Did you know that a tree's "maximum height" isn't set in stone? YOU can control the height of trees with these tips for growing fruit trees in a small backyard space. Resources: Grocery Row Gardening: amzn.to/34kTM98 Grow a Little Fruit Tree: amzn.to/3My3ma7 Pruning and Training: amzn.to/3hOu4gy Subscribe to the newsletter - I try to send out about one a week with gardening inspiration and news: thesurvivalgardener.us3.list-manage.com/subscribe/post?u=d1c57e318ab24156698c41249&id=1f74a21dc8 Thank you all for watching!
Great intro to this subject. The best thing you have ever done for me (both through books and video) is to make me a brave gorilla gardener. My favorite David the Good sayings: Just throw it on the ground. When in doubt, chop it off. It's just seeds, they're cheap. I don't like it, you're outta here. What is it? I don't know, compost it. Is it dead? Bury it. Is it weak? Cull it. I don't coddle wimpy plants. Eat what's in season, you won't die. Child labor is a good thing. Thank God for the harvest, even if it looks weird. 🤣
I just remembered -- I've seen trees that were deliberately bent long ago by Indians for various purposes (some were trail markers, others may have been bent to make handles or parts for various tools they used). That could be a fun project. Like, bend a tree to make the rockers for a rocking chair. My great-grandfather built a rocking chair that way -- with naturally-bent wood -- for my great-grandmother, and all the babies in the family got rocked in that chair at least once, down to my oldest daughter (I had to sneak a sit-down with her at the museum where it's now part of a local history exhibit). Great-grandad found a section of wood with the bend he wanted, and split it to get identical rockers. Not fruit, but something that could be interesting to play with.
Several years ago, a beam broke at Buckingham Palace. At the time the palace was built, a tree was planted and trained to be the replacement for that exact bent beam. Once upon a time, tree bending was a common and valuable art that created beams much stronger than can be made with straight grained wood.
@@looksirdroids9134 I'm not sure where you got the idea that "Indians" is a derogatory term - maybe from TV? I have a half-Indian sister-in-law, and a full Indian foster-cousin, and I assure you, they don't consider it derogatory at all. That's a left-wing woke idea, trying to create division and strife.
I watched a documentary that said in China they would bend branches to make chariot parts that were stronger and lighter than if they were made from two straight pieces of wood.
Somewhat related; I came across how the Russians began growing citrus between 1920 and 1940. They grew their citrus in trenches 2-6ft deep and of course the entire tree would have to fit into that because once winter hit they would have to cover the trenches with wood to protect the trees from cold and snow. Keep the trees small and create a nice micro-climate for them to thrive.
I use to do what I call live tree art. I made a chair in one tree by bending branches, another one I made a big circle by bending branches. It made me feel real good after doing it. This is what you reminded me of when watching this.
Thank you, I needed this! We bought a property with an overgrown orchard that's got all manner of funk going on in it. Did some maniacal pruning last week before the buds open. I've been so scared of making mistakes, but between you and Ann Ralph my inner psychopathic arborist has been awakened. Thank you!
I wish more people in the gardening community would think this way. Truly grateful for all your wonderful knowledge. Backyard orchard culture. Keep trees small.
Brilliant information. I was listening to every word. Yes, trees do want to grow for us. It's not a coincidence that they breathe what we exhale, and we breathe what they exhale. Bravo 👏 Thank you, Sir. 😊
Fantastic humor on the topic. Same expression I make when friends and family say I can't have so many fruit trees in my yard lol. I can do whatever I want. I own the tree 🥰
Luna moth... BEAUTIFUL. I got lucky enough to have one visit me here in a zone 4 north of Ottawa, Canada. about 3 years ago. For the tree training technique, the native Americans would use a similar method to make trail trees as markers for travelling Thanks for sharing
I don't know if they are still doing anything with it, but at one time the Alaska Ag Extension Experiment stations were trying out various fruit trees and found that they could bend them to grow horizontally very low, which made it easier to protect them in the winter. I think they may have gotten the idea from some work being done in Siberia. It would work not only for winter protection, but also to make it easier to protect trees from pests, and from high winds.
I just ordered 5 Dwarf Everbearing Mulberry trees from Florida and 4 Celeste Fig. The Mulberry trees are tiny but arrived in February with leaves. I put them under a 12w panel light on a tabletop garden with a failed pump timer in a strawberry planter in fresh potting soil until planting time. I planted a Brown Turkey Fig before the nightmare drought and 100+ heatwave in Louisiana last year. I have 4 cuttings from it to plant too and I`m trying 2 Pineapple Guava. On line of 8b/9a but we get single digit temps every year now sadly. By next winter I`ll have coverings and warming lights to keep my fig trees from freezing. I saved my fig tree this year by covering it in leaves and pine straw and a plastic barrel wrapped in a thermal blanket. We had such a cold spring last year that nothing normal grew...then we had decent weather for a few weeks before the heatwave.
I followed you advice on pruning a peach tree way down last year. I am so amazed at the massive amount of blossoms it produced this year. Love you videos!
2:19 I had to pause. 🤣😂🤣 I was laughing so hard my side hurt, my eyes were full of tears, and I might have wet myself. This is every single day in the garden. First the para cord not working, then Fetching and finding all the little things one needs, back and forth… too much. 😂🤣😂 You are a master at the art of subtle humor.
I bought Grow a Little Fruit tree and it really gave me a great eduation on how to keep your trees small and full of fruit. Now I try to spread the word. Exciting stuff!
You are awesome. You remind me of my now-passed gardening friend who I could talk about gardening for hours. Others would not understand this passion. You are like that. Unlike you, I love ornamentals. My passion is in design and how the plant material and hardscape create a picture that is ever-changing. I'm glad I found you. Your passion is a food-source.
Good timing with this video David. I have several volunteer peach trees I need to transplant. Knowing I can keep them small enables us to choose other places in the yard other than the middle where other fruit producing trees and bushes are. Thanks for the information!
Been watching and loving your vids for a while now and finally bought your Grocery Row Gardening book just now :D Love your work bro, greetings from Aotearoa, New Zealand.
I love your grocery row gardening book! I love how short and to the point it was, plenty of info to explain it but I could finish the book and get out gardening in a few days with a baby on my lap
I NEEDED this video. I have tufts of plum trees cropping up every where in my yard. Which already has a grove of 3 huge clusters. I didn't want to but I was about to rip up all of them that were outside the "box" that I want them to grow in. You don't know how many trees you just saved! 15 in the conservative side. You also saved me from some regret because they are all between 3 and 5 years old. Now I'm looking forward to trimming them and keeping them along side my veggies. Thank you!
The art of bonsai would be an amazing starting place to learn what a tree need an how and what one is actually able to do with any tree. I’m not telling anyone to go and make bonsais but rather study the art of it to use this incredible knowledge in the garden. To keeps bonsai alive for many generations it means you have grasped the full science, not only but to pass on the information to your children as to continue growing the tree that grate grate grate grandfather started !
This is great video. We're on the Canadian prairies, and here we basically need to use full sized rootstocks for fruit trees like apples just to have the vigor and cold hardiness, also the growing season in short. Yes I do have an old apple tree that's 35 feet tall, but only because it wasn't pruned - sure they can get that large. All of the standard "full sized" trees I've planted in years since have been really easy to keep small with pruning and training, selecting some main scaffolds and keeping them low and spreading, and the trees can be close together. My orchard was planted in a forest, the natural vegetation before I started was all aspen (tall but they don't produce much shade), choke cherry, saskatoon, and small oaks. Instead of clear cutting the trees to make room, I just made paths around them, and used small existing clearings to plant my fruit trees. Instead of removing small oaks I decided to make them into Niwaki, or garden trees. Yes the oaks can be 50' tall, but I'm going to keep them at 5-6' with pruning, and give them cool artistic shapes. Same with pines, I've added them around the orchard and train the with cool bends, Niwaki is like an in ground larger bansai. The few tall aspens that might eventually block some light will be reduced like "syntropic agroforestry" style, I can keep the tree and just remove branches, pollard it down to size and add their biomass to the ground - ok we don't have bamboo or bananas here to chop and drop but it's the same idea. Most of the light in the summer is at a high angle, so dense spacing is fine and the trees can still get full sun even though they've been integrated into a forest garden. I enjoy all of your ideas about keeping the trees the shape and size you want. One day I can imagine step over espaliers around my garden paths. There's another style of training we're trying here in zone 3 called Russian artic stanza, where you train an apple tree along the ground so it can be covered up by snow for the winter and zone push.
My husband was watching this over my shoulder and asked who’s that? I said “That’s David the Good and he prunes like a psychopath” And next winter I will be too! I’m sick of trying to harvest fruit from a 20 foot tall mulberry and the figs are insane. I have paw paws, persimmons and plums from Stark Bros on the way. They need some some apical dominance action for sure hehe!
Extremely inspiring! Thanks for sharing some knowledge from your vast experience! Love this kind of video. Thanks for the book recommendations as well. Super funny outtakes🤣🤣
This naturally happened to my peach tree accidentally grown from compost. I decided to pot it up, then plant in permanently once it was a year old. The thing set heavy fruit 3rd year. It bent all the branches down and the thing is absolutely beautiful.
I discovered your channel fairly recently, and I have loved everything I've seen thus far, but my heart leapt when I heard you say "I don't care about ornamentals". And your wife -"People don't know what it's like to play scrabble with you." Duuude. 😁 Party on Garth!!! Seriously, 1000% better than any of the dreck on television, genuinely entertaining while we learn excellent practical, useful things, and get to go online and do what Phillipians 4:8 tells us. Just love this so much!
I have been experimenting with oak trees in keeping them short. I always loved the horizontal branches reaching further and further out from the trunk but despise the height an oak tree can grow. This has brought a new perspective in my quest to perfect my ideal oak tree.
Perfect timing, for me growing in Zone 5/6 anyway!!! :) Can't thank you enough, I am super excited for this year's growing season! From trying the grocery row farming to pruning my new fruit trees, I am just so motivated and have renewed confidence, thank you so much!!!
We watched your video when you cut the trees in half. It's funny how life works, that lead down a path that led to use doing the same thing with our 1st two apple trees a couple of weeks ago. And bonus was it horrified our family !! We also found Dave Wilson through you. Ah Dave Wilson, we love those Jean shorts and videos in horrendous winds. An awesome channel!! Thanks, David. You're a Goodman, 1/2 crazy but good ;) Morale of the story : trees are spaceships, got it Cheers from Victoria, Canada
Oh man this gives me some wild ideas.. I love walking around in heavily wooded areas around my house and ever since I was a little kid I've seen trees while walking or hunting that grow in the wildest ways and I try to imagine how that wild growth came to be maybe it was trampled as a sapling, or rubbing caused an odd bend, or perhaps it would bend to get the best light.. After watching this video it totally confirmed for me that essentially any tree can be manipulated like the bonsai trees that became so popular when Karate Kid came out. So many ideas!
13:55 I’ve inherited a small permaculture Forrest with my property, I swear I’ve learned more about it from your videos than I ever expected! We have lots of trees cut head high, I suspected it was for fire wood, because we have a fireplace, but we also have a lot that are simple tall dead stumps maybe 12 ft high , I figured they were left for birds or owls 🦉 to forge or nest in?
wow. I have mulberry trees that are in my back yard courtesy of birds and I think I might try cutting one down and growing the branches along the fence. I would be able to harvest them easier! Best idea ever!
I'm getting brave . We have two pear trees that only have two or three pears WAY up in the top that I can't reach. I'm going to cut them . They are no good the way they are so if they die I will not have lost anything. Thank you for the information. Love your book and videos.
Those two books have been on my to-buy list for over a year now. Didn't expect to see them here. Maybe I should just get them over the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!
Incredibly helpful!! You’re a fantastic mind reader too because we were just talking about getting another apple tree and a peach tree! But I’m order for our new apple tree to pollinate our old ones- it needs to go in the front yard, and that’s really limited space! So this is great! Just found your channel a few weeks ago, subbed almost immediately. You give good advice, you make me laugh and your baby is precious as the Summer days are long!
Excellent video sir! Thanks for the info. Can't get enough of this kind of experimenting. Also, great use of old garden hose, love it! Outtakes are hilarious.
Another great show! I have planted 6 apple trees and 3 pear trees. When I got them i cut them back, and again in the fall to strengthen the root system. I now this year have found I have a ceder rust problem, since ceder trees are near by. I did plant rust resistant trees.They are semi dwarf size. I have come to the same thought of making them dwarf and will do that since I will have to spray them for this problem.And do not want to be spraying up into the clouds. And it will make it easier to harvest the fruit some day. I like the way you think out of the box.
Okay, You caught me at the point you were having difficulty cutting the rope. Lordy I do the same think trying anything to keep from stopping and getting correct tool! Lol too funny and thanks for the growing tips.
I have a small 3 year old apple tree I started from seed and a buck deer rubbed it and killed it, or so I thought. I cut it off to almost the ground and it has grown back from this short trunk with several branches. So I’m going to train the branches to grow sideways after watching this video :) I like to experiment too in my garden. Excited to try this.
We just got our first successful propagation of our mulberries. Also experimenting with airlayering at loquat at my wife work in the back there's a giant tree with delicious fruits
I have been trying to grow plums in my area for nearly 3 years. They kept dying and someone told me to plant them in mounds of dirt bc my water table is so high that the roots were rotting. Plus I have alot of red clay. So far they are doing good. I planted 3 like this last summer.
One more thing, which doesn't have a lot to do with pruning fruit trees, but recently you mentioned in passing that you wanted to experiment with keeping nut trees small. I don't know about other nuts (hazelnuts should work), but was just reminded that chestnuts are commonly used in coppiced woodlands in Europe. So pruning them to keep them small would probably work quite well. (I was looking up coppicing information because I have a patch of young black locusts that I'm going to coppice for tool handles, garden stakes, and a little bit of firewood.)
Nice video. Coppicing works because you use the already extensively developed roots. The tree has tremendous power when coming out of dormancy, completely focussed to new growth. It can absorb tremendous amount of nutrients.
Excellent information, David. I have five bare root fruit trees that I plan to keep small within a 10x10 mini-orchard. The trees are currently in pots until I see if they are all still alive. I plan to get them into the ground next fall and will be lopping them off as soon as I plant them. The idea makes me nervous, I'll admit, but I'm hopeful that they will all survive my tender loving care.
Well you just gave me some ideas on how to prune my Peach trees from seed of course one of them is only waist high but it's has tons of branches thanks for the video David
Amazing video! I appreciate it a LOT this information. I was having this issue of "letting go" fruit trees that I would love, because of those "giant" 50 ft or so trees... THANK YOU! Absolutely Inspiring!
A little besides the point, but we had to prune our Sour Orange tree, that thing was getting so tall, thick & bushy, plus it was nearby the neighbors, so we wouldn't want it growing over their fence. Pulled out some large stalks from the inside and made a cool walking stick with it. The wood was even soft enough to cut designs into it, made for a fun little project. Now our Sour Orange is more manageable, and even has a few flower buds on it. Hopefully gonna fruit a lot better this year.
Just watched this video again. I've got some fruit trees coming. I carefully researched and ordered those that are best suited for my area. I'm going to start a grocery row. (and I bought your book on that) What do think about elderberry as part of the, like, understory plants? and also an upright-growing raspberry? goji berry?.
I have an everbearing Key Lime tree I requested when someone asked me “what do you want for your (60th) birthday?” and it was attacked by aphids which I got rid of after battling the ants farming them then the aphids only to have leaf miners full on attack it ! It bloomed twice so heavy it looked like all the branches were snow covered and set almost no fruit. It did very well at keeping blooms and every size of fruit up to mature size simultaneously until these pests found it. It is in a big pot. I give it a little citrus fertilizer (6-4-6) once a month as nursery instructed.
I use old trampoline springs and chains to weigh down branches for horizontal growth. Springs and coathangers are my mainstays for tree growth training. I don't have a tree in my mini yard that I haven't controlled the growth of.
I've been waiting for this particular kind of video. I have over 30 fruit trees and plan to put them in the ground this fall. I want to keep them short and taunt. So thanks. I'm just afraid of cutting off the wrong branches when they start touching.
When I first planted an apricot tree, a horse munched it down to 4 feet. Well, it did well the following years and I cut it back by a third each year. It'll grow back, yes.
David, starting up on 10 ac on the line of zones 8b and 9a in Dixie. Closer to Suwannee River than the Gulf. Please recommend videos and info specific to our micro climate.
Thank you for the informative video. I was wondering if you can you use full sized fruit trees for this, or should you have dwarfing root stock for this? Or are both possible?
@@davidthegood thank you! Do you know if this method can be used in cold climates too? I have been trying to find examples but not much luck so far. Not sure if it is just culture/not many people trying or if the growing season is too short for this method.
Did you know that a tree's "maximum height" isn't set in stone? YOU can control the height of trees with these tips for growing fruit trees in a small backyard space.
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Im tying all my leggy key lime shoots in circular loops
Does this include all nut bearing trees?
Thanks David! Great video, very informative. :)
yes sir... trees and plants growth is also not determined by age but by nutrition
Fantastic video, I work for the co-op food forest Abundance and this super useful info
Great intro to this subject. The best thing you have ever done for me (both through books and video) is to make me a brave gorilla gardener. My favorite David the Good sayings:
Just throw it on the ground.
When in doubt, chop it off.
It's just seeds, they're cheap.
I don't like it, you're outta here.
What is it? I don't know, compost it.
Is it dead? Bury it.
Is it weak? Cull it.
I don't coddle wimpy plants.
Eat what's in season, you won't die.
Child labor is a good thing.
Thank God for the harvest, even if it looks weird.
🤣
Fear not and prune on!
Yes! 🥳🥰
Isn’t “compost your enemies “ one of David sayings too? 😆
I keep hearing David The Good's voice in my head saying, "Who cares?!?" It has unfrozen my analysis paralysis so many times!
I just remembered -- I've seen trees that were deliberately bent long ago by Indians for various purposes (some were trail markers, others may have been bent to make handles or parts for various tools they used). That could be a fun project. Like, bend a tree to make the rockers for a rocking chair. My great-grandfather built a rocking chair that way -- with naturally-bent wood -- for my great-grandmother, and all the babies in the family got rocked in that chair at least once, down to my oldest daughter (I had to sneak a sit-down with her at the museum where it's now part of a local history exhibit). Great-grandad found a section of wood with the bend he wanted, and split it to get identical rockers. Not fruit, but something that could be interesting to play with.
Several years ago, a beam broke at Buckingham Palace. At the time the palace was built, a tree was planted and trained to be the replacement for that exact bent beam. Once upon a time, tree bending was a common and valuable art that created beams much stronger than can be made with straight grained wood.
Yeah there are a few buisnesses which make grown furniture. I would love to give it a try when I have some land to try it out on ..
Indians used to bend them to point in the direction of a water source.
@@looksirdroids9134 I'm not sure where you got the idea that "Indians" is a derogatory term - maybe from TV? I have a half-Indian sister-in-law, and a full Indian foster-cousin, and I assure you, they don't consider it derogatory at all. That's a left-wing woke idea, trying to create division and strife.
I watched a documentary that said in China they would bend branches to make chariot parts that were stronger and lighter than if they were made from two straight pieces of wood.
Your concern for saving our trauma is a real comfort stay great
Somewhat related; I came across how the Russians began growing citrus between 1920 and 1940. They grew their citrus in trenches 2-6ft deep and of course the entire tree would have to fit into that because once winter hit they would have to cover the trenches with wood to protect the trees from cold and snow. Keep the trees small and create a nice micro-climate for them to thrive.
Very interesting gardening information.
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I use to do what I call live tree art. I made a chair in one tree by bending branches, another one I made a big circle by bending branches. It made me feel real good after doing it. This is what you reminded me of when watching this.
That is wonderful.
The best camera person EVER. Scrabble with David ,I think not.
Thank you, I needed this! We bought a property with an overgrown orchard that's got all manner of funk going on in it. Did some maniacal pruning last week before the buds open. I've been so scared of making mistakes, but between you and Ann Ralph my inner psychopathic arborist has been awakened. Thank you!
I wish more people in the gardening community would think this way.
Truly grateful for all your wonderful knowledge.
Backyard orchard culture. Keep trees small.
Brilliant information. I was listening to every word. Yes, trees do want to grow for us. It's not a coincidence that they breathe what we exhale, and we breathe what they exhale.
Bravo 👏 Thank you, Sir. 😊
Yes, this video is inspiring! I have a young orchard and want to keep the trees down to an easy to harvest height. Going for it!!
Fantastic humor on the topic. Same expression I make when friends and family say I can't have so many fruit trees in my yard lol. I can do whatever I want. I own the tree 🥰
Luna moth... BEAUTIFUL. I got lucky enough to have one visit me here in a zone 4 north of Ottawa, Canada. about 3 years ago.
For the tree training technique, the native Americans would use a similar method to make trail trees as markers for travelling
Thanks for sharing
I don't know if they are still doing anything with it, but at one time the Alaska Ag Extension Experiment stations were trying out various fruit trees and found that they could bend them to grow horizontally very low, which made it easier to protect them in the winter. I think they may have gotten the idea from some work being done in Siberia. It would work not only for winter protection, but also to make it easier to protect trees from pests, and from high winds.
I just ordered 5 Dwarf Everbearing Mulberry trees from Florida and 4 Celeste Fig. The Mulberry trees are tiny but arrived in February with leaves. I put them under a 12w panel light on a tabletop garden with a failed pump timer in a strawberry planter in fresh potting soil until planting time. I planted a Brown Turkey Fig before the nightmare drought and 100+ heatwave in Louisiana last year. I have 4 cuttings from it to plant too and I`m trying 2 Pineapple Guava. On line of 8b/9a but we get single digit temps every year now sadly. By next winter I`ll have coverings and warming lights to keep my fig trees from freezing. I saved my fig tree this year by covering it in leaves and pine straw and a plastic barrel wrapped in a thermal blanket. We had such a cold spring last year that nothing normal grew...then we had decent weather for a few weeks before the heatwave.
Thank you for making this. After watching the video I went outside and spent the rest of the day pruning my fruit trees.
I followed you advice on pruning a peach tree way down last year. I am so amazed at the massive amount of blossoms it produced this year. Love you videos!
Thank you, Sarah. Good work.
2:19 I had to pause. 🤣😂🤣 I was laughing so hard my side hurt, my eyes were full of tears, and I might have wet myself. This is every single day in the garden. First the para cord not working, then Fetching and finding all the little things one needs, back and forth… too much. 😂🤣😂 You are a master at the art of subtle humor.
This video is amazing! just what I needed to hear! Thanks!
I bought Grow a Little Fruit tree and it really gave me a great eduation on how to keep your trees small and full of fruit. Now I try to spread the word. Exciting stuff!
You are awesome.
You remind me of my now-passed gardening friend who I could talk about gardening for hours. Others would not understand this passion. You are like that.
Unlike you, I love ornamentals. My passion is in design and how the plant material and hardscape create a picture that is ever-changing.
I'm glad I found you. Your passion is a food-source.
Thanks for the invaluable information and the bloopers!
Good timing with this video David. I have several volunteer peach trees I need to transplant. Knowing I can keep them small enables us to choose other places in the yard other than the middle where other fruit producing trees and bushes are. Thanks for the information!
I have gotten a lot of volunteer peach trees the last few years. I have been interested in how they do long term.
Been watching and loving your vids for a while now and finally bought your Grocery Row Gardening book just now :D Love your work bro, greetings from Aotearoa, New Zealand.
I love your grocery row gardening book! I love how short and to the point it was, plenty of info to explain it but I could finish the book and get out gardening in a few days with a baby on my lap
I literally was wondering about our tamarind trees and you inspired me on how to prune. Crazy WPB FL 💯👍🇺🇸
I missed most of it live but the end was halarious! Watching the replay now.
I NEEDED this video. I have tufts of plum trees cropping up every where in my yard. Which already has a grove of 3 huge clusters. I didn't want to but I was about to rip up all of them that were outside the "box" that I want them to grow in. You don't know how many trees you just saved! 15 in the conservative side. You also saved me from some regret because they are all between 3 and 5 years old. Now I'm looking forward to trimming them and keeping them along side my veggies. Thank you!
Awesome!!!
Yes! I did find this truly inspiring and just a whole lot of fun to listen to. great job !
The art of bonsai would be an amazing starting place to learn what a tree need an how and what one is actually able to do with any tree. I’m not telling anyone to go and make bonsais but rather study the art of it to use this incredible knowledge in the garden.
To keeps bonsai alive for many generations it means you have grasped the full science, not only but to pass on the information to your children as to continue growing the tree that grate grate grate grandfather started !
I agree.
This is great video. We're on the Canadian prairies, and here we basically need to use full sized rootstocks for fruit trees like apples just to have the vigor and cold hardiness, also the growing season in short. Yes I do have an old apple tree that's 35 feet tall, but only because it wasn't pruned - sure they can get that large. All of the standard "full sized" trees I've planted in years since have been really easy to keep small with pruning and training, selecting some main scaffolds and keeping them low and spreading, and the trees can be close together. My orchard was planted in a forest, the natural vegetation before I started was all aspen (tall but they don't produce much shade), choke cherry, saskatoon, and small oaks. Instead of clear cutting the trees to make room, I just made paths around them, and used small existing clearings to plant my fruit trees. Instead of removing small oaks I decided to make them into Niwaki, or garden trees. Yes the oaks can be 50' tall, but I'm going to keep them at 5-6' with pruning, and give them cool artistic shapes. Same with pines, I've added them around the orchard and train the with cool bends, Niwaki is like an in ground larger bansai. The few tall aspens that might eventually block some light will be reduced like "syntropic agroforestry" style, I can keep the tree and just remove branches, pollard it down to size and add their biomass to the ground - ok we don't have bamboo or bananas here to chop and drop but it's the same idea. Most of the light in the summer is at a high angle, so dense spacing is fine and the trees can still get full sun even though they've been integrated into a forest garden. I enjoy all of your ideas about keeping the trees the shape and size you want. One day I can imagine step over espaliers around my garden paths. There's another style of training we're trying here in zone 3 called Russian artic stanza, where you train an apple tree along the ground so it can be covered up by snow for the winter and zone push.
Excellent. You know what you're doing!
My husband was watching this over my shoulder and asked who’s that? I said “That’s David the Good and he prunes like a psychopath” And next winter I will be too! I’m sick of trying to harvest fruit from a 20 foot tall mulberry and the figs are insane. I have paw paws, persimmons and plums from Stark Bros on the way. They need some some apical dominance action for sure hehe!
Hey! It's been a year since you made this post.. did you do the crazy prune? And if so, how'd it go? :)
Thanks for giving us courage to trim to maintain heights.
Love it!
So much interesting that you can actually grow fruit trees and such in very very limited spaces or even crowding them to grow a bunch of them at once.
I started an Espalier project last year! Loving it!
Extremely inspiring! Thanks for sharing some knowledge from your vast experience! Love this kind of video. Thanks for the book recommendations as well. Super funny outtakes🤣🤣
This naturally happened to my peach tree accidentally grown from compost. I decided to pot it up, then plant in permanently once it was a year old. The thing set heavy fruit 3rd year. It bent all the branches down and the thing is absolutely beautiful.
Thank you,Thank you,Thank you!!! Lots and lots of lovely knowledge and inspiration!!! Great!!🌱👍😃
That ending was perfection! ❤️
Wish I had learned this a year ago with my small space.. but I have learned it now so here we go! Thank you!
Best part is the end. Love this guy 😂
Another great video and a few more books, lol. I've grafted successfully, so maybe pruning is the next parallel.
David you're so weirdly funny, lol🎯
So good! I am definitely using some of these ideas!
And I'm so glad I watched to the end 😂
I discovered your channel fairly recently, and I have loved everything I've seen thus far, but my heart leapt when I heard you say "I don't care about ornamentals". And your wife -"People don't know what it's like to play scrabble with you." Duuude. 😁
Party on Garth!!!
Seriously, 1000% better than any of the dreck on television, genuinely entertaining while we learn excellent practical, useful things, and get to go online and do what Phillipians 4:8 tells us. Just love this so much!
Thank you - that is really kind of you. Welcome.
You are such an inspiration to try new things..very encouraging! Blessings to you! 🌻🤗
Hahaha love the blooper reel.
I have been experimenting with oak trees in keeping them short. I always loved the horizontal branches reaching further and further out from the trunk but despise the height an oak tree can grow. This has brought a new perspective in my quest to perfect my ideal oak tree.
Perfect timing, for me growing in Zone 5/6 anyway!!! :) Can't thank you enough, I am super excited for this year's growing season! From trying the grocery row farming to pruning my new fruit trees, I am just so motivated and have renewed confidence, thank you so much!!!
I am very glad to hear it.
We watched your video when you cut the trees in half. It's funny how life works, that lead down a path that led to use doing the same thing with our 1st two apple trees a couple of weeks ago. And bonus was it horrified our family !! We also found Dave Wilson through you. Ah Dave Wilson, we love those Jean shorts and videos in horrendous winds. An awesome channel!! Thanks, David. You're a Goodman, 1/2 crazy but good ;)
Morale of the story : trees are spaceships, got it
Cheers from Victoria, Canada
Oh man this gives me some wild ideas.. I love walking around in heavily wooded areas around my house and ever since I was a little kid I've seen trees while walking or hunting that grow in the wildest ways and I try to imagine how that wild growth came to be maybe it was trampled as a sapling, or rubbing caused an odd bend, or perhaps it would bend to get the best light.. After watching this video it totally confirmed for me that essentially any tree can be manipulated like the bonsai trees that became so popular when Karate Kid came out. So many ideas!
13:55 I’ve inherited a small permaculture Forrest with my property, I swear I’ve learned more about it from your videos than I ever expected! We have lots of trees cut head high, I suspected it was for fire wood, because we have a fireplace, but we also have a lot that are simple tall dead stumps maybe 12 ft high , I figured they were left for birds or owls 🦉 to forge or nest in?
Yes
Try growing mushrooms around the base of your dead trees
wow. I have mulberry trees that are in my back yard courtesy of birds and I think I might try cutting one down and growing the branches along the fence. I would be able to harvest them easier! Best idea ever!
I'm getting brave . We have two pear trees that only have two or three pears WAY up in the top that I can't reach. I'm going to cut them . They are no good the way they are so if they die I will not have lost anything. Thank you for the information. Love your book and videos.
Those two books have been on my to-buy list for over a year now. Didn't expect to see them here. Maybe I should just get them over the weekend. Thanks for the recommendation!
Ah David! You and Stefan S. (in neighbouring Quebeckistan) are two of my favourite educators! Now, if we could only get Stefan to SING! ha ha ha
Incredibly helpful!! You’re a fantastic mind reader too because we were just talking about getting another apple tree and a peach tree!
But I’m order for our new apple tree to pollinate our old ones- it needs to go in the front yard, and that’s really limited space!
So this is great! Just found your channel a few weeks ago, subbed almost immediately. You give good advice, you make me laugh and your baby is precious as the Summer days are long!
Welcome - thank you.
Thank you so much for this awesome content! Options are endless, so exciting 🥳
This is large bonsai in the ground basically. Awesome!
Excellent video sir! Thanks for the info. Can't get enough of this kind of experimenting. Also, great use of old garden hose, love it! Outtakes are hilarious.
And now we know not to play scrabble with you. Thanks for the head's up, Rachel.
"Stop laughing! This is real!"😂😂😂
Thanks for sharing your tree tips 🤩 I've been training my trees to stay small for a couple years now and appreciate your insights!
Another great show! I have planted 6 apple trees and 3 pear trees. When I got them i cut them back, and again in the fall to strengthen the root system. I now this year have found I have a ceder rust problem, since ceder trees are near by. I did plant rust resistant trees.They are semi dwarf size. I have come to the same thought of making them dwarf and will do that since I will have to spray them for this problem.And do not want to be spraying up into the clouds. And it will make it easier to harvest the fruit some day. I like the way you think out of the box.
Okay, You caught me at the point you were having difficulty cutting the rope. Lordy I do the same think trying anything to keep from stopping and getting correct tool! Lol too funny and thanks for the growing tips.
Our plum tree we had for 8 yrs before it gave us fruit. We actually thought it was a cherry until we got fruit last year..we were so excited!😄
I have a small 3 year old apple tree I started from seed and a buck deer rubbed it and killed it, or so I thought. I cut it off to almost the ground and it has grown back from this short trunk with several branches. So I’m going to train the branches to grow sideways after watching this video :) I like to experiment too in my garden. Excited to try this.
"...Where's the loop?..." We love you Dave. ;-)
Good thing I was searching tonight. I didn't get notification for this one.
Thanks for this awesome video man ! Very useful!
You camera person does such a great job. I can tell they know how to use the rule of thirds when framing the shot. Great video y'all!
Thank you. She is good.
We just got our first successful propagation of our mulberries. Also experimenting with airlayering at loquat at my wife work in the back there's a giant tree with delicious fruits
Excellent video, well done.
I have been trying to grow plums in my area for nearly 3 years. They kept dying and someone told me to plant them in mounds of dirt bc my water table is so high that the roots were rotting. Plus I have alot of red clay. So far they are doing good. I planted 3 like this last summer.
Good luck.
Awesome little boat!!great advice@!
Love the bloopers at the end, guys! Thanks again.
Wow! This is exactly what I need. Thanks so very much 🥰
One more thing, which doesn't have a lot to do with pruning fruit trees, but recently you mentioned in passing that you wanted to experiment with keeping nut trees small. I don't know about other nuts (hazelnuts should work), but was just reminded that chestnuts are commonly used in coppiced woodlands in Europe. So pruning them to keep them small would probably work quite well. (I was looking up coppicing information because I have a patch of young black locusts that I'm going to coppice for tool handles, garden stakes, and a little bit of firewood.)
At Mount Vernon...Washington's home....all the fruit trees are espalared on a low garden stone wall. Truely beautiful!
I espaliered a nectarine tree, never looked back, great idea. Better fruit over slightly smaller yield. :-)
"If we de-apicalize its dominance..."
I love it.
Thank you. You made me laugh, too.
Nice video. Coppicing works because you use the already extensively developed roots. The tree has tremendous power when coming out of dormancy, completely focussed to new growth. It can absorb tremendous amount of nutrients.
Excellent information, David. I have five bare root fruit trees that I plan to keep small within a 10x10 mini-orchard. The trees are currently in pots until I see if they are all still alive. I plan to get them into the ground next fall and will be lopping them off as soon as I plant them. The idea makes me nervous, I'll admit, but I'm hopeful that they will all survive my tender loving care.
You can do it.
Love this guy!
Wow. I learned something useful today. Thank you. New sub here.
Welcome - and thank you.
Well you just gave me some ideas on how to prune my Peach trees from seed of course one of them is only waist high but it's has tons of branches thanks for the video David
Amazing video! I appreciate it a LOT this information. I was having this issue of "letting go" fruit trees that I would love, because of those "giant" 50 ft or so trees... THANK YOU! Absolutely Inspiring!
A little besides the point, but we had to prune our Sour Orange tree, that thing was getting so tall, thick & bushy, plus it was nearby the neighbors, so we wouldn't want it growing over their fence. Pulled out some large stalks from the inside and made a cool walking stick with it. The wood was even soft enough to cut designs into it, made for a fun little project. Now our Sour Orange is more manageable, and even has a few flower buds on it. Hopefully gonna fruit a lot better this year.
That is really cool.
I am inspired by both your enthusiasm and the prospect of growing larger trees and of training them to stay small! Great video!
It was very eye-opening for me.
Just watched this video again. I've got some fruit trees coming. I carefully researched and ordered those that are best suited for my area. I'm going to start a grocery row. (and I bought your book on that) What do think about elderberry as part of the, like, understory plants? and also an upright-growing raspberry? goji berry?.
I have an everbearing Key Lime tree I requested when someone asked me “what do you want for your (60th) birthday?” and it was attacked by aphids which I got rid of after battling the ants farming them then the aphids only to have leaf miners full on attack it ! It bloomed twice so heavy it looked like all the branches were snow covered and set almost no fruit. It did very well at keeping blooms and every size of fruit up to mature size simultaneously until these pests found it. It is in a big pot. I give it a little citrus fertilizer (6-4-6) once a month as nursery instructed.
Thank you for yet another great video.
Thank you.
I use old trampoline springs and chains to weigh down branches for horizontal growth. Springs and coathangers are my mainstays for tree growth training. I don't have a tree in my mini yard that I haven't controlled the growth of.
I would love to see photos - would you email me some? david@floridafoodforests.com
For eons man was just a figure in the landscape. With gardening man has become a shaper of the landscape
I've been waiting for this particular kind of video. I have over 30 fruit trees and plan to put them in the ground this fall. I want to keep them short and taunt. So thanks. I'm just afraid of cutting off the wrong branches when they start touching.
When I first planted an apricot tree, a horse munched it down to 4 feet. Well, it did well the following years and I cut it back by a third each year. It'll grow back, yes.
David, starting up on 10 ac on the line of zones 8b and 9a in Dixie. Closer to Suwannee River than the Gulf. Please recommend videos and info specific to our micro climate.
Thanks, David.
Exactly what I was looking for
Thank you for the informative video. I was wondering if you can you use full sized fruit trees for this, or should you have dwarfing root stock for this? Or are both possible?
You can use this method on standard root stock - doesn't have to be dwarfing.
@@davidthegood thank you! Do you know if this method can be used in cold climates too? I have been trying to find examples but not much luck so far. Not sure if it is just culture/not many people trying or if the growing season is too short for this method.