with canva. I mean is it?
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PART 2! :)
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Hourly
Fixed project
Per page
Value based
Monthly/retainer
Subscription/productized
Package 1k for 12 months
Revenue share
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still not at 100? PART2!
The last part is terrible advice.
1 - Market rates hold no meaning (see all the factors involved in pricing a project + your experience + your ability to reduce the risk involved for your client)
2 - Did you seriously just advise people to sell the same thing at a slightly higher price to “increase the perceived value”. This is so wrong.
You should find ways to provide more value to your clients, and reduce the risk involved for them in the project (more training, more experience, advanced topic knowledge, research, better tools, modern practices, etc. etc.) and sell THAT at a MUCH higher price point.
Otherwise, we're just an entire industry of crooks and clients are **RIGHT** not to trust us. Common, be better, people!
@Payton I'm very surprised to see your take on this. You should lead by example here. What you're recommending is bad for clients, and designers as well in the long run. I generally tend to like your videos but this one falls short on my quality strandards. I know you can do better.
"Otherwise, we're just an entire industry of crooks and clients are *RIGHT* not to trust us. Common, be better, people!". Not really. Websites are so virtual, you can't touch them, it's harder to all agree on prices. Some charge 500 and others 5K for a similar site. Are the first ones angels while the others crooks? Nope. That's the way it is in such a field, such as with any courses, coaches, etc. Prices vary with no actual line set of what is under or over priced. But yeah, find ways to stack value. Don't just sell websites or SEO or whatever. Make sure you bring clients results.
@@MVProfits I think there's some kind of misunderstanding here.
I'm 100% with you on the fact it's hard to price, and services in the creative industry (be that design, development, or otherwise) are intangibles. But the effects of those services aren't. The results aren't.
And I'm not saying we should all agree on a set of prices - in fact, that'd be pretty effed up because let's face it, a lot of people produce subpar work (and that's a polite understatement), while others create incredible marvels of brilliance and ingeniosity. You _should_ be paid more if you can deliver great work that produces tangible results for your clients.
What I rage against, however, is this idea of “yeah, just take the industry standard, and bill a little higher”. → WHY?
If you're a rookie, or you're just not that good, what could possibly justify billing higher?
You're not delivering more value, you're not pushing yourself to better serve your clients, but you know… just bill higher!
After all it doesn't matter, clients can't tell the difference anyway, just go buy a crappy theme on ThemeForest and slap it onto their website and TADA! Web development!
⬆That attitude is the problem. And that's what's being encouraged here.
I not saying people who charge cheap prices are angels, and people who charge higher prices are crooks. In fact, very often designers and developers undercharge.
I'm saying you shouldn't charge your clients (esp. higher than standard prices) for no reason.