I’ve always paired an air mattress with a closed cell pad like that. It’s totally worth the weight for pad insurance and protection and extra warmth and comfort.
Definitely! I love being able to lay outside on my air mattress with the protection of the closed cell. Just plop down and enjoy being out in the nice weather.
After deciding this year at to get back in to backpacking after over two decades away just got back a gorgeous two night trip in the Olympic National Park coastal wilderness, thanks for being one of the channels that has helped me feel more confident and prepared as I get back in to this hobby!
Can’t wait to see your video about this hike. To me, 3-10 day hiking trips are actual backpacking. You literally have to bring everything you need. Being in New England, the Whites in the fall are amazing, but weather is always a concern. Great video and good luck on your hike.
You can even go into winter with 3 season gear by layering sleeping bags as well. As long as you're not constricted and not compressing the insulation, you can stay nice and toasty 😊 and if you bring the dog and can fit the dog in the sleeping bag with you, even better! 👍 😁
I have definitely done the sleeping bag + quilt combo and have gotten much more comfortable sleep on really cold trips that way. Definitely helpful to have a cuddle buddy too!
@@eric_hansonplease do a video on how to properly use 2 quilts/quilt & sleeping bag combo. I’ve watched a few videos on the topic and there’s a good chunk of conflicting information out there… Curious to see what you find best in your experience!
@@eric_hanson Where in Colorado? if its September 24th - October 5th the weather here in Colorado is great, no rain, clear skies, 70s high, 40s low. Honestly the best weather we've had all summer. only things i'm changing the next few weeks is using my 20 degree quilt instead of the 40, mittens, and maybe melly instead of senchi.
There is a "bubble wrap insulation" here in the UK it's called Alreflex 2L2, it's a housing insulation but it is very light so I have a piece of it just over 6 foot long and 30 inches wide, it rolls up extremely small (much smaller than my Thermarest foam mat) and weighs practically nothing but it is incredibly well insulating and is great for underneath my air mattress, one added bonus is that surprisingly (to look at it) it is incredibly fire resistant as well.
The edit during the Buff neck gaiter talk made me chuckle. I'm so excited is finally fall! I'm not a heat person, so hiking/backpacking in the fall is ideal for me
You should look into US surplus base layers. I know from experience while deployed to Afghanistan in the mountains it would get extremely cold and these base layers work! We had all kinds of gear!
The reactor liner is great. I also combine a big agnes farrington with my 10 degree zenbivvy to increase the comfort rating when it gets colder. The farrington is also a great summer bag when you only want a light cover.
I am totally backing you up on the backpack (I have the 48ltrs version and I have been quite happy with it in the italian alps), the mummy bag and the hiking boots. Winter alpine territory is something very very different
Thanks Eric, very helpful video, just in time for this wet and cold weather rolling in fast in Canada. Would love to see you do a video in BC in the future!
On the liner added to sleep system note I found similar warmth increase but swapping for my bivvy bag I use in summer when sans tent. In shoulder season and winter it adds extra redundancy for if tent fails and helps keep wind off that gets through my tent when conditions are moderate wind (usually durston xmid 2 solid). Especially handy in UK hills I spend most time as conditions usually very wet but warmer than alpine at close to but not quite freezing which I find sucks more than dry much colder alpine which I enjoy. Saved me in 7 hour storm was caught in earlier this week and I use it as a sleep system and secondary items dry bag inside my packs with smaller one for emergency dry clothes.
You should try using a USGI poncho liner also known as a woobie blanket inside a sleeping bag. Woobie blankets supposed to have a stand alone rating to about 60 or 50 degrees Fahrenheit and weigh a little over a pound.
I use my Zenbivy systems for all year round.The way I do this is I have a 10 degree extra large ultralight quilt for the shoulder months. I have a synthetic light bed 40 degree quilt. I have the quilt liner that they sell. I also have a fleece liner that I got from Amazon for 20 bucks. In the summer months, I use the synthetic quilt convertible with the rest of the Zen bivy sheet system. In the shoulder months, I use my ultra lite 10° down quilt. In the winter months, I use the sleep system with the ultra lite 10° down on the sheet system and on the inside I have my synthetic convertible quilt set up like a blanket under my down quilt. With the quilt liner between the down and the synthetic. That allows for me to have a comfort value of -5 Fahrenheit and the limit value of -25. If I choose to have the fleece for a potential of anything below -5. Or on the very hot summers the fleece works well as a blanket. I live in the Rocky mountains of Wyoming.
I was waiting for Miranda's double thumbs up at 9:17! Take care on your trip, there's a cold front going thru. Colorado Rockies are getting their first snow of the season.
Black Diamond jacket you're paying a premium for the brand name. Better options out there. And would not use a sun hoody as a base layer - mesh will be better and warmer and handle sweat better.
They sent me this jacket for testing purposes. For overall warmth I was a little underwhelmed, so yeah there are other options I prefer. It's crazy light. But won't be my go to for cold trips.
Butter, olive oil and sausage bring a lot of fat to the table when it's cool enough. That, and I pair one of my summer synthetic top quilts to go over my 3-season quilt to give me 20ish degrees of added warmth.
The closed cell foam pad makes a decent seat if you sit cross legged on it with it still bundled up. If you keep your knees at about the same height as your hips, it won't make your back sore, assuming your posture is good. I sit on an office chair a lot which does the same thing. I prefer it at the bottom of my pack. It's out of the way the way you do it, though. I take foam with a cheap r2 air mattress to go on top.
Looking forward to watching your upcoming Colorado trip. Perhaps you will get to build a snowman...lol Want to say thank you for your gear video. It really helped me make the decision to buy the sea to summit thermolite Extreme fleece sleeping bag liner. I believe it will work nicely with my 15 degree down sleeping bag. Have fun and stay safe.
I wear Eddie Bauer pants for summer trips. Light weight comfortable. In the fall, winter, spring I have really liked the Kuiu attack pants. They are comfortable and durable.
I was actually hoping to see you pack it all in the bag. I feel like I don’t pack any more but always end up with something hanging off my 65L Gregory Zulu. Definitely interested to hear you experience with the pack.
I’ve been using a quilt 0° with a synthetic quilt over the top and a bivy bag. Has served me VERY well but now I might buy the polar ranger or a western mountaineering bag
I’m very interested to see how the pack works out for you. That said, I’m waiting for the day when SOMEONE comes up with a pack that has a designated compartment for a bear canister! I think I could design one!!! Just about everyone carries one these days, and a lot of places require them, so what’s wrong with this picture? A designated compartment just above the hip belt?
The Shadowlight 60 and 45 have been solid packs for me, although I don't have tons of experience with them. And you might have to make a pack that scratches that itch!
Just so you know, while mars bars, oh henry, and pretty much any candy bar containing caramel become unchewable under freezing conditions, Snickers become brittle and crunchy and can be eaten frozen. You're welcome ;)
can you suggest other stuff other than wool clothing I am allergic to wool, just a beginner packer and learning before I head out summer and fall , not so much winter in mind.
It's not hard to ADD down to a jacket/bag/etc. You can get replacement down online or just get a cheap/old jacket, a vaccum. I just sew AND patch afterward (don't forget to seal the seams).
@eric_hanson no kidding, I work at an outdoor supply company if you wanna hit the mountains together I’d be more than happy to man. We’re also building g an Ice Climbing wall in the shop backyard
I like the boots and the high top snow blocking philosophy. No gaiters? I have a pair that were well missed in deep snow when I forgot to pack them once. I do sweat a bit in that zone but the dry feet are worth it.
I just bought the reactor extreme liner today to do the same thing with my sleeping bag - thing is I have a warmer sleeping bag but my daughter is using that one for our upcoming spring but alpine tramp/wild camp here in New Zealand :)
I definitely do for winter camping. And yes, they make a huge difference. But I wasn't anticipating snow on the ground quite yet. But even with no snow they'll make you warmer!
Hey well yeah probably because it very expensive…all of these youtubers keep saying you don’t need expensive gear for whatever,photography,trekking,running whatever…yet they always show the most expensive stuff
As a side sleeper I have struggled finding a pillow that works for me (Aeros UL, Aeros Premium, OV Ultralight, Trekology Aluft 2.0, Nemo Fillo). How does the Aeros Down pillow compare to the others?
Out of all those I prefer the Aeros Down pillow. For side sleepers I'd look into the Zenbivy pillow. It's a combo inflatable bladder with a down topper and is "taller" so if you're on your side your head is higher and at a better angle. At least that's been my expereince.
This is awesome! Thank you for the vid. Not gonna lie I’m a little scared of cold temp camping since I’m so new. This is helpful. May still give it some seasons before I give it a shot tho Have you tested the REI Flash 55 pack?
Glad to hear this is helpful! If you're thinking about doing some cold camping, start with something mild and manageable and just keep practicing. It's amazing how just a few experiences can get you feeling quite competent. And nope, I haven't used the REI Flash. Seems like a solid option though.
.. Just keep winter cold outings as car camping so you can take along heavier gear and even include a hot tent with wood stove .. Different than backpacking but a whole new type of fun ,, and generally never crowded even in popular places ... Backpacking is still an option ,, just look into using a Pulk sled to haul your gear ,, along with snowshoes opens another season of outdoor fun ...
I can't really tell but it looks like the OutdoorVitals backpack has a center divider on the outer mesh. Is it actually divided into left and right sections? I hope not because that would greatly reduce the available volume. Usually I want to throw my jacket or sweater in that area when I get too hot. Also I'm not a fan of shoulderstraps with no water bottle pocket, or those back foam inserts. Probably I would never buy or use a pack like that, some major differences in design compared with my preferences.
@@eric_hanson i will look at those options for next springs new bag. I have a Gossamer Gear Mariposa. I love the fit, but for some unknown reason they make the opening at the top of the bag smaller than the overall body diameter. It makes it a pain to pack and unpack. If they made the opening bigger it would be a great pack.
... Pack for success .... lose the Sawyer mini ,, if staying with Sawyer stay with the squeeze ...... with the footwear include a pair of Gaiters ... if you have snow conditions , they are indispensable in keeping feet dry ..... planning high altitude ,, change to a liquid stove ,, altitude and cold play havoc with canister stoves ... Of course , only my suggestions ... from experience .. But have a great time ,, will be watching ..
I'm curious about your experience with cold conditions and that Zenbivy pad. Ive used the Therarest Xtherm for cold season use in the past. I bought the Zenbivy UL pad this year, but haven't used it in temps below ~35F yet, so I'm not sure how it will perform in fall-winter. It is, however, much more comfortable than the Xtherm, so I'm hoping I can use it in the cold. I live in Washington State, and would be using it at mid-high elevation in the Cascades, expecting temps around High teens to twenties, but possibly as low as single digits, and sleeping on deep snow. Our snowpack tends to be dense and wet, which makes it pull heat more than a dryer snowpack. I doubt the pad is warm enough for deep winter use, but I wonder how late in the year I can get away with it.
I have used the Zenbivy UL mattress down to 19F paired with the 10F UL quilt. That was about as cold as I'd take the combo. But I think if you had a sleeping bag the mattress could go down a little colder. You do need to inflate it AAAALLLL the way to get it to it's full R value I think. For really cold trips I'm definitely taking the Nemo Tensor Extreme.
I need a suggestion for a really good thick pillow. I've found that if I don't have good neck support it kills my whole body. Don't have a lot to spend either. Thanks!
Super interesting to see your gear. I just returned from the same type of 4-5 day trip into the Wind River Range. I also took my Shadowlight 60L, generally reserved for my bigger load outs. I did add my black diamond micro spikes just in case the trail got icy or slick. I tried a Tarptent Rainbow Li 1P and an extra DCF 8X10 tarp for extra cover during thunderstorms. I stuck with the Zen Bivy 10F UL quilt and Nemo Tensor XC pad. My clothing system and layers were similar to yours and I stayed really warm. I feel as though I may have outgrown the OV Shadowlight and would really love to get something a bit more water proof or resistant. My 40 and 55 L packs just don't hold the bulkier winter sleep system and clothing, so I'm on the hunt for a lightweight winter pack.....HMG 70L? or ?? Anyway, great video. I look forward to seeing the actual trip vid.
I haven't used it but my buddy Dan Becker swears by the Zpacks Arc Haul 70. I'm considering that one for the extra capacity especially with my camera gear.
Eric, reach out for a collab with Nikki Delventhal. Shes just getting the backpack bug and is testing out gear. She would be PERFECT as she has very little bp experience but willing to learn with a smile😊 also she has a large following which doesn't hurt either 😂
That’s a solid amount of mileage, have yet to use my 45 on a trip longer than just an overnighter. Curious to see how it does it in a month or two on a colder weather trip where the heavier sleeping quilt or sleeping bag/along with the extra clothes the weather will most likely require
Hey Eric! I am searching through your videos for your attached camera bag that you wear on your chest strap sometimes, but can’t find it! What do you like? I have been using my peak design clip for years but find that on my lighter weight day pack, the weight of the camera pulls down on my shoulder strap and gives me neck tension, so I’m searching for an alternative way to carry my canon DSLR. Thanks in advance!!
You should make a top 5 camp chair video, btw o was VERY upset when i went to order another appalachian gear hoodie i have a hoodie, a summer ss shirt, bed liner and a hat all favorite wish the company would have reached out for help dont know where to look for alpaca pieces now
Hey Eric! Great video as always really enjoy following youre channel great content! I was wondering if you have a tip i have de old model of the sea to summit sleeping bag on this video and i have some problem with it lumps alot and have a hard time keeping it fluffy just a note this is my first down sleeping bag 😊
hmmm. It's probable you need to give a wash. Old gear does require some maintenance to keep them performing like new! If you do wash it make sure you use specific soap for sleeping bags, use a washing machine without the center post, and dry it on LOW heat with a couple tennis balls to bounce around and break up the down clumps.
Great video on cold weather camping. I'm working on a product that will assure things like your water filter, phone, charge brick, etc. do not freeze should temps in the tent fall below freezing w/out having to jam them into your mummy sleeping bag (hate that). Would love the opportunity to chat with you on whether you think this is a viable product that folks would find valuable during the winter months. Not sure the best way to contact you... Am building the prototype right now and expect to have a functional product by the end of the year.
A 15 degree bag, a liner, and two pads? How cold do you expect it to get in the fall? I use only my 35 deg. bag and my Nemo insulated tensor (or just one foam pad if in the hammock) in the fall, and am worried I'll be too warm. I switch to my 20 deg bag and a SOL bivy sack in the winter (2 foam pads in the hammock). And 3 layers for legs? Just thin cargo pants for me, with a rain pants if it gets really cold/windy. Long johns (well. polyester pajama pants) just for sleeping. And yeah, I'm in Washington. Are you a cold sleeper? Do you have circulation problems? Edit: Oh. 14K foot in Co. Never mind. lol Definitely agree on the "treat" concept. And Justin's PB cups are great! Dried apricots are great for the fruit snacks because they are high in Potassium. No Spam or dehydrated mashed potatoes?
Can somebody please explain to me why they are buying Nemo tents? They are more expensive than their DCF counterparts from other brands and they are even more heavy. What is the deal? Wire people into these products
They make some of the lightest traditional tents, freestanding and semi-freestanding. DCF trekking pole tents will be lighter, but a freestanding tent has some perks when you anticipate a location that’ll be hard to stake or very small tent sites. Some folks like that Nemo uses a fly fabric that doesn’t stretch compared to the sil nylon of big Agnes and other big name traditional brands.
Seconding the freestanding tent comment. There are some people who just simply don't want or don't like non-freestanding tents or DCF material. And most non-freestanding tents I see don't allow for stargazing without the fly on the same way a freestanding tent will. There is also the aspect that Nemo makes double wall tents, which is a priority for some backpackers. Not to mention Nemo has a pretty great warranty and strong claims for their commitment to lowering their environmental impact as a company. I also feel like Nemo tents have the edge with the amount of internal storage pockets you get for the weight. All in all, it comes down to preference. Personally I wouldn't consider a DCF tent unless I committed to something like a thru hike or moved to an area with very wet conditions. And I own a gently used Nemo Dagger tent and love it to pieces.
I’ve always paired an air mattress with a closed cell pad like that. It’s totally worth the weight for pad insurance and protection and extra warmth and comfort.
Combo for the win!
@@eric_hanson boney hips like that secondary Cush
Definitely! I love being able to lay outside on my air mattress with the protection of the closed cell. Just plop down and enjoy being out in the nice weather.
After deciding this year at to get back in to backpacking after over two decades away just got back a gorgeous two night trip in the Olympic National Park coastal wilderness, thanks for being one of the channels that has helped me feel more confident and prepared as I get back in to this hobby!
Woohoo! Nice work! So glad I could play a role for you. Enjoy!
Always love to see your load-out!
Can’t wait to see your video about this hike. To me, 3-10 day hiking trips are actual backpacking. You literally have to bring everything you need. Being in New England, the Whites in the fall are amazing, but weather is always a concern. Great video and good luck on your hike.
Thanks! Fall backpacking is pretty glorious but it can turn on you!
Chef's kiss for the search suggestions in the sponsorin part of the video. I have been wondering how you got so cool.
apparently it's a very popular search prompt.
I appreciate your commentary!!! And the coffee notes are well taken. Coffee is a struggle for me for sure!
You can even go into winter with 3 season gear by layering sleeping bags as well. As long as you're not constricted and not compressing the insulation, you can stay nice and toasty 😊 and if you bring the dog and can fit the dog in the sleeping bag with you, even better! 👍 😁
I have definitely done the sleeping bag + quilt combo and have gotten much more comfortable sleep on really cold trips that way. Definitely helpful to have a cuddle buddy too!
Try zenbivy 40 synthetic plus sheet and nemo 15 riff combo. It's a little extra weight, but pure bliss sleeping experience
@@eric_hansonplease do a video on how to properly use 2 quilts/quilt & sleeping bag combo. I’ve watched a few videos on the topic and there’s a good chunk of conflicting information out there… Curious to see what you find best in your experience!
@@eric_hanson Where in Colorado? if its September 24th - October 5th the weather here in Colorado is great, no rain, clear skies, 70s high, 40s low. Honestly the best weather we've had all summer. only things i'm changing the next few weeks is using my 20 degree quilt instead of the 40, mittens, and maybe melly instead of senchi.
There is a "bubble wrap insulation" here in the UK it's called Alreflex 2L2, it's a housing insulation but it is very light so I have a piece of it just over 6 foot long and 30 inches wide, it rolls up extremely small (much smaller than my Thermarest foam mat) and weighs practically nothing but it is incredibly well insulating and is great for underneath my air mattress, one added bonus is that surprisingly (to look at it) it is incredibly fire resistant as well.
In Canada we call it Refectix. And I use it for summer insulation in my hammock.
@mikeb5664 it's similar but not the same
“How did Eric Hanson got so cool” Well done Eric, smooth 😂
haha good eye!
Thank you so much for this video
Miranda’s shot resting reminded me of y’all’s trip and how much LMNT helps her as well with hiking. ❤❤ great video 👍🏽
That was a crazy trip and yup, having LMNT made a huuuge difference!
The edit during the Buff neck gaiter talk made me chuckle. I'm so excited is finally fall! I'm not a heat person, so hiking/backpacking in the fall is ideal for me
ha! Thank you. You're season is here!
Excellent video as usual!
I’m with you on this, definately prefer cold over hot humid hiking.
Each season has it's perks!
You should look into US surplus base layers. I know from experience while deployed to Afghanistan in the mountains it would get extremely cold and these base layers work! We had all kinds of gear!
That's a great idea! Thanks!
The reactor liner is great. I also combine a big agnes farrington with my 10 degree zenbivvy to increase the comfort rating when it gets colder. The farrington is also a great summer bag when you only want a light cover.
Nice! Adding quilts and bags together is a great way to avoid buying a true winter sleeping bag.
Great video Eric! I just got back from Colorado. Amazing! Looking forward to that one! Love the end with the out-takes.
Love that UCO spork! Just ordered one thanks.
Hey good luck man! Hope it’s a great trip!
Love the MGO cameo! lol 👍
I am totally backing you up on the backpack (I have the 48ltrs version and I have been quite happy with it in the italian alps), the mummy bag and the hiking boots. Winter alpine territory is something very very different
Good shoulder season info!, love my wool/paka stuff! TY
Thanks Eric, very helpful video, just in time for this wet and cold weather rolling in fast in Canada. Would love to see you do a video in BC in the future!
On the liner added to sleep system note I found similar warmth increase but swapping for my bivvy bag I use in summer when sans tent. In shoulder season and winter it adds extra redundancy for if tent fails and helps keep wind off that gets through my tent when conditions are moderate wind (usually durston xmid 2 solid). Especially handy in UK hills I spend most time as conditions usually very wet but warmer than alpine at close to but not quite freezing which I find sucks more than dry much colder alpine which I enjoy. Saved me in 7 hour storm was caught in earlier this week and I use it as a sleep system and secondary items dry bag inside my packs with smaller one for emergency dry clothes.
Thank you for listing all the items you reviewed! Great info
You should try using a USGI poncho liner also known as a woobie blanket inside a sleeping bag. Woobie blankets supposed to have a stand alone rating to about 60 or 50 degrees Fahrenheit and weigh a little over a pound.
I use my Zenbivy systems for all year round.The way I do this is I have a 10 degree extra large ultralight quilt for the shoulder months. I have a synthetic light bed 40 degree quilt. I have the quilt liner that they sell. I also have a fleece liner that I got from Amazon for 20 bucks. In the summer months, I use the synthetic quilt convertible with the rest of the Zen bivy sheet system. In the shoulder months, I use my ultra lite 10° down quilt. In the winter months, I use the sleep system with the ultra lite 10° down on the sheet system and on the inside I have my synthetic convertible quilt set up like a blanket under my down quilt. With the quilt liner between the down and the synthetic. That allows for me to have a comfort value of -5 Fahrenheit and the limit value of -25. If I choose to have the fleece for a potential of anything below -5. Or on the very hot summers the fleece works well as a blanket. I live in the Rocky mountains of Wyoming.
It's getting close to hot tent season out here in Ontario. woo hoo!
Blackout coffee has a new instant that is the best I have ever tried.
OOOH nice! I will check that out.
-Coffee fiend
I was waiting for Miranda's double thumbs up at 9:17!
Take care on your trip, there's a cold front going thru. Colorado Rockies are getting their first snow of the season.
ha! you know your stuff! I should've gone double thumbs!
thank you
Love my Shadowlight. I used it on my Colorado Trail hike when it first came out.
I do think it's a really solid pack, especially at the price.
Black Diamond jacket you're paying a premium for the brand name. Better options out there. And would not use a sun hoody as a base layer - mesh will be better and warmer and handle sweat better.
They sent me this jacket for testing purposes. For overall warmth I was a little underwhelmed, so yeah there are other options I prefer. It's crazy light. But won't be my go to for cold trips.
Butter, olive oil and sausage bring a lot of fat to the table when it's cool enough.
That, and I pair one of my summer synthetic top quilts to go over my 3-season quilt to give me 20ish degrees of added warmth.
The closed cell foam pad makes a decent seat if you sit cross legged on it with it still bundled up. If you keep your knees at about the same height as your hips, it won't make your back sore, assuming your posture is good. I sit on an office chair a lot which does the same thing. I prefer it at the bottom of my pack. It's out of the way the way you do it, though. I take foam with a cheap r2 air mattress to go on top.
I'd much rather have packed the pad on the bottom but the OV Shadowlight doesn't have straps on the bottom. But yeah, it's a good seat too!
Your Epic Trails shows on PBS are pretty good.👍
Looking forward to watching your upcoming Colorado trip. Perhaps you will get to build a snowman...lol
Want to say thank you for your gear video. It really helped me make the decision to buy the sea to summit thermolite Extreme fleece sleeping bag liner. I believe it will work nicely with my 15 degree down sleeping bag.
Have fun and stay safe.
Thank you! I'm not sure if there's snowman level snow yet! Good call on the liner, enjoy!
I wear Eddie Bauer pants for summer trips. Light weight comfortable. In the fall, winter, spring I have really liked the Kuiu attack pants. They are comfortable and durable.
Nice! I haven't used those but I've heard good things.
One thing for sure is, that you could not have picked more expensive equipment.
I was actually hoping to see you pack it all in the bag. I feel like I don’t pack any more but always end up with something hanging off my 65L Gregory Zulu. Definitely interested to hear you experience with the pack.
Sorry, I guess I could've included the actual packing into the pack. So far I really like the Shadowlight, solid pack!
I’ve been using a quilt 0° with a synthetic quilt over the top and a bivy bag. Has served me VERY well but now I might buy the polar ranger or a western mountaineering bag
I'm not familiar with the Polar Ranger but Western Mountaineering are very well respected bags.
Hi super fast question! Do you still use the geopress? What are your current thoughts on it currently?
I love Justin's dark chocolate peanut butter cups. They put all the regular ones to shame.
Indeed. I mean, are the other guys even trying?!
I’m so sad Appalachian gear co went out of business. I have one of their wool liners that I use in the colder seasons and it’s amazing!
I’m very interested to see how the pack works out for you. That said, I’m waiting for the day when SOMEONE comes up with a pack that has a designated compartment for a bear canister! I think I could design one!!! Just about everyone carries one these days, and a lot of places require them, so what’s wrong with this picture? A designated compartment just above the hip belt?
almost nobody outside of the USA uses bear canisters
I took some 3/4" d rings and some gorilla tape and attached them to my bear canister. I have a tie off point now
Already done. Nunatak makes the Bear Ears.
The Shadowlight 60 and 45 have been solid packs for me, although I don't have tons of experience with them. And you might have to make a pack that scratches that itch!
Only used in the WESTERN Unites States. No one on the east coast uses them. @toon6476
Just so you know, while mars bars, oh henry, and pretty much any candy bar containing caramel become unchewable under freezing conditions, Snickers become brittle and crunchy and can be eaten frozen. You're welcome ;)
Ya don't say.... Thanks for that gem
great real talk man :)
can you suggest other stuff other than wool clothing I am allergic to wool, just a beginner packer and learning before I head out summer and fall , not so much winter in mind.
It's not hard to ADD down to a jacket/bag/etc. You can get replacement down online or just get a cheap/old jacket, a vaccum. I just sew AND patch afterward (don't forget to seal the seams).
Wanna come up to Alberta this year and really test some winter gear with me 😌
There is a chance I'll be up that way!
@eric_hanson no kidding, I work at an outdoor supply company if you wanna hit the mountains together I’d be more than happy to man. We’re also building g an Ice Climbing wall in the shop backyard
To fix your water bag use a dab if "Storm Sure" solution, its truly amazing stuff. A patch will always fail in the end.
I ended up using Seam Seal, not sure how long it will last. Thanks for the recommendation!
@@eric_hanson .. If that leak returns ,, CNOC has come out with a new thicker material for their bladders ...
I like the boots and the high top snow blocking philosophy. No gaiters? I have a pair that were well missed in deep snow when I forgot to pack them once. I do sweat a bit in that zone but the dry feet are worth it.
I just bought the reactor extreme liner today to do the same thing with my sleeping bag - thing is I have a warmer sleeping bag but my daughter is using that one for our upcoming spring but alpine tramp/wild camp here in New Zealand :)
... Tell daughter to get a job ,, she has to buy her own gear ....lol ,,just kidding ..
@@rockytopwrangler2069 lol maybe when she’s older than 10 haha
No snow gaiters?
Do you keep your food near your tent in winter or do you still hand food away from camp? Thanks
depends on the location. It's still a good idea to keep food away from your tent but if bears are hibernating you're mostly concerned with rodents.
I got the NU33. but I also bring NU25 for backups.
Not bringing any gaiters?
I definitely do for winter camping. And yes, they make a huge difference. But I wasn't anticipating snow on the ground quite yet. But even with no snow they'll make you warmer!
@@eric_hanson 14000 ft up and no snow? Awesome! Have fun on your trip, hope you’ll share some views 😁
The common theme to this video is that everything is "very expensive".
Hey well yeah probably because it very expensive…all of these youtubers keep saying you don’t need expensive gear for whatever,photography,trekking,running whatever…yet they always show the most expensive stuff
What temperature range are you expecting?
As a side sleeper I have struggled finding a pillow that works for me (Aeros UL, Aeros Premium, OV Ultralight, Trekology Aluft 2.0, Nemo Fillo). How does the Aeros Down pillow compare to the others?
Out of all those I prefer the Aeros Down pillow. For side sleepers I'd look into the Zenbivy pillow. It's a combo inflatable bladder with a down topper and is "taller" so if you're on your side your head is higher and at a better angle. At least that's been my expereince.
This is awesome! Thank you for the vid. Not gonna lie I’m a little scared of cold temp camping since I’m so new. This is helpful. May still give it some seasons before I give it a shot tho
Have you tested the REI Flash 55 pack?
Glad to hear this is helpful! If you're thinking about doing some cold camping, start with something mild and manageable and just keep practicing. It's amazing how just a few experiences can get you feeling quite competent. And nope, I haven't used the REI Flash. Seems like a solid option though.
.. Just keep winter cold outings as car camping so you can take along heavier gear and even include a hot tent with wood stove .. Different than backpacking but a whole new type of fun ,, and generally never crowded even in popular places ... Backpacking is still an option ,, just look into using a Pulk sled to haul your gear ,, along with snowshoes opens another season of outdoor fun ...
I can't really tell but it looks like the OutdoorVitals backpack has a center divider on the outer mesh. Is it actually divided into left and right sections? I hope not because that would greatly reduce the available volume. Usually I want to throw my jacket or sweater in that area when I get too hot. Also I'm not a fan of shoulderstraps with no water bottle pocket, or those back foam inserts.
Probably I would never buy or use a pack like that, some major differences in design compared with my preferences.
I've watched you carry an assortment of ultralight backbacks of different brands. Which ones would you say were actually comfortable to carry?
I really like the OV Shadowlight and CS40, as well as the Kakwa 55. Those have been great.
@@eric_hanson i will look at those options for next springs new bag. I have a Gossamer Gear Mariposa. I love the fit, but for some unknown reason they make the opening at the top of the bag smaller than the overall body diameter. It makes it a pain to pack and unpack. If they made the opening bigger it would be a great pack.
... Pack for success .... lose the Sawyer mini ,, if staying with Sawyer stay with the squeeze ...... with the footwear include a pair of Gaiters ... if you have snow conditions , they are indispensable in keeping feet dry ..... planning high altitude ,, change to a liquid stove ,, altitude and cold play havoc with canister stoves ... Of course , only my suggestions ... from experience .. But have a great time ,, will be watching ..
Try swift instant coffee. Best in the biz in my opinion, actual single origins available and made in PA.
Will do! Always on the lookout for good coffee!
Cut a couple sections off the foam mat it will be thinner folded up.
Where in Colorado? if its September 24th - October 5th the weather is great, no rain, clear skies, 70s high, 40s low.
Hot water bottles wrapped into aluminium foil. Great way to add warmth as long as you're near a water source.
I haven't tried aluminum foil. That's cool.
@@eric_hanson .. put hot water bottle in your blue sky pouch ..
NU 25 never fails
Definitely check out Cusa Coffee and Tea. Their instant coffee is WAY better than most.
Thank you I will!
I'm curious about your experience with cold conditions and that Zenbivy pad. Ive used the Therarest Xtherm for cold season use in the past. I bought the Zenbivy UL pad this year, but haven't used it in temps below ~35F yet, so I'm not sure how it will perform in fall-winter. It is, however, much more comfortable than the Xtherm, so I'm hoping I can use it in the cold.
I live in Washington State, and would be using it at mid-high elevation in the Cascades, expecting temps around High teens to twenties, but possibly as low as single digits, and sleeping on deep snow. Our snowpack tends to be dense and wet, which makes it pull heat more than a dryer snowpack. I doubt the pad is warm enough for deep winter use, but I wonder how late in the year I can get away with it.
I have used the Zenbivy UL mattress down to 19F paired with the 10F UL quilt. That was about as cold as I'd take the combo. But I think if you had a sleeping bag the mattress could go down a little colder. You do need to inflate it AAAALLLL the way to get it to it's full R value I think. For really cold trips I'm definitely taking the Nemo Tensor Extreme.
Another great vid.
Would love to try that coffee but amazon doesn't let me :(
Oh dang! I had no idea Appalachian Gear Company went out of business. I was going to get a gaiter and another hat this fall.
I'm definitely sad about it! I liked them.
@@eric_hansonI never got to buy one of their ponchos! I was gonna be Clint Eastwood on the trail
I need a suggestion for a really good thick pillow. I've found that if I don't have good neck support it kills my whole body. Don't have a lot to spend either. Thanks!
Take a shot whenever Eric says "very expensive"
Expensive gear trip but that’s what you have to have to be comfortable.
I just got the dragonfly osmo 2p tent. Love it. Except the brow pole snapped on the 4th pitch… My boogie piece of kit has me disappointed.
👍🐿👍 awesome insight brother.
Super interesting to see your gear. I just returned from the same type of 4-5 day trip into the Wind River Range. I also took my Shadowlight 60L, generally reserved for my bigger load outs. I did add my black diamond micro spikes just in case the trail got icy or slick. I tried a Tarptent Rainbow Li 1P and an extra DCF 8X10 tarp for extra cover during thunderstorms. I stuck with the Zen Bivy 10F UL quilt and Nemo Tensor XC pad. My clothing system and layers were similar to yours and I stayed really warm. I feel as though I may have outgrown the OV Shadowlight and would really love to get something a bit more water proof or resistant. My 40 and 55 L packs just don't hold the bulkier winter sleep system and clothing, so I'm on the hunt for a lightweight winter pack.....HMG 70L? or ?? Anyway, great video. I look forward to seeing the actual trip vid.
I haven't used it but my buddy Dan Becker swears by the Zpacks Arc Haul 70. I'm considering that one for the extra capacity especially with my camera gear.
Eric, reach out for a collab with Nikki Delventhal. Shes just getting the backpack bug and is testing out gear. She would be PERFECT as she has very little bp experience but willing to learn with a smile😊 also she has a large following which doesn't hurt either 😂
I used the shadowlight on 500 miles of the appalachian trail, it was fantastic the only complaint was the hip belt was to big. But that was my fault
That’s a solid amount of mileage, have yet to use my 45 on a trip longer than just an overnighter. Curious to see how it does it in a month or two on a colder weather trip where the heavier sleeping quilt or sleeping bag/along with the extra clothes the weather will most likely require
@R3ALDUBB3DD3R3K I've had mine loaded to about 50 lbs on a 2 nighter and it handled it
@@wcamericanmade9828 woahhh that’s pretty nuts no idea it could carry that much weight, most I’ve put is maybe 30-35lbs in it
@R3ALDUBB3DD3R3K I wanted to test the limits of the bag, it definitely didn't carry as comfortably but it handled the weight
Hey Eric! I am searching through your videos for your attached camera bag that you wear on your chest strap sometimes, but can’t find it! What do you like? I have been using my peak design clip for years but find that on my lighter weight day pack, the weight of the camera pulls down on my shoulder strap and gives me neck tension, so I’m searching for an alternative way to carry my canon DSLR. Thanks in advance!!
I've been using the Hyperlite Camera Pod. I'm a big fan of it. Link should be in the description in these videos somewhere.
@@eric_hanson awesome, thanks! I'm familiar with that one - I can find it! I appreciate the reply!
Wait did you just go to Sprouts in Denver today?
haha nope!
You should make a top 5 camp chair video, btw o was VERY upset when i went to order another appalachian gear hoodie i have a hoodie, a summer ss shirt, bed liner and a hat all favorite wish the company would have reached out for help dont know where to look for alpaca pieces now
.. How about Alpaka ,, or Alpaka Gear or Alpacagear ... for a few sources ..
you should check if the patch of your water bag has harmful chemicals. i think it's for tent or jacket only
I did take it off and patched it with Seam Seal. Not sure if that's going to be any better but it's held up so far.
Hey Eric!
Great video as always really enjoy following youre channel great content!
I was wondering if you have a tip i have de old model of the sea to summit sleeping bag on this video and i have some problem with it lumps alot and have a hard time keeping it fluffy just a note this is my first down sleeping bag 😊
hmmm. It's probable you need to give a wash. Old gear does require some maintenance to keep them performing like new! If you do wash it make sure you use specific soap for sleeping bags, use a washing machine without the center post, and dry it on LOW heat with a couple tennis balls to bounce around and break up the down clumps.
@@eric_hanson Thank you so much for the answer should there be any waterproofing in this to or does that come with the sleeping bag soap?
Bring oil for energy. I have a small bottle and squirt a few spoons of oil with hot water inside my meals.
Oil is energy dense!
Great video on cold weather camping. I'm working on a product that will assure things like your water filter, phone, charge brick, etc. do not freeze should temps in the tent fall below freezing w/out having to jam them into your mummy sleeping bag (hate that). Would love the opportunity to chat with you on whether you think this is a viable product that folks would find valuable during the winter months. Not sure the best way to contact you... Am building the prototype right now and expect to have a functional product by the end of the year.
😂 those google searches
When you use a hammock you always have a chair ;)
Appalachian gear company gone? NOOOOO. Man their Alpaca hoodie was my favorite piece of gear hands down!
I love those hoodies. I'm gonna pour one out for them.
A 15 degree bag, a liner, and two pads? How cold do you expect it to get in the fall? I use only my 35 deg. bag and my Nemo insulated tensor (or just one foam pad if in the hammock) in the fall, and am worried I'll be too warm. I switch to my 20 deg bag and a SOL bivy sack in the winter (2 foam pads in the hammock). And 3 layers for legs? Just thin cargo pants for me, with a rain pants if it gets really cold/windy. Long johns (well. polyester pajama pants) just for sleeping. And yeah, I'm in Washington. Are you a cold sleeper? Do you have circulation problems? Edit: Oh. 14K foot in Co. Never mind. lol
Definitely agree on the "treat" concept. And Justin's PB cups are great!
Dried apricots are great for the fruit snacks because they are high in Potassium.
No Spam or dehydrated mashed potatoes?
There is another company that does make an alpaca hoodie
I can’t find my ursack man😫I looked everywhere
.. I think the bear took it on your last outing ..
Ther 14000+ foot peaks are called 14er's so that you're aware.
What size UrSack is that?
What happens when I fall in a river? That's what I pack for.
.. inflatable raft ..
@@rockytopwrangler2069 Just a dry set of clothes and I leave my gore-tex at home 'cause it's useless when I slip and fall in a river:)
Can somebody please explain to me why they are buying Nemo tents? They are more expensive than their DCF counterparts from other brands and they are even more heavy. What is the deal? Wire people into these products
They make some of the lightest traditional tents, freestanding and semi-freestanding. DCF trekking pole tents will be lighter, but a freestanding tent has some perks when you anticipate a location that’ll be hard to stake or very small tent sites.
Some folks like that Nemo uses a fly fabric that doesn’t stretch compared to the sil nylon of big Agnes and other big name traditional brands.
@@boredandagitated but there are a number of freestanding DCF tents that are lighter than anything. Nemo has to offer.
Seconding the freestanding tent comment. There are some people who just simply don't want or don't like non-freestanding tents or DCF material. And most non-freestanding tents I see don't allow for stargazing without the fly on the same way a freestanding tent will. There is also the aspect that Nemo makes double wall tents, which is a priority for some backpackers. Not to mention Nemo has a pretty great warranty and strong claims for their commitment to lowering their environmental impact as a company. I also feel like Nemo tents have the edge with the amount of internal storage pockets you get for the weight.
All in all, it comes down to preference. Personally I wouldn't consider a DCF tent unless I committed to something like a thru hike or moved to an area with very wet conditions. And I own a gently used Nemo Dagger tent and love it to pieces.
@@kaimflyn yeah I get the appeal of a double wall tent, but I don’t understand how NEMO they can get to these prices with the materials are using
I always make sure to be light, warm, budget-friendly AND crueltyfree. Thus vegan. It's definitely possible without down and wool.
Liners are way over rated. A small fleece blanket weighs the same and is 10x warmer