2 Tricks for Keeping Fruit Trees Small (Do this right now!)
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
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Today we share how to festoon fruit trees and how to prune fruit trees to keep them small.
Summer solstice pruning keeps fruit trees small. Winter pruning is good for shape, but gives the trees more vigor - summer pruning reduces vigor.
If you prune fruit trees to keep them small, remember these tricks! It's all part of "backyard orchard culture," which makes Grocery Row Gardening possible.
Am I the only one who sees every cut branch as a potential new tree? Free plants for everyone!? It's like a plant hoarding/propagation disorder. All thanks to you, by the way. Appreciate the timing on this video.
Don't fruit tree cuttings only have a 2-5% propagation chance?? I think we might be way better off air layering them before pruning
Depends if you get new growth, usually in the spring, that will root on dwarf rooting stock!! Some varieties of fruit trees are easier than others!!
@kaythegardener what would you say the new growth cutting have a chance of rooting? 10%?? If it's that High or more it would be worth it
My exact thought.
It would be nice to be able to give saplings & unwanted house plants to those who need...(me)😢😢
I use rocks in a small mesh bag and tie it to the branches, to bend them. Works great and no strings.
I use water bottles filled with water. Easy to adjust the weight.
High wind could snap those off.
Ann Ralph’s book, “Grow a Little Fruit Tree” really is great. The technique was developed at Dave Wilson Nursery in Hickman, California. Following their advice, I planted 4 groups of fruit trees-4 Apples, 4 Nectarines, 4 Plums, & 4 Pears. I selected varieties for my climate, to effectively cross pollinate, and to ripen fruit in succession for a long season of harvest. Each group was planted just 18in apart in a square and shortened to knee height. I chose to plant the groups 10 ft apart. Each group was subsequently pruned as if they were a single tree-shaped in the winter and kept short by summer pruning to grow no higher than I can reach standing on the ground. This is a great way to fit many varieties in a residential lot and still get plenty of fruit. They can just as well be grown as espaliers or hedges.
I read Grow a Little Fruit Tree, and put a few little apple trees in our yard. Felt like a psycho cutting them back so small at first. Thought I might have ruined them, but they're growing just beautifully! Looking forward to some fruit in a few years.
Fancy seeing you folks here...
Me too. It's year 2 and I'm still not sure if I ruined them :D
it takes a few years for them to fruit and if your soil is missing nutrients then it will take longer..my oldest apple tree is over 15 yrs old and it just started making fruit this year but i had to put wood ash for 3 consecutive years around them...1x a yr only
Me too. My first tree about 3 years old looks amazing!
I’ve applied all practices I’ve learnt from stress training marijuana to all fruit trees I grow. Most plant just want to survive to produce offspring, they tough but some are really sensitive meh
I put in three rows in the grocery row style for this spring and i am absolutely sold on this system. Everything is thriving and more productive than anything else I've tried. Thank you for all the information, man!
Thank you
I'm gonna take a few "enemies" out back & compost them. Thanks for both the advice & encouragement 😉🤣🤗
Learning so much about pruning and I don't even have a garden of my own! 😢 Seriously though, I love how you don't just give the instructions but also explain why certain pruning and training methods are used. After your explanation for training branches to grow horizontally I realised that this was why espalier trees are trained that way. I honestly just thought that it was to keep them at a certain height or, to fit a certain space. I've (winter) pruned blackcurrant bushes in the past and would shove the cuttings directly into a patch of soil, to root and form new plants to give away. I pruned them to prevent crossing branches and to open them up and, used to cut just above an outward facing bud, to prevent new growth from growing inwards and undoing the benefits of my hard work! 😂
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I am glad you made this video. I began my orchard using your advice, I bought the book, the video helped a lot though. I am pruning everything in the morning.
Haven't seen one of your videos lately. My bad. Thanks for reminding me about fruit trees staying small. I have your book "Grocery Row" and I have a restricted planting space for the food forest spots and kitchen row area. My second year has been a very good harvest/s. I give so much away to my many friends and they love it. They tell me what recipe they made from the veggies. Gardening has brought much joy into my life thanks to my brother who started this craziness to begin with. hahaha THANK YOU and blessings to your family.
David I put water and zip sandwich bags and put them inside of the red onion bags and hang them off of my branches Using a piece of wire woven through the bag so it's not girdling to weight them down this way I can add more water if needed
@@paul.1337 But it's much easier to control the weight when you can just add a little water and I don't have a lot of rocks and I use chains on the fig tree
I planted fruit trees last year and was quite ruthless with the initial pruning as most of them were mail orders and you get what you get - some of them were great but some of them were very odd shapes, and I had to have faith that if I cut them back to nothing, they would come back again. I cut an apricot back to just the main trunk (I vaguely recall one of your videos doing similar with a peach). It looked terrible, a sad little stump, but ended up putting on great growth and in a good shape.
I had a couple of apples that start branching only 20 and 25cm from the ground. Again, you get what you get when you order things online! I was nervous putting them in because frankly they looked ridiculous and I found it hard to visualise how they could turn out okay. They looked like bonsai trees. But they've put on great growth and have fantastic shape to them so far, and should end being a good height.
I'm also giving a stepover apple a stab, for fun.
Another apple tree was mangled by parrots and had to be cut back to the trunk because they did so much ripping/chewing damage to every branch. I was gutted - I lost two years of growth and had to start over. It has come back in a much better shape than originally and is now the perfect height (I always felt it was slightly too tall), so it was a happy accident in the end. The parrots (and bats) are likely to be a problem every year, so being able to net them as shrubs is a lot less hassle then having full sized trees.
Some of my other stonefruit trees put on growth this year but I wasn't happy with them - so they have been cut back quite harshly again and told they need to do better this year. It's a step backwards but I really want to make sure they are a good shape from the beginning. (Neighbours planted a small orchard and haven't pruned at all, and their trees are a cluttered mess, I'm itching to get in there)
My cherry and pear have done exactly what I wanted, so they get a pat on the head and will only need minor tidying rather than correcting any major issues. I will revisit in our summer (I'm in Australia). Each tree gets individual attention like you've done in this video, sizing up what I want for each of them in terms of final size and how they will relate to other plants around them.
I really love shaping and training trees, I find it really satisfying. Love pruning and training videos! :)
I just pulled out my copy of Grow a Little Fuit Tree to review what I need to do since we're at the summer solstice time. Perfect timing for your video!
8:19 I like this idea of training trees into benches! This video is exciting. It’s like they’re bonsai trees sort of. I wonder if I could grow some trees in pots this way.
awesome. the idea of letting in light for more plants is an excellent point with packing in all the variety. i want something fruiting all year round. :)
Your chair pear tree reminds me of the circus trees in gilroy gardens (formerly Bonfonte gardens) in California. There were sycamores that were grafted together that looked like lattice too.
This is the kind of information that puts Davids teaching and advice a step above.
I planted many of his suggestions from his masterpiece.
"Create your own Florida food forest".
Along side his book "push the zone" with the info on protecting the tropical trees during the winter. Hes really helped me loose my fear of growing frute trees in my backyard.
Thank you for being diverse and precise with you information.
This is the format I’ll be using on the 8 trees I bought this year.
I took a cue from this video and went out and took four judicious cuts off the peach "bush" out there to keep it at 5 ft. I say bush because its a wild peach that had grown so tall I had it cut down to 3 feet. It was a bare trunk with a crack inside the trunk so I sadly thought it would die, but in spring there were lots of buds. Then some creature ate all the buds and I thought again it wouldn't make it, but lo and behold, it is a wonderfully thick bush!
Last winter,after reading David's article on festooning, I tried it on a full grown pear tree, with great results!
I had a ton for fruit this year, and it was easy to harvest.
Thanks David!
Where can I find that article?
In France in many regions hedges ARE fruit trees, and they are pruned with agricultural hedge trimmers, no fuss whatsoever ;)
Unfortunately it was neglected or even ripped up since the 2nd ww, but people are now more aware and replanting or rejuvenating ood hedges.
I'll be doing this today in Northern Alabama. I didn't know summer solstice is a good time to prune. Thank you for the awesome short videos :)
I just read your book "grocery row gardening" yesterday, such great stuff ❤
Thank you, Leah.
thx4 info David .. grocery row gardening 🙏💚🕊🤲
gee hate2 cut trees .. mature trees rare in gardens but block Sun...
.. what about braiding instead of cutting the3 pear branches growing together to make an natural branch arbor
.. Ur bend training branches seems like “Espalier”( intense training of plants urged to grow flat against a wall, fence, or trellis..
Thx4 inspiring many ideas w Grocery Row Gardening & helpful books 👑🍃⭐️
Branches rubbing together over time/windy conditions guarantees wounded bark/cambium/future disease.
similar to bonsai directional pruning. im letting our apple trees grow wild this year. extra hot summer and rodents in winter almost killed them all. lost one. going to replant with a cutting once its larger enough. thanks DTG
Great tip on keeping the fruit tree manageable. I wasn't sure about pruning mid-year, but that makes sense to limit and direct the energy of growth to be productive for the gardener's use. I have an established golden delicious apple tree that needs some taming. I'll be working on that.
Thank you David. I’m just about to prune my two year old subtropical food forest here in the Northern Rivers 🇦🇺 Australia for the first time and these tips were helpfully timely 💪🏻 🍐🥭🍒
G'day Weedy! GR8 to see you follow David's Channel as well. With David and yourself, you blokes are two of my "must see" channels on UA-cam! My other premium channels to watch are Huw Richards, Garden like a Viking, Keith at Canadian Perm. Legacy and The Millennial Gardener for an "engineers" perspective on home gardening! You all have a deep passion and commitment for your individual perspectives ..... and I ALWAYS gain positive education from each of your brilliant Channels! Continued great health and success to you "Weedy"! PS. Just watched your lovely post on planting Garlic cloves. One suggestion, to minimize the unintentional demise of your valuable compost worms .... try extracting them from your Soil Factory with a wide tined garden fork. I use one [with gr8 success] for MOST of my compost/soil extractions! 🍀💪😊
I'm a Weedy Garden fan myself 😊. Hello from Jamaica 🇯🇲
Having seen this in an older one of your videos, I used this same bending technique with a few of my trees. Amazing results! I had some heavy joined pipes from plumbing I changed out and used those, looked like very odd Christmas tree for a while but it worked! You da Man David the Good ❤😊
I would love to see photos.
So glad to see this type pruning again! Thank you. I know you have shown it before, I want to try it, such a cool idea! 😊
Thank you guys as usual always upliftitng and informative ❤ from Australia
Now the fruits will be easy to harvest. Great advice thanks David.
When I bend a branch I gently crack the fibers in the branch. I'll do this every couple of days until it wants to go that way. It helps if it's going toward the sun.
WOW!!! My book came today and I am thrilled to read it. I had so many vague questions on how to make a fruit tree grow low! Ann's writing style is delightful and I am also grateful that you mentioned the summer solstice pruning, so I am not too far off if I prioritize it tomorrow- June 25.
Thank you and happy to have supported your channel w the purchase.
Having remembered your advice on summer solstice pruning, I got out there and pruned my 4 trees. They've added some nice growth since then and look wonderful. I never knew about summer pruning and I'm really learning a lot from your videos. TY!
Festooning for oxen! Outstanding.
From OZ, The Festooning is called water shoots, and I use the fruit bags with some rocks in them tied to the branch to drop the branches as I low as I want, the lower I want the to go the more rocks I add more, but just make sure the branch doesnt snap.
Hi David, I guess you might better results by using a by-pass hand pruner. The cut will be neater, it will ill faster. Also, the cut should be above a bud that grows outwards in order to open the tree.
alternatively you could strip the bark where you want it cut and then surround it with some dirt in a bag and it will grow roots, then cut it off and plant a second little tree
EXTREME pruning! I like it. It's practical. Why isn't this seen everywhere?
Thanks for your advice! I used your method for keeping fruit trees short by cutting them to knee height when planting. Everything is growing well EXCEPT my Champagne loquat. It never put out branches and it tried to fruit off the main stem. I chopped it in spring when I planted it. Two years later, it hasn't grown an inch. I'll be replacing it soon.
We just met your friend Shawn very knowledgeable young man. We enjoyed his visit here. We talked about how much he looked up to you and even told me your mulberry story. Pretty cool to meet someone else's fan made me think what have I been missing. No time to catch up on videos so let's be brothers I here we are like minded believers. We are shooting a movie about a what if the exodus happened today on sukkots. We would like to invite you and your to come be part of the experience. Sept 30
What up David. Much love to the family. My garden exploded!
Thank you
That garden is gorgeous!
You always have great book recommendations. Thank you!
I am reading Ruth’s book; thanks for the tip!
Ah! My favorite David The Good song!
Thanks for good tricks regarding keeping fruit trees small
Plums are strong against hepatitis c. Mulberry has so many uses,like melatonin in the tips of leaf, one inch. It seems to have too what I call "cocoon" sleep. You may sleep very deeply and longer than usual, but when you wake up, you get to doing right away,not too much sleepy lag.
Here in Scotland 🏴 we grow these "New Whip Trees' as "Espalier Trained" Trees.
Bang in x2 upright Stakes either side, say x10ft apart. Add a Cross Rail (Nailed in) and then Tie those Branches in with Horticultural String, doing a figure of "8" Tie and Knot. The String doesn't cut into the Growth (that string decomposes over say a season of growth.) You Cut/Trim/Tie each new growing season. 👍
As those limbs thicken and mature, the Stakes can be removed.
Originally, in France, these "Espalier" were mainly trained up against x1000 Yard Brick Walled Gardens ! Who has that in their Homes these days. 🤭
You can't alas do it on your Home, as the Tree will not like the Gutter and Roof overhang, and your Home won't like any of those Tree Roots in your Foundations (!) So add 'Stakes' as a temporary 'Support' and when the Branches can hold their own weight, take out the stakes etc. Simples. 😏
You can even Espalier a Tree a bit like a Walking Cane, on its side. Aka the Tree Whip Grows tall but thin ! You then get that whip carefully turned onto its side, say x1Foot above Ground Level, then its bent (tied down) almost at a 90 degree angle (fine when still young and Green in growth.) To grow Horizontally forever ! OK, until it maybe meets its neighbour growing from the other way.
Again for a few Years a long Rail just above ground level is what you tie that low tree to.
Again once shaped, forever there. These Trees become like little 'Fruit Hurdles' that give Garden Grow Beds a Boundary Structure. Apples, Pears do can be used. Plum and Cherry not so good. They need 'Fan' Training, to aid and increase/ promote better volume of Fruiting. Also Stone Trees don't like hard repeated Pruning, especially in dormant times. These get pruned in the Summer months.
Unless in a Greenhouse* confining' their Sizes, is OK.
However, if your Climate is warm enough, Peaches, Nectarines can be grown on a Fan Structure too. They love 'Structure' in order to take the weight of their Fruit !
One time I grew a Peach* of nearly x10 Ounces in size. . . But it needed a Hammock (Net Bag) to support its weight ! 🙃
Boy was it good 'a Huge White Fleshed Peach with Pink Blush Skin. So juicey and Yummy. . .
Here : I grow my x3Ft Peaches (have x2 for Cross Pollination.) along the front of the Raised Bed either side of access Path, within my Greenhouse. (And the Tomatoes etc grow up big and bushy at the back area.)
Oh, and I have a Huge Purple Fig ! Its Root: Planted in the Foundation Wall (x1 Brick missing ! So its outside not !) But the Plant itself grows up within the Pointy end Gable, furthest away from the Door. It too Fruit like crazy in a Fan Shape. We don't have the Climate or the temperatures to grow a lot of things outside (or room on our Windowsills come Winter!)
So it has to 'Fit' the space we have got. 🤭
And having lots of Beehives in my front Garden (South Facing) takes up valuable space. More than they should !
With having surrounding Farm Land, all about, outwith my Cottage : All Trees, Plants and Shrubs are subjected to cross Winds etc.
So Structure/Shelter/Location are key !
Finally please don't fall over all those Strings and Wire Pegs. Get a Wood Structure up and maybe a Trellis too: and make those little Fruit Trees a "Feature". Hope this helps. 😎
Thanks David✨️ Learning so much from you!
Hi! Great video -- and I totally agree about keeping fruit trees small! However, I just bought a house with huge fruit and avocado trees. Any suggestions for how to cut them back after they are already mature?
Thanks for the show. Catch you on the next one. God Bless. NW ga.
Do you ever save the cut branches to propagate and make more trees?
Many thanks for the advice. I boughtthe book a couple of months ago and I have ordered a victoria plum and greengage tree. I will keep them small.
It's always great to be reminded to summer prune. I'm wondering though if this works for figs and loquats, too. I want to keep them small, but I'm worried that they won't fruit.
I got a branch of Mulberry tree as a gift this spring. I put it in a big pot (50 Gal). Now it grows to more than 6 feet tall. I cut a little at the top of each branch hope stop it from grow too tall and can give me some fruits next year. If you have Mulberry tree , can you make one on how to cut it, and how to take care of it? And thank you for introducing the book Grow a Little fruit tree. I will go buy and read it. Thanks!
Great work. I have written some on mulberries at thesurvivalgardener.com
Well I know what I'm going to do today! Thank you!
I just made a short about tying my seed loquats like this! Never knew the term for it... 🤔 But mine are still in pots until I find spots for them, so I poked holes in the pots and tied them through that way!
I mentioned you in my video, so I hope it works well for me~ 😅
Cheers!
And my favorite song at end. 😊 Thanks for tips.
Thank you this video was very helpful! I'm a subscriber now.
Welcome!
Good idea and Good Job.Thanks.
thanks. glad to find your channel. gathering info to put in fruit trees and berry patches. clearing in a forest, 8" topsoil and various color strata of sand below. water table was at 3 1/2-4 feet 3 years ago when I set fence posts. I'll have to water if there's no rain and its been bone dry about 90 percent of the time lately; so that water table is likely more at 9 feet. Some creeks and marches dont have standing water like usual and no flow. its atypical
David, this is just the lesson I need! I have many stone fruit trees that are the next generation. I plan on replanting them in the fall. But they are much too tall to handle by myself. Question is, should i prune the young trees now, then transplant them this fall. You' ll like what I found recently. A few years ago I planted an apple seedling in an herb garden raised box. I saw it 'dye' because of freezing temps. Or so I thought. It has new growth of leaves on the top. And Im leaving it where its at.
Apples actually REQUIRE A CHILL PERIOD TO FRUIT!
Thank you!! I picked up both your book and hers!
Thank you
does this work for elderberry and aronia as well? I already have berries on the aronia.
That was really interesting and helpful, I’m waiting my mulberry trees tomorrow. 🤓
Thanks David, that might come in handy.
Great info on pruning. I have limited space and can try this. Thanks
I would love to see an update!
Read the book and I advise the cheat notes as there’s a ton of superfluous material not very well told. Thanks for the video, top notch!
EXCELLENT Vid. Thanks David!
The deer prune my fruit trees, so I'm gonna prune the deer this fall.
same... bit off two main branches. (One is bent fully 90 and still grew leaves, going to let it grow see what it does.)
😂😂👍!
Thanks for the timely reminder to check into pruning fruiting trees and bushes. Since I have those in containers, it is much easier on the plants AND the gardener to get pruning and keep up that maintenance routine than to let the trees grow every which way, and do a drastic prune once a year.
How is Frankenpear coming along? Fruit yet?
Ordered both
This video was posted 11 months ago I would love to see it now
TY for reminding me about summer pruning. I had forgotten. My 4 little trees took no time.
Why didn't you snip the limbs that you bent down on that last tree?
9:00 so here was shazaming the song because i totally loved it 😃👌
Great tutorial. Thank you, I have learnt a lot!
A penny saved is a penny earned!!!
Awesome tutorial video 📹 👌 👍 👏
Espalier. Thats what I have been trying to perfect these past few years. Its an ancient technique.:)
Great video. Read "Grow A Little Fruit Tree" also and have applied to my small orchard. Thanks for the valuable information.
I love that book!! I need to read it again too. Thanks for the video and especially the information on the pears. I have a small pear tree that's trying to be a column. I know what to do now. Cheers!
Here are some techniques and reasons for having a small fruit tree, with titles and bullet points:
Why Have a Small Fruit Tree?
Takes up less space in yard
Easier to prune and harvest
Can fit more trees and varieties in small yard
Trees stay healthier when kept small
Planting a Small Tree
Buy young, thin tree no more than 5/8 inch diameter
Make dramatic pruning cut 2/3 up the sapling when planting
Creates low branches for easy care and harvest
Pruning for Size Control
Prune in summer near the summer solstice
Removes shoots that drive vertical growth
Redirects energy to fruiting branches within reach
Can prune by 1/2 to 2/3 to control vigor
Caring for a Small Tree
Needs full sun
Apply 2-3 inches mulch to conserve moisture
Water deeply but infrequently
Thin fruit so branches aren't overburdened
Harvest all fruit within reach
Benefits of Small Trees
Easy to prune, train, and care for
Abundant harvests of high quality fruit
Avoid tall ladders for picking and pruning
Fruit ripens more evenly with good air circulation
Fun to include more varieties in small space
I really needed to see this learning, thank you.
There's a third trick you can use: grow your trees in containers. By restricting the tree's roots in a container, you will also restrict the overall size of the tree, and it will also make them portable too.
As someone who planted a ton of baby fruit trees last autumn, this has been really helpful for me, especially the tying down of branches. But I'm wondering... if I want my trees to grow a little bit bigger (our initial food forest area is about three quarters of an acre, and we also need the shade they provide in our very hot Mediterranean summers). I like the idea of not having to climb too much to harvest, and I'm happy for the top parts to be eaten by wildlife, so I was thinking for the canopy to be just above head height. Should I still cut around this solstice time, just higher up, or should I cut them later?
They are still going to get that high in subsequent years, so pruning won't hurt.
Would you please do a walk through video of your gardens telling what plants are what? I just watched your video from a year ago called "A Farmer reacts to my grocery row.....". I would love to know what all the plants are. I am creating a food forest garden and still learning about some of the plants that aren't traditional garden plants.
That is a good idea.
I love your shirt, COMPOST YOUR ENEMIES! 😂
...sadly Oxens probably aren't allowed in our HOA here....🐮🤠 - Great video (new sub)!
FINELY I got free plants for everyone months later because I got it from the library and they had problems with it in the System because your name is literally David the good??? Anyway I will be reading it! I have already read compost everything and that was amazing I hope this is just as good!
Thank you
We butchered our pear and a few weeks later the cut branches that we'd thrown in a pile, were budding. I felt like Aaron. Can those be stuck in rooting hormone and dirt to make a new tree? 😱
You would want to scrape off the outer bark layer first
I Like How you No what Tree to Tie side ways
I am absolutely loving this series! I purchased Ann Ralph’s book recently but I haven’t gotten a chance to read it yet. The garden is keeping us so busy right now. We purchased 8 trees at a big box store last fall - 2 peaches, 2 plums, 2 apples and 2 pears. I also have 2 dwarf mulberries and 2 Phoenix Tears gojis. We finally got everything but the gojis in the ground about two weeks ago. Most of the trees were taller than the ones in the video. I was really wondering when the best time to prune them would be. Would it be ok to go ahead and prune them now, since they’ve only been in the ground a few weeks? Or should I wait until they are a little more established? Thank you so much for you help!
I would prune back during dormancy.
😂😂😂😂 I love your shirt!! but yeah I live in an urban situation so I have to keep all my new fruit trees small thanks this was helpful
Summer pruning is good the first few years to establish the tree structure & & then mid-winter thaw (about Chinese New Year's -- Washington's Birthday on the West Coast) pruning for better fruit when the tree is about 5+ years old... I also wait for the natural early summer fruit drop & then space final fruits for better growing.
The best way to get small trees is to have desired fruit varieties grafted onto dwarf or semi-dwarf root stock!! That cuts a regular 25-40 ft tree down to about 8-12 ft max!!
It has its place, though I like the vigor of standards.
Awesome video.
Thank you
Thanks for the info. You have anew subscriber from Scotland. I have a number of apple and plum trees that are a number of years old, as well as some very old trees, I'll use your techniques to try to restructure and shape them. Fingers crossed...
Welcome.
Can you do a video like this for nut tree please? Hazelnut, almond and pecan are what I just started.
Please, what is the best way to learn which method of pruning is best on which trees and which season is best to prune specific trees? I live in Central/SWFL, Zone 10a. Does Ann Ralph’s book cover this?
Thank you so much! Not only do I get a lot of great info from you but I really like your music as well! Keep growing!
She is more attuned to temperate trees - I'm not sure about the tropicals you would have there, but I've seen good results on mango, tamarind and starfruit.
cut above an outward facing bud, not inward facing.